Longbow vs Crossbow Answer video - Destroyed

[@factsabouturmum9250]

"The best defense against it was chain ma-" NO. Do people forget about shields? The answer is always shields. Big ones.

[@floridferret4585]

Made of stone and rooted to the earth! ... I want a castle :c

[@floridferret4585]

Homini Lupus Damn double parkers

[@MaxonerousX]

Homini Lupus Always remember kids that the daedric tower shield can hold 225 enchantment points

[@DrCrispycross]

That’s effective. You have to hope that they all get the shits and give up before your food runs out.

[@killerfredde]

DrCrispycross worst case they catapult the sick ones in till you

[@duality7404]

Wait... "Thirteenth century English Longbow." "These were used in the 1300s." Can ANYBODY else see what's wrong here?

[@alexanderflack566]

Well, to be fair (although I'm not entirely convinced fairness is warranted, at least not to whoever wrote the script), they were used in both the 1200s and 1300s. Also after that, and almost certainly before depending on how strict your definition is (Six foot yew selfbow with 100#+ draw? The Norse had those centuries before the English used them to achieve their fame.).

[@mrmoth26]

The 13th century was from 1201 to 1300! NOT from 1300 to 1399 the guy was an idiot.

[@SolomonCaineReaper]

At around the 12 century, the recurve was developed and was far more effective than the longbow.

[@houndofculann1793]

@Nicolas Broszky "this is the second millenium we're in right now" NO IT'S NOT =D We have had two millenia already, the second one ended when 2001 started. You are seriously misunderstanding the order form of numbers here. Yes, your first birthday is when you turn 1 years old, but only because "birthday" means the _anniversary_ of the day you were born! That doesn't mean you just started your first year of life, you have already lived it! And your _second_ year of life started and ends when you turn 2 years old on your second birthday. Years 0-100 are the first century precisely because they are the first 100 years to pass. Century number one would be years 101-200, or the second century because they are the second 100 years to pass. Years 0-100 can in actuality also be called the century zero, as in century number zero, because zero is not a number of order. Now I'm not sure where you're from, but in my language we don't use the form "19th century" etc. at all, instead we say the equivalent of "the eighteen-hundreds", and this does result in some confusion among our people when studying English. Confusion that really really sounds exactly like what you've been writing through all of this conversation, so I just thought maybe you have a similar deal going on.

[@tommyfred6180]

@Nicolas Broszky in no country would the 13th century be considered to be 1300 to 1399. 13th century is 1200 to 1299 full stop. this is an international standard that has no flexibility in its definition mate. sorry but you are simply wrong. but your mistake is a very common one and a lot of people get a bit confused over the way century's are dated.

[@thebrutusmars]

Isn’t that the guy from Full Metal Jacket? FYI I wouldn’t blame the guy. He isn’t an expert on any of this, I’m pretty sure he’s just reading a script.

[@adorablecenturion8436]

He said he was on this show for the money, he hated that the writers made him make an imbecile of himself by spouting out bullshit

[@alexanderflack566]

Whoever wrote the script is an idiot or simply dishonest, and whoever decided to bring an "expert" who doesn't even draw properly (for a warbow; he's using a modern archery draw which is very much not the same thing) should be banned from making any decisions on the show.

[@joshuawiseman5629]

@@alexanderflack566 true however gunny knew his firearms and modern archery he was a great marksman and a legitimate marine drill Sargent he was originally started out as an adviser for the actors on full metal jacket because he was a legit marine corps drill instructor but they loved him so much that they put him in the movie and that's what started his acting career he was very knowledged on Vietnam era and newer weaponry it's not his fault the script writers made him sound like a jackass cuz he was farthest from it

[@alexanderflack566]

@@joshuawiseman5629 That's why I didn't say anything against him. My comments were aimed at the writers and the fake expert. It should not have been that difficult to get someone (Mike Loades, Joe Gibbs, Mark Stretton, etc.) who actually knows what they're talking about with regard to English longbows.

[@snakeenjoyingacanofbeans5219]

Gunny needed munny

[@genericfakename8197]

The longbow was a terror weapon? We need to ban these assault bows, their only purpose is to penetrate armour and kill.

[@genericfakename8197]

Jason Fowler People can get assault bows and high capacity quivers from a local fletcher with no background checks. If archers had to fill out a piece of parchment before getting an assault bow, there would be no more war in europe.

[@jakebaumfalk3965]

Of course, we can't ban all of these weapons, but we should implement reasonable restrictions on the purchase of these weapons. Think of the children.

[@genericfakename8197]

Jacob Baumfalk Only bows that have not been painted in scary colours shall be made available for sale.

[@SpaghettiToaster]

Restrictionist rubbish. It's every archer's right and duty to protect his lord's land from trespassers. Did you know that 100% of Continental European wars are between countries that do not have english longbows and countries that have them have a much lower risk of peasant revolts??

[@lllllRBlllll]

LOL you guys are great :D

[@dablop1]

7:33- the knight, sarcastically- "Ohh nooooo, i have been poked! I guess i shell just lay down and die now!" *beheads the shooter*

[@adonisadmirer2752]

*shooter's head stops rolling and turns towards the knight* T'is but a scratch!

[@dablop1]

Jeezargo *Knight cuts off his arm* Its just a flesh wound!

[@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy]

Some Dude Skallagrim throws a pommel. Wins.

[@mr._kevster]

qwerty qwerty it was only a matter of time until this meme was mentioned

[@amitabhakusari2304]

How is he supposed to see when he is wearing a breast plate on his head? But then, the archer isn't qualified to take on a watermelon.

[@gokulauri]

Also, fun fact: Archers were really buff because it took a lot of strength to pull some of the heavier bow strings

[@nicholascauton9648]

Something a lot of games are quite guilty for showing archers as the "weaker" class. However in fairness in the context of video games, if the archer was strong, most people would choose them since it's practically embedded in our DNA to shoot targets at a distance while staying out of harm's way.

[@jeffreygao3956]

But they rarely had much skill in melee fighting.

[@jayoppold3346]

Not necessarily. Not that many groups of muscles are used in archery. Gaining the strength to draw a heavy bow is challenging because the way the muscles are used aren't usually used like that.

[@CommunistRaccoonDog]

Great video but the guy in this episode, Lee Emery, hated doing this job. He even said he was forced into these poor situations by the writers and had to spout the nonsense.

[@CommunistRaccoonDog]

I know it doesn't change anything but the writers of the show are the real shitlords.

[@mariobadia4553]

RIP

[@michaeldougherty2807]

@@LeutnantJoker blame the "experts" who were giving him the script. He was a marine drill instructor, turned actor. Most famous for appearance in Full Metal Jacket.

[@jurtra9090]

@Drakilicious Metatron did not hate Gunny personally. Chill out

[@stratospur2100]

No one made him do it. He was paid to talk crap. he could have refused.

[@ClassMRule]

Basically just don't watch history channel

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

Unless it is digging up relics or ruins but if its weapons and armour don't touch that with a 5 foot pole

[@ClassMRule]

HiiPER MaaDMaan Nah man. Aliens.

[@roylandmaines299]

+HiiPER MaaDMaan Aliens did 9/11 and the pyramids

[@Jacob-sx8iu]

They have some good stuff but then it just went all down hill with aliens and this crap

[@gunnar6674]

Both History Channel and Discovery are all just "reality shows" these days; the latter has some spin-off channels with some actual science conten (when it's not paranormal stuff). Where I am only National Geographic remains as a watchable science channel.

[@GarfieldRex]

R.I.P. R. Lee Ermy He just followed a script :(

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

"Are you from Italy" "Yes they make pizza with tomatoes down there" That actually made me laugh

[@waylandtbadger]

His "English longbow" appears to be an "American flat bow"

[@mawdeeps7691]

agreed the english longbows i have seen had more of a D cross section.

[@triwagon9242]

Lol,totally accurate weapons

[@Agent-Strawman]

Also, that's not a longbow. It's barely a hunting bow.

[@nasserfirelordarts6574]

Get reckt! I mean, can't the writers get just 1 thing correct!

[@xeverettx2564]

No, he shot the American recurve(best bow design ever made as far as longbows go) to show the comparison between a hunting recurve and an English long bow. But fuck all that I’ll just take a Hoyt compound shooting IBO 360fps. And some retractable broad heads. If there is a small opening in the armor or helmet I’ll slip right in there!

[@ramentaco9179]

Is that the drill instructor from full metal jacket?

[@rowdyparnell]

Yes. He was also a SSgt in the Marines and a drill instructor in his life

[@JxKITCH]

He told the story of him landing that job on a radio show. I believe it was Opie and Anthony. Kind of interesting

[@JxKITCH]

@john maziasz reported

[@NCC1371]

Rowdy Parnell he was also the drill sergeant in Space Above and Beyond.

[@GladstnJones]

He was also the toy soldier from You Story

[@slothenthusiast5422]

ok, but you gotta hand it to gunny... at least he hit the target.

[@davidbodor1762]

Yeah but why didn't the expert use the bow? You know, the guy who could probably hit it from further away and draw a higher poundage bow instead one that's half the power of a warbow? I mean he didn''t even say the poundage for the bow, and warbows were usually around 100 pounds and you couldn't draw them unless you trained to draw them...the crossbow doesn't look very powerful either...

[@GeistDrachen]

alpha jackson yeah and this show was meant for entertainment.

[@romanlegionhare2262]

He hit it, which is more than I could have done. That watermelon is probably a better shot with a bow than I am.

[@roganmuldoon3357]

a) shows like the Gunny used to do are generalizations for the curious, not discussions for the knowledgeable b) I'll credit the Gunny with the appearance of reasonable form while handling the bow (drawing a kindly veil over the failed arm protection), and definitely for having an 'eye' when it comes to firearms, but it was at very short bow-range.... and the magic of camera-work is that numerous 'takes' can give the impression of competence in the end product presented for viewers. c) I doubt that Gunny had much to do with content selection for his shows, but the Metatron is absolutely right in slamming the content providers for those shows!

[@nacoran]

History Channel is notorious for poor fact checking, or at least they were until they gave up on fact checking all together. Still, Lee Armee is funny.

[@Jebu911]

true when you watch this with your brains off nursing a hangover its good enough.

[@petersmythe6462]

"This is 62 lbs." A 62 lb crossbow? I didn't even know they went that low lol. My sister made a bow from a plastic pipe that has higher energy than that little 6 inch draw. She was 7.

[@murmor6890]

Also you'd have a hook attached to your belt and use your foot to draw it with a stomp, not fixate it with your foot and use the much weaker back.

[@Medved725]

You, Skallagrim and LindyBeige should have your very own tv channel.

[@Robert399]

+Медвед and Matt

[@gustavosanches3454]

+Медвед God, that would be more than awesome. Oh, wait, I don't watch TV anymore. Never mind guys, keep doing KZbin videos! D:

[@HarhanDerMann]

+Медвед YES!!!!!!

[@AxiomofDiscord]

+Медвед I agree. But of the three of you Skallagrim I find very interesting in particular but not as an expert or someone with knowledge of weaponry but as a person/character he just is intriguing on his own in a very unique way. He be a good central host for this channel.

[@theknightskyisi]

+Медвед Don't forget scholagladiatoria he's like lindybeige but nicer and focused on swordplay.

[@steveharrison76]

So the crossbow "beat" a not-a-longbow? WTF?

[@SpaghettiToaster]

the not-crossbow*

[@theaussiebogan9680]

As he put it as "62 pound crossbow' THATS A FUCKIN BABY CROSSBOW! TO GET IT CLOSE TO A LONGBOWS POWER IT NEEDS TO BE 350 POUNDS!

[@davidbodor1762]

Exactly, crossbows have ridiculously high poundage because of their small draw size. It should be around 350 at the very least but there are some that are 1000 or higher and were drawn with levers or cranks.

[@colinp2238]

History has proven that the longbow was superior to the crossbow. The archers would send volleys of arrows that rained down on enemy lines creating havoc. It has been written in ancient texts that arrows darkened the sky, this is because of the numbers fired in vollies.

[@davidbodor1762]

colinp2238 It's situational though. Longbows are really good at long range but for close to medium range you'd need a crossbow. They are also fairly decent against armor due to the heavy draw weights that can be achieved by using cranks or levers.

[@markofthej4476]

pay your respects for poor watermelon warrior

[@nonamefound68]

MarkoftheJ44 F

[@PIERCESTORM]

MarkoftheJ44 F

[@Swenthorian]

F

[@shaynehughes6645]

F

[@AnArtInEveryLabor]

F

[@davidmcginness6718]

This old dude doesn't realise that English longbowmen were trained from childhood to learn how to use the bow well and were among the most muscular men in the army, he has niether of these assets. The crossbow was brought in soley because any peasant could learn to use it in an hour regardless of their fitness. The longbow was clearly superior but required a lot of time and devoted training.

[@davidmcginness6718]

sexi man 'You can fire a crossbow for far longer with little effort' I already addressed this, it was easier so it was favoured in medieval times. 'Fire heavier bolts' longbows don't use bolts, they use arrows so apples and oranges. What do you mean 'power'? That's really really incorrect. crossbows are consistent in their power, I'll give you that. Whether a trained archer or a peasant uses it the power will be the same but with a bowmen there are variables. The training and physic of the archer for example. You didn't even mention the fact that longbows send arrows much farther than crossbows send bolts. So as I already said in my last comment, if a proper trained archer is using a longbow, it will outmatch a crossbow.

[@davidmcginness6718]

sexi man Really? You're going to bring up speed here? Well okay then I'll say crowsbows take ages to load whereas a bow can be loaded and fired within seconds. What do you mean 'long periods of time'? A guy can fire a bow for hours if he's fit. What you're saying depends on the bowman but the bow itself has the ability to fire forever so your argument is invalid. You ARE incorrect, My point was it depends on who uses the longbow whereas a crossbow from medieval times will always perform worse regardless of who uses it You're argument is frankly ridiculous when you say English Longbows 'shoot further than some crossbows'. I am talking about a specific bow, the the English Longbow and I was saying that it was replaced by the crossbow in medieval times because it was easier to learn how to use it. You can't compare a specific bow from a specific time to ANY crossbow from then to now. Ir was brought in for conveniance, doesn't mean that in the centuries since then they made a crossbow better than a medieval bow. Yeah I did make you specify arrows because I know I am correct in what I said regardless of your inflated ego that needs to contradict everyone else You're arguing with the wrong person. You're trying to argue abour crossbows and bows GENERALLY. I am talking about why many medieval European countries replaced bows.

[@InquisitorShepard]

your logic is disconcerting. so the hardest it is to do something the better it is? if it's way easier to use a crossbow than a bow it makes it a more efficient weapon for most people, since they won't need a life training to be able to kill someone with it.

[@davidmcginness6718]

sexi man I see. So you can't read for long but you ARE capable of spurting verbal diarrhea in large paragraphs

[@davidmcginness6718]

Jean Philippe Cornay We're talking about the capability of a weapon here. It takes a lot of training and care to use a sniper rifle efficiently, does that mean a water gun is better because any moron can use it?

[@_Gandalf_The_White]

Skallagrim and Lindybeige need their own channel on TV

[@_Gandalf_The_White]

and a whole lot more peeps

[@theaussiebogan9680]

Gandalf The White yes

[@joshuaspector8182]

I second this

[@randomnumbers84269]

TV still exists?

[@a_bionicle6635]

Gandalf The White Gandalf, what are you doing here? Shouldn’t you be in the undying lands with Frodo and the elves?

[@petersmythe6462]

"My bow is only half as powerful as a full English longbow." And you're shooting a modern lightweight arrow bearing little resemblance to a longbow arrow. And that LARP maille is only half as powerful as my pullover hooded sweatshirt.

[@huskycommander]

I don't think we should pin everything on Gunny though, he's just the speaker. The scriptwriters are to blame for how poorly researched it is D:

[@bram9762]

I stabbed a tin can with a pencil but it didn't pierce, which proves that plate armour can't be penetrated by spears.

[@Agent1W]

+Bram van Veenschoten That's because you're supposed to stab the horse the tin can is riding on so the tin can falls on its ass so you can beat the crap out of it while it's down...like in the movie 'Braveheart'.

[@brandoncarlos7057]

+Agent1W fuck the nazis

[@ottovonbismarck4920]

Brandon Carlos hi

[@JDBriceProductions]

"Oh, dear me! Reginald, it seems I have forgotten my helmet at home! What will I do during the battle?" "Well, Michael, you could always wear your breast plate on your head." *gasp* "Brilliant suggestion, Reginald!"

[@socialist-strong]

8:10 he knows so little about archery his leather hand guard falls off!

[@americaforamericans4768]

his what?................please know something about a subject before you want to criticize others. You are no more intelligent than the idiot that made this video.

[@NayfaJoinsMinecraft]

The draw is also wrong, the Mediterranean draw uses three fingers, not two.

[@TheShowdown16]

The Draw is not sutch a big deal. But as an archer i can tell you, he definitely hurt is arm at 8:08 ^^.

[@TheShowdown16]

Michael Jarrett I too dont use arm protection. It's not nesseray when one knows what hes doing. But if you look closely you can see that the string definitively hit his arm and even moved along it for a quite a bit. People often misjudge the speeds and therefore kinetic energie of objects in slow motion because they aren't used to it. To the untrained eye it doenst look like big impact, but it is. I don't understand the second part of your comment...

[@chrisedwards3866]

Michael Jarrett, riiiiiight. Because protection gear is made with the assumption that everyone does everything perfectly. It's not made to handle the case where someone messes up. And as we all know, once someone gains basic competence in a skill, they never make a mistake again. (/sarcasm) Protective gear is made to protect against injuries when things go wrong. Most activities will not involve injuries if everything is done right. You might as well say you ride a bike without a helmet because you don't crash. That may be true, until something unexpected happens and you crash. And guess what, people do get distracted and make mistakes - that's why protective gear exists, why race cars have roll cages, and why your keyboard has a backspace key. If you want to claim you don't make mistakes: You've been writing and typing for far longer than you have practiced archery, and you missed a lot of punctuation. If your own words are an indicator, then you are an error-prone archer as well.

[@Fulgrim308]

"The longbow was the sniper rifle of the day" fucking what?! Ahahaha no, heavy crossbows were much better for that because despite the lesser range you could actually snipe with them.

[@Fulgrim308]

Shreyas Misra Exactly! At least with the crossbow you can take more time to line up a shot and wait for the right opportunity... And even then, "sniping" would only be effective against lightly armoured targets...

[@Ninjaananas]

The best are slinngshots loaded with pommels.

[@UmatsuObossa]

Actually they WERE used to snipe...except it required a very skilled archer to do so.

[@UmatsuObossa]

Trouble was there were far more archers than there were SKILLED archers. You couldn't feasibly build an entire military unit of SKILLED archers. Those that WERE skilled absolutely COULD precisely snipe people with them (of course not at the great distances and scoped precision of a modern sniper rifle, but that's like comparing a cherry bomb to a nuclear missile)...you just couldn't get your hands on HUNDREDS of skilled archers to all snipe down the infantry. The downfall of the bow is the immense skill required to use it to its full potential...but AT its full potential it can compare to, and even beat out certain modern pistols.

[@TheVortiger]

what the fuck are you smoking?

[@dirremoire]

“The bow is literally a big spring”. That is the last accurate statement that guys makes.

[@mikaelkosmou6292]

OMG I love this channel, I've been saying these things for years!!!! THANK YOU!!!

[@metatronyt]

+mikael kosmou Thank you for watching :D

[@mikaelkosmou6292]

no problem man keep making them!!

[@ChunkyTheClown]

+mikael kosmou He reminds me of Donald Trump. Something about the voice...oh, and the idiocy, of course XD

[@GrizzAxxemann]

+Andrew Economous He's Italian.

[@StoutProper]

Talûn-karkû The Warchief he speaks with quite an English accent actually, my best guess is Northampton or Coventry maybe, so he probably lived around there for a while

[@Thebluesniper477925]

All due respect for the Gunny, but he should just stick to firearms.

[@fdsdh1]

+BluVampireHunter well his firearm vids aren't much better tbh, he should ditch the history channel really

[@akagruntkiller]

+BluVampireHunter No he shouldn't his representation of firearms is just as silly.

[@JSHADOWM]

+BluVampireHunter he rigged the AK47 vs AR15 test several ways.

[@foobar201]

+JSHADOWM That one is supposed to be silly (I think) but there are others that are just boneheaded.

[@carlosdelacadiz6658]

Gunney was just narrating a tv show here, not claiming to be a bow expert. He was a Marine and veteran of the Vietnam war, so he knows about war.

[@InSanic13]

15th century warfare isn't even remotely like modern warfare.

[@NroneChilean1]

Whats even worse is they actually play it on that "history channel" LOL its better to do your own research or listen to people on youtube like Metatron than watching this history crap. Metatron you should be the one to have a tv channel !

[@Agent1W]

+Nr One Chilean I agree, but it wouldn't quite make for good entertainment for the, *ahem* lowbrow folk.

[@Axon4000Gaming]

History Channel IS the channel that has an array of shows such as Ancient Aliens, though...

[@rancper]

+Nr One Chilean To be fair, this show is mostly about guns, and is far better at that then swords.

[@dylanfontaine591]

yea I prefer to look into a book or search up some good sources, history channel is for my ancient aliens

[@dylanfontaine591]

yea I prefer to look into a book or search up some good sources, history channel is for my ancient aliens

[@notbobby125]

The long bow was very effective in a few battles against mounted knights. However, the key word here is MOUNTED. In the late middle ages, very few knights put any armor onto their horses. The archers could shoot the unarmored horse and bring both mount and rider crashing to the Earth.

[@timothyheimbach3260]

what about Poitier or Agincourt? the French there were not on horses because they knew there horses has been slaughtered at Crecy

[@blefyplayswowable]

+Timothy Heimbach Too much mud. Everyone died from arrow volleys, except the lads that were completely clad in armour; whom all ended up surrendering.

[@locuraromantica]

+Timothy Heimbach I think english victory on those battles is the result of their preparation, and their situation in the battle. Long bows could penetrate armour at short distance, but could not at long distance. One thing is true, english archers could fire a high quantity of arrows in short time.

[@moopshpadin5195]

+Duende Satírico Also a large amount of the armoured knights collapsed from exhaustion in the mud.

[@timothyheimbach3260]

Moop Shpadin and were trampled by those following at Agincourt.

[@iamachinesepetwholies5476]

7:40 "Look at that" Metatron: "Look at Whaaaat??" LMAO

[@metatronyt]

+Lerquiy of Nirlac Metatron is not a thing, it's an angel in ancient Judeo/Christian lore. And it's correct in English to place the article before his name, so you might find it lame, but it's not grammaticly incorrect, and it's how you normally refer to him.

[@tasatort9778]

+Metatron If I remember right Metatron along with Sandalphon are called "Angels of the Presence" because of their constant attendance in the presence of God.

[@tasatort9778]

It doesn't exactly sound right but I'll have to take your word for it as the majority of my library has been destroyed

[@tasatort9778]

I have always seen Sandalphon as the "Scribe of God" and Metatron as the "Messenger of God". The reason I called them the "Angels of the Pressence" is that, as well as I can remember, those two are always in attendance at the throne. As far as Satan/Lucifer goes; an argument can be made that Satan is more of a generic title rather than a proper name; much like prosecutor in legal circles. The variable natures seen in the various sources can, I believe, be due to a difference in the time and location for each individual source. Each reflecting the custom/tradition of the time and location the writer is from; much like the contradictions seen within other religions when moving from one geographical area to another.

[@tasatort9778]

Ok so I had them reversed, which for me is rather easy to do owing to the fact that it's been over 15 years since I've dealt with this subject.

[@patrickvincent2502]

this show is better for 20th to 21st century weapons than the middle age weapons. They are more accurate if they use modern day weapons mainly because Gunny has a history of The Marines before he was on Full Metal Jacket

[@im50yearsold]

I just noticed that his wrist guard falls off too lol

[@Bear-Knight]

R Lee ermie is a legend concerning American war movies and is entertaining with firearms. He is totally clueless when it comes to swords and Medievil armor

[@iamjoeysteel]

That bit with the crossbow when you said, "Do what? Sorry, that knight would have slaughtered you," just made me legitimately laugh my ass off.

[@notbobby125]

8:08 I would just like to point out the wrist guard he is using is so badly made that it FALLS OFF.

[@petersmythe6462]

"0.005 mm stainless steel" Hey. That gives it potential against bacteria.

[@JustScrapHD]

Why are suddenly so many people in the last 24 hours toxic? did Bob send them?

[@diodejr9385]

Lol true!

[@User-tx4kv]

They’re still here

[@tsgillespiejr]

I completely lost it at "a watermelon warrior has never..." My ribs! Help me!

[@metatronyt]

+standingunder ahahahah xD his short and miserable life xD

[@tsgillespiejr]

Metatron Absolutely love these videos, keep it up.

[@fredkay6743]

+carl jansen You mean the Battle of Agincourt as it was the main conflict between longbows vs knights. Some 2,000 Mounted French Knights as well as 6,000 Men-at-Arms with re-enforcments vs 300 Longbowmen and about 2,000 Dismounted English Knights. The English were outnumbered 5-1 by a superior French Army. But Longbows combined with lethal Bodkin arrows tore into the French army as they charged towards the English line and won the battle. There are some further details as to why the French lost, the poor ground, the English advantage of terrain. However, I cant be bothered to go into all that as it would take me hours to write up the whole thing in fine detail. Just, the French got their ass kicked. (Fun fact The 100 Years War didn't actually last 100 years. It actually went on for 116 years)

[@Matteo-mf1tj]

+carl jansen It´s true that the medieval sources arent so accurate, but what we know is that the longbow won the battle of Agincourt (but also Crecy, Poiters,...). Thats not only because of the strength of the bows, but because of the number of the bowmens and there skills and physical efficiency. All bowmens were professional soldiers, which have trained every day from they childhood with the bow, another point for the longbow is the body of professional bowmens, to tense a bow you have to be physically strong, especially the arms and shoulders were very bonded. The frequence of fire was also impressing, skilled bowmens were able to fire 6 arrows per second, but soldiers with a crossbow only one. The number of of bowmens was one of the biggest advances, take the battle of Agincourt, there have been about 8000-10000 bowmens (this fact is based on founds on the battleground) All together we can say that the bow is more effiectiv on the battleground, than the crossbow, if you use it like the english have done it.

[@tsgillespiejr]

Matteo S. Six arrows per second is highly dubious. As near as I recall, the average for a skilled bowman was three (?). All of the things you mentioned about bowmens' high level of conditioning is basically true, but one could make the argument that that factor places the longbow at an actual *disadvantage* to the crossbow (which can be drawn and held at draw with minimal effort). I think what most distinguished the longbow was its greater range (?). I would assume an arrow fired from a longbow can cover a greater distance in less time than a horse carrying an armored man. And horses are fairly large targets. After being stuck fairly full of arrows, I wouldn't imagine a galloping horse would be galloping for long. Forget about armor piercing and killing charging knights with longbows. The longbow, in my estimation, was an anti-horse weapon. (?) Means somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, by the way.

[@grnd_ctrl8387]

Regardless of the misinformation, R. Lee Ermy and this show has helped my interest for weaponry grow when I was younger.

[@LungsOutJem]

Dude, they had to use a weaker bow because neither of those guys has the power or the practice to draw a proper bow and hit a target.

[@Real_MisterSir]

+Jeremy Cantrell Showing them whil trying to simply shoot an actual Britsh Longbow would be far mroe educating than this bullshit they call educational television xd

[@LungsOutJem]

Daniel Kemnitz you're not wrong, but them spending the entire show struggling to draw it once would've made them look bad. These guys are far too into their own macho image to allow that.

[@dracocrusher]

Simple solution: Hire someone who already has a proper bow and the practice to use it to shoot at stuff. It would probably cost about as much as their graphics and "expert" did.

[@MizanQistina]

use/create some mechanism to draw and release the arrow

[@christiannguyen1266]

Then, that's the point of an EXPERT

[@BrochTyr]

The "history" channel is really a joke in so many ways.

[@ksortakhkraxthar5019]

Aliens.

[@spearfisherman308]

They use to have shows that were filled with just historians.

[@teemuvesala9575]

@@spearfisherman308 Used to. They don't have anymore, haven't had for long time. Far better content now on KZbin with lots of history channels here.

[@spearfisherman308]

@@teemuvesala9575 exactly, and you get to hear academics studies which the history channel used to have.

[@mr.p2544]

RIP Lee Emory

[@davidbrener2538]

F

[@trslim6032]

They use Command and conquer music in the beginning.

[@viysnjor4811]

A lot of history and military channel shows do that, i noticed

[@Shankinator-zx4tp]

@@viysnjor4811 It's too good not to be used.

[@Hoshi_Toranaga]

Loved the video. As a master archer and a lot of research I have done with the archeological institutes available to me here in Austria and on my visits to the UK here are some facts (or commonly agreed upon things by those archeologists): The usual british longbow had a draw of 120-140lbs which seems extreme and it was, most archers found in digs are easily identifyable even without their bows as they have deformed shoulders and are rarely over 25 years old. This harsh draw was necessary as mostly longbows that were not made for hunting in battle were used as artillery. They were shot at an angle into the air to cover good distance resulting however that power and energy were already dminished when hitting the targets. It was a pure factor of overwhelming number of arrows shot and the typical archer sucked big time at close range shots as aiming was not their game. Then there were of course hunting longbows and specialist longbows (today you would prolly say sharpshooter, which is not really true as they would have to get in close). The typical distance to hunt or "sharpshoot" an enemy however was about 15 to 20m TOPS. As especially the arrows could not be tuned like today. The draw of the bows was about 70-80lbs (still a lot, try one hehe) as those made it possible to actually aim (for a split second). As you said even there it is not really proven that arrows could penetrate armor, especially thick breastplates, it is thought that typically the archer was a supporter trying to find an opening in the armor and wound the enemy or slow them down for their hack and slash supporters :) (at least this is one theory) However these arrows with good heads could typically penetrate weaker armor spots and they were effective against many types of chainmail. The longbow (unlike shown in Robin Hood) was actually a pretty inacurate weapon, most of its accuracy came due to the length of the bow, giving it some stability. However the most important thing about a bow are the arrows and British arrows sucked big time. Most were cut wrong, too thick and the fletching was done in a hurry. Compare those to arrows found in Mongolian society and you wonder how they shot anything. In Mongolian society actually the fletchers were experts and people of high status, as they made arrows that were able to withstand the huge power of the riding bow. Even though the riding bows were usually only 40-60lbs in draw weight, due to the recurve design being able to store more energy, their performance was much better leading up to speed in excess of 200ft/s. With arrowheads able to overcome chain and splinter wooden armor they were perfect target weapons with great precision. Only downside their shortness (made necessary as often they were shot mounted) so they became more instable. There would be a lot more, however I am tired of writing hehe, hope you found that interesting.

[@KingBongHogger]

RIP :( yeah this show was a little cheesy, but he was a great actor and person.

[@yoco93cro]

English WAR (there also was a hunting version) longbow could be up to 160 lb draw weight and there was a law in England saying that every peasant and low ranking citizen must own a longbow and train shooting with it once in a week. For using a longbow properly, you had to train with it for many years, and not just picking it up shooting with it in a bad form like that guy. And for crossbows: that "expert" saying: " You can get them up to a hundred, hundred and twenty pounds." Medieval war crossbows were 4-5 times stronger than that!!!

[@derdingsreturnsnochmal5177]

Please read your comment again, especially the last sentence.

[@yoco93cro]

thank you, it was a mistake, I wrote this at perhaps 3am

[@SethAbercromby]

If I remember correctly, 200 pounds was the heaviest for crossbows that were drawn manually, but the winch designs could get somewhere into the ballpark of 400 pounds (don't quite remember how far up they went from there). What is to note though is that the English Longbow was still one of the most powerful ranged weapons. To match a 160 pound longbow, a crossbow with half as much draw distance would need 320 pounds to match, as force is acceleration times distance. A crossbow however needed much less training to be used effectively so it became a much more common weapon in warfare.

[@yoco93cro]

no, they were much more powerful. This is what I found on the internet: "The goat's foot crossbows having a draw weight of around 450 pounds, the cranequin around 750 pounds and some heavy siege crossbows 1200 / 1500 pounds. " "The use of these advanced spanning mechanisms made the crossbow a powerful but slow weapon. Payne-Gallwey decribes shooting a 15th century Siege bow of 3 foot 2 inches length, with a bolt 3 ounces in weight and 14 inches in length, a distance of 460 yards. At 60 yards he sent a bolt right through a deal plank 3/4 in. thick. The total weight required to draw the string of its bow 7 inches using its portable windlass was 1,200 pounds, or over half a ton."

[@SethAbercromby]

yoco93cro Hm, must have had a bend in my memory lane. Still, while not quite in the ballpark where I had put it in my post, those 160 pounds still turn out a good deal more powerful than you would think in a direct comparison with crossbows. The draw distance is pretty short, the longest I could find on modern crossbows appears to be 8 inches (and historical data is surprisingly hard to come by on a quick search, but even recurve crossbows don't seem to have been that much longer, so we're likely talking 10 to 12 inches at most to allow for comfortable and accurate shooting). In comparison, the English Longbow is build for a 30 inch draw distance. That is to say an 8 inch crossbow needs at least 600 pounds of draw weight to match a 160 pound longbow and 480 or 400 for 10 and 12 inches respectively, but as I said, with the crossbow being that much more practical, it provided a much more efficient tool to train soldiers with, even while still less powerful at the time of its inception. Density does trump firepower when the higher firepower is not an almost guaranteed penetration. I should have added that the statement for the longbow was of course applied relevant to its age, not the significantly more powerful crossbow designs that followed a century after.

[@Vlad-eu1oq]

From 4k to 5k over the course of 3 videos. Nice job man.Keep it up.

[@ChUwU5]

+Vlad JMK I think this was caused by Matt Easton reposting the Longsword vs Katana vid on his facebook... At least thats how I found this channel ^^

[@metatronyt]

+ChUwU5 Ye Matt was super helpful, I owe him a lot :D

[@ChUwU5]

he just shared this video ;)

[@metatronyt]

ChUwU5 Yes I noticed :D

[@Ares14]

R.lee erney is allowed to lack knowledge, Metatron. He's a goddamn legend.

[@SM-nz9ff]

nope

[@12345DJay]

2100 people get all their knowledge from history.com

[@nasserfirelordarts6574]

3800 do so now... Poor souls...

[@EternalQuestion]

8:05 he hits his arm so badly with the string that his bracer actually comes flying off (in glorious slow mo)!

[@RaduFrancezu]

thank you, Rafa, for putting those clowns to rest. I am really laughing out loud right now in my kitchen, watching this. keep up the excellent content making.

[@metatronyt]

I'm glad you liked this :)

[@BestICanDoIs20]

Radu Francezu fat slob are u still eating in the kitchen?

[@klen4569]

Robert Chapa someone is triggeref

[@adorablecenturion8436]

*boi, one does not simply call Gunny a clown.*

[@aglaisurticae5010]

When I saw the original video i knew within the first two seconds he had no idea how to use a bow.

[@shivraajkumar3653]

62 pounds of draw weight for a crossbow? 😂😂😂

[@westonwells4357]

You have to understand who this is made for metatron, its not made for historians its made for the fans of R. Lee Ermy of which I am one and although there are some things that might not be represented perfectly, there was very little if any flat out false information being presented as fact. I think the point is more to show some carnage to those of us who enjoy it and it gets a general point across (pun intended) that these weapons can inflict serious damage. As far as entertainment value its gold. Im not sure you (beening a European) can fully appreciate R. Lee Ermy and thats ok. I appreciate your original content and even some of your critics of others content but there is very little value in pointing out the ridiculous antics of this video as there in lies its charm. P.S. still love you metatron keep up the good work

[@tedstriker6646]

History Channel in general is a lot more about entertainment than facts. They seem to be more interested in distracting a population with decreasingly large attention span than actually teaching people history. They just don't care. As long as the guy from Full Metal Jacket is smashing watermelons, it's fun enough to watch. Now let's go back to commercials. Mind you, the average American person doesn't even know what period the Middle Ages covered. They know there were knights and bowmen because they have played computer games with these characters, but that's about it.

[@panagiotislemontzis9986]

Umm, I heard that Speznaz uses mideval 15th centeruty crossbows?

[@MCAroon09]

Umm, no

[@coltm45a16]

He still lives in china during ww2

[@warcreed5658]

No way in hell this bow is half draw weight of the English longbow. English longbow was at least 150lb. That means half of is 75lb, which would never be drawn that easily with only 2 fingers without tab or glove. Besides they said the crossbow was 62lb of draw weight (which is very light for crossbows with that short draw lengh, which also reduces significantly the power of the bolt) and it penetrated better than the "longbow". That means the bow was probably 20 to 30 lb max. 75lb bow would kill this poor watermelon knight

[@jeffreygao3956]

7:36 I love the way he says "That knight would have slaughtered you!"

[@flyingtrap4169]

god i love your channel

[@Ironfist85hu1]

Dang, the Katana vs Longsword is unavailable in my country anymore :S

[@ryand6312]

also isn't mail normally a lot stronger made of better steel and riveted and put together so the holes are not very big and the armor is way stronger because there is no way that they think that mail would be realistic

[@scenic3181]

"The breastplate turns out to be more effective than the chainmail" wow really?

[@texanamerican101]

I ❤ your sarcasm and passion. 🍻 its well deserved. I use trust these shows when I was little. Thank for debunking

[@dcs3395]

Why so many dislikes? Did he say something incorrect?

[@dcs3395]

Devon Graber Lmao ikr

[@WollongongWacko]

I like metatron, I just feel protective of gunny, if metatron made the movie full metal jacket better, I'd feel differently maybe

[@jeffreygao3956]

Butthurt Lock n'Load fans.

[@arghunqon3774]

add 486 Cheap comedy, i can say the exact same sort of lame jokes like him. In fact let me come up with one now = Have you seen his fucking intro? He casts magic and his name comes up wow what a wizard! How can he call someone a Watermelon Slayer when he probably does the exact same shit. At the beginning he points out the ”lag” when he probably cant animate like that himself. And hes using normie jokes.

[@arghunqon3774]

add 486 Hes trying too hard to be funny which makes it annoying to me.

[@nachoolo]

more please, theres so much bullshit in what this guy said that you can make quite a lot of videos.

[@samuel10125]

It's sad that this great man is gone now.

[@rodneypayne4827]

Gunny is a legend. Rest In Peace.

[@OutlawPrince45]

Long sword beats bow and crossbow, because how are you supposed to *end him rightly* without a pommel? Then again I guess you could weld a pommel onto an arrow...

[@steve2547]

OH MY GOD!! Metatron, my British sounding, pizza making friend, this is the funniest video I have seen in a while. 😆

[@wayofthesamurai8649]

"the terror weapon" THE WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR

[@troygrindley3793]

Shame he didn’t stick to loving his rifle and his gun. Great role in the film but boy the jokers at history channel sure as shit ruined this guy

[@ruthluther6880]

I fracking luv these vids. Funniest part is I used to take his videos as absolute fact. But now I am better educated about weaponry of these time periods.

[@turksungerbob728]

Same i used to unquestioningly trust what he said. That is, before I saw these types of refutation videos.

[@trevor3194]

I love the man who was in the original video. Sadly he died recently, but he was positively my favorite retired marine. He’s more of a firearms expert, mostly American firearms or well the best firearms I should say.

[@alastermyst]

8:08 I had to watch that a few times until I finally stopped laughing at it. Fuckwit's armguard flew off lol.

[@gemmeliusgrammaticus2509]

I absolutely love your use of logic. 🙏😂 you made me LOL multiple times, and I thanks you. ☺️

[@HazelS71]

yeah american TV is so over the top

[@somerandomguy5995]

ikr. Fcking media

[@justintimesYT]

watch?v=poszGytTHf0

[@loganplourde886]

I wish I could say most Americans aren't like this guy but... Most of us are. On another note entirely, would you listen to a band called Captain Craig & The Puss Pirates?

[@peger]

+Glenn Hayes Just compare American and European edition of hell's kitchen;).

[@Arbaaltheundefeated]

+Glenn Hayes If you mean over the top stupid, then yes.

[@ciCCapROSTi]

This show could be criticized for so much things. But you are just nitpicking.

[@LawlessNate]

+shinarit ...for so *many* things...

[@ciCCapROSTi]

+LawlessNate yeah yeah, fuck me.

[@jesusescudero6291]

Tbh I think he's just tired of properly reviewing these that he doesn't find any point in doing anything other than having a good laugh.

[@SeaDog337]

Good old Lee Ermey. Nobody ever accused marines of being smart.

[@NinjaAdorable]

You sir, have a new subscriber.

[@patricialavery8270]

I don't like you attacking Gunney.he's just a Marine who took up acting.He's familiar with Vietnam Era stuff cause he he was there,he's not an expert.Blame The History Channel and their fake experts and either their cheap budget or their lawyers that would not allow them to test real stuff.Gunney was just hired because he was well known to people who like military stuff.He also did alot of things to raise morale in our troops,which is why he got an honorary rank ,he was only an enlisted man in Vietnam.

[@SM-nz9ff]

False, and what an idiotic take. So lets have propaganda and or lies be ok because a person is 'xy or z'. Nope. He should have turned it down when it became clear it was false information. He even later clarifies that he knew it was shit...that's on him and no one should be dinged for telling the truth. And this comes from a military veteran who has relatives in the Marines. Being a vet doesn't give you immunity from criticism nor push back if you do something wrong, stupid, incorrect, fake news, etc.

[@kireduhai9428]

He wasn't really "attacking" the Gunny. He was just criticizing his work, which was well-deserved. He was an actor and clearly didn't know any better than what the History Channel folks told him, sure - but he COULD have found out, and he chose to take the job.

[@Dragonspirit223]

I just realized this, the music that plays in the background is from Command and Conquer Generals, USA faction, I think track two. Does anyone remember that game? (If your looking for it, its from 0:19 - 0:38)

[@VelikiHejter]

But, you can not make pizza without tomatoes!

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

+Radovan Dragović well you can use cream, oignons and bacon to make an alternative : "flammenkueche" (flamed pie), that is popular in Alsace, France. Not a pizza but not that far.

[@VelikiHejter]

Thank you for that information, I already checked the recipe and I must tell you that we, in Serbia, have something very similar called Serbian pizza, the only difference is that we put peppers, preferably hot, on it.

[@TheThingInMySink]

+scarfacemperor Man i fucking LOVE flammenkueche

[@Overonator]

This and the UFO and ancient alien nonsense is the reason that it should be called the pseudohistory channel.

[@m.a.packer5450]

R Lee Ermy knew his modern weapons. He should have stuck to his guns

[@amandafranks5108]

you could stand on that armour and it would bend lol

[@JohnSmith-yb5iy]

your having to much fun doing this and secondly the melons must DIE!!!!

[@metatronyt]

+John Smith ahahahah noooo warrior melon has sacrificed so much for mankind! xD ps: yes these are super fun to do xD

[@aragmarverilian8238]

+Metatron Both deadliest warrior and Gunny are filled with inaccurate bullshit to the brim. So feel free to debunk them, you'll have the fun of your life my friend:)

[@JohnSmith-yb5iy]

+Metatron could you possibly make some videos on learning italian Im quite curious and I could possibly find myself in italy this coming spring its not set in stone yet

[@metatronyt]

John Smith sure :D I will get back with the language part too soon ^^

[@gashamutaouagabougou9645]

+Metatron what show is this?

[@saltyark7564]

Lmao metatron is like “History channel don’t want this smoke” 😤 Lol I enjoyed the video bro 😎

[@CertifiedHustler68]

This show was cool AF back in the day. R Lee is one of my heroes

[@Breacher141]

I laughed so hard. thanks for the laughs man. i love this

[@alexandervidenov2070]

Is it me or they used at 0:18 the soundtrack of USE from C&C Generals / ZH?

[@LordSchnoz]

Don't make fun of R. Lee Ermey. He's the patron saint of insulting. He'd souffle your Italian ass quicker than you can say "per piacere."

[@MakoTheFrog]

+Baba Yaga he's an obnoxious hick

[@ScipioMexicanus]

he may be proficient with vocabulary and modern weapons, but he doesn't even know who to ask for good advice on medieval stuff.

[@XavianBrightly]

the 13th century was not the same as the 1300's did they have a single competent person in the making of this?

[@sillysad3198]

+Xavian Brightly it looks like History Channel, they are "alternatively competent".

[@joejunior6214]

Yes money wise... They have a lot

[@skyewaybright4293]

Xavian Brightly, I agree. 13th century was the 1200's. This means that these guys got it off target by a 100 year gap.

[@evanstacy6103]

I dont think a man who only handled guns knows much about bows and swords.

[@youngmoney4693]

Medieval soldiers watching this from heaven like: 0_O

[@ThePoeticPariah]

I'm fairly certain the show had a budget to work with, hence why they didn't use a super accurate, well-made, and fairly expensive armor. The History Channel has had a record for cheap production and is partially the reason they cover less history today. Besides, spend enough money on something and I'm certain you won't want to destroy it immediately after.

[@litfurher4206]

Poetic Pariah If they couldnt have bought proper equipment they should have stated that this test isn't accurate.

[@SM-nz9ff]

Not this videos problem. and ultimately irrelevant.

[@edgarmaestre6622]

Also i hate their horrible accent, i prefer your english with sweet italian accent, metatron. Maybe because i am mediterranean too. Greetings from Catalonia!

[@tamasjenovari2248]

why are there so many dislikes? i dont get it. Metatron i believe knows his shit and these guys just messing around with stuff they could get their hands on. its not the only bullshit show on that channel... btw we've been inserting your statistics into roleplaying games we play Metatron, and it works flawless ;) Molto Grazie!

[@zekezhar7837]

+Tamás Jenővári I'm pretty sure it has to do with the fact that the old dude was an American war vet who does a lot to help returning soldiers, so you can't call them out, even if they're wrong.

[@InfernosReaper]

No, it's because he's blaming a host for the mistakes made by the staff. The military war vet guy isn't a medieval historian or HEMA practitioner, so he had to rely heavily on the staff. The staff didn't provide appropriate information or weapons, not a competent practitioner to test them.

[@klen4569]

InfernosReaper that may be true but not the reason why most people disliked