Learning to Accept Change Within 'Doctor Who'

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[@DBSG1976]

On paper, the Jon Pertwee Era should have been "boring". The Doctor exiled to Earth with no travel in the Tardis at all. This could not be further from the truth. As it was stated in the video, that era gave us some of the finest Doctor Who stories ever! Spearhead from Space, Ambassadors of Death, Mind of Evil, The Daemons, Day of the Daleks....incredible stories that featured an incredible employer for the Doctor, UNIT! I'm giving this new Doctor a chance. She is a proven actress, the plot can explain her new gender if done properly, and we may see some legendary stories.

[@TheCNYMike]

If the internet had existed back then, what would have said about Pertwee? Or how about when Sarah Jane Smith, a single journalist who gave the Doctor lip, was introduced? Everything old is new again in more ways than one.

[@etanaedelman9011]

The Pertwee era isn't really my favorite, but it's very existence is what I love about the show. The fact that they could just completely drop the entire premise of the show for about 3 seasons and somehow become even more popular is such a testament to the show's versatility. Even during its cancellation the show managed to keep itself alive through an Expanded Universe to rival Star Wars. I like to think of Doctor Who as the David Bowie of TV shows; constantly reinventing itself, sometimes succeeding and sometimes failing, but never staying in one place for too long.

[@DBSG1976]

Etana Edelman You bring up a very interesting point. You mentioned how the show was constantly reinventing itself. I consider the Pertwee/early Tom Baker eras to be high points of the original run, while seeing the John Nathan Turner "style over substance" era as a low point (you spoke about the show reinventing itself, this was one that didn't work). Don't get me wrong, even the JNT era had some classics (I love Revelation of the Daleks) and my favorite Doctor, Sylvester McCoy, emerged amongst some very weak stories that ensured the end of the original series. In retrospect, the break of 16 years did the show good. The reinvention we saw in 2005 was a definite upgrade and thankfully the "soul" of the original show remained. You got to the heart of the matter, reinventing itself is what kept Doctor Who going for so long. What will the latest version have in store and will this new Doctor be embraced?

[@etanaedelman9011]

I honestly think that one of the JNT era's biggest problems was that (up until the last few seasons) it didn't really try to change. It became all about continuity porn and started trying to pander only to fans instead of the broad audience the show was originally intended or. But Doctor Who doesn't really have continuity because it was created during an era where the concept of "canon" didn't exist in regards to tv shows. There was no home video so you couldn't go back and check on whether one story contradicted the other. And the original writers clearly didn't care about continuity either.

[@DBSG1976]

Etana Edelman I still don't know how Timelash, Time and the Rani, Delta and the Bannermen, and Silver Nemesis scripts were approved, let alone put into production. With stories like Earthshock, The Caves of Androzani, Revelation of the Daleks, Paradise Towers, and The Happiness Patrol you'd think the bad ones would have looked even worse to JNT. I swear Delta and the Bannermen is a parody story and we weren't told. I think your argument is definitely justified, look at Attack of the Cybermen alone, it's steeped in back story.

[@graymondwhenriksen2907]

"coal hill" is the same school in which Clara was suddenly a teacher in season 8 and onwards. It is also a show that not unlike the doctor, remembers and points out the good and bad memories/relationships/events/traditions and so on. :)

[@stcrussman]

5 downvotes, 4 minutes after upload, on a 15 minute video. Congrats Quinton, you're a real youtuber.

[@RandomGamerCory]

honestly...most people dont give a shit if theirs a female doctor...the people trying to stir up outrage are the ones who care

[@VieneLea]

I'm mad he's talking about some obscure foreign show that's only popular amongst wasps having the next character being different from the previous ones. Oh and she's also a woman. Only Americans with their disgusting rape culture (I learned about it from their own media, so it's real, don't deny it) are stupid enough to make misogynistic drama about it, so making videos on it is a waste of time.

[@src175]

VieneLea My God, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Either way, bravo.

[@MrBenMcLean]

Explain why I should bother to watch this. Or Doctor Who either. I quit watching after the decision last season to preach sodomy at us.

[@SarcyBoi41]

Benjamin McLean There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. If you don't like it, go live in Saudi Arabia.

[@Ashingan]

gallifrey is my city

[@Freashplayer]

You idiot! Gallifrey is town, not a city.

[@Ashingan]

LUL

[@superhams9249]

when you dont hang out on the internet that often...

[@RandomFunGenerator]

and if it weren't for the The Doctor then the Earth would be shitty

[@aselfawareidiot853]

Super Hams its a joke

[@lucifersam01]

... "this Doctor is best Doctor !" *Doctor dies and regenerates* "No ! What have they done ! He was my favorites Doctor !" *New Doctor first episodes* "I hate this one ! The old one was much better !" *proceeding further in the series with new Doctor* ... *Repeat cycle*

[@MaskedMan66]

Except that is not how it goes.

[@MaskedMan66]

+unknow -n Not with the vets.

[@MaskedMan66]

+unknow -n Veterans; people who have known the show since the classic series.

[@christopheralthouse6378]

@@MaskedMan66 Ummm, veteran fan here, first DOCTORS were Tom Baker AND Peter Davidson...annnd...ummm, NOPE...haven't abandoned the series, not mad at Jodie Whittaker's casting, LOVE Graham's character (he's a trip and I keep tuning in just to see him keep being adorable! 😂)...not seeing a problem, not mad at Chibnall, don't feel it's a perfect series but no series/season ever is or has been... Yeah...soooo...why am I supposed to hate it? Because a woman was cast as The Doctor? Seems a stupid reason to hate the show if you ask me...

[@MaskedMan66]

+Christopher Althouse Davison, not Davidson. And I said nothing about hating the show or abandoning it or anything you mentioned. I was refuting the OP's alleged pattern-- which too many NuWhovians tout-- of "think current Doctor is the best, hate newcomer, love newcomer, think current Doctor is the best, hate newcomer, love newcomer, rinse, repeat." As a vet yourself, you'll no doubt remember that there was never any such pattern in the classic era. Of course we regretted seeing the incumbent Doctor leaving, but we always welcomed the successor right willingly. And once we'd decided on a favorite, we pretty much stuck with that one, even if we loved the new one.

[@gabrielpatterson1249]

Now that I've watched this, I want to get my hands on the older Doctor stuff. I have a lot of friends who love Doctor who but never talk about the older stuff and frankly it looks absolutely wonderful.

[@gizmofrompizmo2177]

It's good stuff. You have to appreciate the pacing of the classic stuff or at least put up with it but I'm thoroughly enjoying the old stuff.

[@TentacularTaku]

Anyone else who thought Peter Capaldi was a spectacular Doctor?

[@steller7515]

I certainly did.

[@iceoriental123]

I will never forget to click below to subscribe to the official Doctor Who KZbin Channel.

[@troodon1096]

I don't think he was the best, but I think he was really good. There's been multiple episodes of Dr Who I haven't liked, but there's never been an episode or story I didn't like where I thought the actor playing the doctor was the problem.

[@tomkenning5482]

I do, but I think he deserved better than the writing he got

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

No

[@ApocalypticRenegade]

I do think the Doctor Who female casting perfectly showed my problem with most fanbases, they made a change that was a genuine shock and really could make for a more interesting take and everybody bitched and moaned about it. It's like when a character gets killed off then brought back straight away because every fan throws the toys out of the pram, it's ridiculous imo.

[@gizmofrompizmo2177]

It's just a subset of a subset who post on the internet. Most people are either fine or excited by the change. It's just certain people are louder than other people.

[@ericmanget4280]

@@gizmofrompizmo2177 Or they were smart enough to see it for what it was and what it came to be.

[@adammarch9604]

It's not a matter of smarts. Sometimes the smartest people are the biggest jerks.

[@peterwilliamskelhorn6675]

@@gizmofrompizmo2177 I've had no problem with Jodie as the doctor since she got announced as the 13th Doctor. They've had time ladies on Doctor Who like Susan Foreman. The 2 Romana's The Rani. And River Song and Missy

[@joelsytairo6338]

Hey guys it’s 2021 midway through season 13 (randomly titled “doctor who FLUX”). Last series with Whitaker as the Doctor and Chibs as show runner. In a shocking turn of events, the BBC has officially announced the return of Russel T Davies as show runner. Now to see if my comment will travel back in time.

[@plantainsame2049]

Yep and he's a hack he always was but he's gotten even worse and really I don't think he should be allowed back considering the horror stories you hear of his first run

[@ketmaniac]

I hated the second half of The Unearthly Child. I watched in 1963, and after the first ten minutes I knew it was my favourite show ever, ever, ever. But then when I saw what they did with the second half I wept with rage. Why do they have to ruin everything? Why couldn't the second half have been just like the first half? It's been 53 years and I still haven't got over it. Typical BBC. Why can't the BBC be like it used to be? I listened to the first radio broadcast in 1922 where Dame Clara Butt sang "Oh, for the Wings of a Dove" and sounded like she was singing in the bathroom next door while sausages fried noisily on a hot plate just in front of your face. I was looking forward to more quality shows like that when the high and mighty BBC decided to stop calling themselves the British Broadcasting Company and switch to the British Broadcasting Corporation. I was so disgusted that I wrote into the Radio Times, informing them that they'd just lost a listener. Why can't the Radio Times be like it used to be, have you seen the way they keep changing the cover, it drives me mad, I've refused to buy it since 1935...

[@tost6956]

lol

[@MaskedMan66]

You obviously think you're making some sort of point, but it doesn't quite work.

[@Flowtail]

MaskedMan66 The point is that people who are upset about change miss the fact that change is constant Seemed pretty obvious to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@LeoGuidi]

Is this meant to be a joke. It’s funny either way

[@dragonslibrary9207]

My good man, you have woosh'd a surprising number of people.

[@DevonPalmer98]

I just hope we get good writing again

[@QuintonReviews]

Series 10 m8 watch it

[@DevonPalmer98]

Quinton Reviews I'll definitely check it out, dropped the series mid series 8

[@DevareayWilliams]

Devon Palmer Season 9 is almost perfect. It's easily Peter Capaldi's best season. I though season 8 was okay, then got really good near the end. Season 9 is amazing, I didn't like season 10 until the episode about the vatican, which is about halfway through.

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Bill is a thousand times better as a companion than goody two-shoes Clara.

[@QuintonReviews]

I'm sorry, but if you've watched five episodes of Peter's show then you can't really judge him at all.

[@Ngamotu83]

The Eleventh Doctor said it best. "We all change when you think about it. We're all different people, all through our lives, and that's okay. That's good. You've got to keep moving, so long as you remember all the people that you used to be."

[@samr6640]

This is a brilliant summation of the simple brilliance of Doctor Who. I find myself dipping into some Davis and thinking, "God this is good, why isn't more recent Who like this?" Then I watch some Capaldi and then I realise that I also like the current era - just in different ways. Obviously NuWho is a bit more consistant in tone than Classic but there is a difference such that I really couldn't say what my absolute favourite period is.

[@FailoReachForge]

Couldn't care less what gender, sexuality, age, height or weight the doctor is. Just as long as it's well written.

[@BenDover-lj7xd]

did anyone ever tell you your a douchbag.

[@Flowtail]

but like wouldnt it be better to tell stories that feature people whose stories don't get told much?...

[@sethleoric2598]

@@BenDover-lj7xd y?

[@usermcskull4713]

Ben Dover you're nice!

[@mv9370]

@@Flowtail Pretty sure the Doctor's story would be told the same m8

[@bluesphere4860]

Me and my dad started watching at Rose, but we planned from early on that when we get caught up with the current airing season, (originally series 9, but later updated to 10), that we would start watching the original series. We finished series 10 this Monday and we plan on watching the original very soon.

[@RantKid]

you're the one guy who I can listen to talk about Dr Who and subsequently not give a shit about Dr Who.

[@JamiJR]

For a brief time in the 1980s Doctor Who was aired on PBS. So my first Doctor was the 4th Doctor, while my second Doctor was the 3rd. Like River Song I keep "meeting" the Doctor out of order. I love all the Doctors, though obviously 4 will always be my favorite for sentimental reasons. 12 came very close to nudging him out though because Peter has such obvious love for the series and brought back lots of nostalgic feels - and may everyone who whined he was "too old" to be The Doctor kiss my fat butt right after I eat some Taco Bell. I have to honestly said Jodie right now is tied neck and neck with Peter. It helps that the writing so far has been WAY better than that of 12's era. (Let's be honest, Kill The Moon was just stupid.) Graham is my 2nd favorite companion after Sarah Jane. It's nice to have an older companion again and not just some young hot chick to serve as a love interest. I like Yaz and Ryan too, but I have a soft spot for Graham, especially as he tries to deal with his grief while also offering support and love for the grandson who refuses to accept him as a grandfather just yet because they're not related by blood. It is funny how a show about change has the most stuck in the mud "Everything must be this way because I said so" fans. First we had people, even women Peter's own age or older, whining about how "The Doctor is supposed to be young and hot." Now we have them whining "The Doctor has always been a man! He's supposed to be a man!" And not just sexist men, but women too. We have those idiots saying, "Now little boys have no hero to look up to." As a little girl all my heroes were men - Mr. Spock, The Lone Ranger, Zorro, Sherlock Holmes (Jeremy Brett is the BEST Holmes, hands down!), and yes, The Doctor. If a girl can have men for heroes, why can't a boy have women for heroes? And anyway, in the tv movie with the 8th Doctor the Master was an ectoplasmic snake. The Doctor doesn't even have to regenerate into human life form. The Doctor could've come back this time around as a horse! (That being said, I would very much like an episode where the Doctor's mind is in the body of an Irish Setter and the dog's mind in the body of the Doctor so we can not only have comical things like the "Dogtor" trying to sniff butts/crotches and lick faces - especially if it's an episode that brings back Jack Harkness - but at the end the Doctor can say "At least I was finally ginger!" My only real complaint is they don't bring back enough of the classic villains. Sure, they've got Daleks and Cybermen and the like. But how about The Great Vampires? I know now The Celestial Toymaker is seen as a racist character, but you could still bring back this god-like being and update him. What about the Sensorites? I have a theory that they are the natural predators of Weeping Angels with their telepathy, inability to blink, and fear of the dark - the only place a Weeping Angel can get to them as that's the only time a Sensorite couldn't see them. I know in the last two videos of your's I watched as part of my Quinton Reviews Marathon I typed a LOT and I hope you don't mind. Especially since they're older videos. You just really made me think and when I think the words pour out and need someplace to go.

[@HereComesPopoBawa]

I don't get how people complain that a 60 year-old actor is somehow too old to play a character who is more than 1000 years old, the thought-process boggles me...

[@JamiJR]

@@HereComesPopoBawa From what I gathered about the complaints it was that people felt the Doctor had to be someone who was what society deems to be sexually attractive. Kind of like how if you go to the comments in the Captain Marvel trailer most of them are about how the lead actress just isn't "pretty enough." Nothing about acting ability, just "not pretty enough." What they don't get is that not everyone is attracted to the same thing. To me David and Matt were just goofy looking little boys. The rare time I'm attracted to anyone it's always a man older than me. To me, even though I wouldn't sleep with him even if he wasn't happily married, Peter is 10 times sexier than David is said to be. With Jodie they make excuses about how "the show's too political now" even though it's ALWAYS been political and 13 is saying many of the exact same things the other Doctors did - or "now little boys don't have a hero" - which is bull because little boys have plenty of heroes. But it's really sexism. No matter if it's a man whining about the Doctor having a vagina instead of a penis or a woman bitching and moaning about it. It's still sexism.

[@AndrewChapman]

I love how you used existing material from "The Power of the Daleks" and made it feel as though it existed in its entirety. Of course, I do like the animated reconstructions. Change is part of what makes Doctor Who fun to watch. I'm excited for Jodie Whittaker.

[@AndrewChapman]

Thank you for the heart, Quinton.😊

[@thriftingtonpost]

I'm one of the people who view "those 39 episodes" where you never see the inside of the Tardis as some of the best episodes to ever be created! I've loved the third Doctor best since I first saw him, well after I'd had my introduction to the show with the ninth Doctor during the reboot.

[@julieeverett7442]

I wasnt old enough to watch the beginning of third, I came in 1973 but as soon as I could I did, those three years of Earthbound stories were some of the best in Who history, classic and new!

[@callumwalker1881]

David Tennant was personally my favourite doctor, with tom baker in second, and Peter capaldi in third

[@CyborgCollective]

God I miss Christopher Eccleston, I wish we had had more than one season.

[@justinfrost7970]

You know... when susan signed up for school... I'm gonna just keep it in my brain the her guardian she used to register was John Smith

[@tundra2861]

I haven't even seen a episode of Doctor Who so this doesn't really apply to me but i will watch the video though

[@sethleoric2598]

It's pretty nice, i only saw the Matt Smith one and the Era where the Cybermen looked like they were (and yes technically) were made of cardboard

[@tj5425]

Let's see how fast a quote from Quinton himself gets deleted. "If someone having an opinion not like yours makes you convulse in anger, or send you into a deep rage, planning on what quick zinger to throw out to end the conversation then and there, to make you the universal winner, or if someone bringing up a good point sends you into Terminator scanning mode, trying to find that one attack point where you can swipe in and destroy this person's reputation, PLEASE STOP, and try to act like an adult, for once in your life." - Quinton Reviews

[@MaskedMan66]

I have to laugh at this title. Anyone who's watched DW for any length of time-- especially since the Classic era-- knows change very well indeed. And it's not just the Doctor changing his appearance now and then, but the turnaround in companions and the ongoing stories of some of the featured characters and monsters in the show's history. So Change is inevitable. The thing is that individual changES can be for the better or for the worse.

[@QuintonReviews]

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[@gaslightingsquidward9258]

Quinton Reviews Make me

[@AidanMcQueeny]

Christian Crowell why?

[@rasmust.]

deoder

[@hannibustoogfyrre6074]

Quinton Reviews The show being different isn't what I have a problem with. The problem is clogging it up with all of this Leftist BS! Stopping the show every 10 seconds to remind us what *totally hip, GAY, millennial* Bill is! Or having Doctor intentionally bringing about the "absolute end of capitalism" and acting like that's a good thing! (It isn't) Or having your aliens of the week push feminist BS about "absolute consent". And a female Doctor can actually be a cool idea! See how she manages to be the Doctor when dealing with people from all over human history. But not a feminist Doctor. A man hating idiot who goes around whining about non existent systemic oppression. A black Doctor could also be cool! (Especially if played by Mos Deff) But not some race baiting, BLM crybully! Blaming slavery they never experienced for their own failures, and saying that modern white people are inherently evil and guilty of their ancestors crimes!

[@chapelpluto4484]

Accepting change is one thing. Accepting bad writting, weak story lines, and two dimensional character is how you get series twelve of Doctor Who.

[@QuintonReviews]

Eleven

[@preussischblaujunge]

The change is no problem. The woman is not a problem. In lore it makes sense, time lords can become a different sex. The master became missy and it was great. But that actress didn't make a big empowerment thing out of it. I'll see how the female doctor does and i can like it or not. I do not know yet, depends on the writing and the performance. But the new actress made a big thing out of being the first female doctor. She was the one who made it a thing. I don't give a fuck about her sex or skin color, just don't make a thing of it. I'm open to the new doctor regardless. We'll see. - BTW I've only seen new who, i don't know about the old ones.

[@1Piecer]

I think that is in itself an advertisement for the show, smart if you ask me. Using the "controversial" of the gender war/"equality" that the west have right now.

[@preussischblaujunge]

1Piecer Now i wish i have wrote that in there. Exactly.

[@AL-lh2ht]

Ya we can't be happy or celebrated the fact that this is THE FIRST FEMALE DOCTER that people have been wanting for YEARS. All of us should quietly nod our heads and have no emotion what so ever. Tots not big deal at all.

[@emperorcorning8329]

Doctor Who will likely be perceived by future historians as a priceless analysis of the last 50 years of technlogical and social change.

[@Gladysthehomunculus]

Change is fine as long as the product is still good. Personally, last season really disappointed me with its writing even though the casting of the doctor was very good. I hope it improves but I'm not going to hold my breath - the fact the doctor is a woman now is the least of it's problems (that's even if you consider it a problem - it's not).

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

"Personally, last season really disappointed me with its writing" whaaaaaaat

[@Gladysthehomunculus]

I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter!! It lacked creativity in my opinion which was one of it's biggest issues for a science fiction. For example, the first four episodes have the theme of walls/floors not being solid - after the first episode, 3 of them for things that will eat you. Often it it resorted to monologues that slowed everything down, lacked weight and interest with death used to supplement further for these things. From what I remember episodes were quite predictable but this isn't inherently an issue. Also the series seemed to make a focus on what characters are rather than who they are. It's fine that Bill is gay but I don't understand why it took over so much of the writing when we've had a gay character before that people liked on the merits of their character. Maybe could be an interesting thing for some people, I'm not denying people to watch media with openly gay characters where it comes up a lot, but it seemed forced and at times impede the science fiction of the show. It's not just Bill that you see this happen either. I often turned to see my father who was watching it with me be asleep and myself became distracted because of a combination of these things. Not an issue if you enjoy it, you may disagree with my criticisms too which is also fine, but not for me I guess. Shame because I really liked the show. Production wise from what I've seen it's been very good so no issues there.

[@christianb3093]

I totally agree. I nearly stopped watching because the writing was so unbelievably bad. Good news is there's a new writer, Chris Chibnall, who was a writer for Broadchurch (which is great).

[@QuintonReviews]

bah, total nonsense.

[@Gladysthehomunculus]

Quinton Reviews fair dooes. No one is inclined to agree on interpretation of art and, irrespective of whether I personally enjoyed it or not, I'm glad that people get such enjoyment from the new episodes of the show. Always interested in hearing how others see it and maybe I'll revisit this series. Great videos as always Quinton.

[@howilovedthebomb]

My dad started when he was small in the early 1970's and he's pretty much enjoyed every single doctor since because he loves the show.

[@mainahgruau6631]

Actually ; when I convinced my friends to watch doctor who , they genuinly thought that "the pilot" was the actual pilot of the show.

[@BorgusBingo]

your videos are always on point man

[@TheMammalizerOLD]

As long as the actor is good and the writing it's good i don't care

[@TheMindofRa]

The Mammalizer pretty much what everyone has been saying... hell even the likes of Sargon said as much. There is hope that the new show runner will breath new life in the show after the disaster that was Moffat. BUT you'll get an "I told you" if the writing starts sounding like forced propaganda. Then again if people start complaining about any forces propaganda over telling a good story I'm sure we'll see the executives and actors call everyone sexist Nazis for bringing up the point.

[@sebastiann.8980]

TheMindofRa Did moffat stop writing for the show? Because that would be the only thing to bring me back into it

[@everythingandthetardiscons7850]

This years christmas special will be the last of which Moffat is show-runner/head-writer. After that, Chris Chibnall takes over.

[@nickcandy1874]

Great throughout the video, especially in the beginning! Your points are well founded, and eloquently put.

[@retroplexus]

Loved this, absolutely well put!

[@glenreid5861]

Remember the days when you did doctor who videos I miss them

[@pikaplayzhd595]

Pepperidge Farm Remembers!

[@t.funkthecoolmunk5472]

I don't care that the new doctor is female, just as long as she plays it well. It's nothing new for a time lord to change gender, I mean the master did it, and I thought Missy was great. Maybe for once can people stop hating on the casting of something just because of what gender or race they are. Just because sjws do it, it doesn't mean it's alright for you to do it. Then you're being a hypocrite like them.

[@Freashplayer]

Hypocrites being hypocritical to hypocrites.

[@dr966]

Cosmological expansion Dong I heard you like hypocrites.....

[@KingRui_yo]

2cool4U the master should not have become a woman though, for him it makes no sense as he believes women are below men (see season 3) especially when he's betrayed by his wife

[@ISesseriI]

It isn't solely because it's a specific gender or race or whatever. It's the fear that instead of making just a good solid show, they will just politicize it and force leftist ideologies down peoples throats with their super progressive woman lead. Retards who don't watch Doctor Who get mad at it being a female for the sake of being female. People who know the political atmosphere, especially in europe just don't want a shit show

[@stevelawlor1901]

Instead of having fears, why don't people just watch the show. No one knows the direction the show will go in yet. The script hasn't even been written.

[@terencecluttey8302]

PROPS TO YOU SIR. You are 100% correct, what is nice about Doctor Who is the fact that it is never the same...

[@stunik156]

Amazing video ! thanks for putting this into words

[@artemisfowldragon]

i adore jody whitaker, "The demons of the punjab" is one of my favourite episodes from her because of the music alone, it's just so... gah, i love it

[@MaskedMan66]

You adore her, but you can't spell her name...

[@artemisfowldragon]

@@MaskedMan66 allow me to correct, Jodie Whittaker

[@MaskedMan66]

Spoken like a civil person. :-)

[@scottking8189]

I think it says something when the music of an episode is the only thing you can say is good, that’s not a good episode

[@stephenbrown4698]

I never really watched Doctor Who, but I'm open to the idea of the doctor being a woman. Just please, guys, don't make her entire character based around the fact that she's a woman.

[@OdaSwifteye]

It's going to be exactly that, don't kid yourself.

[@sleaf6]

It will be, "Hey i have boobs!", "Yes Doctor, we are aware", "But really, look at these things!", "Yes Doctor, we know, we have been indubitably aware of it multiple times already.", "I don't think you heard me, I HAVE BEWWBBS" ok an exaggeration, but they will not let you forget that she is a woman who can do everything a man can, and if they really hold true to form, than it will make the assertion that male and female aren't all that different and they are interchangeable. I don't understand why people think the BBC won't milk this?

[@lexc3863]

sleaf6 I actually do think it would be very Doctor like to make a big deal out of him having boobs. Just like after every regeneration he makes some remark about his new body

[@JacobHillSBD]

Cornley Cappuccino I feel like maybe just a "Well *THOSE* are new." Would be good. Maybe a couple jokes about it, but if it's an every episode thing it'd be annoying.

[@florenceflowers4709]

Why would it be? When the Doctor was a guy the entire character wasn't based aroudn the fact that he was a dude.

[@shilohreisz6243]

This is perfect, this everything I was thinking about the show and more

[@WidarsHall]

You bring up excellent points. Good work.

[@coffeemaenad7455]

My grandma's still pissed off they replaced Hartnell, hahahaha.

[@ashbridgeindustries380]

You'd think that in 54 years of Doctor Who, people would have realised by now that the show changes on a regular basis. Obviously that's not the case...

[@hannibustoogfyrre6074]

Ashbridge Industries The show being different isn't what I have a problem with. The problem is clogging it up with all of this Leftist BS! Stopping the show every 10 seconds to remind us what *totally hip, GAY, millennial* Bill is! Or having Doctor intentionally bringing about the "absolute end of capitalism" and acting like that's a good thing! (It isn't) Or having your aliens of the week push feminist BS about "absolute consent". And a female Doctor can actually be a cool idea! See how she manages to be the Doctor when dealing with people from all over human history. But not a feminist Doctor. A man hating idiot who goes around whining about non existent systemic oppression. A black Doctor could also be cool! (Especially if played by Mos Deff) But not some race baiting, BLM crybully! Blaming slavery they never experienced for their own failures, and saying that modern white people are inherently evil and guilty of their ancestors crimes!

[@troodon1096]

Most people haven't been watching that long I'd imagine.

[@lepterfirefall]

Time lord...from gallifrey with 13 regenerations..now the doctor ISNT a timelord, NOT from Gallifrey, with UNLIMITED REGENERATIONS that include ANIMALS!....NO..., change is one thing but the very foundation of the show now destroyed. They killed it.

[@houston-coley]

Really loved this video, man. I hadn't seen any of the stuff on your channel until today, but you've definitely earned a sub!

[@87PLS]

Fantastic video Quinton, I've missed your doctor who vids. 👍

[@WalkingGirlKoi]

People have a very hard time accepting change. I'm not a Doctor Who fan and will probably never be into it, but change isn't always bad. Of course, it looks a lot worse when you're unwilling to even be open to it, which is where this problem seen here and other communities comes from.

[@SarcyBoi41]

Bugün Benim Günüm People would literally always call this "forced". It's very well established in Doctor Who lore that regeneration can cause a change of gender, and not only recently.

[@kaloyandraganov9462]

WalkingGirlKoi you can say the same thing about cutting your limbs off

[@starofjustice1]

I hope so. A female doctor certainly does have a lot of potential, but I keep seeing it being shouted down before it has a chance to bloom. Here's hoping I'm wrong.

[@eddietuite732]

No it doesn't even need to exist and have you ever watched broad church

[@aisutistoto5771]

@Boneless Pizza fun fact: 8 was a gay white male.

[@Powerof3Films]

I never comment on KZbin videos but seriously, this opened my eyes to a new way of thinking. When they first announced that they had a female doctor I was a a little skeptical as to why a male character needed to be recast as female. I think I’ve been so caught up with the breaking down of gender stereotypes that I never really thought how different the show is going to feel now. And I’m sure I speak for a lot of people when I say, I really hope it’s good.

[@ericmanget4280]

Except it wasn't different in the ways that mattered. She performed a worse copy of tennant and smith and Chibnall got rid of beloved enemies and storylines from the past to bog us down with boring PC horseshit. Wake me up when they've fixed this mess.

[@gizmofrompizmo2177]

Exactly. The Doctor and the show is constantly changing. That's it's strength.

[@Odrikah]

Man, it really is interesting how at the beginning of it all in the first few Hartnell episodes the Doctor doesn't really give a crap about humanity and is only using Earth as a hide-out to serve his own means, only caring about himself and his granddaughter, but after various events sort of force him to keep hanging out with humans and his granddaughter's kindness rubs off on him, he slowly grows softer and softer until he actively protects the world well after Susan and all the others have gone, to the point of being considered a godlike being who is feared by many races across time and space and is the sworn protector of the universe, plagued by the moral issues and stress of the situations that he once avoided but now constantly voluntarily throws himself into, sometimes to the point of sacrificing his own life. Who would have known when looking at him for the first time that that grumpy old man in a box would throw his life on the line for people he has never met time and time again. It makes the Doctor's more recent, darker adventures more poignant as well, because they remind us that, in the end, he's still that grumpy old dude with selfish urges who doesn't always want to help, but he's learned since then and does the right thing in the end anyway. When I think about it like this, I'd say that it's possible (Don't quote me on this, still have yet to try it) that the best way to watch Doctor Who is skipping to the main highlights of each Doctor's run, skipping the regenerations (Most of the time), and leaving the mystery of "How did he get from point A to point B?" in tact, while still getting his overall character development. Tuning in and out of the adventures with this crazy dude, seeing him slowly morph from a reluctant hero to a sort of messianic figure in his adventures all across time and space, not even completely knowing how the stories all fit together if at all. If that's a bit too avant-garde, the tried-and-true method of watching the highlights from Doctors 1 - 7, the 1996 movie, then starting the new series with Rose and watching all the episodes all the way to the end works just as good.

[@cookieface80]

Everyone knows Dr. Who is a human scientist played by Peter Cushing

[@fun_kay]

i enjoy how even the ambiguous title of this video got it dislikes before people had watched it, as if even mentioning the show sets some people off

[@BigDBrian]

Where's the ambiguity? I can only really interpret it one way.

[@darknes4150]

chris spencer dude we all know what the title means it's time to dislike and move on

[@chelsea1062]

What's funny to me is when I first started watching Doctor Who, by the time Christopher Eccleston regenerated I was confused because I have no freaking idea what the heck is going on but then by the time David Tennant regenerated I was happy sad because I totally fell in love with Matt Smith but I missed David at the same time and then by the time Matt regenerated I was completely broken up because he's my absolute favorite doctor but now I've come to have a new respect for the 12th doctor. It's odd but it's like every new actor bring something new to Doctor Who and rejuvenate the series. In the end, to its core, it is still Doctor Who oh, well not really what Chris chibnall is doing with it but that's a whole other story. My point is the doctor made change in some ways but I love how all the previous actors have been able to keep the core of the character with it. It took me awhile to get used to the doctor regenerating and changing but I still love it's nonetheless

[@jimmybisk]

Speaking personally I picked up the show as a young kid way back with the end of the Pertwee era & beginning of Tom Bakers era & have been hooked ever since choosing to embrace the changes that I feel makes for a richer show. While it clearly had reached a point of becoming a tired show during its last season, I was still gutted that it had been cancelled. It's ironic that the last of the classic series is Survival & it was very indicative of how the show would subtly continue through its wilderness years, because survive it did!

[@PearsAreOk]

I used to be one of those people, the kind who blamed everything on the "sjw's" and refused to see the other side of the argument. The kind who saw anything that was remotely progressive as propaganda or whatever. But then i grew up and learned how to form my own opinion about things. My opinion on this is that i accept this change, before they already established the doctor can turn into anything basically.

[@Jepze158]

But she isnt writing this show.

[@leiftorbjorn5621]

Jepze no the politically driven writers are. Is that different?

[@BigDBrian]

it's established the doctor is comfortable as male and had no intentions to change that, as well as that when the doctor gets a new body they don't change gender accidentally, it has to be their choice. Seems like a random move to change it then. Something made to cause annoyance, then be able to say "they just hate it because she's a woman!! misogyny!" and the like.

[@PearsAreOk]

the doctor is adventurous, i wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to be a woman for once in his life time.

[@leonidaslemonis127]

I'm a little behind on Doctor Who, so maybe they state this somewhere in the seasons I haven't seen, but I didn't know the Doctor could *choose* what he regenerated into. Why hasn't he chosen to be ginger, then?

[@bobbys999]

Quinton you're so goddamn great. keep it up!

[@majorcviklje2631]

This is so well said! Congrats!

[@Black0Rabbit]

Thank you for this! I think DW is definitely the lesson on growth and change that none of us want but all of us need.

[@OfficialMexicanNinja]

I hate life.

[@PearsAreOk]

life hates you too kiddo

[@hestheMaster]

I hope you, human don't believe in reincarnation. Who would you become?

[@AL-lh2ht]

You need to get a life before you can hate it.

[@doxophobiac]

I've always found it incredible that Whovians can't seem to accept change in a show that is - at least at this point in its tenure - literally about change.

[@BigDBrian]

I find it odd that there's this idea that people should like change or not care about change. That's dumb. People like something for a reason, change risks that. Plain and simple, to be honest.

[@theeviltwinofmrsundaymovie7834]

mrBorkD change is something that has to happen no matter what. If doctor who stayed the same for the next 50 years, you really think people will still be interested. The gender of the character doesnt matter, its the writing that does.

[@joseaguilar3323]

Ed Bate There is a subset of the people complaining about the change that clearly never watched the show and just saw an opportunity to inject their pollitical herpes into the fandom. Anti-SJWs are turning just as shitty.

[@Xtoff]

Its tokenism

[@saskruffriders8234]

Funny, I thought the show was supposed to be about science fiction.

[@catzicorn]

YESSS!!!!! THIS IS SO GREAT! I credit dw with my ability to almost always be open to change in all my fandoms. Because dw shows me how good it can be.

[@mahojohodge5395]

This isn't the original start of the episode. IDK whether they edited it or remastered it but the original first episode started at the junkyard and was told in non linear format. Also, many story details are completely different from nearly all avaliable or archived versions.

[@rivermode]

"This is TARDIS!" - Dr. Who and the Daleks

[@militarymodellerpaul5932]

Well all the series of doctor who from the start have been great. And I have seen them all from when they were first aired. And having a female doctor didn’t worry me but the PC elements have made me switch off.

[@jkishhabi]

My Doctor is all of them, even if Tom Baker and Peter Davidson shall be special because they were my first Doctors when I found the show as a 6th grade girl from KS, USA, and so were my first serious crushes as well as who I aspired to become when I grew up. I have always loved at least something special about each actor that has taken on the role. As a total Dr. Who nerd I knew the title and airdate of the first episode and I made a little song of all the names of the actors and now actress that have played the Doctor and the Master. As a young teen I wrote to and received handwritten letters of reply from Anthony Ainley who was a very kind gentleman who congratulated me when the Kansas City Royals won the World Series in 1985.

[@werwiewas]

Such a great video. Thank you.

[@langutop6072]

Maybe it's just because I'm not a big doctor who Guy myself, but I haven't really seen a lot of people outraged by this casting decision. I've heard about how people got outraged, but haven't seen it. What I have seen is people worried that the decision was made because BBC is in a bit of trouble when it comes to diversity right now and that's the main reason why Jodie Whitaker was cast, and not because they felt she was the best for the job.

[@jasonhatt4295]

Yeah I learned to accept it, I say "The Doctors Wife has her own show now."

[@aliencreature8475]

I'm still waiting for a very good episode.

[@M-J-B]

Great video first one of your videos I watched. I will now look differently upon Doctor Who now, I always tried to approach it with optimism, but now I will look at it as if it is someones first episode - which I feel really changes the viewing experience.

[@bystander_ow9613]

This was wonderful video and I hope it turns SOME minds around.

[@nancyok]

Quinton you've quickly become one of my favorite youtubers!

[@g0dzillagaming221]

Nancy Dee I love your profile picture

[@epik4192]

Elementary is great btw

[@mattitheraptor8894]

Damn, that's the best argument i've heard yet. Good video:)

[@georgeo7986]

This was a very good and well made video. Bravo

[@vicklemedia5874]

The thing about this gender change is that it's one of the few to happen in recent years that actually makes sense within the rules of it's own universe. Infinite timelines, infinite possibilities - this can't even be considered a "gender swap" because it's technically a new character. I don't see the problem.

[@troodon1096]

The real problem some people have is not the doctor being female, but the doctor being female NOW. Had the doctor already been female half the time over the course of the last 50+ years nobody would be batting an eye. The fact that they're changing the doctor's gender now makes people question the reason for it and it's not hard to be cynical over the motives for the change. Personally I've thought it weird that the doctor hasn't ended up female half the time if the regeneration is supposed to be random, and thought a female doctor was pretty much inevitable. I have no issue with that. But it's hard not to be cynical that the choice to do it now may be motivated by trying to appease progressives, SJWs, and feminists. I really hope that's not the case, and I'm willing to give the new actress a chance. I had no problem with the female Master. Maybe I'm being too cynical for my own good and my misgivings will turn out to be unjustified. I certainly hope so.

[@chriss.9398]

Troodon, you kind of summarized my thoughts on it as well. The timing of it seems suspect enough(especially currently after the spiteful "all female" ghostbusters) to believe the gender change has less to do with the show and more about the political pressure outside the show if that makes sense. I personally don't want to see something shoehorned in simply based on political pressure. If they found an actor/actress who they really really think should be the next doctor and simply based off the decision of qualifications alone then I can at least have a peace of mind in knowing they found the right person. If they decided to do it for any other reasons then I am afraid the decisions have nothing to do with the show itself.

[@hampsterdamsel2461]

But the doctor has been female though lol in curse of the fatal death! Or perhaps people don't see that as canonical?

[@timrob12]

I can see why people think political correctness is involved, but I think they're missing the quote spoken by Chris Chibnall who said: "I always wanted a female Doctor". Just putting that out there.

[@QuintonReviews]

Eyy been a while since I've seen a comment from you. Throwback right there.

[@timrob12]

Apparantly, my channel wasn't recieving the new updates.

[@gizmofrompizmo2177]

Um, I think that's the entirety of why they think it's a PC move. "Oh, he was never even going to consider a male Doctor? SEXISM!!!!!!!" Like maybe he just really likes working with Jodie Whitaker.

[@timrob12]

He worked with her on Broadchurch, so he knew what she is capable of. I might go and watch that show in preparation and see how Dr. 13 runs into her 10th and 1st incarnation.

[@timrob12]

Exactly.

[@ReversedPolarity]

This a wonderful and well-detailed analysis of what happens in Doctor Who when the Doctor changes. A lot of people don't understand how important it really is to embrace change in this show and fully accept it. Like Colin said, they have been conditioned by certain aspects of the show, so when the show changes beyond the format they enjoyed, they simply hate it or disagree with it or nitpick it. There can't be a label that defines the show because every formula involves embracing change, you can't simply say the Doctor is supposed to be an action packed hero or a quirky young male or an old professor type or even... male, when it's an alien. As fans of this ever-changing show, we're just along for the ride, the show is not the ideal from our nostalgia, it's far bigger than that.

[@ladymecha8718]

You did a very good presentation, for that I thank you 😊

[@MrCooldaddy098]

this actually makes me want to start up on Doctor Who again since i have been immensely bored for the last few years.

[@milboxr9772]

MrCooldaddy098 bored for whole years? Damn

[@QuintonReviews]

Start with Series 10, episode 1: The Pilot.

[@MrCooldaddy098]

is it that good?

[@mew072]

MrCooldaddy098 I watched it and imo it was poor and ignored the rest of the series

[@knavenformed9436]

Quinton Reviews Aka. New Who? If that was Eccleston, yes that is a nice place to start.

[@LadyViscera]

I honestly couldn't care less who plays the Doctor. As long as they're actually good at it

[@GeekGirl-ub7ki]

The First Doctor I saw was the 4th on PBS reruns as a child (I was in the USA) but really started regularly with the 10th Tenant. I then went back to the beginning and now my favorite over-all is the 2nd Troughton. I love each actor's interpretation and look forward to seeing what Jody's will be.

[@ClonePilotSwoop]

The episode that hooked me and the one I recommend people start with is "New Earth" the first episode of New Who S2.

[@Alondro77]

Changes can happen. Are they good or bad, though? Generally, making changes for the sake of changes... tends to ruin something that was working fine already.

[@annathor6284]

Still, the current stories I find to be quite boring and unimaginative. But I do like JW as Dr. - I just hope she gets better writing...

[@dreadedthread2163]

Great video. I was hoping you would make this

[@leejk3926]

I'd love to see you make a video or two on Torchwood. I really liked watching that back in the day with it being an older audience version of Doctor Who, even when I was somewhat too young for it.

[@Joe-bc8vv]

Change fine, but to take the core and throw it in garbage. Jodi could have been good, if shitnall did not exist! Took heart out.

[@Naminator5]

While personally I don't give two shits because I don't watch Doctor Who anyway, but I will say there's a fine difference between Accepting and Tolerating changes.

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

I don’t watch much Doctor Who, but I’ll keep this video in mind when and if I get back into it.

[@vekavex6606]

Good video.I really enjoyed it.Just keep it up like this and you are golden! ;)

[@alexwothebr1118]

I don't feel like I needed that synopsis of the first episode.

[@QuintonReviews]

Exactly.

[@alexwothebr1118]

No I mean it kinda dragged on a bit. I understand what you were trying to do, but it kinda felt like something the gamer from mars would do in his videos.

[@Potassiumkloride]

I actually really appreciated the more thorough synopsis. I was a fan of the rebooted show for a long time, but never really delved into what it was like before the 9th doctor. I had no clue what the show started from and it gave me an appreciation of how the show has changed that I don't think a shorter, quicker summary would have been able to convey.

[@hal900x]

What nobody outside the anti-SJW "communitah" can seem to grasp is it is NOT diversity that is the problem. It's jamming the square peg of progressive politics into entertainment's round hole. If it is done subtly and as part of an engaging story, such as was done frequently in "Star Trek: The Next Generation" then no problem. That second iteration of Star Trek was chock-full of liberal political lessons and sentiment, and it was well loved. But when the very first words out of the new doctor's actress' mouth is "As a woman and a feminist, I feel proud...." all of us let out a collective groan. It's the exact same with Marvel comics: the idiot executive who said "diversity isn't selling" was clueless. Diversity is fine. Ramming "HEY LOOK EVERYONE THE CHARACTER IS A FEMINIST!!!" or "HEY LOOK THE SIDEKICK IS AN ANDROGYNOUS GAY BLACK WOMAN!!!" down our throats is insulting and kills immersion into the show's universe.

[@OdaSwifteye]

They've said exactly that. So, do you not listen to them or do you just assume their arguments?

[@thesonicravn870]

See I honestly don't care that the doctor who is a girl, real fans have know he could be one for a while. I think for most people have a problem with it because it dosent seem like a natural change. All this seems more like a publicity stunt rather then a story related one. For example with the casting of peter capaldi it seemed as though they were going cast older roles and then go younger and younger. But Jodie seems much too young. Also I worry there will be large chunks of the story making speeches about being a woman. And telling the audience that she is just as capable a doctor as the versions before her. Rather then actually showing her doing things, and being a good character. I know this is an unpopular opinion but Bill was example of this. The show made a big deal about her being black, lesbian and a woman. But she never really did much in the show. She was kinda just there to be there. Hopefully I'm wrong and the show does make good use of the character. I honestly do hope they do and I'm not going to stop watching even if they don't.

[@fv2977]

Did she really say "as a woman and a feminist"? If she did, then that's awful writing, and I understand the outcry. If not, you're just speaking out of your ass.

[@Overphased]

hal900x wait, she actually said "As a woman and a feminist I feel proud."?

[@wabbit234]

Exactly, when it's done simply for story reasons, no body cares. As soon as it becomes readily apparent that a decision is done for idealogical reasons outside of telling a good story, it becomes tokenism and it's jarring and immersion breaking.

[@bretthanna8411]

Subscribed. Rung that bell. Masterfully done, sir

[@sarahsousa2706]

Just amazing !!!

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

still not ginger XD

[@ZevolveZ]

I don't watch the show, but I know what most people say its the problem, its not that the doctor is a woman. Its that the Doctor is gonna be The Woman instead of the doctor and with the track record of the BBC, I can see why they say things like that.

[@ZevolveZ]

And by that I mean that the Identity of the doctor being more important than she being the Doctor herself.

[@SarcyBoi41]

Based on what Jodie Whittaker herself has said about it, she wouldn't want to take on the role if that were the case.

[@someonethirsty1957]

John Doe Hasn't she just said things about how progressive it is to make the doctor a woman?

[@daffydeel9873]

Considering there will be a new showrunner, what Moffat has done with the show is largely irrelevant.

[@Xtoff]

*T O K E N I S M*

[@angelamccafferrty9487]

Doctor Who is perhaps thee most Special show ever. The idea on paper sounds ludicrous but it's lasted 50+ plus years based on change. There will never be anything like it again

[@javanrench2094]

This is the smartest Doctor Who Video ever