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A bit of Everything

A bit of Everything

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@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
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@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary Ай бұрын
People need to realize that the Coven was not evil and when you go from that viewpoint you realize that they were just a family trying to protect there children but also there way of life- They didn’t kill anyone they didn’t hurt anyone the only time they used there powers was always in defense never in trying to kill someone After Mother Aniseya was brutally murdered by Jedi Sol wrongfully that is when the Coven fighting still in defense but also in offense so that no other person would die- You can feel how you want to feel but Jedi Sol Jedi Torbin and the wooky Jedi we’re all in the wrong Carrie Anne moss was the only one who consistently tried to understand what was going on from a higher big picture view point But those Jedi after what they did should have all been stripped of there station and immediately removed from the Jedi order and the fact that they weren’t because they kept the secret for 16 yrs shows that they were corrupt and had fallen into darkness The witches were definitely innocent the Jedi came in like child protective services and instead of actually looking at the situation Sol just immediately said they were in danger all because he wanted a Padawan if you listen to Carrie Anne moss character She states and that’s why I have a Padawan and you don’t they made that scene jump out because they wanted the viewers to realize that Sol was jealous of not having a student to teach so much so that it clouded his judgment. Yes the witches lived differently but all three of the male Jedis were jumping to quick conclusions and making their own decisions At the end of the day aniyseya had made up her mind about letting osha go with the jedis there was no need for violence When she shouted out No it was her way of trying to stop the jedis and mother Koril from fighting and before that happened Sol yet again jumped to conclusions and killed her immediately making him the bad guy and darkening his spirit Everything after that moment was just a response to the jedis killing their leader but they never were in danger the ceremony wasn’t evil and neither were any of the witches They just did things differently
@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary Ай бұрын
I don’t agree with this man’s statement that osha was being forced into something at the end of the day these are her literal parents teaching her there way of life it wasn’t evil and it wasn’t bad she just wasn’t interested in it it’s the same when teaching children about religion It’s not something they particularly care about and most think it’s boring but when we teach them about it they learn and see a new way of thinking that’s literally what the coven was doing I don’t like how the insinuation that osha was being forced into something at the end of the day she was behaving like all children behave when They are being taught something that they don’t necessarily see the good in because it’s either boring or just not fun it’s the exact same as How Jedi Torbin feels he’s clearly tired of being a padawan and wants to go home as he states multiple times in this episode So I bet it’s your opinion that osha was being forced into something but just like the Jedi Sol BOTH OF YOU ARE AND WERE WRONG
@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary Ай бұрын
This man that runs this channel A BIT OF EVERYTHING IS WRONG he’s doing the same thing that Jedi Sol and padawan Torbin did now I don’t know if it’s because there all men but they all have a bad tendency to MANSPLAIN from the very beginning of the episode we clearly see and hear Padawan Torbin saying he wants to go home he’s upset he’s bored he’s tired of being here on this planet and doing the things that they are doing He said we’ve been here for 7 weeks that’s almost 2 months and it’s clear that Torbin is only like 15-16 yrs of age but again it’s clear he WANTS TO GO HOME So for you to say that Mother Aniseya made him obsessed with wanting to go home after she gained control of his mind I’d say that’s a big assumption and your doing the exact same thing that Sol did jumping to conclusions making assumptions and being wrong At the end of the day Mother Aniseya and Mother Koril are osha and Mae’s real parents they are not strangers they have not kidnapped the children and raised them in a forced way these are there children So for you to go along with what Sol said thinking the girls were not safe he didn’t even know them so him automatically assuming they were in danger was wrong on his part and yours for agreeing with him No one at that fortress would let the girls be hurt and if they were we know for a fact that there mothers would stop them period We saw mae go through the ascension and she was fine she was still herself she wasn’t controlled or manipulated or brainwashed she was still the same girl the only difference is that her connection to the power was stronger that’s it She was never in any danger and this false narrative that sol and the guy running this channel keep trying to perpetuate is not true They girls were never in any danger and Sol used that excuse to do what he wanted Which was to gain a padawan and that’s what he did he murdered mother Aniseya and he brought all of the Jedi there down he made them fall into darkness because he was selfish he was aggressive he was hostile and he was evil him killing there mother and then Telling osha that mae started to the fire which we know she did on accident but Sol never knew that he just made it up on his part and lying
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
​@@MotherJanuary Excellent commentary. Let me totally agree with you that the Jedi made the biggest mistakes and I put the majority of the blame on them for everything that happened. So we 100% agree on that. Where I respectfully disagree is that I am a father and I love my son dearly. And because of that, I would never ask him to take part in anything that he didn't understand and was afraid to do. Osha said she didn't want to take part in the Ascension and was scared to death right before it was about to occur. I feel it was horribly wrong of the witches to put Osha through that ceremony without helping her feel more comfortable about it. A key part of parenting is to help your child understand what you are asking them to do and not to put them in a situation where they feel they are being forced to do something they have clearly expressed they are afraid to do. So I feel the witches were completely in the wrong with how they dealt with Osha. Sol correctly picked up on the fact that Osha did not want to do the ceremony and once Osha was given a chance to choose her own destiny, we find that she wanted to go with the Jedi instead. So the Jedi's initial actions actually freed Osha to be able to have her own say in things. And I credit Aniseya with seeing this and being willing to let Osha leave, once she was no longer forced to be part of the ascension. Had the Jedi not shown up, Osha would have been forced to do something that even her own mother later realized wasn't what Osha truly wanted. I hope that helps explain my reaction to the witches and how I felt they were being borderline abusive to poor Osha. A parent should never force something on their child like that, imo. I can only speak for myself and how I treat my son, but I felt they were completely in the wrong for making her be part of that ceremony and they should have instead respected Osha's pleadings to not have to do the ceremony.
@ssotkow
@ssotkow Ай бұрын
Episode 7 contrasted how much Sol has changed (on the surface) as a Master Jedi to Padawan Jecki in the 16 years since the aftermath of Brendok. Sol was once an impulsive Jedi who had a knack for breaking protocols. Now after learning his lesson as a senior instructor to younglings, Sol has become obedient to Vernestra (e.g. reconvening with council in lieu of rushing to Kohfar to help Kelnacca). Unfortunately, Sol reverted back to his old ways after the slaughter of his entire team. I feel like the Sun (aka Sol) is usually bright, until eclipsed by the moon, as symbolized by the titular moon. Darkness may fall again in the next encounter with Osha, fully exposed to the truth of the past.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Wow… That was really well said. Fantastic commentary on Sol. Yeah his character has been so fascinating to follow. They make you want to love him, but then you learn about this darkness and these mistakes he’s made and it changes your overall impression of him. I can’t wait to see what happens in the finale!
@carlosandres7006
@carlosandres7006 Ай бұрын
If the mother would have said "you can take OSHA" Korill would have lost her mind
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h Ай бұрын
"So if she weighs more than a duck.......SHE'S A WITCH!!!"
@marshsundeen
@marshsundeen Ай бұрын
Yes. Korril would fight regardless.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Oh, I totally agree...but that said, Koril was gonna lose it no matter what. She was willing to send Mae off to stop Osha from leaving at all costs, so Koril was hardcore on keeping Osha there!
@DianeNalini
@DianeNalini Ай бұрын
I enjoy your weekly analysis, thank you! I think it's possible that May never actually said, "I'll kill you" and that is why they didn't show it here... Since Episode 3 was told form Osha's perspective, then maybe she thinks she heard that. I like how we've got unreliable memories shown in some of the flashbacks... This week's episode (7) seems to have been more from the "omniscient 3rd person" point of view because there is no single person who is present in each scene, so maybe this week's events were the 'true' events... not sure. Interesting in any case. I hadn't considered the possibility that Indara had not really contacted the Council but I think you may be right!
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
In her defense she didn’t think a stone fortress would burn down ever a simple electrical fire
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Oh wow...okay, I like the idea that Mae didn't actually say "I'll kill you" because you're right, they were the only two in the room and Episode 3 was from Osha's memory of the event and thus could have been flawed. Very cool insight into the episode! Also, this is unrelated but that's so cool to see on your YT page that you're a jazz singer and songwriter. Wishing you continued success!
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
Episode 3 was the memories Sol implanted in Osha via brainwashing and this Episode is the reality of what really happened
@covertTJ
@covertTJ Ай бұрын
@@DianeNalini I agree she never actually said it. We just saw the warped memory of a girl who had been told horrible things about her sister. She had been told by a groomer for 16 years that her sister set the fire with murderous intent.
@nah7656
@nah7656 Ай бұрын
@@covertTJ I really think calling sol a groomer isn't cool. he was concerned for the twins... at the end of episode 7, I really didn't understand what the jedi did that was so horrible. Mae screamed out "fire, help me" (according to the subtitles), and she did indeed start the fire. also ive seen another theory of how the twins were supposed to be made into one, I dont know if that is true but if so, osha didn't want it. osha didn't want to be a witch. so sol being concerned wasn't crazy. also Anisaya (sp?) turning into that black mass would freak anyone out.... so much has not been explained and there is one episode left. 3 and 7 should have been one episode and let's maybe be careful with the word groomer?
@justinn243
@justinn243 Ай бұрын
Notice how Sol does not see osha briefly use the dark side force on the bird. He only sees Mae, furthering his future bias for osha. Another subtle detail (Long time viewer first time commenter, love the videos, they really remind me of college lecture/power point😂 )
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Excellent catch! Yeah, you're right, that's another example of how the limited perspectives each character had of the events resulted in the faulty assumptions they made. Really appreciate your comment and appreciate you being a long time viewer. Thanks so much!
@RAWFLAVA
@RAWFLAVA Ай бұрын
You deserve the insane number of views these click bait, rage bait, monetized hate and pseudo-intellectual alcoholic "content creators" get for dissing SW. You make the most eloquently thought out and engaging breakdowns / theories I've seen on The Acolyte! Kudos - enjoyed every minute of this!!
@alexneff
@alexneff Ай бұрын
This is the only way to watch the show
@RAWFLAVA
@RAWFLAVA Ай бұрын
@@alexneff what way?
@marshsundeen
@marshsundeen Ай бұрын
Agreed. I just subscribed.
@RAWFLAVA
@RAWFLAVA Ай бұрын
@@marshsundeen This is the way
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
Right!
@cccantv6457
@cccantv6457 Ай бұрын
Sol being hella emotional all episode.
@michaeldamico3000
@michaeldamico3000 Ай бұрын
Very un-jedi like....AND he confused Mae for Osha...totally off his game
@Watergate-Keeper
@Watergate-Keeper Ай бұрын
​@@michaeldamico3000 well if Mae and Osha truly are the same consciousness in two bodies, then that makes sense
@arunca190
@arunca190 Ай бұрын
Very impressive he just learned English and “western” expressions etc. But in the end, just a bit too much. Coulda used better coaching. But still very impressive. Great talented actor nonetheless.
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
I think this would be okay if the entire group of Jedi weren’t doing the same thing
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, it definitely demonstrated why the council didn't let him have his own Padawan.
@yoyomayne
@yoyomayne Ай бұрын
In defense of Aniseya, the Jedi literally spied on them, broke into their home and attempted to take their kids. She only turned herself and Mae to smoke to get them to safety like Mother Talzin did in Clone wars.She told the twins in episode 3 that ascension is about walking through fear and sacrificing APART of yourself. So Mae just repeated it wrong, she's only 8...
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Well said… Yeah, my only real issue with Aniseya’s actions is more around what she did to Torbin. I don’t think she meant to create the problems that she ended up creating… But by playing on his desire to return home, that led to him irrationally running back to the fortress, creating the ultimate demise of the witches. It just shows how a choice that seemed to make sense at the time can have disastrous results. I also think that since she was willing to let Osha go, she shouldn’t have taunted the Jedi like she did because that also created more issues. But I totally agree with you that turning to smoke was a defensive move and that Sol’s response was terrible. It really does get to the heart of the title of the episode, because everyone made choices that were unwise, and that cumulatively resulted in the tragedy of the witches dying. While I do place the majority of blame on the Jedi, it just seems that everyone made mistakes along the way.
@CarlWheatley-wi2cl
@CarlWheatley-wi2cl Ай бұрын
lol. A Jedi recon team investigated what they thought was an uninhabited planet. They spent nearly TWO MONTHS right next to a giant fortress on a mountain they somehow didn't see. The Jedi expressed concern for one of the kids that STATED she wanted to leave. The Jedi ASKED PERMISSION to take the child with them. The Jedi were ATTACKED by the witches without any provocation, including possession of the Wookie in order to MURDER them and mind invasion of practically a teenager that clearly F him up. Can you imagine this happening with a MALE antagonist mind invading a TEENAGE GIRL? The hypocrisy is off the scale. The witches then transformed into something, without any warning, that is OBVIOUSLY not benevolent, it looks like a F smoke demon. Sol reacted instinctively and with justification.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
​@@CarlWheatley-wi2cl I agree, I think the Jedi made the right decisions at first, because stopping the ceremony prevented Osha from being forced into something she didn't want. I do think the Jedi made mistakes after that, but I have to put the initial blame on the witches for being blind to the fact that Osha didn't want to do the ascension and wanted instead to choose a different life for herself.
@schulbus13
@schulbus13 Ай бұрын
I was really surprised that we didn't see Qimir this episode, really expected him to show up somehow
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h Ай бұрын
Maybe he was peeking at Qimir while Sol was peeking at the witches?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I agree...I really thought he would be there. Hopefully the final episode will clear up how he knows so much about Sol and why he has so many ties to the witches.
@schulbus13
@schulbus13 Ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U it would be a pretty unsatisying season finale if they didnt tell us 😅
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@schulbus13 100% agree!
@Dlo-Xpo
@Dlo-Xpo Ай бұрын
@AbitofEverything4U i really like your note of Osha hiding behind Mae after Mothe Aniseya throws the sisters down. because from Sol's perspective it looks like Osha is in fear of the women instead of the other perspective from ep3 that Mother Aniseya is just teaching the sisters
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
The sad thing is osha probably was scared of this witch cult… she wanted nothing to do with her upbringing
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great point...yeah, the episode did a really good job of showing us everyone's perspectives and how their limited view of things resulted in them making incorrect assumptions.
@pancrase9048
@pancrase9048 Ай бұрын
Everyone in this episode screwed up, the jedi and the witches turned it into a cluster F. I think Qimir will tell Osha the truth about what really happened and it will make Osha turn to the darkside and turn Mae into the light. I think the next episode we get to see the truth about how Qimir met Mae and what happened to Koril?
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
Osha already accepted the dark side when she put on the helmet I don't think Mae or Sol survives this season I think Osha will kill them both
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I agree...everyone messed up and it created a total disaster. And I suspect your theories for what will happen in Episode 8 make alot of sense. Can't wait for the finale to drop in a few short days!
@IdenNonya
@IdenNonya Ай бұрын
Great analysis. Torbin meditating in the flashback could've also been him fortifying his mind as he mentions later also I think the witches are dead, I think you can see the realization on Indara's face as she does it. and, I think it does have something to do with her decision making on the cover up I think it's fully possible that they might still be alive in some way, but I do think Indara fully believes that she killed 'em On the biggest open questions, what was originally number 8 today: Yord mentions Osha's sister in episode one on who died in the fire "your mothers, your sister". In episode 4 he says to Osha "Mae has always been your wound", commenting on how they've known each other since they were kids (or younglings as he puts it). I think people knew she had a sister but they just didn't know she had a twin that was probably hidden to draw less attention to the fact that she was likely connected to a vergence, and is essentially a consciousness split in two
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
He waited 6 years before he meditated… if the show was smart.. they would show osha failing the Jedi thus causing him stress because her becoming Jedi was the mission.. it would weigh on him more.. not enough to kill himself tho
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great observations about the info regarding Mae in the files. Yeah, I bet they just covered up that she's a twin. Excellent theory!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@btipton115 I agree, I really wish we'd seen a flashback of Osha failing. I think that would be very insightful information.
@couchtourist256
@couchtourist256 Ай бұрын
I've been saying this for years now. If Disney really wants to make a compelling show, they need to extend the run time to an hour. It would help with the flow and pace of each show sooo much. only small sitcoms do 1/2 hour shows nowadays
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Agree 100%! I'd honestly rather fewer episodes if it gave us more runtime per episode. But I also think they need to find a way to extend the episode runtime without dropping the episode count. Just adding more dialogue and character interaction in each episode could add another 10 minutes or so and would help so much with the overall story.
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
Marvel as well!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg 100% agree!
@Riley_C.
@Riley_C. Ай бұрын
It’s important to remember that they say the hyperspace disaster happened 100 years ago in a flashback episode, not during the main timeline. The actual core show would then happen in 116 bby
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
omg! You are right! I was so excited that we got what seemed to be a firm placement that I forgot it was a flashback. I'll credit you with this in the next vid. Great catch!
@user-jt1qc8vp9f
@user-jt1qc8vp9f Ай бұрын
One of the best breakdowns so far really lives up to “A bit of Everything”. Ep 7 shows a lot of how, unfortunately fear and ignorance ruled the day. The Jedi didn’t know how the Coven used the force or how they actually fought for that matter. Some serious mind control was the strongest weapon, even though Aniseya, unfortunately, gave the Jedi a sample in Ep3 in defense of the Jedi’s breaking and entering they (the Jedi) really missed it. I took the opportunity to rewatch Ep3 followed by Ep7 to review that Brendok is not part of the Republic, the children were too old according to the Jedi’s own rules(regardless of whether Indara contacted the council), Indara mentioning that they had already interfered too much, that sort of stuff. So many reviews have not said that the Jedi were out of their jurisdiction. The Jedi did fail to self regulate. Sorry, I do have a couple more questions first have we really got Mae’s point of view, second how and who or even what continued Mae’s training? I do like the way human emotions, responses, and actions regardless of “powers” are in display in this mystery. That said, over a 100 years or so maybe events such as this particular mystery and possibly others large and small were to illustrate the decline in the Jedi Organization. I will not be disappointed if in Ep8 ends with Jedi Organization continuing this cover up that had already existed for 16 years. The Acolyte gives a lot of meat to what happens in the Prequels, after 100 years of events off and on large or small the Jedi eroded. Some things had to happen that allowed Sidious to play with his food (food= Jedi, play=Clone Wars)then just kill it via Order 66. You did give more strong and good reasoning as to why within the Republic, that ONLY the Jedi could train children in the force. Again that jurisdiction versus all the emotional reactions comes to my mind. Sorry for the long comment but thanks so much for your review.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Fantastic feedback on the vid. I love that you rewatched Ep 3 after watching Ep 7. I really enjoyed doing that and I felt it helped me see just how cleverly they tied both episodes together. I agree, I want to know more about Mae's point of view and how she was trained. I truly hope Ep 8 dives deeper into all of that. Again, loved your feedback. Truly appreciate you taking the time to write it all out. Many thanks!
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h Ай бұрын
"What is it with 32?" George said in 1999 that "The Phantom Menace" is set 32 years before the Battle of Yavin.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, it sure seems 32 has some greater meaning in the Star Wars universe!
@timthewombat1
@timthewombat1 Ай бұрын
Maybe someone here said it already, but when Mae talks about 'everyone needs to be sacrificed' she misquotes Mother Aniseya saying something like 'everybody needs to sacrifice a part of themselves', in episode 3. I guess she could talk about fear specifically, or maybe hinting at something along the lines of the shared diad between the twins, or force techniques like the posssession-meditation in ep. 7. I don't feel like they would straight up ritually murder the twins, as they seem to be the key to the coven's intentions, seems like they are even their livelyhood. >> Edit: Ofc this still looks to the Jedi like they could actually be sacrificed Ewok-Style.
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
I think the sacrifice is her sister not the coven
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Well said...yeah, Mae was definitely misquoting what she heard her mother say. But you are right that to the Jedi (and apparently to Osha) the ceremony was terrifying. I love how the episode showed the different perceptions everyone had. Just shows how our misinterpretations can get in the way of clear thinking.
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
There’s also the possibility that Indara went pew pew pew from the ship while we weren’t looking. The black mist was just them teleporting like they do in CW. The witches consciousnesses got stuck in Kelnacca’s mind. They dead.
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
1)Maybe Qimir doesn’t have a master. Probably learned potions and spells from them. 2)because using a weapon would reveal their existence. 3)yes 4)Koril 5)the roles of Yoda and Mace but we are allowed to hate on her because she covers things up 6)synthetically using artificial insemination 7)because they think the Sith are long gone like the Vikings. They never find out about this.
@carlosandres7006
@carlosandres7006 Ай бұрын
They went to Kelnaccas head Matrix. So trinity killed them in that matrix and when you die in the matrix you die in real life too
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
@@carlosandres7006 totally 😅
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I did wonder if Indara might have fired on the fortress. The only reason I doubted it is because the rest of her team was still down there, but I did consider it. And yeah, I bet the witches were stuck in Kelnacca's mind. Yikes. Oh, and good theories on the answers to the open questions!
@characterwork.3
@characterwork.3 Ай бұрын
So many details here that I missed on my first watch of the episode!! I’d argue that the way to destroy a Jedi without a weapon is to get into his mind and make him destroy himself. Bc that’s what mother Aniseya did, and arguably what Mae did by getting Torbin to drink the poison through his own guilt.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great theory...yeah, that makes alot of sense!
@marshsundeen
@marshsundeen Ай бұрын
I wondered about Indara too. I think the council knew nothing of this.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Right! It just makes more sense that she never contacted the council. Everything fits together so well in that case. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the vid. Really appreciate it!
@johnmiwa6256
@johnmiwa6256 Ай бұрын
An extra 30 seconds showing Torbin wrestling with Aniseya in his mind following their first encounter would have explained his subsequent rush back to their temple. Another 30 seconds showing Kelnacca wrestling with the rest of the coven in his mind would have explained his later obsession with their symbols. It also would have been nice to see Sol not follow the standard Disney Star Wars trope that Men Are Stupid.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree, the show seems to give us lots of hints about what happening, but never seems to give us the specific answers. I would like for it to connect the dots abit more. Maybe we'll get that in the finale. Fingers crossed!
@TheShockwave1138
@TheShockwave1138 Ай бұрын
While I do think the show is officially set in 132 BBY, there is a technicality. When Indara says “a hundred years ago”, that scene is set 16 years before the “present day” events, putting the main show 116 years after the Great Hyperspace Disaster. But I think, more likely, Indara was rounding up, rather than saying, “84 years ago”, she just rounds it up to a hundred.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
That is such a great point… I can’t believe I forgot it was in a flashback. Would love to know what the writers believe the year for the present day of the series is. I do like 132 BBY, but I’m feeling it might not be as clear as I thought at first. We may just have to wait for the next timeline book update to know for sure.
@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445
@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445 Ай бұрын
Honestly, what I would really love is Qimir revealing himself as Darth Tenebrous master. We still don't know who that guy is, not even in Legends, and it would fill in the gaps so perfectly. And just a reminder, that Disney+ shows have the Bith mask as a resource and given time. They would literally miss the perfect shot if they won't do that.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I agree...Tenebrous would be such a cool reveal. And good point about the Bith mask. Really hoping they crush it with the finale in a few short days!
@ssotkow
@ssotkow Ай бұрын
31:24 Because Kelnacca's weakness is his desires to become a galactic Michelin star chef (as we always see him cooking), when the coven was prying the Wookie's mind, they were seducing him with all sorts of recipe ingredients, as symbolized by those drawings on the wall. Like drawings of novel dishes by Carmy in The Bear.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
lol...based on that theory we REALLY needed to see inside Kelnacca's mind during the temptation, just like we did with Torbin. All the witches would have been doing cooking lessons with him, it seems!
@RokBraker
@RokBraker Ай бұрын
Great breakdown. I really enjoy the positive rational analysis of the story.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks so much. Really appreciate the positive feedback on the video!
@ericneils3352
@ericneils3352 Ай бұрын
I felt that the witches were "killed" when Indara severed their connection with Kilnacca. I think that remnants of their souls/essence were trapped inside of Kilnacca. Those spirits were weakened/lost without the connection to their physical bodies, but those remnants are what ate away at Kilnacca, giving him the obsession with the witch spirals.
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
I never thought of that
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Very cool theory! That makes alot of sense.
@magdalena4153
@magdalena4153 Ай бұрын
In the Vader comics, Sidious sends Vader to obtain a kyber crystal to bleed and make it his own. Vader had to kill a Jedi without a weapon. So... Mea wants to create her own lightsaber.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Oh, now that's a very cool theory! Okay, I'd be down for that being the explanation. Hope we get our answers in the final episode. Looking forward to seeing how it all ends!
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
What does have to do with this episode tho
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg We'll have to wait and see what we learn in the finale. Anything's possible at this point. Can't wait!
@maureec
@maureec Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed your analysis and theories brother they were thoughtful and balanced 😄👍 I too think Aniseya going smoke and taking Mae with her was just her trying to get her daughter safely out of harm's way since Torbin and mother Korril were about to throw down. I think Sol's fixation on Osha becoming his padawan was an expression of his desire to form a parent-child like relationship by proxy of being her master. When you consider that he was brought into the Jedi order at 4 years old so likely didn't learn a secure attachment style himself, his need now when he's physiologically of an age where he could have offspring of his own isn't surprising. I also think the entire unfortunate situation was of the Jedi's making. They broke into the coven's home TWICE and everything that came after could have been avoided had they not done that. It could even have been avoided had they listened to the Jedi Council when they instructed them to not interfere any further than they already had. Indara was the voice of wisdom in here and it's sad that hotheaded Sol and impulsive Torbin wouldn't listen. I also thought that technically the Jedi didn't lie at first but now I think a lie by omission is just as bad as a lie of commission, but that's just me. My most far out theory is this. Kylo Ren's theme has been played when Qimir is around and when stuff happens on Brendok. There's a Force vergence on Brendok and there was a Force vergence on Exegol. Ben Solo was thrown into the vergence on Exegol and part of him (Kylo Ren) went to Brendok in the past while part of him (Ben Solo) crawled his way out to Exegol. Kylo Ren came to know the witches and met Qimir who was drawn to the vergence on Brendok. He was the tall hooded figure at the Ascension that never revealed their face. Kylo Ren became both the first and final Ren, Qimir is a KOR and Mae was being shaped to become one too. One or both of them saved Mae's life from the fall when Sol sacrificed her to save Osha. What will happen is Osha, seduced to the darkside by Qimir, will learn Sol killed her mother and not Mae and will kill him thus becoming a KOR as his death will be seen as a "worthy kill". Mae however will relinquish her quest for vengeance due to her gaining empathy for the Jedi through her learning what happened from Sol's perspective and why, will put down her weapons and darkside tendencies and become a moisture farmer on a desert planet. #istilllovestarwars ✌️😁
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
WOW...now THAT is a theory. I really do hope Qimir is somehow tied to Kylo Ren. That would be so cool. Thanks so much for sharing your theories. Loved reading it all. It was amazingly detailed and would be such a trippy ending if they went there!
@Ulyssestnt
@Ulyssestnt Ай бұрын
Catalogued as lifeless a hundred years ago because of a hyperspace disaster,it probably took some time to catalogue all the planets.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Good point! Man, we may never know when this show is taking place...lol!
@simondyda
@simondyda Ай бұрын
I think we will see the twins do that turn into smoke thing and reappear as a single individual who will kill Sol without a weapon and become the Acolyte. I think Qimir might get a holonet call from his master, whose species will match with the Darth Tenebrous of Legends, but we won't get much more Sith stuff or Qimir back story than that. There will be a lot of unanswered questions. I hope the outro of the final episode is not a pop song again, because I found it jarringly at odds with the rest of this season's soundtrack.
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
I think they will unite to kill both Qimir and sol
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
Qimir is the master why do y'all assume Qimir has a master especially after Venestra left lightsaber whip scars on his back And my theory is Osha will kill Mae in the final episode
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great theories for the finale. I really like the idea of Mae and Osha combining into a single being to kill Sol. Very cool idea!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg Good theories...so many different ways this series will end. Can't wait!
@gold4661
@gold4661 Ай бұрын
I think Qimir is the son of Sol and Indara. I mean first of all he got the looks but also i think that this would explain so much. Like his past as a Jedi because he then would have been raised in the jedi temple. I don't know if he ran away from the jedi or if he was separated otherwise but this also explains why Sol wanted to be Oshas Master so badly because he desperately wants to make up for being a father who couldn't protect his child. Qimir would also have been separated at a young age explaining why Sol has a sense of familiarity but doesn't know why. Also that's then probably why Qimir is so interested in the Twins because they are directly tied to his father.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Whoa...cool theory! I love that there are so many directions they can go with Qimir. Makes me all the more excited for the finale in a few short days!
@MarkLittle-rq2bq
@MarkLittle-rq2bq Ай бұрын
Despite sending the worst Jedi who ever Jedied (lying in general/being deceitful, being emotional and/or emotionally driven, harboring attachments, and being covetous), they still manage to save a young girl's life from a decrepit mining facility that caught on fire while dispatching a formerly hunted and exiled Dark Force coven of space witches despite the High Council's unwillingness to act. So, I guess the moral of the story is that you can have complete faith in the Jedi since even the worst they have to offer will still end up doing the right thing! Guess the good guys are...still the good guys! - who knew?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great summary...yeah, I think this episode perfectly displayed the hubris of the Jedi. They made mistake after mistake along the way. Granted, I feel the witches made mistakes as well, but the Jedi clearly were the worst offenders. The episode definitely illustrated how the Jedi's arrogance will eventually lead to their fall!
@Dlo-Xpo
@Dlo-Xpo Ай бұрын
@AbitofEverything4U I totally agree with you, The producers are 😢showing us that if you see it from each person's perspective, they have their own individual acts that created this scenario. CHOICES .... great breakdown. 🎉
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Yeah, I think the producers did a great job of that. Well said!
@covertTJ
@covertTJ Ай бұрын
Sol created these justifications for his "concern." None of it was valid. He stalked them and then vilified them for "pushing" their daughters to take lessons and engage in a cultural ceremony. Osha wasn't forced to ascend. She chose it under familial pressure despite being told by her mother that she didn't HAVE to. Are the Jedi wrong to push their pupils to take classes and hone their skills? Are we wrong to push kids into school and extracurriculars? The coven hasn't been shown to be evil they are just culturally distinct from the Jedi. The history of colonization irl is full of this exact thing. Fearing what you don't understand from people whose homes you invaded and feeling justified in erasing their culture or destroying them. For what? They were raising their children in peace.
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
Exactly my point
@covertTJ
@covertTJ Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg "these people prayed to false gods, so we enslaved and reeducated them and murdered those who resisted our light" is literally Christian evangelism 101
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Well said. I do think the analogy of the Jedi being colonizers is appropriate. And I definitely feel the Jedi were the worst offenders in the episode. But I do think it's important to note that Osha expressed several times that she didn't want to do the ceremony and right before it was about to happen to her, she was petrified. And then when the Jedi stopped the ceremony, Osha did decide she wanted to be tested to become a Jedi, so I think that showed she felt pressured into the ceremony. And in the end Aniseya was okay with Osha going. So had the Jedi not arrived, Osha's preferred choice would have been overridden. Still, all that said, I agree 100% that the Jedi screwed up royally and this was indeed the arrogance that led to their eventual downfall. Excellent feedback. Thanks so much for sharing it. I truly appreciate it!
@covertTJ
@covertTJ Ай бұрын
Yeah the familial pressure was there and Osha clearly didn't WANT to ascend. But that's normal. It's tradition. Culture. These things usually are compulsory for kids. Not saying it's "right" to pressure them out of choice, but it's a parent's job to instruct their child. Sol didn't know what Osha wanted until he coaxed it out of her because it was what he wanted. And then, while she still had the chance to change her mind, he created conditions where she no longer had the ability to choose her family. I think it's great that the show is exploring how Jedi are no monolith and some of them have made HUGE mistakes. As tends to happen when status is self-appointed.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
​@@covertTJ Well said...I love that the show is giving us lots to consider about the Jedi. It's been great in showing us the mistakes they've made that led to their eventual downfall. I will say though that as a father I can't fathom forcing my kid into a religion against his will. I want my son to choose for himself and not have to follow my beliefs. I think it's fine to raise your child in an environment that allows him/her to learn your beliefs, but forcing them on a child often results in rebellion in later years. That's why I felt the witches were wrong in doing that to Osha. Just my thoughts on it though. I know every parent views it differently.
@MFSHARTY
@MFSHARTY Ай бұрын
I’ll have to give a watch later, but what happened to the Maul looking witch? Clearly she didn’t just die! Did she join with Osha, or Mae?? I doubt she’s dead.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
ikr? I think she just did an "imma head out" and took off, which is really interesting. We better dern will get an answer to where she went, 'cause I'm betting she's still alive
@MFSHARTY
@MFSHARTY Ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4Uokay so I’ve been thinking. Perhaps she got the witches out after the Jedi left, assuming the witches were unconscious, and created another pair of force sensitive twins, then soul merged with a child Quimir. That’s why Sol says “I sense something familir…” while fighting him, which is actually Mother Korral!!! ….. yeah I don’t know🤣😭 either way, I don’t think we’re going to find out, and we’ll just have to wait for a season 2 unfortunately 💔 Not too unfortunate though because I really did love this show!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Cool theories...I do hope we get some answers in the finale, but if not, then hopefully in season 2!
@annalivia1308
@annalivia1308 Ай бұрын
Interesting. Both Sol and Quimir are looking for an apprentice/acolyte.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, isn't that indeed very interesting. In a way, Sol and Qimir are a yin and yang themselves.
@annalivia1308
@annalivia1308 Ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U The Jedi masked himself in regards to Osha (i.e. told her a big fat lie) and the "Sith" showed himself without any mask whatsoever (if you get my meaning), even saying he made a mistake when he masked himself in regards to Mae. Interesting indeed.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great commentary!
@clydeviegas
@clydeviegas Ай бұрын
Best analysis of the Acolyte I've seen on YT! 👏
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate you watching the vid and sharing the positive feedback. I'm just loving the mulit-layered mystery of the show as well as the way that our perspectives of the characters and their decisions change as we learn more and more info about what happened. Hoping the finale sticks the landing!
@TIGER-xk4gk
@TIGER-xk4gk Ай бұрын
I thought is was cool to see a different perspective from the Jedi point of view but I was disappointed with Qimir not showing up and were left to still wonder what his role is in all of this
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, I was definitely bummed about Qimir not showing up. Hope we get lots of info about him in the finale!
@Supermonistic
@Supermonistic Ай бұрын
I think I’m in the minority opinion in that I think this entire situation is purely and primarily the Jedi’s fault. 1. First and foremost the Jedi are officially emissaries of the republic. Their behavior is perceived as government policy. They have a duty to act responsibly and with respect to their duty and to the status they hold 2. We have no clue what the ascension actually means and for that matter neither did the Jedi. Sol took the little information he had from spying and concluded the girls were in danger. Then he and the padawan proceeded to rashly and impulsively invade the coven to abduct the girls by force. 3. Every single Jedi involved in the situation should’ve been at the very least removed from the order and potentially given jail time. Sol outright killed a civilian from a misunderstanding and seemingly let Mae fall to her (presumed) death, Torbin impulsively stormed the castle to abduct the two children, Indira in my opinion did indeed kill the coven via mental influence from Kelnacca, Kelnacca and the others all decided to keep secret the fact that they basically killed an entire town. A town that was essentially just defending itself from 4 powerful Jedi 4. The direct instructions of the order were specifically not to interfere because they didn’t have all the information about what was going on and the Jedi on this mission seemed predisposed to view alternative users of the force as “strange” and “dangerous”. Indara herself calls them strange and Torbin also remarks on this. The coven also remark on the Jedi believing themselves to have a monopoly on the force I think narratively this episode and this entire series is showcasing a darker side of the Jedi order that eventually lead to their downfall… their egos that they are always right
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Excellent commentary! Yeah, I agree. I blame the Jedi more than I blame the witches. I think everything you said was accurate and I agree with it all. I just feel that Aniseya inadvertently caused major issues by placing that spell on Torbin. By doing that, I believe that made him act irrationally and run to the fortress because of the lingering effects of what she did. And I think that Koril played a big role in the demise of the witches by amping up Mae to make her stop Osha from leaving which resulted in the fire destroying their fortress. And also Koril was the one that made Kelnacca attack which then forced Indara to break the witches spell. I think it’s also important to note that had the Jedi not disrupted the ascension ceremony, then Osha would’ve been forced into that ceremony against her will. So in a way, the title “choices” was indicating that everyone made poor choices, and that all of those poor choices dovetailed into the disastrous situation. I do think it’s fair, however, to take your position that ultimately the Jedi were the biggest instigators and none of this would’ve happened , if not for their actions. That’s why I really love the way this episode was written because it makes you rethink everyone’s actions.
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
I share your sentiment well articulated
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
​​@@AbitofEverything4Unah you can't justify the Jedi actions even if the girls were in a ceremony against their will that's still no grounds for a third party to interfere Every single one of our parents in this world forced us to do things we didn't wanna do when we were kids that doesn't mean it's bad a lot of the times kids don't know what's best for them We also can't prove her mind control had any lingering effects beyond the time she controlled Torbin
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
​@@ashleybanks-wm4cg I guess I disagree that someone can't intervene if parents are being abusive to their child. All the Jedi initially did is stop the ceremony which allowed Osha to make her own choice. Unfortunately the Jedi then made horrible decisions from that point on, but I think it's fine for someone to put a stop to something if a parent is acting out of line. As a father, I would have no issue with someone calling into question my actions if I was accidentally hurting my child and didn't realize it. We all need people to help us see our blind spots and the witches were blind to the fact that Osha, if given a chance, wanted a different life for herself.
@TWD77710
@TWD77710 Ай бұрын
As for your questions at the end of the video i feel like u can answer two more already, the jedi killing without a weapon is simply to test if the acolyte is worthy enough to become a sith apprentice, measuring their technical and mental prowess as well as their poeer when the odds stack against them. Secondly the queetion about how Mae and Osha were made is easy, thru witch magick and the power of a vergence in the force which not only allowed them to influence Midi-Chlorians (like Darth Plagueis also did) but also allowed them to use mind melding to split a consciousness into two. As for their ourpose is was obviously to allow Aniseya to mind meld into both twins and continue the leadership of the coven in younger bodies without their own thoughts (the "sacrifice" in question)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Good suggestions for the answers to those questions. If we don't get any more info in episode 8 on those items, then I'm gonna go with those answers you suggested as they make alot of sense. Thanks for sharing your theories!
@TWD77710
@TWD77710 Ай бұрын
@AbitofEverything4U thanks man I would love a shout out on any of your videos lmao ima subscriber and comment on alit of your videos
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@christianbeach8975
@christianbeach8975 Ай бұрын
Master inDara was worried about 50 women and what they could do she was also worried why 50 women had only two children sol uses this to convince her
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
How interesting...your impressions may be more accurate than mine. I just felt Indara was trying to de-escalate the situation and was saying it in a semi-dismissive fashion (i.e. how can they really be a threat) but I do agree that Sol turned around and used it to convince her that that many witches in and of itself was a threat. Thanks for sharing your take on it. I love to hear how people view things differently as it gives me even more to consider about the episode. Many thanks!
@christianbeach8975
@christianbeach8975 Ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4UII don't blame you for getting that first impression! inDara had been trying to de-escalate most of the episode up until that point imo. I'm also very glad we can have a respectful conversation lol not enough of this energy out there rn
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I'm so glad for the respectful discussion as well. Thanks so much!
@akaakaakaak5779
@akaakaakaak5779 Ай бұрын
Why did you take "100 years before the empire" as vague but "100 years after the hyperspace disaster" as absolute and literal?
@chickenphat730
@chickenphat730 Ай бұрын
Probably because if you combine it with what was said out of universe in interviews about it being a hundred years before the phantom menace. So there’s more evidence for this than a hundred before the empire. I see what you mean though, idk why they said that in the opening text.
@markdarc0448
@markdarc0448 Ай бұрын
“The empire” is very vague, whereas “the hyperspace disaster” is a very specific event
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
So, here's something you'll laugh at (can't believe I missed this)...but it's a dang flashback episode! So that means that the flashback is in 132 BBY, but the series in present day is 16 years later, so 116 BBY. So it does indeed seem to be 100 years before the fall of the empire around 19 BBY timeframe. I'll correct it in the next episode.
@chickenphat730
@chickenphat730 Ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U oh my gosh your right! I can’t believe I didn’t think of that either.
@Beaker709
@Beaker709 Ай бұрын
​@AbitofEverything4U The only exact dates we have are 232 BBY (Hyperspace Disaster) and 19 BBY (Fall of Republic). The only exact time duration given was 16 years. Assuming that "about 100" is between 95 and 104 years, the flashback occurs between 137 to 128 BBY and the setting of the show is between 123 to 114 BBY. Finally, eliminating combinations that don't add up to 19 BBY puts the flashbacks between 137 to 130 BBY and The Accolyte between 121 to 114 BBY. [Note: I am not nitpicking your calculations. For me it just was a puzzle to solve assuming my numbers are correct - which they may not be. It's funny that working this out was my only positive experience with The Acolyte.😊]
@Deep_Matter_Analysis
@Deep_Matter_Analysis Ай бұрын
My guy how is it that this is the witches fault when they’re the one whose being visited by uninvited guests and are threatening to take their little babies? Anisea entered Torbins brain to show the Jedi the power of the Thread and turned smoke at the end to go save OSHA from the fire.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Oh, I totally agree with you that the larger fault is with the Jedi. But I also feel that it was very wrong of Aniseya and Koril to be forcing Osha to take part in the ascension. If the Jedi had not arrived and disrupted the ceremony, then Osha would not have been allowed to make her own choice. Then, while I don't blame Aniseya for what she did to Torbin (it was a smart play, tbh), it just happened to backfire on her when it made Torbin obsessed with leaving and thus he acted irrationally. And I have to blame Koril 100% for pushing Mae to stop Osha, which ofc started the fire. But even with those mistakes by the witches, I still put the majority of the blame on the Jedi for their actions. To me, the episode showed how lots of small mistakes can all combine to make a tragic situation unfold. Overall, it was a great episode. Anyway, thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Truly appreciate it!
@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary Ай бұрын
I don’t agree with this man’s statement that osha was being forced into something at the end of the day these are her literal parents teaching her there way of life it wasn’t evil and it wasn’t bad she just wasn’t interested in it it’s the same when teaching children about religion It’s not something they particularly care about and most think it’s boring but when we teach them about it they learn and see a new way of thinking that’s literally what the coven was doing I don’t like how the insinuation that osha was being forced into something at the end of the day she was behaving like all children behave when They are being taught something that they don’t necessarily see the good in because it’s either boring or just not fun it’s the exact same as How Jedi Torbin feels he’s clearly tired of being a padawan and wants to go home as he states multiple times in this episode So I bet it’s your opinion that osha was being forced into something but just like the Jedi Sol BOTH OF YOU ARE AND WERE WRONG
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
lol you’re wrong tho… she said multiple times she wants to be a Jedi not a witch, so yes she was being forced to ascend against her will. What are you talking about……..
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
@MotherJanuary right it's just his opinion and the Jedi are in the wrong all the way the witches aren't at fault of anything besides being different from Jedi
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
​@@btipton115That's their child tho They can force their child to do something against their will Every single one of our parents forced us to do something against our will and a lot of time kids don't know what's best for them so you still aren't justifying the Jedis actions by any means
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg that is the least logical thinking I’ve ever heard but okay
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Excellent commentary. Let me totally agree with you that the Jedi made the biggest mistakes and I put the majority of the blame on them for everything that happened. So we 100% agree on that. But my commentary came from my place of being a father of a son that I dearly love. And because of that, I would never ask him to take part in anything that he didn't understand and was afraid to do. Osha said she didn't want to take part in the Ascension and was scared to death right before it was about to occur. I feel it was horribly wrong of the witches to put Osha through that ceremony without helping her feel more comfortable about it. A key part of parenting is to help your child understand what you are asking them to do and not to put them in a situation where they feel they are being forced to do something they have clearly expressed they are afraid to do. So I feel the witches were completely in the wrong with how they dealt with Osha. Sol correctly picked up on the fact that Osha did not want to do the ceremony and once Osha was given a chance to choose her own destiny, we find that she wanted to go with the Jedi instead. So the Jedi's initial actions actually freed Osha to be able to have her own say in things. And I credit Aniseya with seeing this and being willing to let Osha leave, once she was no longer forced to be part of the ascension. Had the Jedi not shown up, Osha would have been forced to do something that even her own mother later realized wasn't what Osha truly wanted. I hope that helps explain my reaction to the witches and how I felt they were being borderline abusive to poor Osha. A parent should never force something on their child like that, imo. I can only speak for myself and how I treat my son, but I felt they were completely in the wrong for making her be part of that ceremony and they should have instead respected Osha's pleadings to not have to do the ceremony.
@luna9astra105
@luna9astra105 Ай бұрын
Awesome analysis. You definitely brought up some points that didn’t occur to me when I was watching this episode. I really appreciate that the truth of what happened at Brendok was planned out (if not actually filmed) first, and we got glimpses of the truth along the way before the reveal (the scar on Torbin’s face, the symbol’s in Kelnacca’s hut, etc.). As opposed to the writers coming up with the mystery first and the deciding on the answers later. This definitely gives me the confidence that we will get satisfactory answers concerning Qimir. I also loved how there was no obvious good or bad guys at Brendok. It was just everyone making irrational and yet very “human” choices. No one was acting from a place of malice or desire to just do evil.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great feedback! I agree, I think the mystery was very constructed and I am indeed hopeful we'll get all our answers next episode. And you said it perfectly...everyone made mistakes at Brendok. It was a great example of how a situation can spiral out of control and yet no one is fully to blame!
@Stuckinmatrix5894
@Stuckinmatrix5894 Ай бұрын
Qestions answered. Subscribed, your thinking is deep.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the support of the channel! I truly appreciate it. Really enjoying doing deep dives into the series. Hoping we get an awesome finale in a few short days!
@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary Ай бұрын
Of course a man would think at the 14:28 mark that the conversation between Mother Aniseya and and the young boy Jedi Torbin was sexual It was not it was sensual yes but definitely not sexual a complete difference Men sometimes have a bad tendency at making everything they see or experience sexual 🙄🙄
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
Well straight men can be seduced… aniseya is hot.. but of course she was flirting.. flirting is sexual even if it doesn’t lead to sex
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. For me, there isn't much difference between sensual and sexual and talking to someone about having desires is inappropriate when you are talking to someone you don't know. So the scene made me very uncomfortable. But I respect that you had a different view of it. Thanks so much for sharing your perspective on it!
@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary Ай бұрын
People need to realize that the Coven was not evil and when you go from that viewpoint you realize that they were just a family trying to protect there children but also there way of life- They didn’t kill anyone they didn’t hurt anyone the only time they used there powers was always in defense never in trying to kill someone After Mother Aniseya was brutally murdered by Jedi Sol wrongfully that is when the Coven fighting still in defense but also in offense so that no other person would die- You can feel how you want to feel but Jedi Sol Jedi Torbin and the wooky Jedi we’re all in the wrong Carrie Anne moss was the only one who consistently tried to understand what was going on from a higher big picture view point But those Jedi after what they did should have all been stripped of there station and immediately removed from the Jedi order and the fact that they weren’t because they kept the secret for 16 yrs shows that they were corrupt and had fallen into darkness The witches were definitely innocent the Jedi came in like child protective services and instead of actually looking at the situation Sol just immediately said they were in danger all because he wanted a Padawan if you listen to Carrie Anne moss character She states and that’s why I have a Padawan and you don’t they made that scene jump out because they wanted the viewers to realize that Sol was jealous of not having a student to teach so much so that it clouded his judgment. Yes the witches lived differently but all three of the male Jedis were jumping to quick conclusions and making their own decisions At the end of the day aniyseya had made up her mind about letting osha go with the jedis there was no need for violence When she shouted out No it was her way of trying to stop the jedis and mother Koril from fighting and before that happened Sol yet again jumped to conclusions and killed her immediately making him the bad guy and darkening his spirit Everything after that moment was just a response to the jedis killing their leader but they never were in danger the ceremony wasn’t evil and neither were any of the witches They just did things differently
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
You’re wrong again… Korrin witch draws her weapon and then mother with turns into smoke with no explanation after we alll already know they can take over minds… plus Mae who hey thought was osha was turning into smoke… why should he not protect her and himself??
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
We all know because the show has stated it many times in this show.. don’t draw your weapon unless you’re ready to kill.
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
​​@@btipton115she's not wrong her perspective is the reality of what happens Anything else is an opinion and not fact
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
​@@btipton115he shouldn't protect her because THATS NOT HIS CHILD!!!!
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg okay so he should stand idly by and watch a kid potentially get murdered or even himself… that’s smart and along the lines these writers think I guess
@GalvatronStudios
@GalvatronStudios Ай бұрын
Where is Darth Plagueis y’all? I can’t wait another week!
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
If he doesn’t come back and kill everyone then this show missed the best plot ever
@GalvatronStudios
@GalvatronStudios Ай бұрын
@@btipton115I’ll take Darth Tenebrous if Plagueis isn’t the Sith master at this point in time. I just want more Sith Lords and if we don’t get either, I shall summon my lord and master Unicron to devour the Star Wars galaxy.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Preach it...we need a Tenebrous or Plagueis sighting for sure!
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
​@@GalvatronStudiosThere is no other masters Qimir is the Master and Osha is the acolyte Rule of two is still adhered to
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg Very plausible theory. We'll hopefully learn more in a few short days!
@BlackHedgehog
@BlackHedgehog Ай бұрын
I missed the whole Hyperspace Disaster thing, cool it connects to a novel thing. I also had no idea the Vergence thing was mentioned in TPM. Cortosis mining is an interesting theory my thoughts are that it's related to the Vergence somehow. I like your theory regarding Torbin, love it. I didn't consider Indara lying about telling the Council, wow. The Symbiont thing confuses me has that ever been brought up in lore before? I disagree I think she was being controlled because of how after she starts the fire she immediately begins to freak out and try to put it out almost like she wasn't in control of herself. I loved the entire fight scene this episode especially since we got ANGRY WOOKIE JEDI. Mind controlled but still. I still think there is something else to the fire but oh well. Initially I thought the witches were unalived but now I think they were unconscious, no way is Indara capable of that. Ooo, I didn't consider that regarding the symbols in Kelnacca's home. I would also say we know why the Jedi didn't know about the Sith. Indara's lie.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great comments as always. On Mae, I really do still feel she was controlled, just like you. I wonder if they will reveal that in the finale? And I didn't find any examples of Symbionts in the Star Wars lore, but I may have missed it. So it may be a new concept. Anyway, always love reading your feedback!
@maureec
@maureec Ай бұрын
Awesome content thanks brother! 😜👌I think mother Aniseya going smoke and taking Mae with her was just her trying to get her daughter safely out of harm's way since Torbin and mother Korril were about to throw down. It might have looked scary to Sol but there was no threat to Mae at all. Torbin and Sol were both hotheads and carrying their own biases but ultimately the Jedi were to blame as they essentially carried out a home invasion then killed women defending their home, family and children and pinned it on one of the children. You know the saying "you don't start nothing there won't be nothing "? Totally applies here LOL. ✌️😁#istilllovestarwars
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel so bad for Aniseya. She was just trying to protect Mae and Sol reacted out of fear when he attacked her. Definitely illustrated how the hubris of the Jedi will indeed lead to their eventual downfall during the prequel series.
@medianicko
@medianicko Ай бұрын
Love the references to other films so far! This whole show seem to be taking inspiration from Rashomon…love it!
@cameronpritchett8300
@cameronpritchett8300 Ай бұрын
😂 they took inspiration and did it awful and wrong
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, I really like how well they are tying the series into the other movies and shows as well as pulling in lots of info from the Legends material. And I agree, the Rashomon influence on the show is very cool!
@VisionFriend
@VisionFriend Ай бұрын
Did Koril enter Sol to make him into a Jekyll and Hyde-style Sith lord? Has he been Qimir's master this whole time in a Fight Club way?
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
Qimir is the master why do yall assume other characters there's no evidence of ? Qimir is the master Osha is the acolyte The rule of two is still adhered to
@VisionFriend
@VisionFriend Ай бұрын
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg An Acolyte is the student of an Apprentice.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Cool theory! Man, there are so many directions they can go with Sol and Qimir in the finale. Can't wait!
@camrenstuder6734
@camrenstuder6734 Ай бұрын
I bet koril is qimir’s master
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I think that's a great theory!
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
If Qimir was a triangle fan then why didn’t his planet have any triangles… feels like you’re reaching
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Very fair commentary. I could be absolutely wrong on about the triangles...but it was just so weird for him to make the triangle formation and also he seemed to have alot of knowledge of what happened on Brendok, so my theory was that he had a tie back to the witches. But I agree, it could indeed be a stretch.
@BillyLeigh
@BillyLeigh Ай бұрын
Few of your explanations felt "forced" to tie up some of the lose "thread"
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Very fair commentary. I agree, I wish the show had very clearly answered some of those open questions, however I'm guessing that we won't get any better answers for those questions. But I'm really hoping the remaining questions get very solid answers in the finale!
@calvinfisher5886
@calvinfisher5886 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your positive breakdowns
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
So glad to hear you like the positive breakdowns. I just feel that's more enjoyable than trying to tear things down. I'll mention if I feel something could have been handled better in an episode, but overall, I'm enjoying the show and so I hope that comes out in the reviews. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@DerekHaqq
@DerekHaqq Ай бұрын
Great vid! Did I imagine it or did Osha also fail the test. It looks like she named an incorrect object even after they asked her to tell the truth. Was it really a planet or a ship?
@persephone342
@persephone342 Ай бұрын
It was a planet
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, it was kinda blurry, but I do think it was a planet. But I agree, it was hard to tell.
@CobraShadowz
@CobraShadowz Ай бұрын
They did answer how Mae and Osha were created it was because of the vergence
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, I may have to consider that question answered, but tbh I wanted one last piece of that puzzle addressed. Aniseya said she "created" them. So did she tap into the vergence or was she perhaps lying and had nothing to do with it. That's the thing I really want to know. Because if Aniseya actually tapped into and controlled the vergence to create Osha and Mae, then that is very impressive and we need to know more about it.
@maxschro2929
@maxschro2929 Ай бұрын
Do you think the mask of momin could be involved here. If you look up force witches and the nihil... and force artifacts it all kind of lines up with my erlier question about Azlin Rell.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great theory...I really hope we do get ties to some of the deeper cut lore like that in the finale!
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
The Jedi actions were completely evil and cant be justified Indara told him to stop Torbin and as soon as he catches up with him he says "We have to get the twins" and they both agree Ignoring orders The Council told them not enegage and they still did Sol being a creeper and developing an emotional attachment to a young gurl he knows nothing about That's why Indara checked him like whoa buddy you're crossing the line when he says "I believe she's destined to be my Padawan" Like how dude you didn't develop an attachment or even speak to her He was desperate for a Padawan He kills the gurls mother Brainwashes her and then Indara lies to the council and blames the whole thing on a CHILD Indara commited Genocide Torbin was just acting emotionally you can't blame Aniseya for his irrational decisions The only Jedi who wasnt at fault was Kelnecca the Jedi were always the bad guys and this show shows you why They were acting like the Catholic church in the 1600s why were they even bothering the witches? Why do feel like its their job to protect kids that already have a family Then when Indara is talking to Aniseya she says "You cant deny Jedi the right to test your younglins"... With your permission of course she says after a long pause i believe that Indara used the Jedi Mind Trick to get Aniseya to comply because later we see Koril say i would have never let you test or take they children idk which one she said Aniseya didn't deserve her death Sol let's Mae fall to her death when he could have held both of them up and waited for help He definitely had enough force energy to do so This means that Sol intentionally tried to take out Mae Man the Jedi were straight evil in this episode and they did all deserve to d i e after what they did to these poor little gurls and their familes i sen people trying to justify the Jedi actions but none can be justified you cant defend the reprehensible things they perpetrated in this episode Kelnacca the only one you can forgive really You say Sol wasnt wrong he was wrong and selfish at evey turn You can't blame Aniseya for anything nor can anyone justify any of the Jedi actions with them jumping to conclusions and also inserting themselves where rhey dont belong
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I totally agree with you that the Jedi were in the wrong and were the worst offenders in the episode. Their actions were unacceptable and caused so much harm. They were indeed acting like colonizers, as you point out. But as a father, I also think what Aniseya and Koril were doing to Osha was abusive. She clearly didn't want to do the Ascension and I would never force my son to do something he was afraid to do without first making sure he understood it and wanted to do it. And the fact that eventually Aniseya was okay with letting Osha goes proves that the Ascension wasn't necessary and so the witches were indeed forcing Osha into a situation that was against her will. So that's why I also blame the witches for their actions. Really appreciate your awesome commentary. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on the episode!
@gamerzilla6113
@gamerzilla6113 Ай бұрын
I think that Yin and yang symbol represents Mae and Osha as they were originally one. And so they exist as contradictory opposites. As one is with dark side while other is with light side.
@mkhud50n
@mkhud50n Ай бұрын
Very close. They are yin and yang but yin is not the dark side and yang is not the light side. The dark side comes from outside of the symbol while the symbol itself is the light side. Common mistake. The witch yin and the Jedi yang balance each other.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Cool theory!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@mkhud50n Very interesting...okay, that makes alot of sense.
@markdarc0448
@markdarc0448 Ай бұрын
Super cool episode very well done how they answered a lot of the questions in an interesting way, and helped relieve my fears that they wouldn’t answer anything. I’m just worried we don’t get answers to the rest of the questions now. Especially the pretty big continuity issue with the phantom menace and Qimirs identity/master. Those two need to be answered badly imo
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
Answer the question of torbins guilt… ?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
100% agree on the concern...really, really, REALLY hoping the finale doesn't let us down.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
@@btipton115 I agree...the Torbin question was only partially answered, imo. But ig they gave us enough of an answer that I went ahead and called it resolved. Your skepticism is valid though.
@vishalstark8264
@vishalstark8264 Ай бұрын
I was flabbergasted when u just said " indara didn't tell the council about Brendok, witches, Twins" and " cortosis mining" awesome 💘💘, personally I was always suspicious on koril, I feel like Mother koril is a secret agent to night sisters and nigh Hill & qimir could be one of the nigh Hill, please correct me I feel nigh Hill guys are dark wizards like this witches.. and qimir could also be the first born to mother korill and that makes the twins his sisters. And mother korill in these 2 episodes(3,7) behaved like " if it wasn't for ur good side osha would have been born as dark side user from the start and even though she has light side, why u always enhance it via ur moral words, why not austersize OSHA" , next " u manipulated the threads but I conceived them and I can do whatever I need with those children ", korill also want to use these 8 yr old twins to over throw aniseya by killing her and making korill the leader of this witches, The hole these witches were praying before Ascension ceremony could be the same hole where Darth Plagues is residing and monitoring korill and others except aniseya, that's why in this place everyone looses shite of their minds 4 masters, witches , Mae etc. and I think korill survived with other witches and part of korill resides within mae mind - programmed and that's why in episode 5 or 6 ,we heard a female voice and that's korill... Mae survived near the bunta tree I guess plagues and night sister witches saved her because she is the prime one who could eliminate the entire jedi race... And a quick spoiler mother korill is playing Heather glenn in Daredevil S4, and his son is the villain of this show... Aka THE MUSE, Daredevil aint aware he has a kid!!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Great theories...I think you are correct on Koril. She sure seems like she's working with someone else and it may indeed be with the Night Sisters, Qimir or even the Nigh Hill. I think your other theories sound good as well (such as the hole the witches were standing over). I hope we get alot of the remaining answers in the finale. Fingers crossed. Thanks so much for taking the time to share all your thoughts. Loved reading it all!
@vishalstark8264
@vishalstark8264 Ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U anytimee
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
😁
@derekwebb7577
@derekwebb7577 Ай бұрын
Why did Torbin drink the poison in the earlier episode? What did he do that would cause him to want to end his own life? He literally did nothing to the witches, except get mind raped by mother witch number one. What unreasonable thing did any of the Jedi do to be considered the "bad guys"? Sol got super Harvey Weinstein creepy about Osha, but even when he stabbed the witch, it didn't seem unreasonable, she turned into a smoke demon and started moving towards him and who he thought was Osha. I'd have defended myself too. Indara killed the witches who possessed Kalnacca, but the writing and directing is so bad in the show that I couldn't tell if she did it on purpose, or if it was just what happens when you break the witches spell forcefully. So much for the power of many, right? lol. Also why does he have to tell Mae anything? She was right there when this situation went down. This show has serious issues with continuity, pacing, he handling of the passing of time, dialog, and especially character development and motivations. We are on the last episode and I can't with any honesty say that I am invested in any of the characters, least of all Mae/Osha. Amandala was great in Hunger Games, but she is stinking it up in this role. Maybe it's just the poor directing/writing, it's just hard to tell. I'm not someone who automatically hates everything Disney, but this is just all around a convoluted clusterf**k of a show whose biggest mystery is where did that 22 million dollars an episode get spent?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback on the episode. I agree, the writing has probably been my largest concern with the series. I do like the mystery, but the pacing has definitely been off at times. As for Torbin, I suspect he feels guilty for running back to the witch's coven, even though I feel it was in part due to Aniseya's spell. But I suspect he feels responsible for all of the deaths. As for Sol, he also acted irrationally at times and ultimately killed Aniseya when she was just trying to help Mae. However, as I mentioned in the vid, I again blame Aniseya somewhat, as she should have just told Sol her decision about Osha, instead of being confrontational. So the episode was fascinating to me as there really was no one who was completely responsible for their actions. Everyone acted improperly here and there, and collectively it created a terrible situation. I do hope that the final episode brings things together but I am abit worried. Fingers crossed the series ends on a good note. Thanks again for all your commentary. Truly appreciate it!
@evanpowers7143
@evanpowers7143 Ай бұрын
At First When I Saw The Brave New World Teaser I Thought it Was A Fake Trailer But Then (excited Mcu Fan Noises) Marvel Fans Are Eating Good! 4 Deadpool and Wolverine Trailers, Agatha Teaser Trailer AND The Brave New World Trailer And Finally Deadpool And Wolverine!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's amazing how much awesome Marvel content we've been getting lately. Love it!
@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary Ай бұрын
This man that runs this channel A BIT OF EVERYTHING IS WRONG he’s doing the same thing that Jedi Sol and padawan Torbin did now I don’t know if it’s because there all men but they all have a bad tendency to MANSPLAIN from the very beginning of the episode we clearly see and hear Padawan Torbin saying he wants to go home he’s upset he’s bored he’s tired of being here on this planet and doing the things that they are doing He said we’ve been here for 7 weeks that’s almost 2 months and it’s clear that Torbin is only like 15-16 yrs of age but again it’s clear he WANTS TO GO HOME So for you to say that Mother Aniseya made him obsessed with wanting to go home after she gained control of his mind I’d say that’s a big assumption and your doing the exact same thing that Sol did jumping to conclusions making assumptions and being wrong At the end of the day Mother Aniseya and Mother Koril are osha and Mae’s real parents they are not strangers they have not kidnapped the children and raised them in a forced way these are there children So for you to go along with what Sol said thinking the girls were not safe he didn’t even know them so him automatically assuming they were in danger was wrong on his part and yours for agreeing with him No one at that fortress would let the girls be hurt and if they were we know for a fact that there mothers would stop them period We saw mae go through the ascension and she was fine she was still herself she wasn’t controlled or manipulated or brainwashed she was still the same girl the only difference is that her connection to the power was stronger that’s it She was never in any danger and this false narrative that sol and the guy running this channel keep trying to perpetuate is not true They girls were never in any danger and Sol used that excuse to do what he wanted Which was to gain a padawan and that’s what he did he murdered mother Aniseya and he brought all of the Jedi there down he made them fall into darkness because he was selfish he was aggressive he was hostile and he was evil him killing there mother and then Telling osha that mae started to the fire which we know she did on accident but Sol never knew that he just made it up on his part and lying
@btipton115
@btipton115 Ай бұрын
He did know because she ran in there screaming fire.. he could have easily read her mind
@Dlo-Xpo
@Dlo-Xpo Ай бұрын
i appreciate the in depth ideas you layed out in your comment. i would only comment to your ideas that the Author of this channel did a breakdown of the episode from the perspective of the characters in the show. i did not get the impression that the Author of this channel agreed with the CHOICES made by the characters. Only broke down his reasoning behind each point he made in this video breakdown based on his opinion. like most channels attempt to do with their breakdown videos of content. Great job on your view point and on his breakdown. woohoo
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
​@@Dlo-Xponah Brody isn't being honest with what's on the screen and adding things that weren't shown just like the Jedi jumping to conclusions thats why this lady multiple comments are needed it's like he's not getting it
@johnmiwa6256
@johnmiwa6256 Ай бұрын
Well, they took the time in two episodes to show Aniseya taking control of Torbin's mind. Why include that in the episode since we already knew that he did not want to be on that planet. Sol was stupid in this episode. Even Grace Randolph conceded that this episode ruined him as a character.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Excellent commentary. Let me totally agree with you that the Jedi made the biggest mistakes and I put the majority of the blame on them for everything that happened. So we 100% agree on that. But my commentary came from my place of being a father of a son that I dearly love. And because of that, I would never ask him to take part in anything that he didn't understand and was afraid to do. Osha said she didn't want to take part in the Ascension and was scared to death right before it was about to occur. I feel it was horribly wrong of the witches to put Osha through that ceremony without helping her feel more comfortable about it. A key part of parenting is to help your child understand what you are asking them to do and not to put them in a situation where they feel they are being forced to do something they have clearly expressed they are afraid to do. So I feel the witches were completely in the wrong with how they dealt with Osha. Sol correctly picked up on the fact that Osha did not want to do the ceremony and once Osha was given a chance to choose her own destiny, we find that she wanted to go with the Jedi instead. So the Jedi's initial actions actually freed Osha to be able to have her own say in things. And I credit Aniseya with seeing this and being willing to let Osha leave, once she was no longer forced to be part of the ascension. Had the Jedi not shown up, Osha would have been forced to do something that even her own mother later realized wasn't what Osha truly wanted. I hope that helps explain my reaction to the witches and how I felt they were being borderline abusive to poor Osha. A parent should never force something on their child like that, imo. I can only speak for myself and how I treat my son, but I felt they were completely in the wrong for making her be part of that ceremony and they should have instead respected Osha's pleadings to not have to do the ceremony.
@Peiguypad
@Peiguypad Ай бұрын
You are doing a lot of legwork for this show. You assume a lot of things that are not said or shown.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yeah, I think that's very possible. I do wonder if we as fans put more effort into understanding a show than the writers themselves. That said, the show runner also worked on Russian Doll, which was a complex mystery show. So it seems every line has relevance and should be looked at deeply. Anyway, good feedback on the breakdowns. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
@Peiguypad
@Peiguypad Ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I had the time. I appreciate your video.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@armanirons6300
@armanirons6300 Ай бұрын
Thank you for a review that is trashing the show🙏🏽. I am a Gemini and if u think about it 1 wants to go as the other wants to stay it’s to many clues that they are 1 person Lots to say but good no excellent review. 👍🏾
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
That’s a really good point about Osha and Mae being kind of like a Gemini. Thank you so much for your positive feedback on the video. I’m really enjoying the show and can’t wait to see how it finishes up next week!
@blackbeardoftheqar
@blackbeardoftheqar Ай бұрын
Wow have you ever even seen star wars before?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Yes indeed...I've watched it from the early days in fact. But if there's something I got wrong, just let me know. I truly do want feedback, whether it be positive or negative. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@MCLegoboy
@MCLegoboy Ай бұрын
I don't know, even in a show that's supposedly trying to show the Jedi in a bad light, and while they made mistakes, I really don't see how the Jedi did anything wrong for the most part. No, they should not have broken in, no, Sol should not have acted so hastily, but when you look at what's happening with the Witches, who are clearly using the Dark Side, something the Jedi reject and combat against, and they are also actively antagonizing the Jedi, it's hard for me to root against them in this scenario. Why the Jedi feel the need to cover up all that happened here is the only thing that feels wrong because I don't see them as having really done anything outright bad. Good intentions with a few poor choices, yes, but at some point the Jedi and the Witches were going to come in contact with one another on Brendok, and it likely would have resulted in conflict because of how hostile Koril was, and the other memebers of the Coven ultimately taking her side over Aniseya's, regardless of if Aniseya was dead. I'm much more interested in why Osha felt the need to leave the Jedi (How much did she fail before finally quitting?), how Mae and Qimir met, and how Qimir fits into all of this with how much he knows of what happened on Brendok, and how much he seems to know about Sol on a personal level. I doubt Koril could have physically transformed herself into looking like Qimir and has been masquerading this whole time, but I suppose it's possible, but even Koril feels too steadfast as a Witch to then join the Sith. Maybe she's part of this elaborate ruse, but I don't know. Episode 7 may have excited some people but it's officially made me underwhelmed by the series overall and very much concerned for how this story gets wrapped up in episode 8 since we have been told it will be a complete story. There's definitely still going to be some lingering questions that could be extrapolated on further if the show is picked up for more, but with what is left, it's not like it's small stuff that could then be revealed to be a much bigger deal than we first thought, something too substantial feels like it's going to be left unresolved.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Fantastic insight as always. I do think that the Jedi made some big mistakes (Sol striking out at Aniseya was understandable, but was still murder at the end of the day). But I'm with you that alot of blame has to be placed on the witches. You don't run and hide in a fortress on a remote planet unless you are doing something bad. They tampered with the force vergence to create life (not good) and then wanted to force Osha to join the ascension when she wanted nothing to do with it (abusive parenting) and were aggressive against the Jedi (especially Koril). So there's lots of blame to go around. And yeah, I'm concerned things won't get wrapped up in the final episode. That said, all the key players will likely converge. Sol, Qimir, Osha, Mae and Vernestra all seem headed towards a confrontation, so I hope our remaining questions get answered. Fingers crossed!
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
The Jedis did straight up EVIL Sol kidnapped a young girl killed her parents and then brainwashed her that her family was the bad guys and you don't think that's wrong???? Wow he also stalked the in the beginning Also where are you getting it that they were using the dark side that wasn't mentioned at all they did say it was raw force energy tho you're just assuming it's dark side energy Also you still haven't given a logical reason for why the Jedi feel the need to police these ladies and impose on their culture The Jedis presence wasn't needed at all Tell me how you can Justify the Jedis even interfering with the witches in the first place it had nothing to do with their mission Wdym picked up for more? There's already a budget for season 2 and Id be surprised if they haven't already shot it yet
@ashleybanks-wm4cg
@ashleybanks-wm4cg Ай бұрын
​@@AbitofEverything4Uno none of the blame can be placed on the witches All your reasons are anecdotal at best there is no evidence of wrongdoing on their part youre just jumping to conclusions just like Sol evil self
@MCLegoboy
@MCLegoboy Ай бұрын
​@@ashleybanks-wm4cg According to Jedi records, Brendok is supposed to be uninhabited. Sol was curious and was likely going to make his presence known, but when Koril showed up and how agitated she was, it was better to hide back. While he does not know that the Witches know of the Jedi presence, it was his job to examine what's going on with this planet, and he was ordered to covertly check in on the situation involving the planets' inhabitants and if it would have any correlation behind why the planet is full of life after the Great Disaster. His biggest flaw was his interpretation of the situation and while wanting to help Osha is not wrong, he was a bit self righteous in how he wanted to go about it. Osha was also not kindapped, it was Osha's choice to leave the Coven, Aniseya even gave her blessing of the decision, but was unable to convey the message before tensions escalated, but she does still get that message to Sol with her dying breath. In a recent interview with Nerdist, Leslye Headland even suggested that Aniseya and Mae beginning to turn to mist was potentially a way of transforming into the Force, and not merely transporting out of there. Is it right for her to kill her own child, even if that means becoming one with the Force? While Sol is in the wrong, he truly does not know what is happening, it looks nefarious, he mistook Mae for Osha, and he reacted with what he thought was best in order to keep this child safe. Noble intentions, just a bad situation. And like what was stated in the video and in the episode itself, Sol does not have the full story, he believes that from what Mae told him, that Mae and Osha were going to be sacrificed, something even the Jedi could not condone despite it being someone's cultural beliefs, particularly for a sentient being to be sacrificed. I cite the way Mace Windu reacts when everyone wants to kill the Zillo Beast during the Clone Wars. Although Mae is the more agressive of the twins, and even though Sol thought it was Osha, the twins would still be seen as innocents because of their age, and they were not the instigators of the situation. As for what kind of practices the Witches use, if it's Light or Dark or a combination of both, it does not look or feel very good. Just because Mother Aniseya is considered benevolent behind the scenes and is shown to be a very loving mother to the Twins, that does not mean her practices are good. From what we've heard so far about the Twins' creation, it was through sheer will on the parts of Aniseya and possibly Koril. Imparting one's will and using the Force to do something for yourself, no matter how good it may seem still stems primarily from the Dark Side. The Dark Side is always about selfishness. There is no natural way that these two women could have procreated, it's a biological fact, and unlike say Force Healing where one is gifting a part of their own life to heal another, the creation of these children short of cloning probably requires much more effort and will power. And Koril is also concerned that if the Jedi found out about the Twins' creation, it would lead to the Coven's destruction, suggesting that it is definitely more sinister than just some kind of surrogacy of Aniseya's DNA being carried to term in Koril. Seeing that the Midichlorian levels are identical in both Mae and Osha also suggests tampering, Aniseya imparting her own will on beings that have no say in the matter. Aniseya also possesses Torbin, leading him to become more and more obsessed with going home to Coruscant, making him act irrational and later jumping to the conclusion that the Jedi Council needs to see the twins in person. Yes, the Jedi should have never interfered with the ceremony by breaking into the fortress, and I think that Indara by herself would have had more success on her own because it would appear less hostile being another woman amongst a society of them would have likely left everyone more at ease, but it's also hard to argue about strength in numbers, Indara really does not know what she's getting herself into, and they could have easily just killed her because she was by herself, we don't know what would have happened. Bringing Torbin was a mistake, but his weakness was exploited by Aniseya. When the Jedi perform a Mind Trick, it can be used for nefarious purposes, but from what we usually see, it's never to impart harm on the recipient. It's never "You want to jump off this ledge," or "Put the blaster to your head," it's "You want to go home and rethink your life," and "You don't need to see his identification." And in that final example, Obi-Wan and Luke are on a greater mission to help someone in need and the greater Galaxy from under the tyranny of the Empire. While Aniseya and the Coven do have a right to their privacy, instead of insisting that everyone leave, she digs into Torbin's mind, even knows about his family, which is likely something even he does not know, or if he has any memory of them, they're deep memories from when he was a baby and would not remember. She is imparting her will on him, she is manipulating his mind, but it is also far more nefarious than anything than a Jedi likely would with a standard Mind Trick. And Torbin is also a Jedi Padawan, he is likely not weak minded, so while it may have looked effortless, Aniseya had to really dig in to take over his mind. I'm not saying that a Jedi Mind Trick and what Aniseya does are exactly the same, but it's the closest equivalent I can think of. And then the whole Coven takes over Kelnacca the next day. If that's not Dark Side, I don't know what is. If there is really any true blame to be levied toward the Jedi, it's Sol because he became too emotionally invloved, clouding his judgement, striving to be self righteous, but the actions of the Coven also bring reason for concern for the other Jedi. The Coven even asks for Mae and Osha to lie during the testing process, that was given approval by Aniseya, suggesting that there's probably more going on beyond just keeping the family together. It's already noted that the children are likely too old to be considered for Jedi training, they would have been given a choice to leave or stay, but then everything falls to pieces. If the Coven is truly wanting to hide away on this vacant planet, then why train for enemies to attack? Are they planning to go out and fight? Are they hoping to eventually grow their numbers and then go out into the Galaxy? It is concerning. Is it okay to have people that think it's okay to possess people and impart their will on others running around in the Galaxy? While the Jedi could conceivably do the same, they actively don't. It's like Superman. He could technically take over with no problem whatsoever, but his moral compass is such that he only uses his power for the protection of Earth. The Coven has run to Brendok because the Galaxy does not like people like them, folks that practice witchcraft and likely use it for their own benefit, not the benefit of greater good, which is one of the goals of the Jedi. It's not some simple misunderstanding or bigotry or else the Galaxy would also hate the Jedi at this point in time simply because they have supernatural abilities. These Witches, however much they may be minding their own business, and treating their young with kindness also have a history and act in ways that give reason for concern.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
​@@ashleybanks-wm4cg For me, the evidence of the witches wrong doing is the fact that once the Jedi interrupted the ceremony, we learn that Osha really didn't want to do the Ascension and instead wanted to leave and be a Jedi. And Aniseya to her credit realized that and was willing to let her leave. So the fact that the witches were forcing her to take part in the Ascension is, imo, their biggest error.
@MAXXWORX
@MAXXWORX Ай бұрын
I think you put to much thought behind everything to explain the crap that was written and incompetently put to screen. Partly i agree, but on other stuff it is giving those idiots making the show to much credit or intelligence. Also, the scenes between Osha and Mae are bullshit, because Sol cannot tell the story of events he did not witness. I hate when flashbacks are made this way. Sure you could say find ways to explain it, but then they should have put a voiceover like "after i spoke with Osha, she told me this and that" but it is irrelevant because she already knows what happened between the girls, she was there... Headland has shown in her latest interview that she doesn't give a crap about details, except looks. The vines on the stones of the hole are just vines, not metal, it looked green. Yes, Zabrak Mom should be gone. The mist-move is not taking over somebody. One could explain it, she probably used that move to suddenly appear behind a tree to get the twins back inside while Sol was watching. I don't understand why people get so excited for those lightsaber fights... but okay. All speculations... don't really matter, not a fan of speculations, it won't be what headland will make what happened. I don't have an opionion what REALLY REALLY is the answer, just stupid stuff like "oh it is trinity, she pulled the plug, so the bitches died like when you pull the plug in Matrix." Yes, could be passed out and died of the fumes from the fire colemonoxid poising (could be named different in english, don't know) or the explosion of the whole thing. I like the mental issues that probably happened to the wookie after the takeover, that he is now obsessed with the symbols from the witches that may have been left over... or maybe conciousnesses from witches survived and he is now never really alone... that could be a story... Here as well, it doesn't matter how heavy the damn bridge is, holding the bridge or the girls doesn't matter weightwise... you just need to concentrate enough. Size doesn't matter in this case... but nobody listens to yoda anymore... and since this is fan Fucksion Disney wars, it is complete bullshit now. The reason why he did not use the force in episode 3 is, the writers of that episode know nothing about the force or star wars. The scratches on the face make no sense if the wookie did that... I doubt you get the answer to how mae was saved unless Zabrak Mom appears and tells her "i saved you from that fall and rematerialized at your favourite tree..." or She says that she did the mist move herself... but what i would like better is, that not-sith-boy was there the whole time, manipulating everybody, from the shadows, saving Mae from the fall and showing her what could be possible. But 16 years and she is not really able to be formidable in her vengeance is even for a sith pathetic. So she did not train much, she has no real big force powers... at least not what i expect from "over the charts, even yoda has less points that these two"... fuck that midichlorean meassurements... they are no damn pokemon cards... If she is so powerfull and learned 15 years under that sithboy, she should have crush melancholy Trinity in seconds, same as sithboy did with the 8 disney jedi. This show could have much potential to be a good show, but the way it is presented "it is a murder mystery, and the killer is the the main character" wow...what a mystery. "The show is to destroy the jedi" um... they failed. "The show is about the Sith" ... no... no real sith story to see here. And what i hate the most is the size of the lightsabers... they are no neontubes for fuck sake... They are precise and elegant. Now they are glowing baseball bats... Rebels did it right.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on the episode. While I am enjoying the series, I do totally respect that you bring up valid issues and concerns and I hope Disney is listening and applies them in future shows. Hopefully things come together in the finale. Fingers crossed!
@juliandarch9278
@juliandarch9278 Ай бұрын
Give me one answer
@juliandarch9278
@juliandarch9278 Ай бұрын
The wookie was looking for a plot? Its about all i can thinl of. Tattoime sholud be green not a desert
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
lol...yeah, perhaps that's what Kelnacca was looking for. Mystery solved!
@juliandarch9278
@juliandarch9278 Ай бұрын
7 weeks an apprentice sits there, what was he doing all this time of no one has the decency to tell him? No wonder he wanted to go home he must have been bored as shit
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
I agree...Torbin was most definitely bored out of his mind.
@TheeKrix
@TheeKrix Ай бұрын
The only mistake was putting this awful show on TV
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you aren’t enjoying the show. I’m liking it myself, but I can definitely understand how it’s not for everyone. Really appreciate you watching the video and leaving your feedback. Thanks so much!
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