M3 Pro vs M2 Pro vs M1 Pro | Pro Photo Workflow Test - Disappointing performance?

M3 Pro vs M2 Pro vs M1 Pro | Pro Photo Workflow Test & Review. This is a comprehensive test of Apple newest M3 Pro SoC inside the 16" MacBook Pro. This review will also compare the previous generation M1 Pro & M2 Pro as well. These tests includes Lightroom Classic, Lightroom, Capture One, Photoshop, Final Cut Pro and After Effects. These are tests done from a perspective of a pro photographers so you can choose the best machines that fits your workflow.
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00:00 Intro
00:12 Preface
01:04 Test System
03:14 Betting on improvements
03:30 Memory Bandwidth
04:36 Additional systems
06:11 Huge leap for intel Mac
06:48 Thunderbolt Bus
06:55 Retest Everything
07:10 Observations
07:48 Display Brightness
08:05 Color Calibration
08:24 Pro Approach
08:29 Single App Test
08:42 Test Configs
09:04 Effect of SSD & RAM Is known
09:17 SSD
10:27 Internal vs External SSD
10:56 Memory - RAM
12:45 32GB+ for Pro
13:30 Reading the Spec
13:37 Lightroom Classic
13:48 LRC Preview 1:1 Reference
14:26 LRC Preview 1:1
15:14 LRC Export Reference
15:38 LRC Export
16:44 LRC HDR
17:23 LRC Panorama Merge
18:49 LRC AI Noise Reduction
19:47 Lightroom CC - LR Export
20:51 Capture 1 - C1 Preview
22:27 C1 Export
23:19 Photoshop
26:32 Video Export
26:43 FCP H.264
27:38 H.265 HEVC
28:08 ProRes 422
28:28 AfterEffects
29:44 Analysis
32:01 Should you upgrade
32:09 From Intel
32:19 From Apple Silicon
32:50 SoC Recommendations
33:11 Upgrade Path
34:03 Conclusion
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[@AlexandruVladutu]

Oh God finally. I am refreshing KZbin for the past 24 hours and nothing super relevant related to M3 Pro vs M2 Pro yet. So glad you posted this! Thanks

[@PS3gameplays]

Same haha

[@FightingMango]

Same here!! The max is just too expensive to justify but the Pro seems a nice middle ground.

[@maxm4852]

Same 😂😂😂

[@user-mg2wb1ec6r]

Same here 4 😂😂

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@BrockGunterSmith]

Absolutely SPECTACULAR video! Thorough, unbiased, and easy to understand. No joke, this is one of the best product reviews of this kind I’ve seen on KZbin. 👍 ALSO, it makes me super happy that I invested in the M1 Ultra 128GB machine as it is still just a BEAST 😄

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes that machine will continue to be a beast and they are getting cheaper now as well, which makes them even a better buy!

[@NetvoTV]

Hey man, do you use up all the 128gb ram in yellow or red memory pressure? I heard macOS will fill as much as possible to the ram if there are availability, having it fill up nearly full doesn't mean one will need it and filled it with essential data, hence I not sure if one truly going to utilise that 128gb ram, but 5 years down the road it will be useful? Since when we have 32gb of ram in common laptop and desktop and how many years for it to reach a point it's the recommended or minimum need and not the more than needed purchase? Even your machine going to need that amount of ram, do the rest of your system going to able to catch up but end up still need to upgrade the whole system?

[@BrockGunterSmith]

@@NetvoTV Typically if I have Topaz Photo AI processing photos in the background while I continue to work in Lightroom, I will see 64GB to 96GB of memory being actively used. The majority of that memory is used by the GPU cores, followed by CPU cores then NPU cores. I have seen the memory maxed out, but I have to try hard to make that happen by having 4 or 5 instances of Topaz Photo AI working at the same time for example. I believe the extremely fast memory throughput on the Ultra machines REALLY has a big impact on the speed that it is able to complete many tasks since it is two to four times faster than on the base, pro or max models to different degrees. I truly believe and have seen clear proof of what Apple claims, that you actually do need less memory than on Intel machines but also that the INCREDIBLY FAST memory transfer rates on the Ultra chips in particular are able to share data between the CPU, GPU, and NPU cores in a way that has a radical effect on speed.

[@Moey248]

Howmuch did the ultra cost u??

[@clintmallon]

I can’t believe you put this much energy into a comparison video. Truly spectacular. Hands down one of the best comparison videos I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks again!

[@RyanDaMannn]

So glad I found this channel, you helped me pick the right device for myself through your real world use case and comparison videos. Thank you for the incredible work, you provide more value than any other tech youtube channel!

[@ArtIsRight]

Great to hear!

[@billb8262]

Phenomenal work and information. The hard work you put into these is evident. These real comparisons help us users know beyond benchmarks how a machine performs. So happy you do this and please keep up the hard work! Love your content.

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@ethanyaang]

This is the exact review I've been looking for in my life. Great great thanks

[@ArtIsRight]

No problem!

[@DanRustle]

prob the best channel for indepth testing and valued conclusions. glad i found this channel randomly the other day.

[@ArtIsRight]

Welcome aboard!

[@3seriouss]

This is the information I needed. THANK YOU!

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[@ChristianFuchsBlues]

Damn, this video was a lot of work! No boomy bloated narration, just ALL facts and even chapters! Thank you!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@joyKafka]

Thank you for your speedy tests! Can't wait for the next and hopefully you would include some more tests about AI & Video processing, with more RAM and CPU cores, for sure.

[@ArtIsRight]

That will have to come later via Topaz apps

[@mathieuceccarini1841]

I think this is really the best KZbin video so far to compare the M pro series, I'm really looking forward to seeing the M3 max binned and unbinned vs M2/M1 Max

[@ArtIsRight]

Coming tomorrow, part of it anyway

[@KPixton]

Art as always fantastic video! Thank you for your thorough approach and wise recommendations!

[@ArtIsRight]

My pleasure!

[@kevinhawkins82]

Thank you for these videos! You do a GREAT job!

[@ArtIsRight]

Welcome!

[@mariopereira8261]

Fantastic comparison, lots of well explained information, thank you very much 👏👏👏

[@ArtIsRight]

My pleasure!

[@Drstator86]

Mindful Review. The best review I have ever seen so far. Make a lot of sense. Thank you!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@DryAx3]

Best chanel for in depth Macs comparisons!!!

[@ArtIsRight]

thank you!

[@jlf_]

Amazing video, well spoken and visualized. My M3 Max arrives tomorrow.

[@ArtIsRight]

That machine is a beast!

[@81GTUN4]

i always look for your macbook pro reviews. thank you

[@ArtIsRight]

You're Welcome!

[@user-cz9tk3mt6n]

YOU ARE LEGEND! Thanks for detailed review

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@sangkyunpark]

Thank you so much, I was so much waiting for Macbook Pro M3pro review.

[@ArtIsRight]

😁

[@JamieTorontoAtkinson]

Another amazing video. Thanks so much

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks

[@Zero-is-infinite]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VID, THIS SERIES, & THIS CHANNEL. I’m tired of watching bums run benchmarks for base models for people who are going to look at emails and corn. This is the data that’s important and thank you again for actually doing real workflow test not just grabbing numbers from someone else’s website.

[@ArtIsRight]

More to come! 😁

[@roystevenson9632]

Outstanding job, thank you.

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank You!

[@nedis4]

Wow, this is a perfect video. I was deciding whether to get M3 Pro or M1 Max laptop for photo-editing work and this completely covered the subject. Tons of respect to you for this extend of tests and machines coverage!

[@ArtIsRight]

You're very welcome!

[@JustAPersonWhoComments]

A KZbin who finally fully compared M1 Pro, M2 Pro and M3 Pro chips

[@ArtIsRight]

😁

[@Mustang-mb7cg]

Wow, this is a legit comparison! Much appreciated! Better than the "Wow look at this color and does it pass the fingerprint test" reviews

[@ArtIsRight]

I can test those too ;)

[@MD2525-1]

All I do is lightroom stuff for my my pics from canon R6 and chrome with 12 tabs open. M2 pro 1tb ssd 32 gb of m3 pro 36 gb 1tbssd

[@ShuopengLiao]

This is by far the most valuable and practical Mac CPU family comparison guide I've seen. Instead of relying on benchmarking software, use the real case scenario that image/video creators care about most. Thank you. You deserve more subscriptions and clicks.

[@ArtIsRight]

Much appreciated!

[@oterotube13]

Great great review!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks!

[@chinxdia]

Really appreciate the video! Thank you for making this! As someone switching from a 2018 Mac Air to an M chip, I'm sure everything will be significantly better... But this helps with the confusion around which to buy.

[@ArtIsRight]

Significantly! :)

[@cesarn.5330]

Thanks so much such hard work. Real professional, not like the rest of Apple sales force (KZbinrs reviewers unboxers, etc).

[@ArtIsRight]

I appreciate that!

[@siewkimng1085]

Art is BEST! Thank you for the review!

[@ArtIsRight]

You bet!

[@michaelleski7480]

Finally!!!:) excellent video!!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks!

[@1Aquadon]

Thanks Art.. I'm waiting for M3 15" macbook Air & M3 Studio Series.. hopefully this spring!!

[@ArtIsRight]

I hear you!

[@kplau79]

Appreciate the very detailed review and comparison of the M3 Pro! I love the fact you threw in a Razer machine in there to compare! Do you plan to also throw in things like Topaz Photo AI tests in there anytime soon? Am curious to see if they are using GPU or NPU as well! Looking forward to the M3 max video!

[@ArtIsRight]

later on....

[@kanishkacw0]

This is what I needed! ❤️‍🔥

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@EnmanuelQuinones51]

your videos are very useful.

[@ArtIsRight]

Glad you think so!

[@garygallant5390]

Very informative detailed facts. I tend to keep my equipment longer than most so I agree how Apple is slowly introducing upgrades as to not making the previous machines obsolete sooner.

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks for sharing

[@GetOffZero]

Thank you very much!

[@ArtIsRight]

You're welcome!

[@alpergezer9535]

What a gorgeous video!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you so much!

[@j340_official]

You are well spoken. Like a professor. Good video.

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you! 😃

[@user-up6or1yu2s]

The best review!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks!

[@duncanwallace7760]

Fantastic info that no-one else seems to be putting out there, thanks Art. $10 tip coming your way!

[@ArtIsRight]

Much appreciated!

[@Pavaragon]

what i was looking for !!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Yay!

[@joseduchphotography]

Thanks Art!

[@ArtIsRight]

You bet!

[@theapplewatchtriathlete8890]

Great video, very informative - many thanks! I'd be interested in more AI tests, including generative fill and expand in PS, but also other tools such as Topaz Photo AI and Video AI and maybe Luminar Pro too. AI is growing fast, so your insights into how apps are using CPU/GPU/NPU and how each SOC performs would be really interesting.

[@ArtIsRight]

👍🏼

[@bostonblack1463]

Such a good review

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you

[@tomlangelaar9880]

Great video, exactly what I am looking for. I wish you would show real life use of the programs like you did for the RAM video, scrubbing through video and applying masks. These are more important to me than import and export times tbh. But besides that, love your videos!

[@ArtIsRight]

The variation is null, for RAM get what you need any more. Personally for me I have a 128 GB M2 Ultra and I'm super happy, hardly max out the RAM, did that all the time in 64GB. But this is me. And as good as these bench are there are still variation between real scenario and bench test.

[@bladerealm124]

⁠what tasks were you maxing out 64GB with? I never really considered 128GB ram but I'm about to spend $4000+ on an M3 Max config and want to make sure that additional ram isn't needed. I regularly work in Adobe lightroom with hundreds of 45mp Canon R5 files, some HDR merging, and 4k editing of the tough h265 codec from the R5 in DaVinci and FCP.

[@wsteffen]

Very good video, thanks! I have a 16” M1 Pro with 16 GB Ram and 1TB SSD. I’m very pleased with it. I’m only a hobbyist with an old Nikon D3s stitching pictures together using Affinity Photo. And sometimes I shoot some videos on my iPhone and render them on Davinchi Resolve. For my usage my M1 Pro spoils me, but it’s interesting to see that a M1 Pro still performs well compared to both the M2 Pro and M3 Pro! It tells me I did something right when I bought my mac almost two years ago! 😊

[@mralxndr2846]

Same - we don’t need upgrade I think 🎉😂

[@ArtIsRight]

Nope, what you have is like a hot knife cutting through butter. you are good!

[@Secoutal]

THS IS AMAZING, and super fascinating. I would have never expected such mixed results. Its so awkward for Apple. Also, thank you for calling out Capture One!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you, been doing that for about 4 years now, things have not change much

[@keliu5821]

Very well organized comparison. Clear and sharp. The only 2 picky things are, the colorful barcharts make it difficult to spot M3P vs M2P vs M1P, especially those busy ones with other reference; so do the long names of each model in the arena.

[@ArtIsRight]

thanks, if you have a better idea let me know. The names are what they are really, they are long, sure but they tell you what you need to know about the spec. Hard to do it otherwise. Color charts... we'll see

[@keliu5821]

Like I said, this is just picky things. Personally though, in terms of the way of showing comparison, I would rather see the bar of M3P in highlight color, say Red, vs M2P & M1P's in low contrast color, ie light blue & green; and the other reference models' are all in even lower contrast color, e.g. light grey; For the names, pro/max/ultra is the first thing should be noticed, but the storage and core number is relatively less important, in short, maybe put the numbers in smaller fonts aside is an option to be consider.

[@jimtipton8888]

Thanks!

[@ArtIsRight]

Welcome!

[@artofnoly9754]

Tx so much.

[@ArtIsRight]

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[@eatsimplefood]

Thank You 🙏

[@ArtIsRight]

You’re welcome 😊

[@PatrickDiel]

Great review. It'd be interesting to see whether a more efficient use of existing performance in M3 Pro vs. M2 Pro pays off in regards to battery life?

[@ArtIsRight]

ok

[@JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls]

Art is fantastic and a TREMENDOUS help! I’m right at 95% decision of which MacBook Pro to get. Thanks to arts help. Just two or three more questions and I’m there.

[@ArtIsRight]

:)

[@RVincents]

Fantastic! THANK YOU! ESPECIALLY about memory... I am a firm believer in buy the most I can afford and then some.. with this level of laptop buying entry level Ram is a mistake.

[@ArtIsRight]

You are so welcome!

[@rochmadsigit1730]

Thank you for the spectacular analysis, i'm in M2 Pro right now, base on this video, i'm in the middle of conclusion. waiting for the big leap on the next generation Apple Silicon. Thank you very much for the Analysis. Awesome

[@ArtIsRight]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mementography]

thanks for real world tests! as professional photographer/creator: THANKS

[@ArtIsRight]

You bet!

[@nickethan7547]

Your upgrade path chart just made me juice my pants. Keep up the excellent work.

[@ArtIsRight]

That is awesome!

[@user-pb1dz6nd7t]

You ar THE BEST Bro😮👏👏👏👏

[@ArtIsRight]

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[@Jess_6p]

Thanks

[@ArtIsRight]

Welcome

[@dmfinpa]

An excellent report. I learned so much. I’m an amateur bird photographer on an Intel iMac. Edit raw files. I have pretty much ruled out the new (disappointing) iMac and now considering Studio. I did a config with M2 Max 38 core, 64/2TB. Is this overkill, about right or should I look at the M2U? I must keep in mind cost to acquire a hi-res monitor at least 4K, which I am totally flummoxed on that. The Apple 5K is too expensive for me, but I need something that going to look as good as my iMac screen. Thank you for your video.

[@ArtIsRight]

You don't need the ultra or even the maxed out max for that matter.

[@user-cz9tk3mt6n]

Best real world benchmark🔥 It's much better than just testing a typical benchmark with a only score. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on measuring battery time?

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@zakialiabbas1986]

Great insightful video. How did you get those fonts and colors on your slides? They look very much like how Apple presents.

[@ArtIsRight]

Apple Keynote app

[@_Chris390]

Good you put the full specs of each machine at the start. Most KZbinrs are clueless and do not mention which variant they have, the RAM, storage etc. Oh and you are missing a battery life test. Apparently the M3 Pro vs M2 Pro does quite well there. Please include battery life tests with your M3 Max comparisons, especially if you are testing a 14" M3 Max ;)

[@ArtIsRight]

" Oh and you are missing a battery life test. " Not missing but intentionally omit / not test, too much time to run that test. Did one on the M1 gen that will give a good idea kzbin.info/www/bejne/gamui316oZp2qdU And even that took forever

[@_Chris390]

@@ArtIsRight Thank you. Yes I just thought with the M3 being 3Nm, and after seeing another M3 Pro vs M2 Pro MBP video, it does seem like the M3 Pro MBP (and possibly the Max) have better battery life than the M2 Pro and Max. So that is a nice benefit, if for example someone was trying to decide between an M2 Pro and M3 Pro MBP.

[@stephanes.]

You should have millions of subscribers!!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you

[@boristahmasian9604]

Hi Art, another great, comprehensive video. Thank you for all your hard work. I wish your 16MBP M3P had more RAM. It looks like it is challenging the Ultras and only falling short where RAM is needed. It looks like MBP is finally challenging serious desktop Macs. I could see my next desktop being a MBP Max with at least 96GB RAM. That should outperform my current Studio Max M1 with 64GB RAM. I think Mac laptops have finally arrived.

[@ArtIsRight]

I hear you but I'm testing Stock Config, no more CTO unless necessary. Too many customization option and too costly. Just wait till my Max video tomorrow

[@boristahmasian9604]

@@ArtIsRight Thank you.

[@sergejkrynycky728]

Great video! I have a M1 Macbook Air with 16gb ram and thinking of getting one of the two 14” MBP M3 Pro. Either stock or full version. Hope this will be a solid upgrade. What do you think? :)

[@ArtIsRight]

Big Jump for air! Either one will do fine!

[@weweweLit]

YES thanks for showing the pro chips instead of maxes!

[@ArtIsRight]

all of them really!

[@am0el3a]

So glad for compare m1 vs m3

[@ArtIsRight]

:)

[@johnpeterka8355]

Thank you for your thorough review and video! Out of curiosity, did you use equivalent 5K monitors with the Mac Mini's in your tests? If not, would lower resolution displays not have a lower demand on the GPU and possibly distort the results? I would think that a 3840 x 2160 (4K) monitor would be less demanding that a 5120 x 2880 (5K) monitor. What are your thoughts?

[@ArtIsRight]

Display resolution does not matter much in this case, what most forgot is that these new Apple silicon all comes with a display - co processors aka the display engine that takes a lot of the scaling heaving weight lifting load from the GPU

[@johnpeterka8355]

@@ArtIsRight Thank you!

[@KLopez24]

This just reaffirms my shopping for an M1 Pro as my first Mac from Windows. 32gb and 2tb is my goal now but harder to find. For someone who wants to save $ but improve my photography workflow, I think the M1 Pro is my best route.

[@ArtIsRight]

Sensible

[@chromaticvisuelle]

The amount of work done is just insane. Do you ever sleep? How did you manage to run all those tests on so many computers! A BiG thank you!

[@ArtIsRight]

That is the issue right now, I do want more sleep.

[@chromaticvisuelle]

@@ArtIsRight Please do! Health first, people can wait 😁

[@midasvancerer]

Going to sub for this monthly thing just to say thanks 🙏 I’ve been following your testing and copying it during the new m3 launch. I’ve come to the conclusion that RAM is king for my cases and would say, 1. Get Apple silicone of any kind 2. Get 64GB ram 3. Consider a pro chip for external displays However I’m not sure of you have an older video explaining the tests but for photoshop huge and some of the 1:1 view tests I’m not sure exactly what you are doing. I imported 15GB worth of processed DNG files to Lightroom AND photoshop as layers and my results are miles away from yours so I’m a bit confused. Thanks for the hard work and I hope you enjoy testing over the next few days. I still have a Mac with 64GB coming which is exciting

[@ArtIsRight]

Somewhat, I might do a supplemental video explaining the process, we'll see. But most of these are just part of the workflow.

[@Darth-TBAG]

Very detailed and informative… I’m planning to get an M3 14 model but I saw a refurbished M1 Pro 14 at a slightly cheaper price. Both are similarly specced with 16gb RAM and 1TB SSD storage. The only difference is the M3 (non pro) chip vs the M1 Pro chip. Which model should I go for? I am primarily a wedding photographer and often export thousands of photos at a time

[@ArtIsRight]

M1 Pro, video on this will come tomorrow, Pro is still a better all around SoC

[@steven871]

Great video , Art. A Suggestion to further differentiate your great videos: Add a column on left side with the current price of each machine as configured (in today's prices included refurbished or sales, Woot ) The prices and configurations vary wildly. Better yet - Create comparison charts sorting least to most expensive with speed results or create a "Speed or speed difference per dollar". All would be constructive. The M1 generation goes on deep discount nearly every other week if you know where to look and is by far the best bang for the buck for photo editing. A touch slower for video edits, but I'd rather put the money towards better lenses than a faster machine!

[@ArtIsRight]

I'll have to look into this, fantastic idea!

[@harshpatel105]

Good work. Bro has done PhD on this topic!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks!

[@firstclassfish01]

@artisright love your channel. I’m looking at refurbs. Comparing M2Max Studio and M2Pro Mini. In your older tests the Max was significantly better than the Pro in a lot of tests. Here, even the M2Pro with half the ram is often right there with the Max, leaving me confused as to what to choose. I assign the M2Pro got optimized at some point? Maybe the Max never will or can’t get much better. I’m also noticing other anomalies in the tests that seem like they just aren’t going to get around to optimize some machines. Is the pro that close to the Max? Still hard to tell with different ram amounts where the pro does sometimes drop down in this test video. Thanks

[@ArtIsRight]

Pro price is within a striking distance of the max, I would just choose the max

[@firstclassfish01]

@@ArtIsRight thanks!

[@carageaalexandru9293]

amazing comparison ... really separates from other benchmarks nonsense that you can see everywhere nowadays.

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you!

[@carolina.mariia]

Hey ! such great clear manner you talk thank you:) do you have any test with the pro configurations m2 pro 10cpu 16gpu vs m3 pro 11/14 ?:) OR m2 pro12/19 with m3 pro 11/14 ? i’m genuinely considering these and im super confused after watching so many videos :( i would highly greatly appreciate any help 🙏🏼

[@ArtIsRight]

Unless they are in my latest video no. But I would venture they are close.

[@carolina.mariia]

@@ArtIsRight thank you !🙏🏼 yess seems to me like .. now the price difference is only ~ 40~50 € bc of some deals where i am and originally this m2 was ~300 more that makes me think maybe it’s slightly better machine. but also i recon m3 wasn’t there yet so i don’t know which one would perform better ~ photo , video, some 3d models work.. and nobody made such test :( hmm based on what you already know and experience which would you lean towards ? Any help is so greatly appreciated!

[@ArtIsRight]

The data that you're looking for is in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foSXd5Sllp5pgdU They are about the same within the margin or errors. Some test ones come out ahead and the others but they are so close,

[@carolina.mariia]

@@ArtIsRight oh wow that’s unexpected , so would you say getting the base m2 pro would be better ? i actually was mistaken here writting bc i actually meant M2 Pro 12/19 vs M3 Pro 11/16 they are more less same price and i suspect here m2 pro would come a bit better although i don’t know , it’s all just now 2000 m2 pro base vs 2300 m2p higher or m3P 11/14 we are speaking and this decision i’m stuck with right now

[@timk8258]

Would love to see a test where you sync a set of AI masks (subject, background, skin, etc) across a large number of photos. I have an M1 Max MBP w/64gb and as a wedding photographer I have to do this often and it’s the biggest bottleneck in my LR workflow. Well that, and then moving from one image to the next if I need to tweak the results. Would be great to test that as well because it’s always been frustratingly slow in LR for as long as I can remember.

[@ArtIsRight]

I have done this numerous times on my M2 Ultra, it is a drag there too.

[@dwaynejeremiah4716]

Hi can I have your thoughts on 16ich M3 Max, stock variant. For heavy photoshop and lightroom

[@ArtIsRight]

Good

[@ArtIsRight]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zqq9gqOYhseBb9k

[@nowayjose3300]

As always, your analyzes are the best on KZbin. If you use Photoshop, Lightroom, DXO Nik, and Topaz Lab you need a lot of Ram, Ram & more Ram. The best setup for photographers would be Apple M3 Pro chip with 11-core CPU, 14-core GPU 16-core Neural Engine 36GB unified memory & 512GB SSD storage.

[@JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls]

Asking Art Primarily AND Jose Then would this be a Good Setup for Photographer using Lightroom and some Adobe PS, Topaz etc. Apple M3 Pro chip with 12‑core CPU, 18‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine 36GB unified memory 512GB SSD storage 16-inch Liquid Retina XDR display²

[@ArtIsRight]

@nowayjose3300 Totally, I agree!

[@ArtIsRight]

@JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls I might recommend looking at previous generation M2 either new on clearance or refurb

[@JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls]

Art I am now confused and it may be me. What’s the difference with Jose asked versus my request and you said his was spot on with me I should go for an older model?

[@PersonSuit]

First off, great video and information. I am not sure if Adobe does this, but I know with Apples "Pro" apps they seem to leverage the P-cores exclusively. Seeing many results where the performance scaling on the Pro vs Max is pretty much a direct scaling with the amount of P-cores they have. This has lead to some interesting performance differences when comparing the M2 Pro vs the M3 Pro since it has 2 more P cores. It's really kinda disappointing how so many developers, including Apple themselves do not properly utilize the E-cores for their apps. I am sure it's going to cause all sorts of problems trying to utilize two difference types of cores, but with Intel and Apple going now into 3 years of this type of core configuration, I really wish we could see some more positive movement with E-Core support.

[@ArtIsRight]

Totally agree and Adobe is about the same in many sense. Optimization is a costly affair and the end result is no shiny features to sell to new customers :)

[@WAPhoto]

Is the M3 Pro chip limited by it's 6 performance 6 efficiency cores? Looking forward to the Max comparisons

[@ArtIsRight]

Possibly. Max coming 8 am PST tomorrow

[@ShuopengLiao]

謝謝！

[@Louis87777]

Thank you what must be they best comparison video out there at this stage. I am curious how you expect AI masks in LR to fare in comparison: it’s standard now to apply presets with AI masking on sclera to clothing etc in event / wedding photography. Applied to 250-500 at a time, I wonder which of your existing tests may capture such a scenario best

[@ArtIsRight]

AI masking is even slow on my Ultra, I might have to devise that test. Let's see what I come up with. If you have any specific ideas dm me.

[@danmckee4988]

Very, very informative Art! Really looking forward to the M1, M2, M3 Max comparisons. I'm in the research stage right now and I'm leaning towards an M! Max with 64GB, 1TB ssd if I can find a new one that I can get a Apple warranty. I bought a M2 Pro, 64GB, 1TB ssd when they can out in this past January and after doing the same workflow I do on my Intel MBP (I9, 32GB, 1TB, 5600 graphics card), I returned the M2 because the overall amount of time saved wasn't significant enough to justify the price of the M2 Pro, maybe the MAX would be? So, that's why I'm leaning towards a M1 Max with 64GB.

[@ArtIsRight]

That video is coming tomorrow! Something to consider as well is to buy refurbished from Apple, I got plenty of machine that way and they are great quality and value. You can even add Apple Care + if you want. And yes Max will be much faster especially with the M3 gen!

[@danmckee4988]

Thanks Art! I looked at the Apple refurbished and they do have a few M1’s, 64GB, 4TB SSD. I found one with one of the online retailers for quite a bit less, 64GB, 2TB SSD, so I’m checking with them to verify the M1 Max is brand new and if does have at least a one year Apple warranty. So, now I’m really leaning towards the M1 because my workflow is about 50% for HDR/Pano merge and single photos and I don’t export files from LRC. I mostly work in LRC and finish up the editing and save the “Keepers” in PS, just a few files at a time. I’ve taken the data from your most recent videos on the M1-M3, plus ones from about 2 years ago so I can compare the Intel MBP and put them into a spreadsheet, plus some testing on my Intel MBP. So, again, your videos are the BEST and closest testing data for my workflow in LRC and PS! It’s been great to figure out what works for me and not just “guess” what MBP I need to purchase, thanks! @@ArtIsRight

[@ArtIsRight]

That you!

[@eyetronic1]

I am looking forward to your M3 Max 128GB review. I am currently on the M1 Max 64GB and would like to know if this upgrade makes sense in regards of LR HDR panorama merge. If the M3 Max can cut the time in half this would be significant for my own workflow.

[@ArtIsRight]

For that task, not really. I would look at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGWoiHxvn8ihiZI to get some idea.

[@raaashee]

This is such a great review! So in-depth! Thank you so much for this 🤍

[@ArtIsRight]

You're so welcome!

[@vinaykandul3599]

what is the best recommendation if coming from intel i7 9th gen, Is M3 pro good for photography or m2 pro would be good.

[@ArtIsRight]

Go with any. "M" SoC Pro or above

[@Pestodmd]

I have a 16" M1 MBPro with 16GB ram and I will be doing more 3D (work and hobby) and After Effects. I'm thinking of going for the 16" MBP M3 Max with 64 GB ram. Any thoughts?

[@DCuerpoJr]

That makes sense as the M3 series SOCs have built-in raytracing which will be beneficial for 3D graphics and shading effects.

[@ArtIsRight]

M3 Max is impressive, test coming out 11/9 - 8 am PST

[@brightboxstudio]

Lots of memory benefits After Effects more than other Adobe apps, especially for cached previewing of the timeline. The more memory you have, the more preview frames can be stored in memory for real time playback. I use a 32GB M1 Pro and it’s usually perfect in other apps, but watching memory usage, if I did a lot more After Effects work I would get at least 64GB.

[@john26razor340]

Respect

[@ArtIsRight]

thank you!

[@marianilie7321]

Ai noise test, finaly 🤟

[@ArtIsRight]

😁

[@kuau714]

It’s clear to me for us LRC users only marginal gains is realized with the latest hardware telling us LRC for all intensive purposes needs to be completely re written though the problem is Adobe already has done this with LRCC which really seems to run well on current hardware and Adobe wants there users to all go for the cloud and pay there very high storage rates Oh yeah Capture One is also based on old code and all they have been doing is adding new features

[@ArtIsRight]

Somewhat, LRC engine can be updated independently of the core app. Same with the export engine, we have seen this faster before. I hear you and between Adobe and C1 we are between a rock and a hard place.

[@dezaremos5944]

Can you help me deciding which one to get ?? Brandnew 14 M3 Pro 18gb for 2000usd, Used 14 M1 Pro 32gb for 1400usd or Brand new Legion Slim 5i 1700usd .. Gonna be using it more with Lightroom Classic .. Does the Razer’s performance more less equals the Legion 5 since they both have Intel 13th Gen ?? I’m surprise the M1 Pro stacks up against the M3 Pro ..

[@ArtIsRight]

If you can get a great deal on the M1 Pro, I would go with that and more RAM. Don't bother with PC

[@mrt.7146]

Phew - finally, now I can stop "F5"-ing youtube for this video to drop 😂

[@ArtIsRight]

lol, thank you! you made my day!

[@ArtIsRight]

stay turned 8 am tomorrow PST

[@maxxrogers3601]

Hi.. i could do with some advise. i have a 2017 MacBook pro which i use for light lightroom use mainly. i was thinking of upgrading to a refurbed 14inch M2 Pro with 32gb Ram or the newer 14inch M3 pro with 18gb ram. both around £2000. i’m really confused, cos i watched some videos saying the M3 isn’t up to the mark but going by this video it seems like it is. However id like your help with the two choices. i was thinking M3 then M2 now i’m thinking M3 again! like i said im a light user of lightroom and will use it for general family use as well. Thanks in advance.

[@ArtIsRight]

I would Go M2 with more RAM.

[@maxxrajj4540]

Thank you.. :-)

[@creativegreatsvisuals]

for h.265 and adobe after effects, it seems as thought the 14 inch m2 MacBook Pro 12/30 32gb 1tb is the best bang for the buck of all the laptops if im not mistaken ?

[@ArtIsRight]

yup

[@creativegreatsvisuals]

@@ArtIsRight but the m2 12/30 is a pro max not a pro im confused

[@ArtIsRight]

AE does not use encoder decoder engine, so it does not matter max or not. If you use other linear editing program max is the way to go

[@ROGALSKITOMASZ]

I'd love to see MBP14 M3 16gb versus MBP14 M2PRO 16gb comparison. So basically base m3 versus m2 pro with same amount of ram and ssd.

[@ArtIsRight]

That is up coming, I'm only releasing 1 video / per day, so that is slated for Friday.

[@ROGALSKITOMASZ]

@@ArtIsRight that's awesome, you're the best 🔥