Let's Talk About The Drama

[@GC-Shadow1327]

This was very responsible and level-headed, and I don't think u were being overboard like u were being made out to be. This Aithoma fellow from what I've observed from afar to me is more of a slimy brat.

[@Qliu9999]

Respect for putting this vid out. Honestly, I’ve agreed with all your opinions so far. Personal attacks are unwarranted, but to be fair, Saintontas also seems to be someone who has an extremely fragile ego, and gets real defensive. If you see some of his comments on KZbin and reddit, he’s actually heaps toxic when responding to criticism. Aithoma also seems heaps immature. Just seems to have taken advantage and created a hit piece on you when drama about you started to come up. Gets his views and dips out without working it out with you. Hope to see you move on from this, and will continue to watch you for your balanced views. I honestly cannot stand the toxic positivity cc’s.

[@dtariushale2511]

Yeah while I agreed with saintontas opinions on say his last tier list Livestream. I noticed him threatening to ban people way to readily...like one guy I could tell just genuinely didn't understand saintontas point in why he had a specific opinion on a specific units tier placement and saintontas was acting like dude was trying to challenge him just by asking for more clarity. Now while saintontas was right in this scenario his impatience and aggression at someone who didn't understand his point was pretty cringe. Alot of these CC's are deluding themselves thinking their big shot celebrities, and on their stream their word is law or something.

[@DisIngRaM]

Might offend someone. Personally, I feel some CC had to make an opposition of Saintontas, as Saintontas made WW community feels cheap and low class with his overglazing, which sadly is a fact given how many people loyally follow and defend Saintontas. In my mind, those that follow Saintontas, I think of them as people not having the opportunity of decent educations. See that CC talk and content.. It explains itself for those who know better.

[@aestheticgame1369]

by telling him saint has fragile ego you just want to ignite fire , just stop this baiting comments, fox didnt need it

[@angelvarietyp]

@@Qliu9999 I agree but tbh I rather watch Saintontas the glazer > Foxsol the whale who think he knows best Every Livestream of Foxsol is him saying the same exact thing nothing new and him trashing the game constantly. Honestly I take it back both are just trash.

[@Mikele-fs8vd]

bruh satan talks a good game but fails to see how his own actions are childish he should had talk to you.

[@famimame]

Great video Fox, also good job for keeping cool throughout the whole video.

[@rockbel86]

Its very nice to hear you calmly talking. Now all you guys need to do is talk to each other. I think this drama or misunderstanding wont end if you guys just do videos and react to each other. It will be more entertaining if you guys will all be on a podcast talking about things that can improve wuwa without attacking each other.🙂

[@angelvarietyp]

I doubt it the way how Foxsol talk about those ccs especially calling Saintontas a idiot etc They won't accept his apology so easily since Foxsol crossed a line by attacking these ccs publicly especially Saintontas which was the worst one to the point it really look bad for him. He came off like someone who really hated the guy for being a wuwa glazer.

[@HuyNguyen-mf9fi]

@@angelvarietyp Saintontard is not an idiot? what's wrong with calling thing what it is

[@aestheticgame1369]

ngl foxsol has the best voice when hes chill, i can just play his video on the background and enjoy working.

[@TheViBechannel442]

Think your a great guy. dont worry about the others! BE YOU!!!

[@veedizzy]

Thanks Fox. Let's see how my talks with VxV Fiction turns out when it happens -- if it ever happens. He said last night that something came up. Perhaps this weekend we can address it. But great video bud. Sincere, calm and genuine.

[@demontekdigital]

I was subbed to Saint until all this unfolded. I didn't unsub to take sides, or support one person over the other. I un-subbed purely based on how he handled himself. Having mods deal with HIS problems, not being willing to discuss things, then not accepting your apology because to him it "wasn't good enough", and ultimately being completely unwilling to accept his mistakes was, in my opinion, weak, and gutless. It showed a lack of professionalism, and adulthood. If he's that frail he really needs to step away from KZbin, and find something else to do. To be honest I thought all this was already hashed out. I think the chat sections in your streams are keeping you in a rut, and not allowing you to definitively move past all of this. It might be a good idea to either just step back for a week, or so to really look at this objectively without anyone else's opinions, or timeout anyone bringing drama to the streams. I find it interesting how people will complain about being sick of the drama, then bring it up in literally every stream you do. If people were truly tired of drama they'd make an effort not to talk about it. Gacha chats have become a room full of gossiping, bored housewives, and it really should stop.

[@Son_Milton]

Saintontas still does vids about wuthering waves and turns them into hit-piece comparisons against genshin. That fact that fox said still holds true.

[@angelvarietyp]

But foxsol could also shut down people who keep bringing up the drama but he doesn't instead he talk about the same thing 99% of his livesteam

[@AnsonCarter-q1o]

Saintontas legit seems to have mental health issues or something. Even by WuWa community standards of late he seems to have a huge persecution complex and is always ranting and raving about something. Just kind of seems like a bit of an asshole too

[@feralchimaera99]

The Aithoma part i was kinda having questions on his part and when Cptn Kabinetz reacted to his video seeing some comment that you reached out to him while the other party doesn't even want to, other comments are even giving him praise without knowing the context of what happened. When I saw him dropping another video about you after reading the comment after comment about it without him addressing why there's a copyright strike, this guy is just farming and dips out.

[@famimame]

He went straight into my "don't recommend video" list after what happened. Genuinely spineless.

[@HikariNeko-r5d]

I'm feel sorry toward you mr Foxsol. I know sometime I missed out on some of your Livestream ( gotta grind life in irl hehe) but in my pov you just CC that just want to tell the audience your opinion in certain thing. Of course some people doesn't agree and that okay. Everyone has their own opinion and you too . About the drama called you a " hypocrite" i remember the cammellya "leak" kit were different then we got . Before it showed cammellya gained certain crit.rate in her skill or doing something but what we got now increase in damage which is different ( i may be wrong a bit and I'm sorry ) and i don't you deserve that title .you even try to talk or discuss with saintontas about the sensor tower to let everyone get a deeper understanding about it but I really wanted hate that Aithoma guy.Imagine trying to see what you did wrong and doesn't even want to talk to you (as if this thoma guy too good to be involved in this misinformation he created until the third party get in to the situation aka KZbin). But after watch this i need to respect your wish to not create any negativity in this platform. I hope the rest of life you shower with happiness and luck from people who you loved and befriend with. Don't worry even if you played less wuwa , i will still be in you Livestream be strong mate💪 (Sorry for the rambling i just don't like cc opinion like you get trample in this toxicity)

[@DavidLeb-e6v]

You should be given a chance to talk all, I am going to say. If Saints was a man of his word I think he should talk to you.

[@Jessywilliams300]

Seriously, Those other CCs are trash they could had talked to you

[@angelvarietyp]

I think Fox could have done the same thing reach out and talk to them as well before he put videos or well his livestreams calling them names etc He started it first, now he's getting called out for it by the people who make videos on it and now he wants people to talk? He wants everything to be private like what he always say but why did you make 3 videos including livsteams about Saintontas without "talking to him first"

[@gamergirltag]

Man your voice is soothing

[@claybornlarger6336]

I respect you more for this video

[@IndiraGurnani417]

You dont deserve this crap! You are amazing :)

[@BugCatLove]

Based.

[@afibanowati]

tectone is the real problem in gacha space

[@MiguelPeters210]

Look atleast you take responsibility more than anyone else i seen

[@corkyronson6233]

You Are Legit one of the better CCs out there! For Real!

[@psychopompsm]

Also i see nothing wrong with what you say on videos people take things to serious now, your live stream and videos are great to watch you have some valid poits to hear and it's entertaining do please keep up with the great work!

[@yuunarukami8622]

Im the guy that fox talking about, imma be real yes i do get hit by certain CC for not agreeing with their take, and getting banned while being called as wuwa hatter and hoyoshill. Its mostly because im one of the chatter in fox stream for some stream, even though im one of the neutral taker of FOX, like i agree with his take for some and dont agree on some like his take on encore. But yeah Fox is sometimes stupid and emotional but i cant say the guy is not wuwa lover and enjoyer, having discussion with him about what wuwa lack is fun because he does play the game. But yeah if i want to be real i still mad of that certain CC, i will not say his name nor i will make video of it even though i want to do it before, i just hope people enjoy wuwa 1.4 and the incoming 2.0 without any drama. I will say again i hate drama.

[@inthenameofcontractlendmem983]

Man, please forget dramas. Pls nust make contents about the game itself. I currently plays GI but will play WuWa later and I really need CCs in WuWa like "CatWithBlueHat", "ON Game", "Meinsleif" and more.

[@Bantadasa]

I wish Saintontas, would talk to you, i think u guys be cool together.

[@angelvarietyp]

Doubt it what Foxsol did was way too far Calling him names, throwing accusations and insults you really think he would be buddy buddy with fox after that lol Ngl this situation wouldn't have started if both sides didn't escalate it mostly on Fox side

[@LiuBeiWa]

Fox called him out for good reason. Saint is bad for the community. Fox is right about the hit piece videos. It's disingenuous because the topic be like Wuwa's the best at something amongst all gacha games, but he ends up just shitting on genshin. Which just divides the community. It's unnecessary. There's plenty of cc's that create positive content about their game without shitting on another game. Saint's original drama was because he spread bullshit about voice actors and blaming it on hoyo. The screenshot on this video regarding discord and Saint only doing what he's doing to "improve genshin" is just fucking ridiculous. Hit piece after hit piece, and it's suddenly "I was doing it for their own good". The guy's a fucking snake.

[@Noobster474]

"Known to man" is WILD 😭🙏

[@psychopompsm]

Man im tire of seing drame this drama hera drama everywhere😒

[@zachanas4670]

Gachasmack never said that it was unreasonable for Kuro to extend the event, though. He said that if you don't pay close attention, you will think that the countdown timer is for the event. Kuro has two event timers, one for the event itself, one for the store. The store was open, but the event was over. I found it funny and think it was lazy of him, but I also understand that most people ARE lazy and try to read as little as possible. In which case, you were in the wrong. I already talked enough about the Saintonas and Sensor Tower issue. I think you overreacted to his oversimplification. He was wrong to oversimplify, you were wrong to overreact.

[@opbro751]

who got attacked?

[@angelvarietyp]

Well Saint and other ccs got attacked first then Aithoma made a vid on Fox then the drama started because Fox thought they should talk to him instead of making a vid on him

[@opbro751]

@@angelvarietyp thnks

[@vitrumtars]

personally i suggest stop making wuwa content, its community will chase you down like a witch for criticizing their game there are more games you can make content for, heck despite its flaws at least genshin community now is more accepting than before and same goes for ZZZ why not go there instead? you'll gain even more views there since its a bigger community as a whole too

[@wingardiumleviosa4623]

so this is where we got #fucksol 😂

[@asianrice160]

😂😂😂

[@Susana21217]

DOWN WITH GLAZING!

[@riciphariss107]

Wow. I feel like trash for believing the other WUWA guys

[@aestheticgame1369]

i mean if you have stable income already no need to drama bait and name calling just do your thing. and stop responding to different opinion

[@angelvarietyp]

@@aestheticgame1369 I doubt it because he keeps talking about it, someone keep bringing it up and some other stuff. It will only go away if they stop talking about it. One thing I noticed about Fox is when something gets to him, it stays there for eternity.

[@Solo_Hero_Drax]

Like I said on my last stream with @veedizzy FOX IS A GOOD GUY chill with the hate that’s wild now

[@veedizzy]

we gots your back