Magnus Carlsen Jeans Scandal | Full Story

[@Milan_N13]

If Hikaru wears jeans tomorrow it will be the greatest moment in chess history.

[@BlackbeardKNAC]

No way possible, Hikaru is a bootlicker, there is no reality where he has the balls.

[@KP_100]

If Hikaru loses next game badly he will go and wear a 👖 for sure.but very less likely he will lose

[@ankitsonariya918]

He should come in jeans for the final round and take the 200 dollars fine

[@wattersonjames6790]

Sure it will be 😂😂😂

[@Aryan-ni4nk]

Funny because he was wearing it today and wasn't penalized

[@combativeflosser1009]

I agree with FIDE’s decision. Carlson is too sexy in jeans and this distracts his opponents, giving him an unfair advantage.

[@Jarretman]

😂😂😂

[@420survivorstudios4]

This the one right here

[@henriquefolc]

Lol 😂😂😂😂

[@daryarioux9394]

Agreed !🤩

[@synchronium24]

@@Jarretman Did not expect to see you here!

[@ijsammy1146]

THEY SACRIFICED THE SPONSORSSSSS

[@loneranterism]

Google sponsored the world championship without Magnus. The eyeballs are in India and China. They don't care about Magnus and his fragile ego

[@Steph756p]

And Magnus sacrificed his audience. 😂

[@ninjiwe1109]

​@@Steph756pNah people r there for Magnus, not fide. Not many people will support fide over magnus

[@andresrincon7240]

@@Steph756pf id iot the audience is watching magnus not fide that’s the huge difference

[@nsyoutubemedia]

Cricket is world's second biggest sport, only with Indian audience. If chess is popular in india, it can sustain just because of this. I've seen magnus sponsored by random indian t0bacco company. And mega conglomerates like tata and mahindra already interests in chess.

[@stav1919]

After all this FIDE drama, I’m just waiting for the jeans endorsements to roll in: ‘Checkmate your style-Magnus-approved denim.’ Carlsen wins!

[@EEEEEEEE]

‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E

[@sidawan9297]

You aint gonna belive it. But Take Take Take sold out jeans.

[@vedantharwani9278]

Imagine Magnus gets sponsored by Levi with levy.

[@jtidema]

@@vedantharwani9278 That's the comment I was looking for.

[@Omanjack]

Your joke has came to reality

[@ieorlich]

imagine if all of them go in jeans tomorrow!

[@MrRaindog]

Imagine if all of them except one player goes in jeans and that one guy wins by default.

[@assaqwwq]

Imagine standing up for a white millionaire while this rule has been used to oppress women and minorities for centuries

[@loneranterism]

Stop dreaming about a revolution...it ain't happening

[@TokuHero326]

Fide should change the rule to make Players wear jeans now 😂 In order to make Magnus back 🗿

[@golanheights9000]

A lot of them would lose the support of the people paying for their rooms and their flights home.

[@SC2spanjel]

I think the FIDE CEOs shirt looks kinda shabby tbh, maybe he should not be allowed on the premises.

[@eyeofhorus1301]

I hate this guy seems like a total slimeball

[@justafriend13]

Magnus and Hikaru should just stream a long battle royale over the next few days. Everyone would watch it. Everyone would love it. And Chess would go on.

[@iridium8341]

Be boring after a few games. Same can be said about any 2 players in any sport. Carlsen doesn't have as much clout as he thinks, just like Kasparov. This is just entertainment, not essential.

[@pianojonathan]

@@iridium8341Magnus revived interest in chess and raised it into pop culture globally. Nobody gave or gives a fuck about fide

[@czento9302]

Well to say truth, this time both of them would lose the tournament but still if they starter streaming now again normal championship streams it would be propably huge

[@avirup1234]

@@pianojonathan Nobody will give a fuck about Magnus 2 years down the line of inactivity. His ego is not above the rules set which he agreed to abide by Before the match began.

[@AndersRosendalBJJ]

@@iridium8341 I'd watch that before watching fide pants championship.

[@楊學翰-m5i]

So many individuals are working so hard to modernize chess. Live streaming and commentary, the TAKE TAKE TAKE app, and lots of YT recaps that cater to all players with different strengths. Meanwhile FIDE with their elitist ideals is still stuck in the past and shooting themselves in the leg. Please I want to watch Magnus play. I can’t care less about what he’s wearing.

[@davidfleb]

This is Magnus' fault, he can play today if he wants to he chose to quit. Just as he chose to violate the dress code which he knew about

[@tuxsharx]

Exactly your point! So many people working hard. Fans following the event for magnus and what does he do? He doesn't comply with the rules. Why so? Also fide cannot change rule for 1 player even if he is magnus. It would've been unfair to ian if they would've allowed magnus to play without changing. It just goes to show that magnus took it in a wrong way instead of complying so it's definitely a sad day for chess and for the fans

[@thenameless7810]

I think it is just the final straw with Magnus Carlson, Fide threatens the top players to choose Fide or Freestyle Chess.

[@christopherpaul4698]

​@@davidfleb Please don't be Stupid like FIDE . Deciding the winner of Classical Chess by Blitz tie breaker is total *** ****

[@sdragon28]

@@davidfleb Did you even watch the whole video or just the headline? FIDE is harassing players to not play the Freestyle events. And yes rules are rules. But FIDE can bend them, which they did in the past.

[@pting66]

Jeans are considered business casual in the corporate world. FIDE messed up when chess continues to struggle to break into more main stream audiences

[@assaqwwq]

Oh brother... You're telling me that genius chess boy doesn't know what he can wear or not? What does the corporate world of America have to do with what people can and can not wear in chess?? Why is chess still enforcing sexist and racist rules across the entire planet???

[@BillyBall35]

Exactly. We (yk, the audience who give FIDE money, especially since they -don't- _can't_ get any sponsorships) know what's up. FIDE has a very lengthy history of treating the players very poorly. Chess is better off without them. Let Freestyle become the main Chess corporation. Magnus got them into esports with the biggest prize in Chess history. FIDE can't get any sort of sponsors whatsoever.

[@sherryw1919]

Yep, they need to get over themselves & join modern day norms vs alienating thee most captivating player. He was already annoyed w/their monopoly-forming moves so this was a stupid move on their part fs. I see a standing FU to FIDE from Magnus coming soon. (They'll regret it.)

[@sudhanshupandey6246]

I hate Wearing shirts and Very much prefer T-shirts without collar.. So I can't participate in Fide Games??? .. dang, Can't believe my journey to becoming World champion ended this early

[@Templercz]

@@sudhanshupandey6246 hey man don't play stupid, t-shirts aren't really a formal wear 😀i would never wear a t-shirt to a business meeting or a court, would you? Jeans are fine, we all know that.

[@Polarmusic-x5i]

Imagine kicking out the best player of the most popular board game ever for wearing a normal trousers.

[@merekem4635]

I hope a lot more grandmasters will go against FIDE.

[@loneranterism]

No revolution is happening 😂

[@sumanraj9394]

You can only hope cause it aint happening Not everyone has unlimited money like magnus or has achieved everything under the sun to say f u to fide

[@BillyBall35]

​@@loneranterism Remember that it already has when Kasporov and Short became fed up with FIDE. Hikaru is right there alongside Magnus with thr Freestyle stuff. Several other players will follow suit now that Magnus has had his final straw with them

[@Kumar-cg9gv]

What's the problem in following rules they agreed to for this tournament

[@Sough]

But it went nowhere ultimately and even Garry regretted it​@@BillyBall35

[@zakitechent]

I'm with Magnus on this. Those players are playing chess. We the spectators are watching chess. Nobody gives a damn about what pants the players wear, unless you are FIDE.

[@NoleFener]

I'm with Magnus on this too. also it's understandable that tournaments can have dress codes. eg. Wimbledon. Fide should just say: fine you wore it today we are not making the situation bigger, but please don't come with jeans tomorrow. it was this easy

[@Ligatmarping]

@@NoleFener also Tennis is a "TV sport", but chess is followed by watching the boards. They could be naked and the spectators wouldnt care.

[@michelmichelem]

chess is considered a sport. if you think about taking the field without respecting the rules you will be eliminated. Happy to keep watching the competition without carlsen.

[@pedronanton443]

@@NoleFener as far as i know magnus asked if he can change it TOMORROW and he got said he must change it NOW or not?

[@ArranVid]

@@michelmichelem Chess isn't a sport anyway, it's a board game. I don't care what some officials say. Chess, darts and snooker are games, not sports. Also, Magnus was correct on this issue.

[@Ultrarooster33]

I can’t wait to watch the Freestyle Chess World Championship to see who the freestyle world champion is.

[@FahimHoq]

The defending champion is Hikaru Nakamura

[@thekurdishtapes8317]

Will jeans be the mandatory attire?

[@achuthanb248]

Freestyle world championship deserves freestyle clothing.

[@plwadodveeefdv]

​@@thekurdishtapes8317 jeans and opening themed t-shirts

[@gokulhemanthkumar4556]

@@FahimHoq Magnus won the Freestyle Chess G.O.A.T. Challenge 2024. So who is the defending champion is debatable.

[@uzmanpsikologortacikizler3763]

How can a shirt with 7386 logos on it is more appropriate and formal than a simple sweater or jean? They literally say outfit at 9:10 is more acceptable than Ian's sweater at 9:40 and I think they are doing this on purpose to milk these geniuses and monetize their fame with drama they deliberately create.

[@PAK-qr5we]

Exactly, those sponsor shirts look absolutely clown attire. But since they create revenue then it's OK for the business driven whores of the system.

[@OmateYayami]

Exactly... the dress code rules are vague and up to interpretation for arbiters. They deem that Hikaru and Duda look fine while Ian and Magnus violate the dress code. It's simply ridiculous. This is not to go against Duda or Hikaru, but the inconsistency and motivation is making FIDE look absurd.

[@JudyMitchell-f6b]

FIDE blew it big time. We bring one of the most prestigious chess tournaments to the Big Apple and the most memorable and ridiculed event will be FIDE penalizing arguably the best player ever because he wore a pair of jeans! OMG! This is unbearably embarrassing.

[@coolcat23]

Embarrassing because an experienced chess player does not respect the dress code and is too jaded to make an effort when asked to comply? I like Carlsen, but he is hurting the sport by making it a "matter of principles". What "principle" die he uphold here? "I shall not be asked to comply to rules."?

[@anuraglamichhane1733]

​@@coolcat23 First of all "dress code" is not that big a deal that the GOAT of the game has to be "kicked" out. He was fined, be payed the fine and said would change the next day. Wasn't as if he was naked or in a hip-hop outfit either. Your mind is lost just like FIDE's

[@georgex9121]

​@coolcat23 there are levels to this and as he said in his comments he was just fed up with them. People make mistakes and in this case he made a mistake. If he worse something offensive or a pink kangaroo uniform then I'd understand why they'd need to forbid him from competing. But his attire was not offensive. Give him a fine and a warning for a larger fine and life goes on. Instead this has been a major blow to chess and FIDE blew it out of proportion. Like it or not, Magnus is a celebrity and is a major luminary of the sport. The chief arbitrer was taking photos of players with his phone and sending them to his boss in Egypt to get an approval? They are insufferable fools.

[@sadanandayumkhaibam9306]

Rule is rule . Everyone should abide by it.

[@markjuhasz2803]

But my dear friend if a rule is written and an arbiter is there there is no room left for considerations. It is not a commity/fide decision. It were Magnus wrongdoing and wrong decision. I blame her for being childish and his talent is just thrown away because of nothing.

[@rukysajere8519]

It’s official, I’m no longer watching the rest of the tournament

[@aseq2]

oh wow, this is going to make headlines. are you really not watching the rest?

[@iceprincess819]

Same! I was only watching because of Magnus. I only started getting into chess recently and was inspired to try chess because of him. I really enjoyed watching the Champions Chess Tour where Magnus won. Now this happens 😢

[@Too_cool2000]

Same here

[@jtidema]

Yeah, I watch mainly because of Magnus. I was disappointed he wasn't in the WCC but had high hopes here.

[@AndersRosendalBJJ]

@@aseq2 Mostly indians watching now

[@dyer308]

Fide and their usual 🤡 behavior

[@coolcat23]

This is about "Carlsen behaviour" not "FIDE behaviour". Carlsen knew the dress code and the arbiter (not FIDE directly) enforced it. Nothing to be seen except Carlsen not wanting to respect the dress code.

[@schlechtgut8349]

They forced Ian to change so did the same to Magnus. It's fair

[@iridium8341]

Not Really. It's just the beginning of end for Magnus. He didn't want to keep losing games so found a way to wriggle his way out. Typical!

[@schlechtgut8349]

@@iridium8341 Don't agree with the firs half. It's just one tournament but it's definitely wrong. He is still the favourite in blitz. Tantrum

[@MimeLau-uz2oh]

@@iridium8341 The beginning of the end 😂😂 He won 12 tournaments this year for 14 participations i think. 2nd when he doesn't win. Did an absolute Masterclass at TataSteel in India both blitz and Rapid and CCT last week, where might be your idol, always in Magnus shadow. You suffer for almost 15 years ! 1st rating in blitz, rapid and classical still ! By miles ! The others can barely win when Magnus is here, it's a fact. Take pills !

[@DK-pn8bd]

Nepo made a good point about how it's weird how at a chess event what is being talked about is fashion and not chess. If the top chess players made an alternative to FIDE, they would know how it should be regulated and I bet you it would surpass FIDE.

[@jana-e8f]

Yeah, well the problem might be that top chess players want to play chess and not do tedious organizations.

[@masondegaulle5731]

@@jana-e8f ...so they *would* leave the exhaustively tedious organization that is FIDE, is what you're saying. When the giants of Chess are all grumbling about constant pointless time tweaks and varying levels of adherence to out-of-touch rules, sounds to me like FIDE is steadfastly moving in the wrong direction.

[@saltbutsport]

Lol it would be a clusterfuck like it was when Kasparov tried it. FIDE's value is not mainly for top level chess but it's for the infrastructure they already have in place across the world to organise lower level tournaments. And in order to grow the game you need those tournaments so that younger players can rise up the ranks. The thing is what is good for Magnus and Hikaru and what is good for chess at large isn't a perfect circle. They claim their motive is to promote chess but in reality the only thing they want to promote is their own bank balances.

[@fep_ptcp883]

We've seen that movie before

[@jupiterapollo4985]

@@jana-e8f Top chess players want to play chess and make money. How are they expecting to make money and win championships without organisations... If you don't join said organisations you're no better than a chess hustler. Someone like Magnus who has won it all and has a sh*t load of money doesn't need to give a crap about this stuff anymore. Players really need to think about their future and stop following the antics of someone who lives a completely different life to them. It will not end well...

[@sangrishs9265]

Demn when magnus was listing his rivals for each tourney, he shd have mentioned FIDE xD

[@Markyietsu2]

Yes good point 😂😂

[@TofuLoverz]

Nah that's not rival but just like an annoying shit system with law and rule nerd that he needs to face each time he wants to enjoy chess with great players

[@Matsanovic]

The rules state: "In general, jeans are not allowed," which implies that there are exceptions. Carlsen was dressed very well. It's a shame that such a harsh punishment was imposed.

[@eyeofhorus1301]

Wow thats a new layer I wasn't aware of, also did you know in FIDES own rules the dresscode states jeans are allowed?

[@bradallen1762]

That’s like the rules stating you can’t wear a blue shirt…. Really wtf cares? Like it has nothing to do with fair play… I’m with Magnus, F em

[@hughJ]

Seems ridiculous to worry about jeans if they're not required to brush their hair.

[@alekhinesgun9997]

Next they'll have mandatory showers and cologne.

[@RadioBlauknecht]

I am sorry. We are after the Sexual Revolution and after the 68s and not before it. peace and happiness. ^^

[@Bakujin619]

FIDE complaining that the players don't want to do press interviews or side events for free really shows their hand here. They really want players to sit down, shut up and dance around for FIDE with no real compensation. If FIDE wants chess to be a 'real sport' then it needs to treat the players like 'real' athletes.

[@ashkiin8493]

Tbf in other sports you are expected to do the appropriate media as well, it is part of the job

[@crissanchez4326]

🙌🏻

[@thebiglebrowski3695]

@@ashkiin8493 In other sports the players are salaried. The media duties are part of why they get compensated. Chess players are not compensated by FIDE.

[@liumahir]

Best comment here👏👏

[@Updog89]

@@ashkiin8493They definitely don’t have to wear “business casual” to compete or do press in most other sports, though. They usually wear something that allows them to feel comfortable and play well. And players get to show a lot more individuality in their fashion in the most popular sports!

[@peacefullyforever]

Bobby would wear jeans to every FIDE tournament if this was the case and dare them to disqualify him. This is not about chess anymore. It’s about arrogance and dominance.

[@Reversely]

You know something is wrong when Magnus, Hikaru, and Kramnik is agreeing on something😂

[@EEEEEEEE]

E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

[@marcel13091975]

Fisher also didn't seem to be a fan of FIDE

[@Pre4xes_]

@@marcel13091975Gary also

[@roryasrorri701]

​@@marcel13091975 Kasparov: *hehehe*

[@sharpnova2]

ever heard of a guy named kasparov?

[@onelove154]

What a stupid rule. FIDE have been fucking up chess for a long time. All the way back to the days of Bobby Fischer and even earlier than him. FIDE has been corrupt since the days of Botvinnik. A new sensible organisation needs to take over chess. FIDE has been crap for decades.

[@prateekc7804]

No jeans means no, what magnus wearing yesterday now why suddenly wearing jeans😂😂😂😂

[@alekhinesgun9997]

@@prateekc7804 FIDE rules: "Jeans are generally not considered acceptable". Stupid rule. Who determines generally? Also players in the past have worn dress shoes and FIDE fined them for being running shoes, see Anna-Maja's tweet. Also what a ridiculous rule to begin with? Why can't you play chess in comfortable semi-formal attire? There's literally no reason to back this archaic bs

[@prateekc7804]

@@alekhinesgun9997 it's already mentioned, it's nothing new, if you want to participate follow the rules, is that much complicated for the players to understand the dress code

[@cqaqa]

Magnus is such a sore loser

[@alekhinesgun9997]

@@prateekc7804 You saying "it's already mentioned" doesn't add any clarity whatsoever. You addressed nothing. The only thing you're correct in saying is that it's nothing new, that only means that they won't change unless theres unrest and a reason to change.

[@dr.floridamanphd]

So anyone playing under the FIDE banner cannot compete in any outside events labeled as a world championship? FIDE doesn’t own the rights to “world champion.” That’s some high level arrogance on FIDE’s part.

[@jarlhenrik]

Gives vibes of The Fine Bros trying to trademark "React" on KZbin some years ago. Just because someone is the biggest supplier of a type of content doesn’t give them ruling powers of said content..

[@dr.floridamanphd]

@ I’m going to guess you meant to say “doesn’t give them...” And I agree. Being the “industry standard” doesn’t give them authority over what others can call their championship tournaments. It would be one thing if they were calling it the World Chess Championship which I do believe is owned by FIDE but I could be wrong. But if Magnus and some of the super GMs decide to form the Professional Chess Federation (with a nod to Kasparov’s defunct Professional Chess Association) and bill their major tournament as the PCF World Championship then that’s completely copacetic. It’s kind of like the PGA telling golfers that if they play for the upstart LIV golf organization that they won’t be welcomed back to PGA events which is just ridiculous and actually did happen.

[@jarlhenrik]

@@dr.floridamanphd that’s what I meant ofc, thanks :) I don’t get why these major event orgs are so scared of smaller groups holding tournaments. It’s one thing to not recognize player rankings in any league but their own, but by trying to maintain market monopoly they are just shooting themselves in the foot…

[@christopherpaul4698]

Need a competitor Federation ! Example : New Organisation called "World Boxing". Would soon replace IBA .

[@daisiesndirt]

FIDE chess mafia, someone needs to start a new chess world championship. FIDE is nothing without the players.

[@WXVA9]

A sweater is absolutely acceptable attire in an office. It wouldn't fly for, say, a lawyer in court...but neither would a polo shirt or a bunch of advertisements on your clothing.

[@adrienneclarke3953]

The FIDE rep looks sloppy. Suit with no tie or vest, and his shirt wrists looks sloppy.

[@猫会飞]

So what's your point? A sweater not flying for a lawyer in court is also an arbitrary decision. The point is, if there is a dress code in place and the players sign up to the dress code, then they should stick to it. If they don't like the dress code, then don't agree to play. If you think the dress code is unreasonable, that is a separate issue. Once you have signed up to it, you lose your right to violate it without consequence.

[@jtidema]

@@猫会飞 Where in the dress code do you see this rule? I only see a rule about TORN jeans.

[@joshuahietala5174]

@@猫会飞 If all players should follow the dress code, why is Magnus only one who got punished for not following it, even though other players were also not following it and got no punishment.

How stupid is this Fide rule. What is this boarding school for delinquents. Chess is a game of intellects. It's not comparable to tennis, that is a physical sport. The way that guy grabbed Magnus after the game like he was a cop physically encroaching Magnus. Jealous arbiters always standing on the sideline, enforcing no water on the table blah blah blah. I'm tuning out, the only reason I watch this tournament is Magnus. Well done Fide. I would jump to another ship if I were a funding sponsor.

[@moritzfranke1251]

we as the players are who FIDE should cater to, right now I feel this is a joke. I as a chess club member never was asked to vote for anybody to represent me in FIDE or my city (millions of citizens and one of the capital cities of europe). that is a major red flag, if the voting would actually be by the base of players we would not have these incompetent fools siphoning money into their pocket in the name of chess and acting entitled like they own chess. FIDE has 17 million euro budget and they only succeed in generating useless FIDE arena which is overpriced and useless compared to lichess. They could have used lichess codebase and kept it uncommercial and had a refined platform with official FIDE tournaments, instead they made a bad platform noone wants to play on. they have been useless in past years selling off commercial rights and the numerous scandals when it comes to their handling of players is well documented. they have a vice president who has called a GM a "gypsy" for wearing short pants at a tournament and made some female players cry plus cheated at the european championship by retracting a move.

[@davidconrad5718]

I understand that they don't want to be accused of applying a different set of rules to Magnus compared to everyone else but generally they just seem stuck in the past in a world where the audience expects to see players in suits looking unrelatable and the whole thing seeming very formal. They need to get beyond this because it's not the future of chess, it's the past. If they want it to grow they need to move with the times and what the contemporary audience wants to see and cares about.

[@CorvetteAustin24]

They very easily could have just applied another fine if they really wanted to do something, and just let him come back tomorrow with what they deem appropriate. FIDE screwed themselves big time.

[@NoahVM12]

@@CorvetteAustin24 he was given time until 3 rounds. Some were fined for minor violation but it was easy for them to continue as they just had to remove their sweater before next round. In this case obviously he would have to leave the venue to change pants. Fide is being quite flexible with him and actually going out of the way to accommodate his requests. Its hard to believe magnus forgot about dress code on day 2

[@sdragon28]

@@NoahVM12 You call that flexibility? And this happened in other events too.

[@NoahVM12]

@@sdragon28 yes that is flexibility in other sports you're getting disqualified at the moment even if you're usain bolt or anyone. You don't have to maintain weight or water intake in chess like other sports even then you can't wear proper attire? Isn't that arrogance if they're not in your way you run away? This was pre planned move by magnus coz he came with proper attire in first day and now this and left by saying f to fide. We know he wants to be kasparov so badly

[@neruneri]

@@NoahVM12 This is literally not even true. Michael Jordan played an entire season in his Jordans which was against the rules and what happened? He got fined for every game he played in them, but was in no way disqualified.

[@Sindamsc]

I've played chess kinda professionally from age 7 to 16, visiting tournaments around my country and etc. And I was from a pretty poor family. Chess was always good because you need a chessboard with pieces and that's it. And of course 99% of kids were wearing freaking jeans at the tournaments! Why they promote this elititism in chess now, i have zero idea.

[@adamstewart247]

Every player in the tournament should arrive tomorrow in jeans 👖 as a protest in solidarity with Magnus.

[@Smith-zc9bj]

People who losing can do that😂😂

[@abhishekkrishna8542]

Ya Hikaru probably will coz he is losing 😂

[@joaovl20]

Fide be like farming money

[@abirvaabchatterjee6439]

11:06 "for looking good" 😂😂

[@Strifezill4]

I was just about to tag that haha

[@Nadeeka-j5w]

Fide lost all things

[@hantergidi]

He left with a tantrum with accusations with hans. Now he goes out with jeans so focus is on jeans not his low performance

[@hypercubemaster2729]

​@@hantergidiCan it. This wasn't about his performance or jeans. It was about how FIDE, who is nothing but an unelected dictatorship, tried to threaten everyone who considered playing freestyle chess with a ban from FIDE events. You don't piss off the GOAT of Chess and expect to get away with it.

[@dg_20234]

​@@hantergidiyesterday Hans also came in jeans why didn't fide do anything

[@oxidizingagent2915]

Not really

[@loneranterism]

FIDE isn't losing anything. Thousands of quality players are available throughout the world.

[@manifestyourlife6]

Kramnik: "Can we do a jeans check on Danya?" 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@ryanrpg3617]

FIDE going downhill fast

[@ArranVid]

FIDE was already a bottom feeder ever since the whole Fischer-Karpov controversy.

[@moritzfranke1251]

FIDE ousting Carlsen is like if the PGA would have excluded Tiger Woods on the peak of his career from a tournament for wearing a pink shirt. Basically these people are just insane. They claim to wear "smart business" but their business decisions are the worst they could ever make.

[@ArranVid]

@@moritzfranke1251 Your Tiger Woods analogy was spot on, I completely agree with everything you said. Well said, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🙂.

[@netalvesj]

"We also have been chasing players down as well" - This sums up FIDE....

[@MaxHaydenChiz]

As someone who has officiated in sports events, I don't like the wording around jeans "generally" not being considered appropriate attire, because that puts the official in a very uncomfortable position when they are asked to enforce it. The penalty seems over the top as well. Whole thing is not a great look, but there's obviously more going om than just this.

[@therealclp]

I think the “generally” wording was just part of the explanation for why they are banned (there is something above it clearly saying “not approved”)

[@therealclp]

That being said, the explanation is incorrect and the current dress code is too strict

[@dime124]

Respect for having both sides on to discuss the issue

[@williamkamsvaag2708]

What’s the big deal man, the jeans are under the table anyway!

[@davidfleb]

What's so hard about following a dress code?

[@based8985]

@@davidflebnothing. The point is the dress code is unreasonable. It’s pretty fair to argue that Magnus’ attire is perfectly reasonable and not ‘unprofessional’.

[@davidfleb]

@@based8985 that's a separate argument. Pants are universally recognized as more formal than jeans, but even if they aren't the rules are clear and very simple to follow

[@CactusUranus]

@@davidflebJeans are considered formal dumbass especially Carlsen's jeans at that time. Nobody wants to follow a stupid rule that doesnt make sense. Chess is all about action INSIDE the board not outside wear of players.

[@adrienneclarke3953]

​@davidfleb i have seen people allowed into a casino in tracksuit pants but not jeans. True. What make jeans, jeans? Fabric or pocket style?

[@sutekking]

Seriously, this is not the Opera or the Ballet. Why not have a recommended dress code, but having compulsory dress code for a chess tournament is just silly. And a chess tournament these days without Magnus is like having bread without butter. One can almost choke on it.

[@prateekc7804]

Both fide and magnus having egos

[@davidfleb]

Magnus wanted out, it was very easy for him to change clothes he decided not to. He is harming chess for personal reasons

[@bleekcer]

@@davidfleb He is not harming chess, he is harming FIDE.

[@Markyietsu2]

I think this is a good thing for chess in general ,we need to thank Magnus for it. This way fide can open thier eyes and change some rules.

[@hypercubemaster2729]

Or they can just disappear from Chess altogether. They suck.

[@abhaysharma6987]

@@hypercubemaster2729Can you elaborate why they suck apart from this dress thing!

[@milesgreenwood5036]

Russian puppets ​@@abhaysharma6987

[@cheetah219]

How blind is Emil that if it wasn't for players like Hikaru, Magnus, and Gotham...nobody would give a shit about Fide. I never know when tournaments are if it wasn't for Levy. We are here to watch chess. Emil needs to realize 3 goats of the game, in 3 eras have had issues with how Fide runs things.

[@suitcasemurphy1220]

No MAGNUS? No HIKARU? now NOBODY CAAAARES. 😂

[@r3b0rn52]

"You" don't care.

[@hypercubemaster2729]

​@@r3b0rn52More people than you can imagine are tuning out now. FIDE sucks, and they will figure out soon enough that they're nothing without Magnus.

[@DaevorTheDevoted]

Wait, no Hikaru either?!

[@K.S07]

why no Hikaru?

[@spatnik]

Million more Indians will watch as the India Golden age begins. I'm sure Fide is quite comfortable. They got Google to sponsor without Carlsen featuring. Don't overestimate Carlsen's influence

[@shmuelmyers]

Interviewer: “Is winning chess about hard work or genetics?” Magnus: “Well it’s mainly hard work but it is also dependent on jeans.”

[@ScorpionG4merBr]

The fact that players cannot play in tournaments named "World Championship" is crazy monopolistic behaviour, I don't know if that's common practice but to me it seems so manipulative.

[@DanielArturo-r8v]

This fide CEO is an idiot.... It reminds me of a kid... He didn't deny Ghiri and Ian claims that at the bottom of the pack there are indeed players that have broken the dressing code aswell and nothing was told to them... This guy's answer? The top players have more responsibilities?? Because they are on camera??? Im sorry mate, but this looks like a witch hunt... I bet he feels good about what just happened.

[@ArranVid]

Well said

[@therealclp]

He literally said “that is not true” when he was told about Giri and Ian’s claims. Do I believe him? I’m not sure

[@thabangditlhabi]

Clown behaviour, FIDE monopoly is going down and they are salty about it

[@gokulhemanthkumar4556]

Not allowing him to participate in the last round is a step too far. Magnus' actions are definitely not defendable, as Ian did indeed conform to the rules and Magnus didn't. But to not allow people to participate due to this? Bruh. He should have just been penalized in some form after the fact. Such trivialities should never affect the games, ever.

[@jtidema]

He was penalized by being fined, there was no reason to have him ALSO change.

[@krishnamoorthymurugan3560]

Magnus not playing will be more of a loss to FIDE than to him.

[@moritzfranke1251]

FIDE makes 75% of their income from selling the top tournaments. These old grumpy out of touch and totally unprofessional fools think they can take advantage from the top players without any repercussions will be their downfall. if i was magnus i would just create a player association and create my own tournament cycle with a player association instead of some pseudo elected entity like FIDE where I who was many years a chessclub member was not once asked to vote for anybody to represent me.

[@jimmykoh2602]

I believe "dress code" is just the tip of the iceberg.. There is more in it than meet the eyes.. First it was Magnus Carlsen refusing to defend his World Champion title with classical format of chess.. Then there is freestyle chess thing, which FIDE did not see eye to eye with.. Now both sides are not backing down.. I believe this will be the end of the relationship between Magnus Carlsen and FIDE..

[@bosorot]

Why ? Dinosaur extinction : Asteroid FIDE extinction: Jean

[@loneranterism]

Garry Kasparov thought similarly...he's cooling his heals now😂

[@plwadodveeefdv]

​@@loneranterismeasy way for him to win in the end. Magnus and Garry Chess alliance

[@trondellingmichalsen4957]

Fide is a disgrace, having a dress code in the first place and then handling this like this.

[@alexchan3287]

The truth is Magnus dressed classier than almost anyone appeared in the video.

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

I wonder whats more important for tournament viewers (and therefore sponsors): a) Participating best player in the world, possibly of all time; b) participants adhering to FIDE dress code.

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

FIDE is upset the most dominant chess player of the current era, doesn’t want to play the classic world championship. This is where it all stems from, they refuse to open their minds to change.

[@Freestyle80]

Massive shoutout to you Take Take Take guys, you are making chess far more digestible like for whoevver didnt catch the whole stream now has an idea what happened throughout the day.

[@pias-04]

No don't say this 😭😭 the saddest intro ever.

[@Hatoria]

Arguably one of the more attractive chess players being kicked either because he didn't look good enough for their standards or because they were jealous he was rocking those jeans like a rockstar.

[@moritzfranke1251]

100% true. the organizers look like some hobos even in suits while the top players get bullied because they are simply envious. they are not "always on players side" they are acting entitled af while they make 75% of their money from selling top player tournaments. top players should start player association, sell their top tourneys themselves and tell FIDE to earn their money by themselves. 100k for president travel a year lol. how about these guys go work in the private sector. nobody would hire these people in the business world. they are the worst business people in the world. FIDE website looks the same for 20+ years and is a joke. fide chess arena is like 20 years late and extremely bad - no players. arbiters regularly are super unprofessional. vice president called a GM a gypsy. FIDE needs a reality check urgently.

[@ChessFanatic24]

FIDE says you cannot call Freestyle chess a world championship. That is the problem.

[@fep_ptcp883]

Freestyle chess isn't regular chess. Just like futsal isn't soccer and beach volley isn't volleyball. It's a variant, something different from the original. But the business dudes can't let it go without a fight

[@lamarose7449]

Great coverage, I love all of these interviews and points of view. It feels like we're getting the whole story !

[@jonnyvanderhorst]

Levy being actually an great journalist, is maybe the craziest thing coming out of this whole shitshow.

[@lamadoo]

FIDE CEO's chin looking like it's got its own opening move - the Turkey Gambit!

[@luckyshotjpg]

This shall forever be known in the chess world as Jeansgate

[@ArranVid]

I thought the same thing XD like Toiletgate.

[@RedShiftedDollar]

Magnus needs to start his own organization and bring Hikaru, Levi, Hans, and all top players and personalities with him. FIDE would instantly be downgraded to minor league baseball.

[@pswright2285]

Please guys, all of you turn up in jeans tomorrow

[@sanketpunmiya7177]

If I were Hikaru, I would go tomorrow in funky shorts with a drink in my hand, Malibu style

[@Drofthechalice]

It's gonna be like this. You wanna be the best? Leave FIDE and challenge Magnus. You wanna make a living? Leave FIDE.

[@terrycox1639]

Just having a 'Bobby moment', no big deal. No one is bigger than the game itself, so let's friggin' get back to it! (A special thanks to Magnus and ALL the GMs)

[@TomFarrow-oo5wm]

I get that you don't want favouritism but jeans are acceptable attire in many professional offices, and ultimately chess (especially blitz) is a sport, players need to be comfortable. Also, I've always thought this rule just added to the elitism of chess. If you're not financially well off you're already struggling to afford to go to tournaments, it's not fair to make people dress a certain way too. Let's also add that a suit is western clothing. As we want to grow the sport globally, surely we want to be inclusive of alternative attire, the biggest growing markets for chess are India and China, players should be allowed to dress in their own country's attire if that's what they want to do.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

National dress is explicitly allowed.

[@TomFarrow-oo5wm]

@eljanrimsa5843 ah fair enough, interesting that we don't see many players in it though

[@sylwiak9249]

Magnus was fined 200 dollars and they also told him to dress like a child or they wouldn't let him play anymore. Why did they give him a fine to pay if they didn't want him to play from the beginning? He had a shirt, a jacket, elegant shoes and jeans chosen but they weren't regular jeans but more elegant ones.

[@mbrayearth3557]

Fide is really a joke

[@iceprincess819]

FIDE doesn’t want Magnus to win another World Rapid Championship. How can they expect Magnus to not withdraw from the championship if they’re going to ban him from playing Round 9? It’s gonna be very difficult to have a fighting chance to win if he is disqualified from playing a round. So obviously Magnus had no choice but to withdraw.

[@abuaduriyami]

There can be 2 world chess champion 1. Classical chess world chess champion 2. Freestyle chess world chess champion FIDE is just to stubborn

[@cippo1995]

There's already a Fischer Random World Championship.

[@jurgendurrbaum3359]

This rule is simply ridiculous. I don't know what's wrong with jeans or sneakers. Only a spitfire could get upset about something like that. 😂😂😂

[@emmbee6711]

For everyone whining about Magnus being stubborn or thinking he’s bigger than the game - It’s called taking a stand. There was nothing wrong with his attire.

[@loneranterism]

Cope better

[@Sandel99456]

Except that rule was there for a century and magnus knew it well beforehand so he decided to do this on purpose after having one of his worst performances and he decided to switch the story

[@emmbee6711]

@@Sandel99456 Yep and you should keep following antiquated silly rules like FIDE sheep

[@TheMehta23]

@@emmbee6711 that stand should have been taken by not participating in the event after reading the rules and clearly making your point that you will not participate unless the rules are changed..doing it mid of the tournament doesn’t looks good and gives a feeling that he thinks himself bigger than the game..if all other 300 odd players can wear formals then why can’t he

[@davidfleb]

Taking a stand against pants?😂 Everyone knew the dress code going in. Rules are meant to be followed. Show respect for the game

[@ashishmasurekar3095]

No one is greater than the game itself.

[@mishkat.raiyan]

Magnus angry, fans angry, Levy happy 😊

[@OsbornsConcise]

:)))))

[@PlanXV]

The milkman deliver 😂

[@vineetbhagwat4256]

Magnus is a brat. No other champion in other sports would act this way. Federer, Nadal, Joker, all respect the rules and traditions even if they think it is silly.

[@moritzfranke1251]

u never heard about agassi, mcenroe , connors - dude you are such a snowflake. going against the conventions is not being a brat, if those rules are silly. you are just being a coward by condoning stupid rules, that make zero sense. chess has never been about wearing business suits. it is a game for thinkers, not a fashion show. FIDE is money greedy and makes 75% of their income from top level chess tournaments. well - the players can easily start their own association and leave this bunch of greedy old grumpy men behind to care about the olympiad and take top level chess in their own hands and split that money instead of paying the FIDE president 100k in travel fees a year plus his salary. that is all paid for by the top chess players from whom many do not get any money from FIDE - especially the ones below the top 100. FIDE acts like they care, but in reality they are very entitled. also the election process is not democratic at all. as a chess club member i never got to vote on the representative for FIDE in my country for example. let the top players vote their own council to organize top level chess - it can only get better.

[@killakame-3434]

MAGNUS from the looks of it and the Way he threw that Mic.. i feel like Fide Arbiter must have insulted him in some way

[@cccpkingu]

He did point very aggressively towards the jeans-police office

[@ACivilBeast]

The CEO mentioned that FIDEs actions against Magnus were not meant to be draconian. I beg to differ since they didn't give Magnus the benefit of the doubt. They weren't flexible enough to let him finish out the day after they had already fined him. They wanted him to change immediately after already taking a punitive measure against him. That's draconian.

[@nawafal-mdrrk]

I don’t care what the FIDE have to say about this because forbidding wearing jeans is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen in my entire life!! I can’t believe they put it in the regulation.

[@jtidema]

Do you see it in the regulations? Because I do not.

[@PlanXV]

It's not in the regulations

[@mmarijus]

Leaders need to focus on the actual game. "You are welcome as long as you do as i say" GAME ON

[@clashenriksen961]

He's welll dressed. I don't understand the problem. Is it the textil choice and how the clothes are woven that is the problem ?

[@davidwiederman8841]

The CEO’s mistake and obvious underlying presumption as evidenced by his arguments and decisions is that he thinks chess revolves around fide, that FIDE is the nucleus of chess and it’s not. Not anymore.

[@amielz7]

Fide ceo was not using a tie. And he looks more prepotent than Magnus...

[@davidfleb]

Tie is not part of the dress code...

[@ArranVid]

@@davidfleb I don't give a shit.

[@barryispuzzled]

"It cannot be that a private organisation runs world championship independently of FIDE". But if the top ten players decide to run their own world championship you no longer control them. Just call it global championship.

[@slythespacecat]

Who needs FIDE anyway?

[@roryasrorri701]

Not the general public. We just want entertainment. We don't care about official player ratings. Fide is stuck in the past.

[@andrew_owens7680]

Magnus could make a million by creating his own line of jeans made of blackmar denim.

[@EldenKing7]

The people in chess sports are so fvcking weird ngl.😅

[@akompanas]

I don’t know, something about claiming “no one is above the law“ nowadays sounds fishy.

[@aseq2]

My first reaction was that this is a ridiculous enforcement of the rules. But hearing the arguments from the president, I can understand their stance as well. Magnus had enough time to change, he just didn't want to be told what to do by Fide. You don't change the rules on the spot because one of the favourites decides not to adhere by them.

[@jtidema]

Did you actually look at the written rule? It says no TORN jeans.

[@aseq2]

@@jtidema Those are the general rules you're referring to. "At major FIDE events, like the World Championship or FIDE World Cup, there is a strict Dress code that participants must abide by."

[@ig2d]

i honestly dont know where I stand on this one. When, however, Magnus said it was a matter of principle it would have been good to ask him what principle

[@rbrufau1]

When you place former players as leaders of the same sport, they create very harsh rules for the new players due to a sporting zeal left within them and they enjoy it by satisfying their internal envy of the players they never were and never will be.

[@harshjoshi3397]

All top 10 should wear Jeans and then we should see this man's attitude 😂

[@Jedstop]

Anybody who doesn’t believe that Magnus is smart enough to engineer this whole thing is deluded. He knew exactly what would happen.

[@jtidema]

I don't think so, since jeans actually aren't on the 'no' list, just torn jeans, but since he had the opportunity he made the best of it.

[@Jedstop]

@ Jeans are on the no list.

[@AnjelLee-f8c]

They should probably check the players before they enter the venue.

[@MichaelFJ1969]

14:33 "His general attitude towards any cooperation with FIDE". WTF does he mean with that?

[@amruth098]

Hikaru should wear pants that look like jeans but aren’t, tomorrow 😂😂

[@CamiloGaetePuga]

There is a dress code in the tournament, you are playing the tournament, follow the dress code. You don't want to comply, you are disqualified. It seems logical to me.

[@emperorsascharoni9577]

It is but there being a dress code that forbids jeans is ridiculous. Also why is it not enough to change for the next day? Leave it at a fine. If you want fine him every game but don’t affect the chess.

[@jtidema]

Did you read the dress code, or just accept what they are saying? It says no TORN jeans, not no jeans.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

@@jtidema It says no jeans.

[@bleekcer]

Fining seems logical for wearing jeans. Deleting his results from the day seems ridiculous and insane.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

@@bleekcer What are you talking about? Nobody deleted his results. He played three games on that day, and the results counted.

[@fep_ptcp883]

I hope to see tomorrow at least one player in a full formal smoking jacket, bow tie and top hat, waking with a cane and saying in interviews with english accent "I was a little afraid of being fined"