Legion Class Previews - Priest

[@awaken6760]

Preach video overload! Oh my nipples, the hurt! They hurt when I twist them!

[@sblade777]

O bby

[@wolflink9000]

+Awaken the Evil Ohhh yeeaa my nipplllessss, oohh yaa prreacchhherr viddeeoooosss ahhhhhhh

[@rasmuserlandsson2204]

+Awaken the Evil My friend sent me snapchats of him calling me amore and rubbing his nipples today... friend?

[@Foretelling]

+Awaken the Evil Haaaha xD

[@oinchadoomandwolfboy]

+Awaken the Evil Love that South Park episode xD

[@MrSleepzor]

Just going to watch through all of the class vids you have, very good :) thanks for this! Hopefully it will make me even more hyped for Legion!

[@Mangs1337]

I absolutely love playing Disc priest. It’s not just about spamming bubbles, a good Disc priest knows where to shield and when to shield. Regardless of what people say, the skill cap of Disc is actually very high. As holy I just blanket the raid in renews and use Circle of Healing on cooldown, as Disc I have to predict incoming damage and actually think ahead, it is by far one of the most complex healing specs to be good at. And now they are turning my favorite specc into a fucking hybrid specc? I am extremely nervous for the future of this specc, sounds like it could go to hell…

[@harthy6696]

+Mangs Well, you will still need to think ahead you get your atonements on everyone and when the damage comes you spam all your DPS. I was fearful of these changes at first too but it's basically the same sort of thing just without the bubbles. I will miss those thorough. :(

[@MagicMarty90]

Shadow Priests need an insane Mad Max talent that makes them spray their faces with silver shit.

[@MurderScenePhoto]

+Marty Blois WITNESS ME

[@Necr0Fenix]

+Marty Blois minor glyph: Chromatic lips: spray silver paint above your mouth, 30sec cd.

[@ungface]

+MurderScenePhoto MEDIOCRE

[@Silent_Oblivion]

+Marty Blois yes because silver food paint taste like tears of pain.... bring on the tears.

[@Silent_Oblivion]

+Marty Blois yes because silver food paint taste like tears of pain.... bring on the tears.

[@renancza]

WTB glyph of Holy Hand Grenade! (which makes you shout the countdown 1-2-5!)

[@bretthogan5805]

+Renan Czajkowski 3 sir!

[@smashi4088]

+Renan Czajkowski Thats the best idea I've ever heard. Send this to blizz!!

[@JoshuaRAWRR]

+Renan Czajkowski Just macro it.

[@gankedirl]

I have always loved the disc spec since I started playing and these changes just seem to make it better. I just hope they keep power word: barrier and archangel because those are fun spells to use. And Shadow gets a long lasting 40% haste buff. it pretty much gives a good/lucky priest permanent blood lust. Shadow and Disc both have some potential to be really good here.

[@bencollier1540]

PLEASE BLIZZARD, when we go insane...make us levitate...with shadowy angel wings....and tentacles. That will never get old, Ion read this and do it everyone will love.

[@sequel4]

hell yes, preach videos every day is a godsend

[@shawnwebb5261]

I cannot wait! Disc and Shadow look so, so much better. GJ Blizz!

[@ingold1470]

It does make sense that of all specs, discipline would be the one with the high skill requirement. It's almost as if the person playing it has to focus like the character does.

[@rivermagic]

Omg, I'm actually tempted to come back to wow with these changes to Disc - very interesting play style

[@TyronMakeka]

Preach is relentless with the videos fucking love it! Very tempted to start a priest with these news. Always been intrigued by holy but was discouraged to go with it because disciplin was just better. + shadow seems very interesting imo can't wait for more info.

[@wyvern716]

From what I understand about shadowmend, incoming damage eats through the 50% you are supposed to give back over time so it's extra powerful when taking consistent damage such as on the tank. Also with the void form I read that the longer you stay in void form the faster it depletes insanity so it should be impossible to maintain 100% uptime. Interested in Disc for the first time in a long time, hope it turns out well.

[@Savagerogue]

During blizzcon, a small comment by one of the dev's is that they wanted healers to be able to play with a balance of healing and damage. They want them to be able to do good damage when they over gear content, so I think the disc priest will not be the only healer capible of descent damage but it will be the only one who's healing is positively affect by thier damage (more direct healing on a smaller amout of targets due to more GCD's do damage)

[@tyoungbsa17]

Based on what we know, oblivion might be better used after void form rather than before. The way I think about it is that if you get to 100 insanity, stay in for as long as possible, stack your haste buff as high as possible, and then when it falls off, you use oblivion to jump right back into void form which would reset the insanity consumption rate and since the haste buff duration extends outside of void form, it would let you continue stacking the haste buff.

[@wyvern716]

Released the video as I was watching the hunter video. I wasnt expecting this kinda love so quickly

[@DiscipleToki]

I have been playing Disc since Vanilla and I am super hyped about the changes. I think it will be fun, interactive and allow for skill to shine if you are on your game. I am not worried about the replacement bit, I think Blizz will be watching closely and tune as needed. I am very happy with the new core of Disc, I feel like the original intent behind Disc is finally coming forward. :) For the first time I am tempted to play shadow as well :p Go Go priest of C'thulu !

[@unfknblvable5292]

What people need to remember about the new Disc spec is Atonement will be on MULTIPLE players and youll have Shields as well to augment healing, So imagine this Pre pull cast PW shield on MT they have Atonement, cast PW Radiance on a target, now 6 other players have Atonement. So 7 players now have Atonement before pull. Pull> Cast SWP on boss and now you have running hots on those 7 players with Atonement and hit Penance maybe get a 100k crit as an example, all 8 players get 50k Heals at once. Thats 2 GCDs into fight. Recast PW Shield on tank to refresh Atonement, cast Plea on players you think might take damage to give them Atonement Cast smite on boss to heal 8-10 players at same time, get a procc for Penance boom another 25k Heal on 8-10 players with a Shield on tank also *healing*. Great burst healing and also hots and keeping heals throughput going. Add in Rapture 3min CD that lets you apply PW Shield with no CD for 7 secs (i think thats right) you can get probably 10 people with bubbles/Atonement in that time. Thats how I envision Disc healing being. Only thing I think that could improve on this game play is if you could get Atonement refresh proccs: so say maybe the heal from a SWP crit renews Atonement on 50% of the targets that currently have Atonement so you wouldnt have to keep applying Atonement through Plea which would mean more uptime for DPS and healing. Also making the Atonement buff last longer, maybe 20 secs and 10 for PW Radiance respectively

[@derrickwn18]

I like the healing style of how it was back in wrath. buffs and and power word shield.

[@stevenharkema5456]

Thanks for doing this Preach! Much love.

[@aaroncruze4638]

the 1 min cd for those big heals is gonna be the thing that makes holy work. most big damage abilities from bosses occur every 45-60 secs, so these will be around for every one, while other healing classes have to wait for their turn in the rotation to use their longer 3 min cds

[@Drowsong]

So will Disc Priests be considered healers in 5-mans?

[@MrEngranaje]

+Dustin Mitchell The Grace talent lets disc priests focus more on straight healing than dps. My guess is that we'll pick certain talents to be nearly pure healers for 5-mans and other talents to dps in a raid to heal.

[@aDepressedRobot]

+Dustin Mitchell I run disc in 5 mans now and all I do is atonement heal and bubble. Works fine when I do 35k dps as disc. Main spec is shadow.

[@denhaak88]

+Jacob Albarez If you're doing 35k as Disc in dungeons you're clearly way overgeared for the content in mind.

[@Ixnatifual]

Depends. In a challenging encounter they are unlikely to be able to sustain the tank unless they or the tank greatly outgear the encounter. But then dungeons are usually greatly undertuned so perhaps good players will be able to main heal as disc priests anyway.

[@ShadeShockGaming]

+Dustin Mitchell Don't think its gonna matter. When i leveled my Disco i was healing and topping DPS charts at the same time in MOP. probabaly cause of baddies and people that don't care about the dungeon but still. i wouldn't worry about 5 mans. not much will change there.

[@TheBeardedn00b]

It was mentioned in the Q&A that thier goal for serenitys power is about 50% of the targets hp, 100% with a crit.

[@bansheeownz]

So it seems like multiple Disc priests won't disrupt each other, and one Disc priest won't disrupt everyone else. This new Disc playstyle really intrigues me. Pulling from holy and shadow spells for your core healing rotation is a really cool concept and I can't wait to see how it plays. Holy has something cool going for it too. Balancing two one minute cooldowns based on what is needed by the encounter will require a real understanding of the encounter to use your major heals at the right moment. I hope that Serenity really is the massive heal you're making it out to be. On the level of 2 saving graces and no terrible debuff. If so, Disc will definitely have some competition. Shadow in my eyes can never do wrong. Because no matter what happens, it's still the coolest looking at the end of the day. Many shadow priests nowadays though have been talking about how they were weak this expansion. In that case, I'm all for a rework. And if they can look even cooler in the process, win-win.

[@That_River]

Disc sounds...tricky. A dps/healer hybrid sounds cool, but I think it's going to be too slow. In order to heal someone effectively, you have to cast a heal on them, switch to a mob and deal damage. If there are multiple people that need healing, this is going to be really stressful and potentially too slow to heal effectively. I fear people will die before the disc priest is ready to heal properly, or another healer has already done the job. A tricky balancing act and one I'm not sure is necessary. After all, a Jack of All Trades is a Master of None. A hybrid dps/healer will possibly not do enough of either to be useful.

[@Knife1437]

+Kael Thor Personally I'd just like to see Disc become like paladins use to be with (vanilla/tbc) blessings. I see no reason for Disc to be a healing spec. I mean yes there is reason for Disc now that Holy is losing Chakra and bubbles but that in itself is stupid. Chakra is what made Holy Priests the healer to answer all scenarios and considering it's a prime class, aka Warrior, Mage, Priest, Rogue & Hunter it should not become so pigeon holed it's meant to be versatile. Argh so much rage over losing Chakra, it was one of the most impressive class additions to the game. Atonement just looks messy, maybe if it's a 45 second buff but 15 seconds is sloppy unless you can buff multiple people at the same time with macro functions. It's a poor game mechanic at this very moment, I just hope it gets changed in some way, shape or form. I'm still annoyed they removed Inquisition from Ret. Dumbing down gameplay is rage worthy.

[@That_River]

+Knife1437 I don't remember how palas were in vanilla and tbc, how were they different i.e what did the blessings do? But I do agree that dumbing down gameplay is idiotic, for any class. Choice makes a class fun to play over longer time. If all I have available is a few abilities I have to use in a set way, it's not fun, but if I have several abilities that I can choose between from my judgement of the situation, that sounds a lot more enjoyable.

[@Knife1437]

Kael Thor Might was +AP, Kings was +all stats, Wisdom was +mana regen, I think? The point was as pointless as buffs seem, it makes a class or spec relevant to a group dynamic. It's why as a Hunter you had to choose a specific pet for a purpose like a Wolf for the AOE buff. The point if anything is that no matter how insignificant a game mechanic would seem from a quick glance, the effect it has on team play and purpose is everything. Every class and spec needs a niche and reason to a valuable part of a raid group or arena team. The amount of class and spec cross over is cancer to the end game experience. If they want to continue to develop the class fantasy idea they need to revert to these old type designs. Regardless of how pointless it seemed pre-buff nerf to have to buff, it played an integral role to feeling like you had a purpose other than Tank/Healer/DPS. There is a reason every MMORPG has a buff system. I mean Professions is another topic that needs to really come into fashion again. I'm sorry but an RPG is still a stats game that means Professions, Items & Buffs. The moment you take that out of the game you start removing optimisation from the meta.

[@jaqenhghar7218]

+Kael Thor a Jack of All Trades is a Master of None...or a master of all.

[@luciussulla2641]

+Kael Thor It sounds really hard and complicated...until you get an add on like Heal Bot. I'm presently working on leveling a disc priest up (I main a paladin, but not sure what I'm going to main in legion) and with something like healbot, Disc looks like it's going to be easy. All my heals can be linked to my mouse buttons, I just click the addon to apply to who needs, and in the mean time my target can be an enemy and my 1-4 keys are my damage. Sure, I'll have to learn to run two seperate things, but it will just be which finger am I using right that second. The fact that I won't be able to bubble span will free up a lot of my cast time to do damage.

[@Jaysthudandblunder]

Very excited IF they go through with Disc changes. Bored shirtless with bubble healing. Was so easy to get good numbers with disc especially if you understand mechanics of fights. Now you have to understand the mechanics AND be aware. May that with this short term beacon, that it becomes more useful as a raid heal rather than a tank heal. Will SWP become the renew? Bubbles proactive, plea dmg spells reactive. Did I read wrong or was the shadow mend a 100% heal with 50% of the heal ticking off on expiration ? But that 50% is reduced by damage taken ? If so this could be a very good newb filter, Say for example you pop this when the target is at or near full health, the overheal would not act as the 50% soak ? Therefore when the spell expires 50% comes off the target's health without benefitting the target initially. That could make for a very grumpy tank having been nuked for a chunk of health by their own healer! One playstyle that immediately springs to mind is to pop the mend and then time PWS to be active when the mend expires, let the shield take the dmg, assuming that the target hasn't taken 50% of the heal in dmg in the first place. And if they have then the target has a bubble. Random thoughts late at night, so logical flaws abound no doubt... thanks for the rundowns btw :)

[@NickMK]

Shadow priest are straight up Lovecraftian now. Old gods, tentacles, insanity...I like it

[@Blackfairy0420]

I love holy and played it cause i just want to be in the minority when it comes to Disc vs Holy. But now that I've seen how Disc Gameplay is in Legion (I hope they will continue this path). I'm gonna go DISC!!! its seems super fun to play..

[@michaelhenry4845]

PLEASE don't.

[@volrag]

Hm, from the phrasing of shadow mend do you think damage from external sources would also contribute to the damage limit to remove the DoT? Might be really good for the tanks in that case. Then again, also depends how much does mitigation interfere with this.

[@Ozten-gg]

Mage, hunter and Priest videos done and out already? You sir are on the fucking ball! Awesome vid thanks Preach :D P.s Love the editing style you used in these videos so easy to digest the info, not trying to kiss ass here just giving honest feedback.

[@NickMK]

Holy shit, that patreon cash is showing. This is great

[@JesterJones]

Hey guys! :) anyone know where I can find a store for preach apparel?

[@Ecxify]

SERENITY NOW! was the first thing that came in mind.

[@juliendebroissia]

damn... Legion is the first expac that REALLY makes me want to make a shitload of alts and get them to max lvl

[@Haywire5714]

Hi Preach, having played disc at a high level I'll say that the increased difficulty of the spec while also keeping it's proactive nature is very exciting (not saying that disc isn't hard to play at a high level in WoD). My one concern is that disc seems to be a much more interesting and involved spec than holy at this time; in fact disc could go live like this and it would still be a very complete spec even without the many talents that they are going to add. This makes me wonder if the artifact talents will be interesting enough to significantly change how the spec plays or if they will just be "tacked on" so to speak. If the latter happens then things are not looking so good for holy (like every expansion lol).

[@Sam-Collins]

i am so Happy for Disc Priests who wanted to have it easy now they have to work like the rest of us

[@yanakievful]

Preach I get your point on the shadow priest but to be fare - this is alore more complicated than what we have at the moment as core. - Currently we have VT, Power Word Pain, Mind Blast on CD, DP when about to cap on orbs and flay as a filler - all the debt of the spec came from the tallents - whether it is positioning for halo, or dot weaving or simple clarity of power or auspisios spirits or anything actually - it all came from the tallents - I like it where they are going with this since it has a flow of the spells that previously was gone but as you said it man it will depent alot on the tallents.

[@adamwilliams3336]

My main worry here is for Disc Priests is for the 5 man content, especially with the new Diablo G-Rift like mode for dungeons. Will it be able to act as a healer, or will is act as a dps, or will it be neither? After all, when using the dungeon finder we have 3 roles to choose from, where does the disc end up?

[@jallagunnar12]

As someone who has recently been trying to learn how to become a better disc priest, and hopefully main as a healer hearing how much it will change, and how much harder it will become to do it right is a big downer for me. But i still have hopes it will be fine and that a huge rework like this might even boost me from being so far behind everyone else playing disc.

[@Succath80]

Yay i was hoping you would make those i`m looking forward to what you think of the changes they announced :D

[@ericcarlsson5207]

They said in a q&a that Holy Word: Sanctify will be balanced to heal proximately 50% of total health of a player (dunno if they meant tanks or just regular dpsers/healers).

[@snkyfox17]

Holy word:serenity was said at blizzcon to heal for half the targets maximum hp and on crit to heal for entire life total.

[@Minosen]

The changes on Priest makes me wanna play the class, cant wait to see what talents and artifact can give to the class. Always love the idea of priests but never played it cus its allways been disc disc disc and I haaaate disc as it is now. Just hope Holy will be good

[@RandySpaceblast]

I'm excited for shadow, probably going to be my new main. Seems on point thematically and mechanically for what their shooting for.

[@Irraticate]

I actually like the base skills for specs so far. Or at least, I like it as long as Blizz can include good talent skills and skills from Artifacts to fill out the rotation. If they fail that, then the base skills won't work. But I'm not saying something people don't know. I've heard people complain and complain about the base skills, but I like them.

[@CrystalblueMage]

So Disc do damage to heal, while others heal to get some free time to do damage. They said healer damage generally is gonna matter (and be expected in the tuning), so the "full 50/50" probably isn't in comparison to 100/0, but maybe more like 70/30 compared to 80/20?

[@brettpierce5225]

Wow, depending on how well Shadow Priests do in the rankings at the start of the expansion I might roll my first one ever. I can't stand healing either, it literally puts me to sleep, but the changes to Disc priest and putting Atonement back in the forefront with a chance for a high skill cap and high reward seems very enticing.

[@Gotae27]

Preview for shadow said mastery adds the amount of insanity and the damage dealt by mindblast, SW:P, VT, and SW:D so it actually has 1 more button for the executes still and I'm interested how that will go about since it says it doesnt get effected by void form. maybe we'll be able to generate more insanity while insane with SW:D? thoughts anyone?

[@jaqenhghar7218]

Almost sounds like it's going to be similar to the end of SoO when any Heroic/Mythic level raiding shadow priest was haste capped to the GCD. I enjoyed playing shadow at the GCD, it was fast and fun. With the stacking of Crit (in AS) over haste for WoD the play style doesn't feel nearly as fast.

[@jeffreysykes5816]

I'm still learning... I've been watching your videos on the shaman and priest. I'm having a hard time picking between the 2.. My guild needs heals and rdps I love both the classes.. But really don't know what to pick as my main and alt.. Any advice?

[@D1str1ct]

they wont let us gain insanity while the bar is draining, itl be just like the monk set on d3. so we have lost dp, ms and swd? instead of a dagger they should of given us a big ass spell book on a chain thats wrapped around us that levitates and opens up when we enter combat and starts having weird shit fly out it as we cast spells. also having different animations for different spells. when do you think we will get more info on the classes preach?

[@EvanRHoward]

I think that Disc might be good for the new 5man dungeons. where you need more dmg and it will be easier to keep atonement up on 5 people. Holy might become the spec for new healers. little easier to do what you want to do with that spec: Heal.

[@jacobstrasbaugh5761]

I'll be trying out disc, I love the idea of what they are doing to it! Maybe I'll main it if I like it a lot :o

[@MikeDePasquale]

Shadow's new talent CD would be wasted as an opener. It would be better to use it after the initial Void Form is nearing an end in order to extend the Haste buff. Based off of this info, we will still be a ramp up class: the same problem we had with the Shadow Orbs.

[@RowanWeir]

Big thing to remember before saying "oh, this class/spec is way to simple." We'll be getting a large amount of actives through the talents, if you want more complicated rotations that's going to be how you get there.

[@iriso2882]

I 'm soooo happy about the holy priest changes!

[@RTJPodcast]

kind of hoping discs do less healing than the other classes, because if theyre doing the same healing but with damage on top of that, it will ruin other healers because its free damage but as mentioned, if its 50-50 damage and healing that might put disc priests into an awkward niche of a half class that might not fit into many raids

[@hankfistgun7340]

Disc sounds so interesting. If Shadow is fun and not boring (dear god I hope it's the former) then this class will make for a solid choice in main during Legion. Sounds like they spent about half a minute working on Holy before moving on, though. Hahahahaa.

[@williamramsay7448]

I think that having Holy priests being the "ultimate" healer for being a priest is a really cool idea. The rework on Disc will be very interesting. I have always enjoyed atonement, of being able to damage to do healing. The Shadow priest is more what I play, and now there is such a very basic form of shadow now. It seems that Blizz is trying to reduce the buttons on the bars again, by making things more "basic".

[@B4K4157]

I quit playing my monk because keeping track of who had Renewing Mists and their health deficit (Plus dodge fire, plus prepare for boss abilities, plus melee dps when you get a chance for extra chi) was just melting my brain. Couldn't handle it. This new disc looks similar, except you've got like 4 different uplifts + a debuff to monitor (SW:P), and renewing mists is spread manually. At least you don't have to be in melee! I love the synergy between the DoT that your shadow heal leaves and the atonement you should already be doing: great little Ah-ha! moment there.

[@TheKroganMaster]

Shadow sounds amazing, the voidform change makes me want to play my spriest again. Let hope we scale better and do better damage. I also hope the voidform is actually a form and not a easy way out. I mean who doesn't want to become tentacle hentai! >.>

[@3lit3gn0m3]

Disc is the only spec I really care about, as my priest is 2nd or 3rd in importance to me. That said, I think the change being made is fantastic; I wonder if multiple priests can benefit from a single atonement. Highly doubtful. I think they've done really well to hybridize them, but almost too well. As you said, non-hybrids may take their place due to the sheer performance difference, but for non-hardcore guilds I see it as being a good thing. As a shaman since vanilla, I can attest to the hybrid role being both elevated and shafted at the same time, and hope the trade-off is worth it for priests. My main concern, is PvP. Will they be OP like resto druids were at one point? Or will they simply not measure up? PvP has been frustrating for the last 2 expansions, and I know you're almost entirely PvE oriented, so I'll leave it at that.

[@SteveMan92]

Regarding that "miraculous" heal that is Holy Word: Serenity, I believe the stated amount for that heal is close to half a health bar, non-crit. That's in the same wowhead article that you were pulling your tweets about talents from

[@milenasoloduhina1726]

Description of a quake situation at 7:50 ... Am I the only one who still thinks "pop hymn"? can't imagine them deleting those two spells...

[@MrRoddy35]

preach do you think the disc spec will unbalance 5 mans? being able to heal everyone with one mind blast comes in handy??

[@RsinRC]

Void Form's haste will stay for 20 secs AFTER the form drops. if Void forms lasts 8 secs then it'll be 16% haste for 20 secs

[@jonnyswift1646]

+RsinRC yeah but there are already ways to extend voidform. Some examples are the talent that gives you max insanity, and heavy add fights where you can keep dots rolling feeding you more insanity and more MB procs.

[@D1str1ct]

+Jonny Swift i think its gonna be like the monk set in d3 where once you reach 100 you cant get any insanity till that 100 is drained and then you start the process all over again.

[@jonnyswift1646]

True it could be like that. We'll just have to wait and see!D1str1ct

[@noctoi]

Ooooh Disc... I'm lamenting the loss of the Bubble priest, but that atonement! It reminds me of what atonement USED to be like :D Makes me want to play my priest again.

[@senkoukura2011]

i main a disc priest and i am not happy about this change at all, for as long as i can recall bubbles have been the disc priests signiture move and a great way to keep ahead of the damage if you get like a 5 sec drop in everyone taking damage. plus now we are going to have to multi task, look away from the raid's health to attack an add and someone could die or consintrate on someone health and a add that needs to die could use its ability and wipe the raid. all this is in addition to having to make sure your not standing in fire or you are behind a rock when an aoe goes off or doing another raid mechanic. at this point they might as well expect us to tank the fight in addition to doing all the other stuff >_>

[@oOofrosticleoOo]

i have a question of how will disc priests work in a dungeon? cause if they do 50% healing of every other healer shouldnt everyone just die because a disc cant keep up? or will dungeons just not need that much healing? doesnt seem like they should be able to cope without other healers

[@itzlegend081]

do you know if SW Death generates void points, let alone is still in the game? that gives some huge boost near the end of boss fights.

[@kassieeppig6315]

I was a smite healer all the way till Panda land were I did bubble in 5 man and I only bubbled when a holy priest or other healers in raid needed someone to reduce damage so I bubbled 75% of the time. I worry for if there is all the other healers, having a healer that also deps then why take a disc priest?

[@Zorak50]

My worry about disc is first i'm going to have to place my atonement then cast a damaging ability and then a heal will go off, thats 2 extra steps to get an heal off. Sometimes damage can happen really fast.

[@og.StudMuffin]

did they actually say that spells not shown on the overview are gone...? like circle of healing for example.

[@DPsiEta]

Is nobody going to discuss how incredibly well Preach can say "bubble" so rapidly?

[@sddulloo]

wow preach don't overwork yourself too much. thanks though 😌

[@Plusimurfriend]

+Sulaiman Dulloo nothing to do in wow for a year. and no new content till beta. blizzard are testing the waters and releasing some of their ideas to see the reactions. i think his videos and everyone's comments will influence how the specs are going to be played on release. he is doing good work trying to save his favorite game. WoD dealt a huge blow to Wow and the game is getting old. we will need a miracle :/ but so far, nothing new came. same thing each year. a few dungeons a few raids, maybe some pvp content and some dailies.

[@sddulloo]

+Plusy wod shot the already dying man in the head. if legion doesn't live up to the hype that'll be the final nail in the coffin tbh (I still play wod but only to prepare for legion) if legion does fail, hopefully by then vrmmorpg will be a thing (aincrad rift maybe) so I wont care

[@DarkSlideRC]

I look forward to seeing how disc performs in 5 man dungeons, could be seriously OP for these new challenge modes

[@unfknblvable5292]

+Outdoor Thor I was thinking the same thing, get atonement on all players with PW Shield on tank and Plea or PW Radiance on rest and just Smite and Penance the shit out of the baddies. Weaving Plea and PW Shield to keep atonement up! I can see Disc being the go to class for healers in players pushing realm and world ladder spots..

[@haydez6938]

Someone probably mentioned this but they said in a Q&A they said that holy priests will get one huge heal that'll heal for 50% of the targets hp noncrit and if it crits it will heal for 100% of their hp. Sooo.. I'm assuming that heal is HW: Serenity.

[@adamshank3435]

whats the set/transmog being used by that priest in the background

[@dimondblade]

as a MW monk looking at disc priest. Will we at least still be the split healer ? being able to switch from full healing to dps/healing or because disc exist are we just loosing the dps/healing componet.

[@mermaidjaffa9135]

Any news on whether the default UI and raid frames will get an update?

[@AndersMurberg]

soo... how will disc do dungeons? will they be viable for challenge modes and raids?

[@rusudenes8549]

Preach did i get it wrong? Blizz said that along the talents u will get from 4to 5 new mods to play the class, so what we see here is the basic of the game play, that will be maybe even 100% change the game play whit the talents (maybe even artifact weaponds) and u have atleast 4 ways to play it difrent. Its like every class has 4-5 paths in there own talent sistem, and some ppl dont get that or did i understood it werrryyyy wrong??. soz for bad english

[@dreadnought703]

sitting here playing my priest and i hear " morally opposed to the use of shadow magic " *looks down at shadow word pain*

[@PowerOfDoi]

Well, it's looking like Holy will be the go to spec in legion simply due to ease of use. The problem with disc as it is being shown right now, complexity asside, is that it will probably shine on any fights with an increased dmg taken debuff on the boss, so things like horridon, or gorefiend feast of souls, a GOOD disc priest might get to the point where it can solo heal those phases and your other healers have nothing to do (sound familiar?) but outside of those whats their point? I assume a regular dps would be better and regular healer would be better. As far as shadow goes from what i'm seeing you have 0 controll over when you pop into voidform, and every single spell you cast grants insanity so outside of STOPPING DPS you can't throttle it so you might see situations like , "doomcaller just spawned? aw i just dropped out of void form..." reminds abit of Gnarr from League of Legends. Then again you only have 100 insanity to generate and your mastery increases insanity generation, do we get to a point where we won't even pop out of voidform for more than a few seconds?

[@naywils]

Damn Poor holy priest, hope they dont mess it up

[@KianaWolf]

Disc sounds like it'll stay about the same as it now in terms of fun, at least to me: God awful in dungeons, tons of fun in raids. I was considering retiring my priest because I just didn't have the raw healing to keep up with what tanks wanted. Then I queued for LFR one day because, hey, I was out of things I wanted to do on my main that day. Massively fun. Though that's only LFR, I know. But my priest is far from my main: I play her when I want something different from my usual and she delivers well. (Also surprisingly fun to solo.) I suspect I'll wind up queueing as DPS while disc when leveling.

[@matthewfraser4092]

Just me that doesn't rly like the spriest artefact weapon?

[@Mewfan]

Sad that they removed chakras. I don't like the style that have now or even in MOP, but I really liked the way it worked in early cata where you had to almost go out if your way to switch chakras, but gained a ton from it if done correctly. Not so sure about the playstyle now with the 1 min cds. It seems like such a dpsy playstyle almost like a combat rogue where you just have to keep casting and spamming shit even though there isn't a huge need for it. However I'm really excited about disc and can't wait to try it out. It also brings back the offensive playstyle in pvp which they had pre-mop.

[@TheSirtempest]

check out some of the blizzcon interviews, they mentioned disc would be 70/30 heal/damage

[@MaybeFactor]

Disc sounds clunky and dogshit... looks like I finally get to switch back to holy for healing. Did they mention whether disc is supposed to be able to put up similar numbers to other healers? or are they part of a new niche of dps/heals where they do some portion of each?

[@jenat82]

Hmmm... can't imagine trying to heal a dungeon as Disc will be easy. I'm interested to try Disc out, but I doubt I can pull that off in a 5-man, especially if I am trying to learn the spec. So what..? I would have to wait to try it out until gear enough for raiding? I can't use the spec to level in dungeons. I love the idea of me dotting up mobs while trying to keep atonement on tanks. Interesting for sure. I went to playing holy eventually cos I just hated the disc thing. But my priest has been duel spec holy/disc since cata where I would swap specs depending on if I was the only disc or fights like Spine where I preferred to be holy. I also enjoyed disc more for 10-man and holy for 25s then.

[@doomblackdragon]

I hope void form has some debuff. Requiring you to manage it. Like you can have a random chance to hit a friendly. Something that would need to you drop out of void form. As preacher says. It sounds like it could be very boring.

[@boomchickn]

RIP devouring plague.

[@AskTheAIOracle]

I think disc seems awesome

[@unfknblvable5292]

+jardar westling nordbotten Agreed

[@Balubelu]

Disc sounds very interesting to me, really nice changes.

[@SelectHawk]

Liking the priest changes, although I liked the ways the chakras used to work. Holy priest was fun this expac imo, it just got massively overshadowed by disc, similar to what happened in MoP (not as bad though)

[@FromeoDaBes]

@Preach Gaming I thought they said somewhere that disc would be 70% healing 30% damage. not 50/50.

[@juliendebroissia]

you sure? I thought I saw them say it was 50/50

[@slayer3to10]

+julien de broissia they said 50/50 at gamescom. it was 70/30 at blizzcon.

[@Jabeckham94]

So to crash course the changes. Holy: Back to being a good healer. Disc: Hybrid of damage and healing. Just like the monk version, no one while use this and just go holy. Shadow: Demonology 2.0

[@PirateCoveAdventure]

what about adding a buff to atonement that increases the targets damage by a percentage? suddenly the 50/50 healer dps is alot more desirable.

[@javalapa8952]

I think these new spells sound interesting, I often felt like with a holy priest, if there was massive incoming damage, you couldn't deal with it super well, so hopefully these spells help counteract those moments. Nothing in their tool kit heals for anything this expansion, and in raids they became a renew turret with CoH when it was off CD. Im going to miss chakras even though in WoD they were super boring and dumbed down.Although hopefully disc isnt an auto include into every raid this xpac