KRATOS TELLS ATREUS TO OPEN HIS HEART DURING WAR OF ASGARD GOD OF WAR RAGNAROK

[@williamjackson8782]

One of the devs said THIS was the moment Kratos changed his fate from being killed by Thor to being worshipped by the people of the realms. By telling Atreus to open his heart, he went from being the destroyer to the rebuilder.

[@Slashchad]

More likely from him killing Thor

[@Bruh-us9vr]

I mean kratos fucked him up how is that possible 😭

[@vegapreferred9344]

@@Slashchad how would have thor killed kratos though

[@ayyyndrew-u]

I always thought it would be Atreus who kills Kratos because he would turn on him due to his lack of remorse, and Kratos could never bring himself to kill his son and so accepts his fate. Him choosing empathy means Atreus never has to make that choice

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

Which was stupid because when Kratos said it the first time he had just battled Baldur and Atraeus said he understood killing animals for food and draugur that were already dead but what about people? In response, Kratos said "close your heart to it, on our journey we will be attacked by all manner of creature. Close your heart to their desperation, close your heart to their suffering, do not allow yourself to feel for them. They will not feel for you." this was proven later when Atraeus had just killed a cannibal reaver who wanted to kill and eat him with no empathy or remorse for his child victim. Kratos saw the horror and guilt on Atraeus's face and he said, "close your heart to it" as a reminder of what he said. All this was beautiful and a growing-up moment as Atraeus is being prepared for manhood and facing the world by a rational, protective, and competent father. All good fathers know that it's their job to keep their kids grounded and realistic so they can make it through life. I loved these moments until the writers of Ragnorok strawmanned the first game with that scene. Atraues said, "I know, I know close your heart to it." Meanwhile, I was yelling at the screen saying " No you idiot those are random civilians, not people attacking you like in the first game. Kratos go remind your retarded son what you said." Then Kratos comes, opens his mouth, and says "no I was wrong open your heart to them." At that moment I lost it I was like "these writers just character-assassinated Kratos and ruined the best moment from the first game and butchered the context of the quote with their low IQ potato-brained, revisionist historian, take!!!"

[@Darriks]

The whole game Kratos wrestles with the fact that his son is becoming his own person and listening to him less. In this moment he realizes that’s what he’s always wanted for him .

[@xerohh]

I dont think Atreus is listening to him less though

[@IamKingSleezy]

It was more or less Kratos realizing he wanted better for his son, and to not make the same mistakes that he did by being so cruel to the world and it's inhabitants.

[@MLaak86]

As well as that he has changed into someone who cannot allow such mindless slaughter to stand, only the true target of justice can face their wrath not anyone else.

[@gimo6881]

​@@IamKingSleezyThe Worst kind of fate that one can suffer, being turned into a Steven Universe... 💀

[@turb0r4bb1t5]

Over a year later, this is still one of the best comments here.

[@gentlemankaiju1997]

This isn't just about Atreus, this is closing the book on the journey of Kratos. He isn't just the god of war anymore, he's a father, a friend, and a beacon of hope for the people who survived. I love that you can barely recognize God of war 1 kratos from ragnorok kratos.

[@Thatsciencedude324]

Amazing character development

[@CornholioPuppetMaster]

I thought about the moment when Kratos dropped that guy into the river Styx, so he could climb out of hell after Ares killed him. He said I still have work to do 😂 or when you had to push the guy in the cage into the fire, that was pretty brutal. He came a long way from the god of war to be the god of peace

[@jawaun1875]

@@Thatsciencedude324 It’s amazing because we’ve seen his development over decades and it’s grown little by little

[@LordEyepatch]

This is actually the beginning of his journey as a God.

[@NeroSparda99]

He is the god of war, but one of peace now that’s the point

[@nikostyleonyomamacoochie8513]

2:21 God hearing Kratos's voice break after pouring his heart out to his son just hits. He's finally telling Atreus to embrace the person he is

[@billyjoe8185]

Christopher Judge is so good man

[@kingdomstorm4205]

I cry whenever I hear his voice break

[@jawaun1875]

Exactly and we saw him shed tears at his mural

[@KeravnosPrime]

Based kengan poster, Godtaku that you?

[@MLaak86]

As well as embracing who he is as well, because beneath all the pain and all the rage is a good man and a god who can be better.

[@kasaibouF29]

Younger Kratos: "Let them suffer. The death of Zeus is all that matters." Older Kratos: "You feel their pain because that is who you are. And you must never sacrifice that. Never. Not for anyone. I was wrong Atreus. Open your heart. Open your heart to their suffering. That is your mother's wish, and mine as well."

[@martinjugolin2087]

He was wrong in saying to open your heart, thats foolish

[@rodrigoa.oviedogarcia8139]

​@@martinjugolin2087 Not as foolish as your comment.

[@martinjugolin2087]

@@rodrigoa.oviedogarcia8139 lies, Kratos was wrong. In the end game how Odin behaves is a perfect example of closing your heart, even though Atreus opened it to Odin he still chose to go against Atreus, Odin didnt change and said he would never stop. In that case, you should close your heart to Odin cause he won't feel for you, basic math. Lead with the head and not with the heart, cause the heart feels but the head chooses

[@martinjugolin2087]

@@rodrigoa.oviedogarcia8139 people usually hate the truth, but you'll agree with me in the end, but it might be too late

[@rodrigoa.oviedogarcia8139]

@@martinjugolin2087 No I just can't stand edgelords who believe that once they "understand the truth" suddenly they are invincible to the hazzards of life. One day we will meet our inevitable end and I rather go on my way.

[@hamizanyunos1502]

This is such a cool moment in the previous game he tells Atreus to close his heart from other's suffering but now Kratos realizes his mistake that Atreus must be BETTER and more empathetic than him so Atreus will never become a war-hungry and bloodthirsty God as Kratos was.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

No it's dumb because when Kratos said it the first time he had just battled Baldur and Atraeus said he understood killing animals for food and draugur that were already dead but what about people? In response, Kratos said "close your heart to it, on our journey we will be attacked by all manner of creature. Close your heart to their desperation, close your heart to their suffering, do not allow yourself to feel for them. They will not feel for you." this was proven later when Atraeus had just killed a cannibal reaver who wanted to kill and eat him with no empathy or remorse for his child victim. Kratos saw the horror and guilt on Atraeus's face and he said, "close your heart to it" as a reminder of what he said. All this was beautiful and a growing-up moment as Atraeus is being prepared for manhood and facing the world by a rational, protective, and competent father. All good fathers know that it's their job to keep their kids grounded and realistic so they can make it through life. I loved these moments until the writers of Ragnorok strawmanned the first game with that scene. Atraues said, "I know, I know close your heart to it." Meanwhile, I was yelling at the screen saying " No you idiot those are random civilians, not people attacking you like in the first game. Kratos go remind your retarded son what you said." Then Kratos comes, opens his mouth, and says "no I was wrong open your heart to them." At that moment I lost it I was like "these writers just character-assassinated Kratos and ruined the best moment from the first game and butchered the context of the quote with their low IQ potato-brained, revisionist historian, take!!!"

[@outdoorscholar6016]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 Kratos had his heart closed for a long time, in fact he only opened his heart in this game to those that were close to him. He didn’t want Atreus to follow that path

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@outdoorscholar6016 which they did not set up at all.

[@davyunwashington3613]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 actually they did after the end they killed Baldur and he told Loki he killed his father and then Loki this how gods are like killing each other son killing fathers and he said no me must do better

[@biscuits7128]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 I'm pretty sure that Kratos is saying he is wrong because he unintentionally instilled this mindset into Atreus. In the 2018 game, they never go out of their way to help anyone, it was mostly favors done for some sort of incentive, never out of pure empathy. Kratos admitting he was wrong in this scene is more so reflective on the entirety of his parenting rather than just that quote specifically. He's admitting that he was wrong for not taking into account empathy when dealing with Atreus. At least that's what I get out of the scene, though I can understand how just taking this scene at face value can seem like a homicide of the quote from the 2018 game.

[@Enigmata23]

1:30 the look Kratos gives Atreus here, that's the look of fear. He's afraid that if he doesn't say something, his son is going to become who he always feared, a heartless soldier. I think that's what motivated him to change his mind, change his nature, and admit that all these years he was wrong about what it takes to win a war.

[@zyxelztrife2408]

*Atreus of Sparta would be proud.*

[@bigfistdante3483]

Fr though

[@dangtuandung2423]

omg I have forgotten about that character entirely. The Atreus morality will be carried on.

[@Noctazar]

He's probably still smiling from the afterlife

[@pedroconde1038]

Everyone who knew and cared for Kratos in Greece (namely, Kratos's mother, his brother, his previous wife and daughter and, perhaps, his father, Zeus, after being freed from the evil of fear), would be proud of.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

No he would say Kratos lost his mind and Edge because when Kratos said it the first time he had just battled Baldur and Atraeus said he understood killing animals for food and draugur that were already dead but what about people? In response, Kratos said "close your heart to it, on our journey we will be attacked by all manner of creature. Close your heart to their desperation, close your heart to their suffering, do not allow yourself to feel for them. They will not feel for you." this was proven later when Atraeus had just killed a cannibal reaver who wanted to kill and eat him with no empathy or remorse for his child victim. Kratos saw the horror and guilt on Atraeus's face and he said, "close your heart to it" as a reminder of what he said. All this was beautiful and a growing-up moment as Atraeus is being prepared for manhood and facing the world by a rational, protective, and competent father. All good fathers know that it's their job to keep their kids grounded and realistic so they can make it through life. I loved these moments until the writers of Ragnorok strawmanned the first game with that scene. Atraues said, "I know, I know close your heart to it." Meanwhile, I was yelling at the screen saying " No you idiot those are random civilians, not people attacking you like in the first game. Kratos go remind your retarded son what you said." Then Kratos comes, opens his mouth, and says "no I was wrong open your heart to them." At that moment I lost it I was like "these writers just character-assassinated Kratos and ruined the best moment from the first game and butchered the context of the quote with their low IQ potato-brained, revisionist historian, take!!!"

[@TrojanGamer10]

1:27 Kratos just remembering the moment he sold his soul to Ares just to win

[@MR.LMR1996]

And it was in this moment that Kratos defied the odds and fully reclaimed that soul he lost long ago.

[@s_u_r_v_i_v_o_r]

Before Athena: "as we speak, the war for olympus rages on, and mankind suffers" Kratos : "them suffer. The death of Zeus... Is All that matters" Now Kratos: "Open your heart to their suffering"

[@Zigzagin_Zag]

Our man being better😌

[@thanman6584]

I'm proud of my boy kratos. My man finally grew as a person, and BECAME BETTER.

[@martinjugolin2087]

You open your heart and then it gets broken, when it happens don't act surprised

[@gimo6881]

​@@thanman6584The Worst kind of fate that one can suffer, being turned into a Steven Universe... 💀

[@jaimerodriguez8612]

This is the culmination of Kratos character arc over the Norse saga, he went to war once again to basically destroy another pantheon, resigning himself to once again being a monster of vengeance. Seeing how much the violence pained his son, he finally starts walking the path of justice, even his journal entries regarding his allies shows a genuine fondness for those around him. I wonder if Kratos' voice breaking is just Christopher Judge's tremendous acting chops of if he was really fighting to hold it together.

[@sebastiancontreras1559]

I definitely believe it’s him fighting to hold it together and truly embracing the role and those lines. I heard before, and anyone please correct me if i’m wrong, that he views the early parts of his fatherhood as less than ideal or having feelings of regret in the way he fathered his children, and so a lot of moments in this game and the emphasis of being better must definitely affect him heavily.

[@Aerolithh]

@@sebastiancontreras1559 theres even a scene of him crying while va'ing. Back in the last GoW when he gets back the blades of chaos.

[@thanman6584]

@@sebastiancontreras1559 definitely, the recent god of war games are known to relate with fathers. This game's clearly a masterpiece.

[@PizzaMadeMeDoThis]

Oh, just realized something else. He's doing it for justice now rather than vengeance. Tyr was a god justice and was shown in the joutunn paintings with a spear. It was always meant to be kratos :(

[@pumpkinking5397]

This moment holds so much weight. It's Kratos finally letting his past go. Telling his son to open what he himself closed for so long. I believe this is the exact moment when their fate was officially changed.

[@thanman6584]

It's sad because it's closed because of kratos literally saying "close your heart to it", unbeknownst to the fact that atreus is not a warrior, he's a child. And he's naturally good hearted. Atreus even thought that his father hated him for these qualities.

[@MLaak86]

As well as showing that Kratos has truly changed - he cannot allow mindless slaughter to stand even to get to a foe so vile as Odin, without hesitation or second thought he modifies the plan.

[@ramprakashsridhar4911]

I'm sure a lot of us know this but just to point out the brilliant callback, there's a very clear reason why Kratos chose to protect instead of just destroy here. This whole scene gave him bad flashbacks of when he burned a village full of innocents down and accidentally killed his first wife and child. The moment he saw Atreus utter "Close uour heart", he is visibly horrified by what he taught his son so he had to stop to contemplate and decided to backtrack and firmly tell Atreus to open his heart. The moment he changed fate was the moment he chose to avoid the very same mistake, particularly the worst mistake of his life. He used that guilt as a reminder to never do it again, to BE BETTER.

[@MLaak86]

Definitely, though also that this Kratos simply can no longer truly conceive of or accept mindless meaningless slaughter of innocents who've been pushed in his way, he's changed.

[@grim_reefer42083]

Which is going to setup for the big Kratos death in the next one. His job is done

[@scottiecurrie7927]

​@@grim_reefer42083No way, Kratos may be officially over his past but that doesnt mean he needs to die. He'll just be a bastion in the world now, guarding the Norse realm while Artreus travels elsewhere and potentially returns to visit

[@bryanasare1632]

That “close your heart” like from the first game sounds cool but it always rubbed me the wrong way. I love how Kratos allowed his son to change his perception of the world.

[@TheCompleteMental]

Originally, it was meant towards his enemies, those who lacked it. While reasonable, opening his heart is what distinguishes Atreus from Kratos. That compassion is something he admires, and follows.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

No, this scene is dumb because when Kratos said it the first time he had just battled Baldur and Atraeus said he understood killing animals for food and draugur that were already dead but what about people? In response, Kratos said "close your heart to it, on our journey we will be attacked by all manner of creature. Close your heart to their desperation, close your heart to their suffering, do not allow yourself to feel for them. They will not feel for you." this was proven later when Atraeus had just killed a cannibal reaver who wanted to kill and eat him with no empathy or remorse for his child victim. Kratos saw the horror and guilt on Atraeus's face and he said, "close your heart to it" as a reminder of what he said. All this was beautiful and a growing-up moment as Atraeus is being prepared for manhood and facing the world by a rational, protective, and competent father. All good fathers know that it's their job to keep their kids grounded and realistic so they can make it through life. I loved these moments until the writers of Ragnorok strawmanned the first game with that scene. Atraues said, "I know, I know close your heart to it." Meanwhile, I was yelling at the screen saying " No you idiot those are random civilians, not people attacking you like in the first game. Kratos go remind your retarded son what you said." Then Kratos comes, opens his mouth, and says "no I was wrong open your heart to them." At that moment I lost it I was like "these writers just character-assassinated Kratos and ruined the best moment from the first game and butchered the context of the quote with their low IQ potato-brained, revisionist historian, take!!!"

[@TheCompleteMental]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 I dont know why you went completely off the rails in the middle or for what, but it does come out of nowhere. The only thing that would cause Atreus to act like this is Kratos' "sacrifice everything" line, but that's still a jump. Maybe they were trying to use it like the Dark Knight Rises compassion scene, but that's more for sparing your enemy, which Kratos already tried to do at the start of god of war 4 several times. Maybe if we saw it seen used as more of a catch-all solution it wouldve landed better. I love the moment still, I love what it tries to get at, which is how I feel about a lot of scenes in this game.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@TheCompleteMental it still requires a set up they transferred an insertion of the quote that was said in the context of self-defense and transferred it to general empathy which is a strawman and a payoff without a proper set up which is why it's stupid.

[@anonymousanimal5179]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 Kids often misinterpret/take what their parents tell them to extremes. Atreus felt pain at seeing those people die and wanted to stop feeling it, so he focused on the words of his father that fit the situation, even if that wasn’t exactly what he meant. Meanwhile, Kratos’ whole journey has been about being better than he was. Is it really “revisionism” to say that he disagrees with something he said at the beginning of the first game?

[@bJT42]

1:47 and 2:21 If you would have told me this was going to be Kratos, especially after playing GOW 2, where he was at his apex of being absolutely remorseless, I would’ve called you crazy. This scene truly makes Kratos my all time favorite gaming character, due to how relatable he is.

[@scales4442]

He evovled so much, from a god destroyer, and killing machine to a caring father who wants to safe who he loves the most.

[@saintlikegrimm]

Even after 5 games, kratos still gets to shine with character development, goated asf

[@SteinarrBattlefist]

It's a great way of bookending their Teacher/Student relationship by having one of Kratos' final lessons to Atreus being the exact opposite of one of his first. It truly reinforces the idea that teachers learn from their students as much as students learn from their teachers.

[@squashmallow2006]

After all, a teacher can learn a lot from their students. It's definitely because of Atreus and Faye that for the first time in centuries, Kratos has friends. Friends who don't want to just use him for the heck of it, but friends who care about his wellbeing and happiness. Mimir, Freya, the Huldra Bros (for a while), Freyr (bless him), Lunda, even Fenrir and Angrboda. Like Freya, his family was taken away piece by piece, but he found comfort in the family he chose.

[@TheGodOfWarhammer]

2:57 this was actually surreal to hear KRATOS say this. I feel if someone who knew him before were to explain his past, everyone in the norse land would not believe it. kinda like hearing that your sweet, kind grandpa was in Korea and not only has a double digit body count, but that he used to put the heads of his enemies on bayonets

[@martinjugolin2087]

But he is wrong

[@Phantomato2000]

“Wars are won by those who are willing to sacrifice everything” The very words made Kratos who he is today Yet the words cost him his soul, leads him to a lifetime of anguish and tragedy. Telling Atreus to be who he is and not a Machine of wars, is to spare him from making the same mistake Kratos made Sacrificing his soul, his child and loves, the people of Sparta, the whole Greek. Kratos finally accepted who Himself was and Atreus is, while showing him a better path. Truly embraced “Loki will go, but Atreus will stay.” Resulting freeing Loki to finally embrace who he is, and both Atreus the Giant and Atreus the spartan will lives on to spare him hope in Kratos heart.

[@gimo6881]

The Worst kind of fate that one can suffer, being turned into a Steven Universe... 💀

[@SayAnything8]

This is where Kratos realized he was leading Atreus to make the same mistakes he did; to sacrifice his humanity for war and vengeance. This is where Kratos finally understood what it was to be better.

[@ultimatehope549]

I didn’t see Kratos talking to Atreus in this scene. I saw my dad talking to me, as they always reminded me of the relationship I have with my dad and how we have changed and love each other despite being so different. This scene made me cry and is probably one of my favorites in all of gaming

[@thanman6584]

My dad is kind of worse. Lol.

[@interestingcontent4277]

Its happend to me, but with the "be better scene"

[@mrmadphilosopher2043]

Me too. Me too.

[@DepressedFishey123]

I love the horrified look he has hearing atreus repeat his own words

[@travisohaver42090]

Kratos hearing his own words out of his son's mouth, knowing he was wrong. Showing that they need to be better. I love the character development of Kratos through the series.

[@kaz7690]

The journey began when Kratos said "Close your heart to their suffering" and ended when he said "Open your heart to their suffering". Such an amazing callback to quotes that were said really early on in GoW 4

[@peterh4049]

Sad that they don't work together. Close your heart to those trying to kill you, how is that now wrong because innocent people are in danger

[@PantherJaguar]

I love this moment because Kratos realized how he was teaching Atreus not to be like him was completely wrong. Kratos realized the way to ensure Atreus wouldn't make the horrifying mistakes as him is to be compassionate. Kratos wants nothing more than his son to be truly better than him and this moment beautifully shows how Kratos comes to this realization.

[@GolDKill-kd8on]

Christopher Judge just delivering another great scene. Should get an award for how he portrayed kratos

[@pedroconde1038]

It wouldn't be surprising to see Christopher Judge earning a Price of the Game Awards

[@Haurent]

Spoilers: he did

[@pedroconde1038]

@@Haurent he diserve more than one

[@av799]

“With what army?” “Atreus and I are enough.” More than enough.

[@rainer_uncrowned]

“Open your heart” ❤ Fantastic character. Fantastic game.

[@pedroconde1038]

The best of the two games of the norse era, or the best game of God of War franchise?

[@rainer_uncrowned]

@@pedroconde1038 both imo!

[@thanman6584]

@@pedroconde1038 the norse saga is a fucking masterpiece. The original trilogy was also grand, for example gow 1 I replayed recently and that game is freaking good as well. Gow 3 remains one of my favorites too. But the sequels, the norse saga, wraps up kratos' story beautifully. Which is why I love them so much tbh.

[@martinjugolin2087]

Dumb advise from him, closing your heart is the truth

[@codygooding1332]

I feel this is the moment the prophecy changes. This was Kratos going against his nature. Not making the decision he would typically make.

[@TheBigLime111]

100% if he didnt open his heart to thor during their battle. He might have died by his hands just like the prophecy.

[@thedarkknight727]

‘JUSTICE, NOT VENGEANCE’. -The Batman

[@sonichedge80]

Him choking up on that first ‘today’ absolutely amazing

[@squashmallow2006]

I like the added nuance of how much more progressive Kratos is to embrace new mindsets and cultures. In real life, a lot of parents and elders would be very attached to their old ways, and would consider their "Good ol' days" to be the best representation of their culture. It often brings them at odds against their children who want to evolve and change, and to grow beyond the evils of their culture. Here, Kratos brilliantly acknowledges how much he does miss his home, and his first family. But he still does acknowledge that Spartain upbringing was more abusive and damaging than strengthening. He still carries on his Spartan discipline and knows the benefit of having focus and determination. But he also knows that the only things he needs to pass on to the next generation is only the best of what the old days had to offer, minus the worst. Not just for his son, but also for himself. He can teach Atreus to fight, be fast, and to think tactically, but he can still let Atreus be kind, compassionate, and empathetic, and in turn, he himself can be too. He can still be the best of Sparta, but, he can replace the worst of Sparta, with the best of himself. He will always be a God of War, but can still fight for peace.

[@acuteoctogon9303]

0:47 close your heart 1:30 changing fate 2:08 open your heart 3:10 you will be enough

[@cosmic2750]

The Norns were right. Kratos 'of Sparta' *did* die. In the battle of Ragnarök, Kratos of Sparta died. He died the moment Kratos acted opposite to his nature, and told his son to open his heart. And the man that was born anew wasn't the same person as before; he was no longer the Ghost of Sparta, no longer 'Kratos of Sparta'.

[@vegapreferred9344]

Is 1:12 when kratos asked “put in our path to die” did he think of what happened to his ex wife and daughter? When he talks to his son you can hear sadness in his voice . How this moment changed his decision?

[@JoseMora-wc5zz]

This game has made me tear up. Phenomenal story.

[@hyperdeath84]

One of the many things that makes this scene so great is that the turning point at which Kratos realises how to let Atreus be the man he is meant to be is a call back to a small moment of conversation included to pass time during the weakest mechanical element of these games (the climbing). Players are hardwired to expect these little conversations as you traverse between combat encounters to be small character building moments. Using them as the fulcrum upon which an entire character arc will form is impressive writing of a kind that can only be delivered in this medium.

[@thanman6584]

Notice how kratos never calls atreus boy ever again. Really nice detail, and a meaningful change.

[@thatoneguy1166]

Kratos was able to change his fate because he himself changed

[@God-xd1wr]

OPEN YOUR HEART, IT’S GONNA BE ALRIGHT!!

[@lonelywolf5659]

Flying blue gold hedgehog flies pass.

[@LestatandBerial]

The character development Kratos went through in this duology, from where he started is amazing. The gameplay and plot are great, but the character work is what makes this my favorite PlayStation series.

[@yharnamiyhill787]

This scene like many other scenes is a testament of the changing effects a child can have on the parent - this is not something that can be accomplished by people who are without a child to raise.

[@robertjones5765]

Kratos, the God of Being Better.

[@zacburns2724]

This is one of the greatest scenes in gaming

[@miguelopez509]

Fun fact.. God of war started 2005.. god of war 3 2010… look at us. As gamers.. we develop as parents… we are growing and can relate to Kratos

[@Nixus237]

I love the little detail of Kratos looking at Sindri to see what vengeance can make you become. Just his eyes shooting over to him then the head turn into a full turn around to signal everyone

[@THEHOTSORA]

I have been going through what I feel like is a difficult time in my life, but hearing Kratos say what he said made me feel better. I hope it helped any of you too.

[@gavinlamp5426]

Freya: "That's suicide!" Kratos: "511." Freya: "What?" Kratos: "Oh, it's a little hobby of mine. I hear that term so often I decided to keep a mental list of how many times I've heard it."

[@ouch5310]

THUNDER, RAIN, AND LIGHTNING DANGER, WATER RISING CLAMOR, SIRENS WAILING *IT’S SUCH A BAD SIIIIIIGN*

[@CozyOrSomething]

SHADOWS OF DARK CREATURES STEEL CLOUDS FLOATING IN THE AIR PEOPLE RUN FOR SHELTER *WHAT’S GONNA HAPPEN TO US*

[@NatetheNintendofan]

Shadows of dark creatures Steel clouds floatin' in the air People run for shelter What's gonna happen to us?

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

I still remember the horror of watching Kratos annihilate Olympus like a wave of death over it's inhabitants. This is some character development indeed.

[@TheTimbs_]

Sindri closed his heart alright.

[@ladyselin35]

Vangeance was burning in there.

[@ackthualyimsmarterthanyou7844]

One of the best and absolutely most meaningful scenes for sure

[@Gigachadbateman104]

I know everyone talks about how the names werent set properly when making the first game so thats why he called him boy most of the time but gpd damn hearing kratos call him by his name and my son is soo good

[@brucescuts9665]

This was kratos at his strongest

[@Foxhound3857]

The moment when Kratos stops being a destroyer and becomes a savior, when he chooses to *defend* life rather than take it. Kratos has truly become better.

[@essenceofnothingness]

1:58 we will never see GOW 1-3 Kratos again.

[@vortexvenom]

This shit made me cry so hard

[@shuraeditz27]

I am kind because Kratos told me to be 🗣️

[@excel958]

Something that more children need to hear from their fathers

[@pinoyjona]

Reading the comments here is fascinating as I remember people went along the idea of becoming a monster during for survival and war from not just of God of War but other media like in Attack on Titan and now with people getting older and possibly some…recent events in Europe…many mindset changed on compassion and empathy.

[@ninshu412]

I feel like Kratos also opened his heart in this very moment. When he says, "That was your mother's wish...and mine as well". I think he was saying he too has opened his heart to people. We see it with his relationships with all the side characters in Ragnarok. He really felt bad about Brok, he found common ground and potential love in Freya, his relationship with Atreus has become something of beauty.

[@kernay5780]

We will die seeking justice not vengeance.....Talk about full circle ❤️

[@futabayuki]

2:08 THUNDER, RAIN AND LIGHTING

[@CozyOrSomething]

DANGER, WATER RISING

[@TheOrene]

Jesus, and sindri is just listening to them after he murdered a bunch of innocents like a psychopath

[@LauritsR]

What was the thing Kratos fired off at 1:37?

[@NovaSixx]

Oh shit if you look at when sindri hits that anvil and destroys those machines it shares the same color as the sound arrows. It makes you wonder if that one dwarf who built them for Odin intentionally put sound stone inside of them.

[@akbarsha03]

At 1:25, You can see Kratos couldn't bear Atreus trying to close his heart by his facial expression alone.

[@CozyOrSomething]

Meanwhile: *"IT'S GONNA BE ALRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!"*

[@cyndlehick9777]

He reminds me of my own father.

[@jamesrussels2126]

Song is "Letting Go" its about 5:25ish into the actual song. Enjoy.

[@TheHisenBurg411]

Greatest scene in gaming history

[@assassin10134]

Gonna throw this out there. Ragnarok looked afflicted when atreus was having his moment

[@kinopiko01]

From training Atreus to not care for anything to care for others, damn if you don't cry to this like wtf bro

[@Dkspardan]

When Krato Told aretus to open his heart to it, The god of war truly died and the god of peace took his place, and the 8 realms were better for it :)

[@randomguy3080]

Slayer of the Greek Pantheon, the Ghost of Sparta, the breaker of curses and prophecy, the champion of the Jötunnar The God of War

[@hoopsonwheels]

Kratos didn’t want atreus to be like himself he liked that he took after his mother in terms of his personality

[@Just_marii]

That's kratos throughout the whole game, he wants Atreus to be better than he was.

[@danielsosa2240]

Bruh... I almost came to tears here.

[@AngelOvDeath4014]

Life's go on

[@k-jon036]

This is the moment he changed his fate 💪🏾

[@coreyondavis6032]

i feel like this is a message for all the guys who were told to be heartless machines. If you think about it, we constantly hear "real men dont show emotion, real men are warriors" to which that was what kratos was doing to atreus in order to survive in the world. Realizing that innocent people were suffering, kratos realizes that he was wrong about not feeling anything and taught atreus to dont allow people's own insecurities and sense of truth define who he is are as a person. Out of all the games I have played, this game taught me the most. If you think about it, kratos was an emotionless machine who killed for the Gods to the point he even slaughter innocents including his own family. Here in ragnarok, he doesnt want atreus to make the same mistake and do the opposite.

[@jorgetomedeandradealves8565]

IT WILL BE AMAZING A DLC WITH ATREUS AND SINDRI

[@8440k]

Usually we don’t get dlc for GOW but I want a continuation with Atreus and Sindri patching up.. plus WHO blew the horn in 2018? Who was the mysterious person?

[@thiagoalbornoz5062]

@@8440k It was Kratos

[@luukstofberg7571]

@@thiagoalbornoz5062 no when kratos was carrying Atreus to freya’s home in the previous game someone used the horn to call jormungandr but we still don’t know who blew the horn

[@alienelephant4721]

@@luukstofberg7571 GOW2 Kratos: It was me. I survived the impalement from Blade of Olympus as Zeus plunged upon me.

[@estebanvelazquez353]

@@8440k im pretty sure that was just baldur trying to find another way to jotunheim, he probably thought jormie would know

[@nawzadsaber2960]

It took him 1116 year to realize"

[@rubin831]

Just pre-ordered my GOW 5 for PS5

[@pytorman]

Best scene in any GOW game

[@redninja0078]

Kratos realizing that Odin put innocent civilians in a warzone reminded him of Ares, you can even hear it in his voice. “Odin put them in our path to die.” On top of Atreus repeating Kratos’ words, it made him realize what to do, make sure that Atreus never repeated him own mistakes.

[@tyronegrayii3246]

Son listen closely you feel thier pain because that is who you are and you must never sacrifice that never not for anyone

[@BigBoy257]

Whoa- All right! Thunder, rain and lightning Danger, water rising Clamor, sirens wailing It's such a bad sign Shadows of dark creatures Steel clouds floating in the air People run for shelter What's gonna happen to us? All the steps we take, all the moves we make All the pain at stake I see the chaos for everyone Who are we? What can we do? You and I are same in the way that We have our own styles that we won't change Yours is filled with evil and mine's not There is no way I can lose Can't hold on much longer (But I will never let go!) I know it's a one-way track (Tell me now how long this'll last!) I'm not gonna think this way (Nor will I count on others!) Close my eyes and feel it burn (Now I see what I've gotta do!) Open your heart, it's gonna be alright! Ancient cities blazing Shadows keep attacking Little children crying Confusion, hopeless anger I don't know what it can be But you drive me crazy All your cunning tricks make me sick You won't have it your own way Can't hold on much longer (But I will never let go!) I know it's a one-way track (Tell me now how long this'll last!) I'm not gonna think this way (Nor will I count on others!) Close my eyes and feel it burn (Now I see what I've gotta do!) Open your heart, and you will see! All right Yeah If it won't stop There will be no future for us Its heart's tied down by All the hate, gotta set it free! I know it's one-way track (Tell me now how long this'll last!) Close my eyes and feel it burn (Now I see what I've gotta do!) Gotta open your heart, dude! Can't hold on much longer (But I will never let go!) I know it's a one-way track (Tell me now how long this'll last!) I'm not gonna think this way (Nor will I count on others!) Close my eyes and feel it burn (Now I see what I've gotta do!) Open your heart, it's gonna be alright! Yeah! Open your heart! Yeah! Open your heart!

[@Steelers4Life47]

amazing how In the old games you could kill civilians for health and now this

[@tetshua_2127]

yet people on Tiktok keep replaying Kratos' other quote "close your heart to their desperation".

[@peterh4049]

because it's the better quote. This one makes Kratos look like a moron because he can't remember the context of the original.

[@pro100wnick11]

I think its the most important moment in this game. Its the moment the Kratos changed his destiny:) he choosed well. Or it was destined for him to do it, who knows

[@antoniogutierrez1991]

It was destined, norms said Kratos of Sparta would die, this is him being better

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

It's still stupid because when Kratos said it the first time he had just battled Baldur and Atraeus said he understood killing animals for food and draugur that were already dead but what about people? In response, Kratos said "close your heart to it, on our journey we will be attacked by all manner of creature. Close your heart to their desperation, close your heart to their suffering, do not allow yourself to feel for them. They will not feel for you." this was proven later when Atraeus had just killed a cannibal reaver who wanted to kill and eat him with no empathy or remorse for his child victim. Kratos saw the horror and guilt on Atraeus's face and he said, "close your heart to it" as a reminder of what he said. All this was beautiful and a growing-up moment as Atraeus is being prepared for manhood and facing the world by a rational, protective, and competent father. All good fathers know that it's their job to keep their kids grounded and realistic so they can make it through life. I loved these moments until the writers of Ragnorok strawmanned the first game with that scene. Atraues said, "I know, I know close your heart to it." Meanwhile, I was yelling at the screen saying " No you idiot those are random civilians, not people attacking you like in the first game. Kratos go remind your retarded son what you said." Then Kratos comes, opens his mouth, and says "no I was wrong open your heart to them." At that moment I lost it I was like "these writers just character-assassinated Kratos and ruined the best moment from the first game and butchered the context of the quote with their low IQ potato-brained, revisionist historian, take!!!"

[@pro100wnick11]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 hmm I think u look at this from the wrong perspective. Kratos said that to artreus because he wanted him to become heart closed warrior. In the ragnarok he understood artreus should be different, that Faye wanted it and Kratos wants it. Artreus feels for animals, pure people etc. Kratos understood in this scene that everything he thought artreus was good beside this. He doesnt want to teach artreus revenge and cold war. He want them to be better that this. And its different context you know-killing in self defense/kill inncient ppl at the war

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@pro100wnick11 you are writing in a context that doesn't exist that's the problem. The writers wrote the original scene with one context and then pivoted in this game without a setup. Had they done it right after the fight with the reaver in the first game they would have added a Midgardian civilian who needed help and Kratos refused to allow Atraeus to help telling him "close your heart to it" which would have validated your position and expanded the context for the payoff in this game but that never happened which is called bad writing.

[@pro100wnick11]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 Still different contexts its for first, and second- it shows character development not bad writing. Bad writing is ending of AOT hahaha xD yea its obv bad writing last few chapters

[@Ruby_Eve]

If this were greek era kratos, open your heart would have a little bit of a different meaning

[@randomninja4209]

same true warrior mentality as Thors

[@willberg12]

WAR NEVER CHANGES

[@animaxenglish3704]

In GOW 3, when Zeus instigated Kratos to let Pandora die, then Kratos saved her. Similarly when Odin put midgardians there to die, Kratos saved them.

[@DrToxick]

They should've made this scene more detailed. I honestly had no clue what happened at first. Couldn't even tell anyone got hurt

[@CornholioPuppetMaster]

We will be the gods we choose to be

[@joshuahecht6866]

Kratos saving the village is penance for his oath to ares and the village that worshipped Athena he killed that had his wife daughter. Kratos seeing Odin hurting the earthlings like ares did. Saw that the cycle must end.

[@namansingh4684]

"you feel their pain because that is who you are" , "we will die seeking justice, not vengeance" , " today son, we will be better " Oh my god , how do they write these lines! ❤ I feel like actually noting down all the quotes of Kratos on a paper. Love god of war❤ 😊

[@themigescape3196]

Sindry didn’t hold back

[@ghostface4404]

there are extreme cases where you must... as I've learned from playing swtor--Taris, especially.