Making Pan Cyan's 100% automated!! | Set & Forget!

[@WillysWorld]

Thank you guys so much for your support!! All links are below 👇 For the exclusive content, private library, private chat community, 1on1 help, private reddit & much more! Click below 👇 www.patreon.com/willymyco Social Media links 👇 IG - instagram.com/official_ttf_willy IG - instagram.com/ttf_willy Twitter - twitter.com/willy_myco list of materials I used 👇 Bins www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-15-Qt-Clear-Plastic-Latch-Box-Blue-Latches-with-Clear-Lid/46001916?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=2640&adid=2222222227746001916_117755028669_12420145346&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=501107745824&wl4=pla-294505072980&wl5=9001941&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=46001916&wl13=2640&veh=sem_LIA&gclid=CjwKCAjww7KmBhAyEiwA5-PUSmoCVNuC6wyAnDadh_aX3p_hkLkdAjFOBIgEV-gDTgxaoUhXKwc4JxoCMUAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Pump www.amazon.com/AQQA-Aquarium-Outlet-Adjustable-Bubbler/dp/B09S3Q5MQ4/ref=sr_1_16?crid=2DLE25WQTOEXG&keywords=aquarium%2Bair%2Bpump&qid=1691179733&sprefix=aquarium%2Bair%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-16&th=1 Substrate & casing www.browntreasure.com

[@Jamesim82]

Do you have a link to those black trays, by any chance?

[@sebastianwolford6556]

Is it hard to make hybrid mushrooms?

[@mountaindwarf6452]

@@Jamesim82Walmart in the Tupperware section. I think it’s like $10 for 10

[@te4145]

Any issues of contamination w/o micropore tape over the holes?

[@te4145]

What is not mentioned is maintaining a warm environment of at least 80 degrees preferably 83 max of 85. degrees. I'm going to use a specialty heating mat used to colonize cubensis tubs in a grow tent. I'll place a glass bowl of water on it to help maintain consistent heat. The grow tent will also insulate it. I'll be putting ttbvi agar to grain jar tomorrow! Thanks Willy!

[@jerseyjoe8637]

This guy is good at what he does, no offense, but he talks way to much.

[@lhaluciol1]

Omg yes. I can’t watch until the end, ever.

[@bobclobbner7819]

@@lhaluciol1so you waste your time hear complaining instead of a quick skip until the next info spit. Or just go wallow in your own haha

[@jacksonnc8877]

Willie don't see your vids much anymore on KZbin. Awesome to finally get one on my feed. You're so talented thanks for the education it's much appreciated 👍

[@Ascension1776]

Brooo my pan LC is about done colonizing. The timing on this vid is so great. I’ve referred a lot of people. Thanks brother

[@ScottYdo]

KZbin knows who the scammers are. They should be held accountable.

[@araven3888]

Big big thanks for all the great info over the years and keeping me learning. Sending ya big love from the UK......😊

[@adrianmoore2750]

Skip to 5:20

[@chris0shpprd]

Oh thanks

[@brandonf8156]

Could you do a video on azurescens? I think it would make for a great educational video.

[@RevShifty]

Azures and Ps cyans are best grown outdoors. People have been successful growing them indoors, but it either takes a heavily modified fridge or a very clean, very cold basement. It's far from easy because of how long it can take turn to colonize and the low temps needed to cause fruiting. But growing them outdoors is easy enough, you just need to start the beds in early Spring if you want them to fruit by Autumn. They're show colonizers and need that temp drop to fruit. That's also what makes them so hard to grow indoors. But corrugated cardboard and hardwood sawdust in a shallow outdoor bed are your best bet. People have been growing them that way for decades already.

[@modernmountaineer]

it just requires manure and preferably straw, lil hotter and higher humidity.

[@shaunm1983]

Watch Jack Cyans episode on the Myco Geeky podcast. He goes into great detail on how he grows woodlovers

[@veganbutcherhackepeter]

First: you gotta be in a moderate climate. Tropical or subtropical does not work. Find a patch to use, dig it up a foot deep and fill with beech chippings. Inoculate a bag of wood dowels with P. azurescens spores. Let it colonize between 20-25°C. When done, mix it into your outdoor bed, cover with an inch of soil and foliage (to create a good microclimate). Keep the patch moistened. In fall temperatures, usually between late September and early November (depending on your whereabouts) the mushrooms will start popping up. Done it countless times, never failed.

[@kingzach5000]

I love your content. You have blessed us with so much. I have been very fruitful with your teachings

[@lhaluciol1]

Can never watch your videos until the end. I like the content but it takes too long to start (this one takes 4m28s) and you say “You guys” 300 times per video. Idk why it’s irritating.

[@binkibonko69]

yup. hella annoying

[@itskev4995]

Agreed

[@goatrock123]

I agree.

[@joshyohman]

This needs so much more fae in order for it to be set and forget. Tried this multiple times and my pans were choking.

[@Airstyles22]

Same experience, far from automated or set and forget it.

[@joshyohman]

Wait, did you use the smaller trays suggested, I used an 8x8 cake pan for mine.. God I keep trying to make this work lol, doubled the size and amount of fae and it just couldn't support an 8x8. Someone please feel free to chime in and tell me it worked for them.​@@Airstyles22

[@andyroo3022]

I grew some very good oyster mushrooms in bags in a home made bigger tub with wet perlite in the bottom, a heat pad and thermostat, and two computer fans on timers. One fan blows air in and one pulls are out at the shorter tub sides. I cut holes in the tub and mounted the fans at each end. I have micropore tape over the fan grilles to help prevent bad spores entering. I set up a small bucket outside of water connected to two reptile misting nozzles. They were a cheap kit from AliExpress from China. The nozzles can be also set for times or a manual button pressed for a quick misting. Worked great on the edible oysters. I wonder if my setup would work for the Pan Cyans? I recently saw a video where he used water on incontinence pads instead of perlite in his tubs. I have a lot of left over puppy pads that would also work for humidity.

[@chevyenigma7914]

Gordo Tek with screen is the easy way in my opinion no air pump needed. If u do your research u will find it has been done long b4 u you lol its like the no poo tek that ppl think they did first i found info from 15 years ago with no poo tek. i love using poo its free & i plentiful i even use it with my cubes

[@manyman9890]

I love this video I’m a fish keeper and these materials I could find in my fish supplies lol. Thank you for this awesome retro idea 💡 ❤

[@TheTubejunky]

Anyone else remember YEARS AGO Willy saying THIS WAS OVER KILL and WE SHOULDn'T Do it?...... Hillshire Farms remembers!,,,, Jokes aside, TBH My first was something similar to this and it was PFTEK. It worked awesomely. Nice seeing you again WillymEister!

[@Backpacksandtrails]

It's Pepperidge Farms remembers ;)

[@RevShifty]

People were growing pans with a modified PF tek 20+ years ago. This tek itself is basically just a modified Poor Man's Pod from that same stretch. There isn't anything new under the sun. I'm glad he's putting the info out there, I'm just kinda disappointed in how so few people apparently knew this.

[@edwinshmedwin]

Still watchin you since the early early days on your first channel. Been wild to see how far everything has come in the realm of mush due to social media and all the people getting involved. Just wanted to say it's good to see you bud! keep movin' forward

[@ScottYdo]

Thanks for sharing your videos and wisdom.

[@shawnmagby4399]

Thank you Willy for another great video. If y’all ain’t on the patreon to watch the whole video your missing out on something special. Not to mention the great community that comes with your subscription

[@sageseventh]

I just wanted to take a minute to appreciate you not giving us Covid. Great videos btw

[@headcheese2005]

Excellent video and tek! Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us.

[@ipriori]

After a few failures: amazing lessons through experience itself: which i had sought, finally developing some measure of experience; my best performing setup (for all strains) was: bottom watering, introducing MINERALS & fresh water, air-stones (adding negligible amount of H2O2 into water, i would do at minimum micro-casing even on strains which unnecessary, would generally use light bulbs with some type of UV (found that in conjunction with vermiculite, asthetically the two give the caps an amazing GOLD haze), furthermore, not necessary otherwise... light-timing is also relatively subjective to preference; So far as food blend? honestly, prefer millet with added supplementation, vermiculite, coco coir, gypsum, ill actually use this stuff you can get from the pet store (its a form of soil found surrounding volcanoes) - black, porous, firm(ish) texture - a bit softer than activated carbon - filled with potash and a number of other nutrients (micro and macro) also will assist with water turbidity - to a degree, -mostly- anything that isnt useful to 'biological life'

[@jbondarts]

How is the overall bin/room temperature maintained in the 80's?

[@mikebutler6896]

Would a reptile fogger not be better than a fish tank air pump ?

[@culinaryue9727]

Nicely done🎉

[@billprice6458]

Willy thank you for your content. I have a beginner question. Could you recommend a good low level light for just a hobbyist? Are flourescents viable or should i get led's? Thankyou.

[@RevShifty]

Fluorescents are fine. Depending on the time of year where you're growing, ambient sunlight itself could be more than enough, depending on how large you're going and how stealth you want to be.

[@robbieg3113]

Thank you for sharing this video! Really helpful

[@JimmyGambiniEsquire]

Brilliant ! Like the ol ak47 frt chamber 😉😎⚡️⚡️⚡️💫

[@andreashorn4294]

The video helped me, (panaeolus cyanescens) the 14 l boxes are not that bad.

[@marshallartist2012]

I love this technique 🍄💚 awesome work brother many thanks 🙏

[@danielboomers]

no fruits.. will hardly work at all without genetic work

[@RevShifty]

@@danielboomers Fruits are easy to come by with multi spore IME. You just really need to make sure your fresh air exchanges are up to snuff. They need easily double what cubes do, and high CO2 will kill them really quickly.

[@danielboomers]

@@RevShifty they dont grow well in mono tubs at all. for that u need genetics work and tons of failures. this tek is not proven. stick with jcm or jake or gordo

[@RevShifty]

@@danielboomers They can work well in mono tubs, as long as you account for much more FAE. You'll always get better results with working a proven line, but it's still not really necessary. You could use smaller tubs; I've seen them grown in small tubs made from sealable plastic file holders. If you're using polyfill in a larger tub, take a bit more out of the top holes when initiating fruiting. If you're using micropore tape, consider leaving small amounts of space on the holes uncovered, as long as you're in a clean room. Either way, try indirectly pointing a small fan towards the direction of the tub once it's ready to fruit. If they're still not doing great, just take the lid off and use it to gently fan the tub a few times a day. Just make sure the humidity stays on point whichever way you go. They really do need a good deal more fresh air to perform well. And when you're working with a large, solid mass, it really needs to be on point across the entire surface or it'll be a really sparse harvest or it'll contam pretty quickly. I don't personally bother with tubs for pans, because it's more trouble than it's worth IMO. There are easier and more reliable teks, most that need zero line working. They just don't throw out the same weight per unit. I'm fine with that, personally, though you might not be. I'm fine with basic shoebox style, or even modified PF tek, just because they work well with everything else I already have going on and don't need any extra work, space, or time on my part.

[@danielboomers]

@@RevShifty BS... growing pans in monotubs is nothing but luck, tons of failure and daily babysitting.. PERIOD! by wet.dry ratio 100/4% u need full canopies with pans for a decent harvest and monotubs will not give u that if there is not extra mist/fae from devices. PERIOD.

[@paulpaz5083]

Loving bro's mask.

[@thinkingmushrooms2943]

I bought some Pan Cyans at a bar in Thailand last year. They were fresh.

[@amigo75833]

This is something like JCM fruiting chamber, but I dont sure this 5w pump would be enought.

[@RevShifty]

It's basically a modified Poor Man's Pod from ~20 years ago. Looking into that might help trouble shoot any issues.

[@KalunMyers]

Yo willy.... We love u man.... Im sorry the community got so toxic for that while ... You're cool people

[@Matthitizidu]

You started my journey back in the day. I’m sure it’s the same for hundreds if not thousands. Can’t thank you enough.

[@mountaindwarf6452]

Worked great. I have a tent but decided to try it and great flush

[@walkersears6543]

I inoculated my grain spawn bag with Hawaiian pan cyans spores about 7 days ago. I have seen no signs of colonization whatsoever. I just re inoculated the bag again today. Do pan cyans spores take longer to form mycelium or is something wrong do you think?

[@brotherkron]

I used to pick them in large clusters in alder chips on the Oregon coast. Powerful this one is

[@RevShifty]

Pan cyans and Psilo cyans are two very different species. Both very powerful and very fun, but only one grows on alder wood.

[@necrophagus9]

Dope! I just got a syringe this month and haven't gotten around to researching any Teks yet so this is great timing for me 😊

[@AceBase5]

So just spawn grain then add casing layer no substrate over grain?

[@hiimbasic]

are you leaving the lid on the bin on during fruiting? so the drilled holes are the only fae?

[@kabar48]

My pan cyans got contamination. Do you have any vultures or spores to part with?

[@danielchristopher9628]

Awesome video and setup. Will this still work if a casing layer wasn't used?

[@canbiance]

perfect timing!! thank you

[@abundantcat7448]

dear lord you butchered the name lmao

[@sage1682]

😂😂

[@maguimartinez-pena8600]

Do you have a link for the black trays? While colonizing, keeping the black trays in a closet with the foil and holes is good enough or should be in a more sterile container?

[@superblessed1296]

It seems to be the same I spotted at Walmart

[@martindunstan7744]

Great vid when are you doing the second vid for the bag tek vid

[@christopherbarnard9672]

Yea buddy, I been putting off doing pan cyans cuz I'm so use to cubes....and I haven't been very successful with mono tubs only AIO bags

[@RevShifty]

Pans are almost as easy to.i grow as cubes, they just need even more fresh air. I'm not sure where your cube hold up is, but a modified PF Tek can work for Pans as long as you keep up with constant fresh air exchanges. Too much CO2 will kill them off very quickly.

[@Democracy65]

How does the set up differ for cubes

[@RevShifty]

They need much more fresh air exchange. Easily double what cubes need, while still keeping the humidity about the same and not keeping it drop. They also need manure. But if you can grow cubes, these aren't much more difficult. You really just need to up the FAE. Hell, there's even a couple different takes on PF jars for Pans, that's how similar their growth conditions are.

[@dengplays7192]

Pan cyan naturally grows in my backyard

[@Winny1092]

Heya what substrate are we using :)

[@WungoBungo]

So do you fruit them in different tubs?

[@killermunchies8650]

I’m also on Patreon. This video says it doesn’t exist .

[@Backpacksandtrails]

Does anyone know where to find these trays?? Thanks

[@headcheese2005]

Looks like it's a food storage container I think hefty makes some but other brands probably do to

[@RevShifty]

They're a simple food storage container, and come with a see through lid. You should be able to find them in any big box store, wherever they keep their other food storage items. And I know I've seen them on Amazon.

[@Ellellemm22]

Hi, did you find those trays. provide a link. I wish he’d provide a link for something so important. AAAAGGH! I’m pulling my hair out trying to find them. I’m genuinely going to lose my mind. Please please please tell me you found them and where? Thank you 🙏🏻

[@RevShifty]

@@Ellellemm22 They're usually labeled as food prep containers, or even lasagna containers at one point. Hefty makes some, as well as a bunch of other manufacturers. The only thing you want to look out for are all the different sizes (17.6 oz is the most common size I've seen, but there's a wide variety) and compartmentalization. Some of them come with various sections, like an old school TV dinner tray. But looking up that descriptor should help you find exactly what you're looking for.

[@jamesjosephleblanc8614]

Will this setup work with Estero's as well? Not sure how tall Estero's get.

[@C.ODubhlaoich-sp3to]

All Pans will work with the same setup..tropicalis, bisporus, cyanescens, whichever. Just like all cubensis varieties work in the same setups

[@landonbeyette2361]

Can I get a link to all of these products?

[@landonbeyette2361]

@hopebeel8765 much appreciated

[@puravida809]

Bud, thanks for the great videos! Very helpful for a rookie like myself. Hey, I know you're uber-bz but I'm just wondering if you could help me ID the panaeolis suspects. Recently picked in Costa Rica but left to chill since I can't be 100% sure they are the right ones. I took some.detailed pix. Any help greatly appreciated!

[@te4145]

Can you use micropore tape to cover the FAE holes?

[@shaunm1983]

I'd use bigger holes if your using micropore tape. I'm just going to try with my normal monotub setup. It's should have plenty of humidity and airflow anyway with the airstones in there. I'll probably have two glasses in the one tub though as my tubs are pretty big

[@danikaflorence444]

Pt 2 of the all in one bag series when??

[@gabesmith7701]

Where's pt2 bag Tek??

[@joshuabarnhart9028]

I want to like this video but theres literally 777 likes and I feel like its a sign 🌋🌊☄️🌕

[@stevieraymedinahartz]

You can’t do a uncut version ? Why do all of these other KZbinrs show the whole process? Are they showing only how to fail? Are they not really using psilocybin spores?

[@spontaneousbootay]

He will risk getting his channel shut down if he shows fruits

[@tommypham1101]

At least tell us what substrate and casing your using Thanks

[@terrymckensey6055]

Use 75 percent coco 25 percent manure. Pasteurized. Casing use jiffy mix seed starter or peat moss and vermiculite. Pastuerized as well.

[@danielboomers]

read shroomery there is a 1500pages pan cyan thread for free. this nonsense above is ..shite

[@thecatsbackyard4833]

Awesome

[@v3lta622]

Kinda sad he is saying he cant show it on KZbin... meanwhile there are 1000 videos with exactly what he has done..

[@crossminded9480]

90sm jus got taken down he prolly dont want a similar situation

[@davidmush9999]

It's known as a JCM, maybe give credit to the guy you stole from.

[@RedDynamite]

JCM'S seem to get better results. But could just be the cultures. A lot more FAE in JCM's though, could be the difference.

[@Primitivemycology]

Everybody is so worried about credit but I'll garuntee nobody actually knows who the first person to do this was. It's fucking fungi, a living organism........ Genetics, techs, all that shit belongs to no one. Makes me sick hearing people argue about ignorant shit like that.

[@svgs650r]

👍

[@frogmanpipes9561]

I would like willy to answer my question. Why does YT target him? There are a dozen other channels in YT. That guve atep by step. I wonder if he's just out for the money?

[@MalithAsanga-c3v]

How to buy spore print ?

[@joshjennings3160]

Is the mask for the mush or covid just curious if it had something todo with containment

[@RevShifty]

It has to do with not wanting to reveal his face.

[@jamesstaplesv]

What about Odessy ?

[@babylondrifter5612]

i got wild cyans in the field

[@CouponGPT]

I'm fortunate enough I live where it's legal to cultivate export magic mushrooms that place being Jamaica so if you guys have any ideas to make money and you live in a place where it's decriminalize you know where to reach me peace

[@Democracy65]

Can I do this tec with cubes?

[@adityaprasad465]

Curious how you arrived at 9/64. Why not 8/64 (=1/8)?

[@gargoylekingGWO]

Myco King 👑 keep shining like u do

[@kloverPhoenix]

im hereeeee

[@Z3N1T4]

Use more footage of the setup a face talking with a mask is hard to pay attention.

[@soulflesh15]

Didn't work for me. It started to overlay on day 3.😢

[@RevShifty]

When fruiting conditions start, you really need to up your FAE for Pans. At least double what cubes need, and without letting the humidity drop. And the thinnest of casing layers, of like 1/4 inch deep, can help keep the sub moisture in and create a better micro climate.

[@soulflesh15]

@RevShifty yea, I think they needed a bit more fae. Ended up slapping a martha tent together in a hurry, but it's kinda working. Not a real canopy, but just enough for a like half a dozen trips.

[@RevShifty]

@@soulflesh15 That's good enough IMO. They're completely different than cubes, and some varieties are more prone to canopies without much isolation work, but it sounds like you're doing fine regardless. Best of luck these are real gems.

[@captainfalcon8302]

Don’t do this trash waste of time and money your welcome

[@danielboomers]

hahaha where are the fruits?

[@killermunchies8650]

I pay for patreon , this video when I click on it says, this video does not exist 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@elizabethwinsor-strumpetqueen]

what's F.A.E. ?

[@brantwalker2481]

I like your channel but it’s false you need Pattreon there’s alot of videos on here that show the whole thing they just can’t monetize it

[@mdkmenacethedennis4438]

🤘👌🤙👍🍕🍄👋🏻🤟

[@billyknippers6983]

DUDE WHAT IS UP WITH THAT GOOFY MASK ?

[@Shrubby]

So he stays somewhat anonymous

[@303cris]

What's up with that goofy as beard?

[@andrewmodell5889]

Willy I like you ..even though you shadow banned me ...I hope you succeed ...geeky is busting people ..don't support that .y'all where suggested to me not me to you....

[@Beefbus]

I canceled my membership when I heard Reddit.

[@triple_gem_shining]

First to pans 🌌🐺

[@triple_gem_shining]

🏆

[@Musicmaddnes]

Not even close

[@fatkorn]

The [pay-wall] to patreon videos is a good thing, keeps all the delinquents out.... sry ignore that, I love delinquents & deviants, I digress... [pay-wall], get your nickles however you can, people need to pay for your time. blago blago blago, hiya to mr. brownstone, broX, sturdy-bob, shroomcowboy, reverend colgate & the holy roller sideshow HRS!!!

[@Spindoctorate34]

The sound of his voice because of the mask is annoying

[@josephhernandez3087]

Why waste the time. Pe is just as good.

[@RevShifty]

No, they aren't.

[@rajalopez9357]

Using all those gadgets defeats the purpose. Bad grower

[@alkeryn1700]

this is overcomplicated imo, you can grow them in just normal unmodified shoeboxes.

[@Musicmaddnes]

First

[@triple_gem_shining]

Not even close

[@greatestytcommentator]

Fantastic and insightful Statement / Query..

[@Musicmaddnes]

@@greatestytcommentator thank you for your help

[@fatkorn]

Holy shit dude, you did it!!! Woooooooooooooooooo :)

[@MalithAsanga-c3v]

How to buy spore print ?

[@dennie54]

I lip read and that's enough reason to skip by your videos but, the mask creeps me out! Reminiscent of the plandemic! I tried watching one of your videos but couldn't get past the mask!

[@Myce]

Have u tried turning the volume up

[@MrIzzy11B]

You know you don’t have to do all that extra shit, right

[@FBIcounterscammerdepartment]

Can i feed grain spawn to my horses?