Lake of Fire Tormented Tested or Refined?

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tentmaker777

tentmaker777

13 жыл бұрын

The traditional Church and many Bible translations have taught most of mankind will be tormented forever in the Lake of Fire also called Hell by most theologians. Is this true? NO! Learn the truth about basanos, the Greek word behind our English torment.

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@ZRWF
@ZRWF 5 жыл бұрын
Satan wants us to be afraid of God! Our strength lies in our love and out of fear comes weakness. Perfect love will cast out all fear!
@ashleyobrien5791
@ashleyobrien5791 3 жыл бұрын
Satan is fallen carnal man ; Jesus was manifest to destroy the works of the devil. He came to save us from sin/ ourselves. Satan as a creature is a lie of man/come out of her my people.
@piperpompompurin
@piperpompompurin 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyobrien5791 agree amen!!
@jesusisgodalmightyamen492
@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын
Shalom Z3RO, my brother. Peace be to you. Thank you for your response. (4 years ago) We understand you mean well. As our other sister Ashley mentioned, Seitan as a personification simply doesn't exist. We are the evil ones, yet our egocentric consciousness (that is formed out of an attitude of fear) likes to blame-shift. It (our egocentric state of being) doesn't want to take the responsibility that we ourselves are the ones that fail God's law, to treat another as how we would like to be treated. The core of the problem is that It comes from a mind that believes in free will. Which we don't have. Al though there are various impediments to exercise one's choices, free will does not imply freedom of action. God can and will influence our choices and therefore our actions and nullifies free will. The word seitan or satan (not the name !) means adversary or accuser, or better explained as; an adversarial thought according to Hebrew literature. We are adversarial towards God. Towards His will to treat another as how we would like to be treated. It comes from Adam. When God gave Adam a limited ability to create manifestations from his imaginations. Even these perverted scriptures done by the lying scribes, teaches us that out of mankind's hearts come evil (unloving) (fearful) thoughts. So if little kids can have fear with monsters under the bed so can "grown ups" have imaginations based on fear. By having fearful imaginations of a literal boogey-man (personification) called the devil or evil spirits. Hopefully this helps. May our heavenly Father Jesus bless you and all those you hold dear. It be so.
@Jordan-hz1wr
@Jordan-hz1wr 3 жыл бұрын
Every knee will bow and every tongue confess, is not a threat. It’s a promise! Gary, you are missed my friend.
@womandela7225
@womandela7225 10 ай бұрын
I've always felt so sorry for people who believe that God would treat his children like that. I didn't even care if everybody in the whole world was saying it was true. It just felt off to me, how can I have more mercy than the Creator?
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 10 жыл бұрын
The Bible speaks of the restoration of all things. Acts 3:21
@johnprice1824
@johnprice1824 5 жыл бұрын
So, with all this miss translation, did God not preserve His word to us? How about the Word being God in John 1:1 and nothing that was made that was made except thru Him? Interesting things you're speaking about but now concerned about the integrity of the Bible. Can you speak to that, please?
@teagan75
@teagan75 4 жыл бұрын
John Price the Word is Jesus. He told us to call no man our teacher because he is our teacher. We are suppose to have a relationship with him. We are to ask God for wisdom. We are to be taught by the Spirit not man. God did preserve his Word in his Son. The Bible is a useful tool that points us to God and Jesus. Christians have been brainwashed to believe they cannot interpret the Bible without scholars and pastors/priests. The prophet Jeremiah spoke how the Hebrew scribes handled the law falsely. There is ample historical evidence that people have altered both the OT and NT. Search for yourself but ask the Father for wisdom and to lead you to the truth. He will answer that prayer.
@royedwards51
@royedwards51 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnprice1824 mistranslation not miss translation.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
As we know in math, the a negative plus a negative equals a positive. The death of death equals life. The lake of fire is the death of death.
@husq48
@husq48 3 жыл бұрын
This has tormented me all of my adult life, so much at times being unable to sleep or eat for weeks! Is it any wonder that I am not completely insane!
@lorettacatania
@lorettacatania 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the same boat... so grateful to be free from that
@slayingaifusion79
@slayingaifusion79 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in that boat right now worrying this vaccine is mark or leading to and that my family is damned to lake of fire. I haven't ate right or slept hardly in weeks.
@piperpompompurin
@piperpompompurin 2 жыл бұрын
@@slayingaifusion79 it is not the mark of the beast. It is a vaccine to save lives. Do not believe a vaccine is forcing you to worship a fake being !
@slayingaifusion79
@slayingaifusion79 2 жыл бұрын
@@piperpompompurin please go read revelation 18:23 Babylon is destroyed by pharmakia, the nations were deceived just like eve was. Pharmakia is the word sorcery to put faith in medicine that destroys the body and soul, instead of the true God. It's definitely the mark. It goes past the blood barrier into the brain. Right in the ingredients that says messenger code Lucifer was also a messenger that's part organic part synthetic. God seals the people in the forehead, within not outside. Now that goes with the parable about the wise virgins that had oil in their lamp. The unwise foolish didn't. They took the mark and it put out their lamp.
@flowergarden1426
@flowergarden1426 2 жыл бұрын
@@slayingaifusion79 You are right I'm leaning towards all those facts that it is the Mark. What I dont think is right at all is the condemning of the elderly and Children and anyone who was decieved to believe they are now doomed in the lake of fire for all eternity. Our Father is not a monster, he said every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Yeshua is lord. We all have made mistakes and there are consequences to those mistakes but the Father is not going to punish us forever.
@BoBo-vd4df
@BoBo-vd4df 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this teaching. The church has a lot to answer for.♥️
@shanestrickland5006
@shanestrickland5006 5 жыл бұрын
Yep they got a crap tone to answer for. They have made God look like either psychopath are a person with split personality. Split personality is not to be confused with schizophrenia which is a split from reality. A psychopath is a person with no sympathy empathy guilt are remore. Who is very damn deceptive.
@lexiago1944
@lexiago1944 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so blessed to come across your channel, for years I have been thinking of the same thing because it really contradicts with God's holiness. Thank you for sharing this to us, it makes so much sense now given the fact that in the old testament people used to offer dead and best animals based on their level of income and "transfer" sin there and burn the said animal. Maybe in the same sense in the lake of fire we are burned out of our sins.
@deeveevideos
@deeveevideos 2 жыл бұрын
Sulfur is also used in the refining process during ancient times. It removes impurities.
@inreallife21
@inreallife21 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much brother Gary for putting this information out there! I really appreciate all you do. God bless
@jamesmccluskey7551
@jamesmccluskey7551 6 жыл бұрын
Gary, I wanted to thank you for the phone call we had the other day. James from Glendale, Arizona.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 6 жыл бұрын
It was nice talking with you.
@jamespaganini9360
@jamespaganini9360 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Eternal Hell is an evil pagan lie. Not Biblical!
@davidford15
@davidford15 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think God-- who is love-- created humans, and allows certain humans to be tortured for an infinite length of time?
@zachariah7114
@zachariah7114 5 жыл бұрын
@Douglas Butler how can someone who gets around 10-20,000 views be "misleading billions"
@shanestrickland5006
@shanestrickland5006 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@yeahwheey1
@yeahwheey1 5 жыл бұрын
@Douglas Butler Read The Torah, which is the shadowing of what is going to happen with those outside the Kingdom of God(outside the camp), the sinners, lepers e.t.c Read Specially Book of Leviticus and sell the truth not. Many christians have lack of knowledge and throwned the Torah out (5 Mosaic Books)(which means instruction and teaching). The Torah is the foundation and you have throwned the it away. Even Jesus Christ said "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?" John 5:46‭-‬47 KJV Many christians shows out of their heart (acts and info) they don't believe in Moses writings, or even turn to search, find and understand Lord Jesus Christus. The Bible says we have to speak the orcales of God. How can we do it by The Scriptures and words He has provide to us to read, keep in mind, speak and act. I am not saying to you to follow the whole Law, but be instructed what God is trying to say and what His Son means. But our heart are so wicked and people follow this wicked deceivable heart and Satans poison, that sinners gonna be tormented forever and ever and be alive while being torment in eternity. This is not God of Isreal, this is Molech traditions and thinking. All the way from Babylon. Read please Leviticus(even if you want the Book of Numbers) with some knowledge of God and please answer what God is trying to show or reveal about the Lake of Fire and The Kingdom of God. Beware of False Prophets and Teachers and even Trinitarian translations or support and twist the greek words to something else, what it actually not mean, they are legit everywhere! May God Our Father, and Lord Jesus Christus Truth, Peace and Grace be with you!❤️💕💓
@mrs.bartlett6047
@mrs.bartlett6047 5 жыл бұрын
Sure is and it has been taught by many men. Ppl need to look up Plato. Where did all this red devil pitch pork soul burning garbage come from. If this were true then Satan is a recruiter for God to throw ppl in eternal fire , since he supposedly leads ppl there.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
The scriptures plainly speak of the restoration of all things, the salvation of all mankind. The early church taught it, the original languages of the bible teach it. It magnifies God and diminishes man's free will. God is sovereign. He is victorious. His love holiness and justness harmonize in universal salvation. It gives hope to the hopeless and brings down the pride of man who boasts in his own strength and righteousness. Stop boasting and start being in a victorious savior.
@thedudeabides2010
@thedudeabides2010 11 жыл бұрын
Hey brother I had to stop the video and leave you a message. I love your heart and I hear where you're coming from. You are like a modern day John the Baptist. I am thankful that Yahweh has given you a voice and the heart to speak the truth! Don't give up we hear you ! Blessings!
@carolmueller3191
@carolmueller3191 3 жыл бұрын
What is the English pronunciation of Yahweh? Why don't you use that pronunciation when the world over it is used by millions upon millions?
@ehhsee6804
@ehhsee6804 11 жыл бұрын
the reason we believe in God is real simple one. The biggest, He saves you from hell, He guides, teaches and leads you, He loves you unconditionally, He forgives your sins, He provides for you, He leads you to everlasting life in Him, His kindness, mercy, love, forgiveness, peace, and Joy He lavishes upon you.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
The gates of Hell/hades shall NOT prevail against the church, the called out ones. Hell is man's invention and God intends to dismantle it and set the prisoners free, all of them, none left behind. That's the truly Good News.
@shannon1542
@shannon1542 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your overstanding 🙏❤️
@LindaLorra
@LindaLorra 11 жыл бұрын
All in good time. We must continue in faith- God has already laid out the plan, and the bride of Christ is being perfected. It is time to begin rejoicing and praising God. The end of all things - as we know them - is here. He WILL draw all men unto himself- and we walk forward in assurance. We are led of the Spirit, and we hear His voice. I am just as anxious to see the darkness and blindness removed- even desperate! We must simply get up each day and listen, and go about our business.
@racevanandros2916
@racevanandros2916 3 жыл бұрын
You are awesome Brother, Blessed. Agape.
@Jz-en9pi
@Jz-en9pi 5 жыл бұрын
Oh I haven't seen the whole video! Wow! Thank you!
@guezerahdecree
@guezerahdecree 9 жыл бұрын
also, the particular original text word for 'fire' in the 'lake of fire' literally means 'smelter'(puros) rather than 'fire'(pur). smelter purifies the desired/sought after element, which prepares the precious element to be tested with the touchstone you so excellently taught about in this great video, beLoved Bro. JesusLoveTruth is without end....
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 9 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in getting that info you wrote about if you could email it to me, regarding smelter.
@guezerahdecree
@guezerahdecree 9 жыл бұрын
I used the texus receptus (green's interlinear parallel bible) & the strong's exhaustive concordance & I do check the modern greek to English dictionary sometimes. in all the other parts of New Testament Greek text that I've found for the word for 'fire' in English, it's the greek word 'pur', which when I studied that exact spelling found it to mean 'fire'. in the Revelation term 'lake of fire' in the greek, the particular word for 'fire' in that original text prase, I found to have a different spelling which is 'puros'. so I did a literal word study of that exact spelling, and found it to be 'smelter'. isn't that Beautiful, bro? JesusLoveTruth is without end.... check out my videos and comment anytime beLoved brother. (I plan on keeping you and your wife in my daily prayers. continue in Christ & in HIM we will Endure....) my email is: guezerahdecree@gmail.com
@jameswhite6266
@jameswhite6266 9 жыл бұрын
guezerahdecree I have this idea already before you showed us the proper translation. I just do not have the book knowledge to say, Hey....this is what it means. Lake? Is that the correct interpretation?
@guezerahdecree
@guezerahdecree 9 жыл бұрын
James White hello, james. (Blessings) i found the original word for 'lake' in the 'lake of fire' phrase, that 'lake' is literally a "harbor" &/or "pond". JesusLoveTruth is ours without end....
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 9 жыл бұрын
guezerahdecree Yes, a harbour or a small lake.
@carolmueller3191
@carolmueller3191 3 жыл бұрын
Here is a question about the lake of fire! How can it be literal when the Scriptures say that death and the grave are hurled into it? Can you literally burn death or the grave? The Scriptures say that death will be no more, Revelation 21:4, so there will be no more need for the grave. Could it be that the lake of fire symbolizes eternal destruction? Would that make sense?
@grimlund
@grimlund Ай бұрын
Or maybe Its just made up. The Bible contradicts it self all the time.
@boasnoticiaspravoce134
@boasnoticiaspravoce134 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you God for Your Truth! And for your servant Gary! Jesus´s Love wins at all!!
@somewords8760
@somewords8760 8 жыл бұрын
Jesus paid the penalty for sin. He did suffer greatly, but not for eternity! So how can eternal suffering be a just penalty for sin? Also, would not Satan be the victor (at least, in a sense) if there were such a place for all those who weren't saved? His kingdom would be many times larger than God's!
@seankennedy4284
@seankennedy4284 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I've this thought as well. Were ha-satan allowed an eternal realm and dwelling would reward him for his turning away from YHWH. This would make no sense to me.
@peterlee4458
@peterlee4458 6 жыл бұрын
don't be deceived, the lake of fire or hell was created for the devil, the fallen angels, and those following devil ! note that the bible says the father of those not believing in Jesus is the devil !
@jamesmccluskey7551
@jamesmccluskey7551 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Lee you have not read your Bible at all. Luke 3:6
@eMj-so9bq
@eMj-so9bq 5 жыл бұрын
Douglas Butler yep He left the 99 and just saved the 1. And the cross was not a success. And not to mention Adam’s transgression was way bigger than the redeeming act of the last Adam.
@shanestrickland5006
@shanestrickland5006 5 жыл бұрын
That's the logical conclushion.
@resurrectionway
@resurrectionway 11 жыл бұрын
great message
@S.D.L46XX
@S.D.L46XX 9 жыл бұрын
A God who puts people in everlasting fire is more terrible. The church even makes us believe that we must keep sunday as the day of rest, instead of saturday ( Shabbat ). Also to have christmas and eastern , instead of the seven Feasts of Yah.
@mrs.bartlett6047
@mrs.bartlett6047 5 жыл бұрын
@Douglas Butler that would make God worse than Satan. Love strictly out of fear is fake and unhealthy and a lot of Christian's only claim to love God because they're fearful of burning forever, not because they're actually Thankful for what he has done and does for them.
@plsleaveblank
@plsleaveblank 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video 🙏 New to Christ, appreciate this info
@johnnyquest1610
@johnnyquest1610 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Makes a lot of sense but Sir do you have a good explanation of why the Lake of Fire is called the second death?
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 6 жыл бұрын
Death and Hades are thrown into the lake of divine fire. it's the death of death which brings life.
@johnnyquest1610
@johnnyquest1610 6 жыл бұрын
tentmaker777 OK thank you.
@dameonnelson3543
@dameonnelson3543 Ай бұрын
Hope and Love pray for all but i have to agree with you and somethings are completely out of our control medicines addictions all are capable of causing issues with your mind and body we need to turn to the Lord and thank God over and over again for knowing everything even if we dont understand
@brucelawson5427
@brucelawson5427 Жыл бұрын
I can't help thinking if Gary that he who has been preaching universal salvation for a long time, would one not think if he was not right in what he teaches God would have some thing to say about it? Thankyou for these teaching they are very encouraging.
@pegcage
@pegcage 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the typos in what I just wrote. Could the LAKE OF FIRE be a place where all thrown into it will be annihilated (SECOND DEATH), but that it will not be used because there will be no one left to be thrown there after Jesus saves all?
@ZRWF
@ZRWF 5 жыл бұрын
The second death is just more death. Death isn't fun.
@streamhunters9940
@streamhunters9940 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hope and encouragement tentmaker. Do you think satan will be reconciled?
@davidford15
@davidford15 5 жыл бұрын
Some in the early church thought that even the devil would willingly bend the knee to Jesus.
@teagan75
@teagan75 4 жыл бұрын
Paul does say everything in the heavens, on the earth and under the earth will be reconciled. Ephesians 1:10
@kristenking1007
@kristenking1007 2 жыл бұрын
Which means we would have to forgive him too!
@worrywort
@worrywort 12 жыл бұрын
Fab video Gary! Thank you! But I wonder, if the concordances and lexicons can't be trusted, where do you turn for accurate definitions of original Greek and Hebrew words?
@teagan75
@teagan75 4 жыл бұрын
Ask God for wisdom
@piperpompompurin
@piperpompompurin 2 жыл бұрын
@@teagan75 god taught me Greek and Hebrew and I wasn’t even trying. 🙄 Study to be approved.
@rodneyevans75
@rodneyevans75 12 жыл бұрын
Could you make clear about the ages of the ages cause that sounds like a really long time to spend in the lake of fire
@teagan75
@teagan75 4 жыл бұрын
The age of the ages. The best age of all the ages.
@pauljay482
@pauljay482 7 жыл бұрын
Hello good Sir, with blessings and greetings. I read your comment underneath where you state that the lake of fire is death to death... I'd like to get your take on those not found in the book of life. Who are they do you suppose? As they have no call to account it would seem! I just thought of one possibility and that is the fallen angels that lost their estate perhaps. In Christ our saviour
@quinnvandehoef8699
@quinnvandehoef8699 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to reconcile it with Reprobates? 💔
@Jz-en9pi
@Jz-en9pi 5 жыл бұрын
The music was distracting. Thanks anyway,
@johnkw47
@johnkw47 11 жыл бұрын
When did Gary ever say to carelessly do whatever you please? God never said to Adam, "You shall undergo eternal torment." He said, "Dying, you shall die."
@Chann223
@Chann223 7 жыл бұрын
So question. What in theory would ,or will I should say, happen to those souls whom are tested by the fire and nothing of worth is found in them?
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 7 жыл бұрын
everyone has been given "The measure of faith." There is a divine spark in all of us. And who is to say "what is of worth?" Our Father has the ability to turn all things to our good. All things. Believe. Even the worst suffering in this world is precious to Him and He can bring incredible things from it. Some of those who have suffered the most at the hands of evil have brought forth tremendous courage and hope, but it required the dark and evil to bring forth the light in them. One day....your enemy will be your friend.
@Chann223
@Chann223 7 жыл бұрын
tentmaker777 I like your response.
@pegcage
@pegcage 9 жыл бұрын
I love and embraces what Gary teaches. There are some things I am still wondering about though. The Lake of Fire, according to Revelation, seems to be a place where all evil is destroyed. I have often wondered if, when it says, "This is the second death," it means that all who are not in the Book of Life will be destroyed. All evil, all evil souls that refuse God to the end. The first death being phisical death, the second death being the death of the soul, or what some would call annihilation on an individual. Now, if in fact that is the correct interpretation of the passage, that would not mean necessarily that ANY persons would end up there. If universal salvation is true, perhaps that would be the destiny of those not finally saved, but in reality perhaps as Gary says, Jesus is completely victorious and NO ONE will end in the Lake of Fire. I also find it interesting that at the resurrection, Hell itself is thrown in the Lake of Fire. Does that not perhaps mean the annihilation of Hell itself? I would like to study all this more.
@jameswhite6266
@jameswhite6266 9 жыл бұрын
Good questions and points Mary. Answers come from asking questions. :) The Lake of fire (pur) (smelter) sounds like a soul washing. Why does it have to be that the second death means annihilation. Where does the bible say: The second death is an annihilation? I return, and close with that question.
@jamesmccluskey6560
@jamesmccluskey6560 6 жыл бұрын
Mary Cage the real meaning of the lake of fire: The devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet are also. They will be tormented day and night forever and ever.” - Revelation 20:10. Modern bible translations depict the lake of fire as the most terrifying place imaginable. A realm of eternal torture in fire. The problem is the Apostle John is not talking about a lake at all but a tiny pool of molten metal called a crucible. For most Christians this will be the first time you understand these passages. The actual word picture used in these passages has been completely lost in translation simply because the translators are not metallurgists. Are you curious? Keep reading. The lake of fire with sulfur is the image of an ancient gold refining process. Literally a crucible of molten gold with sulfur added to eliminate impurities. This understanding is confirmed in Revelation 3:18. “I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire.” Christ himself uses the image of gold refined in fire when rebuking the church in Laodicea for being neither hot nor cold. The lake of fire was never meant to be understood as an actual lake or realm of punishment in literal fire. Rather the lake of fire is merely a picture of the gold refiner’s crucible, the process of purifying gold. Understanding the imagery of the Greek words behind these passages brings the text to life. The Greek word translated as “lake” literally means a pond, large or small, depending on the context. This is the Greek word limné: “Probably from limen (through the idea of nearness of shore); a pond (large or small) -- lake.” (Strong’s Concordance). Thus the lake of fire is the image of a tiny pond of molten metal as we would see in a refiner’s crucible not a lake filled with fire. Only a psychopath would torture people in literal fire for all eternity. Most certainly God, who is love, would not do such a thing nor would it come to his mind. Sulfur, also known as brimstone, has been used in the refining of metals since ancient times. Gold refining by sulphurization is even still done by the United States mint (a). Sulfur is highly reactive and by adding small amounts of sulfur to the crucible unwanted metals are transformed into suphides. This reaction will even flash and smoke. The gold itself is resistant to this reaction and will settle to bottom in a more purified form since the other metals, now trapped as suphides, float to the top. The ancients would not have understand the chemistry behind this process but they most certainly understood the results. Pure gold! But what about being tormented in fire? The Greek word translated as “torment” is actually the word “touchstone”. This is the Greek word “basanizó”. “Cognate: 931 básanos - originally, a black, silicon-based stone used as "a touchstone" to test the purity of precious metals (like silver and gold).” - (Strong’s Concordance). The Greek word básanos is where we get the word “basalt”, a type of rock that was used for making touchstones in the ancient world. The use of the word touchstone absolutely confirms the lake of fire is a gold refiner’s crucible. A touchstone was used in ancient times to check the purity of gold and is still used by jewelers today. By the striking a line of gold on the touchstone the color produced reveals the level of purity. That is the meaning of the word “tormented” in modern bibles, a process for testing the purity of gold. An additional test for assaying the gold can be performed as well. By applying an acid to the line of gold on the touchstone the non-gold elements will react and even smoke (c.). The more impurities on the stone the more it will smoke. Therefore the lake of fire is not a realm of eternal torture in fire. The lake of fire is a metaphor of gold refining and not an actual place or lake at all. The Apostle John is using the abstract idea of a person being refined, then tested and refined again, with each cycle resulting in higher grades of purity. This is not an endless process. The Greek words translated as “forever and ever” are more literally translated as “in the ages of ages”. The words used in the passage are cognate adjectives from the Greek word aión. Short Definition: an age, a cycle of time. (Strong’s Greek: 165). Modern bible translations have also dropped the preposition “in” and inserted “forever”. The Greek preposition is “eis,” pronounced “ice”. Strong’s 1519 Definition: into, in, unto, to, upon, towards, for, among. Literally this means “in” or moving into. (Strong’s Greek: 1519). Therefore if accurately translated we should read, “in the ages of ages.” This applies to all the passages in Revelation translated as “forever and ever.” For example, “They will reign forever and ever” is incorrect. It should read “They will reign in the ages of ages”. Getting the preposition correct is critical to understanding these passages. It is the difference between the idea of merely being somewhere and a duration of time. In other words the passage is telling when this will happen not specifically how long it will take. Just like WWII occurred in the 20th century but did not last through it. Evil doers will be tested and refined by God for as long as it takes, in the ages of ages. This is to return them to the pure state in which they were originally created to be. Early church fathers called this “the apokatastasis”, the restoration of all people and all things. This passage should be translated: “The devil who deceived them was thrown into the refiner's crucible with sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet are also. They will be tested for purity day and night in the ages of ages.” - Revelation 20:10. Therefore they will be tested and refined in the ages of ages and not literally through all eternity. Although not a torture chamber in fire this passage it is still a picture of justice. Some have speculated that true justice would be to experience the pain and suffering we caused for others through the eyes of our victims. That if we were careless and selfish and lived without mercy toward others we also will not receive mercy in equal measure. As believers we are taught to be merciful because mercy triumphs over judgment “So speak, and so do, as men who are to be judged by a law of freedom. For judgment is without mercy to him who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.” - (James 2:12-13). So from now on when you read about the “lake of fire” remember the tiny crucible used for refining gold. That is the imagery the Apostle John is actually using, the so-called lake of fire. Then one has to ask themselves! If hell is real which its not then- Why Did The God-fearing Man Job Want To Go To Hell?
@angelapileggi6031
@angelapileggi6031 6 жыл бұрын
James, THANK YOU for sharing all that, that's some great information! God bless.
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance 5 жыл бұрын
God Or Yahweh is the lake of fire. Yahweh is the consuming. Hell is the grave or these physical bodies
@theswordoftruth6509
@theswordoftruth6509 2 жыл бұрын
hmm interesting take, So then what is your interpretation of Mathew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. What do you suppose that everlasting Punishment might be?
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
Please read "Ever Been To Hell And Back" by Gary Amirault on the Tentmaker Ministries site. The article will deal with issues like Mary Baxter's Divine Revelations and Bill Weiss's 23 Minutes in Hell and many more.
@chasingamy704
@chasingamy704 3 жыл бұрын
What did jesus mean then when he said if your eye , hand etc.. causes you to sin, CUT IT OFF, for it is better to go into life maimed than into the fire that will never be quenched?
@mankirankamaal174
@mankirankamaal174 3 жыл бұрын
What is a good bible to have ?
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 12 жыл бұрын
@BlazyJon I think a more fitting city is the one describes in the Bible. Jerusalem sits on seven mountains and is the city in which Christ was killed. Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Spiritually and physically speaking Jerusalem is where Christ was killed, not Mecca.
@SwordofManticorE
@SwordofManticorE 12 жыл бұрын
@opengates777 The OT was written in Hebrew, but the English translations of the NT came from the Greek language.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
So then Andrew, is this on earth, beneath the earth, in space eternally separated from God? In His presence? So you'll get to see friends and family of your with worms in them eternally? And you will be joyful about this in heaven? The books "The Bible Hell" and "Bible Threatenings Explained" on the Tentmaker Ministries site have better explanations for this imagery than the traditional model. Apocalyptic language should NOT be taken literally.
@dw2369
@dw2369 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr . Tent Maker, I have been watching your videos and believe what you teach in regards to hell. I am a Christian and attend a Church Of Christ . I want to share the gospel but have a problem with the modern concept of hell. Most people will ask you about hell and my learned response would be that it is an everlasting punishment in an everlasting fire. I think this concept repels not saves.
@fromhell1980
@fromhell1980 5 жыл бұрын
D W he passed away already about a year ago.
@egomerego
@egomerego 11 жыл бұрын
Sorry, the sum of two negatives is a negative, however the product (multiply) of two negatives is a positive. A more apt analogy from math might be: death (lake of fire) will cancel out death, leaving only life.
@bryanpratt5850
@bryanpratt5850 10 жыл бұрын
Do you think the devil will or could be forgiven eventually? If he would, I suppose it would probably be at the very end, since he fell at the very beginning. I think of the scripture that the last enemy to be destroy is death. (1 Corinthians 15:26)
@grimlund
@grimlund Ай бұрын
Not even Satan deserves eternal torments.
@roveirarovixx1990
@roveirarovixx1990 2 жыл бұрын
Question if Jesus came back in 70AD did he already judge all? Than what happens if your wicked now and die you still going to lake of fire? Not all people are all in all in God yet that's for sure. I still hope on salvation.
@SwordofManticorE
@SwordofManticorE 12 жыл бұрын
@opengates777 Isaiah 45:22 “Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. 23 By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
@Baa975
@Baa975 2 жыл бұрын
What about Revelation 14 9-11?
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 10 жыл бұрын
Seems to me they are real. But in some circles people make too much of them and some circles, not enough.
@kevseb66
@kevseb66 13 жыл бұрын
I am very conflicted about this video. There's a part of me that truely needs to believe what you're saying about God & the absence of hell but i can't help but remember the scripture that speaks about those coming in the last days with teaching appealing to "itching ears".
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 12 жыл бұрын
@aaronclark2007 nope, it's called Bible Study.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 13 жыл бұрын
If the 2 billion Christians on the face of this earth learned what was in this video and turned from this hideous teaching, the world would dramatically change. It is time!
@seanmick3093
@seanmick3093 Жыл бұрын
I trusted in the Lord of Jesus Christ as my personal savior into my heart through faith alone, and not of works, by accepting his free gift of salvation, by his grace on February 16, 1996, each day, I confess sins for process of sanctification, to receive Jesus Christ as your personal savior, please refer to John 3:16-18:36, 5:24, 6:47, 10:27-29, 14:6, Acts 2:38, 16:30-31, Luke 15:10, Roman's 3:23, 4:5, 6:23, 10:9-10:13, Ephesians 2:8-10, and Titus 3:5. God bless the world, and thank you for sharing.
@shanestrickland5006
@shanestrickland5006 5 жыл бұрын
Well i play violent video game's and have no interest in harming people. I see real life fighting as poisen. Unles to save a life i don't want to fight.
@rodneyevans75
@rodneyevans75 12 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to undersand your point Gary. So tell me.... What happens to the people, afte they are tested? Do they go to heaven?? Do satan and faulse prophet go to heaven??
@johnkw47
@johnkw47 11 жыл бұрын
Gary, I take it literally, and I *still* find no warrant for Eternal Conscious Torment in Isaiah 66. This is an Earth scene with carcasses, not Gehenna or the Lake of Fire. Caveat: I take "their worm shall not die" and "neither shall their fire be quenched" to mean "... until they have finished their work of consuming." So maybe I don't take it in a wooden literalistic sense. This is consumption language. But what happens to these people in the afterlife isn't spoken of here.
@mythacat1
@mythacat1 5 ай бұрын
Jesus Teaches Universal Reconcloation in Mathew 19 & Luke 18. Peter actually gets upset, at first, about it, but clearly states this fact in his epistle. God is the Saviour of all men, especially those that believe. In Exekiel 16 God tells us he plans to restore Sodom, there' plenty of verses that indicate this. The issue is the Latin understanding of Aeternalus vs the Greek understanding of Aeon. The early Greek church was universalist, but Latin Theologians weren't. I believe it is for refinement, haven't watched yet.
@thecarlitosshow7687
@thecarlitosshow7687 2 ай бұрын
I see Peter does react but I don’t see exactly in what meaning. I’m a Universalist btw
@ehhsee6804
@ehhsee6804 11 жыл бұрын
Not only can we take the Bible literally but we must take the Bible literally. This is the only way to determine what God really is trying to communicate to us. One reason we should take the Bible literally is because the Lord Jesus Christ took it literally. Whenever the Lord Jesus quoted from the Old Testament it was always clear that He believed in its literal interpretation. The Bible is Gods Word to us and he meant it to be believed literally and completely.
@grimlund
@grimlund Ай бұрын
So you cant have any hands left or any eyes left to see with. Didnt Jesus tell you to cut off your hand or poke out your eye to keep you from sinning? Since the Bible is to take literally you must go and get your axe now.
@allsevenspirits
@allsevenspirits 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you're right, man.
@Jaxguy35
@Jaxguy35 11 жыл бұрын
How do you explain all the people that have had near death experiences and went to hell. This is what is preventing me from fully believing you.
@gusanotaylor
@gusanotaylor 8 жыл бұрын
You're right that the scriptures do no where mention anything about eternal torment. But you would also do well to realize that they also do not clearly reveal that there is no such thing. It is something which is now a mystery that we might fear before Them. In stating so authoritatively that there is no eternal torment I think you are jumping the gun. I hope and suspect that you will prove to have been correct about this ineffably important issue, but how can you prophesy so boldly when you haven't gotten it from the Lord? Also, to imagine that there will be no more night and day throughout eternity sounds whacked to me. It would make eternity inferior by far in that respect to our current reality. The new Earth will have a new sun and the new universe will have more than a few other stars. Even though, needless to say, I'm very familiar with Revelation 21:23.
@spa05akw
@spa05akw 11 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, the NDE are contradictory. Some people see hell, some others hadn´t seen that.
@PowerGearPerformance
@PowerGearPerformance 5 жыл бұрын
Well that's not contradictory. It just people having different NDEs.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 13 жыл бұрын
The "last days" in the New Testament have already happened by 70AD. John said in his day it was the "last hour". The gospel went to the "ends of the world" 2,000 years ago. "Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." (1 Cor. 10:11, KJV, most translations now read "ends of the ages.") You see, the "ends of the world" have come and gone. email me for more info. Visit the Tentmaker Ministry site.
@teagan75
@teagan75 4 жыл бұрын
Read Revelation 12. There are two time periods mentioned. Yes, there was a sort of “last days” or tribulation that happened after Jesus ascended. That time period lasted 1260 days. Then later in the chapter the church is nourished for a time, times and half a time. Another figure of speech. This time period separates that tribulation from the very last one. All prophecies are dual. Prophets were required to predict something that would happen soon to validate the rest of the prophecy. This is a test God told the Israelites to use to determine if a prophet was sent from God.
@dafflad1
@dafflad1 3 жыл бұрын
Guys. It’s not rocket science. The lake of fire is not an eternal tormenting pool of eternal punishment. It’s mentioned in Revelation 19 and 20. In Revelation 19 it is also known as the lake of burning sulfur. Revelation 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. If you are sharp you will realise it actually is a reference to some Old Testament text. Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah -from the LORD out of the heavens. Deuteronomy 29:23 The whole land will be a burning waste of salt and sulfur-nothing planted, nothing sprouting, no vegetation growing on it. It will be like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboyim, which the LORD overthrew in fierce anger. Luke 17:29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all. Thus you would see it’s a reference to Sodom. Now. Genesis 14:2-3 these kings went to war against Bera king of Sodom, Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, Shemeber king of Zeboyim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar). All these latter kings joined forces in the Valley of Siddim (that is, the Dead Sea Valley ). Notice Sodom is located at the Dead Sea? If you do a bit of research the Dead Sea was actually a lake filled with sulfur before. Hence. The Lake of Fire is clearly a reference to Sodom. Now here’s the tricky part. Go back to Revelation. What did the author say about Sodom? Revelation 11:8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city -which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt-where also their Lord was crucified. It’s used as a figurative speech about the city the Lord was crucified. Now. Do you see it? Sodom there is Jerusalem. This is what the Lake of Fire is. Jerusalem in AD70. Get a life. The Lake of Fire is in your past.
@Baa975
@Baa975 2 жыл бұрын
What about Rev 14 9-11m?
@dafflad1
@dafflad1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Baa975 do you belong to one of the seven churches of Asia Minor ? No you don’t , revelation is not written to you or me - this is the preamble to the whole - be at peace Revelation 1.4 4John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
@Baa975
@Baa975 2 жыл бұрын
@@dafflad1 interesting
@dafflad1
@dafflad1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Baa975 God’s wrath was never on you. Revelation 8:1-5 The Seventh Seal and the Golden Censer When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them. Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God’s people, on the golden altar in front of the throne. The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God’s people, went up before God from the angel’s hand. Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake. Thus began the 7 trumpets. Now so many people says this is God’s pouring his wrath on everyone. What people do not understand this is actually a process which happened in a Jewish temple. Leviticus 16:12-13 Aaron is to take a censer full of burning coals from the altar before the LORD and two handfuls of finely ground fragrant incense and take them behind the curtain. He is to put the incense on the fire before the LORD, and the smoke of the incense will conceal the atonement cover above the tablets of the covenant law, so that he will not die. This is done in silence for half an hour. He does this alone. Leviticus 16:17 No one is to be in the tent of meeting from the time Aaron goes in to make atonement in the Most Holy Place until he comes out, having made atonement for himself, his household and the whole community of Israel. The smoke and the incense here represent the prayers of the saints. Now many people then argue that these are the saints through out Christianity. This is not true. It’s actually about these people. Revelation 6:9-11 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been. Now let me show you something. Matthew 23:31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Now look at this. Matthew 23:35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Now look at this. Matthew 23:34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, More people dying together with the ones crying out to God for revenge. Now look at this. Revelation 8:5 Then the angel took the censer and filled it with fire from the altar and threw it on the earth, and there were peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning, and an earthquake. This is God answering these people’s prayers. This is also what Jesus prophesied. Matthew 23:36-38 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation. “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. This desolate house is the temple. That’s why in the next chapter he said this. Matthew 24:2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” So when you read about the 7 trumpets and it’s bowls, it’s about God punishing Jerusalem for her sins for killing the prophets. Not yours. By the way this is what it means here. Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance -now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. The sins of the first covenant was referring to the sins of Jerusalem. Jesus came to call people out of old Jerusalem onto the New Jerusalem. Hebrews 13:12-13 And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore. This same call is echoed here. Revelation 18:4 Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “‘Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; Babylon here is figuratively Jerusalem. As such we learn something here. God was never angry at you. This was about the religious leaders of Jerusalem in that generation. The wrath of God was against the Jews who killed Jesus. 1 Thessalonians 2:15-16 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last. So. God was never angry with you. You were born in Christ. You never tresspassed against the Law. That’s how you read the Bible. That’s how it sets you free.
@Baa975
@Baa975 2 жыл бұрын
@@dafflad1 so Rev has no standing?
@racevanandros2916
@racevanandros2916 3 жыл бұрын
What about demons?
@JesusWantsU
@JesusWantsU 5 жыл бұрын
But it's a DRY heat!
@oceangrove129
@oceangrove129 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary, Shared This Video on Facebook, Sulfur, a purifier & a Touchstone for refining Gold & Silver. Rev. 20:10 & 1Cor. 3:15 are a Scriptural Match.
@SwordofManticorE
@SwordofManticorE 12 жыл бұрын
@warriorspikes51 Before you accuse anyone of lying, show me in Greek scripture where Christ said hellfire.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
The point is, the Bible says, all souls are his, all spirits are His, all who died in Adam will be made alive in Christ, He came to save the world. He is the savior of the world, especially those who believe, He will "draw all mankind to Himself." your differentiating is quite unbiblical and VERY pridefully and that usually makes one quite blind. Have you ever considered there's more devil in you than your pride cares to acknowledge? If Jesus IS the "savior of the world, then you are a liar, yes
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
The murderers of Christ, were they not children of the devil? Did they not murder Jesus? And what was Jesus' prayer about them to the Father? Question, will the Father do what Jesus asked? Forgive them? And what about the murder, liar and thief that abides in you? You can't see him? One day you will. You put Christ on the cross just like every single one of us. May God open your eyes and then allow you to ask forgiveness for how you judged your brothers and sisters who are no different than you.
@jamesmccluskey6560
@jamesmccluskey6560 6 жыл бұрын
You talked about Salvation and how people are giving a different meaning of that word. Well the word of God says they will have a different meaning and come up with their own definition of that word salvation. Worldly people despise Christ's true plan of salvation and dangerously invent their own - 1 Cor. 1:19-29
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 6 жыл бұрын
"Love Your Enemies." God is Love a love that never fails. Can you believe that? Can you do that? Does your "theology" or your church's theology line up with a love that never fails for anyone?
@louturco8025
@louturco8025 4 жыл бұрын
If this guy is write does that mean Noah’s ark is wrong. Would we drown are children ?
@stevedyches4635
@stevedyches4635 Жыл бұрын
The flood story is said by some to be symbolic of baptism, the beginning of a washing away or cleansing process, transformation, and eventual renewal. Renewal is a recurring theme throughout the Bible. Job is a good example, he lost it all but persevered and prevailed in the end. The waters, as with fire, are symbolic of the Holy Spirit. The mountaintop represents the highest elevation of spiritual progression, also known as the heavenly realm. It is often used as the place or setting where holy men go alone to commune with God and can be found. It is a serene place of peace and tranquility, stillness, far from the ways and distractions of the world, you see. Many believe Heaven and Hell are merely states of the mind or places of consciousness, peace of mind vs. torment or happiness vs. misery. The earth represents the egotistical carnal mind or nature of man, the lower spiritual elevation far removed from the heavenly realm that is the mountaintop. Another way to look at it is two of every animal inside of a vessel steered by a prophet and his family is an allegory to the base, animalistic inclinations within the male and female human being: a vessel that houses both the physical and the spiritual. Noah and his tribe represent the latter. We are spiritual beings clothed in animal skins and are the vessels that house many types of beastly things. The spirit realm is the intangible thought world in our heads, the mind, like a ghost in the machine, and is where all of our experiences occur and are stored and all of our good vs. evil powers reside. Human psychology is mostly what the Bible stories are about and the human condition, in general. Physiology comes into play as well as the mind and body are intimately connected with both having profound effects on the other and also dependence. Psyche is Greek for the soul, mind, or spirit. The condition of one's psyche determines many outcomes and many are corrupted or utterly destroyed. Our mentality matters in other words. Proper mind management is key. We are the gatekeepers and caretakers of our domain. Like a well-maintained garden, our minds can produce good fruits abundantly. The Garden of Eden is akin to Heaven on Earth. Eden is said to mean delight or paradise. Our minds are in need of continual upkeep and weed free is best. Seeds are thoughts and good and bad seeds alike will take root when nurtured. Where we dwell spiritually depends on what we dwell on. The point is to create Heaven on Earth for ourselves and others and it all starts or ends with our minds. The Devil is inside and in need of restraint. He is our dark side and adversary that tends to cause a lot of trouble and convinces us of doing things that we know are wrong. He is that other inner voice that is subtle, cunning, and crafty. We easily justify our choice and talk ourselves into whatever it is that we strongly desired in the first place. Eve beguiled or wholly seduced herself, you see. Christ lives in you and the Bible says the Kingdom of God is within you. Many are waiting for Him to come busting through the clouds in the sky someday, but he is and has been here in our hearts waiting to be resurrected. Rapture is yet another state of mind, a glorious one. A divine state of mind that is content and causes one's entire outlook on the world and their life to change for the better. Rapture is a feeling of emotional ecstasy so magical it's almost as if you've been transported to some other world. Our mental states are carried forward into manifestation and become our experience in daily living.
@MarieGlen444
@MarieGlen444 11 жыл бұрын
Most URer's belief is that ultimately all will believe! My own personal way of thinking is why the 2nd resurrection (of all unbelievers) if they are just to perish or worse? And, once all have experienced being resurrected, and have witnessed a very loong day of the judgment (lesson) of all human history.. and then they hear the words "all those not believing will go to the 2nd death" how many will not "believe"? Jesus told thePharisees"you will die in your sins"means2B raised still in your sins
@rev.terrycase4127
@rev.terrycase4127 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Only few will find so quit calling God a LIAR. Mamy will find the wide road to DESTRUCTION ---NOT TORMENT!
@ba.anderson
@ba.anderson 5 жыл бұрын
Jer8:7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD. 8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 2 жыл бұрын
the Lake of Fire is for eternal judgement.....no refinement going on there......just endless suffering....Mt 25.46 And these will go away kinto eternal punishment, but the righteous kinto leternal life.”
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 2 жыл бұрын
notice the two words.....eternal judgement....no refinement, going on, here....just another way to twist scripture.....if it were refinement.....it would not be such a stark teaching....
@christhomas5761
@christhomas5761 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipbuckley759 , I just stumbled across this video after watching another similar video... I have to admit I wish this teaching could be correct but at the same time if it is , how much more of the bible could be translated wrong ? However, if all of this is to be taken literally and if the translations are correct then I also have to admit that I have to understand the hesitancy of those people who may be find it terrifying to serve a God that has a place for souls to be tormented and to be literally burned forever and ever with absolutely no hope for an end even after a billion years of being burned like charcoal in the lake of fire .
@egomerego
@egomerego 11 жыл бұрын
just an opinion perhaps, but bickering isn't going to do anything good. None of us are able to judge, but we can pray for discernment. I suggest whenever we come upon something with which we disagree, we take the opportunity to examine it more carefully in our own heart rather than attacking another. To be very basic, though the wicked one has sown tares among the good crop, Satan is not the Creator of anything/one. He sows in our hearts and it is not for us to decide who is a tare or not.
@bryanpratt5850
@bryanpratt5850 10 жыл бұрын
Is the devil real? Are demons real?
@bradensmith5969
@bradensmith5969 3 жыл бұрын
I believe so.
@SwordofManticorE
@SwordofManticorE 12 жыл бұрын
@opengates777 If you combine a carnal view to scripture with fear, blind ego, selfrightiouse pride, a hidden desire for vengence and spark the religiouse engine with a pharisitica spirit. You get a determind believer of hell. To suppose that God would bring beings into existence for both His purpose and pleasure who He knew would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him with the utmost malignity.
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 11 жыл бұрын
Argh. Thanks for the math lesson.
@MarieGlen444
@MarieGlen444 11 жыл бұрын
which is still an inferior resurrection.. for a while, anyway :)) blessings!
@ConstantCompanion
@ConstantCompanion 6 жыл бұрын
I've been studying and reading about this for a couple of months now. I've been looking intoJewish writings, Greek writings, any historical document I could find. I've been a Christian my whole life, and it's difficult to say this, but because Christianity is so close to the Egyptian religion, and the purpose it had back then, and from what I can pick up, it's hard to believe I'm even saying this, but I think that this planet is as the new age people say. It's a source for energy. I think that's why they're eliminating people. It's not working out very well, so they're trying to upgrade. I don't believe that there are planets are aliens, but there are some very smart people in control here. I don't know if you can get out of it. If it means anything, the Jewish folk tend to think that that bright light you see when you die is a birth canal. It's you coming back. The best guess I've got, is don't go that way. Ask you what is the other way? I don't know. In every scenario I can find, memories are erased. That's Christianity and the number of others. The gods or God that we think loves us, is the one who keeps this whole thing going. This is a factory. And we are the workers. I can't believe I just said that, but that is how it looks. The only good news I can see is it appears to be falling apart. I don't know about you, but I've had some mighty weird experiences in the last decade or two, that really can't be explained other than the mechanism doesn't seem to be working very well anymore. Maybe there's an out that way.
@angelapileggi6031
@angelapileggi6031 6 жыл бұрын
+ConstantCompanion Checkout the youtube channels Godrules, and Sons of Thunder...he's down to earth and not preachy, and has a background in engineering (he's a smart logical thinker). He has videos covering conspiracies, and he makes a lot of sense of the problems with scripture. Don't give up on Christianity, you'll throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are some crazy demonic things happening in our world right now, look into the illuminati, this is a good place to start kzbin.info/www/bejne/l327p6CQnqp6jdE > All paths of the new age lead directly to "ye shall be as gods", Satanism...don't fall for it, it's a GREAT deception, and remember Lucifer (Satan) is an expert at confusion. if you think we are all just 'workers", to soem extent you are right...but that's not God, that's living in a fallen world where the elite want to trap everyone in thankless 9-5 grinds, as they destroy all things good through brainwashing. Don't believe in reincarnation, God doesn't need to recycle, and the very reason things are so bad as they are, is because we were given free will, and so are angels...and now we're winding down to the end of days where things are getting progressively worse until Christ returns and cleans house....so you have a world full of both good and bad human beings, and spiritual beings. Fallen angels can also cause people to have visions, and strange experiences...especially during a near death experience! We are super vulnerable while asleep, or when our spirit is out of our bodies. Even if you've been a Christian your whole life, if you don't have much of an understanding about the spiritual warfare going on, it will be easy to get off track. Good luck, and God bless, I have said a prayer for you for what it's worth. Do not be deceived! Dig deeper, and pray for clarity.
@carolmueller3191
@carolmueller3191 3 жыл бұрын
Awwww the lake of fire isn't a literal firey lake. Did you notice in Revelation 21:14 that death and the grave are hurled into the lake of fire? Think for a moment, can you throw death, can you hurl the grave? Can you burn either death or the grave? The lake of fire "means".... the second death or destruction. Chapter 21 of Revelation says that death will be no more....no need for the grave then. So symbolically they are done away with, fire is a fitting symbol of eternal destruction. Anyway, the dead are unconscious, Ecclesiastes 9:5,10, and the soul dies, Ezekiel 18:4,20. They can utilize your chest wide open or do a lobotomy and if your unconscious, you don't feel a thing. 😊 Remember, the Devil has been lying from the beginning. God cannot lie, Titus 1:2; Psalms 83:18.
@TIMMY12181
@TIMMY12181 5 жыл бұрын
It's a lie?
@ricardorichy6176
@ricardorichy6176 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is spreading false news god created hell for the devil
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 9 жыл бұрын
The lake of fire kills whoever is thrown into it. That means finite torment followed by being unconscious forever.
@ZRWF
@ZRWF 5 жыл бұрын
He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God--
@facefact3737
@facefact3737 4 жыл бұрын
Why did God allow the corruption in bible translation?
@bigq2696
@bigq2696 4 жыл бұрын
Because man is wicked.
@MarieGlen444
@MarieGlen444 11 жыл бұрын
I never thought of that answer! 2 negatives! :)) also answer, why the 2nd resurrection, which is of aLL unbelievers, and all who never heard.. why resurrect if only to perish? or worse? by time these ones hear the words "those not believing will go to the 2nd death" they will have experienced being resurrected, and will have witnessed a very loong day (lesson) of the examination/judgment of aLL human history. After all that, seriously? who's not going to "believe"?? :))
@mrs.bartlett6047
@mrs.bartlett6047 5 жыл бұрын
The resurrection happens first, then the 1,000 yr reign of Christ on earth then the judgement of all men occur
@wiserthanserpents3862
@wiserthanserpents3862 3 жыл бұрын
Anglicans are the only ones who preach Christ RISEN
@TIMMY12181
@TIMMY12181 5 жыл бұрын
Hell was cast in it.
@Okieshowedem
@Okieshowedem 6 жыл бұрын
Father YAHweh is love. Research Hallelu-YAHwehShua on Facebook.
@egomerego
@egomerego 11 жыл бұрын
"whose child are you?" This type of mind messing is not only inappropriate and rude, but contrary to how we are commanded to treat one another. I'm disappointed when I observe 'christians' behaving this way. I love Jesus, cannot wait for His kingdom where we ALL get it and don't quarrel ever again. Indeed the Creator created ALL, the evil one corrupted HIS creation. Cease this wasteful arguing. I do not need a hell fear to convince me and if that's what it takes, where is individual sincerity?
@MarieGlen444
@MarieGlen444 11 жыл бұрын
we're all children of the devil until saved/belief..
@mrs.bartlett6047
@mrs.bartlett6047 5 жыл бұрын
And also ppl that believe they are saved now are in a way judging themselves a little to soon and that's why we're not judges , but God only. 1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts; and then shall every man have praise of God So the ppl that are already condemning and judging others to hell may be judged as unrighteous themselves because sometimes we think our heart is in the right place , but the Bible says our hearts are deceitful too. The seemingly unrighteous to us may be righteous in the eyes of God which is the only one that is able to read the heart.
@outofthecampministries4536
@outofthecampministries4536 5 жыл бұрын
I preach the same and now found your videos! Check mine out! Others know the truth like us!
@peterlee4458
@peterlee4458 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus clearly says in Matthew those who find the way (the narrow gate and narrow road) to life (eternal life) are few; many actually walk on their way to destruction, contradicting what those false teachers claim that all will be saved !
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, Jesus did say the way is narrow that leads to live; it' as narrow as a single person, Jesus, the Savior of the whole world. And it doesn't seem you are on that narrow path yet for you seem to love to condemn people to eternal damnation. You use scriptures to judge and condemn others but do not apply those same harsh Scriptures Jesus spoke to yourself. For example, have you plucked out your right eyes yet or cut off your right hand? For sure a quick survey of your life will reveal lust and covetousness. But you have no intention of cutting off your hand and plucking out your eye, do you Peter. So you judge with double standards and Jesus calls that a hypocrite. Why don't you spend a few months, visit tentmaker.org and take a more careful look at the scriptures. You might discover that you are behaving like the lawyers, scribes, Pharisees and Sadduccees than a humble prayerful saint who puts others higher than themselves instead of judges people you don't even know. "Judge not.....lest...."
@peterlee4458
@peterlee4458 6 жыл бұрын
you are a false teacher; Jesus gave warning to false prophets; I should rebuke such false teachers to make others aware of their deceptive teaching. false teachers are deceived slaves of the devil !
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 6 жыл бұрын
Which brings greater to God the Father? That Jesus saves all He came to save that is all mankind or that He loses most of those He died for? You see it becomes clear who is the false teacher. Who is giving the greater glory to who? Peter says that Satan through lies wins most of mankind. So now we know who is serving satan and who is glorify Jesus, the Savior of the world. You're caught, servant of satan. Now repent and believe the Victorious Gospel of Jesus instead of the sinful traditional bad news of the church.
@peterlee4458
@peterlee4458 6 жыл бұрын
you are a false teacher because what you said contradict what Jesus said; you have been deceived by the devil; Jesus said clearly only a few will find the way to life. you don't believe the words of Christ ! you do the works of anti-Christ. I preach the gospel of Jesus Christ regularly to people in the streets and am aware of the reality that most refuse to believe in Jesus Christ while many choose to worship the idols. according to your false teaching, idol worshipers are also saved by Christ. what a demonic nonsense !
@tentmaker777
@tentmaker777 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, few find the way, but Jesus seeks AND finds the one lost sheep and doesn't give up til HE FINDS IT. Faith comes for Jesus not from man. Salvation is the Lord's, not man's will but God's will. Jesus is the actual savior of the world whether you believe him or not. But obviously, you don't; that makes you a servant of the devil giving greater glory to a devil who wins almost all of mankind while Jesus scarcely saves anyone. Oh, Father, please deliver this poor deluded soul from the false teachings of Satan that make Jesus look like a horrible loser. Deliver Him. Now, my friend, this is a place to leave a comment or two, not a debate forum. If you want to argue with me, go to tentmaker.org and email me on the contact button. Or go into the forum. There are plenty of Christians there who will help straighten out your satanically inspired bad news so that you may truly give glory to the Risen Savior of the whole world, Jesus Christ.
@glennrobinson7193
@glennrobinson7193 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say hell or the lake of fire tormented or scared me, I maybe wrong but I actually think it helped me respect and fear God more. The only problem I see in this belief is your scared of messing up on God. Also it caused me to despise the world seeing them all as idiots who don't respect God nor fear the judgment of God. Now I think I can be a bit more compassionate toward those who don't know the Lord.
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