Twice Upon a Time | Quinton Reviews

As late to the game as ever, Quinton talks about the ambitious 2017 Doctor Who Christmas special.
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[@Nevernamed]

My response to the First Doctor being shocked by the future is: "YOU ARE A TIME TRAVELLER! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE SHOCKED BY THE WAY SOCIETY WORKS IN THE FUTURE!".

[@cookieface80]

True but he hasn't travelled as much as later incarnations, he hasn't been everywhere yet. He usually had no idea what was going on in his episodes.

[@themysteriouscatperson9483]

Yeah, he’s just end up in random places, fix the problem they had there, find the tardis, rinse, repeat

[@soltandvinegar]

I think it's less him being shocked by the future, and more so him being shocked by his own future.

[@jackthefrog80085]

Yes but he's way younger

[@Moggetslittlesister]

I friggin loved basically all of Capaldi's run so of course I also loved Twice Upon a Time. I hadn't really thought how the previous two regeneration stories were really wrapped up in continuity and were forced to wrap everything up and slap a regeneration on top. Whereas here I went and saw Twice Upon a Time in the theater with two of my friends who had seen none of Capaldi's run, and they were able to really enjoy it with only an explanation of who all the companions where just in case they showed up. That would not be possible at all with Tennant's and Smith's regenerations. In this instance, the regeneration alone is enough to carry the story, which is nice.

[@james4thedoctor482]

Thank you for this! My only quam with Twice Upon a Time is the forced sexism of the 1960's into the Doctor from that era. He was not like that at all. While the "jolly good smacked bottom" is a quote as you said, it was in reprimanding his own granddaughter, not because she was a girl but because, as you mentioned, he viewed her as still dependent on him.

[@Sam-hk7xt]

EXACTLY. I think it was insinuated homophobia too as that was bill's punchline before the collective :0 and maybe some racist undertones. Unfortunately it's just a reflection of what chibnail's and RTD.2's era would bring forth :(

[@DitzyDaffy]

I would lean heavily towards agreeing with you (on the Moffat hate front)... but much of the criticism directed at Moffat is not just for Doctor Who, but also the other travesties of writing he has penned. *side eyes later series of Sherlock*

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

And even earlier, Jekyll was a hot mess.

[@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond]

@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 i kinda love Jekyll. It's batshit crazy, especially the last few episodes. But theres something fun about how stupid it got. Didn't take itself seriously and was just pure campy fun.

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

@@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond I completely agree. You just have to embrace the insanity of it all.

[@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond]

@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8its insanely fun lol i'm glad you agree because honestly i've spoken to very few people who have not only seen the show but actually appreciate how absurdly bizarrely weird it is. "It's like sky+ in here!"

[@ThatReviewerGamer]

I'm not a fan of Doctor Who, but if I was a immortal being that changed form every now and then, trying out how it's like to be a woman would be reasonable.

[@romulusnuma116]

I don't think he gets to choose his form.

[@ThatReviewerGamer]

Romulus Numa I don't know ether, but I don't think an immortal? aspect changing being would care about something so trivial as sex.

[@romulusnuma116]

Yeah I wonder how the show will handle it will she after to constantly deal with people mention it when they first meet her or only when it's relevant,

[@ThatReviewerGamer]

Romulus Numa If I was a fan, I would like a quick light and fun acknowledgement about how this is the first time that the Doctor gets to be a woman, and then move on like normal, and don't use this as an excuse to hammer any political point endlessly.

[@lewisconroy6225]

Time Lords aren't immortal. There is a Thirteen regenerations limit

[@MysteriousJojo]

Everytime someone says "This weeks episode was the worst thing Moffat has ever written" has clearly never seen Jekyll. Have you SEEN Jekyll? Holy mother of god.

[@darkymcsoulface7057]

Mysterious Jojo The new guy is the one responsible for the cyberwoman in torchwood. I sure hope he's changed...

[@JVSkellington]

@@darkymcsoulface7057 °-°

[@rosydonut]

Yeah, I drifted away from watching doctor who about half way through Matt Smith's run because I felt the storylines had become too convoluted. Decided to watch the Christmas episode out of curiosity and found it very enjoyable.

[@ryancarrick3585]

Rosie J modern Doctor Who is quite hit or miss

[@wanderingrandomer]

@Moose Goose No no, I'll not have that said. I love the RTD era, most of my favourite episodes come from then.

[@crimsondynamo615]

Dropped off at around Asylum too Eh?

[@durn863]

no, Quinton. Youre all I need

[@johnchrystler1187]

Aww.

[@leonardoreyes1697]

I found your channel almost by accident after searching about mathoss and h3h3, so your video was suggested by youtube, I tried to avoid it, but eventually watched it, then I begun to watch your other content, and it was very interesting. It hook me up very quickly after watching your manos video, your content deserves more atention man, keep the good work!

[@Rangernewb5550]

Leonardo Reyes You've been missing out dude

[@TheRealMcFlames]

Wow that's the exact same path I went down with this channel. Matt hoss still hasn't posted unfortunately.

[@CyberSpider35]

Christmas Truce is the only and most important Christmas element in this episode and this is great, actually. Some other specials were to annoying with their forced Christmas motives.

[@QuintonReviews]

Hell yea they were, haha. "Uh, the town is called Christmas. Yea."

[@Machialemmi]

Actually there where some battalions wich didnt play on with this christmas truce , the "north bavarian reserve regiment" wich captain was none other than Adolf Hitler (who the captain kinda looks like (would be an incredable inaccuracy if he was him ))

[@sengelhard2982]

@@Machialemmi Hitler never was a captain, at that time he was only Gefreiter.

[@brianvaira486]

As far as I'm concerned, this is the final doctor who episode.

[@charlesajones77]

I've come from the future to let you know, After 2 years of Chris Chibnall, you'll be wishing Moffat was still in charge.

[@PurplePineappleChannel]

8:35 World War ONE

[@QuintonReviews]

How in the hell did I get that wrong? I bet you hard cash it was right in the script and I just read it wrong like an idiot. Ugh.

[@Pablo360able]

Krillin voice: “You know, you start saying World War and you just kinda wanna say Two”

[@bananamuntcher]

I think the idea that the moff being a good writer but does not do well as showrunner as he does well in single episodes rather than running multiple series, if you have not seen the "who cares" series by unpopular culture i would reccomend it

[@QuintonReviews]

I really disagree tho. I think a lot of his runs have been really strong. And they've frankly aged more than the RTD stuff. Sure, some stuff is bad, but it's much more complex than "He's bad at all of x and good at all of y."

[@SinOfPhish]

I am curious if you have watched any of Moffat's other works, because I hold a similar opinion to the person you replied to. It is important to note that Moffat is not the "end-all-be-all" for the episodes/shows he writes for. He is part of a team of writers, and that collaboration helps him refine his ideas. However, even with that in mind, I would still say there is a noticeable difference between him show-running and writing for single episodes. In the long form, there are plot points that tend to be established well but then lag behind or just dropped in at odd times and wrap up abruptly. It feels like a lack of focus or just a rushed payoff to these kinds of story threads (loose or otherwise). His work on the one-off episodes feel more cohesive and better handled within the context of the episode(s) and wider plot. Perhaps the time constraints and/or limited budgets (on a single episode) allow him narrow the scope of the writing and really solidify interesting concepts and not get "carried away". I will agree he has his ups and downs, and that the "x to y" summation is a hasty generalization people use against him, but I really do think he does his best work in the short form, and more constantly too, when compared to the long form.

[@2curlicue4u]

Quinton Reviews if you haven't already I recommend watching hbomberguy's videos about moffat's work on who and sherlock. I'd really like to hear a more direct response to his arguments from you as you seem to be more of a fan.

[@mrwheatthins2413]

None of ur' Business m8 I agree. Moffat's main problem was him trying to set up multiple series long mysteries. "Who is Riversong?" "Why are there cracks in the universe?" "Who are the silence?" "What is Trenzalore?". He sets up too many mysteries and ends up making unfulfilling conclusions. This problem wouldn't exist if he just wrote episodes and wasn't a showrunner.

[@ianlachey1726]

This was WWI not WWII

[@kikifigs4013]

I know, he said it was a WWII captain and then they traveled to the Christmas Truce in 1914.

[@appo365]

It was a World War One captain from a few hours before the truce, the Doctor shifted events a few hours forward. He didn’t take him from WW2 and put him in WW1.

[@Ami14120]

@@appo365 yeah there is even that scene where the captain says "what do you mean 1" in referring to the war

[@brendanirwin1986]

yes, we're aware, but this man is Hitler, and if he died in WW1 as he was supposed to the horror of WW2 would not have happened

[@NagromVoice]

@@brendanirwin1986 he's not hitler, he's a British soldier

[@ShawnsLegacy]

About damn time someone actually reviewed the damn thing instead of spouting off nonsense about political and sexist bullshit that ultimately means nothing to the show its self! Thank you so much, Quinton. This was all i needed

[@GreenSharder]

Well that depends what you mean by “sexist bullshit”. If you mean people saying the doctor can’t be a woman, they aren’t correct, there was never anything saying a regeneration couldn’t change their gender. Regeneration was sort of an in the moment decision. It wasn’t something that was ever supposed to even happen. The producers were worried the first doctor was too old, how do they fix it, new body, new actor. However, calling that sexist is disingenuous. This is something new and sometimes new things can be scary. If you’re on the end of the political spectrum that is calling people sexist, imagine if stuff like The Gems became confirmed as men, or the actor of Harry Potter or Sherlock became a menist. It would undoubtedly be difficult to accept, especially if those people openly wanted to insert their politics into the show. And that’s what’s happening here. It’s changing an established character, and warping these beloved moments by overshadowing them with a blob of bringing the real world unnecessarily into an reality that has been used for escapism. And that’s not what Doctor Who is about. I mean, the last series in my opinion was utter rubbish because of this. We had a ham fisted lesbian romance with Bill and whatshername because the people writing the show wanted to show that they were in support of lesbianism and it left a bad taste in my mouth that they had created a character just for that. Because apart from the last 2 episodes, Bill was the blandest character possible. All I can tell you about Bill is her age, her gender, and her sex because anything else is forgettable or not established. Hell, I can tell you more about the characters that featured in one episode, because they have to have a motivation in order to establish the episode. And this isn’t about women, because we had the Sarah Jane Adventures, which was basically a female doctor who, and that was good, and had a high audience and critical reception. It’s about motive. Yes you could make the doctor female, but why? There isn’t any need to. It could even backfire so horribly, that we never get a good female doctor because it was done so poorly. You might even make everyday people anti-feminists because you ruin the show by inserting feminism. How can you not see that you are just being a detriment to your cause And a detriment to other people, by inserting something from the real world into fiction? Have you forgotten the massive sub count Sargon and all them got from gamergate when they did this with games? You are shooting yourselves in the foot to the point where you have the president of the biggest western powerhouse openly denouncing you.

[@ShawnsLegacy]

I completely agree with that. When i said i'm glad to see someone review this without bringing up political and sexist bullshit, i was actually referring to the BS the show tends to spew most of the time. Like, for example, the numerous times that Bill and Clara took jabs at men, or the several occasions the doctor went out of his way to bring up Donald Trump and political issues in general that ultimately boiled down to "hey, we don't like that thing! stop doing that thing, pretty please~" In all honesty, those issues have been brought to light plenty of times. I've seen them time and time again, and i animatedly despise the direction the show took ever since season 5. And that's why this review is something i really needed out of the doctor who community. I've heard the same opinions and critiques repeated over and over again, and seeing someone with a different perspective and a unique way of looking at the show is just... Refreshing. Like i said, i really don't like the direction the show took ever since season 5. It was just too damn goofy for my taste. But hearing nothing but the exact same opinion i hold being repeated ad nauseum is just, for lack of a better word, toxic. I'm not one to pick sides, especially when it comes to issues of current year. In all honesty, i find both sides to be just as stupid in their own ways. And doctor who was a way to escape for abit and stop having to hear all that crap. So, seeing someone review an episode like this on its own merit rather than bringing up issues with previous episodes just kinda remind me of the good'ol days of the show, i guess.

[@GreenSharder]

Yeah. Pretty much. It wasn’t just Bill and Clara either. Any Time Lord that regenerated was instantly said something that boiled down to “Aren’t men arrogant and stupid lol, so glad I’m a woman now.” It’s really annoying too, because it’s something me and my dad watched when I was a kid, and the only thing we still watch together now, and it’s started pandering to this new audience of far left women and killing off it’s male audience, exactly the same as when it started pandering to the casual U.S. audience with the way too hyper, lowest common denominator humour with the eleventh doctor’s series, all the way through to the second to last series, after which he got a solid less irritating and more British personality, at which point, they killed him off, which has been a pattern recently. Even David Tennant, who got a long period of time as the Doctor, didn’t actually have enough episodes to create a lot of interesting scenarios after they properly established his character. They still got pretty lucky because the first episode was fucking astounding and they managed to almost instantly create his groundwork with the help of David Tennants acting. But we’re at the point where I don’t even know if there’s ever going to be another astounding Doctor. I fear it’s caught a sort of Simpson’s illness where it’s constantly stabs itself in the foot because it takes too many risks after having had such a critically successful series and frankly not being able to live up to it. I mean, unless the BBC funnels a ton of money into it, I just don’t know if it’s possible.

[@ShawnsLegacy]

Actually, i don't think the problem with the series as it is now is that it's taking too many risks. Quite the contrary. You see, i'm willing to bet that that group of dudes in that small room over at BBC HQ saw all the feminists and SJW's meandering around and thought "hey, that's a big crowd of morons! let's get alittle of their money, ey?" And thus, the current problem we're facing. As for the whole pandering to the American audience problem that Matt Smith's era had, i think that was due to how well it did when the David Tennant and Christopher Eccleston era's aired on the SyFy network

[@GreenSharder]

I feel like strangely enough you could apply the same reasons Dr. Who is failing to the reasons Canada is failing, only Canada is less important outside of Canada. And by taking risks I meant moving away from the source material to find a new audience, not actually taking risks with the story, but taking risks by dumbing it down to a lower audience for the majority of the eleventh doctors stories and imposing more of an arc where there only needs to be a few. Like how you need to see every episode to understand the situation, which happened less back in the day because of on demand, and even with David Tennant they had fewer, despite having one story over multiple episodes. I guess that’s more the fault of the liberties on demand television allows though.

[@tealyg99]

Moffat is responsible for both my favourite and least favourite series of the revival of doctor who, series 9 and series 7 respectively. He has his flaws as a show runner, mostly stemming from season long arcs that went nowhere, were left to speculation (such as the hybrid in series 9 which along with sleep no more are my two least favourite parts of that series) or were disappointing. That being said as a script writer he is my favourite, heaven sent, even from Moffat haters, is considered to be one of, if not the best episode of the series as a whole, personally it’s my favourite revival story and 3rd favourite story behind the enemy of the world and the caves of androzani. He, along with the actor himself, managed to turn my scepticism of the casting of capaldi into one of sheer gratitude, he’s my favourite revival doctor now, and as a whole is only outclassed by troughton. I’m gonna miss him and I hope he writes again for the series in the future, Chris has some massive shoes to fill and his previous episodes, unlike Steven’s before taking over, aren’t considered classics.. I barely remember dinosaurs on a spaceship or 42. However if he can write with the same emotional depth as he did in Pond Life then I will be very happy indeed.

[@angreydoggo4357]

How many videos will have "As late to the game as ever, Quinton talks about the ambitious 2017 Doctor Who Christmas special." as the description? The Citizen Kane video had it, so I'm assuming its a running joke?

[@angreydoggo4357]

It did for a moment. I think Quinton changed it

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Revisionist history

[@samcallanan3633]

I think it's a running joke

[@randomdudewholikesmusic1640]

I remember when you only had about 2k subs doing reviews on bootleg movies. Glad your channel is growing. Keep it up.

[@samuelbarber4154]

The Doctor Who fan's regeneration cycle: 1) No, don't go! 2) I hate this new one! 3) Oh, I think they're growing on me. 4) Wait, where are you going? 5) No, don't regenerate Doctor! 6) Repeat.

[@brendanirwin1986]

new who

[@n.l.g.6401]

One of my favorite things to do is watch/read multiple reviews of the same piece of media that come away with completely different conclusions from one another. It's taught me to be more nuanced in and more comfortable with my own opinions, while at the same time gaining more understanding and respect for people who disagree. That said, there's this air of... smugness in Moffat's work that I can't stand. I respect his cool ideas, but ehhhhhh...

[@blah7983]

8:36 Him being from World War ONE was fairly significant my dude

[@pikaplayzhd595]

I agree, a nice, magical, fun little story and a nice fitting end to the twelfth doctor's era and I can't wait to see where Whittaker will take us in Series 11, she is going to be awesome, I will miss Capaldi though :(

[@QuintonReviews]

So will I, so will I.

[@alexandercolefield9523]

its a WW1 captain, not a WW2 captain

[@QuintonReviews]

doh

[@alexandercolefield9523]

Now I am imagining however a WW2 Christmas truce where everyone chills out for a day and plays soccer with Nazis.

[@SaintsBro217]

Alexander Colefield The German soldiers in ww2 weren't Nazis, their leaders were. Most of them were forced to either fight or die in a labour camp.

[@TheWeepingDalek]

even more funny if it was the sovients who played with them.

[@cameronsprague101]

Tracer that just depends where you look. Plenty of them were not nazis in the sense people think of but there are also plenty of examples where the German soldiers were more than happy to go along with the nazi narrative.

[@LiveHedgehog]

1966, not 1965

[@LifeInAConcreteBox]

I...prefer Moffat over Davies as showrunner and I don’t hate either of them. I feel so alone.

[@Hellohiq10]

bhbrewster I’m with you comrade

[@TheWhovinerd-1963]

I’m really sorry to point this out but William Hartnels Doctor regenerated in 1966 not 65 I’m nitpicking but I couldn’t help it xx

[@r3n3gad33]

"If I hear anymore language like that coming from you young lady you are in a very good smack bottom!" Imagine if 1 met Torchwood he would obliterate their arses.

[@ACTS-sh1wi]

It would of been cool if Caecilius made an appearance, "The Fires of Pompeii" was a cool episode

[@SqrlGrlDawn]

Moffat should only write one-offs

[@darkashtar]

I enjoyed the run, while it's not prefect, perfection is a fallacy.

[@CoalDiamondandhisawesomeness]

Half an hour of this was cut. What a shame. I hope we get some kind of extended edition on DVD or even in theaters.

[@Yetaxa]

There are countless episodes that had footage cut None of the deleted footage has ever been released, so far as I know There was an edit of Vincent and the doctor that lasted 75 minutes Would be nice to see it one day though

[@FunzieOne]

haven't pitched a tent this fast since boy scouts

[@frazzlesreviews5379]

The hartnell TARDIS was actually the same one from the sixties. It was taken out of the doctor who experience when it closed down.

[@slaughterround643]

Yay another video from my favourite little boy in the whole wide world

[@frightening_volleyball1231]

"Twice upon a time" and the finale for season 10 are like "end of time" but good

[@AlbinoAxolotl]

Hey Quinton, could you make a playlist of all your Doctor Who videos? I’m working on watching all of them but it can be difficult to pick them out and not miss any. Thanks so much! They and all your other reviews are fantastic!

[@timrob12]

That Steven Moffat has written some bad stories, agreed. Hell Bent for example, wasn't what I hoped it would be and even though it had some elements I liked, it did dissapoint me. But that Moffat can't write good episodes is bullshit. I mean, look at the meeting between 12 and Davros. That was a great moment and brilliant. And many other stories from both the Capaldi and Smith era, are wonderful. I am also glad you don't focus too much on the First Doctor's sexist comments, as that is not what the episode is about, which I''ve had endless discussions about with people, telling them there is more to focus on than that, like the beautiful shot of the First Doctor going back inside his TARDIS while the sun rises in the background or the little moment he talks about leaving Gallifrey. Beautiful moments and most of it, I would say, is a nice tribute to Hartnell. Not all of it, but most of it.

[@TheAntiSanta]

I find it hard to believe Steven Moffat would have been universally praised if he left the show in 2013, considering Sherlock would still exist in that timeline.

[@jeffmoo9235]

Twice upon a Time is a story I'm very conflicted on. I love most of it, I think it's a very good exploration of who the doctor is as well as what happens when he gives up. It's a very nice story about finding hope again after tragedy. And then there's the first doctor, who's mischaracterisation is so bad it drags the whole story down around it

[@indigomontari9022]

Now in the end of 2020 we now know he should have stayed on

[@PeteNicholsonAnimation]

I don’t know why people are so critical of Moffat but love Russel T Davies. They both had the same flaw IMO: great at the start, then the episodes got weaker. At least they both had reasonably good episodes ending their respective eras.

[@Toby_Price]

11:37 London night? Nope! It was Sheffield!

[@azraphon]

Moffat's writing isn't a problem as long as he's supervised. His 'big picture' nonsense is what ruined Doctor Who and Sherlock.

[@SpencerCJ]

Damn man I love your shit but twice upon a time was terrible, the pacing was some of the worst ive seen in TV for a while, its treatment of the first doctor is offensive, and ultimatly i dont feel like 12's issue was resolved, he wasnt given a reason to keep going he just did it.

[@danielueblacker9118]

You like what you like and is refreshing to just hear views without hate. Would love if you went Doctor by Doctor and give us your feelings aka insights.

[@KoishNoish]

I think Twice Upon a Time is a solid episode overall. I like it's style, its pacing and a good number of the themes it tries to hit on. I found myself unusually connected and invested in the soldier character and I really liked Gatiss' performance. Some of the effects were pretty dodgy and the Dalek section felt a little out of place, but those are moreso small missteps than anything else. On the subject of Moffat I find myself oddly torn. I admire a lot of his scripts he wrote under Russel T Davies' tenure. The Lonely Child arc and Blink are probably some of the best episodes that Who's ever had. And even with him as head writer, more recently, he made Heaven Sent, an amazing piece of television that exploits Capaldi's capturing performance even when completely alone. That being said, Moffat seems to have generally adopted a more confusing and less engaging style of writing since he became show runner. So many of his plots seem needlessly complicated just to be complicated and spend so much time of exposition that it's difficult to invest in anything else. Characters feel poorly developed, especially those for one off episodes, there's still some characters that hit moments but they're fewer and further between than I'd like. Do I think he's out of steam? Maybe. Season 10 was largely fine to good for me, maybe a 6/10 (which is good considering). And although I might feel some relief at seeing him go and getting an entirely new Doctor (I don't mind it being a her now) and a Head Writer it's also undeniable just how much he's contributed to the success of the show in modern day. Under his tenure Doctor Who became much much bigger overseas (outside of the UK) where previously it had very rarely expanded beyond the shores.

[@almighty9539]

the best part about twice upon a time is how the 12th doctor discovers that there isn't always evil in the universe, that there is also good.

[@thestranger2830]

Ahhhh, and now here we are with a burning hatred for chibnal that will actually stay this time whilst wishing we appreciated the time we had with dear Moffett

[@THATGuy5654]

There was a crowd shot of one of the convention clips in your video, where I saw a girl cosplaying as a weeping angel in the audience of a panel. I imagined Moffat and crew maintaining perfect eye contact with just her, unblinking, for the entire panel, and it gave me a chuckle.

[@Bvggerffpls]

Honestly, I don't dislike Moffat because of the quality of the episodes, I dislike him because the dialogue is always so snarky, unsubtle, condescending, preachy and on-the-nose. I can feel his ego dripping off the TV screen. The man clearly thinks he's on top of the world. He's the Rian Johnson of Dr Who. But, like Rian Johnson, he's talented and no idiot. If he had pulled his head out of his arse more often, I'd have been able to stand him

[@gallifreyfalls5003]

i would even go as far as to say Rian Johnson is slightly better because is sometimes able to pull his head out of his ass for a few minutes, not for very long but still longer than Moffat

[@rayvenkman2087]

You should see that video titled "Steven Moffat interview he wants you to forget" by stuffthefrankie where it had those interviews of Steven Moffat from a magazine publication during the 90's and he gave the classic series with the exception of Tom Baker a bashing. It's particularly rich when he pans the Virgin New Adventures books for things he is guilty of as well.

[@Jayfive276]

And a man can't change his opinion on something in 25 years? Grow up.

[@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8]

Weirdly I've always seen him as the George Lucas of Doctor Who, he's got great ideas, but gets sloppy when given full control, and often tries to rewrite past events within the timeline.

[@jackkemp7256]

Alexander Trenfield I don't see it. Probably because I didn't originally keep track of who wrote what so the transitions may have gone over my head.

[@thenebulasystem8251]

Excellent review! You have no idea how nice it is to see positivity toward this story! I loved it myself and I’m glad someone else enjoyed it too!

[@treymcdermott6414]

You must admit, the glass lady model is the stuff of nightmares

[@USTankslashercoal]

Well spoken as always, Quinton. You can articulate your thoughts far better than the majority of the students in my law school.

[@WiloPolis03]

Couldn't agree with you more about Steven Moffat. He has a couple issues with his writing, but so did Russell T Davies, to be fair.

[@RyanDB]

This will have been said countless time by now, but Moffat is excellent at writing episodes of Doctor Who. He's is, however, profoundly lacking when it comes to his ability to write/manage seasons. He just doesn't know how to tell a compelling story over that long a span. He's awful at it, and should never have been put in that position. People's animosity towards him isn't stupid or hypocritical, as you claim. There is a huge difference between being a writer and being head writer/executive producer. He's very good at one thing, and very bad at the other.

[@whorhythmic]

yes Quinton really wanted to know what u thought about this miss ur doctor who vids

[@jakob716]

Robert Holmes wrote over 60 episodes of the show, so no, Moffat didn't wrote most. Also, Holmes gave us Gallifrey, The Sontarans, Sarah Jane, 12 regeneration limit and many more.

[@brendanirwin1986]

the 12 regenerations are now being thrown right out the window. Jodie is the 13th doctor, after her there can be no more, but will the bbc honour this if she sucks as badly as she is a t present? When I first saw the new who, it was so different to what I was used to I thought it was a new show, and they were going to reboot and go back to 1, which would make Jodie the 5th doctor, but no, it's continued and she is the 13th, so unless she possesses someone's body, like the master did, to continue her regenerations, it's over. But for me new who finished with twice apon a time. this is another series of who, Doctor Who - Time Lady

[@nonameisaname8480]

It was a WWI captain not WWII.

[@edgarjuarez6588]

Was this another sarcastic review? I don't know what to believe anymore! Am i in the Truman Show?

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

What a terrifying universe we have created

[@mrcat4508]

I really hope that Chris chibbnall makes the next season really good I also hope if next season is bad the views reflect it so the BBC change the show runner early as long as the writer is good I have no problems with the new doctor

[@thewhiterabbit2019]

I know who much you love logan paul, I just noticed there's a Netflix movie with him called Where's the Money? you should check it out;) lol

[@Nevernamed]

I still don't understand how the Doctor "Adjusted the time-frame" to make the Christmas truce happen earlier and save the captain. He says he did something, but it makes no sense. Did he trick the time travelling machine into letting him drop the captain off at the wrong time? That doesn't make sense, because all of the people are still frozen in the positions they were left in. If nothing's changed on the battlefield itself, why did the people start celebrating early? There was no indication that the sun had moved, and any clocks should have been frozen with everything else. (Not that it was even a planned event) Imagine it like this: Someone's sitting in a chair in their living room. In an hour, they'll decide they want some tea and get up to make it. A time traveler comes along and freezes the entire town in time, and moves everything inside the town forward in the time stream 55 minutes compared to everything outside of town. Does that mean that the person is going to get up in just 5 minutes? No! Because everything has been moved forward, and whatever chain of thought or events lead to them getting up to get the tea was frozen as well, and will still take an hour to occupy the person's mind. Or an even simpler example: Someone drops a brick off a building. This person represents the beginning of the chain of events that will lead to the outcome (The brick smashing). Halfway down the building a time traveler appears, freezes time, and moves the whole building ahead an hour from the perspective of outsiders. Will that affect how long it takes for the brick to complete the rest of it's journey and hit the ground? I also thought he might have just moved everything forward a little bit. But that doesn't make sense either. If you move everything in the universe forward by an hour, you still haven't done anything. The universe will notice no change. The only way I can see this working is if it was something from outside the battlefield that caused them to begin the truce, but even that doesn't make sense. Time hasn't just frozen on the battlefield, it's frozen at the north pole as well. This doesn't seem to be a universal thing, but there's still good reason to believe this covers the entire planet. The Doctor could have said he "jibblejammed the flibbleflams" and it would make just as much sense. Even if you do accept that the doctor was somehow able to make the event occur earlier and save the captain, despite how little sense that makes, it raises more problems. Since when did the Doctor have the godlike power to make events happen just a little earlier or later? That would have been a useful thing to use in all those other scenarios when you didn't have enough time to do something. Or just "adjust the timeframe" so that the evacuation of the hypothetical space station is completed before it's smashed into by a hypothetical meteor. You want to know what I think would be a better way to do it? Have the Doctor come out with his guitar and start playing a christmas song or something. Have HIM kickstart the events. You could even say that the perception filter stopped the soldiers from actively acknowledging the song, but that it lodged itself in their subconscious and lead to them doing what they were going to do (starting the truce) early. They even brought the guitar up earlier, with the First Doctor being all "most unorthodox!" about it. They could have used this as an opportunity to teach the First Doctor about how not all "unorthodox" things are necessarily bad. And that's just ONE of the problems I have with this episode. It's not a plot hole. It's a plot hole so big it has consumed the planet and can no longer be classified as a hole.

[@Stephen._.Chapman]

NOT WW2, but WW1 and NOT London night, but Sheffield night.

[@jaysonedson]

I liked those jokes where the Doctor would say shit they would say back in the 60s. In my mind though I didn't listen to Capaldi's response and just acted like he was talking shit to Bill. Because fuck Bill.

[@pjgs4933]

Jason Edson Bill was great! I really liked Mackie in the role!

[@thebigdawgj]

Basically, Moffat's last episode was "HEY GUISE, DID YOU GET THIS REFERENCE TO OTHER THINGS I DID?"

[@rouka120]

Hbomberguy didn't mention any of these good moments. As someone who didn't watch this special I got a very different feel of the episode from his review. It's almost like he had a vendetta against Moffat.

[@aidan8473]

ClockWork Rat I can hardly blame him for it - he just has a different opinion on him.

[@james11norma17]

If you watch his "Sherlock is garbage and here's why video" it probably gives you a better picture about why he doesn't like Moffat(although it is an half and a half long so I won't blame if you don't').

[@strangeclaims]

ClockWork Rat I feel the same. But quinton didnt mention the bad stuff so....

[@cookieface80]

He does.

[@copycatsworld7012]

almost

[@humanexperiment5644]

tie of tje doctor still my favourite, even though i know its flawed beyond belief, the connection i have with matt smith doctor, which was what really mattered in the end, was executed perfectly with his last scene and the doctors motivation.

[@erikaatayde8919]

rewatching your video in 2020 and,hey,you got a death's head figure!!

[@bethanutsturdwell]

Ahem..the doctor WHONIVERSE..

[@cloudplayers9195]

Susans grandfather is now her grandmother

[@jacobkingmusic528]

Lovin all of those doctor who "action figure" Quinton lmao

[@ishaandw]

I love Moffat's work on Doctor Who. Even though some are not great.

[@jameswait5340]

It would have been a perfect finale if only they had subtracted the "smacked bottom" and "aren't all ladies made of glass" jokes

[@brendanirwin1986]

grow up guys, you're forgetting the era! Males of a certain age, especially at that time, were very protective of their women, and were the head of the family. Making comments about females being fragile and needing protecting was quite common, and disiplining a misbehaving child wad also common. (mind you if he acted on it words would have been exchanged) As far as I'm concerned this ending new who. Time for the next chapter "Doctor Who - Time Lady"!!! The Classic Who Ended with Slyvester McCoy, due to the big gap between them the shows are so different they may as well be 2 seperate shows

[@southernbear736]

I COME FROM THE FUTURE. HEED THY WARNING FOR THE ROUGH DOCTOR WHO THATS TO COME!

[@TheRealUnkn0wn_289]

He knows he loves it

[@MegnetaFusion]

You should do a video on the movie Journey to Promethea

[@rayvenkman2087]

Really, it's treatment of the First Doctor and by extent William Hartnell is horrid. Just plain horrible and a misuse of David Bradley's talents as he's made to play a ooc of the original doctor. The biggest problem is that the story is nonexistent and nothing worthwhile happen. They should have cut out the glass woman plot and make it more about the 12th Doctor finding his peace with the 1st Doctor helping him on that as a reminder of the simpler times where the universe wasn't a total hostile place to be in and he just went to random places by the TARDIS's accord. Also that 709 episode ago caption is cringe worthy. They could have just simply write as "A long time ago" and leave it at that, would be more fitting for the narrative.

[@619Gotenks]

In defense of Moffat. Love it. Love your work, love Coupling, love Moffat.

[@MaxMercuryAnonymous]

I actually hated the Ponds and the Weeping Angels. Moffat writes pretty decent scenarios, but the follow through is pretty subpar

[@DunnoJustLuckyIGuess]

"Moffat writes pretty decent scenarios, but the follow through is pretty subpar" ^ NAILED IT. I've been trying to put that into words for weeks now. THANK YOU. ;)

[@mrcat4508]

The angels were good in one episode only

[@xavierpravednikov8012]

What I didn’t like about the first doctor is that a few episodes ago, the 12th doctor said that times lords are the most forward thinking race in existence, and that they got rid of all gender/race roles, and all stigmas around genders and races

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

TBF immediately after Bill points out their name is still gendered

[@JBexplores]

6:47 the joke doesn’t even make any sense as the doctor was born and raised on a different planet and point in time. He’s not an old man from the sixties on earth who had traveled to the future before.

[@whatevervideos3716]

World war 1 soldier wolrd war 1

[@RVE122]

Hell ya new Quinton video! I would neglect my children to watch this!

[@williamsummy9395]

Regardless of your opinion of Moffat, you can't help but get angry when you look at his hair.

[@kg3451]

I’ve never seen Doctor Who but yes his hair is pissing me off.

[@ujustgitshrecktscrubbetter1240]

he looks like that one weirdo Jewish kid everyone ignored in school

[@cantorlok2815]

ujustgitshrecktscrub!bettergitgudeh? Uhhh

[@ujustgitshrecktscrubbetter1240]

Count Orlok Is there a problem?

[@cantorlok2815]

ujustgitshrecktscrub!bettergitgudeh? That's just a little antisemitic is all.

[@katedolphin5565]

I had no idea Moffat did the empty child i always thought that was Russell T Davies for some reason xD I loved the Christmas special and i'm really glad you made an episode about it ^_^

[@omegaaverenger112]

Oh my god you have the blue Sixth Doctor coat from Big Finish

[@thunderbirds9319]

5:00 It's actually 1966, not 1965

[@danielhickman4376]

I've watched doctor who since 2005 and still watching i haven't missed one episode most are great and plenty are bad and some are OK. a program running for over half a century will have bad episodes and make bad decisions. i hope Whittaker isn't a bad decision but i think the best part was the second half in my opinion. but another change for the show who cares it's done that since the 60s when they changed Susan to Vicky. but i hope the new writer does something better

[@bscale745]

You forgot to mention that the captain is related to the Brigadier.

[@elliot20201]

The episode was sweet in its own rights but One's sexist remarks and the face he made when Bill said she was gay, just really put me off. In-universe it makes no sense (the Doctor isn't REALLY from London 1963 obviously), and out-of-universe it still doesn't hold water because it simply wasn't written like that. One was not some overt sexist who told his female companions to hush and go back to making sandwiches or some shit all the time. One line said to his granddaughter in a heavily-maturity-themed serial is not the same thing as talking down to a woman he's only just met. And trying to shoehorn in homophobia is just idiotic. Aside from the fact that clearly no EU research was done to know that One had a gay audio companion (and this matters, because Moffat is the one who wrote the Night of the Doctor mini episode, which mentions Eight's audio companions, obviously trying to bridge the gap between audio and television), why would Gallifreyans of all people give a single shit about sexuality? When half the race has achieved Time Lord/Lady status and can change sex when they die? And knowing that most likely One won't be brought back for future multi Doctor episodes, this might be all that new fans ever see of his Doctor and then decide not to bother watching any of Hartnell's serials? Heart breaking to me. I did like Twice Upon a Time. I saw it in theaters, and I thought it was touching. It really had heart felt moments. Just that how One was written upset me in some ways. Also that Ben's actor was taller than Polly's by so much! LOL

[@jasontremayne6701]

David Bradley wasn't impersonating anyone: it was his performance, his interpretation... and extension of what HIS William Hartnell from An Adventure In Space And Time did. As someone who watched Hartnell at the time, it's insulting to label such, so... You've been told, young man! Do it again, and you'll earn yourself a smacked bottom!

[@rockysandman5489]

There's a mistake you've made, the First Doctor left not in 1965 but in 1966.

[@umbra1091]

I think the thing I personally found galling about the Anniversary episode- which is just fucking terrible- as well as the Christmas one, is Moffat's duplicity in claiming openly that he loves Doctor Who so much, and has done nothing but respect it- whilst making an effort to write the 10th and 1st Doctors in a way that feel sniping, and insulting. 10 is the same kind of egotist that 11 is, insulting people to their faces and goofing off, and 1 has that Le Funny Old Timey sexism even though it doesn't make sense for the character. Sure, he was written in the 60s, but even then, he was written progressively for the time period. Moffat allows his views and opinions on characters and certain issues to bleed into their presentation, as well as his narratives. I used to love his writing, and Silence In Library as well as the WW2 episode are cherished for me. However, I can actually look at the fact he had very strong oversight, much less money, and not the same level of indlugence as he gets in his series. Some writers /need/ constraints- and I hate to rehash an hbomberguy point here- the Sherlock pilot is a perfect example. Along with his earlier episodes in the Russel T run, it is evidence that his stories are tighter, and more memorable, and mesh well with his chosen settings when he's given shorter episodes, or is bound by time constraints. Those episodes stuck in my mind because they were different, yes, but I still knew the characters. 9 and Rose were still 9 and Rose; Martha and 10 were still Martha and 10. As showrunner, he took 6 month breaks, had an incredibly insular production staff, and took all the money the BBC threw at him. It's a crying shame, really.

[@femmefuntime]

I think in the novelization of the episode the 1st doctor’s sexist remarks were revealed to be things he was just saying to mess with 12. 1 didn’t have that major of a reaction to Bill being gay, his look kinda just looks like “oh ok” to me

[@harneevkaurdhaliwal1723]

I honestly think David Bradley looks nothing like William hartnell and the doctor falls made me bawl my eyes out so much that every time I thought about some parts that. I couldn't sleep from constant sobbing and my hair got stuck to my face I just kept hugging my TARDIS pillow

[@danielsausaman9767]

8.36 . incorrct , in truth Twice Upon a Time story features a World War 1 Captain being randomly telesport ,& 1 from world war 1 you know ,,

[@ishaandw]

Have you seen An Adventure in Space and Time with Bradley Walsh as William Hartnell. That was great.

[@ashhinman1919]

Ok but you got one thing wrong. Bill isn’t dead, she became sentient oil.

[@Pir-o]

Moffat was ok when he wasn't surrounded by "yes men". When they give him all the power he turned this show in to shit. Its the same story we had with Jorge Lucas. I barley finished those last couple seasons...

[@jessemartin7718]

thinking back, it was mostly good. just could've done without the dalek since that whole archive plot was pointless. the audience knows that's bill. the doctor should without having to travel to and possibly die on a planet completely unrelated to the rest of the story.