LET'S ARGUE: The Worst Christmas Songs

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[@TheNamesJER]

It’s absolutely unreal to me how many adult people don’t realize “I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Clause” is about the kid not recognizing his dad in a Santa suit. Not sure who’s more oblivious, the child or these listeners. Edit: specified that adults were the ones not understanding the song’s context

[@dexter_vane]

Seriously this is like basic context clue comprehension.

[@arcana8035]

It can't be his father, because his father isn't santa. Keep up.

[@daltonrothchild6569]

What else is a kid who believes in Santa supposed to think when listening to that song

[@TheNamesJER]

@@daltonrothchild6569 - sorry, I guess I wasn’t clear enough, there are grown ass adults who don’t understand what the song is about.

[@justsomeguywholikesmangoes1363]

That's what I was thinking the whole time Fantano wa talking about it. I don't understand how so many people can't grasp it.

[@rocknroll648]

Casual reminder that "Baby it's cold outside" is a song about woman who wants to say Yes to staying a mans house overnight but is socially not allowed to because "what the neighbors might say" etc etc, and the drink line is apparently a popular and known joke from the time.

[@andrewbranson4874]

She's flirting with him the entire song, people can't read subtext anymore

[@RayleneSteves]

Did you time travel from 2017?

[@salmonandsoup]

Yep yep! Women did not have nearly as much sexual agency during the time of the song’s creation as they do now.

[@robk7266]

Also, the song was written for a movie. That context is always missing

[@watchdominion00]

Are you a bot?

[@peterofworlds8635]

Fantano is slowly getting more and more unhinged, and I am here for it

[@Zach-rv3ix]

you haven’t met thatistheplan I see

[@a.c.7573]

​@@Zach-rv3ixrip thatistheplan😔

[@DeadSquirrel2955]

Divorce is a hell of a drug.

[@MilkBeverage]

Thatistheplan is finally coming back

[@ryancurry7062]

honestly it’s just fucking exhausting at this point. go find happiness you grouchy melon, not everything is an insult to your grand intellect just because it isn’t bish bosch with sleighbells

[@ScoishVelociraptorMaloish27]

I’ll be home for Christmas is THE most depressing Christmas song ever. Because he’s trying to convince his family that he’s definitely going to be there for Christmas and is getting their hopes up until the end of the song where he says basically he might not actually make it there but what, he’s going to force himself to dream about Christmas with them where he will have an imagined Christmas and they really won’t see him in reality.

[@yeahaight5915]

I ain’t reading allat 💯

[@leanansidhe6332]

Because you can't read?

[@rollfizzlebeef6619]

I actually LOVE depressing Christmas songs like that. They're a nice antidote to all the overly-cheery, forced jolliness we have to listen to around this time of year. "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas", "Blue Christmas", Joni Mitchell's "River", "I Want to Come Home For Christmas", Prince's "Another Lonely Christmas". Good shit.

[@drdre4397]

​@@yeahaight5915You can't read a paragraph... Seriously?

[@Sandybowls_9001]

I mean it was written in 1943 at the height of the war. A lot of mfers didn't come home for xmas or ever.

[@caciliadrachen]

Wasn't the whole "Baby It's Cold Outside" lyric controversy debunked a while ago anyway? It's not advocating roofies, they're both just flirting with each other back and forth and coming up with fake reasons for her to spend the night because it wasn't accepted at the time.

[@intheflatfield2954]

The only thing "bad" about this song is that it's totally outdated. But there are still God Fearing people in the world.

[@popkornking]

That song is only creepy if you're completely incapable of understanding that social norms used to be different, and that sexuality wasn't just something women could express freely without judgment. People are absolutely free to say they're glad things have changed, but applying today's mantra of "no means no" to a song from a time when premarital sex was still taboo is just silly.

[@caciliadrachen]

@@popkornking exactly!! It's a shame this song gets so much hate too because it's genuinely one of my favorite christmas tunes

[@sully2932]

Do people really need this debunked? I’m sure somebody thought ooh, intentionally misinterpreting this classic Christmas song will get tons of views as a Buzzfeed article! Then everybody started parroting that the song should be cancelled or whatever instead of engaging with the slightest bit of critical thought when consuming media

[@DavidWilliams-xk4eb]

@@popkornkingsocial norms in a lot of places truly arent even that different. thats the crazy thing to me. as someone who is Publicly living as a woman and has been for 22 years i remember literally last year being like “well… i mean it’s late, i should get back…” and my partner saying “you probably shouldn’t be driving, being so sleepy… i can call you an uber, but… you should probably stay… with the storms and everything” and that being the exact excuse i needed to stay over lol.

[@angelicsundaes]

i feel like everyone either hates wonderful christmastime by paul mccartney with a burning passion or it’s one of their fav christmas songs of all time there’s zero in between💀

[@chandler_martian]

The synths haunt my nightmares

[@skiesengine1836]

I like it moderately. Actually, it happens to be the synths I like more than the singing itself. Nothing special, but it's better than half of the other christmas songs I hear.

[@NotJarrett]

Yeah it's probably my favorite christmas song (defo up there but i just love mccartney ii in general) even though most everyone else i know hates it so this clocks The extended version goes so hard

[@themc3140]

I like the chord progression, the best way I can describe it is that it feels 'christmas-y'. I don't genuinely think it's a great song, though. And most of the covers make it sound too generic, imo.

[@angelicsundaes]

@@themc3140 oh yea 110%. as much as a wonderful christmastime apologist i am, the covers are so painfully mind numbing. paul mccartney is the only one that does it true justice, any other person recording it either sounds like a kidz bop cover or like they are having a gun pointed to their head in the studio. paul mccartney still slaps tho i can’t explain it

[@ishall9956]

Watching this while crying during college finals is an experience in itself Edit: Thanks everyone. College finals do suck lol. Edit 2: SURVIVED WITH A B AFTER FINALS LETS GO

[@andrewmick303]

hope yer alright boss man

[@tonightsbigloser]

Wishing you all the best, man. I'm sure you'll do great. 🔥

[@finnthekreatormusic5397]

Those college finals can be brutal man

[@ipickyourpocket]

i relate so much hope the best eventually comes to you

[@kevinwillems8720]

You're gonna kill those finals my dude

[@Hardworlder]

The facade crumbles as Anthony just can not bring himself to even ironically defend A Wonderful Christmastime for more than about 30 seconds.

[@davidgjam7600]

Solo McCartney is a trial few men can withstand

[@brobrobrostopstopitbro.3958]

But we can all agree that the shins version is good?

[@johngleason1776]

We are in a weird tineline where members of the Beatles and Alvin and the Chipmunks both make Christmas songs that get played every year and the one by a Beatle is the most hated

[@RobSilverado]

Bc the one by Paul McCartney is ass af

[@aria_chatt]

Most of these songs are at least somewhat unique and fun for casual listening, the only ones i truly hate are any one of the 10,000 soulless covers of "holly jolly christmas"

[@billclinton3010]

Yeah only the Burl Ives is acceptable

[@ThatTransMuffinOfficial]

​@billclinton3010 it's the only one with any genuine mirth. Every cover feels like rote memorization

[@Sam_W]

As someone who works retail and is slowly being driven insane this Christmas season, if 12 Days of Christmas and the Chipmunk Christmas song aren’t brought up I might lose it.

[@alisonpurgatory85]

You are braver than a marine

[@athsumerius6865]

Working holidays in retail for years was what finally forced me to seek therapy. Good luck out there

[@otisdylan9532]

I agree on "12 Days of Christmas". I would like to hear the Chipmunk Christmas song done by a good vocalist, because the song has a good melody,but I don't care for the novelty song treatment of it.

[@juliagross3136]

@@otisdylan9532 there an instrumental jazzy piano version on Spotify that I love!

[@queenautumnween2796]

I've been in retail for over 6 years now and it never gets better. Christmas gets more and more terrible as you continue working in retail. The only good Christmas song is the Charlie Brown Christmas song. No vocals, no annoying choruses, just a really nice piano

[@gnalkhere]

The one slither of respect I have for Wonderful Christmastime is Paul McCartney did everything on that track. All of the music is him, nobody else did anything, and he can't blame anyone for this song being released but himself

[@ckorp666]

wonder if he realized while working on it how many retail workers would traumabond over hearing that gd chorus 20-some times per shift for 1/12th of the year

[@EdwardRossi]

Sigma move TBH. I’m currently in Japan and I hear that song at least 8 times a day in various shops, cafes, restaurants. No matter what city, everyday I am reminded about how much money Paul must be making in royalties on this one song alone I now know is 100% the property of the Mccartney estate.

[@slash196]

Wonderful Christmas Time is the epitome of 70s Paul McCartney, freed from the constraints of his partnership with John Lennon, he's free to do whatever he wants, and it's all dogshit. Though John also sucked without Paul, Happy X-Mas (War is Over) is shit too but it's not nearly as bad.

[@djvibekiller]

Don't know how I never noticed the "choir of children" was just Paul singing falsetto

[@pip-pip5029]

​@@slash196😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jaynephmusic]

I will never understand the hate for Wonderful Christmastime, to me it's simple, fun and nostalgic

[@youtubeuserdan4017]

Fantano's the only source I've seen of passionate hatred for that song.

[@longsun_zhao]

No, it's a repetitive, boring, do-nothing song. I hate it and have since I was a child.

[@josephtafur]

The Synths on that song are trash

[@lemmmakestunes8312]

the chorus is actually awful, and i am super unpicky with music

[@trialbyicecream]

That synth kills the song for me.

[@ZergRushJohnny]

I think Eartha Kitt's Santa Baby is alright because she's not doing the weird baby voice thing like Madonna and it plays into her occasional comedic persona where she'd play up the high class cheeky gold digger gimmick (see also Old Fashioned Girl and her version of C'est Si Bon, etc)

[@gustafcederborg9744]

Yeah I was thinking the same not sure which santa baby they are refering to , I personally have always loved her voice

[@SplatterInker]

10000% its so much better than Marilyn's version too

[@SavageGreywolf]

now now now, say what you will about the singer of Santa Baby, but she is not a gold digger. She made it very clear she intended to dig for platinum.

[@ThatTransMuffinOfficial]

​@SavageGreywolf Exactly! We can not let these libelous allegations stand!

[@toriagalaxy1566]

Yes yes yes, Eartha is EVerything, and the only version I ever willingly listen to. But she can sing absolutely anything ✨️🎶

[@Sfxfreestyle]

I’ve always taken “I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus” as more of the dad dressed up as Santa Claus, and it was some weird sexy fantasy. But also, if my dad was Joe Jackson, I’d be happy if I got a new dad too🤷🏽‍♂️

[@solearesoul]

That’s definitely what the song is implying

[@ArchibaldClumpy]

I always read it as the dad dressed as the mom and the mom dressed as Santa and they're kissing mwah 💋

[@DazzleQuality]

I don’t think the Jackson 5 version is the original but idk

@@ArchibaldClumpy Mommy dresses as Santa happens in I Saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus, a role-reversed version by Kip Adotta. Unlike the original, it makes clear near the end that Santa was really Mommy in disguise, though there is no explanation of why. Maybe she works as Santa, maybe they're doing bedroom roleplay; we'll never know.

@@DazzleQuality It's far from being the original. That was by Jimmy Boyd in 1952; that recording reached #1 on the Billboard chart. Spike Jones released a comedy version the same year; it reached #7. Various other covers happened before the Jackson 5 recording in 1970, including one by the Ronettes in 1963 that was featured on A Christmas Gift to You from Phil Spector. The Ronettes recording was ineligible to chart at the time because it was not released as a single. There have been additional covers since, including one by John Mellencamp on the 1987 benefit album A Very Special Christmas and another on A Twisted Sister Christmas in 2006. The Jackson 5 recording is probably the one that gets played on the radio most often in 2023.

[@dexter_vane]

I recently read an interesting take on Baby It's Cold Outside claiming that all the points on why she doesn't want to stay are social ones (e.g. the neighbours will be suspicious etc.), implying that she really wants to stay but is worried about social pressures which would label her staying over at his place as promiscuous. She's "ought to say no", not because she wants to, but because societal pressures make her. This makes more sense in like 50's dating culture, I guess, but I think it is a fair reading of what is happening in that song.

[@watchdominion00]

Are you a bot?

[@dexter_vane]

@@watchdominion00 No, why? Are you?

[@heckingbamboozled8097]

@@watchdominion00 Why do you keep asking people this? Seems bot-ish

[@stebe5999]

I think one thing people have to realize about Baby It's Cold Outside is the musical context clues. The song is a DUET, which implies the characters are "singing the same tune". She wants to stay but she's expected at home and it's a bad look to stay the night. IF ANYTHING it's a song about fighting antiquated familial expectations

[@watchdominion00]

Are you a bot?

[@stebe5999]

@@watchdominion00 I am human

[@kostajovanovic3711]

Human, after all​@@stebe5999

[@sully2932]

@@watchdominion00 sounds like something a bot would say

[@chefbanjo8139]

I guess I’ll be the weirdo who genuinely enjoys Wonderful Christmastime, and I especially resent the notion that John blew Paul out of the water on Christmas songs. I mean, one song aspires to greatness and says nothing of consequence, the other aspires to a fun listen around the Yuletide season, and accomplishes exactly that.

[@runnersdialzero1244]

but but war is over! it really is!

[@Tetus7]

I am also an enjoyer of Wonderful Christmastime. It's one of my favourite Christmas songs. I like Happy Xmas (War Is Over) too.

[@chefbanjo8139]

@@Tetus7 To each their own, I just think most of John Lennon’s songs post-Beatles are pretty hollow. They usually sound nice, but there just isn’t much there beyond platitudes.

[@ricardo_miguel13]

@@chefbanjo8139I think the other way round, I enjoy Pauls solo stuff a lot! listen to hundreds of songs but nothing will every get me more than the pure honest messages of John, so real.. In his political anthems or just personal songs. Mind Games, #9 Dream, War Is Over, Instant Karma, Woman, Nobody Loves Me, I just get chills. Paul may have been more successful back in the day but now Johns classics are considered as real classics and will stand the test of time.

[@ricardo_miguel13]

and how boring must a song be if he just describes rationally how we can make it, its a song okay, its about dreams we have. War is Over, if you want it is a dream and vision like Imagine.

[@Ringowasprettygood]

It actually took me so long to realize the whole point of I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus is that it’s his dad because I legit believed in Santa as a kid and then just forgot to connect that later in life

[@MongooseBallin]

Truth, listen to my music

[@sycophantic0]

i just realized that right now i’m stupid af

[@cinnamonnoir2487]

Everyone's so cynical they don't realize the song is actually wholesome.

[@Black-rw4og]

@@cinnamonnoir2487 yeah fr dude, it's not that dark

[@moseswilliams1576]

I thought mom was cheating

[@RJPolito]

The Christmas Shoes: its about a poor kid who can't afford the shoes he wants to buy for his mother..who's DYING ON CHRISTMAS! Yeah depression and childhood trauma that sounds Christmasy. Blue Christmas is more cheerful!

[@mellowyellow6572]

You forgot the end where the narrator realizes that god killed the little boy’s mother to teach him a lesson

[@SplendidCoffee0]

Jesus, I’ve never heard of this song. Guess it’s a good thing that wasn’t a Christmas song of my childhood.

[@biddleeewho4181]

SIR I WANNA BUY THESE SHOOOOEESSS FOR MY MAMA PLEEEEAAAAASSEEEEE

[@greatcoldemptiness]

happiest victorian story

[@user-rs2lq6eo7j]

The fact that nobody said last Christmas speaks to how amazing George Micheal is

[@kalenjoseph9515]

I was hoping no one would mention the song. It's an amazing song.

[@nathangray429]

My mom claims to hate that song, but I'm pretty sure it's just cuz he's gay.

[@toddwebb7521]

If someone names that one as bad they better mean the Taylor Swift version

[@astroh4936]

I kinda hate that one idk there's something about the rhyme scheme in the hook that I find so unsatisfying

[@Eminenceofeternity]

@@astroh4936laameo alert

[@Trogdor390]

The ABR Christmas album is actually a blast. It's a goofy collection of their yearly tradition of doing a Christmas song because they like the holiday and it's a fun change of pace. It's just fun 😊

[@Sergeant.Salami]

It kicks so much ass

[@JosiahBotting]

I thought that Fantano’s take on Sleep Token was one of his worst Metal takes…this has to take the cake. ABR’s Metal Christmas Songs are iconic to the season, ESPECIALLY “Carol of the Bells” 🤘🏻

[@android521]

I’ve been wanting them to do a holiday tour where they just rip through their Xmas bangers and I can throw down in an ugly sweater so bad

[@JosiahBotting]

SAME!!!@@android521 I was so pissed to find out that on the one tour I didn't get to attend this past fall, they played "Carol of the Bells" I was soo pissed

[@reidye]

Wonderful Christmastime is a totally passable and fun song. It’s a bit tedious when you hear it 40 times a day, but it’s not worse than any other Xmas song in that regard.

[@imgermain]

I like it! Hearing it in the background during the holidays at some store with crappy speakers on low volume is how you're supposed to barely listen to it. Hearing it on its own with a good soundsystem or headphones is awkward because you really hear that synth that is usually masked by shitty store speakers.

[@ameddayr]

feliz navidad is a lot more repetitive and annoying in my opinion. but i would concede that wonderful christmastime is also quite repetitive. still like it though, but it's rare that i hear it anyways.

[@greatcoldemptiness]

@@ameddayr Feliz navidad is legitimately terrible

[@sebastianmedina1234]

Please, I am begging you to explain how in the world you manage to hear that song 40 times a day. How is that not an exaggeration and how in the world do you hear it more than the other Top 3 most popular Christmas songs (The 7 song covers of Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas has joined the chat). Are you from the UK where the only Christmas song is the one made by a Beatle or something?

[@Metallizombie]

I especially love how the synth plonks sound like a random three year old pressing the keys every so often while some dude generically talks about Christmas time.

[@luisconde6201]

Christmas songs honestly put the mental picture of an old man sitting in a dark room with his rifle listening to them

[@HarrisonTheGrey]

Um…wut

[@Scotty2303]

I get major PTSD every time "All I Want For Christmas Is You" starts.

[@WilfredoWolganG]

Last night I was made aware that Billy Idol has not just a Christmas song, but a Christmas album. The lead single "Yellin' at the Xmas tree," has a horrible early 90s cgi music video, that I guess you could compare to Dire Straits "Money for Nothing" video if you wanted to be generous. The line "Santa's balls are jingling, mommy's hips are wiggling" are 👌

[@hickszn]

The line “say, what’s in this drink” is taken out of context for the time period. That was a common talking point during that time. She’s asking literally what the drink consists of. It’s like saying “nice weather today, no?”

[@ciara7172]

Imagine actually believing that people in the 1940's were making cozy Christmas songs about roofies.

[@hali37363]

THANK YOU. Everyone’s so overeager to call the song “problematic” without understanding a lick of historical context.

[@thegrinderman1090]

I think she's asking it jokingly because she's getting tipsy, and it also implies maybe she's intoxicated by him, because she's already sort of accepting that she's staying by that point.

[@VanDiemensLander]

@@thegrinderman1090 She wants to stay from the get go, the issue is the societal norms at the time about unmarried people spending the night.

[@riggamorrischan]

Nah it’s still a weird track. You know that family guy scene with sean connery as james bond and he keeps trying to persuade the girl for a kiss even though she’s said no like 50 times until she gives in because he doesn’t stop? Yeah it’s pretty much that

[@BaconheartStuff]

If you think Baby It's Cold Outside is bad, wait until you see the lyrics for the "updated" "modern" version, where the guy repeatedly reminds the audience that both the singers are adults, that it is her body and her choice to consume alcohol, and also he casually mentions ordering her a rideshare with a driver named Murray who is subsequently left outside waiting in the cold while she decides whether she wants to stay and bang or just leave.

[@johnwerner69]

How is that any worse than the terrible original version?

[@ryancurry7062]

The original is fine. People got pissed about it because they were bored with their comfortable meaningless lives. The way the world is going, all this moral outrage from the 2016 era over song lyrics and old tweets just seems quaint and privileged. Get the fuck over yourselves.

[@btarczy5067]

@@johnwerner69Maybe it’s trying to salvage something that should just be buried and forgotten forever. Or it’s a joke cover in which case it’s fine, I guess.

[@GizzyDillespee]

I didn't consent to these lyrics

[@ckorp666]

@@johnwerner69 it replaces horror with cringe, which is def a lesser crime but also emblematic of rich, out-of-touch celeb artists trying way too hard to be seen as good people even if it makes bad art with its own weird, revealing subtexts

[@camipco]

The best moment in any Christmas song is Ella adding "I'm just crazy about horses" at the end of Jingle Bells when clearly no one asked.

[@crimsonxiv8184]

Working in retail and being forced to listen to wonderful Christmastime is a mental test of endurance

[@metalmosher6]

I have fucked with that August Burns Red Christmas album for years, cannot believe I’ve never listened to it while flying 80mph down the freeway on the way to get a new Toyota. Genius.

[@flowerdeliveryservice5157]

I wonder if the silver bells person meant Carol of the Bells, which is widely considered spooky to the point that there’s a decade+ snl skit about it

[@salmonandsoup]

Because it was taken from a completely different song-“Shchedryk” is actually a Ukrainian pagan new year’s song.

[@mrseaweed88]

Gotta love fairytale of new York, nothing says Christmas spirit like a song about 2 drunks arguing over nothing 😅

[@CavinLee]

Don't like "Santa Baby"? Try the Michael Buble version where he swaps the word "baby' for "buddy"

[@riggamorrischan]

No thanks I’m good

[@CavinLee]

@@riggamorrischanThey're just really good friends and NOT gay. I repeat NOT gay. Just buddies.

[@icanusernamebetterthanyou3853]

"Santa daddy"

[@CavinLee]

@@icanusernamebetterthanyou3853 Michael Buble, santa baby, smooth, low voice, "Santa... Daddy." Totally no selling it too. People would probably pay for that, he's an attractive guy.

[@thecinematicmind]

I’m pissed off by Buble’s Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) playing the radio stations over the Darlene Love masterpiece

[@matheusrosa94]

Wonderful Christmastime is so goofy, the fact that it pisses people off makes me love it so much, I had to hunt down a copy of the single

[@unrealistic5462]

i feel like fantano is turning even more anti-wonderful christmastime every day, because it feels like he talks about it so often :D

[@Tocinos]

The Blacker the Berry has the be my favorite Christmas song

[@CyberHangman]

There is no Christmas song more depressing than "The Christmas Shoes"; I don't know anybody that has cheerful memories of a loved one dying on Christmas Day

[@descendingforth]

Wonderful Christmastime has the most iconic Christmas melody. Its a classic and played so much for a reason!

[@SimbaChar]

Wonderful Christmastime is by far my least favorite song. I can feel my ears begin to bleed the second I hear the synths start. And something I noticed on Reddit a few years back is that a lot of the people there who have a pure hatred for the song had been retail workers like myself. Listening to the song a few times over Christmas is harmless. Listening to the song 40 times a day 5 days a week for 4 weeks. Not good for your mental health.

[@2doot]

I wasn't aware people loathed Wonderful Christmastime , it's honestly one of my faves 💀

[@IsmailofeRegime]

I think it's one of those songs where, if you aren't a fan, it becomes exceptionally grating to involuntarily hear on the radio or in a mall or something. See also: Shake Your Love, MMMBop, Barbie Girl, Achy Breaky Heart, etc.

[@thecinematicmind]

It’s that awful Chorus. Paul needed more verse the lazy sod.

[@2doot]

@@thecinematicmind fair enough lmfao, I just don't expect fine art from a Christmas song of all things so it's a simple enjoyment to me, imo. It seems like one of those songs you either love or hate but to me it's wildly nostalgic so my opinion may be biased lmfaoo

[@Grassy_Gnoll]

🎶 I'm here tonight, and that's enough! 🎵

[@MP-ti6lz]

Paul mccartney also made Pipes of Peace. Which is an amazing christmas song. Can’t believe nobody mentioned Slade’s ‘so here it is merry christmas blah blah’

[@QuiddDude]

They didnt mention Slade because that song is great.

[@Amanboy2012]

Anthony has made at least 3 separate videos talking about how much he hates “Wonderful Christmastime”. It must have hurt Anthony during his childhood.

[@Scottie_Drippen]

The worst ones have to be when a musical act tries to turn one of their hits into a Christmas song. An example is Cheap Trick, i want you for Christmas 😮😂

[@haydenc41_82]

6:30 I always interpreted this song as the kid being too innocent to realize his dad is the one dressed as Santa lol

[@SuprousOxide]

And then when it switches to "I saw Daddy kissing Santa" is just Mommy liking to dress up, top

[@HogantheLogan]

I'm ready to hear anthony talk about how much he hates wonderful christmastime... again

[@RichKnight36]

I said it laat year, and I'll say it again: "Wonderful Christmastime" is my favorite Christmas song.

[@vonschuhart]

My problem with the whole "Baby It's Cold Outside is Creepy" argument is that it deliberately ignores the obvious subtext. Both the male and female speakers in the song want to spend the night together, and in all likliehood they are gonna get busy. The reason she keeps thinking of excuses to leave is because she is being coy and she wants him to actively pursue her. It's not a song about heavy-handed persuasion and submission. It's a song about playful, passionate cat-and-mouse romance

[@Jacobell97]

I think people tend to forget that the song came out in the 40s, and that at the time it was incredibly taboo for a women to stay the night at a man's house if they were unmarried. In the song it's implied she does want to stay, but doesn't want to explicitly admit it. Also that date rape drugs didn't exist at the time, which should be obvious. "What's in this drink" has nothing to do with being drugged. I read in an article that "What's in this drink?" was a phrase at that time used to blame actions considered taboo on alcohol to avoid taking responsibility.

[@enotsnavdier6867]

I think the main problem that people have with the song is that it's an example of the classic "when she says no she doesn't actually mean it" sentiment. Its a type of rape apologetic-like fantasy created by so many movies, songs, etc, that when a woman says no, she's actually just playing around and wants you to try harder. Because, lets be real, when a woman says no, 99% of the time they mean no. But most media portrays that as an incredibly common thing. So understandably a lot of people don't like a song with the premise of: woman says no constantly, man isn't willing to take no for an answer.

[@DavidWilliams-xk4eb]

@@enotsnavdier6867that’s not the premise, though. the premise is “woman obviously being coy, man saying ‘it’s ok just stay over’”. women could drive and hail taxis in the 40s. if she had said “for real, i have plans tomorrow, it was nice seeing you” we have no evidence to suggest he wouldn’t have just been like “oh ok bye”

[@daddykarlmarx6183]

Fun fact, the woman who sang santa baby also played the villain in the emperor's new groove lol

[@cinderstar4377]

That’s the only version I like of it, not fond of the Madonna version

[@BlackbladeYT]

Surprised by the lack of Hippopotamuses, Two Front Teeth, and Hula Hoops

[@conormurphy4328]

For anybody wondering, the best Christmas song is “Let it snow” as sung by Captain Pickard.

[@Duncstorm]

I was lucky enough to meet Paul McCartney when working as a lighting technician at Glastonbury 2022. He was super friendly and took the time to talk to lots of people working at the festival. Right before he was about to perform on the pyramid stage in front of thousands, I asked his manager if I could somehow have a brief chat with him and they said if I was quick. So right away I mentioned that I was a huge fan of the Beatles and all his work. Paul joked saying "well you can't be a fan of all of them lad" I nodded saying "well yeah, I honestly can't stand the song Wonderful Christmastime due to it being an overplayed shite song". I was a bundle of nerves but to my surprise he didn't seem offended he just cracked a small smile and said, "Let it be".

[@allegory9693]

He should have let it be, the fuck.

[@otiswasmyname]

Lmao 🤣 Loved this video so much and am so happy that I'm not the only one that loathes "Wonderful Christmastime"

[@rasputin7095]

When I used to get migraine headaches and panic attacks in the middle of the night, "simply having a wonderful Christmas time" would play on repeat in my head and drive me insane. It's the sound track to hell.

[@kingj6677]

Paul McCartney's Wonderful Christmas Time sounds like it was made in a dystopian alternate reality, where society's Christmas traditions may be a little different from ours.

[@ArunaUtd]

As long as we all agree that Grandma Got Runover by a Reindeer is the best xmas song oat, I'm happy.

[@thechief00]

that's a weird way to spell "Merry Xmas Everyone by Slade"

[@ThatTransMuffinOfficial]

It's not even the best christmas comedy song about violence

[@conord9623]

The keys in Wonderful Christmastime sound like they're going through four delay pedals to the point where they effect each other off beat

[@birdbrain4445]

Well that sure was uh, something. One of the more mystifying and entertaining Let's Argues in recent memory, lol.

[@tennisracket166]

lets argue lets argue, lets all go argue go on the internet and give me all of your hot taAAAaaaaaAkes

[@summerwoodsmusic]

I’m starting to feel like I’m part of a social experiment where people start hating on a perfectly fine Paul McCartney song just to see if I’ll succumb to the social pressure.

[@AshleyDownTranmissionSociety]

wonderful christmas time turned a super cool synth sound into an instant xmas classic - whats not to like!

[@beatchef]

The Drum & Bass version of Wonderful Christmastime, by Datasette, is a masterpiece that goes way way harder than it has any right to. 😂

[@maitele]

Where in the hell can i find *that?* I like both the original *and* Datasette...

[@beatchef]

I couldn't find it anywhere online and so I just uploaded it to my channel. My message with a direct link to it got deleted unfortunately @@maitele

[@RedDevil_Joe]

Everybody needs…Slade - Merry Christmas Everybody, Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday, Elton John - Step Into Christmas, Wham! - Last Christmas, The Darkness - Christmas Time (Don’t Let The Bells End) & The Pogues (RIP) - Fairytale Of New York

[@w.g.hunter1300]

I love Wonderful Christmastime, both Macca's original and the Monkees' recent version. Also, it's wild that he picked my hometown's Honda dealership at 3:30

[@leviathjensen2149]

the editor killed this shit ❤

[@SaintBenzoid]

Wonderful Christmastime is legitimately my favorite Christmas song and people always think I'm insane

[@ryankiesling2885]

For my grade 7 Christmas concert, my female teacher got some of my friends and myself to dress up in drag and dance suggestively in front of parents while singing Santa Baby. It definitely had an impact on me, not sure in which way 😂

[@beatrixxxkiddo]

Since Anthony mentioned gta, it would be cool if he rated the radio stations in gta games

[@fortynights1513]

He should tier list them

[@Skeekiest]

TIER LIST TIME

[@Joe90h]

The alt rock station from San Andreas takes it, easy.

[@beatrixxxkiddo]

@@Joe90h K DST its a pretty good one yeah, also K JAH in gta lcs is a banger too

[@mikestro2994]

Always used to blast Head Radio back in the day X)

[@alexandermichaud957]

Am I the only one who would have wanted more actual discussion of bad songs? These all felt like low hanging fruit that he's talked about before

[@matthewroberts3125]

Listen, I like my Christmas to rock hard, and that August Burns Red album goes hard 🔥 I will accept no arguments to the contrary 😤

[@WEHRMUSIC]

Fun fact! The intro music to the jackson 5's Christmas medley (the santa clause is coming to town part) was interpolated into the intro of joy division's, 'love will tear us apart'

[@TheRareVideosXL]

Great video as always.

[@herberttlbd]

Nobody ever talks about King Diamond's Christmas song.

[@stevencates2069]

I like the cover of "wonderful christmas time" by Mac Demarco.

[@MortanAMrk]

What works about Wonderful Christmastime, is that its so incredibly jolly

[@GizzyDillespee]

8:55 THAT'S the reason that it's hated so much. Because it's annoyingly catchy, and it's been tagged in our brains for December... ive heard it in my head WAY more than Ive actually heard it. That's why it grinds my gears.

[@GizzyDillespee]

You don't know what I'm talking about?! 1-877-KARS4KIDS oh yeah NOW you know what I'm talking about. Enjoy your Wonderful Karsmastime, kids!

[@samharrych]

Ah! Christmas time! Also know as that time of the year for Melon to hate on Wonderful Christmastime

[@KT12191]

How dare someone puts an Eartha Kitt song on this list 😡😡

[@rollfizzlebeef6619]

I would only agree with them if they were talking about any of the covers. EVERY cover of this song (yes, even the Madonna version) is trash. Eartha Kitt's voice and delivery perfectly capture that campy playful tongue-in-cheek vibe that the song requires. Somehow, every single artist after her who have tried their hand at this song completely misses the mark, or more often, don't even try to hit it. And don't even get me started on that weird ass Michael Buble version where he changes it to "Santa Buddy". Like, what the hell was even the point of that?

[@bigchungus420]

​@@rollfizzlebeef6619Madonna's version is awful. She made it a single entendre :^)

[@blooblaah9896]

I work at a warehouse for eyeglasses. They denied my time off to go see my sick old grandma for christmas. My boss keeps playing christmas music, going on about getting in the holiday spirit, I hate it all.

[@tpags7398]

Every time he says “loud rock” I collapse a little

[@chesterparish3794]

I LOOOOOOVE WONDERFUL CHRISTMASTIME

[@Nikaido..]

Fantano is starting to get more and more in common with Kanye then he likes to admit.

[@wearethefallenmusic]

I’ll never get over how you sing like Carl Wezzer with a sense of pitch lol love ya merry Christmas and happy new year

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Is the plan for Thatistheplan to come back? Cus this feels very Thatistheplan and I love it

[@JagoFett]

Hot take: the key foundation to what makes Christmas songs work is a jazzy base, very few Christmas songs can deviate from this and still sound good without incorporating some jazz elements. May this be through full composition or simply the use of jazz instrumentation. Although there are a few that do venture away from the jazzy sound and manage to sounds good, but they do this by essentially trading the feel of a Christmas song to pratically make what would've been a good song on any old regular album. So just because it sounds good doesn't mean it inherently captures or evokes the vibe of the season in any way. Edit: forgot to mention the inclusion of bells. Bells are cool you know. Also i didnt mention hymn sounding Christmas songs. Or the super orchestral stuff, mainly cause I'm arguing from a more modern song perspective and new Christmas songs being made barely fall into those categories.

[@LitCactus]

that and bells

[@DefenestrateYourself]

Nah, there’s tons of non-jazzy classics. And as a jazz lover, jazz certainly isn’t the foundation of Christmas music. Renaissance and early 20th century songs are amazing, such as: Riu Riu Chiu, Gaudete, Ukrainian Bell Carol, The Boar’s Head Carol, and Lully Lulla Lullay, et al.

[@hickszn]

Depends on the era. Listen to Cinderella the original cartoon. All the music sounds like Christmas from that era. And it wasn’t particularly jazzy. It was more churchy/hymn sounding

[@Smirkless]

Most lukewarm take ever

[@cinnamonnoir2487]

I can think of several rebuttals to this, but funnily enough they're all in the form of "The [Blank] Song", as in "The Christmas Song", "The Wassail Song", and "The Chipmunk Song". So I'm going to tentatively say you're correct _except_ for "song" songs.

[@ven1s0n]

How was Do They Know It's Christmas not mentioned?? Genuinely the worst Christmas song of all time, and they've remade it like four times! Plus consider all the big names involved.

[@Olivreira_]

love the vibes on this video

[@PatrickTK21]

Anthony may have had a few holiday drinks before recording and this video is all the better because of it!

[@Yungtuna11111]

This video makes me like Wonderful Christmas Time even more tbh

[@nardinyouryard]

I love the quirky synthy riffs and all the little embellishments Paul added to WCT, I have always enjoyed that song

[@Zubatticus]

Jingle Bell Rock by I Declare War never ceases to put a smile on my face every year.

[@ahedgehog1879]

This is actually a really good Christmas special

[@debonaire_nerd]

Do any of Bruce Willis' blues albums count as Christmas albums? I'm dying to know. Hard.

[@eddygecko3184]

Mele Kalikimaka is underrated, easily top 3 christmas song

[@itim777]

Seth Macfarlane’s version is decent

[@idc9053]

one of the coolest let's argue in a while

[@KingWi11]

The editing on this video is 10/10

[@danielpierce9343]

Can we get a Let’s Argue on Best Christmas Songs? I’m very curious because it would be nice to see your thoughts on Fairytale of New York especially with the passing of Shane MacGowan. I always found it cool that there is Pogues representation during the holiday season especially since that song is on one of my favorite albums of all time.

[@brad6546]

The mistletoe jam by Luther Vandross

[@mr.dirtydan3338]

My favorite is probably white christmas

[@galacticboi8752]

i want a hippopotamus for christmas, easy

[@fortynights1513]

Boston Pops Sleigh Ride

[@mehemynxm6974]

The mummy kissing Santa Claus song, I always thought it was about the dad dressing up as Santa, lol.

[@brandonfoley6826]

It is.

[@chemicalrory]

The kid still thinks it's another man, though... right? Sure, no dad can compete with Santa, but for the kid to be chuffed that his mum's snogging the old fart...

[@rusty7104]

really got the christmas spirit here anthony!

[@AriannaCunningham]

I would say the Portsmouth Sinfonia’s rendition of Tchaikovsky’s Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, Waltz of the FLowers, and March from the Nutcracker Suite.