Leak ALERT: TAG Mistakes With SETS

[@toniweigl9783]

How can one complain about such a nice analysis 👌 Thank you for the Content, James 🙏🙏

[@ThePokerBank]

Cheers Toni!

[@knasttrast7168]

It is especially important to lead out on a board with flush draws, many players will reraise every time when they have nut flush draw or top pair+flush draw. Even if they just call, you need to tax them for seeing the next card.

[@fenikstechnologies1173]

I need to look back at my copy. But I’m pretty sure this is what Doyle said in his Super System decades ago. He likes to lead into raiser when he flops set. Pretty interesting to see how people have either forgotten or never read the book (referencing the comments not the video itself) since it’s ancient history now. And some of it still holds true in modern poker. Great video!

[@anonperson5454]

How would you balance your donk betting range? If you only donk with nuts, won't an astute player pick up on that?

[@ThePokerBank]

If you watch some of my other VLOGs you'll notice that my leading range is not just nuttish hands in these kinds of pots =)

[@guitarfreak80ftw]

It’s crazy how good your videos are. You are way, way better than your views/subs count. Arguably the best analysis on KZbin.

[@ThePokerBank]

Thank you so much Kyle!

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Another problem I didn't hear mentioned here is that people at these stakes are so passive. I think it might be easier to convince some of these people to allow you to pull a tooth with pliers than it would be to get them to put money in the pot.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

If you're balancing here also and say... donk leading with a NFD and get raised, are you re-popping/getting it in now or just calling? In this specific spot for instance.

[@kineahora8736]

Love the lead. It’s multi-way, which is very likely to be checked behind by preflop raiser.

[@andywatson3]

Quick question- why the $15 lead? You're OOP multiway and giving any flush (or straight) draws correct odds to profitably call. I'm going to watch again a few times to fully understand the lead decision, but I think I would definitely make it more- say $25 as I still think all jacks call for that price at least once, and the flush draws are no longer getting the correct price to call. All the best.

[@StreetSoulLover]

Players at 1/2 look at the absolute value of the bet and not as a proportion of the pot - at 1/2 players seem to get overly nitty if you bet over $20, I have no idea why $20 is the magic number, it just is. Additionally players can be quite nitty multi-way spots, we want to keep them in at all costs. It's completely unbalanced but hey, you think these players think about balance?

[@ThePokerBank]

While $15 does give their draws a great price, it also allows them to continue with plenty of other second-best hands (6x, case 7x, 88-TT, gutshots, etc.) too. Try not to get overly-focused on draws on the flop imo.

[@andywatson3]

@@ThePokerBank Thankyou for the considered reply, but that's exactly the point though- I'm not focused on just the draws. I'm extracting an extra $10 from every hand that wants to play. You don't see an average 1/2 player flop top pair to fold to a single bet- even multiway- even with a mediocre kicker. Assuming your game is anything like here in the UK, that $25 bet will be called by ALL jacks, all flush draws, all straight draws. All these hands pay $10 extra for the privilege of seeing the turn. Even 88/99/TT will be tempted to call (player dependent) since there's only a single overcard (I'm not saying that's a good play- just that they are tempted). So you (might) get a crying $15 from 88-TT (18 combos), but I get (an extra) $10 from AJ,KJ,QJ,JTs,J9s, J8s, 76s, 45s, 89s and possibly TT, 99, 88- what's that? Something like 55 combos? Many of which will be prepared to call another, bigger bet on the turn if it's the 2c. At the same time I'm forcing all those flush draws to either make a mistake in calling without the right odds (most do) or give up their equity- so that's also a win/win. Taking this idea further, let's flip it. If you think a $25 bet here causes psychological trauma and folds out just about everything then the most profitable tip you can actually give us here is "if you miss your set (9/10 times), simply donk bet $25- which needs to work only 5/8 of the time and you will insta profit massively as almost everything gets folded". I like your donk bet idea on a board here where the possibility of it checking round are high, but I think you are still underestimating the weak stickiness of these players (at least as a generic pool- maybe not with the specific players you were playing against). I make the vast amount of my low limit live profits by simply shovelling money into the pot when I think I have the best hand. It's not pretty, but it works. All the best

[@H1ghL1ghT1]

If you put more in the pot it becomes more profitable to raise you. I mean NFDs. In multiway spots, solvers suggest betting smaller as you achieve more with the same betsize. There is always the fear that someone behind raises. One caller for 25 would give any fd IP again good odds. You can not protect against hands that strong like FDs or OESDs. You would need to overbet, which, in turn, comes with its own issues.

[@andywatson3]

@@H1ghL1ghT1 Couple of issues with your answer. I think you're applying concepts and levels not really being played at these stakes. As a default exploit, you can more or less assume any raise here is value- although obviously this isn't the case for everyone at these stakes. The biggest point you seem to be missing is- WE HAVE A SET! I'm delighted if I get raised here (although I would be slightly wary of JJ for the reason above). The issue is there aren't really many value hands they can raise with- so a raise would be exceptionally rare here. As James pointed out above- we're not just thinking about draws, but also getting more value from their perceived strong hands that we actually have crushed. Appreciate your thoughts though. All the best.

[@fhd3715]

I think checking or leading in this spot both have some advantages and disadvantages. With UTG limpers you can definitely not go wrong by leading her, but against human solvers I don't think it is the best idea.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

This is 1/ 2 ain't nobody solving anything.

[@Ender0999]

I usually make this "mistake". I usually let the pre flop aggressor lead, so I usually just check to them then call whatever they bet. Thinking about your approach to leading or "donk betting" I think it has a lot of merit. It serves to sort of disguise the strength of your hand. If you lead out they think "he's just trying to buy the pot on the cheap" or "He's got a piece of the flop and I have overs to the flop". I seriously doubt that low stakes players consider that you'd play a set like this. Most of the advice I see online says if you see a player raise pre but just call post all the way to the river-- you can count on it that you are up against a set. Really nice way to take advantage of that kind of a hand! Thanks!!

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Up the aggression. Play aggressive, especially at a passive table.

[@justinbyrge8997]

I like donk betting here but in order for it to be effective I think you need to donk be other hands in similar spots to keep yourself balanced, like some draws

[@jeffshackleford3152]

Yes, but that also goes in the some of your best hands category. Like if he had AdKd, I would definitely be leading here. People are way too passive in these games, I do not trust them to put money in the pot, especially if you let them take the passive option.

[@pokergeniusordonkey6517]

I agree on all points. It's a good reminder about when to donk bet for value, and hopefully lots of extra value. Small observation about having the 7 of diamonds. There could be very few hands that will c-bet this board.

[@ThePokerBank]

Nicely said!

[@marksolomon3918]

On that board, leading is fine. It's connected. 4 way. No question. You lead out. Not big enough to chase them away. 2/3 pot. Someone caught something.

[@djh9477]

When would you consider "defending" the set against a flush draw? Or is it an ill-conceived idea?

[@monang921]

Thanks for your videos I enjoyed a lot watching them! Very good analysis and really educational as well. Keep it up!!

[@ThePokerBank]

Cheers Noma!

[@bartsupino813]

If you are pretty sure the player to your left will flat at the same time you are expecting the next in action to raise why wouldn't a larger open be better on a two draw board straight and flush?

[@paulchez5102]

Great information. I will def try this next outing.

[@ThePokerBank]

GLGL Paul!

[@nat2r]

It's funny, years ago I led middle set multiway, and ended up getting stacked by the RFI who flopped top set. I posted to the RCP forums and the consensus was that I shouldn't be leading. Times change I guess.

[@alexgould4625]

Depends on the board texture and table configuration

[@nat2r]

@@alexgould4625 dry board of course. Had like 66 on T6X. Villain had TT.

[@ThePokerBank]

Times do change =)

[@b0bbyKashmoney]

Top set vs mid set is what, like 3 combos in villains range? I think people could get overly aggressive with the 24 combos of AA, KK, QQ, & JJ (not to mention AT I guess.) but you’re asking about donking and I guess the risk is you blow your opponent off a missed hand on a dry board. (Btw I think stacking off with middle set vs top set is a cooler slice of an otherwise +ev pie)

[@nat2r]

@@b0bbyKashmoney the funny part is I bet big on the turn and he piled over me and I just knew he had top set. I even said it out loud. The kid was just playing so well and I just knew he wasn't doing it with an overpair. Oh well. Called, lost, reload. Definitely a cooler. These days I probably don't bet as big on the turn.

[@Tico5907]

Do you ever have any bluffs in this situation, or just exploitatively leading with your nut hands?

[@ThePokerBank]

Some draws too, but it's mostly exploitative

[@jack42011]

ok, so the donk bet is best on a mid board that the OR might check back multi way. what would ya do if the board was more AJ 7 or such? would that be a check raise? Now the bet sizing, I would probably bet more because of charging all the draws, and there are quite a few... worked out well this time but does the OR ever not raise your donk?? what was your read on him? reg, pro, whale, button clicker? I am ALWAYS wary of a donk on a board like that

[@exist0142]

This is super interesting! I'm thinking about how you'd balance this lead but on a board like this it'd make sense to bet some Jx and some semi-bluffs, both of which can benefit a good amount from a bet like this. Hand protection in the case of Jx in a multiway pot is great, and taking betting initiative with semi-bluffs is great as well. Really liking this, will have to try it out!

[@ThePokerBank]

Cheers! And an important first question should always be "is balance necessary here?" fwiw

[@exist0142]

@@ThePokerBank It's definitely less important since it's multi-way and everyone has so many other players to worry about. I think it's always good to be unexploitable though, at least from the theory standpoint. In the case of this play our checking range definitely becomes a lot weaker, but again multi-way it's not a big deal.

[@jacobm3461]

What are you using to balance your donk range? What're you donking except hands like sets. Are you only donking limped pots or would you also donk into a PFR?

[@hairycanary5912]

Ha, balancing? His example is from a very low stakes game bro. Balancing not only unnecessary, but most likely negative EV.

[@jacobm3461]

@@hairycanary5912 Only leading the effective nuts would be the negative EV play because you'll fold out any decent hands. Obviously it'll depend on your opponents, but in my experience limpers tend to fold too frequently and not call too frequently.

[@qazzaqstan]

@@hairycanary5912 honestly you can probably donk lead most of your really good draws here too especially if you think the PFR won't raise you enough. Your best draws should have more than 33% equity against the field so the scenario where you get called by the UTG limper and HJ should still be +EV.

[@ThePokerBank]

I lead a lot of non-nut hands too (check other VLOG episodes for more examples)

[@jacobm3461]

@@ThePokerBank Thanks for the response! Love the videos.

[@gazorpazorp9798]

35% donk bet. I approve. Used to always check here but now I lead small all the time.

[@ThePokerBank]

Nice!

[@francescoiadicicco1266]

"Always bet your sets" - Jungleman

[@b0bbyKashmoney]

Love your vids split|suit, the vlogs are super fun to watch and informative. Wondering about a couple things. Is your line usually check/call on the turn given the action? (I.e donk leading the turn after the flop call gives the opp a chance to play perfect with value and bluffs) Also, do you count suited combos while playing on flush draw or monotone boards? Thank you!

[@ThePokerBank]

Cheers Bobbac! 1. Yes, usually. Younger and more aggro players typically can't help themselves from bombing the turn once the pot is this bloated. 2. Yes, I keep a rough count in my head. It gets easier with practice =)

[@mothecat776]

Hey SplitSuit. When the Villain goes all in, WHY? do you NOT want to see what he has. Maybe his exact holding is instructive to future hands that session or instructive in general????? (even if he is bluffing....)

[@ThePokerBank]

It typically slows up the game and is considered fairly bad etiquette in a live game. It's totally in my right to see his hand, and while I'd like the info, I'd rather just keep things moving along.

[@nicknevler8778]

What do you think about just leading fot like 30 to 35 just to tatget jx and draws the most right away, vs the 15 size

[@2cardarsenal310]

Definitely leading out 4 ways to a flop with flush draw on the board. Not to mention you will get AJ, KJ, QJ, AK to tag along or they might even raise here. I might pop the guy who raised to $55 to like $155 to get value and if he is on a big draw he might even shove. Nice video!

[@ThePokerBank]

Cheers!

[@MusicalSawMen]

If you are a tag/rock who never donk bet, you give away to much info by donkbeting, and check is definitely the best play ! If you are a balanced player then you are right !

[@noex100]

There are enough semi-bluff hands to balance here: 89d, 54d, 78, etc. Sometimes nut flush draws but I'd probably check-call with those.

[@just4meification]

Total agree with the donk but would you still donk if it was heads up?

[@ThePokerBank]

Depends on the XR dynamic I have with villain, but I would certainly consider donking =)

[@thewrongaccount608]

Is TAG still the best way to play small cash games? I've a local one that is 1/3.

[@ThePokerBank]

If the game is super splashy, TAG is just fine =)

[@thewrongaccount608]

@@ThePokerBank what if it is not? And players actually seem to be on the passive side?

[@ThePokerBank]

@@thewrongaccount608 then LAG all day while being very careful on rivers to not fall into their traps.

[@vamoneygroup]

I love the lead. Check raise is too strong. Letting someone else lead with just top pair will not guarantee big bet sizing.

[@ThePokerBank]

🚀

[@Mannypokeer]

i would lead 75% of the pot in small steak 90% of the players are fish and we know that folding is boring for a fish they will call wit third pair second pair top top over cars fush draw gutshots ect. also is a multiway pot is more likely someone has a pair or a draw 👍🏻👍🏻

[@maxshea4183]

Would you ever donk a spot like this heads up or is it only applicable multi way?

[@ThePokerBank]

HU is certainly an option, yes

[@paulhamilton5420]

So what input do you have on 2/5 oop with hands like A Q / AJ off suit in the small blind . What should be my 4 bet frequency be....

[@ThePokerBank]

Very dependent on 827 variables. I would suggest posting a hand or two in the Discord for more specific conversation =) redchippoker.com/discord

[@zhawkflew7686]

I would never bet so small. Either, x/r, or blast it: flop overbet $45 bet.

[@H1ghL1ghT1]

What Other hands you are also want to lead? Which draws? NFDs? It would work in many easy games, that said I feel unsafe of splitting my range as my flopchecks would become meaningful weak(er). Do you ever CR flop in such spots?

[@ThePokerBank]

Which exact player is going to exploit your range splitting? Exactly how are they going to exploit you? (These are food for thought questions for you, no need to answer me here)

[@robrever]

You could forego all of this analysis by just 3 Betting this Pre-flop. No need to get all fancy. Look up top 10% NLHE, 77 is one of those hands. Slam dunk 3 bet pre flop.

[@ThePokerBank]

It's most certainly not a "slam dunk 3! preflop". FWIW, the solver only likes around a 4-5% 3! range here with 77 being a rare mix 3!

[@robrever]

Solvers are a great tool for validating almost any play. But if you're not 3 betting at least the top 10% of your range for value you are exploitable and and you're leaving money on the table. Also, I don't think anything the solver says is applicable in a 1-2 live cash game. You’re basically playing bingo and that table.

[@ThePokerBank]

@@robrever 3betting 10%+ in all positions vs. all positions will set money on fire in the long run

[@voncameron2442]

i think i'd open with about half pot or slightly more. ($20 -$25)

[@qazzaqstan]

While it doesn't make sense here given the stack depth and turn card, would you consider donking a 2nd time if the turn were an over card and SPR was 2 rather than .75?

[@ThePokerBank]

I would likely check in that hypothetical and let their bluffs keep firing away

[@qazzaqstan]

@@ThePokerBank thanks

[@leevincent4898]

Would you play your draw by leading here in a 4-way pot?

[@ThePokerBank]

Some of them, yes.

[@CLGilbert]

What's your opinion on the villains play?

[@ThePokerBank]

Tough to say without seeing exactly what he had tbh.

[@conradsnowman]

I feel like you want to mix in more check raises when playing online. I don’t see someone calling an all in here online as much

[@ThePokerBank]

More XR bluffs then?

[@conradsnowman]

@@ThePokerBank Agree, on the same note I find bluffs are more likely to be called live. Especially smaller value looking bluffs.

[@jasonisfamous6544]

Why did people think that batting into the aggressor is a bad idea I know used to but now it's not? 6 months ago i got called donk better all the time now that pros are using it its ok? Lol

[@modeob88]

Amazaing like always ! Thanks !

[@ThePokerBank]

Cheers Modesto!

[@thierryfallingstar]

thx James.

[@ThePokerBank]

You're very welcome!

[@tasoslefth8375]

by betting your strongest hands you dont protect your checking range

[@ThePokerBank]

Correct, but when EXACTLY is it important to protect your checking range? Is this situation one of those times?

[@ArturioR]

Why not 3bet preflop? More in the pot should you hit?

[@ArturioR]

Take it down right away?

[@ThePokerBank]

It's a little too weak imo. And fwiw, the "More in the pot should you hit?" logic could apply to all hands, so it's not really a factor, though your "Take it down right away?" is certainly something to consider =)

[@tim314]

I would bet because I would expect any Jx to continue

[@ThePokerBank]

I would expect that too

[@w4nted532]

I’ve been watching a lot of your videos trying to learn how to play good poker, would it be a problem to bet higher, say 25 after the flop to push out some of the diamond hands here that have flush draws because I don’t know if you agree but for a cheap preflop price I could see quite a few people playing suited connectors or even 1 gappers that if that diamond hits will cause us lots of problems

[@ThePokerBank]

How many FD combos exist compared to single pair combos in their ranges (especially with the J, 7, and 6 visible to us)?

[@b0bbyKashmoney]

Dude I’m wondering the same thing. I’m always overly scared of flushes, hoping SS has some insight on counting suited combos and the effect on post-flop decisions

[@b0bbyKashmoney]

Oh wow, that was fast!! Taking a crack at this: AQs, ATs, A9s, QTs, KQs, T9s….54s? Maybe 6 combos with a tight-ish HJ pfr range If we start including A8s, A5s, A4s, 54s, etc then we gotta add 3 non-FD combos for each FD combo I think. It seems like FD’s aren’t a huge risk but what about when we face aggression?

[@w4nted532]

@@b0bbyKashmoney i am not a seasoned poker player i started playing about a month ago and have been obsessed since i started so take my thoughts with a grain of salt and feel free to correct me, that being said, why wouldnt you also consider the small blind, because they are still in before we bet, i understand that they folded anyway but surely they should come into consideration as they have checked in the dark after calling a preflop raise and are still in the hand, i know this time they folded but surely they should be factored in too and if thats the case then doesnt the range widen, with regards to 54s personally i would definitely see them wanting to play this flop against a bet of 15 and maybe and looser players maybe even 25 because with an open ender and a flush draw they have a lot of outs, if we remove the 3 betting hand AKs from their range then i could see them playing AQs, KQs, ATs, A9s, A8s, A5s,A4s, A3s, A2s, KTs, QTs, T9s, 98s and 54s so about 14 hands

[@b0bbyKashmoney]

@@w4nted532 dang tbh i didn't think about the SB, had to watch the vid again to see if there's something i missed. btw, welcome to poker! awesome that you're thinking about the game on this level already. I've been playing poker for about 10 years, most of which I spent doing so badly i.e. focusing on limited elements of the game like only considering my own hand strength, outs, and equity -- rather than considering position, my opponent(s) ranges, tendencies, perceptions of my hand strength (or range if they're more advanced), and "funneling" the combinations of hands they could have based on all of the above. so you're definitely ahead of me by YEARS if you're already thinking about all this stuff. a couple things to consider with the SB is their stack (~150 BB in likely a 100 BB max buy), their flat pre-flop (as you pointed out, allows us to significantly underweight the top end of their range like AKs), and their fold to the flop 3 bet from HJ. While the fold gives us a break on having to piece together their range. we can still evaluate the relative equity of some of their plausible, although uncommon, high-equity drawing hands like 10d9d, 9d8d, and 5d4d to see how our set fares against them. The first has 13 outs going to the turn, the latter two have 16 outs to the turn. That's a lot of equity! About 26% and 32% of turning a flush or straight. Nonetheless, even when they do hit the turn, we block the straight-flush, have 9 outs to a full house, and 1 out to quads, leaving us with 20% equity even when we're behind a flush or straight. If our donk is only called by SB and their range is super weighted towards these kinds of hands, we can always fall back on pot odds math if we face a bet from SB on turn (i guess i'd probably just call most turns and rivers if they lead *when the flush comes in*.) But yeah, we're talking about a really narrow portion of their value range. Anyway, just downloaded flopzilla, gonna try to plug SB's full range in there once i get it registered so i can stop talking outta my you-know-what and get the real math behind the situation

[@brentsenior7830]

Lol I'm in a mtt on pstars in the big blind and scrolling through KZbin and I see this video lol what are the odds

[@ThePokerBank]

Do you really want me to run that math? 😜

[@brentsenior7830]

@@ThePokerBank no need to I got second outta 1500 in that tourney on pstars for 600!! Your videos have helped thanks!!

[@d4ba19]

so what i learned this vid was to vpip the nuts...where do I sign up for more? xD

[@ThePokerBank]

And don't forget the second nuts too!

[@michaleonczuk3797]

"still pocket 77" - haha, nice joke

[@koreanpuppylol]

Your check raise range is gonna be so weak lol. I mean I don’t do this because it’s just theoretically horrendous and maybe it does make slightly more money but I don’t wanna be playing 1/2 for the rest of my life…

[@ThePokerBank]

Without looking, how often do you think the solver has you XRing here? And why do you assume I have zero strategic modification when playing my normal stakes?

[@chrisellis3814]

I self-identify as a TAG, and I can't imagine NOT leading out a set on a draw-heavy board like that. Maybe I misunderstand TAGgishness.

[@ThePokerBank]

But is your leading range exclusively sets?

[@chrisellis3814]

@@ThePokerBank I would likely lead any hand I believed needed protection from the straight and flush draw possibilities catching up, i.e. two pair or pocket overpair.

[@krahn23]

That’s a good question. What other hands should be in the leading range to balance against people who are paying attention?

[@derCrowsen]

@@ThePokerBank I would lead FDraws,TPair and Better here. But is 15 in a 40 pot a little small ?

[@icebankmiceelf5120]

Aye that’s my local poker room

[@ThePokerBank]

I don't remember seeing Obama there whenever I play...

[@icebankmiceelf5120]

@@ThePokerBank haha I play there often I’ve never seen you there though

[@malazuth3306]

I see the same leak again, you give your opponent information for free. You call and insta show your hand, when your opponent mucks again being the raiser. I can't imagine why the hell you show your hand before the raiser, if he wanna muck ok, don't show the set But giving the information of you leading with a set is valuable, and it should not be free for the opponents. I'm not saying you force to show your opponent AFTER knowing you win, i mean when you call, he can show, o he can mucks in the river, but you should wait to see if he muck before revealing your hand Not saying you're not a great player, wich of course you're! I just think that it's a leak you're making and it's easy to fix Best regards!

[@ThePokerBank]

I understand where you're coming from Dario. That said, have you seen how this plays out at a live table when hero waits for villain to show? Typically either the game slows down massively and/or it looks like you're slowrolling - neither is great overall imo.

[@malazuth3306]

@@ThePokerBank I don't play a lot live, but what i would do it's just ask when calling and BEFORE showing/saying anything "Ok.. i call, what do you have?" He's the raiser, if you call and keep facedown your cards, what he's gonna do? looking you in the eyes for 5 minutes? If you show your cards and ask him to do the same it's when problems / bad etiquette may showup, but i can't see the problem with "I call, what do you have?" Or "I call.. flushdraw?" If the secuence was "check-check, check-check, check-bet" you call he mucks, ok he had a random bluff But bet-raise. check-shove? Man i see real value in see villain range for the future

[@teaadvice4996]

What is a tag

[@davidbettinger9665]

Tight aggressive player

[@teaadvice4996]

@@davidbettinger9665 thx

[@ronbondie9502]

Gr8t content

[@tomohawk52]

Why are you betting only 15 when the flop is this co-ordinated?

[@ThePokerBank]

What size do you like better and why?

[@tomohawk52]

@@ThePokerBank 25-30 into a 40 dollar pot. I expect callers to be fairly inelastic. Still get called by most Js, all 2p, flush draws, and OESD. The only hands I think you are getting to call with 15 instead of say 25-30 are 88-TT, 7x, and some (all?) gutshots. Unless you know something about these specific players? I want the made hands to put in money now before a card comes that kills the action, and I want the draws to pay more up front since they won't pay anything on the river if they don't hit.

[@littleinkling4604]

I don't play cash, just tourny. Shouldn't you wait for him to show his cards first for info?

[@michaelsviews9851]

Caller shows

[@qazzaqstan]

@@michaelsviews9851 I just assumed it was either because he was OoP and there is no aggression on the river or because he opted to show before the cards were dealt after the all-in which he did not have to and his opponent opted not to.

[@littleinkling4604]

@@michaelsviews9851 Caller shows first???

[@ThePokerBank]

Technically speaking, yes. In practice, typically not because it massively slows the game up and is sort of bad etiquette in a live game

[@malazuth3306]

@@ThePokerBank you keep saying is bad etiquette, the only bad etiquette it's to be called and not showing the hand when the caller does. He's the one slowing the game, he's the one that should insta-show his hand when you call, and you're the one who can muck even after he shows. Your opponents are the ones with bad etiquette and slowing the game, imo letting they keeping that behavior it's not helping anyone

[@danielhenry6777]

I am too dumb to be good at poker

[@ThePokerBank]

You only need to be a bit smarter than your opponents 😜

[@danielhenry6777]

@@ThePokerBank I tried to do your preflip workbook but was too complicated in the middle if the book

[@CarlosMunoz-ml1rq]

Thanks for the videos. Have you consider translating your videos to Spanish? You’ll have 0 competition because the videos I have seen are weak on analysis, especially mathematical analysis. 80% of my poker friends don’t speak it and when I send them a video I’m always translating it to them. It’s a language spoken by 500+ million people

[@ThePokerBank]

Like a dub, or just a CC for Spanish?

[@CarlosMunoz-ml1rq]

@@ThePokerBank i think a dub would be perfect for your channel but at the end it’s your decision…

[@ThePokerBank]

@@CarlosMunoz-ml1rq do you watch a lot of dubbed content? I've always found dubs awkward (and they are quite expensive to do decently well ime)

[@CarlosMunoz-ml1rq]

@@ThePokerBank yes I thought about that specially if it’s the videos you show your face it’s like watching a movie in another language. The next time you do a short video not showing your face I could do the translation for free and you see the responses

[@relocyo55]

TF is a TAG….?

[@michaelsviews9851]

Tight Aggressive lol

[@relocyo55]

@@michaelsviews9851 you kids these days I swear… 😂🤣

[@ThePokerBank]

lol, didn't you start your comment with "TF"?

[@relocyo55]

@@ThePokerBank ha! Observant as always I see...