Prof. Peter Brukner - 'Can we really put type 2 diabetes into remission?'

[@JimSiverts]

Why would a diabetic eat one single gram of carbohydrate. Diabetes is elevated blood glucose with virtually all of it from eating it. Here’s an idea - stop eating it. The requirement for dietary carbohydrate is zero, not one gram ever. How is it possible to have elevated glucose if you don’t eat glucose. I eat none as I eat carnivore. The chances of me being diabetic are exactly zero. Forget low carb. Go NO carb. How about a study on a group of diabetics eating ZERO carbohydrate. See how many stay diabetic.

[@smcdonald9991]

I agree. I had been between 6.0 and 6.5 all my adult life until 2010. Switching to Keto 14 years ago I have been consistently around 5.0-5.1. Also got rid of my triglycerides/cholesterol problem, IBSD, acid reflux, nagging lower back pain, low grade inflammation, joint pain, and low energy. My quality of life is better now than it was 20 years ago when I was not on a low-carb diet.

[@Amanda_downunder]

true. Bart Kay would agree, no carbs r necessary !! This channel will help.

[@ronnapierson7178]

That makes sense doesn’t it. But people don’t want to give up eating the way they have been eating, which gives them so much pleasure. And I should capitalize that word pleasure I think, at heart a lot of people are just hedonists. Without realizing it, of course. But yeah, you are spot on, that has been my mantra all along. Why would you put any kind of sugar into your mouth if you are diabetic. My son is having a hard time grasping with this thing and I want to shake some ascension to him and it’s difficult.

[@JimSiverts]

@@ronnapierson7178 no question. That is the hardest part. It truly is an addiction and needs to be treated as such. The good news is that the more adapted you become the less you even think about carbs. When you do eat them you are thinking why did I just do that! I guess at some point as with all addictions you have to decide if the benefits are worth more than the bad habit. Is it going to be candy bars or diabetes? For me it was easy to make that call.

[@michelenichele294]

Cortisol (can come from stress, etc.) generates glucose. So even if you don’t ingest any, you can generate your own. 😕

[@SimplyHuman186]

Yes. Yes we can

[@jobrown8146]

We sure can. I'm another one who has done so!

[@Terrierized]

Mid forties, Never had tests, but awareness of T2d led me to avoid carbs 👍

[@charlieanstey9998]

Weight gain or loss is a symptom, not a cause. Congratulations Dr. Brukner. From Canada

[@PiujuqInuitArt]

I am from Canada too. We are Inuit. Had the original low carb diet. Our government told us we were wrong and killed our hunting dogs so that we could not get our meat.

[@jimw6659]

I reversed my T2D inside three months with low carb, having come off Metformin after just two months. My Hba1c has been perfectly low (under 40 mmol - it was 105 when first diagnosed) for over three years. Trig to HDL ratio of 1. That is all without exercise as I am disabled. My doctor still says I’m diabetic.

[@rahvastepaabel]

Whats ur doctor reasoning?

[@Hugo_ZB]

I am very glad to hear that. I have one question I cannot find the answer to, and perhaps you could help me. If someone in your situation had a high carb meal, would his glucose and insulin response be similar to that of a person with diabetes or to someone who has never had diabetes?

[@sigalsmadar4547]

​@@Hugo_ZBA type 2 is finally recognized as type 2 from the spillage of glucose into the urine or blood after DECADES of perpetually high INSULIN levels. The body can't take being out of balance any more. A former type 2 will probably have a "normal" response for a one time meal. However consistent doses of carbs again will start the downward spiral again.

[@amicableenmity9820]

They probably say you're still diabetic because if you were to go off diet you'd go right back into having full blown diabetes.

[@adelarsen9776]

"Ancel Keys would be proud of that straight line" I had to laugh out loud upon hearing that....

[@smcdonald9991]

Hahaha, I did too. The doc has a good sense of humour.

[@mausplan3890]

I am 74 ,male, same scores as #143 . When I got the 7.1 score last week I asked my Doctor do I get a gold star. She said no. 6.5 maybe but the target is

[@miltonbates6425]

"Plant-based"?...well there's your problem.

[@magsmcginty3929]

Stop eating the plants, my friend- check out Dr Anthony Chaffee..Kelly Hogan..

[@marilynroper5739]

I understood that plants are carbs???

[@jimw6659]

Please try hard to lose the rice. We had a TV program in the U.K. where they equated the sugar in various foods to the sugar in a can of Coke. They said one bowl of rice has the same effect as drinking two cans of Coke! Good luck!

[@4himsanctified]

Target should be under 5.6. Ideal healthy is around 4.5.

[@BritGirlJay]

Been keto/low carb for 7 years now. A1c down from 6.1 (pre-diabetic) to 5.2/5.0 (it varies each time I get bloods) and has stayed down there for the entire time. It lowered within a month of starting. I eat well. I'm older (over 50) and take zero medications.

[@joannekerr8839]

Fantastic! I took several screencaps to print off and take to my GP who is a medication junkie (we're constantly butting heads but if I change GPs I lose my bulk-billing).

[@gloriaharbridge4986]

I am no longer considered Type2 Diabetic. Only ever controlled by diet. In remission. Diet Controlled. I don't care what you call it. I have only lost a a few kilo so still overweight. I am also off antihypertensives.

[@4himsanctified]

I thought Covid was our greatest threat ;)... feel 6.5 is WAY to high. As with BP they are raising the bar. My goal is sup 5.6, and more ideally under 5.

[@m-hadji]

I live in US and i have diagnosed with T2D in 1996. Fast forward fo 2021 I was on 7 meds including 2 insulins injections. Nov 2021 I started cutting all my carbs except salad and berries. Since then my A1C drops to 5.7 and never back up. The only medication I kept in metformin. I lost55 lbs and my energy level is good for 57 years old man. I have CGM and i keep average of 120 all the time with SD of 14. Sorry for nerd part I couldn’t help it. Try cut your carb it works. It did for me.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

Cut out the fruit! And maybe you'll get to the moon diabetic level of 5.6 and no metformin. Watch Dr Ken Berry channel. You can do it! You've already done the hardest part! Congratulations!

[@carolyngreen5458]

Absolutely we can! It’s not a matter of remission, it’s a matter of restoring homeostasis. Clear all the things out of the body that should not be there such as heavy metals, chemicals, synthetics, petrochemicals. Then bring the minerals, fats, Acidity/alkalinity into proper levels and ratios so that the body can function in an efficient balanced manner then all dis ease and illness would be gone. Minds and temperaments would be restored to balance. But this can’t be allowed because there would be no huge resources generated for those who want it.

[@sandgroper-ig9nk]

I agree . Got off carbs walk on average 25km at average 4.5kmph a week. Drink only water and reduced coffee with milk to one a day. Reduced meals to one a day in the evening and portion sized to a soup bowl 1/4 cup protein rest legumes veg salad no potato rice pasta once a fortnight. I won't look back have all the benifits mentioned feel very fresh now more active and sleep is just great Got these results.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

Legumes are very high carbs. Also they have lots of anti nutrients.

[@maryshyrock1770]

Pre diabetes is 5.7 and up. Diabetes can be irradicated with the proper human diet.

[@geefull]

I agree we can, I've been 'under control' or in 'remission' so far since 2017 on a low carb diet with good protein, healthy fats and moderate walking exercise.

[@TheU2now]

I did it

[@JewishKeto]

YES 100%! I put mine into remission. :)

[@jobrown8146]

I use the term _remission_ for what I have achieved by low carb diet alone (since Oct 2021) simply because I know that if I start eating too many carbs I will end up with diabetes again.

[@Zeek-Tomo]

Yes, we know it can be put in to remission for most people. But the question I want an answer to is that is it possible that for some fit people on keto with low IR it is still not possible for total remission? I want to hear about the outliers, of which I may be one. My A1C remains around 7.0 after years of keto.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

You've still got too many carbs somewhere. Watch Dr Ken Berry channel. You may have to do full carnivore to get to non diabetic 5.6 a1c.

[@scipioafricanus2]

normal HbA1c levels are below 5.7. that should be the threshold.

[@rayharrison6234]

Depends on where you live. It's 5.9 in UK

[@binda33]

I'm finding that a lot of articles and vids like this tend to blur the distinction between curing/remission and diet controlled diabetes. I do believe that T2 can be put into remission in some cases, mainly those that are newly diagnosed. In most though, their T2 is not in remission, it is merely diet controlled instead of medication controlled. I'm aiming for one of the above so I can show my own doctor who believes that T2 is a progressive disease and still prescribes the "diabetic plate" and meds, along with a grim prognosis.

[@Debbie-jz6ef]

There is no CURE. What you eat controls the health you have. If I hit my leg with a hammer it's going to be red and sore and other damage. If I stop hitting myself and the pain and redness and all the other issues go away and I cured of the results of hitting myself with a hammer? No.. the moment I start doing it again I will get the same symptoms. The same with inappropriate food. Your pain and symptoms go away because you are no longer eating things that cause I'll health. You have not cured anything only the body's response to it. Eat it again and your health issues will come back. You cannot CURE anything because it is what you eat that is causing ill health and disease.

[@apollosun6268]

You're actually saving lives. The people behind Covid aren't going to be very happy about that.

[@finagill]

If diet is the cause of a disease then surely diet can be the cure. I used to be a type 2. After going keto I was able to drop my meds. My highest hA1c since stopping the meds has been a 5.0. It will be 2 years come nest week.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

Awesome! Congratulations! 4 is the 6 members of my family died because of diabetes and the conventional medical practices. I being the youngest diabetic in the family an healthier than anyone else ever was at this age because if low carb.

[@kebsriad]

Gone from 104kg to 88 in 5 months …. From hb1a 7.8 to 6.2 in the first three month and 5.62 after 4 months other months … without any medication

[@BiggieCheese45]

This is the way

[@TheRealOMT]

What about type 1?

[@sigalsmadar4547]

I am type 1 48 years. It is an autoimmune disease. And yes insulin helps us live, but too much insulin is still the bad guy. It is easy to do very very low carb as a type 1. Eat a no carb meal. Check your BG every half hour after to make sure your basal rate is low enough to not give you a low episode between eating. Decide now what your rescue carbs will be....a set amount, like 15g cho, not during an emergency. If you keep your basal low enough, you won't need to chase the insulin with food. Be careful when you bolus because you will be more sensitive to insulin and you may need to change your correction ratio. You want to bring down sugar gently, not push it down forcefully with a large bolus. Otherwise you bottom out 3 hours later and you're still in the same boat with too many carbs and too much insulin. I use a pump so i can turn down the basal rate when i have no desire to eat when the BG is drifting down, such as the middle of the night. You can do low carb! And carnivore.

[@PTL77]

Enlightening podcast! ❤ The additional encouraging point to note here is that T2D is a condition within our control by the stuff we put in our mouths and by default, most chronic diseases too.

[@yt9207]

The reason for failing HbA1c possibly that your pancreas does not function well. If you took gliclazide for years, your pancreas has been overloaded. No matter you are on keto or low carb. Malnutrition is also no good for pancreatic health.

[@saidmuzungu23muzungu83]

Exactly on point,,,,and if they've reversed diabatic on keto why they can't add healthy carbohydrates back into their diet without spiking blood sugar and insulin levels?

[@mpoharper]

Yes!!

[@DeviatingVapors]

nearly 1T .. could be spent on an extra submarine or research on edible foods that don’t have any carbohydrates or starches. definitely seems to be a correlation to eroded health. almost like there is a dose dependant component happening there. when bodies run on fat instead. that seems optimal. really changed my mind when a U.S. doctor pointed out that Argentina shipped their beef to the final soccer matches. don’t see many obese players. not sure why we don’t return to before 1921 .. with all that has been learned the last 100+ years of the failures associated with starches and sugars as ‘ food stuff ‘, wanting to take one drug to counteract another is. plain daft. ‘ if refined carbs were healthy. ‘ they would be.

[@yosefsugi1808]

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[@yay-cat]

I’d like to point out the link between ADHD and diabetes. It’s probably the biggest risk factor and definitely the most affected group. ADHD reduces life expectancy more than diabetes or heart disease or cancer. The reduced life expectancy of diabetes could possibly be partly attributed to ADHD or conversely the 10 year reduced ADHD life expectancy might be partly because of diabetes. Undiagnosed adhd folks without access to stimulant medication self medicate with sugar caffeine nicotine or worse. Every adhd person I know used to drink litres of Coca Cola before diagnosis. Also it’s a sensory thing to self regulate with food especially say crunchy food. But I realised I could use cucumber and sugar-snap peas instead of say biscuits and popcorn. But I think that my meditation, which I absolutely cannot function in society without, is maybe worsening insulin resistance (it works by putting pressure on the adrenal glands to make normal situations more urgent or fight-flight ish) and then you maybe have a bit more dopamine or norepinephrine. But a strict keto diet also increases cortisol and, I’ve read, that adhd brains struggle to metabolise fats or ketones and are very dependent on sugars for fuel (that bit needs fact checking). Has anyone managed to adapt a keto diet for adhd folk especially for women? Because the medication doesn’t work well in luteal phase so generally we revert back to carbs in this time

[@Debbie-jz6ef]

Go Carnivore. It can reverse ADHD

[@Tracertme]

I agree with all of this but would never consult a GP for anything post Covid.❤ best to look after yourself… Gut bio health is not difficult. 😅

[@MVDK29]

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[@danielc3003]

Does eliminating alcohol put alcoholics into remission?

[@sigalsmadar4547]

Yes. If a person does not have the autoimmune disease then they weren't always a type 2. So it definitely can be reversed!

[@krakraichbinda]

Fructose and alcohol do the same thing to the liver - Fatty Liver Disease. They metabolize in the liver almost identically! If you don't eat fructose and don't drink alcohol you'll get rid of fat from your liver.

[@Jack-ki8ei]

I met Peter Brukner at LCDU. He was incredibly rude.

[@Rainb0wSeven]

That might have been a reaction to how you approached him.

[@GhostOfRT300]

Meh. His talk is geared to promote his book.

[@jamesyoung1012]

This Dr is not a good example of healthy looking he is one that made a comment you should not supplement With his arrogant communication