Lonely Men are DANGEROUS Men | The Rise of Lonely, Single Men

[@ForHarriet619]

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[@gus6905]

As a gay cis man, it is so frustrating how it appears to be so unbearable to feel “lonely” for straight men, because growing up queer, you are already conditioned to feel this way, and for me, I had no choice but to accept my circumstances and focus on my own self growth. But these straight men think that THEY are suddenly the ones feeling excluded or alienated when they can’t get a date within the next 10 mins of talking to a woman. It is so frustrating it’s laughable.

[@jasminemoon9965]

Hit the nail on the head. Plenty of us are lonely but somehow how straight men turn into something only they experience, and an excuse to potentially be violent. It’s wild and annoying

[@deezname6417]

I wish I could like this more than once

[@Kaylakaykay1997]

@@jasminemoon9965 This💯💯💯

[@jdmmg4904]

@@deezname6417 same:)!

[@CatHasOpinions734]

I think a part of it might also be that we have a lot of societal messaging that there's something wrong with you if you don't have a partner. Granted, everyone gets this to an extent, but sometimes it seems like straight guys get it worse. I have a close friend who was seriously worried that there was something fundamentally wrong with him because he hadn't had that kind of relationship. Turns out, he's actually ace, and is doing fine now, but even with good friends and hobbies and no real intrinsic interest in that kind of relationship, he still went through a really rough time just because of the societal messaging that if you can't achieve this kind of relationship that means there's something wrong with you.

[@namegirl28]

Men are killing women for rejecting them daily all over the world and we keep pretending like they aren’t the most insecure beings on this planet. Stay safe ladies

[@chocolateprincess8543]

Exactly.

[@spectrestatus7110]

Those men are mentally ill men and they are crazy regardless of if they are on a relationship or not.

[@yvhirkush8485]

Men kill men mostly. Yes that happens but I can probably bet that statistic of men on men killings is way higher

[@ellenhelen700]

I know a girl who got stabbed for not giving a guys number in Saudi but the girl didn’t die

[@mnoell35]

See this is what you ladies get for dating and having offspring with the bad boys. “You get bad kids,who kill you!” Enjoy 🤗

[@91toinfinity]

You can be lonely in a relationship. Don't let these couples fool you.

[@LGnLA]

THIS!!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@stephaniemartin9253]

TRUE. I know lots of couples waiting for the other to die-

[@91toinfinity]

@@stephaniemartin9253 oh damn, this is dark 😂

[@Word-Smithy]

@@stephaniemartin9253 😂

[@terrystevens3998]

My husband is so incapable of emotional labor and romance that I divorced him because I was just so lonely married to him. He was raised to go to work and pay bills and that was all it took to be a good man and have a successful marriage. After we got divorced I didn’t move out, he begged me not to go and the kids were a factor so I stayed, we never worked on fixing the issues or trying to fall in love again.. that was 8 years ago. He was too good of a man for me to hate him but it’s just sad that he is perfectly happy in this situation and I don’t care to go seek anyone else or start over but I’m just never fully happy and it’s lonely.

[@aureliegedeon1551]

I think what’s honestly pathetic is you don’t see single women doing this sh*t. You don’t see single women inflicting violence on people who reject them. I honestly don’t know what it’ll take to change the entire male population but I’m tired. Like grow up and work on yourself

[@helena4440]

Women take it on themselves with eds and self hatred. Men go berserko

[@ershiafrancois3571]

@@helena4440 orrr they work on themselves and heal past traumas

[@Nihilist_Porcupine]

It's the entitlement. Like they think they've been denied something they're owed when women don't accept abuse and overwork.

[@somewhat-blue]

Internalizing vs externalizing behaviours in a nutshell. Women are more likely to turn pain inwards into self-hatred, anxiety, and depression because of how we’re socialized, and men are more likely to take vulnerability-provoking emotions (pain, loneliness, fear) and turn it into anger, something they can project outwards. It’s sad, because nobody’s like this on purpose - society gives us all these shitty messages, and we often absorb them before we even get the chance to think about them.

[@meko98743]

I do see communities of lonely women which can only be described as misandrist and there are examples of violence committed by lonely women who resent men, but generally, I think this comes down to toxic gender roles. I think men are more likely to instigate violence, more likely to process emotions through anger, and more likely to feel a sense of entitlement when it comes to dating.

[@dejamcforre1665]

we’re no longer marrying for the sake of survival anymore and men are scrambling because they think the only thing that they need to offer is financial security. I want a PARTNER not a man child who cant even take care of himself on his own! They need to stop threatening us with being single bc Id rather be alone than have a grown ass liability sittin up in my house 🤣

[@kathleenking47]

We haven't done this for 35 years..or more..being more independent..and self reliant Women married for closeness However, the hip hop rap porn culture RUINED THINGS

[@biomedlib]

Grown Ass Liability? Well said, Deja👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😊😊😊😊

[@kaylaEA_]

@@kathleenking47 this point isn’t given enough credit. Listen to the trap music and you’ll understand the minds of lots of these males. Jay Z was big pumping and Bey was independent but look at them now. It’s like men are stuck in their 20s not wanting to grow and evolve. They want to be players forever (well at least until they decide to settle down so they’ll have a woman to take care of them in their old age).

[@kathleenking47]

@@kaylaEA_ I know ALL ABOUT IT🤨 Constantly complained about it, with NO MALE VOCALS however, BW need to stop listening to it as well Stop twerking.. BW need to take dance lessons for partner dancing I wish Bey, told Jay-Z TO THE LEFT, YO THE LEFT... I miss Motown 😢

[@dianavivaldi4503]

The funny part is that they use that single threating like it was something to be scared of. If anything, being single is amazing.

[@jayfab4689]

As a nurse, I see countless of men dying single, bitter and alone. No one comes to visit them. We have to search high and low for children who they abandoned as children to bury them or make financial decisions...if they answer. Then you have men in their early 50's who refuse doctors and to take care of their bodies. Now they have strokes and diabetes. Then spouses or partners have have to take care of men who cheated, had children outside the relationships and abuse them in their youth vs enjoying retirement. Then I watch countless men use women in their prime then drop them for any excuse for younger women. No thank you. The risks outweigh the benefits of being with them.

[@demolitionizer7686]

Not all men are like that yknow

[@jayfab4689]

@@demolitionizer7686 not enough arent like this

[@demolitionizer7686]

@@jayfab4689 maybe women should be better. maybe men will be incetivized to do the same. I've been "self improving" for 10 years, what did that get me? 1 shitty girlfriend who couldn't bother to put in any effort into our "relationship". Man haters get hurt and blame all men. Women will break your heart into a million pieces too, but I'm not allowed to be mad about it. So I'm not.

[@juratory8876]

​​@@demolitionizer7686 Hey, if it don't apply then let it fly instead of getting offended. And dude, you're allowed to be upset over being mistreated in a relationship. No one is saying that you aren't. Get over yourself.

[@jayfab4689]

@@demolitionizer7686 First and foremost I apologize for your experience. We should all be working on ourselves for ourselves. Yet the man hater comment presents as an obstacle in continuing an unbiased exchange.

[@em.415]

At 32 being a single woman, unmarried and childless is so freeing. I work from home and can go surfing whenever I want. I can hang out with friends around LA. About to buy a 1br condo just for me. 😁 If I get to an age where I can no longer have kids and change my mind I will adopt. In 2022 women don’t need to get on any program. Our grandmothers had to put up with men for survival. Fortunately for us it’s optional. Also, I’m privileged enough to live in a state that protects abortion rights.

[@MG-zz1hp]

Bingo 🎯

[@lexladiva4533]

Period !!!! 🎉❤

[@veetahbee1368]

You better speak a whole word!

[@AmandaNBS]

YEEEEES!!!

[@theswillz3456]

Abortion is for irresponsible loose women

[@tmarie69]

No fr. Anybody who’s spent even 5 mins on any type of social media or read any comments in an article, or even listened in to male dominated discussions knows. Be safe out here y’all. I’m so serious. They sent death threats to the psychologist!

[@kathleenking47]

Immature men

[@heathers432]

Men are so depraved. Smh.

[@user-oc1od5mf9p]

what psychologist👀

[@kekef3620]

@@user-oc1od5mf9p the psychologist that wrote the article on lonely single men.

[@adaezez8378]

@@christopherbrown5409 nothing lmao. Read past that and try to comprehend the text in full christopher.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

I call BS on men blaming “loneliness” on their penchant for acting out violently. Women have been dealing with loneliness and mature aged singlehood for centuries. Its not loneliness that the problem. It’s their feelings of entitlement and their disdain for women that pushing them to act out violently. They don’t see us as ppl, as having the right to decline male attention. Straight up misogyny.

[@charmaineespeut4627]

Facts. I have been lonely and never wanted to act out violently because of it. It's definitely entitlement on their end.

[@girlyp0px]

@El Mero Mero you cannot threaten the modern day woman with being single. Men try to scare women with that BS bc in reality THEY need a woman y’all can’t take care of yourselves and you rely on the labor of everyone else around you to do the basic necessities. Also, if you continue to use that type of language towards women, do you really think that’s going to “lure” women into being in relationships with men or

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

@El Mero Mero… 💁🏾‍♀️why don’t you hold your breath and wait for that moment? Since your soooo confident.

[@The_torero]

They are also very jealous of the sexual attention women receive too. That's why if they're not unaliving women, they're trying to disfigure them ie by throwing corrosive liquids in women's face to try and ruin their looks. You rarely hear of women carrying out acts like this on men.

[@bulbasaur1232]

@El Mero Mero women aren’t like men. Men need women but women don’t need men. Women do very well staying single but the same cannot be said about men. You know this and it hurts you so bad 😂

[@Infrazale]

I am a 33 year old, virgin, single man. I have hobbies such as building robots, cooking, and going to church/Bible study. Men need to find happiness outside of women. Not all of us are meant to be chossen for romantic love.

[@nizarr21]

So rare to find people with your qualities!

[@christinag1998]

Disagree. You have to be willing to be romantic. It’s a choice.

[@munix9351]

why are you single??? makes no sense. Thousands of women available.

[@monimuppet6132]

@@christinag1998 Op is not, in any way that I can see, saying that he has chosen to be unromantic. He is saying he has accepted that romance is not a guarantee and is also elduding to the truth that making a whole half of the population the reason for your singular happiness is unhealthy and unfair. He found happiness within himself, something that can be shared IF a romance ever comes his way. I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with.

[@las8883]

Good for you. More men need to learn to be content with the season of singleness instead of making other ppls lives miserable

[@StephaniePerry]

Sooo...everything they said to us already done to them? Celie was right. Until they do right by us, everything these men think about gonna crumble.

[@sketchsmith21]

Pretty much. I love your channel btw!!!

[@nadas.5643]

The accuracy!

[@kemaratkins1275]

The guy who did this study also mention that men should be the person they can and young men arent taught how to play their role in a family.

[@ghostmaker8957]

We dont need yall like yall dont need us its cool we out 🛫🛫🛫🛫

[@maybesoormaybenot1586]

I love this movie. He tried to ruin her but in the end he was sad and lonely.

[@millsykooksy4863]

MOTHERS STOP CODDLING YOUR SONS!!!!!!! This is a gigantic piece of the puzzle

[@cyndigooch1162]

Millsy Kooksy They need to stop ABUSING them as well, which is way more common than people realise and is the cause of a lot of domestic violence! 😥

[@millsykooksy4863]

@@cyndigooch1162 totally agree!!

[@bluesteel1]

DADS STOP SPOILING YOUR DAUGHTERS!!!!!!! This is a gigantic piece of the puzzle Even though I wrote that, to be fair if I had a daughter I'd probably spoil her. Ah the irony.

[@ErectkyleDysfunction]

Fathers stop coddling your daughters and calling them princesses.

[@millsykooksy4863]

@@bluesteel1 YOU ARE CORRECT! Spoiling your kids doesn't help them....female or male.

[@erikavaleries]

This explains incels + other horrible communities that blame women for male loneliness instead of systemic societal issues.

[@Social_Pugatory]

This! They always point the fingers in the wrong direction (at women) start making podcasts about it but never address the elephant in the room; the systemic issues effecting how we navigate dating, relationships and family building under the constraints of late stage capitalism. Desperately trying to maintain these archaic ideals of “traditional” in heterosexual relationships and gender roles and dynamics in a rapidly changing world is doing a disservice to us all. The tides are changing and many of us are still trying to swim against the current instead of adapting because we’re conditioned to believe this is how things are supposed to go-the natural order of things.

[@meko98743]

And those communities make it even harder for those men to become less lonely. They prey on men who are insecure or frustrated, which are negative but somewhat understandable emotions in response to repeated failures in dating or socializing, but then radicalize them into a hateful ideology. It's a toxic spiral and the men who managed to escape it will tell you as much.

[@erikavaleries]

Yes! It's crazy to see young or divorced men buy into this angry mindset. Women are just as lonely but I think we are used to struggling to meet someone safe.

[@kathleenking47]

Incels, aren't properly trained by their parents I even know a few over 30, who NEVER got their drivers licenses They never learned to drive, since their girlfriends drive them...

[@dennisrobinson8008]

@@erikavaleries The angry mindset is a trap for man or woman.

[@vivimanchester2541]

Most of these men on these dating sites are married men. Ijs

[@ReneeHarris96]

And most will pretend they single 💯

[@rubyruby7573]

Yeah I Know We Need More Yandere Girls

[@ashleyrogers1930]

Men really think their presence is enough. Like bruh I can get any man to just lay around.

[@victorsoto4821]

I always thought that applied more to women, especially with how feminism teaches women men ain't shit. Let's face it women have the options and that gets to their heads Hence the grass always appears greener on the other side, thus they end up old and alone, since most are never satisfied and always think they can do better. Hence why the majority of the divorces are initiated by women.

[@ashleyrogers1930]

@@victorsoto4821 Women have options but it doesn't make all of them good options. There are a lot of men that you can get with to lay around the house, but it is slim picking on men who will actually be a partner.

[@victorsoto4821]

@@ashleyrogers1930 Right, I get what you're coming from but let's not deny the fact a lot of women overlook good guys that can potentially make great partners over very insignificant things. Then a good portion women eventually come to that revelation later in their lives how they're are no good men left, but in reality they turned down probably quite a few good men in their lifetime.

[@ashleyrogers1930]

@@victorsoto4821 I definitely don't deny that. But I believe there is such a thing as a good guy. A great partner is contingent on what you are looking for and where you are trying to go in life, someone that has a similar set of core values as you do. I've seen men call themselves good guys for a myriad of reasons. Because girls don't want to date them they must be a good guy, they take care of their kids so they a good guy, they have a job or don't do XYZ like most men because they are a good guy. People are just people. We are flawed and we all have our f'd up qualities. A great partner is someone who you can take the good with the f'd up qualities.

[@ashleyrogers1930]

@48ft is 50% success a therapist is able to better help you process and identify your emotions if they are good. Emotional support is being a shoulder to cry on, you may be able to offer surface advice but when people have deeper problems you need more than a shoulder. A severely mentally ill person may also need meds. Additionally, taken into account the fact that we are humans it can be difficult handling someone’s deep rooted emotions for hours on a daily basis.

[@Zikomo7]

A lot of men are unpleasant to be around. Boring, unintelligent, not funny, etc. The worst feeling is being lonely in a relationship. Might as well have the house to yourself then

[@stephaniemartin9253]

FACTS

[@Lasagnadelreyyy]

This. I had to take a break from dating because I felt like I always carried conversation. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Zikomo7]

@@Lasagnadelreyyy oof. Been there. And the man will be genuinely shocked that you’re not interested anymore. Being likable is just unheard of to them haha

[@Word-Smithy]

Agreed. They add nothing to my life but irritation and bring out the worst in me.

[@modalsoul6511]

I’m gonna play devils advocate here , a lot of women are boooooring, unintelligent, and not funny , that’s an individual thing , that goes for men and women . Women aren’t exempt from that just like men aren’t.

[@bodhisattva2348]

Men: we're lonely. We want women Also men: 25 is too old for me. you hit the wall.

[@adaezez8378]

😂😂😂😂

[@The_torero]

The chickens are well and truly coming home to roost for men. I have very little sympathy.

[@nemavenus9156]

Bodhisattva Don't forget about the ridiculous weight requirements

[@Cyrus992]

If that was the standard for centuries, why can it be for now as well?

[@nemavenus9156]

@@Cyrus992 It doesn't need to stay the same it needs to progress with time

[@helena4440]

Being single (with zero "fwb"/one night stands) has been the best time of my life 🥰 only gonna date a guy if he meets my standards. The worst thing that can happen is I END UP SINGLE OMG NOOOO lmao laughing my way to the bank to plan my next vacatioooon

[@monimuppet6132]

Same. Like word for word 🤣🤣

[@Lovable09]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Patricia-uz2xx]

Same here!!!!!

[@itsajahnixoxo]

Yess & girl you’re gorgeous

[@theswillz3456]

Whatever to make yourself feel better 😂

[@DMMA0726]

I also did start seeing research papers and articles dropping about the fact that here and now most women in the Western world have a choice, and expect more of men. And instead of men coping with this by...working in their emotional maturity, going to therapy, revisiting their beliefs etc., we're seeing the growth of incels. And even outside of whiny people on social media this also plays out with politicians trying to force a return to time where women had to rely on men, etc.

[@DoraWinifred]

I read this in a book called All the Single Ladies: Unmarried Women and the Rise of an Independent Nation by Rebecca Traister. Women don’t need men we were forced to as we had no rights to do anything. Now women can do their own thing there will come a long period of decline in relationship and marriage rates and men will be forced to step up. In this day and age why tf would I chose to marry or entertain a man who brings me nothing but hardship?? Single life is far easier than relationships women have always got the short straw.

[@DMMA0726]

@@DoraWinifred thanks for the rec Imma check it out! I'm bisexual and always preferred men, and also realized how quickly that preference disappeared when I finally got to a place of financial stability and higher self esteem. Very curious to know if that behavior pattern has also risen.

[@amab1853]

@@DoraWinifred I'll check out the book 📖

[@Princess-rb9yd]

Tbh it’s not even that women are expecting more, they’re literally just want the bare minimum. Many women are dying to be in relationships and are incredibly lonely however they are not willing to put up the the abuse their mothers and grandmothers faced. Hell some of them are or have faced abuse for the sake of a man, but left bc it got too much. I know many women despite how “independent” they are secretly want to be a (house) wife and are willing to put up with the more domestic and emotional labor just to be in relationships, but men these days want to it all and make it impossible to date them

[@LoneWulf278]

Yes. Politicians will always pander to their base. If their growing base is now incels, then they’ll start pandering to them to win elections. This will have a lot of damaging consequences for women.

[@FinntasticMrFox]

Male isolation is harming so, so many people, and it’s terrifying. I feel like so much communication around this topic is lost because responsibility for this problem is placed on women (generally by those isolated men) simply because heterosexual women are setting healthy standards and boundaries. The solution needs to come from us, from men, supporting each other, but not enabling each other’s anger the way the manosphere does. We need to build an archetype of manhood that teaches those communication and connection skills so many boys and men never develop. Thank you for talking about this.

[@brie1026]

Thank you so much for knowing and saying that the solution has to come from other men! A lot of us women do in fact care that men as a group are hurting, but we have to stay away to preserve our safety, first and foremost. I think it's unfair to both blame women instead of patriarchy, as well as to expect women to do all the emotional labor to help fix men's issues. Women already take on the brunt of emotional labor when dealing with individual men. So I *DO* care, but from a distance, and I've been waiting for the (healed) boys helping (lost) boys. Thank you for doing your part

[@melb.6024]

Couldn’t have said it better myself, a major reason this won’t happen tho is ✨homophobia✨

[@boblotoldo3051]

Let's start by stopping women guilt tripping us into submission

[@brie1026]

@@boblotoldo3051 U mean guilt tripping yall into *equality* 😜

[@helena4440]

@@boblotoldo3051 that's funny because most of these incel types crying about women online usually seem VERY much submissive types

[@kaylandry3142]

My father treated my mother like she was his child slave. I have always known it is better to be alone than scrape the bottom of the barrel.

[@lanzinator4734]

Great point about abortion access. If my absurdly violent grandfather didn't have his wife to use as a "brood mare" (her words) and his 8 kids to terrorize at home he probably would have resorted to domestic terrorism too.

[@maybesoormaybenot1586]

I just found out that my maternal grandfather, who died before I was born, had 4 kids with another women who lived just down the road. My Grandmother had 10 kids, pretty much popped one out every 2 years for 20 years straight. Intermingled with the last of their 5 kids he was going down the road and making more babies with another women. What a piece of shit!

[@lanzinator4734]

@@maybesoormaybenot1586 Jesus, that's so crazy!!! And how can you leave a man when you have that many mouths to feed? They probably had no choice but to stay. Side note: my paternal grandfather was married 8 times....that we know of lol.

[@Brooklynnwolfe2002]

As someone who gets rejected I will say this: NOBODY OWES YOU THEIR ATTENTION. You are not entitled to anyones body or attention. That goes to men and woman,but I am speaking primarily to rejected men. I am tired of seeing woman die because of rejection.

[@annieareyouok7671]

I have been rejected too. Women do get rejected, and not by necessarily good looking men either. There was a guy I liked because he was kind and had a calming presence. I’m the opposite, I’m anxious and can be reactionary not in an over the way but I’m definitely not the calming presence. He turned me down. I was sad at first but then thought, “We’re just not a good match.” Not worth killing him over 😅.

[@sungod1384]

@@annieareyouok7671 Im a dude. i get rejected a lot. But how i think about it is that. Well for one women will eliminate you for bullshit reasons and its not reflective on me. Try again next time.

[@Jedilord882]

@@sungod1384 or just don’t try at all and realize if you were truly physically attractive they would approach you 😂😂😂

[@helena4440]

@@sungod1384 and even if the other person has legitimate reasons that sometimes don't even concern us, it's totally fine and natural to be denied a relationship or sex once or twice it should not be made into a big deal

[@helena4440]

@@Jedilord882 I mean do men usually approach women they deem ugly or like super obese women? Being atttacted to the other person is key in a romantic relationship I think

[@AmyAnnetteHenion]

I’m single and so at peace. Long ago I adopted the motto, “Become the man you’d want to marry.” It’s helped me keep up a vibrant social life, pursue hobbies, get my finances in order, save for retirement, and pursue nutrition and fitness. If the right man comes into my life, it will be a happy bonus instead of a choice made out of desperation.

[@aram8458]

The problem here us men don't date men. Also, these days men don't go approach women like you said. Men were always alone in their mind. Women are lonely and depressed. Look at the amount of antidepressants intake in men and women.

[@simonebrooks202]

​@@aram8458 focus on the suicide rates...I swear instead of accepting reality men choose to cope instead

[@aram8458]

@@simonebrooks202 Reality is Men are less likely to be depressed than women clinically. Women on the other hand have episodes of hormonal changes throughout the year that continously keep them depressed. Period, pregnancy, post partum, menopause everything gives them depression. Feminist propaganda includes that men are weak and are depressed like women is a fake.

[@aram8458]

@@simonebrooks202 Focus on suicide: Men suicide major factor is financial issues, unemployment. Relationship with women is not a major factor. Most men move on quickly. Another reason is decisiveness in men to commit. Most women mood swings because of their physiology.

[@aram8458]

@@simonebrooks202 Most men acts as a therapist for women on a daily basis because of women's physiology. Future versions of sexbot can easily replace women. This argument of strong independent woman is fake. Portraying men need women for normal life is fake. Men already bailout of relationships and will do fine.

[@YeahIGotNuthin]

It’s the entitlement… men really feel like they have the right to take human life just because they hate their own life. It’s really ridiculous!

[@theadvancedforce1017]

Get healing. Don't generalize.

[@ievolcisum]

@@theadvancedforce1017 it's not generalization when statistical data supports the idea that men commit violent crimes at a higher rate then women. Uno reverse, get healing. Eyeglasses and a computer while you're at it. It's very searchable and understood to be universally common sense. There is no Taliban equivalence for women.

[@YeahIGotNuthin]

@@theadvancedforce1017 no, it’s a very real problem that is effecting black women every 4 hours.

[@theadvancedforce1017]

@@YeahIGotNuthin social media is really turning us against each other. I don't support the guys that you described. As well as other toxic groups such as divestors that spread racism against all blk men. Which isn't right either. Internet can be draining for us a whole.

[@theadvancedforce1017]

@@YeahIGotNuthin Do you think we can last a full week without the internet?

[@deathdragoncat]

Yeah I've just come to believe it's not worth dealing with men in the search for a relationship. Women having any kind of standards makes them mad because they only want to have standards for you but not the other way around.

[@heathers432]

Exactly!

[@Janna_Ash]

Years ago I had an incel boil this down to the need to procreate and keep the human race alive. He basically said that men’s standards are necessary for them to be attracted to a woman, in other words, get their 🍆 hard enough for sex (and get us pregnant). 🙄 But it doesn’t matter if we’re attracted to them or not. Then he had to add in that if women stop giving it up then men will just have to take it…but obviously that’s always been an issue smh. If I end up not being with my husband in the future, I’ve already decided I’m staying single. The men are not okay.

[@CornellG]

So are you looking for women instead?

[@deathdragoncat]

@@CornellG Thats..why in the world would you ask that?

[@CornellG]

@@deathdragoncat You said men aren’t worth dealing with. Cool. So are you dealing with women instead or simply deciding to remain single forever?

[@MichiruEll]

I feel like men would benefit from more hobbies, especially ones that involve other people. Communities and Friendships can be incredibly helpful to decrease feelings of loneliness.

[@helena4440]

YESSS

[@toitman2]

Men don't care of spending time with other men. They just want to have sex. After having sex if they truly want to find a community they would. I don't have a problem with making friends or finding a community. I still feel extremely lonely surrounded by all my friends

[@rachelmaddowswife8713]

Yes, thank you! Why is it women are always blamed for the fact that some creepy man out there feels lonely? Why can't other men step up to the plate and offer some community and emotional support?

[@toitman2]

@@rachelmaddowswife8713 I guess the blame comes from the fact that we are shaped by the people we interact with, (our environment). Men are competitive with other men, we do this because a women likes a strong man. The more a man looses, the creeper he gets. Women have the power to lift up a man and stop him from being creepy. it's unlikely for men to help each other because of the competition. If there wasn't competition then guys would help each other but the only reason we are so competitive is because of women. The only time us men help each other is when our sex drive is satisfied, but not all of us are so fortunate.

[@misanthropicblackchick6092]

@@toitman2 Why the hell is it our job to stop you from being creepy tf???

[@doejohn7548]

Lonely men are not lonely by choice Lonely Woman are lonely by choice

[@juanjosoler336]

They just don't understand it

[@missandry2669]

So women choose to be alone then men got it

[@chuckcollins2349]

Facts

[@yesrelationthesequel]

That makes no sense even if you’re conceiving of “lonely” in the most rudimentary way. Explain this hypothesis or stop the whining.

[@Ri57490]

Single women usually aren't lonely. Women usually put the effort to build bonds with family and friends, and reach out more to keep in contact with others. Men don't put the same amount of effort with their non-romantic relationships, so single men are usually lonely.

[@MrNotkaren]

It's unbelievable to me that 'emotional connection', 'good communication', and 'romance' are qualities women have to look out for in a partner. It's a close tie for 'I want a partner that loves me enough not to beat me or cheat on me'... The bar is set so low that basic human decency IS the prize 😑

[@alfonzobarber9175]

If that was really what women wanted there wouldn’t be a need for the article. You want men that you don’t wanna tell us you want but we know. We’re not stupid. Men have feelings too. Instead of saying fix yourself as an excuse

[@juratory8876]

@@alfonzobarber9175 Then how about actually talking to women and asking us about what we want?

[@alfonzobarber9175]

@@juratory8876 don’t do this. Y’all literally have expectations out of the roof. If you women are so genuine and it’s our fault…why are you ignoring isolating and disrespecting men you think are unattractive. He plays video games=loser Lives with his parents=loser No car=loser No house=loser Too fat…too skinny…too ugly… No friends=loser Jalopy/beater=broke boy Minimum wage=broke boy Needs to be emotionally available Needs to protect me Needs to take me out on a date Can’t be boring Muscles Money status He’s working on himself = still not enough

[@fixerrr98]

The irony is that most young women will absolutely choose a "toxic, narcissistic man" over a man who is emotionally available, a good communicator, and has similar values.

[@athenapoe3377]

Most women set the bar too high; he needs to be over 6', have 6 figures, and more than 6". Statsitically speaking, there are not many many who fit those standards. All of my female friends have passed up good men for their crazy ideal. One woman won't date anyone who makes under $200k a year (that's the top 5% of th U.S. pop.). Another one had a laundry list of 50 qualities that a man must have to date her; most were superficial such as he must play guitar, he must be artistic, etc. My third "friend" had a guy who really liked her, but she got upset because he didn't text her for three days (he told her he was camping with his bros that weekend). I stopped talking to them because they are superficial and were constantly making catty remarks because I have a happy marriage.

[@bidah007]

Women should invest in creating gated and luxurious neighborhoods For WOMEN ONLY.

[@slowednreverbbg5175]

pleasee make this happen in my life time 🙏🏼

[@Word-Smithy]

That's considered discrimination and is illegal under federal law unless they could frame it as housing for some kind of special need -- and be prepared to defend it in court.

[@oaklandsoldier8520]

So, women could build and create their own homes. No need for any male construction or landscaping. Only female police and firefighters. No men are necessary right? You fight and defend for yourself only.

[@moontears3887]

Men would try mightily to tear it down, they can’t live without the attention of women.

[@adventuresociety588]

I’ve been thinking of doing this for years. I plan on doing it too and I can’t wait to make this dream a reality.

[@nellyarraiz9255]

1. Why are ALWAYS women blamed for men's stupid choices? 2. Why are these data being picked ONLY from dating apps? Did comen suddenly dissapear from ANY other place? 3. How come women ending lonely only provokes cat ownership, where as male loneliness is allegedly dangerous for society?

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

Key word: entitlement. I know you know the answers but I think it's extremely important to actually ask and answer these questions, because this is exactly what has been missing so far. An open discussion about how the experience of straight men (loneliness, rejection etc.) is not unique at all, it's their set of reactions (agression and violence) that is, and that it is because the patriarchy has taught them that they are entitled to women's company and even their bodies. As someone else in this comment section wrote: society has evolved and if they want to be able function in it, men need to as well.

[@ChemSwindler]

1 They’re not. 2 It’s become more and more prevalent. 3 because women can’t do anything else.

[@fakeafricanprince]

1. No one with half a brain says this. 2. Majority of modern relationship start online. Dating app are a good source for this data. 3. Frustrated men normally turn to violence.

[@coreyaruecker]

1. Why are men ALWAYS blamed for women’s issues? 2. Why are men ALWAYS blamed for their own issues? 3. Why are men ALWAYS blamed for everything wrong in society?

[@missandry2669]

@@coreyaruecker Your gender created society so cope

[@AMRCLS]

Their (lonely men) misery loves company (anger, pain, violence). Go outside, take a walk, get a pet, talk to a licensed therapist and work on yourself instead of making our lives miserable.

[@meko98743]

Also, men, be there for your fellow men instead of expecting women to do all the emotional heavy lifting. If you see your friends struggling with their mental health, loneliness, or going down a dark path, reach out to them.

[@bonemeringue9464]

@@meko98743 men's social networks are sadly nowhere near as supportive as women's, what you describe is far too rare

[@meko98743]

@@bonemeringue9464 Contrary to my first comment, I do think there are a lot of good things about male friendships, and things that female friendships can learn from them, but I also think it's undeniable that, on the whole, they're less supportive and less capable of really helping this kind of issue.

[@joeycognition8824]

I don’t get this….men in my opinion have way more hobbies than women. You think our attention is always on chasing women? Don’t flatter yourself, women to this day still try to emasculate men for playing video games. The shaming tactics don’t end lol

[@poseidon5489]

It was opposite for me

[@sugarpearl9781]

I think gender roles for women in relationships have evolved past just cooking, cleaning, child rearing, etc. Now we have jobs, we make our own money, and we can protect and support ourselves. But the gender roles for men haven’t evolved alongside us and they still think we should fall all over ourselves because they have a good job, are in shape, and aren’t abusive (for some of them). And it’s not enough anymore. Women have been saying for years we want emotional support, maturity and intelligence and so many men can’t or flat out refuse to deliver and then try to gaslight us on not knowing what we want. It’s exhausting. And now men are lonely and depressed and bitter and are nursing a lot of resentment towards women because marriages and relationships have always benefited them more than us and on some level they know this.

[@boblotoldo3051]

Divorce benefits you more*

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

Spot on! I'd just add that any man who feels women should fall over themselves for them for any reason is actually very likely abusive.

[@sugarpearl9781]

@@boblotoldo3051 that’s not true for most women. most men aren’t making the kind of money that would be the primary motivation for a divorce.

[@theironson1043]

relationships have always been a burden to avg men, there has never really been a huge benefit, unless u can name 1 other than seggs and companionship but the women routinely cut that off arbitrarily, in my experience I had the emotional maturity, support, and intelligence ur talking about but my partner (like most women), was just hypergamous, the more effort I put in the further it pushed her away, the guy who came after me put no effort in and got everything I wanted out of her, modern women don't reward intelligence, emotional maturity and support, that's why they use guys who provide emotional support w/ and will get smashed by emotionally unavailable men. Women reward emotional unavailability, and men who have options its really that simple.. Men are lonely because the life of a man is hard and involves a lot of rejection and solitude, many times you get ghosted by women who pretend to be interested and ur just suppose t take it, sometimes u get something but then you get rejected shortly after, also males have low social status compared to the women now due to economic changes, which for women is sub optimal for mating

[@yeelanma9165]

@@sugarpearl9781 most women make 28000 $ per year its just peanut and misandrsist in comment section as if they r something great and mostly men employ them on basis of quotas or reservation

[@Juiceharlot]

Having personal stability and financial safety, keeps women from marriage and unhealthy partnerships. Living alone and being comfortable in my own space. Has left me fulfilled in ways partnering men has never. I have gone on several dates lately where men have expressed that they feel like dating has been harder for them or that there's this loneliness that isn't being fulfilled for them and I can just actively express to these men on these dates that I don't feel that same way that that's not what I'm experiencing I think I'm dating people and when they don't match with me I don't think that it's the end of the world and I don't feel lonely and I'm not on dates to cure myself of loneliness because I have not felt lonely. I have amazing friends, a wonderful relationship with my family, good hobbies, and an amazing dog. Men do not have good politics on basic things STILL and don't make good company. They aren't growing and changing. And having my own things allows me to step away from all the situations women before me had to sit on their hands about.

[@merarifreethought]

Shout it from the rooftops 📣

[@rascal_lipton_tea]

They don't invest in ANY of their relationships with family or friends, no wonder they're so sensitive and overbearing when it comes to seeking romantic partnerships.

[@monimuppet6132]

"They don't make good company." Exactly. A married man (it's always the married ones) asked me "If you're not interested in marriage then what about company?" I told him I already have plenty of company. "Well, those are just friends," he says. Yes, and they are amazing company. Some of them really think being male and physically present makes them good company. They're all in this comment section whining about our standards being unrealistically high but that's just because the standard was set by patriarchy and has been in hell all this time. Wanting someone I share actual interests with that genuinely likes being around me, wants to speak to me, do fun things with me, and just grow and discover with me is the basic outline for friendship - but that's just too high a standard apparently. Like you, my ability to financially care for myself has given me so much ability to choose my life's circumstances and sitting under a man JUST for the sake of doing so will never be something I choose. Because, why? All they can offer is "well you'll die alone." OK, copy that 👌🏾.

[@gailainsley6939]

I agree. I remember when me and a lot of the young women in my circle started getting our own place and making our own money etc. this older woman said ‘oh now it’s going to take even longer for you ladies to want to settle down or find anyone because you won’t need them now’. She meant that now that we all had our stuff together, there is no urgency. Leading to being more picky and selective behaviour when it comes to dating. A lot of young women couple up with guys and get into relationships quickly so they can share rent (the women usually do not realise that this is the case) but a lot of guys admit that’s why they do it. For regular access to intimacy and to have half of the rent split. Those women I believe partner up hoping to get married eventually. Them getting out of their parents house is just a bonus. Also a Brazilian friend of mine told me that in her town, they try to get women married off (or to just have babies) quicker otherwise they become too comfortable and complacent. I was confused at first but now I understand why.

[@gailainsley6939]

@@monimuppet6132 It’s because by company, they are speaking of pleasure. They cannot get that from friends or animals or hobbies. They get it from whatever sexXx that they may be attracted to. So they don’t understand how women can feel at ease with just having friends or pets around as company. They don’t understand that we just need connection and something to nurture (hence the love of babies, pets and things like plants etc). They don’t get it.

[@quirkyblackenby]

I feel like men also aren’t taught to have and nurture close friendships. It’s very common for (straight cis) men not to have close friends at all and that’s gonna make you so much lonelier. If you’re only gonna get social interaction and connection with a potential girlfriend but you can’t get a girlfriend then you’re gonna be lonely as hell.

[@Grrranola]

So many of these dudes treat their girlfriend as their entire social system. She's their mom, lover, maid, best friend & therapist rolled into 1!

[@tam6011]

Well to tbh women were taught either you just did it. You sit on the phone and talk.

[@KiraDaBeastNY]

I mean. Yeah. I'm a cis het dude, but I'm not lonely cause of the friendships I've had, while not all of em are the most open, are better than some I've heard of where if you weep about your troubles to them you get all types of disinterest. Even then, growing up if you and another guy are close you get jeered at for bein gay. A lot of these toxic behaviors being displayed by men is trained into them via socialization. So of course many of em are going to not believe the problem is them and/or the behaviors they display, they've been trained/raised not to think much about it or even go against it lest social repercussions happen.

[@monimuppet6132]

@@tam6011 We may not be directly taught but we also aren't discouraged from engaging in natural social behavior. Girls get to keep "playing" with each other much the way all children do when we're pre-school and kindergarten age. But then that gendered garbage starts getting force fed to us and all the sudden that "playing" is no longer masculine and boys' natural social development gets hindered.

[@tam6011]

@@monimuppet6132 That’s not true boys play as kids. They ride bikes together, do flips, throw rocks, play sports together, even spend the night.

[@surirel4949]

The older I get the less attracted to men I am. I just don’t have the time or energy to deal with a majority who have no emotional intelligence and poor communication skills. I find more comfort with women.

[@danielrickel8807]

Translation: the men you find attractive no longer ask you out.

[@surirel4949]

@@danielrickel8807 ha! Okay!🙄

[@xxxmxxwm1564]

Same. I lose interest in them. I mean, I have experienced so many bad things from them that I don’t consider them potential romantic partners. Every time I’m around a man, I fully pay attention whether he wants to hurt me or not.

[@theblackmonk3153]

Same with women most are damage and man hating to much of a headache

[@isabella6075]

@@theblackmonk3153 You’re name says it all

[@nemavenus9156]

The manosphere is the reason why a lot of these men are lonely and single

[@annieareyouok7671]

The fact they can’t see that is wild. Your seeking comfort in misogynistic community and taking on these extremist views instead of finding a real and tangible women to love you. Your want to harp on some imaginary “modern women” who embodies all the things you hate instead of finding a women (who isn’t perfect and everyone has to live with that even women )and working with her toward a common goal.

[@nemavenus9156]

@@annieareyouok7671 You do know I am not a man I am woman and I am speaking against the manosphere read my comment before making a comment. My point just went over your head

[@annieareyouok7671]

@@nemavenus9156 I was agreeing with you lol

[@nemavenus9156]

@@annieareyouok7671 Ok no problem

[@kenos911]

Im not a part of it, actively bash it in fact, and I’m still lonely…

[@Parahelion]

For the men watching this. This is what we call an *echo chamber*

[@amuroray9115]

No shit. Every place is an echo chamber. Same thing with Redpill MGTOW being an echo chamber for impressionable men.

[@Parahelion]

@@amuroray9115 Either way, I'm right.

[@amuroray9115]

@@Parahelion it’s like saying “the sky is blue.” You’d be right but it’s a waste of time to point it out and it adds nothing

[@IamBrixTM]

It really is. I’m a leftist and identify with some of the perspectives but this community is just bitter raging at men and pulling the “personal responsibility/pull yourselves up by your bootstraps” for men who are struggling and exist as they do because of the culture and systems around us. They just unironically are the caricature of feminists from the right. Really bad analysis.

[@Nyammings]

Yes. When I first heard about this study the first thought I had is that men solve their problems with violence. So this is absolutely concerning for me. The rise of childfree women, rolling back rove vs wade etc... I also believe that it is all interconnected.

[@kathleenking47]

What some young women forget: Sometimes it's the MAN who pushes abortion on the woman, for her to "keep " him. Women used to stay with abusive husbands, and later divorced HOWEVER, these days, some silly womrn get beaten by BOYFRIENDS and she still takes him back over and over (until he kills her) What's happening now, is the crop of millennials using too much 'feminine energy" which is a turnoff Thry dont use any type of chivalry They don't know... HOW Add PORN in phones to that, along with music...and it's a disaster 🥺😢

[@osakue2050]

Fr

[@annieareyouok7671]

It is, the birth rate is dropping and there is something called the birth dirth that brings in more racial theory but basically women are foregoing having children until later on in life or not at all. The divorce rate is 54% and most women file because they are unhappy in marriage, and married women die sooner than unmarried women. So you see why these statistics make women lean more toward being single as the happier venture. The government needs more workers, and they want to uphold “family values ” but at the crux of all this is a lot of unhappy women who have to sacrifice in order for the “American Dream” to be made a reality. Also men are not even meeting the bar for healthy relationship standards. I value marriage, I hope to be married some day but if I never find the right man I’ll be more than happy to just have a long term partner and no children.

[@merarifreethought]

It is definitely interconnected.

[@womanistwoo]

Mhmm. They need workers for the next generation 🫠

[@StacyFrancis94]

I am a woman and I don't know why but I feel happy single not lonely. It truly feels great.

[@MarciaMatthews]

Society has evolved, and men must evolve too, and find their place in an equal society.

[@ke6944]

It's not an equal society. It's an increasing unequal society.

[@MarciaMatthews]

@@ke6944 With technology, women can do most jobs men do, but men cannot control reproduction. Try as they might, a woman will find a way to choose the best man for her, and lonely men go wanting.

[@monimuppet6132]

@@ke6944 It's unequal because people make it so. When enough people grow past believing the circumstances of their birth grant them the right to rule over others (i.e. Believing being born with a certain set of reproductive organs entitles you to subservience from those born with the other set) then the world can move to being more equal. You have to put in the work, everyone. You can't just wait around for civilization to magically BECOME more equal.

[@namegirl28]

@@ke6944 do you care about all the inequalities in society?

[@ke6944]

@@namegirl28 I would love to live in a more equitable society, so yes I do care about social and economical inequalities and how it affects both men and women.

[@DonnieMoreland]

Interestingly, what's often left out of this conversation is the culture of grooming which informs so much of what has become incel and incel performance. After Alana ( a name that doesn't get mentioned enough in discussing who's accountable for how arrived here ) coined the phrase in the late 90's, it was co-opted in the early 2010s and a lot of sick cats began employing the same grooming/radicalization tactics as domestic terrorist organizations to elicit the allegiance of children, and vulnerable dudes looking for social supports. No one calls out the similarities and relationships between the likes of Andrew Tate, groups like Stormfront, and groups like ISIS. They all demand the same things and yield the same results. But because hating women is profitable and generates a lot of social currency, we've created an industry around letting who would, in any other context, be considered terrorist propagandists become trivialized as mere sensationalists and "shock jocks".

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

Gangs, cults, and radical organizations all use the same tactics to recruit people. Prey on vulnerabilities and make people feel accepted and validated in the early stages.

[@DonnieMoreland]

@@pisceanbeauty2503 To a point, yes. But with the advent of the information age, there has been a bevy of more insidious tactics used by white supremacist orgs., and religious extremists to draw the interests of those groups mentioned. I should've specified the point so thank you for that comment. While gangs might employ celebrity connections to draw interest, their recruitment is much more interpersonal. I bring up those two specific factions (white supremacists and religious extremists) in relationship to incel radicalization/grooming because they all share the same pattern of digital grooming/radicalization tactics (bombastic video production, relating "due" prosperity and identity, along with centralizing terror, or even horrorism as a means of humiliating their "enemies", etc.). Yes, grooming is grooming but where, how and to what degree these boys/men are being groomed has changed a lot in the past two decades.

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

@@DonnieMoreland Yep, the internet age + social media has made this kind of manipulation easier and more insidious.

[@em.415]

That’s why they try to get girls pregnant as soon as possible. Control.

[@coreyaruecker]

This is wild. Where the hell do you live? If I walked around my city openly hating women, it would not only not be profitable, it would probably result in homelessness. And I live in a very conservative province in Canada (relative to Canada, still left of the DNC in America)

[@norikadolmy7274]

Handmaids tale is becoming closer to a reality every day

[@misskris117]

That part 🎯🎯🎯

[@Proud5050man]

As it should

[@Jamhael1]

Horrifying part: the creation of Gilead came thanks to an alliance of religious fundamentalists and RADICAL FEMINISTS who wanted to end pornography. Look at the book...

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

Ok so me being single for years makes me a dangerous person. Are you serious? I’ve been single for years but that doesn’t make me dangerous. I think you shouldn’t judge a book by it’s cover.

[@halocraze9839]

Not single but lonely men are dangerous

[@zziz6137]

Just because a man is single doesn't mean he's lonely. I am a single man and I am far from lonely. I was lonely more so whenever I was in a relationship.

[@sabrinatheart]

I just don’t feel sorry for these incels. I really don’t. Men need to learn respect, communication skills, and taking care of their own mental health without believing they’re “soft” for doing so. This is such a perfect video because I have now seen and dated plenty of men who have SUCH deep rooted toxic masculinity that they try and refuse to care about anything. No woman wants to date someone like that. They need to learn.

[@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw]

The issue is you for choosing to date those men tho. I’m sure many good men wanted you but you didn’t acknowledge their existence

[@juratory8876]

@@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw Aaaaand we found the sad boy lol

[@theblackmonk3153]

Same for women

[@EdgarHernandez-uu4iw]

@@juratory8876 Aaaaannnnddd we found the woman who wants to hold every man accountable for the men she chooses to date and think she is a victim no matter what and deserves my sympathy

[@MyMarnus]

Incels are incels because of their height and looks. Some of them have perfect personalities that meets all the tickboxes women mention when they ask them in interviews. But because they are short or ugly or old, they are not viable options for you. And that is okay, but be honest why you are rejecting them. It is because of their looks and their height or age.

[@aryanne5012]

I wish the doctor who conducted this study, would have delved even deeper into this and examined what the non romantic relationships looked like, and if not having fulfilling relationships outside of romantic intent, also contributes to this loneliness. It's my perception that alot of single women these, are not so put out about being single is because their not lonely. They've taken to curate other relationships that are healthy and fulfilling.

[@merarifreethought]

That’s a very good point

[@lolabint3411]

This is definitely true. It's sad that most men don't always enjoy close friendships with other men that most women often enjoy, where they can be vulnerable with each other etc.

[@aryanne5012]

@@lolabint3411 girl, be hanging around ppl for 50-leven years, and don't none of their intimate thoughts. Haven't even scratched the surface of what makes their "friend" tick. I love meeting men who can confidently admit, that they have a best friend. Not just a homebody. I could be wrong, but it just feels like they know how to develop close bonds, their emotionally available.

[@pythonjava6228]

Amen. Women are more likely to have intimate friendships with other women. Its disappointing when people speak of relationships and loneliness exclusively in the context if romance as if that's the only connection that exists. Many lonely men probably dont have good relationships with their families or deep friendships.

[@scj3188]

My mom ,who was a single mother, would always say "men are more trouble than they're worth". As a child I kind of dismissed that because I thought she was just being a bitter Betty. Lol how right she was. Thanks for the wisdom mama! 🙏🏾

[@theironworker781]

People say the same thing to men about women.

[@scj3188]

@@theironworker781 Those people tend to be misogynists.🙄

[@jeacurry1167]

Mama was very insightful just like my mother and grandmother, who used to say, “Don’t get married, or you will see a hard way to go.”

[@angels.digitaldiary]

my gran calls men animals, she says( in our mother tongue it sounds less harsh) you can always domesticate a lion but at the end of the day, it is a beast, same with men. I understand the idea but damn😭

[@j.7021]

@@angels.digitaldiary THIS!!!

[@moustik31]

This is one of the reasons, some men prefer young women (in their early 20s). Most of us are so ignorant at this age with little boundaries. So, the study was broader than the part highlighted. The part about BW is not surprising for example. But also, Mina Le just made a video about femcels, even if it's more an aesthetic than a movement of ideas.

[@rounz1]

The first line of your post reminds me of Al Bundy in Married with Children. In one episode he said: 'I'm a man--a real man. A man who loves girls and hates women!"

[@christopher6060]

A big fan of Harriet and As a straight cis male I couldn't agree more about everything she has said. Based of your comment of older men dating younger girls and the girls being naive I guess that may explain younger men dating less ( not validation of anything else they do). I think the standard set of females in the genz/millennia are fine but just not attainable by their peers of the opposite sex. However that is fine I guess the average 16-27 can no longer be average as they are competing with men that maybe older, more mature, stable etc. But I'm not complaining, both parties are entitled to standard I don't drop my standard nor should someone else in fact I work on myself to meet the standard set my those I desire Just a thought

[@ParisLeShea]

@@christopher6060 hoping you meant 18 instead of 16 lol but interesting take

[@christopher6060]

@@ParisLeShea what I meant is even for a 16 year old boy a girl his age would rather a 17 year old. A 16 year old girl would date an 18 year old over here peers even though illegal but my point is from a young age a females' peers are no longer of interest and rather someone in general who brings more which is normally older person.

[@ParisLeShea]

@@christopher6060 yes and even then, we are definitely learning that age doesn’t dictate maturity and many women would rather just opt out of dating altogether than date someone older.

[@immawalkingw3087]

This comment section is full of hate towards men.

[@orhanemiratlgan9478]

Not a surprise. Do anything in this world. But do not ever, I mean ever expect empathy from women.

[@DonTheking]

@@orhanemiratlgan9478 facts

[@bennyblanco5555]

They are just children

[@relrel1996]

Facts

[@abor1males]

Good

[@cosmicpesco]

I am low key glad to see this because I am fed up with relationships (marriage in particular) being seen as accomplishments

[@heathers432]

Omg! Me too!!

[@dianavivaldi4503]

I will never understand WHY marriage is seen like the biggest goal in life. They make it look like the big deal and the Door to heaven.

[@em.415]

@@dianavivaldi4503 It’s only promoted as the biggest goal for women. And it’s seen as a gift men give to women after women pulling their arm. Very patriarchal. But if women no longer desire marriage it all falls apart.

[@charmaineespeut4627]

A healthy marriage is an accomplishment because it's difficult to have one now days. Maybe I'm just a hopeless romantic but finding a person that you whole heartedly accept and vice versa out of all the billions of people to choose from and grow together is an accomplishment to me.

[@annieareyouok7671]

Getting married isn’t an accomplishment but it is something to be celebrated. Having a healthy, rewarding and lasting marriage is an accomplishment. The divorce rate is 54% the people on the other side of that who are happy, and not just enduring, I’m happy for them.

[@inthemindofkenzi8294]

Single man here. For me it’s a choice of abstinence. Plus I’m an introvert and I believe in spiritual ties. The last thing I want to do is attach myself to a negative person thru s@x. I think str8 men have an issue with being alone more than gay men. Gay me know that there’s a great possibility of being alone in old age and adjust according. A good amount of Str8 men don’t value the options and opportunity they have to meet a partner. Now they are single alone and don’t know how to act. Be safe ladies.

[@meko98743]

I really think for a lot of men, they want to have a girlfriend or sex to prove they're a "real man". And yes, that does come down to toxic msculinity and our broken gender norms, which mock and shame men for being single and especially for being a virgin. And some men never mature and realize that the opinions of people who think like that aren't worth it.

[@kathleenking47]

You DO ATTACH thru sex You sin against your own body 1 Corinthians 6:18

[@Stallion8057]

@@meko98743 preach bro.

[@bdott1538]

@@kathleenking47 he’s saying he doesn’t want to though.

[@inthemindofkenzi8294]

@@kathleenking47 how am I sinning if I'm celibate. Please explain. Also let he who is without sin cast the first stone.... John 8:7

[@lanzinator4734]

The women (specifically white women) who kowtow to these "high value" men baffle me. Even if he doesn't drop you the second you get old or gain weight - what have you really won sweetie?

[@professionalwidow]

Nothing. I would rather take a nerdy guy anyday over an “alpha”. give me a guy obsessed with trains, please

[@LGnLA]

​@@professionalwidow 🗣💯💯💯💯💯 I so love & adore nerds!!!🤓🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

It's a trauma response and the other side of the same coin that produces the men that abuse them. Not a coincidence that submitting to abuse is the ideal of the patriarchy and the violent men subscribing to it. Fortunately most women can at least escape these toxic conditions, even if they can't find a healthy relationship with a man but those who get trapped are the victim of patriarchal socialisation. There are so many children growing up in abusive households and we all react differently. For some women it ends up learning that abuse is a necessary component of love.

[@lanzinator4734]

@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 You're 100% right, and thank you for adding compassionate perspective to my comment. But if I may use a personal anecdote to extrapolate a broader point, when I look at the way abuse has perpetuated in my own family, it's been the ones who endured violence while also being told they were "special" by their abuser who carried that harm on to the next generation. CW: My grandfather beat all of his children. But while he targeted most of his children for being "weak," he singled out two sons, my father and one uncle, praising them for being masculine and special. Unsurprisingly, these two sons were the only ones who did not break that cycle of violence with their own spouses/children. I want to have compassion for all people, especially women, for the reasons you outlined above. But my sympathy starts to run dry when I (a white woman, which is all I'm qualified to speak on) see other white women endorse the very patriarchal systems that abuse them *because* that same system also privileges them above other women. These women are rewarded for not challenging the status quo. It's a survival tactic, and a trauma response as you point out. But a lot of these women have the power and social/economic capital to cause real harm.

[@chrislyn1868]

It’s just hard to have sympathy. Black women are constantly mocked and made fun of for being the least partnered and lonely, but now all of a sudden we have to read think pieces about lonely men and actually give them empathy when we got none? Idk man.

[@complete_mad_house179]

> Is a self proclaimed demographic of people who suffer from Loneliness > Doesn't have sympathy for other individuals going through the same thing at an alarming rate Maybe this is why you are the "least Partnered."

[@Souleyme]

@@complete_mad_house179 she’s clearly talking about the toxic men. Don’t worry about her being the least partnered when you might be next with that dumb mindset.

[@bennyblanco5555]

Just do your job as a woman and we will want you. It’s very simple.

[@stormyskyz7881]

Most men say all they want is sex… not a relationship. If I don’t want to be used for sex why be mad at me?

[@alexlevingston]

Situationship

[@bennyblanco5555]

Because you don’t do your job that you’re supposed to be doing on this earth

[@alexlevingston]

@@bennyblanco5555 Very true. 🙏🏿

[@bennyblanco5555]

@@alexlevingston it’s amazing brother none of them understand what their biological job is

[@BloodBornShadowWalker]

Where is this "most"

[@derinaries]

[S]ome men dont realize that theyve done this to themselves.

[@namegirl28]

Exactly

[@brie1026]

And that they also possess the power to become better.

[@las8883]

Yup. Many of them are so unpleasant to be around and mold their personality and values around these manosphere types but somehow can’t see that those very traits are turning people off.

[@orhanemiratlgan9478]

Nope. Social media and online dating caused it. It is called as disney effect.

[@PeteS_1994]

Who has done anything to their selves? We are products of our environment although we also have the power to change

[@KayAnn2121]

These creepy males are everywhere. About a month ago, I went to my local grocery store later than usual (about 10:30pm). As I was putting groceries into my car, a BM approached me out of the blue. He asked me if I wanted to discuss a business opportunity. Like what? With a strange man at night? He was so weird, I instantly got bad vibes. I told him I was satisfied with my job and not interested in a business. He then gave me the weirdest look....like I was the one with the problem. Then he turned around and walked towards the entrance of the store. I think he was one of those looney tunes incel guys who are so detached from reality, it wouldn't occur to him that a woman would be uncomfortable with his approach. These men are wacky and desperate for interactions with women.

[@invisiblerevolution]

Naw.... he's just a con-artist. I'm a 45 year old man... had some some dude, come up to me with the same type B.S.

[@las8883]

@QUAN TRAN creepiness has nothing to do with looks. you must be one of those guys who think this sort of behaviour is normal

[@victorsoto4821]

@@las8883 On the flip side then you have women upset less guys are approaching them because of cases like this where when a guy makes his move he is automatically labeled as creepy. Don't get me wrong there's a time and a place for everything, but you women are definitely making it more difficult to approach especially when guys are being put on blast for being "creeps" especially in gyms, where you have men minding their own business and all of a sudden end up on a tik tok for being a "creep". It's funny since I get looks all the time and signs from women at gym's that show interest and I ignore them all.

[@isabella6075]

@@victorsoto4821 lies bring me the stats that women are upset that random men they don’t know approach them

[@victorsoto4821]

@@isabella6075 So, tell me this if no man ever approached you, made a move on you, or showed any interest in trying to date you, how would you feel? since let's face it men are generally the one's who have to make the first move when they show interest in a woman. I don't want to hear hypotheticals. I know a lot of woman are brainwashed to believe now they don't need no man but in reality men and woman need each other. I also wanted to add I frequent the gym often enough and I notice women trying to get my attention all the time, but I don't acknowledge them. I can see through the peripheral they're checking me out and hoping I make eye contact so I can hopefully approach them and I never do. So, yes as a guy who's decently attractive I don't exactly have trouble catching women's attention and I know women's signs when they show interest in a guy. I'd imagine they feel some type of way about it, but it is what it is.

[@nickjones3860]

This article just proves what men have been saying all along. 80% of women go for 20% of men . The algorithms don’t lie.

[@joeycognition8824]

And they call us all deadbeat dads when majority of us in our 20s don’t have kids

[@isabella6075]

No one wants someone they are not attracted to

[@joeycognition8824]

@Deva That means the women are getting pregnant by a specific percentage of black men. There is a lot of low income BW having a lot of babies, considering that the population for black Americans continue to remain stagnant is because from 20-29 Over 50% are childless that’s a huge gap. The ones who are felons are likely to have kids with multiple women. They’re essentially dealing with serial reproductive abusers.. It makes sense, most of my female peers from high school are single parents more so than the males.

[@orhanemiratlgan9478]

@@isabella6075 Hypergamy is in the process.

[@isabella6075]

@@orhanemiratlgan9478 It’s called attraction

[@BryonyClaire]

The rise of violent misogyny really worries me, I don't even know a short term cure to this loneliness issue for these boys who have been raised to feel entitled to everything, including people's bodies, and you add in algorithms that feed of this, it's a disaster

[@KiraDaBeastNY]

The only short term thing I could see be successful is changing the algorithm to not show things like this. I was getting Andrew Tate shorts on KZbin for god knows what reason, and I'm not the only one, and because of it I basically had no choice but to hear about him. Long term solution is societal and communal support, for everyone frankly because god knows we've got something of a mental health crisis here, and changing mindsets and behaviors of the various toxic aspects of masculinity.

[@alfonzobarber9175]

At least you kinda care

[@coreyaruecker]

Be encouraging of the men around you. This problem isn’t hard to solve. Society just had an unwillingness for to take of their ideological lenses when looking at things like this. Just look at the comments here. Men get blamed for women’s issues and then they also get blamed for their own. It’s hard to stay at peace when everything you see is telling you that you’re what’s wrong with society.

[@JessieBanana]

I don’t understand how men can ever proclaim to be “leaders” and heads of household and community when they’re like actual children who can not manage their emotions without women. It’s absurd.

[@jamelahallsdyer]

The hypocrisy

[@puckman3241]

Many of us seek community solely to escape the fear of being alone. Knowing how to be solitary is central to the art of loving. When we can be alone, we can be with others without using them as a means of escape.” ― Bell Hooks

[@christiansnaturestudio6599]

Don't be a monk

[@cbpd89]

I'm grateful.I was raise by a mother with high standards, that's how I ended up with a good dad. Neither of my parents are perfect, but my dad would never threaten or coerce anyone and my mom would never take crap from anyone. It taught me to have high standards and respect myself and others. This is the generation where men have got to step up, or they are going to get left behind by the women who won't take it anymore.

[@AmandaabnamA]

I absolutely agree. I'm thankful because changes need to happen. The energy from the older generation is settle so you're no alone and it's so disappointing that so many incredible rush themselves to an early grave taking care of trash men with the bare minimum going on

[@TimXDDDD]

Nobody forces people to take care of trash people. If you tolerate abuse because of your "emotional maturity/big kind heart" or because you are "real man", then your are a coward or simply stupid.

[@em.415]

That settle mindset is why so many of them either divorced, or stayed in unhappy marriages.

[@Grrranola]

@@em.415 yep. That's exactly what happened in my family.

[@coreyaruecker]

Y’all have no clue. All the interesting men in my life are single and lonely. All the men with interesting skills and abilities who dedicate time to a craft and excel at it are lonely. The men who sit on the couch and literally do nothing but work and that, are usually in relationships. I can say this though. I would not settle for most women I meet, that’s for damn sure.

[@RennLea]

I don't know if I commented this before but your video a while back about starting medication was the direct reason why I went ahead and did it. I'm not as young as you are and I waited too long but I was tired of the circle of crazy that ADHD puts you in. I'm currently on a work sabbatical but when I go back I want to present myself as the person who got hired and not this person who over processes information but can't process it fast enough but gets stuck in her own mind but can't focus. But anyway I do want to make sure you know and I'm sure you do that your video helped a lot of people who were on the fence like myself. Seeing somebody as brilliant as you are come out and talk about your struggle was incredible.

[@JPaz-cr8os]

Looks like single men are the loneliest they have ever been, while single childfree women are the happiest, healthiest they have ever been!

[@jamelahallsdyer]

Lmao fr

[@bennyblanco5555]

Keep lying to yourselves it’s funny

[@kwamebrobbey-315]

@@bennyblanco5555 its true though

[@bennyblanco5555]

@@kwamebrobbey-315 enjoy the coping i mean, there's nothing else to say. you want to deny reality so have fun

[@ashasandhiasingaram3900]

100%

[@kamariasia]

That is my struggle with my husband of 15 years. We got together young but now that we're in our 30s, what he's offering is just not worth the trouble. Im asking for the basics and he's struggling with that. Smh, they just refuse to evolve.

[@kamariasia]

@@texasrose31 any advice for me sis? I'm sorry, it is hard. It's sad to love someone and feel like you have no choice but to walk away. For your own sanity. Being single is looking better and better.

[@laughingshaman1]

You can love him without having to live with him and letting his baggage weigh you down. Life is long maybe there will be a time when you can be together as partners. Or maybe you go on and make a happy life for yourself. You’re worth living happily.

[@meko98743]

@@kamariasia As a man, my advice is to go to couple's therapy, but if he doesn't want to, or if it doesn't fix, then leave. You said it yourself: he's not worth the trouble, and he's not going to change by himself, and I assume you've already tried to discuss this with him and he's either refused to accept this or has placated you by making empty promises he's failed to fulfil. So he won't change. There are better men (and women, and NBs--not going to assume your sexuality) out there you could be with.

[@kamariasia]

We have definitely tried counseling. And no, that's not working. We are separated. Have been on and off. I was trying to wait until my girls graduate high school before I filed for divorce but at this point, I'm pretty much living like a single woman anyway so I'm finding that waiting is not the solution.

[@derinaries]

@@kamariasia Get therapy for YOURSELF--enough of "couples therapy." Work on yourself and YOUR goals based on YOUR new life. Youve invested enough time and energy on someone who cannot or will not change/evolve.

[@tonyktown]

WOW...this subject needs Waaaay more than 12 minutes. I was literally hanging on your every word. Looking forward to more discussion on this topic.

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

This is a direct result of our social and economic systems failing in tangent with continuing toxic values that have treated women as under the authority of men, and that many men still feel entitled to. It’s harder for everyone to access high paying jobs and education, and women have higher standards as we have been able to enter these spaces on more equitable terms. We’ve also dismantled a lot of the social spaces that people and men in particular used to access for community outside of their romantic relationships: social clubs, sports leagues, community orgs, etc. So mix the social isolation, lack of equal opportunity, and feelings of entitlement together and that can unfortunately lead to bad results.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

Social and economic systems failing has nothing to do with men opting out of being better communicators, being emotionally available, being honest, being self aware, having emotional intelligence and maturity. That’s just a cop out. Since women aren’t relying on them being breadwinners, entitlement is their downfall. Plain and simple.

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 Those are factors but when you look at these instances of mass violence I think they are tied just as much to men’s anger and frustration over larger societal failures being redirected toward innocent people in the form of violence. I’m not saying it as a cop out or to remove any kind of individual responsibility, but we also can’t avoid these bigger societal factors at play. I also mentioned toxic values also being a factor, which is what you described in your comment.

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

@@pisceanbeauty2503 I think the key is the systemic entitlement that the patriarchal system and its messaging instill in men from day 1. All the difficulties (alienation, job market, economic hardship etc.) are also present in the lives of other demographics but straight men have systemically reacted to the slightest inconvenience or challenge to their wants and desires with agression and violence because what they start out with is a level of entitlement that is unique to their particular demographic. Entitlement is the main societal factor that is behind their violent behaviour, which is why it is the factor that needs to change. They need to understand that the patriarchy is toxic to them as well and opt out of its limiting and destructive narratives. As long as they feel the only identity they have is coming from external validation, while they also feel entitled to this validation, nothing can and will fundamentally change.

[@steph6109]

The social places don't make a difference. Inadequate men get dumped or never picked up at all. What a lack of social places does is increase men's frustrations in being able to access women....but it's the same man who is single for a reason

[@completely_worthless_being]

Funny how women are entitled to tall, rich, male model guys and nobody talks about it.

[@TheIdentifiedPatient]

And the misandry continues.

[@nonamewillbegiven6847]

Not a thing

[@kittirah4967]

Damn, I didn’t want this video to end. 😣 Your content is so validating. YES! Exactly! All of this! But if you tell them any of this they’ll just gaslight you, which is only going to keep women away from them more. Nobody wants to put up with that, not even them! Thanks for talking about this Kimberly! You inspire us to confidently talk our educated shit and stand up for ourselves! ✨ 🖤🔥

[@TheMidasTouch11]

GIRL! If you have the means, her patreon is SO WORTH IT!

[@TheIdentifiedPatient]

Keyword "validating."😂

[@editedcritic4354]

I think all in all, this article just proves that men need to be kind to themselves and to each other. They need to figure out appropriate ways to express themselves and navigate around loneliness. At the end of the day, it's not a war, we are all humans and we just have to try everyday to be the best people we can. I'm also happy that women aren't settling for mistreatment anymore.

[@artemis7642]

Would you marry a man with good character, values and treats you good but has an average income?

[@faithalways8537]

@@artemis7642 yes

[@artemis7642]

@@faithalways8537 👆wifey

[@bennyblanco5555]

@@artemis7642 all they do is lie, but go ahead and gamble if you want

[@artemis7642]

@@bennyblanco5555 we should have some faith in people... If everyone was to think that way nobody would form friends or build relationships.

[@orangecat999]

Industrial revolutions are simply modern day warfare among men on an intellectual battlefield instead of a traditional battlefield. In the end, the result is the same: winners take all. It's happening all over the world but at differing paces. Researchers say that as soon as men figured out how to create mass casualties among themselves they began to viciously cull the herd thousands of years ago. And today instead of death from battle, it's death by hyper novelty, addictions, chemicals, etc. And per usual, men draw the battle lines make the rules, and then blame the women. Blame us for what? Oh, we get blamed for choosing winners (hypergamy), choosing losers (thugs and bums), having babies too young (doesn't make good soldiers), having babies too old (ditto), not having enough babies (too few soldiers), having too many babies (quantity vs quality), etc. In the end, it doesn't matter because men are going to do what they do.

[@boblotoldo3051]

I'm reading as many comments as I can and just like the manosphere where men take no responsibility for themselves, women here take no responsibility for anything at all neither.

[@gz5405]

This is an AMAZING take! I do agree with the blame no matter what direction thing but viewing the industrial revolution as another means of violence is so interesting!

[@karrey2706]

They've always taught women "how to keep a man" and never teach men "how to keep a woman." Women no longer NEED to stand crap to keep a man and they still won't tell them how to "meet in the middle" in relationships. This will get worse if men remain tactless. What's scary is the possible gender violence increase from instances of breakups and rejection.

[@isabella6075]

What I have noticed is men are so obsessed with I need a girlfriend but when they get one they make no effort so woman are fed up

[@eigelgregossweisse9563]

Effort? Oh, we gave effort. I had an ex, she was just, non communicative. Face it, if the gender violence gets out of hand, it's worth it. We've long dued our consequences.

[@petervarga7913]

Don‘t you think everyone would benefit if we all work together with some more empathy and actually avoid that gender violence? It won‘t be nice for anyone…

[@xSTATOKEx]

Okay so we have identified lonely men can become dangerous and that is a problem. So, what are we going to do about? Nothing and just laugh at them? Oh good, that'll solve it.

[@amuroray9115]

What can we do? You can’t force them into therapy. And many are extremely hostile. So yes. Of course people are going to laugh at them. Especially when they’re spewing vile garbage. They’re like rabid dogs.

[@Zelly2001]

@@amuroray9115 therapy for the majority of men is useless, a therapist can’t save one’s masculinity. A man has to find it himself. I guarantee you if these men try to self improve their lives they’d be better off. But most are hypocrites, complaining they don’t get women so they just watch the hub.

[@davidharrow9025]

@Sarah C well thats ridiculous. There are plenty of men that would marry women in their 30s.

[@janemax1331]

@davidharrow9025 that’s not what she saying men make fun of women “hitting the wall” on these apps DAILY because they are turning 30

[@jamelahallsdyer]

We're not ruining their lives it's them

[@mercyrn35]

Hell, women get lonely too. It’s not easy finding the right man. It’s easy to find “A” man, but people with standards aren’t going to settle for that… we just dig in to self, family, and friends and enjoy life.

[@danielrickel8807]

There are lots of good men out there it’s just that every woman is always looking for the top 1% multi millionaire 6foot tall Adonis.

[@xxxmxxwm1564]

@@danielrickel8807 you literally contribute you men’s problems and their terrible image in the society

[@crab7564]

@@danielrickel8807 it's that mindset that keeps incels single

[@blackgirlblue1795]

@@danielrickel8807 that's the big disconnect. Men think there are all these good guys and the reality is most of yall are crappy partners to women even if you are good friends to other men.

[@MegaAbgt]

No no. You mean Insta and tiktok and tinder just to boost your ego

[@williamfagerlund158]

I wonder what it takes for people to snap out of the childlike mentality of "boys vs girls", and try to see the bigger picture. The disconnect is mutual. There are problems and privileges on both sides of the spectrum, just taking different expressions.

[@circleinforthecube5170]

black and white tribalistic thinking like group vs group is responsible for the majority of human misery

[@bennyblanco5555]

Actually, it’s giving them the right to vote which they don’t deserve

[@fletchong4110]

Women will get approached hundreds of times a month as well as have an exponentially better support system in society (women supporting women). Then they will experience SURFACE LEVEL loneliness then hop on the internet and compare their experience (ex: 5 minutes without a text) to a man’s mutidecade stretch of no attention or love or validation from the outside world. Blaming the extremely small minority of violent lonely men to belittle the entire realm of genuinely lonely and depressed good guys out there is mind blowing.

[@parklady4233]

Generation X may have been the last generation of women who were taught that codependency is love. These men in trouble in a world of women who can validate themselves.

[@davidmotes2171]

As men, we are used to being alone. With all of the factors considered, we see NO benefit and all the risk when getting into relationships. The result will be a severe decline in marriage and birthrates. At this point, we would much rather sit back and watch this civilization collapse than continue down this path.

[@isabella6075]

Goodbye

[@baphometrise7443]

Research Parthenogenesis in the animal and plant world for starters. Biological women can self-create Life. Look at Nature and how the males are disposed of after donating their genetics since it must be coded that they bring no value to building sustainable and equitable communities.

[@xxxmxxwm1564]

Yup, bye! Because we ain’t interested in losing careers and education to give birth to more children to keep this stupid and not working system alive.

[@misanthropicblackchick6092]

Women are moving on without y'all get over it

[@Tetzukai]

The end of the world as we know it… What could go wrong?…

[@gianelogan7780]

Red pill has caused an increase in hostility towards women. And believing they are the prize. I pray men get the help they need because they are not replaceable in society

[@boblotoldo3051]

It boosts men's self esteem which is absolutely necessary. Men's self esteem are on the low because they have no motivation. The more standards they have via the rise of self esteem, the better off they will be because they'll have earned self respect and worth and not be a slave to their impulses, which, right now, they are. Experiments have been done where men will even hit on overweight 70 year old women... that tells you everything you need to know. There's a lot of aspects of the Red Pill which are beneficial for men.

[@calebhamilton8382]

A child rejected from the village will burn it down

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

It’s very dangerous to need a woman to make you happy. That gives anyone so much power over you.

[@EbsMileHighAdventure]

Please lets ALL start paying attention to that first red 🚩flag. I promise there will be more. Stay vigilant ladies!

[@kitejohnson515]

I had a 50 year old man ask me to cohabitate with him recently mine you I’m in my 20s and I tried to be nice as possible and tell him no and he was like idk if anyone will love me at my age and I’m thinking just get someone your age living with a 50 year old white man is scary like why would he think I would even be interest and he even wants to split bills ! These men are delusional

[@EspeoniaManga]

A girl in her 20s moving in with a 50 year old man and still having to go 50/50 on bills? 😂 Dude needs a roommate, not a girlfriend

[@smoker6683]

Stop treating single and lonely men like they’re less than human and that might help. 😊

[@bluesteel1]

thiss .....

[@leedlbagginshield8492]

people have been treating single women bad back in the past as well. Just stop doing it

[@SoniaAnastasiaaa]

I wish men always treated women like humans

[@smoker6683]

@@SoniaAnastasiaaa Stop interacting with douchebags then. Easy.

[@kenos911]

Let’s just all treat eachother as humans all the time ngl

[@RealAnita926]

I'm a black female, single and happy 😊 I will date when I'm ready.

[@the_awakening332]

Men facing loneliness at an all time high and of course here come the women on their way to make it about themselves and play the victim

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

Just searching up on YT about male loneliness because I felt lonely, and seeing videos similar to this pop up of women taking about our loneliness and pinning it back on all of us and generalizing us, I think that people do not give a shit about men being lonely, and either wish to blame the loneliness back in them, or claim that lonely men are dangerous, are abusers or rapist, and killers. It’s weird, its like we as men are monsters for feeling lonely.

[@bennyblanco5555]

Stop being so coward

[@missandry2669]

@@anotherrandomguy8871 good

[@jdmiles4811]

Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater argument. So if a man is lonely that automatically makes them dangerous? I can make the argument that there are many men in relationships that are even more dangerous than man who are lonely.

[@nonamewillbegiven6847]

No you cant

[@15948716]

I don't think you understand what true loneliness is clearly you have options to pick and choose from. True loneliness is having no one... no one at all.

[@ebonih7138]

I was dating a guy for a year plus who didn’t never waited til I got in the house before driving off. It was guised under equality. If he felt something was safe and comfortable for him, it should be for me. When I say I won’t settle, that’s included in there. I’m still embarrassed. I could go on about dating, it’s particularly why I was reluctant to break up. Focusing on your own growth is truly the solution out here.

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

That’s just something you do out of decency, no matter what gender the other person is. Sorry you had to deal with that for so long!

[@ebonih7138]

@@pisceanbeauty2503 ✨ thank you, onward and upward

[@em.415]

Girl don’t feel embarrassed we’ve all been there.

[@MaxineShaw_84]

Don't be embarrassed, especially since you received the lesson and aren't repeating it. That's major. My best friend's husband loves to bring up equality to justify his lack of basic human decency towards her. I watch her silently fold into herself every time. Be grateful you got out before the red tape really went up. 🥂

[@joyfitzgerald9878]

Don’t feel bad, Eboni. I drove us to the movies, and he wouldn’t put air in the tires , because of “equity”. 😔

[@turnthepage867]

It’s too dangerous and stressful for women to take chances with dating. Selectivity is a survival instinct. These guys don’t know how to treat women, but they want your attention anyway.

[@theeternalgus9119]

“Selectivity is a survival instinct” Never heard it put like that. But yeah you’re right.

[@shadowrock]

Well, neither do you know that. I'm pretty sure of this

[@martinwalters8677]

Women don't know how to treat us either.

[@arnystalking.3849]

yep ! i wish every men read Bell Hooks "the power of change : masculinity and love "

[@SunseedStarchild]

If only they didn't hate feminists so much, they'd realize some of them worked on their behalf too.

[@brie1026]

You mean "The Will to Change"? Or is this another bell hooks book?

[@arnystalking.3849]

@@brie1026 yes this one ! I read mine in French so I try to re-translate it 😀

[@brie1026]

@@arnystalking.3849 Got it

[@phoenix8125]

I think this is wrong but lets be honest men are in a big disadvantage in everything related to relationships, friendships... if only women knew how horrible it feels

[@HypatiaReigns]

@phoenix8125 bahahhaha you cant be serious. If only men know horrible it feels to be coerced, shamed, abused, gaslit and unalived for centuries. Your lack of understanding is…epic.

[@illuminatibraincontrol]

I feel like everyone saying "men just won't go to therapy" are kind of ignoring a very real problem, which is that mental health care in America is simply horrible, many are unable to find a therapist and when one can, it can be very difficult still to find a decent one. I've had friends with psychiatrists and medication shoot themselves. I've had friends and family grow more suicidal through medication that just didn't work for them, with doctors that won't listen. I've had my own therapist look at me blankly, at a loss for how to proceed, before resuming her autopilot. It was one of the times I felt closest to finalization. Additionally, I, and many others, are not given a framework to assess our own mental health. We are too often raised with a dulled emotional upbringing, which you did address, and it can take a long time in these circumstances to realize what's happening, and then even longer to actually successfully acquire proper help. I do need therapy. And I want to try again. It's just so hard to find someone who can understand my brand of cPTSD.

[@sleepycowboy18]

More incels gets mad, the less girls wants to date em. like the psychologist streamer guy said, the moment you think and make and effort to better yourself AND for yourself, the more potential partner will pops out around you. Honestly im also bing chillin being single

[@christiansnaturestudio6599]

Nope

[@christiansnaturestudio6599]

I hate careers 😆

[@hdvest1776]

Not the best analysis of this rise in men being single. Men tend to bare most of the cost in relationships, not saying it's bad if you find the right person. Men put a lot more at risk: relationships cost his time, energy, and money, the return on investment is that she can opt-out at any time and take some of your earnings. It not that she will, its the fact that she Can. We're talking the average guy, most guys. Average income 30 to 45k....and Men being aware of the 50 percent of marriages end in divorce, and more than 70 of divorces are initiated by women, not due to cheating, most due to financial...it's not a good deal if you look at it on the man's side. Men are just not willing to risk their average income, Many Men are simple! Live very simple lifestyles, they rather choose simple: peace, quiet, freedom. If a man decides to get married, I have issue with it as long as they know what they are getting into. The issue of dangerous single guy, its a different issue. Free to disagree.

[@demolitionizer7686]

Low key sick of people disregarding this issue. I'm 30 and I'm going to be single the rest of my life. I'm afraid to approach women. Too many man haters out here.

[@aenesidemus8819]

The comment section seems to confirm your suspicion...

[@xxxmxxwm1564]

We’re not ‘men haters’. We just criticise men for all of the bad things they do. You need to see a difference between hate and criticism. Many women are afraid of men, too, so your situation is not special.

[@orhanemiratlgan9478]

So many women are anti-man nowadays.

[@petervarga7913]

@@xxxmxxwm1564 but are women afraid of men and still „want one“ or are only men afraid of women and „wanting one“? („Want one“ is the idiotic/egoistic way of saying want to be in a relationship)

[@TemperedWambat]

Imagine being called a potential murderer because you have no rizz

[@sprinkles512]

White straight male here... I was always told to be conscience about your surroundings and how you treat other people. I feel like other groups of men are not taught this. This self awareness causes so much anxiety and my demographic group. We feel paralyzed when socializing. We dont know how to fix it. We need a lot of help and no one is offering it to us in any way shape or form.

[@bluesteel1]

Dont care about anyone. Because nobody will care about you. Only treasure your family.

[@Kaledrone]

What the comment above me said. We are not needed in society anymore, we are irrelevant, as most of the comments here prove. Care only about your family because chances are they are the only one who would care if you live or die, nobody else gives a crap and will just laugh at your problems. What men need to do is learn to live in a world that doesn't want them anymore and be fine with it. Live for yourself and your own hobbies, and your family if you have a decent one.

[@sprinkles512]

@@Kaledrone Just a Mom, dad, sis and hopelessly in love with a woman im not sure has the same feelings for me. Life is so hard. She gets pursued by so many men and just has to be there. I have to earn lots of money, have good looks, be funny, creative, tall and intelligent just to get in the door. And thats only the first requirements before the 1st date.

[@Pindorama1850]

@@Kaledrone exactly, nowadays men are all seen as predators or at least potential dangers all the time, society's going more and more pro-women, not that im complaining, to me it's a great thing, it means that my little sister's going to live in a society that appreciates her. I don't care about society anyway, so long as I get the minimal wage that covers me, so long as I get to eat or drink, i'm completely fine with things as is. can't say the same for others though. just like you said, live only for yourself and family, if not for the family, at least yourself.