Man Utd 2 Liverpool 1: How Ten Hag took advantage of Klopp's defensive weaknesses

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Manchester United earned their first Premier League victory under Erik ten Hag against their historic rivals Liverpool. But how were they able to beat Klopp's formidable team?
JJ Bull explains how energy, aggression and pragmatic tactics won the game.
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@hamood2676
@hamood2676 2 жыл бұрын
Dropping Shaw and giving Malacia a start proves to be a crucial decision by Ten Hag. Massive props to Malacia for an excellent performance
@optiondezzo1513
@optiondezzo1513 2 жыл бұрын
do not ignore the god king maguire's drop from the first team, its one of the key factors of this win.
@seb2750
@seb2750 2 жыл бұрын
Dropping Shaw and Captain Slabhead really worked out well.
@kevinmccabe7263
@kevinmccabe7263 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, everyone's talking about Maguire and Ronaldo, but Shaw and Fred were also dropped and I think that was key to United winning.
@baseformrolf6710
@baseformrolf6710 2 жыл бұрын
but whats pogba doing in all of this
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 2 жыл бұрын
@@optiondezzo1513 Man's an actual giant though. Because Liverpool cross a lot, playing Martinez over him could have bit United at the back. Good it didn't.
@thelonelyloner7
@thelonelyloner7 2 жыл бұрын
Props to the whole team of Tifo for putting these videos so fast after the games AND with this much high quality 👏
@BrokeassRen
@BrokeassRen 2 жыл бұрын
ofc, its united v liverpool afterall
@thelonelyloner7
@thelonelyloner7 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrokeassRen they've been doing it after virtually every game
@gauravdaura
@gauravdaura 2 жыл бұрын
JJ is GOAT
@kimemia_maina
@kimemia_maina 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I worry that these guys are missing out on just enjoying the football.
@Magihyun
@Magihyun 2 жыл бұрын
That's literally their job and they are paid to acquire the material.
@JannyLW
@JannyLW 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’ve been watching these videos long enough to notice the tactics during the games now. You all do great work!!!
@TheAthleticFC
@TheAthleticFC 2 жыл бұрын
That's what we like to hear!
@georgepekmezovic8965
@georgepekmezovic8965 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching these the other day only. Was just thinking to myself when I'll start picking up on this during the games. These videos are extremely interesting, keep them coming!
@JoshMarshain
@JoshMarshain 2 жыл бұрын
Same, this channel alone has changed the way I view the game after a life full of watching it! Very grateful for that
@rolandwoltman7835
@rolandwoltman7835 2 жыл бұрын
Also, within the video I now see things they don't necessarily highlight, like 2:18 and before in the other matches De Gea passing charts, it jumps off the screen how badly, just how incredibly poorly De Gea is in possession and how he leads to turnovers. Just brutal. De Gea can only go to a counterattacking team in the future. His pay should be cut to less than 25% of what it is. Brutal.
@Kayjoo
@Kayjoo 2 жыл бұрын
Football will be a lot more fun after you understood and notice the tactics
@HadesonLenox
@HadesonLenox 2 жыл бұрын
United players certainly were running around like their careers depended on it. Like Ten Hag highlighted in post-match, the spirit was there.
@dennisjulius_021
@dennisjulius_021 2 жыл бұрын
They knew that if they didn’t run during game, they’ll run even more as punishment the next day in training 😂
@BrokeassRen
@BrokeassRen 2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjulius_021 they're scared of shiny bald head telling them to run 1000km next session
@vinobear3410
@vinobear3410 2 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjulius_021 which... Like I always said, they are freaking well paid for it. They literally make more than many people in a year , on a weekly basis. No reason for them not to work harder
@sragen99
@sragen99 2 жыл бұрын
It's like when Ole's job on the line lol. Shite for a few games then when rumours of his sacking surfaced, they started to play like a totally different team (more so against other Big 6).
@sragen99
@sragen99 2 жыл бұрын
@@vinobear3410 Some make more money in a week than many people in their lifetime.
@mart4414
@mart4414 2 жыл бұрын
This game told you all about Ten Hag -Made big decisions on Maguire, Ronaldo and Shaw -Turned up the high press and progressive passing but didn't risk playing it out from the back excessively -Took off Elanga (was doing ok) after 45 mins to maximize the inside channel between Gomez and Trent -Got the fresh legs on just in time to see the game out Terrific control of such a high pressure game. 10/10.
@darren806
@darren806 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah elanga was very unlucky to be taken off, an assist and he hit the post and he still couldn't stay on lol
@daniedeklerk1914
@daniedeklerk1914 2 жыл бұрын
@@darren806 Yes but he should’ve scored.
@FountainOfYoot
@FountainOfYoot 2 жыл бұрын
@@darren806 those are the standards that should be set. That an assist and a post doesn't guarantee a full game.b
@tayzk5929
@tayzk5929 2 жыл бұрын
Yet when Ole did the same thing, he got criticism... Interesting.
@mart4414
@mart4414 2 жыл бұрын
@@tayzk5929 Ole benching Maguire? What timeline was this?
@febian1529
@febian1529 2 жыл бұрын
Malacia-martinez- varane certainly make the team far better, the quick, fast, agile and in possesion they keep the ball well. If casemiro play as CDM then United will have good structure defensively and it allow their attacker to express and take risk more. And also when martial come they looks like better team because martial often drop deep, help the build up and allow both wing to come inside and make a run. For me this game show that shaw, maguire, ronaldo are no longer starter of the team.
@lukemiller_6
@lukemiller_6 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, back four actually seem decent now, definitely improved
@liquid_brew2110
@liquid_brew2110 2 жыл бұрын
Maguire OUT!
@nadeemlakhi9206
@nadeemlakhi9206 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of dalot? If wan bissaka had started we would have lost
@TheDavinci888
@TheDavinci888 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadeemlakhi9206 wish we could swap AWB for dest
@msstry1
@msstry1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDavinci888 Barça would rather dirty money or Maguire before that would happen...
@Groundsey
@Groundsey 2 жыл бұрын
The back line of Malacia Martinez Varane Dalot was excellent. I’d expect this to be the starting back four for the rest of the season, but Varane’s injury record is concerning.
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen our back line look so assured in ages!
@WeR2ManBand
@WeR2ManBand 2 жыл бұрын
Ole's United waited for the opposition to make a mistake, ETH's United caused Liverpool to make mistakes. That's the key difference. Calling it an 'Ole-esque' approach is a massive disrespect to both manager and the players.
@KingKabi
@KingKabi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you. I was just about to comment something similar. Ole would park the bus and counter. Ten Hag was very proactive with this game, high pressure, passing game and keeping control when possible, forcing Liverpool into mistakes. Far far different from Ole. Different levels.
@trexx552
@trexx552 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair, the opposition did make mistake that lead to the 2nd goal
@WeR2ManBand
@WeR2ManBand 2 жыл бұрын
@@trexx552 That one was actually an individual mistake by Henderson but it was one of very few. Majority of the errors resulted from high, aggressive pressing from United. In Ole's days the team would just sit deep and wait for a turnover.
@tayzk5929
@tayzk5929 2 жыл бұрын
Not true at all. Wonder why so many people are biased against Ole. Guess they've got to justify their errors somehow.
@WeR2ManBand
@WeR2ManBand 2 жыл бұрын
@@tayzk5929 XD
@merilum
@merilum 2 жыл бұрын
liverpool's defense was absolutely shambolic today, i don't understand why Fabinho was benched for this game
@Ray03595
@Ray03595 2 жыл бұрын
very reactionary from Klopp if it was because of the Palace draw. they have too many injuries to be benching their most reliable midfielder.
@Nightsu
@Nightsu 2 жыл бұрын
because he was injured and not fully fit? the guy came on and looked so slow
@a_moneypound
@a_moneypound 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw Fabinho on the bench I knew that Man United had a chance in this game
@theghanaiansage
@theghanaiansage 2 жыл бұрын
Because of fitness
@Roserytemptation
@Roserytemptation 2 жыл бұрын
What is more concerning is that we played a high line with a CB pairing that were half the width of the pitch away from each other at times and a midfield where 2 of of them were acting as play makers. No striker, wingers couldn’t do much because the ball didn’t get to them, out of possession we were all over the place and Ten Hag knew that would be the case because Klopp is predictable. Just as we saw in the 20/21 season, even if we are riddled with injuries, we don’t adapt to the players in the team and Klopp tries to play the same way. Trent really needs to move into Midfield IMO because his defending is atrocious when he is back and he’s normally not back anyway
@RossMcCarthy1990
@RossMcCarthy1990 2 жыл бұрын
I love the actual analysis of these videos. I feel sky and BBC used to do this more often (and maybe they do on MNF) but these guys are here time and time again with top notch details
@archiebiltcliffe
@archiebiltcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
The day we see Joe Devine hosting MOTD is the day football peaks
@Chigz10
@Chigz10 2 жыл бұрын
They never do stuff like this on there cos it’s time sensitive and they focus more on eye test reactions from ex pros than deep analysis. But they do it on MNF where they have more time to analyse games from the weekend etc
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chigz10 lol mnf is a joke, Gary Neville said before this game utd would play it out from the back he is always wrong
@Chigz10
@Chigz10 2 жыл бұрын
@@StoutProper I’m gonna say G Nev and Carra defo know what they’re talking about given they had very long careers at the top level despite limited actual footballing skill and they spend countless time watching and analysing the game now. Predicting something would happen and being wrong doesn’t mean anything
@HerrCron
@HerrCron 2 жыл бұрын
@@archiebiltcliffe All the money to have Joe Devine introducing MOTD with a big "YYYEEEESSS"
@cnj9307
@cnj9307 2 жыл бұрын
Such a difference Maguire and Shaw's absence made
@nevilleachero8054
@nevilleachero8054 2 жыл бұрын
shaw is a decent defender. He always gets caught out bc he has to constantly mark two players because of Maguire's incompetence.
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 2 жыл бұрын
​@@nevilleachero8054 Maguire is a good defender other than than his utterly stupid positioning. Hopefully he can do well in the world cup and get picked up by some other team who play that slow football like England.
@mahazchowdhury4969
@mahazchowdhury4969 2 жыл бұрын
@@nevilleachero8054 I like shaw but he’s clearly no where near a good defender anymore. Malacia showed how to defend. Every time Salah got past him he would always run back and make the second tackle. Shaw doesn’t have the mobility and energy to do this. Clear night and day difference
@pijesz
@pijesz 2 жыл бұрын
Fred in - Liverpool scored
@nevilleachero8054
@nevilleachero8054 2 жыл бұрын
@@pijesz kinda surprised united didn't play casemiro. He can play in a midfield with erikson and Fernandes.
@philnerius7645
@philnerius7645 2 жыл бұрын
Football can be simple. Manchester did the basic things you have to do when playing Liverpool. Don't play out from the back, don't press high (keep the field compact), and have an aggressive attitude. I don't know, if I have ever seen Bruno Fernandes close down this many players. Liverpool on the other hand looked tired.
@Dabbtrabb
@Dabbtrabb 2 жыл бұрын
Malacia, Dalot and Elanga brought in an energy and aggression that had been missing. They truly changed the game IMO. Fernandes was Everywhere, but this time it was good!
@seb2750
@seb2750 2 жыл бұрын
So happy ETH finally left out Shaw, Maguire and ... even CR7. They went full pace for their goals, very well done. Liverpool had no energy, they just jog around like a friendly game. I hope Liverpool better reinforce their team, they look very tired on squad depth. I hope Klopp gets it right soon, or else Pep has a free run to the title this season.
@mistergray9664
@mistergray9664 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a broken tape recorder saying Trent Alexander-Arnold's workrate is a massive liability for Liverpool. Klopp's staff NEED to do something about it.
@mainlyjm
@mainlyjm 2 жыл бұрын
By far the easiest weakness of Liverpool you can exploit in my opinion. It seems like every time Liverpool are playing against a FAST, technical LW, like: Martinelli, Elanga or even recently in the CL Vinicius, Trent has a poor game from a defensive stand point.
@karimmoorad4128
@karimmoorad4128 2 жыл бұрын
It will get worse when he faces Saint maximin, he'll shred him to bits
@XxwalaweixX
@XxwalaweixX 2 жыл бұрын
@@mainlyjm Vinicius owned him on that game, imo Klopp should buy another RB, so he can push TAA as cm, he is more of a playmaker and played as a midfielder during his academy years.
@SkullSnax
@SkullSnax 2 жыл бұрын
Huge performances by Uniteds back 4, really something special. I’m happy for United to be more pragmatic, if you’re good at counter attacking and playing direct, teams start sitting back more which will allow the team to learn more of Ten Hags possession game.
@SultanOfSlam69
@SultanOfSlam69 2 жыл бұрын
This is a take that I haven't seen enough of. Ole-style counter attacking football, until yu've forced them to play a lower line at which point the ETH possesion style play gets easier. I do remember us struggling to break down a low block under Ole, but I think with both the personel changes as well as ETH's tactics, this should also improve.
@PeterEhik
@PeterEhik 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you explained the conundrum VVD was in for that first goal, he's doing what he usually does which is defend space, there's a reason he's never the one making last ditch tackles but his play is heavily reliant on the system working and of course he's a huge part of that system but when he's playing with Gomez and no Fabinho and no Henderson on the right covering for Arnold, then of course he gets exposed. When Sancho scores, in that moment, VVD should switch his mindset and go after Sancho but years and years of conditioning is probably why he just holds the position, he didn't have a great game though, his job is to organize and clearly he didn't do that well.
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx 2 жыл бұрын
I see, some sudden jetlag for him. But tbh his position isnt even good for space defend, because all he did was blocking alisson's view
@pijesz
@pijesz 2 жыл бұрын
He also didn't try to block when Zaha scored last time.
@csolivais1979
@csolivais1979 2 жыл бұрын
With an onside United player to his right, if he goes and tries to close down Sancho, Sancho makes the pass. Kind of a damn if you/damn if you don't. If I was a Liverpool fan, my biggest worry would be why was TAA just jogging in the box and what midfielder was supposed to have Sancho.
@rufusstewart762
@rufusstewart762 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever gives Matip the credit. Matip and VVD is the partnership that makes Liverpool solid
@mHANIF-xl3rx
@mHANIF-xl3rx 2 жыл бұрын
glorified maguire
@SIW808
@SIW808 2 жыл бұрын
The key was leaving out Maguire, Shaw and Ronaldo. The players that came in for thise three really turned up in a massive way. Malacia got done like once or twice but made excellent recoveries. Varane & Martinez looked solid like they've been playing together for years. And in front, we had loads of pace with Elanga and Rashford.
@warrioroffpeace3673
@warrioroffpeace3673 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest Dalot also had a big part, he tired Diaz and their battles was really great. Every sub come on and did a excellent job, Ronaldo could’ve scored if he came on early. Ones he came on Liverpool had to drop back more.
@kadeerkhan9802
@kadeerkhan9802 2 жыл бұрын
​@@warrioroffpeace3673 no they dropped back because of the perceived threat he carries, not because he actively forces them back. Against a cutthroat heavy pressing team like Lvpl having a guy like Ronaldo on would suppress the attack because he's a burst player where he retains energy by trudging along the pitch and running in bursts, he would be pocketed playing like that. So having a fast and annoying front line is mainly what undid lvpl this game.
@Timbone07
@Timbone07 2 жыл бұрын
@@kadeerkhan9802 Is Ronaldo the issue or the fact that Elanga presses more Rashford?
@kadeerkhan9802
@kadeerkhan9802 2 жыл бұрын
@@Timbone07 I'm not saying he's the issue, I'm saying he's not ideal for the style that 10Hag wants to play, especially against high pressing teams like the big 6. Against mid and lower table teams, he can be a flat track bully cuz they're not intelligent enough to preempt his runs half the time
@Timbone07
@Timbone07 2 жыл бұрын
@@kadeerkhan9802 I think the issue is that we lack intelligent passers. But a Modric behind Ronaldo and he will shine. I think Eriksen last season would have spotted Ronaldo with more passes But context is important, I agree with Simon Jordan, against a big team that attacked us and we could exploit the space behind, we looked good The real test is against the likes of Brentford and Brighton
@KingsOfRugby
@KingsOfRugby 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, that channel between Trent and Gomez was just so inviting for United, and they played well too. Props to Ten Hag for getting them going for a game properly
@stantonlloyd6383
@stantonlloyd6383 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo many goals come from TAA side and see him casually jogging back kills me. I understand hes bombin down the pitch to help on the attack but it’s honestly something Klopp should of fixed by now
@TheS1lentX
@TheS1lentX 2 жыл бұрын
I really dislike putting blame on just one player, but TAA's positioning is so poor and it's obvious teams have been benefiting attacking liverpool's right side. If he was defensively aware, he could've prevented one of the two goals, if not both
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was stuck at the mindset of offside trap on that first goal, seeing how vvd and gomez lined up well. But surely i was so agitated on that decision, who tf plays offside trap on hesitation? I ripped like 3 hair follicles on that.
@super_organist
@super_organist 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dz73zxxx he's always lazy to track back. Always jogging and feeling so entitled in the team.Weakest link in that defense .How can you win a title with a glaring weak link in your defense which the opposition will target?
@ixaixa35
@ixaixa35 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Klopp fixed it with Hendo covering that position He just didnt apply it for this game cause he didnt have options We literally had 2 keepers on the bench we had such little options
@BloodRedLFC
@BloodRedLFC 2 жыл бұрын
Needed a good defensive RCM to play Trent effectively! I wonder if nunes could be that RCM but...
@thelonelyloner7
@thelonelyloner7 2 жыл бұрын
Glad ETH stuck to his tactics/style and dropped CR7, Maguire and Shaw. Need to do that consistently now
@Ryder....
@Ryder.... 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Ryder....
@Ryder.... 2 жыл бұрын
Also After Casemero Comes Mctominay Should Not Be Played
@IKER0718
@IKER0718 2 жыл бұрын
united needs to play players who want to play with their hearts, this game showed everyone on the field was passionate and presented great mentality overall
@crazygamingyt7245
@crazygamingyt7245 2 жыл бұрын
cr7 isn’t dropped ten hag says he will start on games where he dosent need pace
@muhdmat8454
@muhdmat8454 2 жыл бұрын
Need another midfielder and a right back. Antony is deal done I guess. Hopefully we could replace Maguire if he moves to Chelsea
@Lahfo
@Lahfo 2 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan who loves your videos, this video hurt to watch. Having said that, I agree with everything you said. Great analysis as always!
@aaronconway4435
@aaronconway4435 2 жыл бұрын
Really hope Arteta watches this, I really think the way Arsenal is set up could exploit this l'pool side, Saka holding Robertson and VVD's attention while we ping passes to the left for Martinelli up against TAA
@LaurentCourtines
@LaurentCourtines 2 жыл бұрын
I want hear about Fábio Carvalho. I think he may be thrust into Liverpools plans earlier than expected. His turn and shot that Salah rebounded in, was a thing of beauty. I know this is about United and they were fantastic... but it could also be time for Liverpool to transition.
@samking5101
@samking5101 2 жыл бұрын
Carvalho was very impressive when he came on. He will be needed with all of the injury problems
@animekage1876
@animekage1876 2 жыл бұрын
FR mans was underrated asf in that match man utd defense was the best but he absolutely thrashed them 2 against one and made a good pass could be a mane future star .
@NeoCherrn
@NeoCherrn 2 жыл бұрын
Sancho's goal gave me the same vibes as when I watch NBA and one player breaks someone else's ankles with his handles.
@AkaThePistachio
@AkaThePistachio 2 жыл бұрын
clinical finish
@Jack-Peters99
@Jack-Peters99 2 жыл бұрын
He sent Milner back to Leeds
@NeoCherrn
@NeoCherrn 2 жыл бұрын
Aged his ankles about 15 years in the space of a few seconds.
@CelticsBirdsUnited97
@CelticsBirdsUnited97 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-Peters99 A fellow viewer of Mark Goldbridge eh?
@JLU41
@JLU41 2 жыл бұрын
Literally been waiting all night for this. JJ and tifo deliver again
@bernardocorreia2402
@bernardocorreia2402 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@pinealdreams1064
@pinealdreams1064 2 жыл бұрын
I know seasons are long, and football's a squad game - so I expect Maguire and Shaw will of course play again - but, going forward, Ten Hag has to recognise Martinez/Varane/Malacia are the way forward for us. Sure, Malacia missed a few tackles, but the speed at which he got back up for the second tackle was almost supernatural. The guy never stopped hounding Salah, flying in, throwing him off, refusing to quit Martinez also does not mess about. Tackles everywhere, superb interceptions, and while he's the one defender we have who can play a quick-pass with accuracy (watch back how many times he split the midfield last night), he's also not afraid to hoof it out for a throw if he needs to, as opposed to Maguire's 'hold the ball and turn in a wide-circle until tackled' style. Varane also looked far more relaxed and like the Varane we knew, knowing Martinez would be there for him, and Dalot looked superb knowing Varane could cover him. Maguire causes panic for the other defenders which destroys our defensive solidity and entire team structure. Even McTominay looked improved with a better defence behind him.
@gluestix17
@gluestix17 2 жыл бұрын
dont remember the last time I watched a Man United game and actually enjoyed watching how my team played
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you mate, at least you have a refreshing weekstart...on the other hand i ripped like 3 hair folicles...
@powerrangers16712
@powerrangers16712 2 жыл бұрын
yet, call urself a fan.
@Tom-lr1if
@Tom-lr1if 2 жыл бұрын
From Liverpool fan: credit to Man Utd, they were much better this game. They deserved to win. I am, however, bitter that we have 11 players out with injuries already in the third game of the season. We are massively in need of midfield reinforcements. Liverpool's owners promised Klopp would have around 60-80 million to spend this summer, however we have yet again had to self finance our signings. We have had a net transfer spend of 12 million. Like cmon FSG, Aston Villa have had like ten times that the last couple seasons. We can't compete for titles every year against teams that can sign players for fun. It's ridiculous.
@zonetime9102
@zonetime9102 2 жыл бұрын
Erik we are fully behind you. This result was monumental. He had the courage to do what needed to be done team selection wise. Let's hope it doesn't paper over the cracks.Dropping Shaw and giving Malacia a start proves to be a crucial decision by Ten Hag. Massive props to Malacia for an excellent performance
@Ruzz_.
@Ruzz_. 2 жыл бұрын
Malacia is honestly Such a talent. He reminds me of shaw back in 2015 before the injury
@piyushpoddar9292
@piyushpoddar9292 2 жыл бұрын
Like how tone changes with these analysts, when Manchester United's midfield is not organised they say "they are all over the place" but the tone completely changes when it's Liverpool's midfield.
@ryanleech1958
@ryanleech1958 2 жыл бұрын
The speed at which Tifo get these videos out is absolutely insane! Great work guys. Love the channel and the content.
@orangeclockwerk
@orangeclockwerk 2 жыл бұрын
Been absolutely smashing it with the content recently. Is the Tifo Football Show making a comeback soon?
@oscarx-ray3545
@oscarx-ray3545 2 жыл бұрын
It's not coming back. JJ and Joe confirmed on Twitter 😓
@HerrCron
@HerrCron 2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarx-ray3545 BOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@orangeclockwerk
@orangeclockwerk 2 жыл бұрын
@@oscarx-ray3545 Aw man 😔
@dezmondsunflowerviii8396
@dezmondsunflowerviii8396 2 жыл бұрын
"he's fallen over on his back.." Homeboy was struggling
@125ccGasGas
@125ccGasGas 2 жыл бұрын
Solskjaer played a back 5 and played reactive. ETH went with high press when possible and pro-active. Big difference.
@mambakroko.6975
@mambakroko.6975 2 жыл бұрын
The tactical blunder was Brentford putting four past them early on and they realised how bad they were early they should have held back till end of the season, I mean Brighton got 2.
@tomosjones2432
@tomosjones2432 2 жыл бұрын
our counter attacking style really hit liverpool's unusually shaky high line at pace and allowed us to be aggressive on the counter using the pace without over committing and exposing ourselves to Liverpool's counter. malacia and dalot doing a superb job of keeping their wingers quiet. first game where ETH's system was to show, hopefully sign of things to come 🙌
@YoungMulaBaby808
@YoungMulaBaby808 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me our shaky high line is not unusual, it’s very much the norm with key players missing at the minute
@Dz73zxxx
@Dz73zxxx 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but Gomez is poor at offside trapping. Second goal's on rashford sums it up. And the last 3-3 against benfica.
@sigfigronath
@sigfigronath 2 жыл бұрын
I think eventually they should move towards a possession based system with the counter pressing (and everything else they did today). Today what they did was basically OGS tactics but with more organized pressing.
@sigfigronath
@sigfigronath 2 жыл бұрын
I think eventually they should move towards a possession based system with the counter pressing (and everything else they did today). Today what they did was basically OGS tactics but with more organized pressing.
@KingKabi
@KingKabi 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigfigronath I disagree, it was more than just organised pressing, they didn’t park the bus and just wait for counters like Ole used to. They were proactive in everything they did, pressing, passing, high line, organised structure nothing Ole did.
@sethosore3509
@sethosore3509 2 жыл бұрын
Man i was looking at this game today and all i could see Liverpool's weakness and tactical short comings....Thank you Tifo🙏🏽
@melpoe724
@melpoe724 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just, for a second, appreciate something that was said, that when Utd played City or Liverpool, Ole set his team up that way. Ole gets so much stick, yet he knew how to beat those teams and set up his limited squad to do just that, and also beat the smaller teams. He got Utd to 2nd in league and the final of a Euro comp. The problem for Ole was he was then dumped with new signings he clearly didn't want and had to change his tactics to a possession based team....which shocker, hasn't worked and does not work for this Utd team. So I think Ole is due some fking respect for what he did given the durge he had to work with
@raymanLENG
@raymanLENG 2 жыл бұрын
Newcastle exposed Pep's City & Man U exposed Klopp's Liverpool, the title challenge would be more interesting by now as other teams are now finding a way to exposed those 2 clubs. I can really see Spurs or Arsenal got that 2nd spot in the league.
@mantoocha
@mantoocha 2 жыл бұрын
Quality video (as usual). I have one argument when comparing to Ole's Man United. Ole's side capitalized on the opponents mistakes and hit them on the counter. Ten Hag's United on Monday FORCED Liverpool into mistakes by pressing HARD. Ole's side was way more passive and biding their time for a chance, this side actively searched for it.
@paulshuttleworth6261
@paulshuttleworth6261 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s not really comparable. Ole’s team were very passive and lacking aggression really. They weren’t scared as such, but they played as the underdog, which was why they often had unusually good results against the top half teams, and poor against the bottom. They didn’t press, and they didn’t create chances, they countered against mistakes.
@tsaminamina_eheh
@tsaminamina_eheh 2 жыл бұрын
ETH discarded his style to play like Ole Solskjaer 😂😂😂
@calvincito
@calvincito 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t normally comment on any video, but JJ is just such a brilliant presenter. He is so good, and these videos are so entertaining and educational. Thank you TifoIRL!
@thefacelessquestion3333
@thefacelessquestion3333 2 жыл бұрын
Malacia was relentless in that match... Gotta give him props for that and I'm a Chelsea fan(I know we were despicable last game)
@mrgaudy1954
@mrgaudy1954 2 жыл бұрын
Dropping Fabinho was a bit of a head scratcher
@09dariii
@09dariii 2 жыл бұрын
He wasnt fit enough, him playing would not make a difference that day.
@mieczniuk
@mieczniuk 2 жыл бұрын
Malacia was a crucial change for me, he did so well, not only defensively, but also offensively being able to play the ball forward under pressure
@Sam-cd9jz
@Sam-cd9jz 2 жыл бұрын
Martinez MOTM for me. he got under Liverpool's skin the whole match
@OG_Daz
@OG_Daz 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Martinez was excellent. Waiting for Jamie Redknapp to retract his ridiculous comment about him not being able to play CB in the premier league
@Tiggzyy
@Tiggzyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@OG_Daz he can't play against tall physical strikers, he's not wrong, he can play when the game is along the floor to an excellent level as shown today If nunez wasn't a muppet and got himself suspended, he would have had him on toast tonight
@poison2259
@poison2259 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tiggzyy Martinez already played against Nunez and ruined him. Kept him in his pocket the whole time during Ajax vs Benfica
@OG_Daz
@OG_Daz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tiggzyy I guess we will never know. Bet you would of said that about Salah Vs Malacia and he destroyed him
@pinealdreams1064
@pinealdreams1064 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tiggzyy That's English media nonsense that has been disproved in the Champions League multiple times in recent seasons. Remember Ajax thumped Dortmund 4-0 last season and Martinez had Haaland the entire game.
@GuitarbenderS
@GuitarbenderS 2 жыл бұрын
Ten Hag played out of his mind this match. I'm a Liverpool fan and i was on the edge of my seat the entire game watching those Man Utd plays. It's also sad to see how much a few absentees (Thiago, Fabinho, Núñez) can throw our balance off that much, it gives the impression that only the usual starting 11 know how to play a game together, and their dynamics are exclusive to them, so that when a sub or a replacement comes in the whole thing falls apart.
@bryanjames5840
@bryanjames5840 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 'lurker' of Tifo, watch all of your videos without really interacting on here. So just wanted to say thank you for all of your great shows.
@efrenbata6689
@efrenbata6689 2 жыл бұрын
Maguire has been declared a GOAT on that bench position.
@JoshMarshain
@JoshMarshain 2 жыл бұрын
Well done getting this out so fast and still producing such quality content, very interested to see how United approach next weekend with Casemiro, the Martinez/Varane pair and perhaps some new spring in their step
@drodriguez1685
@drodriguez1685 2 жыл бұрын
As a united fan this game is giving me hope that I relied off last season so I'm not celebrating until the end of the season
@crazygamingyt7245
@crazygamingyt7245 2 жыл бұрын
stop
@crazygamingyt7245
@crazygamingyt7245 2 жыл бұрын
Man United winning the ucl this year
@fredericksharon6908
@fredericksharon6908 2 жыл бұрын
United will win the world cup
@DjokerFan
@DjokerFan 2 жыл бұрын
@@crazygamingyt7245 inshallah heheheh siuuuuuu
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 2 жыл бұрын
Tifo calls it right, yet again. Jon pointed out in his video from a few weeks back that Ten Hag wasn't as married to his system as his reputation suggests. He would allow things to change depending who was on the pitch. We saw this with De Gea last night. I'm delighted for Erik. He was hiding it well enough (f bombs aside), but I bet he was buzzing after that game.
@charlesbritten4220
@charlesbritten4220 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of talk about whether the ideal for a team is to be a possession team like City / Barcelona, a pressing side like Liverpool or a counter-punching team like Solskjaer's United or a Mourinho / Simeone side. But surely the ideal should be to have the capacity to do all these things. France won the last World Cup that way, bossing possession and being able to open up teams that dropped deep, but also able to defend and win with less possession as they did in the semi against Belgium. If United can win these games as a counter-punching team and also dominate the ball and prise open defensive teams with a low block, they really will be back in business.
@kevinmccabe7263
@kevinmccabe7263 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Ole's stock just keeps going up the longer he's out of the United job! I think it's remarkable what he was able to do given the dysfunction in the club and the scattergun squad building!
@miramar1504
@miramar1504 2 жыл бұрын
Ole never had the tactics to implement anything more than counter attack. His lack of disciplining players has also led to the current state of the team. Nothing in the past few months has made his stock go up.
@Abilimarvellous
@Abilimarvellous 2 жыл бұрын
@William Liew he got sacked because we signed Ronaldo, admittedly he wasn't known for tactical nous but he had a very clear idea of how he wanted to play and he bought players for that, accommodating a 36 year old Ronaldo f**ked it up.
@siddharthchoudhary6333
@siddharthchoudhary6333 2 жыл бұрын
@@Abilimarvellous He didn't Sancho can be much better in posession based rather than counter attacking football. I think Ronaldo is part but not entire problem. We were already planning to see a bit advanced playing style
@siddharthchoudhary6333
@siddharthchoudhary6333 2 жыл бұрын
@William Liew But Ten Hag didn't completely revert to Ole style. First 25 minutes were good football. We had a few glimpses here and there. Ole waited in the box, today our defenders were aggressive in tackles
@Abilimarvellous
@Abilimarvellous 2 жыл бұрын
@@siddharthchoudhary6333 my entire point was in reference to the Ronaldo question made by the comment above mine. I think Eth is a more tactically astute coach, and today's game was about getting the much needed win, he wouldn't want to play like this for much of the season. I also feel he underestimated the league in his first two games and the reality check has enlightened him, the EPL is a different beast and he'd have to improvise more than he's ever done. Something ole was never great at, but he showed that today.
@MrPeanut17lufc
@MrPeanut17lufc 2 жыл бұрын
I know the talk is always about teams not attacking down liverpools LB side due to VVD but this is very disrespectful to Robertson. He won over 70% of his aerial duals last season and was beaten in the ground very few times around 0.65 times per game. Trent on the other side wins around 45% of his aerial duals and is beaten nearly 1.2 times per game. It's not just Van Dijk, a huge part of this happening is Robertson and also Trents lack of positional sense, aerial capability, desire to get back and being easily beaten 1v1
@jasonmondesir8758
@jasonmondesir8758 2 жыл бұрын
I know I should probably watch the game highlights, but how did he wind up on his back in that position @5:12 🤣
@Askld
@Askld 2 жыл бұрын
Bruno made a sliding tackle to pass the ball up to elanga while gomez was going for it at the same time
@tnix80
@tnix80 2 жыл бұрын
Just removing Maguire makes united a serious team
@neefy7896
@neefy7896 2 жыл бұрын
Oh how I've been waiting for this
@Yu7Zi
@Yu7Zi 2 жыл бұрын
Liverpool are slowly getting found out. Although Diaz is a great alternative to Mané, he’s a very different player. Going to take a while for Klopp to adjust his system.
@JohnM-ch4to
@JohnM-ch4to 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy Man United have a coach that has a game plan now
@fleischer236
@fleischer236 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know this dude’s name but he’s my favorite tactics bro
@rupeoverlay3153
@rupeoverlay3153 2 жыл бұрын
It JJ Bull the Bullard you heathen
@azlankhan4172
@azlankhan4172 2 жыл бұрын
JJ Bull The Bullard! Usually this type of info is in the description of most KZbin videos.
@malcolmbridges7304
@malcolmbridges7304 2 жыл бұрын
JJ these videos right after the games finished are excellent! You present them so coherently. Thank You
@arghonandi6818
@arghonandi6818 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning that point about ole. This still doesn't solve our major problem which is playing against low blocks. But one problem at a time
@Anonymous-nv5ji
@Anonymous-nv5ji 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, agreed it was a Ole style but it was much improved much better version of Ole Gonnar's style. There was lot of “counter-pressing" involved + Utd players played at very high intensity, very much efforts put in. ETH instilled some kinda' mentality don't know how😅 but found a way to persuade these players to play like he wants(not in genl coz that's possession based) but how he wanted them to play in specific against LIV & put in lots of efforts! And I guess a weakened LIV team also played a role, I know u will say Mane isn't such a miss as Firmino is a false 9 (but he isn't as much of a presser rather he is more involved in link-up play with midfielders i.e, he is more drilled in possession game not in defensive parts of the game). Then u will say Nunez also has the highest pressing no.s in Europe as a CF, but it's more than that, Sadio was more elite in terms of efficiency while pressing & he was an leader too on the pitch. Anyway Nunez also wasn't there to press on defensive mids. Fabinho was a big-big miss!! Hendo played out of posn thereby allowing the exploitation of gap +nt b/w TAA & CB. The style & tactics which Utd deployed would have completely been neutralised & negated had a full squad of LIV been avl. A Konate (*not Matip he is a ball playing CB whereas Konate can defend space), Fab, Hendo as RCM & Mane/Nunez at CF would have sufficed. Other than these 4 even Elliot would have worked instead of Thiago but these 4 were a big miss!
@fpsoccer9791
@fpsoccer9791 2 жыл бұрын
Ten Hag was absolutely fuming on the side of the pitch. He didn't look happy even though they were winning hahaha! I remember near the end of the game his brow was furrowed and he shook his head. But absolutely did see the United players actually play this game against Liverpool today. Very happy for y'all United fans, but don't let it get to your head.
@yellopops
@yellopops 2 жыл бұрын
if Rashford was in Sancho position for the first goal, he would either skyrocket it or ram it towards milner. Man has no composure at all. 💀
@Timbone07
@Timbone07 2 жыл бұрын
I see it as ETH finally adapting to our players instead of being too stubborn in his methods Eg De Gea not made to play out of the back
@rezar9908
@rezar9908 2 жыл бұрын
love JJ bits. make JJ permanent for all of Utd's games
@konateyssouf3699
@konateyssouf3699 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are great ! Great job thanks
@XzMattyxZ
@XzMattyxZ 2 жыл бұрын
I think that answers the question of whether ETH is willing to slightly bend his principles for the time being whilst he hasn't got the players to play out from the back, think he needed to if he wants to keep his job long enough to build and transition as you say more towards that.
@ryanbhambra9594
@ryanbhambra9594 2 жыл бұрын
Also nice to do a positive video on United, as a fan we obviously been in the mud for a a few years but other big teams have experienced poor periods before and I never see Tifo do a breakdown of when a top side has a bad period??
@MegaUMU
@MegaUMU 2 жыл бұрын
6:36 people on the reddit matchthreads were bashing on VVD but in reality he was covering for Gomez
@johnholkham2420
@johnholkham2420 2 жыл бұрын
Seems Liverpool May have a depth of squad issue. Henderson and Milner are good but perhaps a little old to plat in a 3 Man midfield.
@coysgub5599
@coysgub5599 2 жыл бұрын
the difference between the two managers for me is the misplaced loyalty klopp has to mediocre players, Henderson and Milner have been able to go under the radar for years because of the world class team they played in. but remove a few of those world class players and the weakness of those two is completely exposed. Whereas ten hag fielded a completely pragmatic team. Dropping the 80m centre back maguire, shaw and arguably the best player in the world ronaldo, who have just all been not good enough. That takes balls and it paid off, absolute masterclass from the dutchman
@stephenpalmer9375
@stephenpalmer9375 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Liverpool are usually a much better team with Henderson in it than without him. Just in the right position. But Liverpool were lacking a few obvious first teamers, and VVD was epically bad (which is something you can count on one hand over the last few years). No bias here - Spurs fan - but I sense this might be a bit of a false dawn for MU.
@bri1085
@bri1085 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenpalmer9375 Liverpool aren't a better team work Henderson in the team, he drags the team's collective performance down. If the other team put pressure in midfield Liverpool effectively play with a man down, his touch goes out the window, and despite the common myth he covers Trent he gets caught up the pitch and doesn't bother trackback. If there's a reason Liverpool didn't win the league, the blame is on him, in games like Brighton at Anfield or Chelsea and Brentford away.
@phatbi971
@phatbi971 2 жыл бұрын
Ten Hag masterclass!! I’m AWAKEEEE!! 🔥
@whalehead6566
@whalehead6566 2 жыл бұрын
It was similar to Ole ball but the difference being we played as a team with passing in triangles and an understanding of each others runs and positioning Long live ETH
@Timbone07
@Timbone07 2 жыл бұрын
I see it as ETH finally adapting to our players instead of being too stubborn in his methods
@zattwik
@zattwik 2 жыл бұрын
5:13 got me fell off my chair. Laughed too hard. JJ is so funny with that straight-face. 😂
@tommyshelbyobe9098
@tommyshelbyobe9098 2 жыл бұрын
Klopp's loyalty to Milner and Henderson could genuinely cost liverpool top 4 this season.
@pbhwang1719
@pbhwang1719 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos!! Ya'll are amazing! I just wish you would make a video about that Newcastle - Man City game. As a nufc fan I've been waiting for that video..
@jonathanhollick6947
@jonathanhollick6947 2 жыл бұрын
Came for the football analysis, stayed for the Bennachie T-Shirt
@yellopops
@yellopops 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair liverpool didn’t had their strongest lineup but i don’t really care it’s 3 points and a win. AND bloody rashford finally it’s about time
@samibensialie7829
@samibensialie7829 2 жыл бұрын
Ten hag really got to them I think. The differwnce between this team playing like their lives depended on it and the team against brentford. Especially you bruno fernandes 👏👏
@rishabprakash2541
@rishabprakash2541 2 жыл бұрын
this channel deserves so much more!
@alevz
@alevz 2 жыл бұрын
Maguire finally put in an awesome and spirited shift
@sweealamak628
@sweealamak628 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Gomez and Nat Philips are joint last place for the CB role. He has pace and protects a highline well but he's poor in the box, both in positioning and in the tackle. Trent for all his attacking talent lacks defensive instincts which can't be taught. Utd's win well deserved. YNWA
@moistoast2298
@moistoast2298 2 жыл бұрын
That team needs to start next game but switch mctom and elanga for Casemiro and martial. Not that those two were bad, they did very well but I think they are just better. Great win
@OG_Daz
@OG_Daz 2 жыл бұрын
Elanga was excellent. Not sure why Ten Haag took him off to be honest
@moistoast2298
@moistoast2298 2 жыл бұрын
@@OG_Daz He said “ when tired legs come technical ability is very important” have a very technically proficient number 9 allowed us to hold the ball up more and attack via carries centrally and as the video stated it allowed rashford to attack that left half space.
@OG_Daz
@OG_Daz 2 жыл бұрын
@@moistoast2298 Martial did well, just thought with Elanga and Rashford, we looked very dangerous. On another night, could of been 3-0 at half time
@1nacho566
@1nacho566 2 жыл бұрын
Man united is going to fall into a false illusion that they are good again. Once united face a team that actually plays, unlike Liverpool today. United is going to get a reality check.
@benmungai5978
@benmungai5978 2 жыл бұрын
Our starting line up was Henderson, Milner, and Elliot. Say what you want about experience, running all day, and whatever else, but that's not a premiership winning team.
@showmetheway2
@showmetheway2 2 жыл бұрын
Teams need to start attacking the Liverpool left more often. Everyone knows TAA plus Henderson is getting on now.
@bernardocorreia2402
@bernardocorreia2402 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. You guys do an amazing job! Keep it up
@this1989iou
@this1989iou 2 жыл бұрын
Slick touch screen work JJ. Unlike most professional footballers you're still improving into your 30s.
@kondauwishaka8286
@kondauwishaka8286 2 жыл бұрын
Was thoroughly impressed by Dalot’s intensity
@gauravmufc1
@gauravmufc1 2 жыл бұрын
I understood what they were doing from first 5 minutes into the game they were playing long balls and depended on counter attacks using this formula ten hag solved 2 problems at once he countered de gea's weakness on the ball by not letting him pass short and used the pace of our forwards to press liverpool into commiting mistakes the only difference was our defence they made all of this possible varane and martinez were excellent and malacia,dalot and mctominay covered well for them I saw mctominay and dalot having a good game after long time the players looked pumped and gave it their all and got the result if they can perform like this week in week out we can survive this season without major upsets although dont be too optimistic as i dont think they would finish top 4 as they need a more than counter attacks to win against teams that sit back and defend also dont know how long can ten hag bench maguire and shaw as long as he can we can have a stable defense, also the Ronaldo drama needs to end and it should be clear that no player however great a legend he is cant be greater the club.
@lyran5337
@lyran5337 2 жыл бұрын
The first time for years that united actually had the tactical advantage.
@Iaaam10
@Iaaam10 2 жыл бұрын
Heart breaking start of the season...
@nizzanator
@nizzanator 2 жыл бұрын
Been saying it for weeks now. Look at what happens when you play Rashford up front.
@mrreese2342
@mrreese2342 2 жыл бұрын
7AM, United won, seeing JJ and a video from Tifo, man such a vibe is going on
@trexx552
@trexx552 2 жыл бұрын
what a great morning coffee
@mrreese2342
@mrreese2342 2 жыл бұрын
@@trexx552 yeaah
@holybanjo
@holybanjo 2 жыл бұрын
As JJ correctly points out, it will take Ten Hag a while to get his team purring in a possession based game, this is a one off!
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