Lizzo Calls EVERYONE Fat Phobic | Cancelled for being Pregnant? | Gypsy rose

[@pig3292]

I feel like Raven's wife not growing up watching her makes sense. Celebrities are probably less likely to fall for a fan because of the weird power dynamic.

[@ThePinkPanth3r]

When raven was on TV you had to go to that aweful scrolling guide channel to find out what was on TV, I only watched nickelodeon or cartoon network, didn't even know what channel Disney was on.

[@ChaosTheoriesLuxe]

​@@ThePinkPanth3r The T.V. guild channel was the bane of my childhood.

[@robertstokes9034]

Exactly. She was probably more attracted to her because her wife didn’t know anything about her. Raven could define herself instead of tv and movies doing it for her.

[@erikawalata1741]

Also her wife might be the same age as her, and her shows & movies were aimed at kids younger than her

[@Swaggylicous]

I agree raven literally said she wouldn’t have pursued anything with if she knew her from the shows she was on everyone attacking her for it didn’t watch the podcast episode smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@junkratsdaughter]

being accused of racism towards yo wife for not being a superfan is wild

[@hyates9653]

People are actually insane. Some people genuinely will accuse others of racism for any behavior that isn’t practically worshipping them it seems

[@knucklescapricorn31]

It really is. Like, the wife could somehow be racist enough to refuse to watch a TV show about a black girl but also be totally fine with marrying that same black person years later.

[@aleksannuki]

@@hyates9653right. The narcissism of black people in America knows no bounds.

[@jessica5470]

​@@hyates9653which ironically is racism itself, no one should worship anyone, nevermind 1 particular race, it sounds like a kink thing at that point, i love a lot of things about Japanese culture but it'd be weird as fuck if I started becoming obsessed with random Japanese people, and accusing anyone who doesn't care about pokemon of being racist, its so bizarre. Its so wild to me people can't have just basic respect for everyone regardless of race, I can only imagine they're racist because I can't understand the drive to behave that way otherwise, its asif theyre making up for something. Just treat everyone equal why is that so hard for people, no love or hate is needed just common sense

[@Casamigostookmyfriends]

⁠@@knucklescapricorn31right? It just seems like she wasn’t a kid who watched Disney when she was growing up.

[@wmverk]

Nobody wants to marry a super fan. It's creepy.

[@madeleinejones4406]

Literally.. if I was a celeb, I think that my partner not knowing my work prior to our relationship would be a plus

[@amethystdream8251]

I've been very frustrated with people over this. You can support your partner's work and root for their success, without being obsessed or possessive with them. What does not compute here?

[@XxcelestialgirlxX]

​@@amethystdream8251 and you can support your partner's work without watching it

[@AerynKDesigns]

Not nobody, because it absolutely happens, but YES it's 100% creepy. OFc the only people I can cite are problematic, like Nicholas Brenden and Steven Collins are both in relationships with super fans.

[@tiffanykim2773]

Exactly that's so weird that people wanted her to be an obsessive fan like wtf.

[@NyxPoppinz]

the fatphobic card can’t be pulled EVERY time💀if a skinny person wore her outfit it still wouldn’t be cute

[@excusemewhatisthis9323]

she totally thinks that about herself and just needs to pin the blame on others

[@Chickadeemedicine]

THIS! An ugly dress is ugly period. Only difference is the size tag, but the terrible design remains. Slap this on any thin celeb and still be bad, possibly worse since I feel like a smaller body would be lost in the noise and frills of the dress itself....

[@nopeninja9765]

Exactly. The Met gala is full of skinny celebs and last time I checked that didn’t stop people from making fun of them if they didn’t like their outfit.

[@Chic_Ken]

Just like mental health lol

[@catcat2607]

If a super skinny supermodel (I.e. Adrianna Lima) wore a sack and it was styled they could make it cute which is maybe what they’re thinking of, but that’s a whole different league to an average skinny person. They’re paid to serve in nothing.

[@Nakia11798]

It makes sense that Raven would marry someone who WASN'T a fan before they met.

[@Omnihilo]

Honestly. These people are genuinely creepy.

[@speedyllama8380]

That's what I was thinking. I was thinking that most celebs would either want a fellow celeb, or someone who doesn't know who they are. Because who would want the pressure from a fawning fan... You'll never be able to live up to the standards that they'll set for you. You'll never be as awesome as they have you in their mind.

[@RCenal]

Oh damn My life has meaning now 😅

[@mephistopheles4910]

The girl faking the pregnancy didn't just fake being pregnant. She lore dumped about potential fertility issues and the conflict she was facing as a young single mother as a gotcha. That's sociopathic behavior.

[@Itsstuff7328]

And then miscarriage 😬😬😬 Sick.

[@jd5368]

Raven's wife just seems uncomfortable being on camera--I don't think she's jealous of Raven's attention or trying to hog the spotlight.

[@dismurrart6648]

It'd also just be so weird talking to someone that obsessed with your partner

[@elishh8173]

There's another side to this story. A channel did a deep dive and allegedly she married Raven for her money and she definitely knew about raven before. She was a fan but understood she wouldn't get Raven if she showed she was a fan. She wanted that bag...

[@Laf631]

@@elishh8173 It's nasty to spread baseless rumors. Raven-Symone is 38 years old. She can choose her own marital partner without people acting like she's a child too unaware of the people she surrounds herself with.

[@annjepsen1621]

​@@elishh8173 And where's the proof?

[@private755]

Right? So many people aren’t after that kind of attention.

[@NotACat2237]

Maybe the fact she's not a fan or hasn't seen her work would mean that she loves Raven for Raven and not because she's a celebrity? If an author writes a book, does their spouse have to read it? If your partner works at a retail store do you have to shop at that store or you don't really love them?

[@Kelfieb]

Right? It’s almost better that she wasn’t all obsessed with her before they even met.

[@no-uhuh]

Beautiful point ❤

[@SuperAmyRose01]

People keep forgetting that celebrities are human like us, they just have a ton of money. There not gods 🙄 Some of them are just down to earth like that and want their privacy too 😑

[@lacountess]

It’s jealousy. They are jealous she got her and they didn’t and now they found an excuse to pummel her.

[@Dizzyydesii]

I don't watch my mans twitch streams, COD is not my thing 😂 and he does not watch my yt shorts and were doing fine lol

[@annorraxx4341]

At least Raven defended her wife. It would have been fucked up if she didn’t. People are insane

[@Long_May_They_Raine]

“Is it BECAUSE she was black?” 🤣 FANNITA WAS SO MESSY FOR THATTTT

[@wmverk]

She should have said _yes_ in a dry sarcastic way just to see that chicks response 😏

[@tamiausten873]

This is just messy. I'm a Disney Gen Z kid. Most kids I grew up with in Nigeria watched Disney on DSTV cable and I sure as hell remember That's so Raven, Cody in the House and Shake it up because of the black characters that were there and I wasn't even aware of race issues at the time. I rewatch that's so Raven now, the theme song slaps and I spotted her in Princess diaries and Fresh prince. However, I have never watched Cheetah Girls but I've heard about it 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️.

[@lacountess]

@@tamiausten873I grew up outside North America too. One time I said to a black friend of mine here in Canada that when I was growing up I always wished I’d look like Whitney Houston one day. She said, “Really? But she’s black.” I was confused for days, especially since Whitney’s skin was the same color as mine most of her life. I always struggle with the North American definition of Racism.

[@sierralorraine7003]

She is always messy. Her outlook on things is toxic. Period.

[@violetviolent7980]

@@sierralorraine7003 Exactly, and victimization is running rampant.

[@ambereye3780]

If I was Raven I would be weirded out if my wife grew up watching me and was a fan. Maybe that’s just me. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Kipicus]

My thoughts exactly.

[@CaitlinGrant-cb6rw]

I think most celebrities are so jaded they’d be offended if their partner didn’t know everything about their career.

[@Mialikesthings]

@@CaitlinGrant-cb6rwTrust me there are quite a lot that will pretty much be ok with a non-fan

[@simsimah]

Period. I got a job at a popular tv company because I didn’t listen to or know many of the artists. Lol

[@HorrorandScience]

The fake pregnancy girl is disgusting. My sister lost her baby and it took years for her to recover after she had a breakdown. Let's not forget that she makes fun of para social relationships, then makes a Patreon that can encourage that behavior. She's not funny, creative or interesting.

[@carlosthomas3131]

My immediate words after hearing it was a "joke" was "that's sick"

[@lacountess]

She’ll be out of the spot light in a few years tops. One thing about all talentless hacks is that they peak early, but soon fade into obscurity once the initial hype goes away.

[@cjevans3640]

She clearly doesn’t understand the difference between empathy and being parasocial. Not emotionally or mentally intelligent enough for this conversation.

[@sophiacalon3463]

She could’ve used any other subject but instead she decided to fake being pregnant and having infertility issues, a very hard and devastating reality for so many women.

[@sicksadperson8093]

I wouldnt call her talentless. She is very talented in visual arts and ballet.

[@anyanaylor]

"Is it because she's black" is a WILD question to ask someone just because they didn't watch a kids show?? I'm black and have never watched that's so raven in my life because I wasn't a Disney channel kid. If people stopped pulling the race card randomly maybe we could actually progress as a society

[@terejosh13]

no we should just not talk about it or become Florida because yeah that's helpful

[@LaFlor718]

@@terejosh13Florida is a pretty big state, what’s happening all over Florida that makes it where the race card needs to be pulled constantly? I haven’t seen anything from Raven Simone since the Cosby show, because I just didn’t, however I still know how respected and talented she is. I just don’t understand the correlation.

[@violetviolent7980]

Well, I would've been highly sarcastic back to the jerk, for implying am bigoted because I didn't watch a certain program, I'll take it to the level of 11 until she got the hint.

[@GFAprodite]

I Think It Was A Legit Question. Some Shows Don't Appeal To White People, Some Shows Are Targeted To Black People.

[@silververnallbells191]

@@GFAprodite & white people still watch those shows & vice versa.

[@zarajones5428]

I’d say it takes a lot to offend me these days but that pregnancy stunt was PAINFUL

[@reborka]

Agreed. There’s certainly a difference in being edgy or making a crass joke and just being plain horrible

[@samanthalevenson7912]

Especially for people who have miscarriages or in my case had a lot of trouble conceiving and just being so worried about losing them. Her behavior is disgusting

[@knucklescapricorn31]

Same. It's like faking there's a death in the family. Everyone has either gone through it or knows someone who has gone through it, and everyone knows how fucking traumatic it can be. So, to pretend that you are going through that same trauma and have people give you kindness and support, only to turn around and say "it's just a joke", is pretty fucked up.

[@DragonQuicksilver]

It's never okay to fake a pregnancy, in my opinion (at least, I cannot think of a scenario where that is really okay). For her then to announce a miscarriage - a traumatizing event - then say she made it all up to advertise her Patreon makes it extra gross. I just do not understand how people think this is remotely acceptable.

[@cjevans3640]

It’s fucking disgusting. There’s a difference between having empathy and being parasocial, she’s clearly doesn’t have the emotional or mental intelligence to understand that

[@SeleneCast00]

Michelle faked a pregnancy to then teach us about her endometriosis and hysterectomy. Even if it was educational and a window into Michelle's life, that felt a bit icky to me. Caroline's stunt was really manipulative and turned me off from her content/style of comedy.

[@idontreallyknowagoodname4191]

I honestly cannot say that I care or find anything wrong with it. I understand that it may trigger some people with fertility issues, but like, there are so mny people intentionally triggering people who go through bad stuff, I dont think that the pregnancy thing is especially or more heinous than what you usually get (from aholes that love to trigger peoples bad experiences) . EDIT: because wanting a child is inherently selfish and not a necessity. People love to trigger f.e. people who have been through traumatic stuff like actual w4r, which is an event that is out of said peoples control, and people make jokes about that left and right. But its heinous when somebody makes a pregnancy joke? You can CHOOSE to accept not being able to have a child. A child is NOT a right and NOT a necessity. Things like safety are. Im not saying its not traumatic to have fertility issues and m1sscarriages and my heart goes out to all who have those problems. But I do not understand why people make this such an incredibly big deal. When all that is at the bottom is that people who have the egotistical desire to have biological children get triggered. Maybe Im too insensitive tho.

[@givebackmybreadsticks]

​@@idontreallyknowagoodname4191 you in fact insensitive, and spouting anti-natalism talking points isnt going to convince anyone that faking a pregnancy isn't weird. yes, it is usually a choice to have a child but there are lots of jokes about pregnancy and kids and such - the problem is faking it. it isnt that pregnancy is untouchable as a subject, but it is deeply personal and sensitive to many women. it doesnt require much sensitivity or empathy to understand why they dont like people pretending to experience the most vunerable, delicate and painful time of their lives that sometimes ends in tragedy for youtube clicks. i even agree that having kids is a decision for the self and no child chooses to be born but that doesn't take away from the fact it is offensive to many and frankly weird af to fake a pregnancy and ESPECIALLY a miscarriage

[@Lunchladydoyle]

@@idontreallyknowagoodname4191If only your mom felt the same way

[@catus-cactus]

People forget Miranda is older than her. Also I thought Raven didn’t want to have a thing to do with any of the shoes she’s been on.

[@TheBLGL]

I just looked it up and Raven was born in 1985 and her wife in 1987.

[@taylorhillard4868]

Even if they were the same age, the demographic for the show was younger than she was. Which is kind of how it usually goes. Most shows that feauture high-school setting are meant for middleschoolers or younger. So she was probably older than the demographic by the time it came on the air, even if they are the same age.

[@KeeKeeSoto]

I was born in 1987 and I was obsessed with That's So Raven lol. But maybe she was watching something else 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@FirstFallSnow]

​@@TheBLGL And that's so raven premiered in 2003 so her wife would have been 15/16 at the start and 20/21 when it ended. Not really shocking that she didn't watch a show aimed at 10-14 year olds.

[@DavidKen878]

@@taylorhillard4868 It doens’t matter what age she was. If she didn’t watch it’s becuase she didn’t want to watch. You all are acting like being a certain age means you have to watch certain shows.

[@amandaborkhart]

Raven fans are mad that her wife loves her for her and not her fame? Weird. But Im so glad Raven has a wife who does love her for herself. Also I too never seen "Thats So Raven" but I still know shes a total baddie in the disney world Im a 20 yr old with a one year old. I've been seeing this new phenomenon of young girls getting pregnant and having their babies and becoming a sahm. But these girls will have like 2 or 3 under the age of 4. I love my crotch gremlin, but I still wish I had a life beyond her. To lie about being pregnant at a young age is stupid when there's people out there like me struggling at the fact I am a young mom and had to sacrifice my life over a mistake I made.

[@t3hpenguinofd00m]

Wow, that last line is rough. I'm sorry :(

[@pinkanimositygaming]

I appreciate your honesty and the fact that you’re taking proper accountability for your decisions.

[@mandypandy9587]

It's gonna be good don't worry, you be living your best life in your 40s when it's actually fun, so life isn't over and can still be so fun and amazing. It'll all work out

[@carlygreen2293]

I was 22 when I had my first, and am now 28 w/ a 5 & 2 year old. I *promise* things get easier as you ALL get older. Of course they'll be your focus, but you'll find your very own groove for yall and will be able to do things you like and it won't just be ALL CONSUMING like it is when they're so little and need you so much. Plus, they end up a lot like you lol so they'll love a lot of the things you love and it's actually hella fun. Keep your head up, and just *try* to enjoy it. It's YOUR life, too

[@jammytomato]

Lizzo, denied wanting to be a face of fat acceptance until she realized she could use fat phobia as an excuse to get out of all her disgusting actions and words.

[@evelynnnyt]

I don’t understand how other celebrities got cancelled yet she’s still going strong

[@nopeninja9765]

@@evelynnnyt That fat must be a layer of protection.

[@jammytomato]

@@evelynnnyt the fat acceptance crazies will hide the knife for her if she asked them to

[@imhomephobicdontshowmehous2478]

@@nopeninja9765 Ohh lord 🤣🤣

[@K_idk]

@@nopeninja9765oh thank you just make my day

[@cosmicbeauty5682]

I think some celebrities who marry ppl that aren't that familiar with them or their work find it refreshing in a way. Some celebs feel that their person married them for them and not for their fame imo.

[@tamiausten873]

I mean, lots of people think Hailey Bieber is basically a stalker to her husband. Truth is we should stop acting like we care so much about people we've never met. They are over there doing their own thing and we are doing ours. Live and let live, y'all.

[@shannonyoder9199]

It must be exhausting for people who have to make drama about absolutely nothing. They don't even know these people, why do they care???

[@jsuarmy08]

Exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself.

[@anniemacleod]

That girl who faked her pregnancy is truly dead and vacant inside.

[@beverlyhills8988]

"Is it because she's black?"... what? 😂

[@didgya]

Says the creepy fan 😅

[@violetviolent7980]

Well, yes that interviewer is a real creepy .

[@corvidaedalus]

fr. like,,, they're literally MARRIED???

[@beverlyhills8988]

@@corvidaedalus right! That's an interesting brand of racism "I'm willing to have sex with the woman, but I draw the line at taking interest in her career 😤"

[@BaconNMegs]

How tf did she not learn that faking pregnancy is literally never okay.

[@starsantheoriginal]

I mean, if people were threatening my husband and sending him death threats, I would definitely step in and say something.

[@Toastymosty69]

And not smile in front of the camera 😂 I would definitely have the same face one too 😂

[@pettykittyfam]

Lets be honest Gypsy Rose is so damaged & destroyed and how is she supposed to know how to deal with life's issues? I know she's a grown adult & responsible for herself... I just wish she would go private and try to learn about the world & how to live & process all this stuff. Anyway after a childhood of extreme multi-leveled abuse, I just feel sorry for her & want her to have some kind of normalcy and I don't want to see her continue to ruin her public persona. I wish her the best ❤️🙏❤️ Love ya Michelle Been here for ages now... Under 30k subs when I got here! Girl you are gonna hit that million I know it ❤

[@railynne6697]

I’m with you on that!

[@DavidKen878]

Her public persona? I really wish you Gypsy Rose supporters knew how ridiculous you sound make comments like this. You’re so pressed to victimize her that you literally project your own feelings onto her. She’s damaged and destroyed? She doesn’t know how to deal with life’s issues? What are you talking about? She didn’t arrive here from another planet, she knows how the world works. Why do you think she doesn’t? Aside from the fact she’s not living her life the way YOU want her to, what about her says she doesn’t have normalcy in her life? Stop trying to dictate what she should/shouldn’t do based on what you want. Not only does she not have a positive public persona, but she said she doen’t care what you or anyone else thinks.

[@guichabanaano27]

Yeah she needs some sort of help with adjusting to normal life since she has never experienced it before.

[@K_idk]

@@guichabanaano27and learn how to have a relationship with her children

[@alexandrajackson2306]

That last girl faking a pregnancy and miscarriage pissed me off. These 20 year olds have the " weird" sense of humor. From their "prank" videos to crap like this it makes me realize how detached they are from reality.

[@jdhutchinson506]

I like what she said about mothers Day. As a person with a terrible relationship with my own mom, Mothers Day is crazy complicated.

[@belleclose]

Instead of faking a pregnancy, it would have been more sensible to fake a vacation at Ikea, like Natalia Taylor did a few years ago. It was funny, harmless, and brought many new viewers to her channel.

[@marmor3957]

That is such a good observation. Thank you for remind me of it

[@tabitharatchford7404]

Some of us grew up in families that didn’t buy cable or satellite television. The only time I got to watch Disney growing up was when we were on vacation at a hotel or if it was on at a friend’s house. It’s funny when people are so into celebrities that they can’t fathom the fact that other people aren’t as interested in celebrities as they are.

[@Jaybirdieblue]

Also, nickelodeon AND cartoon network were very popular at this time? Like me and my brother barely watched disney, we were nick and cartoon network kids.

[@jessica5470]

If I were her I would've said that just to make a point, "sorry I wasn't privileged and wealthy enough to watch Disney, I didn't know being poor made me racist"

[@whatchyagonnado]

Facts lol

[@UncleMikeDrop]

Maybe, Celebrities would prefer to NOT mix the social with the parasocial when it comes to romantic involvement. Dating and marrying a fan would create a weird power dynamic.

[@BelinaBelii]

Can we just talk about his sentence “I always think men are the catch” SIR did you considered dating a MAN then ??????

[@xSwordLilyx]

I don't know him but I kind of thought maybe he was trying not to objectify his wife a lil clumsily

[@crazyratlady3115]

These men are the catch in the same way that you can catch like, chlamydia or norovirus.

[@diamandis07]

And they are NEVER the catch. There are literally thousands of men exactly like them. Like sir, sit your generic ass down.

[@giaelie3283]

Here's hoping Simone got a pre-nup. It's best to get that 1st marriage over with when you're young.

[@VultureClone]

I also did a double take. Like look at what she has achieved and then look at him...what has he done exactly to merit being a "catch" over her?

[@faithcrisis2138]

Faking a pregnancy and miscarriage for patreon subs is the most tone deaf thing a young woman can do.

[@lorelei619]

I agree with the comments that for Raven marrying someone who wasn't a fan probably makes sense. As for Gypsy, I've started unfollowing people who needlessly bash her. People complain about how she wants attention meanwhile they're giving it to her. She is problematic in a lot of ways, but I would expect that from an abused and emotionally stunted adult getting freedom for the first time. This video was totally normal though, I think. She is right, her feelings about her abuser are her own and no one can or should tell her how to feel.

[@francesengland79]

I understand Gypsy a little. I had an abusive mom. In my 20s, I would have said “f*ck that b…” and after therapy, my feeling are still occasionally along those lines, but no one else better say anything bad about my mom because my mom was (and still is) mentally ill. Having empathy towards your abuser is such a weird complicated emotion.

[@xSwordLilyx]

sammee forgiveness is for yourself

[@Em_Elizabeth]

Yes, I got my mother a gift this mother's day and was later wondering why I did something nice for a mom with narcissistic traits.

[@bethlovesben]

I think people are very lucky if they don’t understand the mental yo-yo that people with abusive parents live and run through everyday until they die. They grew you. They raised you. And they failed you when you were most vulnerable. And society let them fail you. It’s a lot to process -

[@WyldFyreFli]

Omg I think it would be so much weirder if her wife had grown up like obsessed with Raven ya know? Like I'm sure she appreciates it.

[@Erinb8185]

Faking pregnancy loss to show that people connected to something that wasn't real... I had a miscarriage and a stillbirth. After either situation it's very common to the to seek out people who have been through your situation before. And if you don't know someone with the same challenge, it's very normal to seek others with a similar experience online. I imagine the same would go for people struggling with fertility issues. This woman should be more sorry than she is. I'll pray for her. Parents, try to stop your kids from becoming influencers before their brains are fully developed.

[@mcomeslast]

That blood thing is a belief. When I was in the Air Force, my first base was in Louisiana, several of the local guys admitted they didn’t eat anything tomato based at a girlfriend’s. No chili, spaghetti sauce. They just said “ it was a local thing”.

[@itsnotrounditsapyramid]

Whaaaaa

[@mcomeslast]

@@itsnotrounditsapyramid Louisiana, still a lot of folks who watch out for voodoo.

[@Em_Elizabeth]

Has anyone else also coincidentally eaten spaghetti with tomato sauce and not feel queasy hearing this?

[@mcomeslast]

@@Em_Elizabeth freaked me out when I heard it. I thought the first guy was making it up. The second was a Sargent and he was like “ no, guys have to be careful, here”.

[@steadystudying]

Yeah, that's so raven was popular but we weren't living in the hyper-social media culture that we are in now where not knowing someone so popular was unfathomable. Also, her wife is not acting like Raven isn't famous. She acknowledges that she was an icon in her time (and still arguably).

[@_politefrog_8892]

Of all the complicated names in Hollywood, Sensen Lii is one of the easiest to pronounce lol

[@Baby_ghost__b]

Yeah but it's not that of a big deal.

[@_politefrog_8892]

@@Baby_ghost__b I don’t think it’s a big deal either. I was just expecting a more complicated name instead of 3 syllables lol

[@silververnallbells191]

@@Baby_ghost__b It is when she got a dress worth THOUSANDS for free. That's why you're SUPPOSED to say the designers name. It's an I'll scratch your back you scratch mine. It's downright RUDE & UNPROFESSIONAL.

[@sydney6268]

@@Baby_ghost__b Idk, I feel like it's pretty unprofessional and disrespectful. That being said, I'm sure the designer will have way more name recognition now as a result of the drama.

[@Baby_ghost__b]

@@sydney6268 I understand but let's be serious it's a rich people problem. I'm sorry if I sounded arrogant though it's just that I thought it was something more outrageous like hitting with your mic on your fan.

[@egodeathalone]

Staying up past sunrise sometimes has benefits, like being able to watch this early before I go to bed. I love your witch look by the way!

[@zoe_dawg]

When do you go to sleep

[@IamBess123]

idk about america but where i live you had to pay in order to watch channels like disney channel and nickelodeon so like it’s not uncommon that people haven’t watched certain shows bc they couldn’t afford it

[@ThePinkPanth3r]

Not sure if it was available when raven was on, but they had nearly free cable around that time for people on welfare.

[@ThePinkPanth3r]

In the United States we have welfare cable for poor people.

[@sixftturkey]

ok but fr the pause at 15:06 A+++

[@Trisshhaa]

We didn’t have cable so there was no Disney for us. We had Cartoon Network and pbs…

[@KudukUngol]

@@ThePinkPanth3r Where? I've never heard of this.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

She used one of a mother-to-be's biggest fears as a joke and people were offended? I'm shocked./S

[@Jess-pd8fy]

I vividly remember people being angry at Fanita for the “all people aren’t beautiful” but it did blow over faster compared to Leo’s controversy

[@macylouwho]

Michelle, I found your videos in November and have since lost 50 pounds while having insulin resistant PCOS. You inspire me so much! Thank you!

[@taniajs]

10:51 I like how this girl herself had to pause and remember the designer's name lmao

[@CassielSardavic]

I mean, any foreign name can be difficult to pronounce. If the dress was made by a white Polish person with a very Polish name I'd be stammering over that too. It is bizarre to assume struggling over how to pronounce a name in a foreign language means you dont think that person is worthwhile or deserves praise.

[@alex.profi27]

White polish is an oxymoron. Polish people are inherently white. Polish is an ethnicity. this isn t america when american means only a nationality.

[@CassielSardavic]

@@alex.profi27 fair enough, however, I used white polish to specify for those that would bring up other ethnicities that are Polish citizens or grew up in Poland. I can't say English people with the expectation that it means white people because there are many black English people. Globalization has blurred some of these lines when speaking on citizenship vs ancestral ethnicity. I find being specific helps communicate this meaning.

[@jessica5470]

I agree but cardi didn't seem to even make any effort to remember his name, he wasn't important enough for her to even try to remember

[@fawn2911]

​@@alex.profi27as someone who is an afro-slav...you can be polish and black

[@alex.profi27]

@@fawn2911 no, you can t There a reason you are half polish The fact that you people make half seem the same as full native is racist

[@itssimvty]

As someone who had a miscarriage last year, homegirl is pretty weird for the little stunt

[@melissas4874]

I would think it good that a famous person's spouse hasn't watched their shows. It means they are interested in the person and not the celebrity.

[@amazonlikesanime17]

cardi b is honestly so real for that, I remember faces instantly but it can take me ages to remember a name; people need to calm down, everyone forgets names or confuses them sometimes

[@chanelmybelle]

Same here

[@areitikeyks]

Yeah I'm mixed race but look irish as hell but my name is really odd sounding and spelled. Dad named me after a fantasy book character. I only take offense when you keep saying it wrong after being corrected multiple times by me and other people. Dude people add letters and syllables that aren't even there. I have no n in my name and yet people ad that letter in all the time. I only have one a in my name and I've had people add three. No c in my name and I had a teacher call me katricia all year long. People are just lazy as fuck, and rude, not necessarily racist. Please tell me how you get katricia from Kitiera when you have a God damn attendance print out in front of you?

[@justsaying8358]

I would agree with you if it was another occasion, but she's there literally to be pretty and say the name of the designer. The whole point is to showcase the designers, every single celebrities is assigned to a designer and they work together so how in hell you're not going to know the name even if you botched it

[@SweetPhantom]

Cardi isn’t the first celebrity to forget the name of a designer and she won’t be the last. If she had said the name and butchered it, she still would have been criticized.

[@amazonlikesanime17]

@@areitikeyks yeah I totally get that, my name is literally 5 letters and its super easy but people constantly add letters that aren't there, including family members

[@jojoskoglund6128]

Unrelated, but man that witchy look is FIREEE ❤ as a goth, i think ur fit is amazing, perfect for the "mothers day" ish vibe ❤ mother gothel (yes, i spelled it that way)

[@evelynnnyt]

Much love to you and all the goths, emo, and other alternative peeps 🖤

[@markramos1216]

Raven and Miranda literally look like Gary Coleman and Ruby Franke in the addressing the hate TikTok. That’s why no one’s taking them seriously. 😂

[@Wanda-j8x]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Kate-n2310]

My god, you can’t accuse everyone of being fatphobic every time they don’t like your clothes 💀

[@dwijatrivedi33]

I have been watching you for 4 years now since I was 15. I love your videos Michelle ❤

[@amandab8438]

I went through a miscarriage just last month after 2 years of trying to get pregnant. For someone to fake all of that is beyond disgusting. It’s such a horrible experience, and she just did it to promote her patreon? Are you kidding? I wouldn’t wish what I, and so many women/couples go through because it’s just completely soul crushing.

[@jtee788]

Some kids only watched Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. IIRC, the Disney Channel didn't come with basic cable in some places.

[@OmgPandamonium]

I never saw cheetah girls because we couldn’t afford the Disney channel 🤷‍♀️

[@brandoncole5533]

Up until a few weeks ago I would've been shocked but my bubble burst when my friends had no idea who the hell wiggles were

[@SamanthaHutchins-cs3pz]

Been watching you for years especially when im on the stair stepper i went from going to the gym to being a personal trainer and your almost at 1 million 😢❤

[@LaPenserosa1]

In the interview with Oprah, Meghan Markle said she didn't know who Harry was or any of the English royal family lore. Harry didn't look insulted, he seemed relieved. Given the infamous and destructive people and organizations Raven was exposed to as a child, I would think like with Harry, she'd be relieved not to have to talk about those people and organizations when they met someone they wanted to spend their lives with. Personally, I feel like you'd have grown up in a household without a TV or a radio not to know who Raven is. I can't believe that Simone Biles' husband didn't know who she was, maybe not on sight but surely after hearing her name?! 😂 She was on the cover of every newspaper and magazine for some time. I got nothin' for his circumstances.

[@victoriavilagines5596]

The complicated name stitch had me rolling…just look at my last name. My full name sounds like a Harry Potter enchantment. Asian names arent the only ones that are complicated 😂 I obviously feel for the dismissals due to names, but it’s hilarious that some ppl get hurt that ppl don’t know how to pronounce your name. If someone says my name wrong I just…move on ✨

[@user-is7xs1mr9y]

People have misspelled my first name my whole life and it used to bother me, but I never threw a fit. Now I don't really care, as long as it's not a legal document I'm fine with it. 🤷

[@victoriavilagines5596]

@@user-is7xs1mr9y exactly! Do you know how many times in professional environment and out my name was butchered 😂 my bank regularly misspells my name. Graduation was hilarious, having them say my full name and see my parents' amused looks was the best.

[@Michellemcd543]

You should see some of the comments when I don’t say a name right. Like people really get offended and think I do it on purpose lol.

[@victoriavilagines5596]

@@Michellemcd543 the entitlement is ridiculous 😂 keep doing your thing, you're amazing ♥️

[@kelsin8854]

People mispronounce my name all the time when they first hear it.

[@NekoAioshi]

Thank you so much for keeping me in the know Michelle! Doing Godzilla's work 🙏

[@Ayelet.M]

Pfffffff they are comparing Cheetah Girls to Mean Girls?!

[@sharaineroberts8537]

I haven't celebrated the coming of summer since I joined the workforce 😂.

[@fizzy_buzz]

real

[@angelaatkinson-brazis7104]

I am so not looking forward to summer. My baby is due at the end of october. As of right now in northern california, it is 9:25 am and already 82 degrees.

[@sharaineroberts8537]

@@angelaatkinson-brazis7104 Yikes!!!

[@11o78aa]

Michelle you should cosplay Lady Dimitrescu or one of her daughters, also I love your videos🫡

[@dreadyberry7669]

I don’t find it odd that her wife didn’t watch her earlier work….neither do I think she needed to go back and watch it. Maybe she seen her on the view or something else….either way they seem to be happy and in love

[@jackieolson6412]

As someone who recently experienced a pregnancy loss, it is never acceptable to lie about that. Even more hurtful to make it a huge sick joke. That is a loss I will never fully get over and for someone to use it so casually is painful in a way I can't describe.

[@coricopia1145]

That last crazy bih makes Jojo Siwa seem normal

[@melissabrooks8555]

Ilysm Michelle. Since watching your channel I’ve lost forty pounds, fixed my blood pressure, and I’m a baddie again. Thanks for your candor.

[@Birchlead]

Wait so the black community loves Raven again? I thought they all hated her after the watermelondria stuff years ago lmao called her anti black. But if they can push a narritive through her I guess!!!!!

[@Michellemcd543]

Lmfao! Omg I remember that!!!

[@pennyproud1621]

Yeah they weirdos I personally didn't forget that bullshh. But that's don't mean I don't still love the That's So Raven show and the Cheetah Girl's first movie. But her as person, no IDC for Raven. She's a weirdo. Ppl are fickle though.

[@healthysquishyorange]

Another great video Michelle! Also I wanted to point out, not everyone had cable in the early 2000s. I’m an early 2000s kid and I don’t remember any episode of that’s so Raven (the plot etc.) that I’ve ever watched. I was on pbs kids until about 2007 or 2009. I don’t get why everyone my age is always so shocked about me not remembering the theme song of Hannah Montana or any other show from that time.

[@oogiechannel]

As someone with dyslexia, I don't blame Cardi for not knowing the name or pronunciation. It ain't that deep lol

[@LaPenserosa1]

If seeing a certain name doesn't occur a lot in your life or it's the first time you've ever seen it, makes perfect sense that it'd be hard to recall. Her publicist/handler/assistant should have anticipated that and helped her out.

[@silververnallbells191]

It is actually. She got that dress for free w/the understanding she would give him publicity by saying his name on the red carpet. What she did is completely UNPROFESSIONAL & Rude.

[@back2s0ul]

Monster High is a gateway to custom bjds. It was only a matter of time.

[@Michellemcd543]

I’m literally going to a convention for them..it’s getting very dangerous 😂

[@28HummingBird92]

Good morning!! I've never caught one of your videos so shortly after being posted!! Hi 👋

[@Mpxyzm2by]

Caroline is so weird for what she did… not us lol

[@Pinkoala4207]

“I don’t care what anyone thinks”…. *posts on account with 60000 followers and talks to audience about your murdered mom*

[@llamasugar5478]

Lizzo’s dress looks like an umbrella that got turned inside out.

[@renepeters945]

I can't get over how stupid the term "fatphobia" is... I'm not scared of people that are fat, I just don't feel like getting health issues that can kill me because of being fat. Also, NO ONE would look good in that dress.

[@HaleyNichole69]

Lizzos dress looks like that Mosquito shield from the Even Stevens movie

[@compubijou]

Dude, both Raven and her wife are only 2 years younger than me, and I grew up in a house that could afford the Disney Channel, I NEVER watched That's So Raven or Cheetah Girls, and wouldn't have two years prior, because I was too busy watching South Park and Adult Swim. I grew up with The Cosby Show and keep forgetting that Raven was the baby girl in that... According to Google, Fannita was born 12 years after these two were born, so I could definitely see a little 4 year old being gaga over Raven, not a 16 year old at that time.

[@kristin6351]

A lot of celebs prefer to be with people who AREN’T fans and honestly that’s a better dynamic.

[@trentenmerrill5239]

Trauma and PTSD is very complicated... I understand why she has very mixed feelings about her mom... That is very understandable and not unusual for someone in her position at all. I would downright say that the way she feels is completely NORMAL... A NORMAL person would have very complex emotions about her mom in her position. She is just being a human being and I actually sympathize with her on this situation.

[@naurrrre]

what the hell with people casually sending death threats nowadays

[@Myremec]

Welcome to the internet, where people feel liberated by the feeling of being able to say whatever they want with minimal consequence (in most cases).

[@KITTYKITTYBO]

I remember once seeing an interview with William Shatner/captain Kirk, and his wife didn’t even know who he was and didn’t watch anything of his

[@fizzy_buzz]

"Get that WAP Raven" AYOOO?!

[@BaconNMegs]

I cant imagine calling Thats so Raven a legacy like that 😂

[@wizziboo]

It is…..

[@KeeKeeSoto]

​@@wizzibooyes, it definitely is ‼️

[@BaconNMegs]

I agree it is a legacy on its own, but she was also a teenager and I'm sure she has done other things in her life since then so I just meant that in that clip I found it funny she was like trying to shame her as if how could she not know of thays so raven, when in reality it was a kids TV show so a lot of people didn't see it. Definitely didn't mean it in an ugly way

[@juanpablorobayo3437]

The idea that people can just send death threats to someone’s spouse and people are just supposed to let them is INSANE. Raven was excellent here. Imagine if she hadn’t defended her? It’d be horrible

[@thecolosseumpodcast7937]

Good morning Michelle just want to tell you I love your videos and you have help me so much ❤️ I hope you have a great day

[@randomchik62]

That whole pregnancy story was so crazy. Like she knew she was dead wrong for that and there were soooooo many other ways to portray how weird parasocial relationships are

[@lyasialeanne]

Good morning Michelle

[@nicestdrummergrl]

Yooooo this is by far my FAVORITE video of yours!!! You always have me cracking up, but this one right here?!?!?? I nearly SCREAMED dyin in laughter and it's 3am while I'm watchin this!! GIRL YOU are hilarious!! I'm not even half way thru your video and I just wanna replay the 1st segment on Raven's wife over and over!! 😂😂😂

[@frostnova2144]

Michelle loves the witch and spooky aesthetic so much she makes me second guess if we're suddenly in October already each and every time 😂

[@nokels]

I am so sick of random and uninvolved people championing others perceived slights

[@sarahaque1382]

The caroline thing was probably the worst one imo, i hate when young women make jokes about things they dont understand, pregnancy is a genuine hard thing to go through and so is a miscarriage YOU CAN LITERALLY FUCKIMG DIE FROM A MISCARRIWGE and i hate how normalised it is and how they joke about it with 0 empathy

[@idontreallyknowagoodname4191]

While what you say is true, its important to note that all things pregnancy related (as long as you actively WANTED to be pregnant) are simply things you have to take into consideration when you make the selfish decision to have a child. Because having and wanting children is nothing more or less than selfishness. And thats okay- *however* i dont see why people shouldnt joke about pregnancy etc. People joke about heinous stuff like w4r all the time, yet its suddenly awful and a scandal when someone jokes about the natural possibilities of the fullfillment of a selfish desire (to have a child)? I dint understand that tbh.

[@givebackmybreadsticks]

​@@idontreallyknowagoodname4191wow, i did not expect to see another insensitive comment from you. please try and look inward for some empathy - knowing that something tragic may happen due to the choice to have a child does not reduce any of the pain of the tragedy or physical effects.

[@idontreallyknowagoodname4191]

@@givebackmybreadsticks Of course the pain is still horrendous- I am NOT denying that it is painful and traumatic. That is not my point at all.

[@ELalaurette]

@@idontreallyknowagoodname4191 how is having a child selfish? having a child means dedicating your entire time and life to care for and love that child, no disrespect but your world view is quite alarming to say the least.

[@idontreallyknowagoodname4191]

@@ELalaurette Ask yourself- WHY do you want a biological child? Becaise YOU want to dedicate your life to bringing up your own flesh and blood. That is selfish. Youre doing it because you WANT to do that. There is no child yet that actively demands you to dedicate your life to them. You are choosing to create that life in order to have a child. That is selfish and it is *okay* that that is selfish. All humans are selfish. Wanting a child is selfish, but it doesnt mean that wanting a child is bad. I understand wanting children. But lets be real, it is the desire of the self to procreate, which is selfish.

[@myo5501]

I like that Raven's wife didn't watch her shows, actually! There wasn't really any chance for a parasocial relationship before the romance thanks to that

[@Kaza0kun]

Wow...I am...not happy with how she pretended to be pregnant. I struggled for YEARS to finally have my beautiful son, and that's so frustrating.

[@tzionaliora4314]

Right on time for my workout 🙌🏽

[@kyndal2769]

right?! I loooove watching Michelle while I walk the treadmill!

[@egodeathalone]

​@kyndal2769 I can't watch anything while on the treadmill, I end up getting dizzy and tripping over myself or nearly falling off it lol

[@kyndal2769]

@@egodeathalone oohhh no! i’m sorry that happens to you. 😧

[@SavvyMuhon]

I’ve had two miscarriages, and they were both extremely debilitating. Those were during early pregnancy too. Pregnancy at the stage she was faking would be a medical emergency. I think she’s going through her “not like the other girls” phase and wants to act like she’s smarter than everyone else

[@princessaroyale]

What she did has nothing to do with being a pick me💀 sounds like projection from your part

[@SavvyMuhon]

@@princessaroyale Excuse me? Did we watch the same girl?

[@princessaroyale]

@@SavvyMuhon she tricked her followers so she could get patreon members which has nothing to do with being a pick me or not like other girls which is why i said it sounds like projection from your part

[@kokosowek]

Another video to watch on my walk

[@elivial5525]

I would fall on my face lol. Podcast style for me

[@ambersummer2685]

She fell in love and married Raven, you just watched her on tv as a child….. Who’s in the better spot here? Who’s living in her house, eating her food and sharing the same bed?🧐 14:31 Regarding Gypsy Rose, it sounds like mother’s day reminded her that she wished she had a good healthy relationship with her mother. That was the only mother figure she knew so I don’t blame her for her statements for mother’s day.

[@melaniegrace7707]

Those contacts look so good though