Leo talks X870E & 800-series chipsets, new AGESA 1.2.0.2!

[@KitGuruTech]

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[@FrankLeCross-fo5kr]

Thanks for removing some, it g ets on my nerves

[@justinhowe8322]

03:35 The latency heat map was interesting to listen to, thanks Leo

[@Andrew-ks7zj]

That board breakdown at the start with the highlights was useful, I was kinda confused what was changing and now I know its USB 4 - I care even less!

[@jxblack34]

I am excited to see the boards

[@Edward001]

X3D with DDR5 8000 - its keeping me up at night , I hope it doesnt suck like the other stuff they already released

[@KingBentPins]

Dude i cant even get 6k to run on the x670E Asus hero ive has the Carbon wifi and the Hero the older models before these either two bad boards or two bads CPUs cause ive had nothing but stuttering and awful stability.

[@fletcher3431]

The board breakdown was really useful, hard to get info like that in columns with a bit of guidance. USB 4 - whats the difference between 3? its a bit faster I assume

[@TheSjuris]

Thunderbolt.

[@BlaiseMiller14]

Thanks Leo, good overview. appreciate the time

[@KitGuruTech]

No worries!

[@BlaiseMiller14]

@@KitGuruTech RIght!

[@dark_matt3r_]

6:07 - 6:23 THANK YOU again.

[@maximilianRodriguez7917]

Thanks Leo good breakdown, looking forward to ur reviews

[@ogcarterdc9692]

Thanks for the chipset breakdown.

[@KitGuruTech]

No worries!

[@ogcarterdc9692]

@@KitGuruTech

[@Ernest3834]

8000mhz memory , interested to see the latencies on that and if it makes any difference at all in the real world when gaming

[@danieljames3741]

AGESA 1.2.0.2 - an update to the extension on the warranty with 10% extra performance? wow

[@SahilkhureshiJamnagar]

Thanks for the update Leo, good info !

[@KitGuruTech]

No problem 👍

[@kendrickMartinez4238]

Windows 11 - more updates? well isnt that a change. wasnt expecting that.

[@Austin023]

05:30 that is some expensive memory

[@nightcorepeter]

Nvidia 5000 series and AMD X3D, only stuff worth worrying about lately

[@vikasgovani]

MSI board looks by far the best of the trio you have there. I am no chance of spending 600-800 dollars on a motherboard. Not sure what ASUS are smoking

[@johnerikson2443]

It’s rather expensive. 😮

[@TheSjuris]

Asus had the same prices for their x670e boards.

[@Draakh]

Leo, when are the new X3D processors released?

[@grayson8414]

Thats some nice looking boards - Crosshair was always a good board

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes it has a solid history

[@grayson8414]

@@KitGuruTech Ya you are Right!

[@NoahLife97]

Great video Leo 👍

[@Nelson-gv1mc]

MSI first - looking forward to that board review

[@andrzejbania5612]

Can't wait to see if there is any benefit using next-gen graphics on these boards. Dominic did an in-depth video a couple of years ago, that showed almost no benefit moving from Gen 3 to Gen 4 ? Wish everything was quicker and more overclockable!

[@proklet4694]

Can't wait for review and 8000mhz ram benchmarks:)

[@KitGuruTech]

Coming soon !

[@jeremiahtech3971]

AMD are busy with so many launches - dont think any of them have gone over very well to be honest, hoping the X3D processors do a bit better for them

[@sanvi7183]

X870E chipset looks quite complicated

[@DavidLeBon-qq9vr]

Thanks Leo, looking forward to checking out the board reviews in the coming weeks

[@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp]

They wont be too impressive as a new 'platform;' but some look like good boards on their own merit.

[@KitGuruTech]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@dark_matt3r_]

Thanks, Leo! I’ve been nervous thinking I would need a new X870E to take advantage of Zen 5 8000 speeds, so knowing I can still do it on X670E with a bios update is extremely relieving to hear! You’re the best, bro!

[@EvaMorris3718-g2z]

Cant wait for the X870E reviews!

[@KitGuruTech]

Coming soon

[@Hudson234]

800 series chipsets - are they really worth upgrading to at all?

[@raffaellosiciliani4365]

AMD seem to be very hands off on this one, any reason why? are they just moving on already?

[@TRKINGYTGAMING]

THanks Leo, looking forward to seeing those three motherboards soon

[@KitGuruTech]

On the way !

[@paulomarf628]

Hopefully you guys can get your hands on some Asrock boards too..

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes that’s the plan 👍🏻

[@xulkxgzgl]

Hey Leo, looking forward to see the mobo reviews - not sure this is a wonderfully exciting time in the world of tech, but at least we get to see some new boards

[@mdqmusic9]

Get the reviews done already !

[@stevenbryant8445]

the chipsets look like nothing really massively moved forward over the current gen

[@Wilfred4815]

USB 3 and USB 4- whats different?

[@MahendarThakor-ou1kx]

thanks Leo, love your presentations on this, breaks down a lot of the mystery for those of us who dont live this stuff day to day

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Daniel-zl9im]

Aorus board looks great, Elite is a good board

[@WarrenHernandez5833]

Windows 11 - until that gets sorted, its hard to get any kind of data that makes sense or stays true for more than a week. its up and down like a nuns knickers

[@ryanrichardson7285]

The 8000 memory support seems the most interesting to me, I mean USB 4 - who cares about that? seriously? anyone?

[@rahulmadkami116]

I found this a great resource for updates and info I wasnt really following it either. thank you

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@andrea8723]

Crosshair Hero at £600-£700, what is the point, and people complain that a whole PS5 Pro is the same price. hilarious

[@billy9245]

Seems like a really small update - will the new X3D processors work ok on the last chipset? or are there compromises?

[@KitGuruTech]

Of course we cannot tell until we see the new CPU but it seems it is the CPU and AGESA combo that matters, rather than the X870 or X670 part. Leo

[@billy9245]

@@KitGuruTech Okay!

[@nasirff3319]

Thanks for the coverage, very useful

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad we helped

[@EvaMorris3718-g2z]

Thank you for the great videos as always Leo!

[@RobertWilliams776-c9k]

efficiency is good, but the core to core latency optimisations is so non relevant to the gaming audience its not even worth mentioning

[@weston1701]

seems like such a minor shift

[@sarveshmulay1089]

GSKILL memory is epic, hope you get your hands on some of the new 8000 stuff soon

[@Adigamingwithmaskkannan3464]

Thanks Leo - waiting with baited breath for X3D processors

[@Neonmirrorblack]

"Bated" 😛 Think "abated".

[@lolly_bread]

@@Neonmirrorblack He was just baiting someone to correct him and you obliged.

[@Neonmirrorblack]

@@lolly_bread 😂

[@bobsmithson8592]

It’s a bait fest 😂

[@KitGuruTech]

You and me both!

[@laggmonstret]

Cool that you are testing the new memory speeds, exactly what I want to have an answer for! Looking forward to the full review :D The MSI board looks like the better for the money if even none of them are particulary cheap. But one thing that stood out from another reviews is the ASUS onboard sound that seems to be better then any other when it comes to noise levels and output gain. Maybe most not care about that but for that struggles with heavy driven headphones that's a big point!

[@KitGuruTech]

Coming soon!

[@bani_yt-1]

I like how Leo explains this in ways we peasants can understand it, I dont think this launch looks to be wonderfully exciting, but if we get good boards and hopefully good new 3D processors, yay!!

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks !

[@jameskane6273]

Whats different with these boards? new USB support? is that it?

[@OrinGee]

Dual chipsets: x870e=x670e+usb4+wifi7 / Single chipset: x870=b650+PCIE5.0+m.2 Gen5+usb4+wifi7. x800s have insane VRM as well as heatsink which most people don't really need. Some have better audio chip or thicker PCB. x(b)600s and x(b)800s use the SAME chipset. I might be wrong but literally what they are.

[@GulaabKihori]

Thanks Leo, waiting for your reviews to see how the platform looks, even if its early days

[@KitGuruTech]

You and me both!

[@SanjayRathodofficial6419]

That MSI board looks gorgeous, i have had my eye on it for a while

[@Wyatt775]

Zen 5 major disappointment so far, Maybe X3D will rectify that. but I am not confident they will

[@huxley3775]

Leo stop teasing, lets see the content !

[@freddieholmes5581]

Thanks Leo, you look quite bored in this video, its how I feel about this launch

[@4thofjuly-fk4oq]

Well, will be interesting to see what the three big mobo companies do in the coming months. that MSI board looks pretty good. wasnt expecting you to review new ASUS boards too

[@domenico7561]

Will 8000 memory actually run 1:1 on the new processors?

[@KitGuruTech]

That is pretty much the point of AGESA 1202, in the context of DDR5-8000. Faster memory speed and faster performance where previously you might lose performance. Leo

[@domenico7561]

@@KitGuruTech Right!

[@ManatoshSingha]

Good video thanks Kitguru - looking forward to the MSI review

[@KitGuruTech]

Coming soon!

[@robertmyers6488]

Looking forward to it Leo.

[@RobFisherUK]

Seems like the chipset doesn't do much but some of the boards seem nicer than tbe X670E versions. I like extra USB and convenience features.

[@sabelli33]

I hope you make a good review between these motherboards and choose one with the best price, quality and features!👍👍👍👍

[@jamest484]

AMD are not focused on this launch at all, its a minor thing, even for them

[@Level_Up_Nation]

I want one of these x870 for my new build, but not sure whatto get 😅 I am a streamer play new gen games while streaming,not sure what would be best. Stuck between Hero $700 USD, TAICHI lite $424 USD or carbon $500 USD 🤷

[@jaygarabaking7935]

I like Leo, always very clear and logical in his analysis

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks he will be happy to hear that

[@DenishRathod-mx1lo]

Good info Leo, thanks

[@KitGuruTech]

You bet

[@rahu662]

I want new memory, I am interested in some reviews of the new 8000 stuff. Even if it is massively expensive

[@MartinOlminkhof]

Just looked at the prices in Australia, there's no way I'm upgrading to an X870 board

[@KitGuruTech]

How expensive are they over there ?

[@MartinOlminkhof]

@@KitGuruTech Well the Strix X870-F costs $929, that's about what the top tier motherboards used to cost.

[@madsuperhero1]

Thanks Leo, prices are redonculous! 😒

[@KitGuruTech]

They aren’t cheap !

[@JulianTurner2019]

£500+ is insane, I started sweating when I saw that 😂

[@SarahBytesBack-s4e]

It's truly shocking, right!?! Wonder what the justification is...

[@jamesm568]

I'm looking at the MSI Pro to upgrade to AM5 for the 9800 X3D. Hopefully I can do it for less than $1,500 as I know the RAM is going to at least be $500.

[@SarahBytesBack-s4e]

How much of a performance boost can be expected if i upgrade from an x670 to x870?

[@andrzejbania5612]

Looks like not much 😢

[@Chamar120]

Three killer looking motherboards in various price sectors. The Gigabyte one appeals to me the most out of the three

[@KitGuruTech]

Any reason why ?

[@Scxe]

Hello! How does the new AGESA affect the ryzen 7000 series?

[@DineshRana-km3ep]

X870E looks great but I dont think its worth upgrading from the previous platform to this one - especially for the cost. The new X3D processors and how they work will be key to upgrading

[@KitGuruTech]

X670E to X870E would make little sense , however X570 to X670E or X870E is a good question Leo

[@amdforlife5591]

When are the reviews of the boards coming ? This week ? 😎

[@KitGuruTech]

Asap !

[@napalmarsch]

after seeing all the x870e tests that a x670e is all i need

[@treyquattro]

I'm also a big fan of MSI Carbon - have a Z690 - but no longer interested in RGB-everything (Tomahawk is my probable choice now for that reason)

[@sahilblogm3m3m3]

Thanks Leo, might treat myself to a new system next year when nvidia release their new GPUS, long overdue.

[@georgebrown2974]

USB 4 seems so much of a nothing addition for most people in the gaming sector

[@JulianTurner2019]

The price for me is insane but its almost sale season 🤞

[@SimonBennett-fw6zq]

Price is definitely looking like a big pain point for them judging by the other comments 😂

[@SimonBennett-fw6zq]

But it is overkill the way these companies mark up their newest tech for there to be little benefit to the consumer if they're already using the previous 'latest' tech

[@andrzejbania5612]

Motherboards for the price of a complete laptop feels mad

[@PCPro2017]

More work to make a board though ​@@andrzejbania5612

[@jjlw2378]

Is Zen 6 going to be on AM5? I would hate to buy a $500+ X870E mobo just for 1 generation of CPU. It sure would be nice if AMD would announce official support for the next generation processor on AM5.

[@mtsarkful]

They announced a while back that they will support AM5 through "2027+" so probably at least another generation after ryzen 5.

[@DineshKumar-kh8il]

I want that MSI board, I hope it gets leos approval

[@KitGuruTech]

We will see soon !

[@mikeoleksa]

This all kind of reminds me of when the Ryzen 2000 series CPUs and 400 series motherboards came out. It was just kind of "blah" after the original launch of 1000 series CPUs and 300 series motherboards were considered a pretty good platform. Now, after the 7000 series CPUs and 600 series motherboards were well received, the 9000 and 800 series are really nothing to be excited about.

[@Ray88G]

Productivity workloads benefit more from increase in memory bandwidth .

[@KitGuruTech]

Yes usually

[@douglasmurphy3266]

What does the motherboard chipset have at all to do with the DDR5 memory stability?

[@kerotomas1]

Don’t know what has AMD done with Agesa 1.2.0.2 but even my 7800x3d got a small boost on my x670e rog hero (at least after some quick tests in cinebench) could be placebo too

[@JonathanPilson-mu3rg]

X3d cpus coming soon I hope ❤

[@RobFisherUK]

These boards, 9800X3D, and my next question: best memory speed/latency trade-off. It will be fun to find out.

[@gabrieltossas9050]

Then, no need to upgrade from my X670E Crosshair Hero if I want to use the new Royal Kits 8000 DDR5 paired with the 7800X3D?

[@KitGuruTech]

I haven't tried that specfic combo but provided you have AGESA 1202you should indeed be fine Leo

[@Praireboy-hg8ip]

Boards look good.

[@KitGuruTech]

👍🏻

[@DJDocsVideos]

I'd love to see a test of the new ASRock Boards (Taichi, Taichi Lite, Riptide and Steele Legend) as both Ausus and MSI are on my shitlist and Gigabyte hasn't been any good far at least 2 decades.

[@KitGuruTech]

We are working more with Asrock so fingers crossed we can look at some of their boards in q4 too.

[@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252]

Don’t think the boards are much to get excited about. But the MSI one on its own merits looks like a pretty good cost effective mobo

[@KitGuruTech]

Fair enough!

[@Rahulff-gi4cd]

When is the gigabyte review going up Leo, I have been interested in that board for a bit. and no one has looked at any of those new gigabyte boards in a while

[@KitGuruTech]

Asap !

[@Solan_Busses]

Leo is a legend. love him

[@KitGuruTech]

Well thanks

[@SairajdumadaDumada]

I like Leo a lot. good presenter and one of the best on youtube

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks! 😃

[@theonlyredspecial]

Thanks Leo 👌🏻

[@KitGuruTech]

No problems 👍🏻

[@treyquattro]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm very dismayed, to say the least, at the amount of experimental AGESA updates Zen 4 (especially) owners get. It has all the hallmarks of engineers not understanding the systems they're working with, causing two problems for every one that they fix. I don't want to be updating BIOSes, at all really, but I've been forced to mass update them of late.

[@KitGuruTech]

Good points 👍🏻

[@RajeshKumar-tw1py]

Does the ASUS board come with better power phase setup than the other two? what is justifying the massive price increases?

[@KitGuruTech]

All will be coming in the upcoming content 👍🏻

[@MynameApvrm300]

Hope its a bit more exciting than Zen5, but it certainly doesnt look like it will be

[@BirajBora-ng7ze]

USB 4 is still 40gbps - it just enables multiple devices to dynamically share a single high speed data link. For most people its meaningless.