‘Let it go!’ - Stephen A.‘s advice to Isiah Thomas after his latest MJ comments | First Take

Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman react to Detroit Pistons legend Isiah Thomas' comments that Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls were not successful in the 1980s before dominating the 1990s.
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[@tango103]

As much as Max does go off topic, sometimes Stephen A doesn’t listen 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@kbmusic5231]

😂😂

[@elrojo5447]

Exactly

[@h20aklandfng63]

Stephen A can only hear his own loud, and extremely obnoxious voice sadly.

[@robcanfield5944]

I think both Max and SAS are buffoons...the only one worse is Rob Parker...'No way, no how!'...what a moron!

[@casino8857]

The last dance literally is saving espn right now

[@mickjoG]

Haha

[@jaayjones3159]

Straight up ha.

[@whoa-there]

I doubt that they were doing bad w/ ratings b4 the last dance.

[@Amick44]

@@whoa-there no question it helped though.

[@element-dh9dx]

Nothing can save them now.

[@ERGSEG]

The Pistons were NOT old when Chicago swept them. Those men were in their late 20s and early 30s. Give the Bulls their props. They were the better team.

[@dannueholifield3502]

You keep forgetting that the Pistons went to the championship 3 years in a roll, while Mr wonderful stay home. And Jordan wasn't the first team to win3 in a roll.

[@Arvee1007]

Give props also to the bad boys. They were back to back champs for a reason and it is because they were the better team for two years. Your Michael "salty" Jordan is still upset for over years and he sucks

[@tonejah4180]

@@dannueholifield3502 they loss because there time was up man it wasn't there ages lol

[@muhammadabrahams2314]

thats what isiah and his fans are struggling with

[@jeffmooney3991]

@@Arvee1007 yes the Pistons team was good, and the Bulls were great!!!

[@PerkVFL]

The point is jordan didnt have help when he played those great teams in 80's

[@KINGKONG-we7cc]

Well if that's the case every player in the NBA can say the same thing Isaiah Thomas could say well he didn't have help when they kept losing to the Boston Celtics before Isaiah got over the Boston Celtics he had to go through the Celtics and the Lakers to win the first championship so every player can say the same thing it really doesn't matter the fact is Isaiah Thomas have beaten Michael Jordan way more than Michael Jordan have beaten Isaiah Thomas that is a fact Isaiah Thomas dominated Michael Jordan in the eighties Michael Jordan was not Isaiah Thomas competition he just wasn't Isaiah's competition was Dr j Bird magic Kareem guys like that that's a fact

[@apexbeerleague7147]

I hate this point Jordan fans will use it to wash away his first 8 years as if they didn't exist then turn around and tell you jordan won 6 ring with basically no one.

[@Rizzle2323]

@@apexbeerleague7147 I suppose you've talked to every single jordan fan in the world.🙄

[@fredrickwhynn6225]

Actually MJ won his 1st chip by his 7th year (91), not 9th. LBJ didn't win his 1st chip, till his 9th year.

[@deon3133]

@@fredrickwhynn6225 dam and he won a finals mvp his 17th year.

[@shinsukecorbin425]

“Jordan smoked an old Pistons team” The only player on that team over 30 was Lambeer..So how were they “old”🤔😭🤦🏽‍♂️

[@fawadchaudhry6654]

I thibk it was more so just not the same pistons team as years past, they eere noticeably weaker that season if i remember correctly

[@nunonunes4507]

@@fawadchaudhry6654 wrong. Bulls were stronger...that was the difference.

[@kelseydortch797]

@@fawadchaudhry6654 he's talking about 3-peats so your right.... he's faulting someone else 4 keeping the determination when his team didn't 😂

[@asundelgun3487]

@@fawadchaudhry6654 they still went to the ECF...their 5th trip in a row. The NBA just start officiating the game in a more technical way and stopped all the hacking the Pistons we're doing and they couldn't adjust. Lambeer became another guy when he couldn't clothesline people.

[@jwprosper]

The Pistons starting lineup were all in their 20's except for Bill Laimbeer who was 33 and they were the reigning NBA champions when they got swept by the Bulls!

[@513ovaeverything7]

I have never heard Stephen a smith say anything bad about Jordan in my life.... So this take shouldn’t surprise anyone....

[@lessonlearned232]

SAS, MJ, John Sally, Shaq and several of the other players are members of the same fraternity. They would never say anything negative about each other. The personal bias is too great.

[@j.edwardbaker5993]

Why should he...What can you truly say bad about MJ on the basketball court? Now ask the same about Lebron and you will find several marks against him

[@kellz1703]

J.Edward Baker Rent free i see.

[@lessonlearned232]

I can say a lot about MJ. He hogged the ball, didn't care to play team ball and get others involved without the coach having to tell him to pass it to the OPEN man, he hurt more people's career than helped with some of his behavior, and his teammates really didn't like him, but kept quiet because of fear.

[@pendejo6466]

@@lessonlearned232 MJ took the Bulls to the champion and won every time. He didn't do it alone, of course, but he was the crucial factor over everyone else.

[@vernellbrent7112]

Nobody mentions when Isaiah iced MJ out in the all star game. That was the beginning of all the problems

[@tylerasweet]

Who cares about all star games

[@deadfliestv6918]

@@tylerasweet allegedly

[@Shaolin91z]

People don't mention that. I do remember that. Jordan remembers that. Lol 😂. No dream team for you, sir. Revenge is a mother...

[@giantkiller56]

That lockout never happened. Jordan just had a bad game. But, he had to make up scenarios in his head to give himself motivation. SMH

[@bradwatkins7564]

The lockout is a myth. You can watch that game on youtube and see for yourself.

[@STUPIDYOUTUBE_HIDINGMSGS]

I agree with Max here, MJ dashed the hopes of these amazing players getting a ring: Karl Malone and John Stockton, Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton, Clyde Drexler, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing and John Starks, Reggie Miller, and possible 3-peat of the still bitter Laimbeer and Thomas.

[@jiechou2078]

Why is John Starks in the amazing player list? Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Terry Porter etc were way better than him.

[@joreellex]

Well said sirrrrrrr!!!!

[@truonguyentram8066]

Isaiah Thomas all up in his feelings.... 😂😂😂😂😂 man go to the car and cry😂😂😂😂😂😂.... let it go Zeke ....

[@urbaindelva7869]

That is false because they weren't facing Jordan and his team alone every single year. There was a number of teams that stood in their way of winning rings, not just Jordan and his team.

[@yobskie7752]

A lot of hall of famers doesn't have a ring cuase of MJ that's the fact. And when the time came that jordan wasn't around anymore and they had the oppurtunity to grab one they couldn't cause they got old. A sad fact.

[@axelreyes2935]

Steven A failed to see Max’s extremely valid point as usual

[@silvaniotocoxi8600]

Axel Reyes he does that a lot smh

[@jauharilee7496]

It wasn't valid because the documentary supports Isiah

[@cassiusm164]

Screaming A Smith rarely listen he just likes to hear his own point of view.

[@NoelG314]

stephen a hates.

[@carlosalbertoreyessalazar1476]

Thats true .it was a good point

[@aaronrudd9790]

Magic Johnson said, “There was Michael Jordan, and then there was the rest of us.” That solves it all.

[@javiervaldez5529]

Facts

[@duvalbt5091]

Aaron Rudd on god

[@robertnunez5036]

"JuicedJordan"FakeJohnson"

[@johnblaze4964]

Nope, because during the 80s it was Lakers Celts Pistons those teams was at the end of their runs when the 90s came. They didn't fear. From a best player aspect maybe, but team winning nope.

[@manniesupasport7977]

Nike and/or David Stern probably cut Magic and Bird a nice check for saying that lol

[@thomassowers6291]

As a 26 year old growing up watching bball since I was 8 I always said lebron was the best, even better then Jordan.. then I did some research and studied Jordon... needless to say Jordon is undoubtedly the best ever

[@marykuettner752]

Jordan better, Magic and Bird all better.

[@snoozy7467]

@@marykuettner752 sure u could make an argument for magic but bird idk just Bc he’s a better shooter doesn’t mean he’s the better player

[@marykuettner752]

@@snoozy7467 He passes as well as Magic and controls the game as well. He really was a point forward. He like Magic was a second coach on the floor but as Magic said he also has that deadly dagger three. Magic considers him the better player.

[@snoozy7467]

@@marykuettner752 I’m sure he is in just saying u could sorta attempt to make an argument, but ye I think lebron is better and saying bird is better is just troll IMO 😭😭

[@marykuettner752]

@@snoozy7467 Well people can believe whatever they like. I watched both throughout their careers. LeBron is a great player and I would never say differently. However Bird made 21 buzzerbeaters compared to LeBron 8. LeBron is a great passer but if you watch Bird's fifty greatest passes re edit version you will see some things LeBron has never come near. Bird made all of his teammates better his whole career and they all will tell you that. Will LeBron's say that at the end of his career? We don't know yet. At the end of the game when it was on the line Bird always wanted the ball and he played every game like it was the playoffs. He said people pay to come see us and we owe them our best. Those are my reasons for preferring Bird over LeBron. LeBron is a much better natural athlete but no one out worked Bird.

[@michaelpapazian4843]

Im from the Netherlands, when MJ was playing we here always stayed awake til morning 04:00 to watch the Bulls because of Michael Jordan, we have never stay late or go watching a pistons game or Isiah Thomas or any other basketballer than MJ, with all due respect for all NBA players. MJ was playing his game by his own and the others were just trying.

[@brucemolett9843]

You sir, are what we call a "fanboy"... and that is not a good thing.

[@TheDiaboliq666]

I stayed for Magic's Lakers as well mate. VHS was a god given to solve that problem :D Outside of MJ and Magic, Kobe was the only one that could make me stay awake to watch. There is something to say about the eye candy when watching those 3 play ;)

[@vanravan]

People forget that in 1991 magic was 2nd in the MVP race, a nearly avg a triple double during the playoffs...

[@jessieurena7583]

And won the MVP in 1987, 89, 90

[@picassojulien899]

Ruben Vanravan Really Tho! I hate the notion that magic was “old” the lakers were one of the best teams in the league. And made the finals for a reason.

[@TheRealDillPickles]

@@picassojulien899 lost for a reason too, Byron and worthy were hurt and Kareem just retired. That wasn't SHOWTIME.

[@TheRealDillPickles]

@@TruthHurts58 Kareem IS the GOAT.

[@jessieurena7583]

@@TheRealDillPickles love how people bring up that worthy and scott missed game 5 after they where already down 3-1 but dont mention that the pistons in 89 didn't even have to face magic the entire series

[@michaelshields3969]

Isaiah Thomas,John Sally, Joe Dumars and Dennis Rodman were all 30 and under.

[@nasarode3]

Michael Shields exactly Shields 🛡 lol

[@robterrell7301]

Michael Shields right that old talk is a myth. If anybody was old it was the 96-98 bulls teams. And we know what they did.

[@dd-tm6zp]

Michael Shields yeah they claim to be young in 1990 but old in 1991

[@ciaronsmith4995]

They were injured, and Mahorn gone.

[@landostorm4779]

@@ciaronsmith4995 all of them?

[@jacobbenavides4643]

I’m so glad I watched last dance I always thought LeBron and MJ were equal since I’ve never seen MJ play or even highlights buh after watching the show MJ the goat no matter what you say

[@lekingasghedom9153]

Zeke said it best he didn't beat me Larry legend or magic lakers💯

[@arthurbrown2075]

I asked one of my young friends if he ever watched Jordan he said no he eventually watched Jordan highlights and came back to me and said MJ was the truth

[@23bitchris60]

@@arthurbrown2075 watching highlights is so misleading.

[@pedrorojas0116]

@@lekingasghedom9153 tf you on

[@ChocoAfriman]

I watched the last dance too, now tell what I missed lol because Lebron is obviously better

[@supersonics9196]

anybody who can go through a five minutes Stephen A speech without taking a pause is a super human

[@coryagain]

Stephen A. disagrees with Max even when they're on the same page.

[@spankstar]

They pretty much have to. It would be dull if they were agreeing with each other the whole time.

[@jasonallen3678]

Exactly

[@user-lc7ty6rf6c]

😅😂🤣

[@koreypaul6698]

@JGI Brandon well then he should take the other stance lol!

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

coryagain lol for real he can’t stand max

[@Sunnyb305]

JORDAN SAID THOSE FEELINGS ARE THE SAME TILL THIS DAY CMON SMITH LISTEN PLZ

[@One_Black_Panther]

Exactly!!

[@Tmac9]

He was talking about the moment not isiah himself comprehend before you ask someone to listen

[@PastorAaronEdwardsHall]

He said the hatred for the Pistons team now. Just like Magic hates the Celtics now.

[@damiancallender6621]

Riiiiight. I’m like....did I miss something?!

[@eklipsta]

Yeah you can tell the whole team feels that way. I mean they were trying to end careers

[@Fakename70]

If Thomas should “let it go”, why’d they ask him to appear on First Take THIS MORNING?!

[@Qichar]

You can be a brilliant, entertaining sports figure on TV like Isiah and still be petty and sensitive towards MJ. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[@1964QuietStorm]

THIS! They can't keep asking this man about this and then say that he needs to get over it.

[@Fakename70]

@@Qichar Jordan isn’t being petty, though? Or, is it called “competitive” only when it’s him doing it😒

[@Qichar]

@@Fakename70 Nah, I think Jordan was petty at times too.

[@Fakename70]

@@Qichar That’s what I just said

[@ernestmoore3250]

When you feel like you have been done wrong, it is hard to let it go. That goes for both sides, it clear that those battles left scars for both players. May not be right to still harbor those feelings but others haven’t lived through their experiences to tell them how to feel

[@graylonperson9012]

I totally agree...

[@ILoveOldTWC]

Thank you. Isiah should've shaken hands. But he also should've been on the Dream Team.

[@aarondigby5054]

​@@graylonperson9012the Pistons bounced the Bulls out of the playoffs three straight years and MJ and the Bulls never beat Larry the Legend and the Celtics

[@gocryaboutitlol]

ESPN brings it up, Isiah responded.....now Isiah needs to let it go lol🤦🏾‍♂️👌🏾

[@barakaalecnathaniel3716]

Freddie Simmons Jr for sure this love for jordan is so blind..

[@jcsuperstar4646]

Baraka Alec Nathaniel Wrong...It’s a docuseries so Jordan is speaking. He said Detroit should have shaken hands. Isiah is petty and taking it elsewhere

[@J98131]

Baraka Alec Nathaniel lol you have one right under you too

[@MiamiHeat305]

Comparing LeBron to MJ. LET IT GO ESPN

[@Dr.Donkeedick]

Lebron is a lot better. It’s a stupid comparison

[@tapit5098]

Bryan Figueroa no he’s not

[@davidfebreeze428]

Tommy Ali hes Never had as well constructed teams nor has he had a coach like mike and if he had those same circumstances we’d know for sure but in terms of all around game he tops mike in many categories

[@MP-pg4cm]

Tommy Ali yea he is. Lebron is head and shoulder better than any player Jordan went against in the 90s.

[@Dr.Donkeedick]

Tommy Ali yes

[@bluethundasound5179]

Jordan Said: You gotta know what it feels like to lose before winning💪🏽

[@fourenl6858]

It’s always the people who didn’t go thru what you went thru telling you to let it go

[@rhonda1704]

Yes

[@kdogg716]

That Piston's team, that got SWEPT by the Bulls, was not old. I wish people would stop saying that.

[@PraiseObito]

Kelvin Walker exactly. weren’t they all 32 or younger?

[@radhamesmarrero4951]

Kelvin Walker they were in the late 20s an early 30s they trying. To lie to ppl but we know the true

[@PraiseObito]

Radhames Marrero yea. thanks for clearing that up!

[@leewalk35]

Kelvin Walker more older the 2014 spurs that swept Lebron heat

[@cbmattzilla]

That was old for players back then Tmac was out of the league at 33 Larry Bird was washed up at 33

[@Kmasetv]

He been saying this for yrs though literally lol this isn’t new!!

[@wilbertemc8055]

Asiah Thomas OBVIOUSLY the one should move on. It's because of the DREAM TEAM SNUB..... good thing he was not included. DREAM TEAM are for those who respect basketball.

[@Ok-nz7zv]

w l Isaiah Thomas doesn’t respect basketball? What makes you think that?

[@l.c.1704]

@@Ok-nz7zv Cause Jordan and his coach, Phil Jackson said it so that makes it true. NOT! Basketball back then was a physical sport with way less foul calls then, so it was what it was! Street ball at a higher level! If it was any different back then, would Jordan have had as much motivation to be what you call "the goat?"

[@marcus.6487]

zeke was poze'ta B on that 1st jream team tho...cauz iziah was cold as a muhfcka

[@masterdeus100]

Isiah is right on all accounts. MJ get over it.

[@aaniol0000]

He’s still mad that JORDAN and the bulls were better than him and his pistons Please stop. JORDAN IS STILL BETTER THAN ANYONE THEN AND NOW. True GOAT

[@juliush5879]

Wilt is goat

[@ronaldjackson7541]

Plus I give Magic and bird all the respect in the world because they like Jordan played the game hard but far while the Pistons were the dirtiest team in the NBA except for Joe Dumars and Vinnie the microwave..

[@bigcity3865]

Isaiah best him more than Jordan beat him so I don’t think he was being salty

[@ronaldjackson7541]

@@bigcity3865 if that same pistons team played today they would be disqualified Pistons team was the dirtiest cheating team in nba history .once Jordan and pippen realized how you had to play to beat them it was over for the bullies because we all know what happens when you hit a bully back in this case they drop their heads and walk off the court without saying a word..Pistons had to fight bird , magic and the Jordan to win never just played fare The name bad boys was just an excuse for bad dirty play.

[@bigcity3865]

@Shaman King nah they was past their prime don’t try to leave that part out😂 they smacked Jordan for 3 years str8 and had already been to 3 str8 finals in 87-90 don’t try and act like Jordan swept them when they was still good😂 typical Jordan Stan

[@Spence77]

To be honest, Jordan sounded like he was still salty at Isaiah Thomas in that doc.

[@STUPIDYOUTUBE_HIDINGMSGS]

You do know that Jordan himself told everyone that he still hated the Pistons, right?

[@xdude2x]

Be careful or you’ll upset all the Jordan fanboys

[@nightruler666]

Magic and bird didnt want nothing to do with Isiah either it wasnt just jordan

[@ra6667]

@@nightruler666 exactly, he was very unlikable amongst the rest of the league.

[@nisha5669]

Vampirerockstar Well that’s definitely a lie because Larry Bird didn’t care and Magic Johnson was his best friend

[@ThePilot313]

I like how the bulls beat the “old pistons“ one year after they won the chip. Were they talking about them being old when they won??? NO!😭🤦🏽‍♂️

[@AnthonyWheatley_]

All the starters we're under 30 years of age when the Bulls beat them hardly old they still in their prime

[@francisaldrinmorato387]

Isiah is only 29 yrs old.i think dumars is only 27.they all in their prime

[@spankstar]

Yeah that narrative needs to die. Jordan entered his prime. Pippen became an All-star. That was the end of their reign.

[@richardworthen9872]

Dee. White. This RICHARD WORTHEN. READ MY COMMENTS BRO IM WITH. YOU BRO LOL. MJ. GOAT

[@MrSlashblade]

Dee White 2nd oldest team in the nba with an almost ancient bigs you know what a lot of teams needed back in the days.

[@hs5367]

Max knows what he's talking about when it comes to Jordan

[@Mark-xr6qr]

Aint no way they would have smoked a team like Philly. Do you really think the Doc would not have stepped his game up. With Scotty no chance with Rodman maybe.

[@summertea545]

Jordan simply closed the door on all those teams and said...this is my era.

[@TheDiaboliq666]

Let's get something straight: When MJ's Bulls smoked the Pistons, Zeke was 29, Dumars was 27, Rodman was 29, Lambeer was 33. MJ won his last championship at age of 35. Then they also went on to defeat the Lakers, and here is what that team looked like: Magic 31, Worthy 29, perkins 29, Scott 29 and Divac 22 (Green 27). So, that is... well BS, 'cos the only team of those great 80's 4, that really was old were the Celtics with Larry being 35 and McHale 34 and Parish 38!

[@jamesjr.dampulas6775]

MJ's chips was in the 90s, when David Stern sort of tweaked the game in order for more free flowing offense. He toned down the defense a little bit because he didn't want a brawl at center court every other game. Case in point, Vernon Maxwell and Alvin Robertson was doing the same things the bad boys were doing in the 80s, only this time, they get ejected off the court. So yeah, the 80s were the more tough and physical era. So, Jordan got a taste of what that felt like and it propelled him to dominate an entire decade afterwards. So yeah, you'd be lucky to play great bball in the 80s at 30, 31, 32 years old, with the amount of hits they took.

[@bigcity3865]

Bro stop it the pistons and the lakers was past their prime they had already gone through their blood battles in the 80s so when 91 came they were finished😂💯 don’t try and act like Jordan didn’t start to win once those teams was out of their prime

[@wizzi11able]

@@bigcity3865 Why dont you stop it? Jordan was getting eliminated because he was playing with cokeheads. If he had Phil, Horace and Pippen in their primes in the 80's he would also dominate every single one of those teams. Jordan averaged 43.7 ppg vs the Celtics while putting a playoff record of 63 points in a game while having no help beside him. Tired of the stupidity and the dishonesty of people when addressing Jordan. Jordan with a team would dominate the 80's the same way he dominated the 90's. Since 87 he was considered the best player in the world and the only way the Pistons beat him was by literally beating him up without Jordan having a team, like Salley said Jordan did not have anyone to pass the ball to.

[@meganlowery9149]

@@wizzi11able no because he lost to the Celtics. That was one game. He also scored like 16 once in the series lol he had bad play off games in his first rounds losses a lotttt

[@wizzi11able]

@@meganlowery9149 before Jordan got into the Bulls they were in the lottery for 3 years in.a row missing playoffs. How about you think for a second and start looking at the series as a whole? He never scored 16, but he did score 19 AFTER he dropped 63 and LOST. So he had ZERO help, in 87 3 of his teammates were literally banned from the league due to coke use.

[@JasonKing8113]

It's hilarious when Stephen A is calm talking to Max lol

[@davidfebreeze428]

Jason King 1381From BKNY u didn’t even get the point

[@tedlondon9417]

Max is so uniform, he wasn't around when Isaiah was dominated Jordan, I was!

[@mustafawhite8624]

Jason King 1381From BKNY thought I was the only one😭

[@timbeatty8411]

Jordan is just sitting at home laughing.

[@AristotelK]

Yup and rubbing his hands haha.

[@williebender1895]

Tim Beatty yeah he a mess lol

[@demarr5811]

Larry laughing at those 9 leather belts hanging on his wall 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mcbuckets813]

I doubt it lol with how competitive MJ is I bet it still bothers him that he didn’t beat the Celtics or prime 80’s lakers

[@ciamciaramcia99]

more like counting money

[@josephaustin8067]

Trying to discredit MJ because he was younger than the hof’ers that came before him is ridiculous. Isaiah and haters are upset that MJ surpassed the legacies of all the legends before him when you combine individual dominance with team success.

[@otistrayers4461]

Joseph Austin MJ the goat you agree my friend?

[@charleswilliams6758]

@@otistrayers4461 There is no GOAT because you can't compare eras Jordan was great in his era but you can't say definitely that he is the best ever. I don't listen to Max Kellerman, Stephen A Smith, Skip Baylees or any of the Jordan fanboy club because they worship him so much. they can't be objective at all. Basketball greats from the past get so disrepected by these so called basketball experts They never mention Nate" Tiny"Archibald who is still the only NBA player to ever lead the league in points and assists for a season as one of the top point guards of all time. That's one thing i can say about baseball, the experts respect the game's history unlike basketball and football.

[@puffnstuff9007]

Big facts Joseph

[@oussamaokbi]

@Kenneth Erickson Dude magic Got there 3 more times than Jordan and you still disrespect him...

[@waynedon3155]

SAS is telling Isaiah to “Let it go” but he’s not telling MJ to let go of how he feels about the Pistons over 30 years ago.

[@kojohak3648]

Yeah but Jordan doesn't go around everywhere saying these things unless you bring up those topics and you ask him how he felt about it. But Isiah is everywhere always saying slick stuff about Jordan or the bulls, discrediting their greatness. clearly that guy is holding onto bitterness.

[@douglasreed2138]

@@kojohak3648 facts and Laimbeer and Sally all got hate for Jordan and Pippen

[@Mana_Maui]

wayne don it’s a documentary that goes back 30 years. MJ was telling us how he felt back then

[@eman2k3]

@@Mana_Maui True, but MJ did say "I still hate them till this day" lmfao

[@waynedon3155]

Sam Pomare The last episode of “The last dance” MJ stated he still hates them to this day.

[@D_Rog79]

The Pistons were not “old” when they were swept by the Bulls. Thomas was 29. Dumars was 27. Aguirre was 31. Rodman was 29. Laimbeer was 33. I’m tired of people telling that lie.

[@MM-zm5qx]

@ rIght and it's a lie that needs to stop.

[@MM-zm5qx]

@ rIght and it's a lie that needs to stop.

[@IAMUNUAMI]

Being old can be interpreted in other ways, not only as in age. An organization, its team as a whole, and/or individual players can be physically, emotionally, mentally, and even spiritually beaten down, by such teams as the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers, over the years. ~I'mformation~in~ Motion~

[@devydean1975]

Youziyah Haya Ok but the bulls were winning chips with their star players in their mid 30’s beating all the veterans and young up in coming super stars. The only problem is that they still won so no one can make excuses for them

[@solemagus4761]

facts the 2019 warriors were actually older

[@ajdeguzman2217]

You gotta ask Rodman why MJ so hated that Pistons team since he's one of those Bad Boys back then. He has the answer guys.

[@shinsukecorbin425]

AJ de Guzman not only that he’s one of the few that’ll keep it all the way real and won’t sugarcoat

[@samanthanickson6478]

why does no one bring up "the jordan rules"?

[@tobehonest2234]

@@samanthanickson6478 I was just thinking that.

[@Lootroq]

@@samanthanickson6478 That was a joke right?

[@debodatta7398]

AJ de Guzman hated the pistons cause they used “Jordan” rules... literally beat him up as they played

[@MrThemexacutioner]

He beat Isiah to get into the Finals and beat Magic in the Finals the same year. Whats the problem?

[@dusk6159]

Scottie, Phil and the Chicago Bulls did*, and you mean those wiped out Lakers with a crippled Magic soon to retire, or those done and old (can't even tell what's more of the two, in the old NBAs 13 seasons were like a long career but there's also to consider that those Pistons were already topping off a decade of hard playing and contending + 3 Finals and a repeat of winning, and vs those Showtime Lakers - so that team 50x 1991 Lakers - and Bird's Celtics at that, definitely a deadly combination, at least for the starters) Pistons with Isiah soon to be joining Magic and Bird in retirement, letting Jordan finally get out of the first round in the 90s?

[@x-man9473]

@@dusk6159 Magic was like 2nd in MVP voting, behind Jordan when they made it to the finals that year. The Pistons just won a championship 2 years ago. They simply lost. That "wear and tear" nonsense doesn't make sense in context

[@robertcherry7190]

@Versatile Wolf - MJ helped Pippen reach his potential. Pippen made MJ "better", there is a difference.

[@robertcherry7190]

@Versatile Wolf There's a difference.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

Having lived through the Lakers/Celtic (and Sixers) Era and seeing the Jordan Era take the torch, I can say that, at the time, having a quality center was seen as essential to winning a championship. Kareem, Moses, Parish, Laimbeer (and note Parish and Laimbeer where on STACKED and deep teams). You needed someone solid to win titles. Then Jordan shows up and starts dominating with the three 'ills -- Bill Cartwright, Bill Wennington, and Will Purdue? Are you freaking kidding me? Yeah, I rooted against Jordan 6 times in the Finals. I'm slow sometimes, but I eventually learn. I'm a basketball fan number one, and MJ was an incredible basketball player. The way I framed it in my mind was that Magic, Bird, and Jordan were all peers in terms of winning mentality and dedication, but Jordan got the best all-around genetic and epigenetic download of the three. In all honesty, Isiah is almost certainly in that group, and definitely would be there is he was 6'-6". Although never really likeable outside of Piston fans, Isiah was an amazing basketball player in the land of the trees.

[@kadeem070]

MJ clearly said : :i hated the pistons and that hate is still there to this day". so idk what stephen A is talking about lol

[@itumo2645]

COMEDY COMPILATIONS >>> The pistons != Isiah Thomas

[@kenpasague5925]

He hates pistons the entire team the things that they did to jordan when flagrant foul is not yet clear but when the nba improve that rule bad boy pistons don't Know what to do. Because the only thing made them a successful team is to make a really really hard foul that can cause an injury to a player.

[@sickandloose]

Exactly

[@ndjibukabengele973]

You're not even understanding what you're saying, he said He hated in the past not He hates in the present tense.

[@williamgirard2412]

Hating somebody and respecting their talents level are 2 totally different things. Don't confuse the 2. Like I think you have a comprehension problem but I can still respect your points of view and take the time to explain to you why you are wrong.

[@QuietStorm93]

Stephen A Smith calling someone feisty is hilarious

[@lforte3657]

Thank U Max !!

[@IdealistINFP]

Both of their points, spot on for the point they were trying to make. Max laying it down.

[@officialconch]

How you gonna tell him to let something go when he ain’t bring it up until the documentary? That’s like smacking someone on the back of the head and telling them to let it go when they confront you

[@KingNez89]

Lmfao perfect example!!!

[@hbb7528]

💀💀💀😂😂😂😂

[@TWN321]

Exactly, the documentary comes out, and they ASK HIM about it - he answers, but then he’s somehow got to let it go? Stupid.

[@ferryfernandus1423]

perfect analogy... if you brought that to Isaiah maybe he will laugh on that analogy xD

[@KtotheG]

Isaiah hasn't let it go, though. This isn't the first time he's tarnished Jordan's legacy... he did it in the Pistons 30 for 30 documentary, too... and in previous interviews. This thing really eats at him. He does need to let it go.

[@nguyenthanhhai6725]

I feel bad for Rodman. He is like a kid whose parents really hate each other.

[@Brettwbeyer14]

Honestly Rodman identifies more with the Pistons.

[@FilipCordas]

Rodman is like I am just going to talk about LeBron no one likes LeBron and the media is going to have a fit about it so they will leave me alone.

[@NoelG314]

hahaha good 1

[@honorablementionz3263]

In sports they throw that of all time statement around with anybody lol

[@anthonyvega1283]

Back then once you reached over 30 you were already declining sometimes players stayed good over 30 but not that likely

[@Tyrantoftheworld]

When MJ doesn't let something go: ESPN - "I love the competitive nature that's what makes him great. When Isaiah doesn't let something go: ESPN - "He need's to let it go, this is why no one likes him"

[@26Cortez]

😂😂😂😂 rite

[@lanelovemusic]

Amen! And I am one of Jordan's #1 fan! ....smh... Call a ♠️ a ♠️

[@prodbysouthern3605]

There’s a diff between competitor nature and being a hater. IT know what he said was cap.

[@manaharav]

It's human nature. For instance, if you make 10× as much money as I do, if we get in trouble with the law, you could spin it as an error in judgment, a moment of weakness; if I do the SAME thing, and I'm poor,society will say that I'm a bad person, immoral, etc. Poor Isiah has only two rings. If he had none, and was an All Star his whole career, Stephen A. wouldn't even acknowledge him. In fact he and everybody would be hating on him. "To the victor goes the spoils"

[@joshuablack8221]

Tyrant Justice Because IT is wrong; major difference. Context matters.

[@lostsoldier3434]

I just appreciate the fact that Isiah mentions the Doc... seems everybody forgot about the Dr.

[@rasheedahking3197]

Its cause he only won in the NBA once. They really need a documentary on the ABA. If my dad hadn't taped these games on VHS. I would believe what the media says too.

[@arlopear7136]

Exactly. The 80s were most definitely the Showtime Lakers & Bird's Celtics era. But the 83 Sixers were arguably one of the best NBA teams of all-time. Yet Philly only got that 1 title & 3 Finals appearances. That's how truly competitive the 80s were & was far superior to the 90s.

[@AlexisSnyders]

Moses was the best player at that time, Dr J is like Rick Barry they are known more for pre NBA

[@rasheedahking3197]

@@AlexisSnyders They don't like to bring up that 83 Showtime sweep, but it happened.

[@eckesg2]

Rasheedah King The problem is that a lot of their games are lost. Unlike the AFL, which is why it did better, the ABA didn’t get a major TV deal, so local stations carried the games. There are a few ABA games on KZbin though

[@lfconcrete]

That mentality it’s what got them championships and that to this date won’t change they are competitors till they die . Respect success!!!

[@superdopehiphop]

Isaiah Thomas is 10000% correct. Ppl simply ignore context and who you play when you play

[@williamscorp]

Jordan clearly said what he said on the Last Dance and Isaiah is responding to that! Jordan made it clear on it how he feels not how he felt!

[@ricardolopez3169]

Exactly boi! 💯

[@josedejesus765]

And he should because at the end of the day it was personal, it was no longer basketball, they were trying to hurt him!

[@purrp96]

Fr lol why stephen a Cappin like he dont kno dat?

[@ferryfernandus1423]

@@josedejesus765 if they were trying to hurt him, why isn't isaiah etc go to jail? because pistons are still in bound of being physical?

[@josedejesus765]

@@ferryfernandus1423 lol this guy trying to troll lol are you serious? I said they were trying to hurt him not kill him!

[@MASKEDMAN712]

My man saying, “Let it go” & his network is the one talking about something that happened 30 years ago... LoL.

[@dougbrown3991]

That's his job lol r u dumb

[@nigeltendaisithole1380]

The statement in question is a few hours old, what are you on about?

[@mikecee8381]

The documentary just came out, YOU BIG DUMMY!

[@MASKEDMAN712]

Doug Brown old news. Get over it.

[@MASKEDMAN712]

Nigel Tendai Sithole old news. Get over it.

[@mrbdx]

Lol the Pistons MADE Jordan. He STILL mad! 🤣

[@realmusicentertainmentcompany]

Facts💯✔

[@DreMurf313]

Straight Facts!!

[@johnaho9645]

What are you on about??? Pistons made Jordan?? Lol 😂😆

[@Ladiesman10005]

Imagine being denied from THE DREAM TEAM and being told to “get over it”

[@oussamaokbi]

@Domo Jones Arguably deserved it more than most on that team too..

[@Hotdog-wr7yx]

@Artemis S. Reinhold very dumb comment

[@mart4414]

Stockton all day.

[@Hotdog-wr7yx]

@@mart4414 also a very dumb comment

[@fareent1611]

Isiah came in 81 he took 8 years to win mj came to 84 he took 7 years to win 🤔🤔🤔 he just got more help before jordan

[@MrSmitty1074]

I agree!

[@justisbuckley7769]

You’re probably the same person who tells people that Jordan went up against 4 HOF’ers in the Celtics and that’s why he didn’t win. Uhh... Isiah Thomas went against Prime Celtics, Prime Lakers, and Prime 76ers basically throughout his entire career.

[@cobrachannel100]

@@justisbuckley7769 Props to him. He managed to win 2 and fell apart. Jordan won 6. So whats your point again?

[@adultadventures1597]

Jordan was literally playing by himself at that point.. and did you know he never had a single teammate average over 21 PPG in his entire career?

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

Justis Buckley Uhhh but when Isiah went up against those teams his team had multiple all stars as well. MJ didn’t. Y’all sound like LBJ fans who mention his competitions all stars but fail to mention LBJ’s help.

[@beatease5992]

Steven A is wrong the Pistons were not old when Jordan beat them

[@Cofreshh]

27 - 31yrs old the core at the time. Def not old at all Just an excuse

[@sphong0610]

@@Cofreshh This was before the era of "conditioning". Players peaked and fatigued earlier than they do today. By 30, you were already "old" and halfway out the door.

[@smittyj383]

Be at ease They weren’t in their prime they had been through wars that Jordan couldn’t overcome

[@beatease5992]

@@smittyj383 that team was not old stop the bs

[@kase121]

SadSeasonShow Sir, Kareem played over 40 n finished his career in 89. Cut the nonsense out.

[@willdenoble1898]

The one time SAS said something sensible and coherent.

[@mikeylee3793]

let's be honest you guy's wasn't even born yet when this was going on but act like 80's-90's basketball historians in the comments smh

[@memcrew1]

MikeyP Savage man you ain’t lying!😂

[@perryellis1423]

Facts!!!!

[@tlew137]

@Shakam RaishLahab 😂😂😂😂87

[@bundyrivera7162]

💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@ziggyfizz4674]

lmfaooooooo

[@jackmarshal3723]

Way not say that 🤔it’s ok for Jordan to hate on him but when he comes back at him it’s a problem 🤔

[@hbb7528]

💯💯💯💯

[@solaodebunmi9492]

I sincerely don’t get it 🤷🏽‍♂️...MJ is the undisputed 🐐 and my favorite player ever. But I’ll never agree that he ALONE should be allowed to stunt on people without censor but it becomes an issue when others respond in kind. Much as I’ve loved ‘The Last Dance’ so far, don’t forget it’s basically a Jordan-curated documentary. Digest with some care.

[@spacemansuit0073]

If a man hits a man that man has the right to hit back. 💯

[@bobbyjones7922]

One of the things that bother, Thomas, is that he got no love in chicago, once Mike got to town.

[@popwashington7501]

Jordan was 35 when he won his 6 champion. Bull's was the second oldest team except for The Utah Jazz.

[@EnzoCrive]

Jordan: Says that Isaiah was the worst in 1991. ESPN: Headlines it everywhere, and admires Jordan for his spite. Isiah: Tries to defend himself. ESPN: LeT It Go.

[@Izzyd323]

D .mcfunkerdoodle lol for real...but then again The Last Dance is produced by ESPN so they have to be biased

[@alksdlkasdaklfklasfkasjkld8985]

Jordan is open about his disdain. Isiah comes across sly and insincere behind his soft spoken voice and big smile. Its fake. He hates jordan but puts on like he doesnt. Thats where ppl are coming from

[@scatpackty5936]

@@alksdlkasdaklfklasfkasjkld8985 Exactly. Ppl who really knows what it is. Really knows I.T hates Jordan always has.

[@pp-vf8ls]

come on, just admit it, that Pistons plays dirty, even he wont admit it to this day *dont tell me that the Pistons are just hard and tough

[@kelvinlucas1845]

@@alksdlkasdaklfklasfkasjkld8985simple double standards. Don't complicate nothing

[@jonjon4654]

Funny thing about it is that eventhough MJ didnt beat Magic and Bird in the 80s, both guys are hands down declaring MJ as the GOAT!

[@leroylawrence2773]

One of the first topics that I agree with!

[@GetyourzGYE]

Preach it max! Let it be known!!

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Max "with the fate of the universe on the line" Kellerman and Stephen "Here's the reality of the situation" Smith

[@davidwalker3626]

Max murdered this section!

[@johnharrison1487]

Yea, max nailed it. Hope kids are listening.

[@quab5783]

Max kills every session bruh

[@Ededdneddy9]

Max's section was trash. The Lakers didn't have Kareem or worthy (injured) and that team was definitely past their prime

[@unknowninfinite8081]

@@Ededdneddy9 try to understand context. A LOT of people can say the same for Zeke he defeated a 40-41 year old Kareem. Parish was passed his prime as well. Also DJ. Zeke acts like he defeated teams that were in their primes.

[@charlessankey6953]

Jordan did not let the handshake go that Thomas didn’t give him

[@313rdtony]

@ Stephen A Smith! What Isiah said was 100% true! The 80's was not a GOoD look for the Joradn & the Bulls! BUT they ran the 90's. Isiah is a true Champion and he can speak on this, because his name has been brought up by Jordan! STOP chosing sides unless you can man up and say your choosing sides! And you know and seen the NBA ice the Pistons out! And gave the throne to the Bulls! The Pistons accepted it! Tell your friend Jordan to stop crying! I'm from Detroit and I got the Bred's

[@GABRIELA-ACEVEDO.]

But he went through Isaiah and Magic in the first 3 peat

[@davidfebreeze428]

GABRIELA ACEVEDO he had Puppen magic had older stars and mike had the best coach of all time and Thomas wasn’t really healthy

[@ericrossoni]

GABRIELA ACEVEDO Not in Magic prime lol

[@nighting78]

GABRIELA ACEVEDO magic and the lakers were old and isiah was hurt

[@Saulgud23]

R you stpuid? Prime Jordan beat Magic in his last season and the Pistons were already old can you stop

[@JudaMetalMaiden]

@@ericrossoni if you make it to face each other with a healthy team then close the deal. Isaiah was in 11th year when Jordan beat the Pistons. Jordan was in 7th year when he beat them.

[@kurtisakisix2513]

I have never heard Jordan refer to himself as GOAT or greatest or the best. He always says he is very competitive. I like that. But he is TRULY the GOAT.

[@maxmx767]

Kurtisaki Six Facts!!!! There are other players around giving themselves nobility titles 😂😂

[@Splackavellie85]

Kurtisaki Six “You might be the best high school player, but I’m the best in the world” - Jordan to OJ Mayo

[@KobesFan93]

He's not saying that cuz he thinks it's beneath him. I'd call this even worse arrogance. But he was the goat of his time, period. Doesn't mean he wouldn't be today not that he is. We'll never know.

[@oa2621]

"When you are good, you let people know...when you are great people let you know" - Walter Payton

[@chrisboykin6885]

I love MJ but everyone must agree when Jordan was winning championships there wasn’t a lot of talent in the league overall... it’s was more physical but players in that era weren’t as good as the era before or the era after

[@The1TheyCallFoo313]

What people don't understand when they say Pistons were "old" when they lost. It means more worn out than anything, games were more physical in the 80s and pistons were going to eastern conference like 5/6 years in row, they played like a whole extra season in playoff games in that span. It was the Bulls time. But Pistons still the only team that beat a classic bulls, celtics and lakers teams. But Jordan was still obviously salty in the doc about Isiah.

[@cojack636]

Thank you...

[@dualityofman1253]

Let's not forget that the Detroit Pistons beat the Chicago Bulls in the playoffs in 1988, 1989 & 1990. The Celtics swept the Bulls in 1986 & 1987. The Bulls were (1-3) in playoff series against the Pistons and (0-2) against the Celtics. The Pistons and Celtics had the Bulls number for a good 5 year stretch.

[@antoniolarkett1333]

Where is the respect for pippen

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

mario Johnson Pippen gets respect to those who watched them play but I’m curious what type of respect are you talking about?

[@antoniolarkett1333]

@@eazyduzit-tr3nx nevamind bro

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

mario Johnson The reason why I’m asking is bc look at the comment above me, that’s why. Pippen gets overrated as the years go on, all to discredit MJ. Pippen has said MJ helped him out a lot yet no one brings that up. BJ Armstrong in the doc even alludes to that, MJ said he made it a focal point to help out Pippen to get him to play at his level but according to MJ haters/LBJ fans nowadays it was the other way around.

[@Norel_Nieves]

Mr. 215 stop it, MJ was MJ before Pippen. Pippen became what he did because of MJ. Or do you think Pippen came straight from being drafted into a all star ? He averaged 7 points his first season. And when MJ was not there, what did Pippen do ? Lose 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@713anand]

Much respect to Pippen for missing game 7 ecf because he had a headache. Weak af

[@EB-mu9ex]

Stephen A always finds something to argue about with Max even when they're basically agreeing about the same thing. lol

[@mjs1295]

Max: Merry Christmas Stephen A. Stephen A: Well first of all, here's why wrong Max

[@Headintodreams]

🤣😩🤣😂😂🤣

[@Cre1997]

Isiah was NOT old when MJ and the Bulls eliminated the Pistons. Isiah did NOT win Championships when HE started in the league. 81 until 89… takes time. 8 years Zeke. 84 to 91… takes time. 7 years MJ.

[@gunnerdee84]

As a lifelong Piston fan who had season tickets starting in 1982 I'm glad he still feels that way and we feel the same about the Bulls. Detroit vs Chicago...in all sports is a rivalry. Do I think MJ is the greatest? Yes flat out. But I still hate the Bulls pure and simple. I love that everyone hated my team. Detroit vs Everybody really started back then. 313 baby!

[@giantkiller56]

Facts. The Pistons were low down, dirty, dogs. But they were OUR low down, dirty, dogs!

[@C0C0_Nuts]

Haha, how can you just ignore what a young Jordan did to that prime Celtics team. A literal all time great playoff performance. By himself. They couldn't stop him. Now imagine Jordan with prime Pippen and Rodman. Bulls would win.

[@meganlowery9149]

Imagine Lebron with prime kyrie and love during his rookie season lol like what?

[@louuu3201]

@@meganlowery9149 imagine a prime lebron kyrie and love playing in the 90's , i can see rodman waving goodbye to the ambulance as they carry this 3 to the hospital

[@meganlowery9149]

@@louuu3201 Nah Lebron is as big as pippen and Rodman and just as strong. Lebron has a problem not using his size too much and getting offensive fouls lol idk who you’re watching but he goes through 3 guys trying to tackle him and still lays it up lol

[@KINGKONG-we7cc]

That's true but he never did it against the Pistons he never scored 63 points in the playoffs against the Pistons or the Lakers it's never been done.but yes he did score 63 against the Celtics in the playoffs but how many playoff series did he win against bird magic and Isaiah Thomas he never won a playoff series against bird he won against Isaiah and magic even though he scored 63 points against the Celtics but he didn't win the series

[@KINGKONG-we7cc]

That's true but he never won a playoff series against bird Michael Jordan has never won a playoff series against the Boston Celtics it's never happened how many did he win that's what you got to look at f*** the points he scored how many series did he win against Larry Bird

[@hunnedproofproductions5529]

Stephen “We’ve been friends for decades” Smith

[@leosmith1805]

😅😅😅 SAS been friends for decades wit every celebrity

[@samuelmahmud1909]

All of those guys should have got together years ago over dinner talked and worked out their differences complemented each other on how they made each other better just like Detroit had to get past Boston Chicago finally got past Detroit they all made each other better hats off to them all great players great champions

[@JustinLeeper]

Maybe one of my favorite Max rants here.

[@TeamDaemon1980]

There's always been 2 Bad Boys who have always said snarky remarks about the Bulls... Isiah Thomas and Bill Laimbeer. Craig Hodges said it best on The Odd Couple. Those 2 never gave the Bulls enough credit.

[@normajeaneason6983]

In fact Isaiah let Bill laimbeer talk him into not shaking hands. What kind of leader is that?

[@annamcgauran5725]

And he still playing victim this day about the dream team snub,as if he didn’t spread rumours about magic,butch about Jordan and made sure he wasn’t on the all star team,Thomas is a brilliant player but a weasel of a man

[@evaburnz]

@@normajeaneason6983 you make an excellent observation there.

Stop covering up for mike, he clearly still doesnt like Isaiah.

[@CGBito]

JoJoe Mojo exactly ......idk what SAS saying in this section.......Jordan don’t like that man and you can tell from the way he talked about em

[@Ninjersey1]

I think we all know he still doesn’t like isaih captain obvious

[@ASalahSamak]

JoJoe Mojo lol so what ? We’re humans, we weren’t created to love every single soul.. now grow up kid. U sound STUPPID

[@pendejo6466]

But MJ did give Isiah credit.

[@waynebeauford2334]

I wouldnt either

[@michaeldrummond5450]

Max forgets that Pistons beat the Bulls 3 times in the 1990 ECF with a healthy Scottie Pippen.

[@valyfontil1173]

But Scottie hadn't developed into an elite player yet. In fact, I don't think he was even a starter the first time they lost to the Pistons, if I'm not mistaken

[@michaeldrummond5450]

@@valyfontil1173 Max was stating that the Bulls would have won if Scottie did not have migraine in game 7. In 1990, the Pistons were the better team.

[@valyfontil1173]

@@michaeldrummond5450 Oh, my bad. We'll never know what would've happened if Scottie was healthy for game 7

[@mikelopia0099]

Who isn’t one of Max’s favorite player of all time? Max can be really annoying.

[@neoevans713]

Lol. So true

[@bigezy42]

Why does everyone say the pistons were old in 91? Isaiah was 30, Dumars was 28, Laimbeer was 34, Rodman was 30. These guys were in their prime. Laimbeer was the only one on the back side of their career. I'm fine with everyone saying the pistons were just a better team before 91 but stop using excuses. They lost because the bulls had a better team. There isn't any shame in losing to the GOAT. Just say GG and go home.

[@unknowninfinite8081]

EXACTLY! People don't understand context. Always have excuses on deck.

[@lolorob169]

The refs started callimg fouls on the pistons thats why the bulls started winning

[@olaoluwao.ogunyemi6610]

Yah do know back then that wasn’t prime unlike now.

[@revans100591]

The 1990 matchup proved this Scottie missing games because of migraines was the only reason why they came out of the East that year. If Scottie plays the entire series the Pistons don't win.

[@krwnsy]

27-30 is prime? But MJ was just at the same age range as Isiah, Dumars etc. MJ was 35 when he led the league in scoring and still won his 6th championship.

[@thejfacta4063]

God forbid someone says something even remotely negative about the perfect MJ

[@kyym1081]

In the voice of Princess Elsa: "Isiah let it go....let it go...." 😂

[@jasonisaac9614]

They just hate each other. I think it’s cool that neither one will ever let it go

[@rambo410]

If Jordan had his team in the 90's in the 80's he would beat them. He beat the Lakers in 1991

[@lorenzojones6407]

RAMBO that laker team didn’t have Kareem or anybody else on show time.. and it’s after magic got aids

[@vegetalover9297]

They wouldn't beat the 86 Lakers

[@EJ-sx5yp]

Lorenzo Jones Fr That Lakers team was Old

[@terrenceperkins5282]

Facts

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

Lorenzo Jones Isiah beat the Lakers when Kareem was past his prime, he was 41 years old. Do we hear anyone bring that up?

[@jaredladmirault1622]

Today’s rivalries- we have the best rivalry 90s Pistons and bulls-hold my tech

[@AnthonyTucker-sl4zj]

Isiah simply spoke the TRUTH!! And I don't LET nothing"GO"!! Somebody does ME "dirty"they're going to face the CONSEQUENCES for their actions!! I haven't survived 52 years living in the Detroit GHETTO by just LETTING people get away with doing me"dirty".

[@lovebyfewhatedbymany2041]

ZEEK SPEAKIN FACTS💯💯💯PISTONS ALWAYZ THEIR SINCE 1986💯💯💯

[@JonJontv23]

Isaiah envys Jordan with a passion and we all know it 💯💯💯🗣

[@sheilamohammed8306]

Oh cut it out! Jordan on national tv still crying about getting beat up and a handshake! After 29 years he still Hates Isaiah. Everytime he says Isaiah name he validates Isaiah taking 29 years of space up in his brain. That's called Obsessive. As for Isaiah Who wouldn't be pissed if they had a chance at a gold medal and petty personal bs cost you that chance. Be real.

[@brendagray4958]

@@sheilamohammed8306, and Bill laimbeer and Isaiah Thomas on national TV crying too about MJ got the highest poll rating of being the G🏀OT over LeBron

[@JonJontv23]

Sheila Mohammed wym cut it out Isaiah envy’s michael and it’s full blown proof and Isaiah is the only one who does because he 3 peated something that Larry, magic, and Isaiah hasn’t done

[@brendagray4958]

@@JonJontv23, right! Speak the truth

[@sheilamohammed8306]

You are talking about grown men with millions. Keep eating up this media nonsense about jealously. Only small minded people play on the jealously propaganda. The Goat is a matter of opinion period. Bill Laimbeer said he would not apologize still today, so I don't hear or see him crying. Tell the truth same the Devil. Michael Jordan has not one tims openly admiitted to the part he played in Isaiah being on the Dream Team or Isaiah not shaking his hand. The reason was small minded and Jordan knows it. He such a GOAT who but he's still crying about 29 year old nonsense. He brought it up in this fake documentary he's directing that should be called Jordan's story. No punks allowed. Know the history. Be a Jordan fan but don't knock the team that Made Him. Jordan can't tell his story or give a speech without mentioning The Bad Boys so I'm going to need baby Jordan fans to learn the game. It's more to it than loving his shoes.

[@ljcool17]

IT been hating on MJ since he set foot in the NBA. He even led a shut out of MJ in his first All Star game.

[@mrflynn01]

That’s not true, and this has been debunked!

[@mikewest8836]

MJ really crushed souls back then, they still can’t get over it

[@blazinpyromaniac]

Even when they're agreeing, Stephen A has to disagree

[@kweefsweat5628]

"I agree with you but here's where your wrong"

[@edwardwalden05]

blazinpyromaniac it’s a debate show. They have to disagree

[@strikedogg75]

We forget Stephen A talks to Jordan everyday along with a plethora of other players

[@richardp.3421]

A PLETHORA

[@JmedleyMusik]

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[@iwantujanet]

Fortnelly 💀💀💀😂😂😂

[@bfinvestments5058]

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[@philippederosierjr.2319]

Lmao