Looks Like Someone Might Have Leaked New Sram Red AXS 2024

[@GCPerformance18]

This is what looks to be big news in the cycling industry today, someone ahs leaked what looks to be new sram red photos. we will have to see later on if this is indeed the new sram red or are these just fake images..... let me know what you think

[@MasteringGrappling]

It makes sense that this is the new SRAM Red. Lighter, more buttons, smaller hoods.

[@charlesblithfield6182]

That’s a good observation that it looks dremmeled out custom and “boutique”. It’s smart of them from a marketing perspective plus it just looks really light weight.

[@GCPerformance18]

Yea I think the same

[@SystemParanoia]

It will make me faster as my wallet will be lighter.. 😅

[@LTBlightthebeam]

Not even remotely interested due to the astronomical prices. 10/11 speed is where the value is.

[@Necromonger69]

​​​@@LTBlightthebeamBe careful he might put out another video of why they're expensive. 😂

[@LTBlightthebeam]

@@Necromonger69 The fun of cycling tech used to be that the bleeding edge of tech was attainable by a significant number of hobbyists. Now the bleeding edge feels way out of reach.

[@Necromonger69]

@LTBlightthebeam You don't have to tell me brother. You're preaching to the choir. I'm a cyclist, I know.

[@JFomo]

It will make me faster because I wont have money for food hence weight loss 💪

[@M3GRSD]

I'm actually more interested in the Front derailleur. I can't even count how many times I've had chain drop because few bikes I've been to can properly set it. I will buy the new front mech if it's compatible with old Red AXS, and it makes front shifting better.

[@GCPerformance18]

Yea I am suprised we have not seen it yet but I am sure that’s what people are waiting to see

[@JFomo]

As someone who always rides on the hoods, I personally like the "old/current" Sram hoods as it makes me feel safer while bombing down a hill as it I know my hands aren't going to slip over the hoods (not that that is a problem with normal hoods).

[@apv1]

Bombing down a descent on the hoods?? 🤔

[@jamiehiggins1462]

I think it depends on how large your hands are. I have small hands and like the smaller hoods.

[@jamiehiggins1462]

​@apv1 I use the hoods as well. I have small hands and the lever reach is really too long. Plus I find it more difficult break.

[@MasteringGrappling]

I like the old force hoods that I currently have. I also have the new rival with smaller hoods so I know the difference. I don’t think you can just keep shrinking hoods. There needs to be a balance between ergonomics and gripping security.

[@JFomo]

@@apv1 lol yeah, I know most ppl do it on the drops but I like it on the hoods 😅. I started doing it last year after I tilted the hoods in. It made total sense why the hoods were so big.

[@MasteringGrappling]

I made a post on my bike as to SRAM should add extra buttons to their levers. Love the use of extra buttons. I am running blips on the inside of my levers now on my Rival and Force bikes and it’s been a game changer for me. Changing gears from the tops of the levers changes the riding experience. Im happy SRAM had the same idea.

[@M3GRSD]

I'd rather use the buttons to navigate my Garmin pages, but I don't think buttons on the tops of the shifter will gain that functionality, because even with wireless blimps, there's no Garmin/SRAM AXS compatibility.

[@MasteringGrappling]

I would rather use those buttons to shift than for the bike computer access. I would use the option to shift far more than the option for computer navigation.

[@M3GRSD]

@@MasteringGrappling I can already shift though, even in the drops. I can't manipulate the computer with thick cycling gloves though. Why can Di2 do this and AXS can't? It makes no sense.

[@yurekkowski339]

I live in China ,I bought WheelTop EDS TX 7-13 speed group set , 13 speed cassette Sunshine and 13 speed chain SUMC 13 and have my S-Works sl7 13 speed. Best Regards

[@pedaling.z]

how did you manage to get? taobao and their own website states out of stock. have been meaning to try on my spare bike but bought 105s instead

[@87togabito]

Cool story bro.

[@yurekkowski339]

@@pedaling.z I know can not buy EDS TX out of China mamby after February but this i for me best set I was use SRAM etap next SRAM sorce and this is shit i was all the time problem with SRAM in EDS TX you can do adjustment for every cog not for one for cassette how do in Shimano Di2 or SRAM asx Im not Chinese I was live 20 years in USA but now 6 years I live in China who want buy the EDS TX I can help him. best regards.

[@yurekkowski339]

@@pedaling.z I live in China and you can buy EDS TX in Taobao now mayby cant buy out of China but who wont the new set I can help hin.

[@nemeanf27]

I hope sram have improved the pogo connection pins on their derailleurs. Out of the blue the pogo spring broke on mine and wouldn't complete the circuit to the battery rendering the derailleur useless. However I bodged it by completing the circuit with a small piece of aluminum foil between the derailleur pin and battery

[@czeckson74]

Isn´t Red 2x11 the lightest groupset ? 1778g While 2x10 Red is 1953g

[@GCPerformance18]

I don’t know. I just remember the mechincal double tap was my go to for light builds back in the day

[@Xhadp]

Love the sleeker shifter, that was the main thing that stuck out like a sore thumb to me of current offerings.

[@GCPerformance18]

Yes I think this looks way better I’m excited to see how it looks in person

[@auricschiller]

I wonder if those extra buttons are a FD toggle so the regular paddle shifters can be fast like the 1x configs.

[@mlee6050]

I hope so, I hate 1x though I hope the extra buttons is toggle computer unit thing

[@auricschiller]

@@mlee6050 Could be either or both, configurable in AXS app.

[@huwsalway4099]

Looks like 1990’s Campagnolo original ergopower

[@BrianMcDonald]

I still have SRAM Mechanical Red 10 speed and it is really nice to ride. I want to eventually do a build with it with a new bike to replace my 2012 Roubaix after I finish my Supersix evo hi mod with 1x red axs xplr build

[@GCPerformance18]

Hell yeaaaaa Brian

[@EddyCat1234]

It has no hope of being better than Dura Ace if they don’t improve the FD

[@GCPerformance18]

I have a feeling they have something in place to make it work

[@l.d.t.6327]

The shifter ergnomics don't look very promising with the inclination point of the lever very high up, combined with a brake lever that is curved the wrong way. Braking from the hoods seems to be ergonomically flawed.

[@BrianFaure]

Type of fluid in bicycles does not really make a different feel. The real difference between DOT or not is heat resistance vs water resistance. Shimano as you know have finally adjusted their pull on brakes which might be getting closer to Sram feel....IMHO or course lol....oh Enhance! Enhance! hahhaa

[@FOREST10PL]

Yeah, I was baffled at what he was saying in the video. Different feel comes directly from linear vs non-linear behavior of the master cylinder.

[@williwacker2774]

I hope they'll finally ditch that horrible DOT stuff, unlikely though.

[@rafaelsoldatti]

I came to believe that this new Red would come with a UDH system... But I believe that Sram will leave it to the next generation. Beautiful group!

[@bebopman5]

Yeah, I think they're waiting on the next rollout of flagship road bikes from the top companies to have UDHs. Once that occurs, then, as you said, Sram road transmissions won't be too far behind. Honestly, it may just be a new rear derailleur rollout when that happens, and they'll update the other groups (maybe minus Apex) to match the shape and ergo of this new Red. I'm excited.

[@diehardbikes]

If they did that it wouldn't be compatible with the vast majority of road frames. What they did with Transmission with mountain bikes is they slowly got the majority of them to use UDH or a similar product so that they could use a new road rear derailleur.

[@BrianMcDonald]

I was hoping for a UDH direct mount derailleur but the adoption rate is just not there on the road side it seems :(

[@MtKrybnik13]

@@bebopman5 they might just make two versions of it, cause adaptation od UDH is really low in road bikes. After I've got my new XC bike with XX SL I was wondering if they are working on road version, and it will not make it much heavier. Cause when you get used to how new T-type mechs are stiff, Red starts to feel fragile ;)

[@123oner2]

They're looking more like the Shimano hoods. Why it's taken the bike industry soooo long to have lower, more ergonomic hoods just baffles me. I put my hands on the Ultegra set (having been riding 20yr old groupset hoods) and was like yep, follows the neutral line of the hand when gripped, this is THE MOST OBVIOUS way they should be designed as standard. F-in ridiculous.

[@TomSchillemans]

I have a bike (i don't really ride anymore but I still have it) that has one of the first Force double tap systems on it. I LOVE that system bar from one situation.. in the cold, with cold fingers, it can be very hard doing the double tap. Though, that is entirely fixed with electronic shifting ofc

[@buckcram5908]

SRAM official position is that T-Type and Flattop chains are not interchangible. T-Type chain is designed for 1x and the unique Transmission cassettes. New Red chain will likely have some marketed improvements, but it won't be T-Type.

[@timothymorrill9223]

Do you think SRAM will be able to get rid of that half second latency between pressing the button to shift and the derailleur actually shifting? Or is that as fast as it can be while still being wireless?

[@n8torious309]

SRAM builds in shifting latency intentionally if you have a FD paired to the RD because it needs to decide if you're shifting one lever or both. The solution, obviously, is to man up and stop running a FD #1Xgang

[@kimwarner6050]

​@@n8torious3091x runs slow as well. I have two scram 1x bikes, and my Shimano bike shifts faster and smoother. Shimano is also 1x

[@SkullnBones2012]

So no UDH direct mount option or is that coming later since the Big brands don't have UDH on their road frames yet.

[@GCPerformance18]

nope no udh

[@blakefx]

I run SRAM Red AXS rim brake now. I’d like to see trimming of the front derailleur like Shimano does. I would spec it on a new bike one day, depending on the deals!

[@thedownunderverse]

Sram doesn’t auto trim?

[@marcinstyle85]

Sram Red drama begins 🥳🤣🍺

[@GCPerformance18]

Lmaooo

[@MrMarkyone]

Looks like grx di2 shifters I have on my bike

[@GCPerformance18]

Exactly

[@littlemrdrummer]

Though I ride shimano...I'm excited for SRAM. Competition will keep Shimano on their toes. It's a good thing all around for the consumer. As long as they don't come back with some Campag. price tag.

[@GCPerformance18]

me too and I think they might come swinging for price point

[@alvaroodeh4794]

Great video grant as always, Im only confused about the clippers, those are not the ones Ive seen/tested, the other parts are spot on

[@rafalapolanski]

yeah, it looks cool. Doubt my pockets r gonna be able to handle the price... and hell yeah I think you may ba good looking, plz take it in the perspective... some ppl say that TIME bike with Shimano groupset looks nice :)

[@jamiehiggins1462]

The shifters look different then the rival and new force. I have rival on my road bike and the new force on my gravel and really like it because it isn't as bulky as shimano shifters. I was hoping the new Red would follow suite, but it looks different.

[@steve_m.3403]

Does the rear derailleur look like a direct mount (no hanger required)?

[@AC-lt5ro]

No front derailleur to avoid chain drop from the previous gen 🙃🙃🙃

[@brettsta72]

Don’t see any red on this sram red. Why call it red?

[@HuyNguyen-mu5oj]

That RD looks like a hollow out to save weight version of the new Force D2 RD. and probably lighter materials through out too.

[@WorldinFastForward]

Detective GC P is doing his great work again 🕵. For me a rear derailleur looks a lot like the mountainbike one from Sram with a UDH hanger and pulley wheels.

[@GCPerformance18]

Hahhaa thank you. I try to bring you all news :)

[@hd2323]

@@GCPerformance18 where is your shop located in Florida. Would love to come visit .

[@didiersnake8474]

Panda podium said it will launch in march

[@spartanbike2260]

release is in May..

[@christopherbaird4952]

All I want is 2x12 mechanical, with the 10-36 cassette.

[@LivoniaLimo]

Campy has you covered.

[@bebopman5]

Might have to hit up Ratio and get it crackin with some tools and an 11 speed Hydro groupset

[@christopherbaird4952]

@@bebopman5 that, or bodge the Apex 1x12 system on the rear together with a Force or Rival 2x front system. I think it might kind of work with different pulley wheels? I've got another year or two before I can actually afford to put together my dream bike, hoping against all odds that SRAM comes out with a way to do it right before then.

[@Doggepp]

My local dealer posted a pic of a SRAM cardboard box today and said something like "A package from SRAM - Which im not allowed to open, until their rep comes here and educates me" teasing us. Thought it was this since you posted it, but he only sells MTB's, not road bikes. What do you think it could be, RS Flight Attendant stuff, even though its branded Sram? Or maybe the new Sram downhill brakes all the pros have been riding this season? Would be fun to hear your input! (maybe you're not allowed to tell us either!)

[@cvilla_75]

I’m down with those new hoods

[@cvilla_75]

What’s your guess on complete group set price?

[@GCPerformance18]

It’s either gonna be around duraace at $4000 or they are gonna want to move units and out price SHIMANO and go cheap. Maybe like $3500 for the full thing

[@cvilla_75]

@@GCPerformance18 cool, thanks. I’ve never priced just a group set, so I had no clue. I’m really looking forward to this, mainly for the new hoods.

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

Levers & shifters combo looks wayyyyyy better and sleeker too. Love thr rear derailleur too. Don’t like the disc calipers.

[@LivoniaLimo]

Looks fantastic. Very modern. I Like it. Thank you

[@fabianmolyneux2308]

Looks fantastic!

[@GCPerformance18]

It is!

[@iTribe-xn9qe]

Yay! Will wait another year before I buy my bike then. Another year to save🤣😂

[@GCPerformance18]

Maybe this year :)))

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

I'm concerned about the rotors being too flexible. They might need a little more metal

[@pellme]

It was obvious that a new Red is around the corner with all the discounts and offers on Sram red bikes

[@GCPerformance18]

Yea we have been waiting for a while

[@mszymkowski]

The video is interesting and the observation is well done, but in my opinion, saying "it looks lighter" sounds somewhat strange. 🙂

[@GCPerformance18]

because it does, the rear der looks so similar to the current red, butt his just has more holes in it, me coming to the conclusion it looks lighter

[@comedyman112]

Is this hot swappable with my rival 12s etap Axs? 2x

[@GCPerformance18]

I do not know yet. But if it is 12 speed I am guessing yes. But I have a feeling at launch they will only sell complete groups

[@LOZUPONEJ]

I’m sure it will be lighter and yes, you’re good looking

[@graemehill]

Predictions: fully wired, triple chainring only

[@sreallybrah]

I haven't been this excited for a groupset launch in a while.

[@sonny6893]

Campagnolo Super Record Wireless 12v 🔝🔝🔝👍👍👍

[@GCPerformance18]

Nooooo

[@ConfuzedCactus]

Those shifters are pretty ugly and the shorter hoods are a step backward. The action button is a good addition though.

[@lucycat7585]

Brake calipers either look very cool, or like 1970s retro tech. Not sure.

[@GCPerformance18]

I like them more then the current

[@BreakawayB]

🤹 *SRAM going for Shimano’s jugular!*

[@Grunge_Cycling]

Idk man old Dura-ace still kicks ass

[@thedownunderverse]

😂 Shimano trounces SRAM

[@qwertyazerty2137]

Chinese manufacturer Wheeltop recently released their first road electronic groupset, the EDS TX which is very similar tho these Sram ones. And they released both hydraulic and mechanical brake versions. Currently theres only one offer on ali. Previously they released a mtb electronic groupset EDS OX.

[@huhhuhu2994]

Don’t buy chinese quality problems

[@androiduro]

and you? Are you more of a Sram or Shimano fan? I'm interested. That Sram Red lever looks good. I prefer black brake calipers. I agree with you that Sram will seek to gain weight over Shimano with this group. What a desire to see it. I prefer Sram because it is more technological and works well. I just miss the Shimano brakes, which in my opinion are better, especially on MTB. I see your videos subtitled and translated. i do not know how to speak English

[@DeveryAndrews]

Take my money if I can use it with rim brakes.

[@ivarbrouwer197]

None of these parts seem to look like each other in terms of ‘esthetics/design language’. I doubt it if this is the final production version.

[@LifeCycle1978]

I agree.

[@williwacker2774]

Brake callipers still look cheap compared to Force/Rival/Apex.

[@chrissheldon2681]

Way more lighter.. Way more better Way more ergo(er) 😩

[@Trimate02]

You guessed that it is might be lighter than the current model. Does it matter? No. And why? Coz the sram - doesnt matter if rival, force or red - fd just shift waaaay slower than the shimano di2 12s fds. Does it matter? I think absolutely yes. Aint a sram fan at all as you can see, but i accept if a groupset has good points. As a mechanic i could easily find for any axs road components a negative point which is just simply annoying af and people dont deserve that quality for their money. Anyway, thanks for the vid and lets see what sram brings out.

[@diehardbikes]

And Shimano or Campagnolo don't have negatives? Try this: if your derailleur batteries die on you on a ride because you forgot to charge them, you can't swap out for a spare battery you brought with you. And as someone who rides long distances with no backup- at all- nobody can get me if something happens, I often don't have cell service, often in the middle of nowhere, I HAVE to get home, there is NO other option- I can tell you Sram AXS is my best choice. Pro mechanic or not: I'm not anti any brand unless it's a brand that is flat out dangerous, but hearing people say that really irks me. It has less to do with what brands I like and more to do with what has let me down the least. It also is important to say: what might be right for you might not be right for other people. Personally I love Fox droppers. However I dislike the SL posts. Someone else might be better off with a PNW post. That's cool, as long as the saddle clamp isn't gonna break off and that rod go up your ass, you know? If you like Shimano, cool, go with it. Just don't ride thier cranks. They just might separate. And then they will brush you and over 4,000 other people off. And then proceed to only accept obvious flaws in thier fake recall to make everyone feel better after 11 years of putting customers in danger. They aren't safe. Get my point? And don't even get me started on thier mechanical shifters...... every brand, Sram included, has thier faults. Some are just worse than others. For me, Shimano is a no go.

[@ruisantos5746]

Still missing the weakest part : the front mech

[@LifeCycle1978]

That’s an old argument. New FD works just fine.

[@garyaland]

Force D2 FD works perfect!!!! @@LifeCycle1978

[@Shadowboost]

1x only, lol

[@dexterx55]

Those shifters look amazing!!! so sleek

[@GCPerformance18]

I can’t wait to see them in person

[@MaxPorsche-ei5jo]

Waiting for force feedback

[@GCPerformance18]

Force is amazing. It literally is this years red just all black. It is right now my fave sram group that have

[@nationsnumber1chump]

I spec'd an Allez Sprint for $5700 at 18.36 lbs with SRAM Force AXS. A Winspace T1550 with the same specs, cost literally $100 more but saves you 3.23 lbs @ 6.863kg. I know what I'm gonna get. It's too difficult to get the weight lower without going with a lighter or carbon frame but the cost is too much to justify.

[@nationsnumber1chump]

I ran the numbers against Giant's bike's. They are very overpriced comparatively for the weight.

[@Shadowboost]

A used Cannondale, 15 pounds, 500 dollars total

[@alfkh]

around 2:30 mark, u mentioned wahoo & garmin, but not karoo hammerhead. Why not? Bec SRAM acquired karoo hammerhead some time ago, definitely more than 7 days ago which is the "age" of this vid according 2 youtube, shimano stopped supporting karoo hammerhead on their hood-buttons bec SRAM was deemed "a competitor!" Unfortunately, bike group sets are not the same industry as software companies, else shimano would probably hv been dragged 2 court long ago for being "anti competitive" like microsoft, facebook, google & amazon.😉

[@GCPerformance18]

I have hammerhead computer I just think its muscle memory to say wahoo garmin as the big names that come to mind even though I love the hammerhead

[@marcinstyle85]

Hope they dont skip rim brake option as they will loose a lot of buyers

[@GCPerformance18]

I have a feeling they will unfortunately, with the release of the new apex axs released. That is the rim brake model for them

[@Gufolicious]

definitely looks better than the current one. the hoods look sleeker than the old ones but still not as good as dura ace in my opinion. and the most important part (front deraileur) was not shown yet. i have never dropped a chain ever on shimano. cant say the same for sram.

[@GCPerformance18]

Yea I’m happy for this and let’s see how this front der works

[@Konzuug]

Looks like grx di2

[@GCPerformance18]

It does lol

[@_MrSnrub]

Brifters look great. Really hoping for the grouppo to be lighter than Dura-Ace. Competition is good for the consumer.

[@eto2352]

SRAM went MTB Eagle with the derailleurs and hit the levers with an ugly stick.

[@gb4408]

Looks a little bit like $7000

[@davidfidler6449]

Drillium!

[@whizler]

No FD because it's a 1x only. You heard it here first!

[@СергейИванов-п9к3о]

it's like copy of wheeltop eds tx new road grouset from China :)

[@GCPerformance18]

I’m trying to get that group right now

[@JosephNieto-o8r]

Plot twist… there is no front derailleur

[@williwacker2774]

Not that I care now that I'm 1x only but maybe something big is about to come? I mean this "self-derailleuring" crankset patent drawings of which were spotted a year ago or so.

[@n8torious309]

Same jockey wheels as the T-Type

[@Konzuug]

Looks nice but i wont spend the funds

[@mjock392]

So no FD? Good riddance, 2x12 is redundant, 1x all the way :)

[@razorree]

WTF....why sram mechs are SOOO BIG ???

[@styven77]

I run sram and totally agree

[@DaM.1]

Looks awful. But I thought the same about the new Force AXS when it launched and now I think it's best looking groupset. Either way, Shimano is still way better for road

[@auricschiller]

Maybe we should wait to find out what the differences are before judging which group is best...

[@DaM.1]

@@auricschiller I agree. But I doubt they are going to fix the gear ratios and flat top chain

[@dchan328]

Hilariously handsome 😂😂😂😂

[@GCPerformance18]

Lmao thank you

[@nerigarcia7116]

Hmmm, it says RED on it.

[@GCPerformance18]

yes it is red group

[@jamesspokes1372]

Trek are jobbing out P1 Madones with old RED on.....

[@dermitdemkuchentanzt4026]

SO A NEW 2500 euro/dollar groupset ...coool yea i am so happy right now

[@MikeFroom]

Just waiting for a price drop of the old stuff 😂

[@GCPerformance18]

It already left

[@MikeFroom]

@@GCPerformance18 yeah, but was not enough

[@jpfermo]

Oh well.. looks like imma sell my kidney now T_T

[@mahmoudkhalil7973]

If this real why we didn't see it in new Bora team ? Or on the official website ? Just you need more views

[@GCPerformance18]

Yea I need more views……. When you see this released come back and apologize please

[@mahmoudkhalil7973]

@@GCPerformance18 apologize for what I didn't say something wrong dear , I mean where is the new SRAM ? Bora recently shifted to SRAM why they didn't use ? Why I can not see this in official SRAM store ? You understand me dear ? I say it is not permissible to spread rumors that Don't have a reliable source

[@chessgames5931]

Another SRAM Red sneak peak? How long has GC been telling the people of the, "Soon to be here. SRAM RED!"..........Looking ahead to release day. I can hear GC Nostradamus now, "Just like I've been telling yall.......".(Save it!)#FloridaManLives

[@GCPerformance18]

Hahahaha I’m telling you all once it releases I will make a “everything I predicted was right video lol”

[@Timtimzi]

I’ll check it out but knowing all this I’d still go Japanese

[@toite3x3ninjah]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@_cpdchua]

Brake calipers looks sexy! 🤩

[@openwheelracing88]

Who even has UDH frame?

[@kimwarner6050]

Trek

[@robertpiche5167]

Always nicer the Sram Red than the Shimano Dura-ace 😊

[@julianallen515]

Way more lighter. LOL

[@GCPerformance18]

Wayyy

[@neilwheel]

It's betterer.

[@henderthing]

Way more betterer

[@raulfernandezperez73]

can't SRAM make uglier shifters ?

[@GCPerformance18]

I actually like this refresh but also I like the grx di2 shape

[@raulfernandezperez73]

@@GCPerformance18 oh man thos campy shifters are sooo pretty !!

[@joshualancekemp]

Yesterday I said goodbye to my 2009 LOOK Origin 566 frameset because of a crack in the chainstay. The 10 speed SRAM Red group is still working flawlessly. As soon as my 2011 Trek Madone 6.9 with 10 speed Red dies, I’ll get something new and it’ll have the Red group. And, yes Grant, you’re a great looking guy, but I’m happily married 😂

[@GCPerformance18]

Hahahaha thank you!!

[@geothunder1971]

Hate to be that guy doing all that Dremel work! lol

[@GCPerformance18]

Bench grinder. Really fast

[@drayzen9678]

Yep, they absolutely need to reduce their ergonomics and reliability so they don't make ShItmano look too bad.. 😄