Concord Was a Dumb Oopsie - Delayed Input

I'm hoping this title doesn't come off as too mean.
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[@andrethyst905]

I really love the use of "oafs" as shorthand for executives who don't know a thing about actual quality games. I might start using that.

[@lysergicserpent7676]

O.A.F.S. in positions of corporate leadership, aka Often a Fail Son

[@cbender128]

"Oafs in charge" needs to go mainstream

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

The whole Peanut Butter Mines thing is one of those “how the hell did he even think of this but also this is genius” analogies

[@rudeboyspodcast]

His deadpan "yeah, there's no fuckin peanut butter in there" made me cackle

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

@@rudeboyspodcast”should we all just shrug and go ‘yeah that’s the peanut butter business’?” I DIED bro

[@WolvesbaneNetwork]

The real ones know that actual episode starts after he says thanks for watching.

[@GetShrekd]

i thought it starts after he says this is, but i seem to be a fake one

[@Alex_Logan22]

Not the dipshits

[@kwaddell]

It saddens me that Fairgames is not an amalgamation of carnival mini-games

[@thebackup2121]

With heists

[@CabbageLad89]

Jim Ryan's first mistake was hiring peanut butter minors. They're too young!

From what we all know, there is an unlikely chance they actually found peanut butter in the peanut butter mines, but they just ate it all.

[@kwaddell]

They should have consulted Peanut Butter Gamer

[@cosmosofinfinity]

Let's not forget that PlayStation higher up who actually got busted trying to call a minor over to his house a few years ago

[@InnerRise]

​@@cosmosofinfinityDr. Disrespect is a pedo

[@DroneCorpse]

But The children yearn for peanut butter

[@_tensketch]

This episode was utterly brutal and I loved it.

[@AnimeBronx]

u love that concord s going away because ur s bigot 🤡

[@AnimeBronx]

u 🤡

[@frumiousgaming]

“I’m never referencing shrek ever again” - Donkey

[@twodotso]

- Prison Mike

[@labrynianrebel]

-Donkey Butt

[@keyboard_g]

@@twodotso - Peanut Butter Minor

[@GetShrekd]

why would videogamedunkey say this?

[@tristankimball834]

This comment makes the bit funnier lol

[@scottsutton140]

Fairgame$ is next.

[@RougeMephilesClone]

This was a banger episode. Also want to shout-out the post-credits scene for making me lose the last shreds of faith in Fairgame$ I didn't even know I had.

[@Solidnypan]

The payoff of that Shrek joke is genius. Also I want to join The Dipshits. That sounds like the first idea worth exploring in Fairgames.

[@EmoryM]

Gotta steal money to pay the electricity bills for the GPUs and 3D printers

[@mv2dap]

I find that "We're the dipshits!" bark funnier than I can explain 😂

[@ExisCrisis]

I feel like without even referencing it explicitly it really leans into the whole vibe of 'Who was buying these Bored Ape NFTs?'. Exactly. Dipshits. This has the same vibes.

[@Nscorpion5248]

TIL that Hyenas and Fairgame$ are not the same thing.

[@dmdearing]

Kyle's feeling a little spicy this week. Glad that he clarified it's from a place of love though. Wouldn't want the oafs to take it the wrong way!

[@ozzyg82]

Top tip: Don’t take a big swig of coffee during the last 5 seconds of this video.

[@sesiom]

Too late, but thx

[@phant0mdummy]

Okay TIM.

[@LeoVader]

god damn you are so good at this.

[@tbeeks15]

well said Leo

[@KIager]

Leo, did you play Concord? Did you put your bad juju curse on this game by touching it? I was having so much fun, damnit! Whyyyyyyyy

[@LeoVader]

@@KIager i did play a little but it already seemed like its fate was sealed. i tried to help it by not expressing any interest publicly.

[@616Entertainment]

I specifically recall you (Kyle) saying that the Angry Video Game Nerd was “not your sh*t. Not at all.” The closing punch here is suuuuuuuuuper AVGN, hahahaha

[@Wakwazu]

News of Sony's investment in multiple GAAS projects came around the same time that NFT hype was booming. I wonder if NFTs were ever part of those games’ design.

[@DanielZeal]

This video was a legitimate tour de force. Much like the first Shrek film.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

0:44 Seeing two Type Moon visual novels in the top 5 in the same year is wild

[@faboo2001]

That peanut butter mining analogy was so ridiculous and yet so on point that it makes me kinda sad

[@DOC_951]

Wild that a AAA console exclusive game was completely deleted from the internet in 2 weeks… can’t even imagine how much money was lost

[@CubanLegend561]

3:10 THIS IS, THE STORY OF A GIRL

[@gatsu718]

Game has no "Charisma" is the best description ive seen for Conchord

[@Lontokka]

My issue is that for me, as someone who has very little knowledge about the game, it lacks identity. I have no idea what the characters are or why the green main character comes off as a low-budget Starlord. I feel like he's the most important person in the game, but I don't really care about getting to know him.

[@kwaddell]

From the reveal it already was played-out mimicry of Guardians of the Galaxy that demonstrated to me the game had nothing unique or enticing to say. The fact that the gameplay was furthermore an extension of that unoriginality really put the nail in the coffin.

[@FortyPerc]

Something wild to me seeing that list of the highest rated games of the year with Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime both so high. It's deserved but wow, not what you expect

[@astreakaito5625]

Oh no, just when I thought I couldn't detest Fairgame any more already, their AI garbage gets exposed..

[@velazkid]

10:27 Kyle tries so hard not to be toxic and fails every time and thats why we love him

[@linkenski]

The weird thing about Concord is if you look at the lead devs and CEO they're the people that shipped Destiny 1 in 2014. They're Ex Bungie, working with Sony for their "Big GAAS launch" after Sony invested 3.6b in Bungie, whose CEO fired the CEO who ended up making this new company and Concord... so the parent studio that's meant to guide them into success are people who literally fought each other back in 2014-2016. That's bad business, and very embarrassing missed connection Jim Ryan proabably didn't pay attention to.

[@Lontokka]

When you put it like that is sounds really bad, like really, really bad.

[@bigbutterbuns360]

Your point about being harsh is an important necessity to actually being kind is crucial. The industry suffers from a lack of embracing hard truths.

[@iannordin5250]

The FairGames presentation feels like something that could have come only from the types of people who got really into NFTs

[@alexsavill]

KZbin algo finally blessed me. This channel is very good content.

[@PokyBallinBabo]

I'm not sure Kyle will be able to do these and work for Keighley at the same time for long, anymore.

[@sh00ner]

Gaming is better without Jim Ryan in it. Now he can go bother someone else as Gordon Ramsey's Wario.

[@TKAandMore]

Fairgame$ really rubs me the wrong way. •The dollar sign in the name to give an on-the-nose signifier that the game is about money •The extremely brazen use of AI/machine learning as a sales pitch, at a time when crypto/NFTs/Web3 are far less potent buzzwords •The masks shown are of monkeys and garish rainbow skulls This feels like it was supposed to be an NFT game, and had to pivot once others in the games industry realized NFTs weren't the cash cow they were hoping for.

[@fraidbea]

5:45 amazing delivery here

[@Chubblestein]

🎶 This is 🎶

[@CubanLegend561]

The Story of a Girl

[@beezusHrist]

Found it

[@darthmarth87]

Honestly though the proximity of Concord and Astro Bot makes for some very funny internet whiplash

[@CrispBaker]

Japanese vs. American development in a nutshell Japanese people make fun cute games and Americans make Concord

[@MiiQ2]

@@CrispBakeryou act as if Japanese studios haven’t made bad games or that American studios don’t make good games

[@CrispBaker]

@@MiiQ2 Yes. Yes I do.

[@todesziege]

@@CrispBaker It's funny how few people seem to have made this connection, considering how obvious of one it is. So many people complain that games are not fun anymore, and try to explain why and what has changed. You know what changed? America overtook Japan as the dominant player in the industry, that's what changed.

[@CrispBaker]

@@todesziege Americans are making good movies and music and books and such, but yeah it's like going to England for the cuisine

[@PurushaDesa]

Can one of the robbers from the crew wearing dead presidents masks declare, “✌🏻 _I am not a Dipshit._ ✌🏻”

[@missyrox394]

My boyfriend and I just discovered your channel and went to go look at your other videos. At first, we were really confused by the similar shirts in each video. But we kept scrolling and realized that every few months or so you changed your background and themed your shirt with it. And you’ve been doing this for THREE YEARS. The commitment is absolutely inspiring. We also really enjoy your content as well lol. Subscribed! You absolute mad man!

[@karamitros20]

You should check his "final bosman" episodes of the old days , pure gold and perfectly themed

[@FrothingFanboy]

He also sometimes does pre-shows for events produced by Geoff 'Best In the Biz' Keighley. One of my favorites was for Summer Game Fest 2020. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ-adodof9CGnK8

[@FrothingFanboy]

This might be the winner for Best Title on a Kyle Bosman Video.

[@marwynthemasterful6369]

I think FairGame$ is gonna be dumb oopsie 2.0

[@ottessirbob]

"That's the peanut butter business baby!" Great show Kyle. I dare say you're growing into more of a journalist in recent months. Going back to sources, combing through interviews and footage, digging up the hard facts, all while wearing one of those cartoonish press hats I have to assume. You've come a long way from Schluffe! Not to say it's a good or bad thing - I'm here for all of it. Even the Shrek shit 🧅😆

[@Waffletigercat]

I find the complete, face-planting failure of Concord to be both hilarious and fascinating.

[@TrepeGB]

Everything about that game was derivative, even the name. It didn’t look bad, it just looked like something you vaguely recollect playing before and got bored of, even though you’ve never played it. . The amount of ‘games as a service’ that are being focussed on is depressing to someone like me who just wants good AAA single player games.

[@alexlinna4434]

To your final point... it is to argue against Marx's theory of labor. The amount of work going into something does not automatically make it good. It seems obvious, but many subscribe to Marxist ideology. Work does not equal value.

[@XanthinZarda]

Value does not equal work. I could sell you a 3$ BOM bluetooth speaker for 10$ because I slapped a brand name you like on it.

[@megamandrn001]

Executives: It's actually incredibly difficult to decide whether or not a game is worth investing in Every fan of videogames, every videogame content creator, every podcast: This will flop, who asked for this Executives: _Incredibly_ difficult

[@CaptainK1LL]

Why isnt Herman Hulst or anyone else in WWS held accountable at all for allowing the team to flounder and then put them through releasing the game and the embarassing recall? Like I get Jim signed the studio but he's been gone since March.

[@KIager]

Peanut butter mine owners are rarely held accountable. It's the poor miners who get ridiculed for not finding any, after getting told to go digging.

[@GrumpyNorthman]

They were already digging for peanut butter though, Jim Ryan just somehow thought it was a good idea.

[@wackydavo]

This is the most logical response to his analogy. It doesn't outright refute it, but game design is not like mining.

[@mx2000]

When I saw the characters - my immediate thought was “these guys look like cosplayers”. Because they look like realistic humans (with makeup), with highly stylized, comical costumes. The stylized armor sets don’t make any sense in a realistic setting, they look exactly like what they are, costumes.

[@joseluki]

Let's put this straight, Concord on PC had a one time max population of around 600 players. Considering that when a game is launch hundreds of keys are given to the media to review the game, wel... one might think that at least half, if not more of those 600 were people that got free keys, then developers and friends also get free keys to give away etc. So that even shrinks more and more the total number of people that bought the game. To put in on poerspective the first trophy on PS5 you could get that was killing one enemy, was achieved by 1200 people by the time concord closed. So around that many people played the game... Absolute failure of a game, totally deserved, adn we all should celebrate it so the industry learn not to release terrible games.

[@brishanf4526]

Oh, FairGame$ is using generative AI and is a generic cashgrab? I hope it fails harder than Concord if that's even possible.

[@graizur]

Why does this have to feel so meta? It was 2006 when rage engine released that we started to hope that we could see a fallout game with better textures and less wonky physics. Cut to five years later rage is its own game. Fallout is still using the game brio engine. Chernobyl is releasing every other year as per tradition. And we're all wondering why the game company that bought both fallout and rage is not using the new Unreal Engine to make a fallout game that's better than the old Gabriel engine. Maybe their development cycles just didn't line up and they both had to release what game they were working on that year but when rage 2 was announced alongside the next fallout game after that a small crack split between what we thought humanity was capable of in terms of corporate cooperation and what we would soon learn to be a sycophantic Hunger Games of infinite layering. Why was windows so hard to update why was apple computers immune to viruses why did backwards compatible consoles not forward compatible their software. But more than anything why was avowed in development while Elder Scrolls was in development while fables was in development. What the heck is a game engine anyway? Surely one of these three open world medieval fantasy games had a superior engine to the other. But by the time we were ready to process all of that destiny 2 was already releasing and we had concluded that there would never be a need for story and video games ever again as long as people were satisfied to compete for shiny outfits to tell each other that they were better at beating each other at whatever it was that they were doing. In the year that I decided that I could not write for video games was the year that video games decided that nobody needs to write for video games. And the working cast has been Pew Pew Pew Pew pewing at each other ever since wearing ever more gaudy examples of how they're better at being really intense.

[@PixelBaller]

The thing is, 99% of gamers saw the first trailers and characters and all thought WTF. How did this make it through 7 years without anyone suggesting they were going down the wrong path? Some serious enquiries need to happen at Sony.

[@RyuRanXII]

Easy answer. The devs were antagonizing their own public. Anyone who pointed the obvious was labelled a bigot.

[@citizen3000]

@@RyuRanXII hahaha it’s very funny to see that Kyle is attracting this sort of crowd

[@PixelBaller]

@@RyuRanXII which proves either Sony weren't overlooking them, being a brand new studio or had their heads up their own arse. Just pitiful management. Buy a studio that as a group has never released a game and give them unlimited funds and 7 years to create what might be the biggest disaster in the history of videogames. Heads need to roll.

[@OctaBech]

It wasn't a Sony project for 7 years. Sony doesn't have much experience with live service games and they did not want to force the existing Playstation studios to stop making the type of games they are beloved for. This is why Sony went to a company which is specialised in creating new studios from the ground up to make live service games - incubation studios. The reason Sony didn't ask questions, is because they honestly do not know why people enjoy these types of games, too many misses during the PS3 era - I honestly do not either. Sony put their trust in the specialists and because Sony could see FireWalk Studios had a passionate staff which were hitting all their milestone goals, they bought the studio - because these are things Sony has always valued in their own studios all the way back from the PS1 days.

[@lloydpatam4189]

​@@PixelBallerSony only bought them last year, so for the most part Firewalk was more or less of an independent studio since it's foundiny. I guess the reason why they bought them is because apparently it's filled with veterans from Bungie, Respawn, Activision, Bioware, Raven Software and etc. And with the fact that Sony loves GaaS and Sony's mentality of focusing on live service games.

[@LordGrimmie]

When the crazy misfits refer to themselves as crazy misfits, you know there's a tone problem.

[@mediocresumo1]

Your videos are always a treat

[@Beeppity]

It’s honestly stunning now crappy the video game industry has become.

[@raphangelo299]

AI and monkeys? Where have I seen this before 😢

[@williammoore1030]

Not hard to feel like Jim Ryan was the first one to see the iceberg and abandon ship. Live services are harder and harder to succeed as everyone willing to play one is already hopelessly addicted to the one they like.

[@VicRattler]

Shawn Layden was the first to see the iceberg, and he was thrown overboard.

[@williammoore1030]

@@VicRattler I liked his philosophy of games much more than Ryan’s too.

[@maynardburger]

Except in such a metaphor, everybody knew the iceberg was there and warned about it, and yet Jim Ryan still confidently steered the ship straight into its path saying they wouldn't hit it, only to be the cowardly Captain who left in another comfy boat a few days before the ship was due to finally hit the iceberg, having done literally nothing to try and help the situation.

[@williammoore1030]

@@maynardburger yep, that’s the optics of the situation.

[@Dok179]

I don't think he jumped ship, but rather was fired for running their business into the ground. Most likely an audit followed right after he announced his retirement, and that's how we got multiple layoffs and TLOU multiplayer cancelled.

[@notenoughcoffee]

It looks like Fairgame$ was just built to be a NFT game, very concerning

[@Wasdniak]

Honestly, the completely unappealing character designs is probably the largest mistake this game made. People absolutely judge books by their cover.

[@XenfareSpades]

Kyle I'm so sorry you're going to quickly realize that people fucking love it when you're harsh and toxic

[@stoi5946]

Gut Fairgames and Marathon right now and avoid future embarassment.

[@KIager]

Marathon is apparently already gutted, but they still want to toss the corpse out there to see how many rabid Destiny collect-o-freaks dive in to feast on its hollowed out MTX carcass. My guess: a lot.

[@dimarelos]

The last joke just ended me. Very nice episode Kyle, keep it up! 😂👌

[@finchharper4647]

Fairgame$ is DOA!

[@GoddyofWar]

"Why DOES Sony have so much confidence in this game?" ...... Derrrrrr Live Serviiiiiiiice

[@LeeFowlerCU]

Concord devs willingly mined peanut butter bro

[@waywardlaser]

The Sony suits are gonna be so fucking confused when Astro Bot outsells Concord like 20 to 1

[@enjoyerofcontent]

I was saying Boo-urns...

[@ME.archpath1]

Masks? Heists? Oh no, Den of Wolves *gulps*

[@Quake199]

Its reminiscence of that Amazon game that released in Beta and got canceled after a month or so.

[@itsalolmor]

Oh my fucking god that Astrobot score

[@VicRattler]

That old clip showed that Bosmans posture has improved as Concords prospects have dimmed. Also, is Shrek an oaf, and can we Power Wash Jim Ryans taint off PlayStation?

[@JazGalaxy]

There was a donut store in my town that was being built for months and months. Then they had a grand opening, baked a bunch of donuts that you could see through the window, and as far as anyone could tell, never open. Then about two weeks later, it was all gone. There was empty. It’s like they cleared it out overnight. Those people went onto Concord.

[@ThunderRazorYT]

Bookends: [no more Shrek reference] - [ends with Shrek reference] Fantastic

[@ThisAlbino]

Some Oafs have henchmen. Don't forget Hermen Hulst.

[@MisterTambourineMan]

Had no idea that Fairgame$ was doing the AI art shit. Yeah they're so fucking cooked.

[@SIXminWHISTLE]

Fairgames is from Jade Raymond, famously cursed since leaving Ubisoft. It was doomed from the start.

[@netgodzilla1]

Where do Sony confidence come from?? Blackrock fresh loan

[@kendawooda]

Proud member of The Dipshits!

[@robardian3697]

Kyle giving Dennis vibes today with his unbound rage.

[@avideogameodyssey3204]

He’s untethered and his rage knows no bounds!

[@AquamentusLives]

Did anyone get the Platinum in Concord?

[@ahmad_kb]

according to psnprofiles, yes more than 50

[@Calladim]

I played with one guy who did. We won about 90% of our matches. It was a lot of fun.

[@mraltoid19]

Jim Ryan is now a Gordan Ramsey body double.

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

It feels like jim ryan saw a live serivce game that was almost done, and while he and sony were having meetings pressing how important getting a live service game was and how they need to chase it with their 12 projects. And he was like this is an easy win. This one is pretty much ready to go. We only need to babysit it for another year or so to get it over the finish line and we have a live service game. And i feel like that is exactly what happened

[@Dok179]

Jim Ryan saw it all the way back in 2021 when Sony partnered with ProbablyMonsters to publish Concord. There's no way they had anything then but a rough pre-alpha and a vision. He was just a hack that got fooled by Harold Ryan saying "AAA" a hundred times.

[@maynardburger]

Nah, even though they didn't officially buy the studio til 2023, they were already financially supporting the game a fair bit before. Was probably meant to just be a Sony-published game, but then decided if they really wanted to get the most out of the game and the team, they'd want to bring them onboard officially for full 1st party support.

[@TotemoGaijin]

I mean, isn't that why Sony bought Bungie though?

[@fotografick]

Its crazy to me that Japan Studios wasn't making enough profit, so Sony invests in Concord instead.

[@mariomcp]

Billion dollar multinational corporations probably need you to be harsh on them for them to understand. But then again, they genuinely don't seem to learn. Wasn't it WB that had Hogwarts Legacy and Suicide Squad in a 1 year period and decided to bet on more Suicide Squads and less Hogwarts Legacies? Pure lunacy.

[@alanamarko]

to be fair, i would like less of both in that specific instance.

[@Ayoul]

I don't think that's true. They scaled Suicide Squad 's post launch way back and are currently trying to accelerate as much as possible the next Hogwarts Legacy.

[@FebreGundam]

It's always OK to be harsh on a videogame, obviously

[@michaelomara]

the Oaf saga begins

[@nyx2903]

Concord was the most expensive "It's just a prank, bro"-moment the gaming industry ever put out in the world.

[@dannyb6380]

The peanut butter miners bit is a Kyle all-timer, got me cackling at 10 AM

[@keyboard_g]

This is the slide whistle season.

[@GoToBedSheeva]

“Deviants” are kinda the system OW2 promised us. Or a perk system.

[@KIager]

Freudian slip? They were called "Variants." It was a great system. Don't know why they chose to focus on Teo's lame mags n' nades when almost every single Variant they cycled through was deeper and would've better explained the depth they were trying to convey. A lot of mistakes surrounding Concord, but the gameplay itself was fantastic, which just makes the shutdown hurt even more.

[@GoToBedSheeva]

@@KIager oh yeah my mistake haha. Had Monster Hunter on my mind when I made the post.

[@gamingfordaysraw]

Yo, this guy was brutally honest in this one. I might have to subscribe.

[@Lusk1993]

Kyle has layers, much like an onion. Or an Ogre.

[@ChickenTuesday]

There was a recent report from someone who worked on the game that said there was a culture of toxic positivity at Firewalk, and that a lot of bad ideas were met with praise instead of being shot down. You're right, sometimes being harsh is being kind.

[@Ejohns1004]

Sony DID NOT pull Cyberpunk 2077 off of their storefront because the game was buggy. They pulled it because CD Projekt went over their head and offered refunds for people who bought it on PSN. That pissed Sony off. That's why it was pulled.

[@charoleawood]

Oafs.

[@DIOBrando-ij2bp]

Concord needed people seeing it and being harsh on it years ago.

[@XanthinZarda]

So Sony has a 2/3 miss ratio, currently? Astrobot which everyone was anticipating, (they thought was a side project) while Concord and Fairgames were basically management pet projects that went horribly out of scope? Fairgames target audience sounds like the type of people who thought that they could beat the stock market by investing in AMC or Bed Bath & Beyond. I don't think Financial Involuntary Celibates have the kind of money that a more traditional whale would.

[@HasanAslan]

So 3 in a row for sony incoming

[@voldrik1364]

Sony didn't pull Cyberpunk for being too buggy, they pulled it because CDPR told people Sony would give refunds if they weren't happy with the game and Sony doesn't do refunds.