Mankar Camoran's paradise speech

The entire speech Mankar Camoran makes to the player as he travels across his paradise.
Apologies for the terrible quality of the video, I tried to do my best with a cheap capture card and only owning the console version of the game at the time.

[@LuizAntonio-zs7ko]

I love it when he goes batshit. "If a god can die, how does his heart survive? HE IS DAEDROTH! TAMRIEL AE DAEDROTH!"

[@ColonelBragg]

He should of said he is Daggoth Daggoth Ur since he had the heart of Lorkan

[@Sothas]

***** Dagoth Ur is Sharmat. That's a very different thing.

[@ColonelBragg]

Sothas the elder scrolls lore is confusing but i suppose that is intentional because there are always conflicting stories for everything in the game worlds

[@Sothas]

***** I spend literally every day with TES lore. I know a lot, far more than most, but I will never claim to know everything. There's just so much and that's what I love about it.

[@ColonelBragg]

Sothas at this point i'm still convinced the dwemmer became the "ideal masters"

[@KB-si5fx]

I actually liked him as a villain. His speech was interesting to listen to.

[@lucioagrazar3356]

Me too!

[@lucioagrazar3356]

@Eldritch Postman Praise BE Bro!

[@lucioagrazar3356]

@Eldritch Postman What are Scholarship, Love, and Mercy when compared to Fate, Night, and Destruction?

[@lucioagrazar3356]

@Eldritch Postman GODDAMN TRUTH!

[@lucioagrazar3356]

@Eldritch Postman It may sound Evil but for me Outlawing Necromancy was a mistake!

[@codafett]

Fantastic Voice Actor.

[@HUNTERSDREAM]

He's also General Zod back then.

[@Pokefan3332]

codafett he was the prophet of truth in Halo 3

[@SirHaroldMaguire]

He is a great actor in general IMO.

[@ImperatorBaldo]

The Phantom Manace SUPREME CHANCELLOR

[@ZRoberto399]

Yeah, very inspiring and believable. Makes me want to join his cult lol.

[@NickG40]

If only Mankar Camoran knew what the Champion would later go on to become Sheogorath, he wouldn't have trifled with him.

[@supercellodude]

It takes some time (decades?) for the mantling process to realize the Hero of Kvatch/Pelinal Mantled into the Daedric Prince. Still, it might've been interesting to learn if Mankar could perceive the fundamental tones of the Hero's soul being rewritten as he mantles Sheogorath.

[@vivecalmsivi679]

Taking shelter in a House of Troubles makes for an unsound mind.

[@cleoking6312]

Azura is cooler

[@TheRevanchists]

Camoran was obviously Dragonborn. He wore the Amulet of Kings around his neck...and only a Dragonborn can wear the Amulet.

[@Danche925]

He may be of the Dragon's blood but he's no Dragon born. If he IS Dragonborn he could never hold a candle to Talos, Reman Cyrodiil, Martin Septim, the 1st Dragonborn Miirak, or the last Dragonborn of the 4th Era. If he was Dragonborn, he would gave his all to unite Tamriel in the face of doom, or he would accept the fact that he is a child of Akatosh, and if he were to persue the way of the voice (which anyone could do if they dedicate themselves in the right way) they would still need to hold some sort of acknowledgment or reverance to Kyne for that gift. Or defy the Aedra, Daedra and all the divines and even put mighty Dragons to the sword to achieve Chim with great force.

[@revolverocelot1380]

@@Danche925 Being of dragon's blood and dragonborn are the exact same thing. Being dragonborn doesn't mean you have to do any of that either. And Mankar Camoran is only able to wear the amulet because he could rewrite the rules of reality in the paradise.

[@GT-wj3gl]

@@revolverocelot1380 exactly. The Dragonborn isnt required to actually defend tamriel. Hell, really the Last Dragonborn was the only Dragonborn that actually had such a destiny.

[@revolverocelot1380]

@@GT-wj3gl Exactly. I wonder why people seem to miss that simple fact.

[@CzechAvailabilitie]

Dragonborn hadn't been invented when Oblivion came out.

[@mrredbeardcharles2762]

"This heart is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other."

[@supercellodude]

There is a hypothesis that Akatosh is bound to Nirn by the Heart of Lorkhan acting as a cage of sorts. Perhaps affixing the Heart to a arrow fired by Auriel's bow (the mer aspect's weapon) created this link. In this interpretation, linear time "flows" from Ada-mantia to Red Mountain, while the phenomenon of "Dragon Breaks" are when Akatosh is temporarily unbound from this constraint to play out the myriad possibilities of events.

[@jerssh]

I really love how hes a villain that actually makes sense and you can understand why people would think like that.

[@reidparker1848]

Jersh Makes sense in that he is coherent.

[@phasmidd107]

Like an extremely effective cult leader.

[@ZRoberto399]

The best villains are the ones who actually make sense. Kinda like real life.

[@blueshit199]

my problem with villains like that is that most of the time I end up agreeing with them and wish you could join them instead of being forced to fight them.

[@edwardelric717]

How? There was no sense in anything he did or spoke of.

[@TheRevanchists]

Mankar Camoran will forever be in my mind, as the the most thought provoking antagonist I have ever experienced.

[@allankles]

Best bad guy speech from an end boss in a fantasy game. Mankar Camoran is forever a legend, unforgettable performance.

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

He and Dagoth Ur are side by side for me.

[@jesserichardson8116]

I’m very partial to Daddy Dagoth despite Oblivion being my first TES game, but I forgot just how good Mankar is

[@Jarbizu800]

Chancellor Valorum of Star Wars, Mankar Camoran of Oblivion, the Prophet of Truth from Halo... his voice is everywhere.

[@homemadepro]

That's Terence Stamp

[@MarkQuinn2k7]

It is moments like this that IMO make Oblivion a better overall game than Skyrim.

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

Alduin is the most boring villain of the entire series, it’s crazy that they could go from Mankar to that. He’s not necessarily a bad character concept, but he just wasn’t involved enough in the plot to be a good villain. He’s just an abstract concept. You don’t even get a chance to sympathize with him. The Underking, Dagoth Ur, and Mankar Camoran were all fascinating characters and a villain has to be a good character.

[@ridaread5193]

You didn’t just reply to a 9 year old comment….

[@ionescucosmin-theodor5758]

@@pinkfloydguy7781 Except, you miss the point. Alduin simply isn't meant to be involved in the game the same way that Dagoth Ur, Mankar Camoran or the Underking. One is an Aedric, divine being whose role is to bring the end times - the others are products of the world. Miraak and Vyrthur are comparable - and I'd argue that they've done a good job with them also.

[@KillerX10100]

Him and Dagoth Ur must get along well. They both talk their asses off.

[@MeepChangeling]

Not sure what to tell you other than stop playing RPGs. You clearly do not like story in your games so...

[@TheKushMinister]

@@MeepChangeling this comment was made 10 years ago dude

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

Except Dagoth doesn’t get basic lore wrong like this Bosmer coper

[@Danche925]

A madman through and through. Daedra are the embodiment of change not creation, they have no claim to Nirn or Mundus, but they have a knack for changing it in their own way. Though Dagon did not conquer Tamriel, his action changed Tamriel in such a drastic way. The greatest dynasty to ever rule over Tamriel the only Empire to have united Tamriel in it's entirety was ended, and the covenant Alessia made with the Akatosh was broken along with the Amulet of Kings.

[@OokileyGMR]

Let's not forget that the creation of Nirn was an evil plan from the start, since Lorkhan tricked the Aedra into building it, in such way they later on took revenge on him and torn his heart. I have a feeling even the divines regret creating it in first place.

[@emilykirova533]

@@OokileyGMR Lorkhan did nothing wrong.

[@sirbillius]

OokileyGMR Some say he tricked them, some say he did not. Who are you to say which is correct? All I know is that the decision to kill Lorkhan was not unanimous. In Auriel’s tyranny, he killed him to satisfy his own lust for revenge. Thus began the Merethic Era and the history of Tamriel would begin to unfold.

[@bebo2629]

@@sirbillius Who are we to say that Lorkhan is even real?

[@sirbillius]

@@bebo2629 Well who are the gods to say he's real? They referred to him first. We also have a first hand account of the gods existing from the Daedra or the end of Oblivion's main questline. However, I am of course talking about real in an Elder Scrolls sense of "reality." Which is to say, perhaps as unreal as any one else in the Aurbis.

[@troIIdier]

"How little you understand..." **proceeds to mismatch not one, not two, but three Daedric princes and their realms** Oh wow I can't believe Mehrunes Dagon came to see us in the Imperial City all the way from the Hunting Grounds!

[@ceasefire2825]

lies!! clearly Dagon's realm is Sovngarde.

[@ciaranmck4469]

@@ceasefire2825 old comment but that doesn't even make sense

[@ceasefire2825]

@@ciaranmck4469 If he claims that Lorkhan is a daedra...and since Sovngarde is Technically his realm in aetherius...

[@ciaranmck4469]

@@ceasefire2825 note the use of the word technically No god is born daedra its just a class I can't remember which god it was but one of them was a magna-ge who fled to oblivion and because she fled to oblivion she is deemed as a daedric prince when that's not really how it works And even tho souvenguard is technically his realm he doesn't rule it, he's dead, he has no conscience as far as we are aware the only part of him that remains is his heart and his shezzerines

[@DivineXPotato]

@Ice Cold Killa they were though all the basic realm names existed at that point. For multiple games they had. look in another comment but the short version is: MK was sleep deprived and fucked it up. Bethesda trusted MK so NO ONE fact chcked it and we got the modern day speech. Its something MK has talked about before and admitted he fucked up on.

[@VictorIV0310]

You cannot believe how relieved I am to finally hear another elven voice other than the generic npc ones.

[@7errafirma]

The low quality somehow makes this video better, adds to the uncanny feeling.

[@thnkng]

'Gaia Alata in the old tongue, a vision of the past...' Was Mankar Camoran's Paradise just a remake of Aldmeris?

[@thedemonhater7748]

SerSmartarse it’s whatever anyone wants it to be, and mehrunes is lord of change, so it’s very possible.

[@hishamaziz764]

Mankar Camoran fights you in four dimensions. Tamriel, Paradise; Power and Psychology. When I was going through Paradise, my brother was beside me, and his speech triggered an arguement between us on whether or not he is right.

[@marcelsmiley858]

Been spending most their lives, living in Mankar Camoran's Paradise

[@coolmzn226]

Michael Kirkbride at his finest.

[@Person1................68]

It actually wasn't.

[@David_J.E.]

@@Person1................68 "On writing Mankar Camoran's final speech (06/17/06) Apropos of nothing, I wasn't paid for Mankor's diatribe. It was in an email I sent to the friendly folks at Bethsoft when I got the "Commentaries" gig. That whole speech came from a section of said email where I attempted to get inside MC's head so I could understand how he might think, and how that thought would translate to his writing. Turns out, MC writes like me. Ah, well. Then Todd up and had Terrance Stamp record it at the voiceover sessions. I was pretty surprised-- I wish I'd known or I would've *really* went nuts with it-- but who could ever be mad at something like that? Terrance Freakin Stamp. Canon or not, my two cents is that MC is completely right, and Tamriel is just another, albeit very special, realm of Oblivion. But don't quote me...I didn't write this in-character." www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride It actually was.

[@stuckupcurlyguy]

@@David_J.E. Surprising absolutely no-one, one of the most iconic and interesting parts of an otherwise vanilla game was Kirkbride's doing.

[@glaonrielelsinoth7243]

It's kind of scary, Mankar says (Mythic Dawn Commentaries 3) that he actually killed his daughter Ruma and ''ate her with no bread''. Since he was from Valenwood it would be logical to eat her if he killed her, even though he is an Altmer. Also he later says ''...and made another, which learned, and I loved that one and blackbirds formed her twin behind all time'' which would suggest that he was able to ''create'', or should I say ''generate'' his own children.

[@lyvanskarox7312]

In fact that other daugther of his is Ruma,another altmer who appears in the shrine of Daegon and in Gaiar Alata.

[@todd2.08]

Glaonriel Elsinoth Mankar was originally a wood elf but the writers had to make him an alter because no one would take the guy seriously because wood elves in Oblivion looked like potato looking midgets

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

@@todd2.08 altmer/bosmer hybrid?

[@memorokei]

He changed his race with the Razor

[@nagihangot6133]

@@memorokei No way!!??

[@TheIGITnBLUE]

Terence Stamp is one amazing voice actor. (Well, amazing actor all together)

[@josephstalin6286]

It’s really cool he mentioned lorkhan

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

The Kirkbride stench is very strong in this speech.

[@daroth7127]

some of the most kirkbride diolouge outside some of what vivec or dagoth ur says

[@Party_Almsivi]

God tier villain

[@EmkobAllianceForce1]

I just realized, Mankar gives the wrong name for each Daedric Plane to their respective Daedric Princes. Meridia does not own "Coldharbour" she has the "Colored Rooms"; "Coldharbour" is Molag Bal's realm. Peryite is the ruler of "Peryite's Pits" not "Quagmire", "Quagmire" is Vaermina's realm. Mephala doesn't own "Moonshadow" that is Azura's realm; Mephala owns "Mephala's Web".

[@TheRevanchists]

That was the entire point, to show how crazy he was. Do you really think Bethesda would screw up that badly unless it was intentional? They were making a point.

[@EmkobAllianceForce1]

TheRevanchists Sure he's crazy but he's not stupid. This guy knew how to build Oblivion realms and read the Mysterium Xarxes, not to mention the fact that he knew of the Prolix Tower and CHIM. This seems more like a Bethesda fuck-up to me.

[@TheRevanchists]

EAF 1 It wasn't a Bethesda fuck up, Kirkbride himself wrote this speech. Do you really think Kirkbride would screw up that badly when hes the guy who invented half of the entire lore? This would never have gotten past their editing otherwise.

[@EmkobAllianceForce1]

TheRevanchists I realize that MK wrote alot of lore but he wasn't impervious to mistakes. One such mistake can be found in "Vehk's Teachings" in which he says that Auriel came from Anu and was equal to Sithis, when really Auriel was born from Anuiel and was an equal to Lorkhan. Mankar was deluded not fucking stupid. If it wasn't a mistake then I'm sorry, that's just bad writing.

[@EmkobAllianceForce1]

***** Spoiler: Isn't Delodiil in cold harbour or something.

[@blueshit199]

I feel ashamed for never giving this game enough credit. I've been too much into Morrowind to see Oblivion as anything more than a LOTR lookalike, but damn, it's so great.

[@revolverocelot1380]

Oblivions only problem is that it tries to look like LOTR. But it's still true to its insane lore.

[@andrewmosby6004]

Everyone gives Daddy-Dagoth all the love and rightfully so, but im suprised nobody ever talks about Camoran as a villain

[@blueshit199]

imagine if the inside of Dagoth Ur citadel was reality altered by Dagoth Ur in the fashion of the Paradise, like Vvardenfell as it was before the Sun's Death with the Heart Chamber at its center like Gaiar Alata

[@KillerX10100]

WE HOLD THE AMULET OF KINGS AT THE COMING OF THE DAWN AND I AM SPEAKING COMPLETE AND UTTER BULL!

[@garrisonsmith753]

I wish Alduin had more of a speech to make his sentience feel more real.

[@daroth7127]

you can translate alot of what he says, but his lore is more a part of the greater panthons hes a part of, and his role as the world ender is very similar to Jormungandr

[@legolastom]

Yes, theories range from Mankar Camoran just outright lying to developer fail

[@sodagirl1092]

SO SAYTH LORD DAGON, DRINK SKOOMA!

[@Colinireland1992]

Wilburgur moment

[@mattasticmattattack8546]

He did make a good point.

[@blueshit199]

spitting straight fax

[@7errafirma]

I sleep to this video a lot. I even downloaded it lest the uploader removes it in the future. It's just a perfect combination of Terrence Stamp's voice, Peace of Akatosh and the crickets at the beginning, etc.

[@sonofagunder]

this speech, the voice acting, the mysteriousness is more interesting than any gameplay

[@ciaranmck4469]

The entire speech was written by Kirkbride whilst he longer was working at bgs

[@UNFRGVN]

I Hope This Video Remains Here For Years To Come!

[@samuelwithers2221]

I've got good news for you buddy

[@franciscoriquelme8701]

Wow he's literally me

[@TheRevanchists]

The true genius of this speech, is how horribly inaccurate it is. Almost everything he says is factually wrong. This was clearly Bethesdas intentions, as they would not screw up their own Lore so badly. I believe this was meant to showcase just how blind he was, how badly Dagon has deceived him into believing his lies. The Origins of Dagon are actually ironic, as he was created by Alduin when he devoured his original form.

[@a.dykeman1980]

But for a madman believing more in the idea behind his actions than their actual result, it works perfectly. His ideas are interesting, though, like Nirn being the body to Lorkhan's heart. Of course, that heart no longer exists, so the point is moot.

[@samuelwithers2221]

@@blackskyirregular9876 MK is well known for being fucking mental. It's what makes him brilliant.

[@skyrim_crossing2839]

@@blackskyirregular9876 I'm pretty sure he did take LSD while writing the Lessons of Vivec 🤣

[@thedarknight307]

@@skyrim_crossing2839 From what I was able to read, thats actually true

[@MrSubzerobob]

The rumor of MK doing drugs while writing the metaphysics of TES is absolutely false and it hurts him and his wife, Lady Nerevar. Please stop perpetuating it guys.

[@obsidianzarok2361]

what a fucking great game

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

Michael Kirkbride is a G of a writer. I wished i could learned a lot from him

[@OneTrueVikingbard]

Kneel before Mankar!

[@americanoutcast9716]

I like how when you finally confront him after the huge buildup And all the speeches he's just like "YOUR HERE FOR THE AMULET, TAKE IT! then attacks you lol.

[@Hayden0312]

What if this was all real....Im staying in my house in the imperial city

[@samuelwithers2221]

Wabbajack wabbajack wabbajack

[@Derzak179]

You just reminded me of how much I fucking loved that game back then.

[@blueshit199]

A year later Terence Stamp would go on to voice the Prophet of Truth in Halo 3, I guess he has/had a thing for fanatic religious leaders

[@MoralDeQue]

THE STORY FINAL PART The Gods held council in a structure of their making called The Adamantine Tower, in High Rock. Lorkhan was deemed guilty and his heart was torn from him (his physical manifestation, The Lunar Lorkhan, Nirn's one big moon.) and fired into what would be known as Red Mountain, in Vvardenfell, Morrowind. The moon (with it's Godly spirit, Lorkhan, dead and without its core) cracked into two masses, Masser and Secunda(the 2 moons). Later, the Dwarves would find this very heart...

[@ansuz444]

It's amazing how easy it is to recognize that voice.

[@TheRevanchists]

Many of the Daedra ARE stronger than most of the Aedra. Only Akatosh and maybe Talos are a strong enough to resist, as the Aedra were weakened when they were tricked into creating Nirn.

[@revolverocelot1380]

Late to the party but akatosh is really broken and powerful. Before he was weakened he was the chief et'ada which meant he was supreme to every other aedra and daedra. And even in his weakened comatose state he still has enough power to BTFO daedric princes and separate mundus and oblivion.

[@lucioagrazar3356]

legolastom- I LOVE THIS SPEECH. WHAT GOOD MEMORIES! for a video with low quality it looks and sounds perfect.

[@Z3r0K1ll4h]

His voice is so damn awesome!

[@matthewboucher5625]

When I heard this in game the first time , I realized that Nirn and all Aetherius are subject of Lorkhan. He is the embodiment of all laws of physics , Prince Dagon is just another aspect of Lorkhan like everyone every being in existence. Daedra Mortals Divines are all equal in sustaining him. I basically shat myself, then promptly zero summed.

[@lukereilly9844]

MK's brilliance is creating such an incredible world that people will dismiss Camoran not as "evil" but as a mad hereitc.

[@daroth7127]

despite being right, increadible

[@FromHablit]

Can't wait to see what's next... Alduin giving a monologue? Who knows. But can't wait to see another brilliantly written "villain" speech, like Dagoth Ur's or Mankar's.

[@Dagoth_brunn]

😔

[@Grayhatt]

Awesome speech.

[@iambnc6168]

Moments and characters like this is what makes the elder scrolls an unique yet close to mind … its just like how it was with Tharn , Dagoth Ur and even Alduin… its just this perfection cannot be forgotten.

[@Party_Almsivi]

REFLECTION ENCHANTMENTS, SON

[@Man5on92]

Praise be!!!

[@n0where189]

He was do deluded. Tamriel is not Dagon's birthright, the daedra intentionally didn't help with creation. Remember the saying from Skyrim, "those who are not our ancestors".

[@ciaranmck4469]

That's not why it's dagons birthright that's not why he has a claim Dagon is well aware that he wasn't there when creation happened And you could argue that nirn is a deadric realm so technically speaking dagon and all of the other daedra have a claim to "liberate" it

[@Draco-pv8ie]

#MankarCamoranDidNothingWrong

[@mrminkman952]

He did assassinate the emperor and his sons

[@Draco-pv8ie]

Everyone saying Mehrunes Dagon is lying, I remind you. He is forward and direct in his methods, not a cloak and dagger master of deception.

[@blueshit199]

then again he resorted to using assassins for taking out Uriel Septim before invading Tamriel, and about 30 years earlier he used Jagar Tharn's ploy for his goals, and his artifact is in fact a dagger

[@SeemoreMeow]

Talking about Lorkhan and his heart. It just gives me chills when he speaks of liberation. The liberation the Stormcloaks want.

[@GanjaGremlin-1994]

Terrace Stamp as Mankar Camoran is the best voice acting in any game ever imo

[@ilm7bs828]

The guy who uploaded this now became a weeb, Tragic loss.

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

it DOES make sense though that Lorkhan was pretty much like the "anti-thesis" against the chief God Akatosh/Auri-El

[@lordedmundblackadder9321]

“Tamriel ae Daedroth” is way to hard a line to come from this train wreck of a game

[@ViktorEnjoyer]

*too

[@skyrim_crossing2839]

This still makes me laugh

[@Auzzie015]

I think Kirkbride wrote this. In a blogpost he said if he knew the speech would be put in game he would have made it much crazier.

[@TheRevanchists]

Perhaps, the fact he could wear the Amulet of Kings and yet you could not, was all the proof I personally needed. Afterall, only one with the blood of a dragon can wear it. Everyone is now aware Dragonborn is hereditary, but also a gift randomly bestowed. However "Dragonborn" will finally reveal how "Dragonborn" began in the first place.

[@daroth7127]

he made himself dragonborn in a ritual using mehrunes razor.

[@swenoyme9049]

Best antagonist of all the elder scrolls games.

[@KinCrusader96]

Terence Stamp also did the prophet of truth in Halo 3. he has a great voice for a villain. but it would be cool to see him be a hero.

[@Bek359]

I don't know much about the Elder Scrolls series' previous canon, but I think that it makes a much more interesting story if Camoran is telling the truth.

[@supercellodude]

Despite the crazy, the way Mankar is able to cut and carve the fundamental tones of his soul using Mehrunes' Razor does give a kernel of truth to certain, specific methods documented in the Mysterium Xarxes. In-game, he has 2 birthsigns and has the abilities of 3 races (Nord, Breton, and Altmer) as well as Dragonborn status to hold the Amulet of Kings. Still, Dagon was using him as a tool because despite the Magna Ge crafting him to represent hope, he cannot rebuild or recreate as Mankar has been tricked into believing. Nirn would've been annexed into the Deadlands, Alduin would return and realize how screwed things are, and the Kalpic cycle would've occured with Alduin eating the world again.

[@Varyalover]

Is there a video of Camoran's speech in Lake Arrius, without let's players talking over him, and without annoying censorship sounds?

[@BATTRA_THE_MOTH]

When she says Tamriel Ae Daedroth, she's a keeper

[@RanisAthrys]

I agree. Away with false Nine Divines. Praise the Reclamations!

[@gr3ybrun1x66]

Ranis Athrys False? If you had played Morrowind,you would've known that the Divines exist... I mean you talk to an aspect of Talos and you meet an aspect of Mara.

[@OokileyGMR]

@@gr3ybrun1x66 By "false" it isn't implied that they don't exist, but simply that they're not worthy of praise

[@MoralDeQue]

THE STORY PART 2 ...leaving magic. Upon departing for Aetherius (The Aedras' domain) he tore though Oblivion, leaving a massive hole for Aetherius' light to burn through(Tadaa, their Sun, called the Magus). His children spirits fled with him, burning various routes through Oblivion themselves and leaving smaller holes(what you see as stars). Lesser spirits, called earthbones, filled Nirn with Life. Lorkhan was marked a trickster for tricking the Eight gods to disrupt status quo by making Nirn.

[@jasonfenton8250]

It's a shame, this speech really illustrates how deranged Cameron is, but only players who know the lore will get it. Average players who try to pay attention to lore, but aren't well read on the subject yet actually believe his ramblings, and players in it for the stabbing will be completely lost in his speech. If only Oblivion communicated the lore concepts he references better to the player. Someone who just played Oblivion would have no idea why they are called the Mythic Dawn for example.

[@OokileyGMR]

He may be "deranged" but in a way I agree that the Aedra are not worthy of worship.

[@Netfreak8]

pretty extreme way of speech he almost talked me into joining The Dawn if it was a choice O.o

[@RomanFlessona]

i love paradise..its my favorite part of the game lol...plus Mankar's speech makes it awesome (: TAMRIEL AE DAEDROTH! x)

[@ihavesnacks4186]

Yes, Mehrunes Dagon is technically the main villain of Oblivion. But his second hand Mankar Camoran? One of the best villains in the entire series. I wish Alduin had this level of complexity and presence.

[@ciaranmck4469]

I heard they had Michael Kirkbride write his back story the commentaries and this speech and I'm absolutely not surprised They need him back again

[@nytrodioxide]

Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees how much he resembles Mok from Rock & Rule - Vocally, physically, personality, and even his whole motivation is pretty much the same.

[@allankles]

@EdikShepherd I think his metaphysical heart lives on, the physical one was destroyed.

[@ofnair]

@EdikShepherd It's not clear whether the heart was destroyed, or merely set free.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Anyone else defeat Mankar in Dark Brotherhood armor? Evil assassin saving the world.

[@SealDude]

sheogorath is the same who did the guards (male imperial) and lucien lachance ofc

[@shipleyorion]

The Knights of the Mythic Dawn will return my friends

[@Ninja1Ninja2]

Well, you did, after all hit Alduin with Dragon Kryptonite, and fought him with the three guys who first sealed him in an Elder Scroll. Not to mention, the Aedra can't make physicsal forms (ie; final scene of Oblvion), so 'Alduin', the one you killed at least, was just another dragon who was possessed by the real Alduin; since Paarthurnax refers to him as his brother, which hints that he is a false god among dragons, like Vivec and his Tribunal.

[@Toxin___InterHalfer]

Upon hearing the speech, Kirkbride regretted he didn't write it even more insane

[@daroth7127]

yea he's just making too much sense

[@megamanx2056]

Give me the elder scrolls, i promise i won't get all political three scrolls later

[@FUJIIDEW]

He also plays the Prophet of Truth in Halo 3. Fitting right?

[@Party_Almsivi]

@The Revanchists oh shit dude...you're right...

[@SeemoreMeow]

So that just Means Lorkhan is coming to be the lord of Tamriel. Great.

[@artemisarrow179]

I miss Elder Scrolls villains that actually had motivation and could articulate them

[@TheBluePretender]

i thought the heart of lorkhan was distroyed by the narivarine to rid vivec sotha-sil amalexia and dagoth-ur of there stolen godhood in morrowind

[@MineCraftIntensity]

Coldharbour is Molag Bal's plane not Meridia's

[@Newworld444]

If you could cut out your footsteps, the drawing of the sword, and some other small sounds, as well as the change in the music, then this would be perfect.

[@OuterRimPride]

The Great Journey is upon us brothers-... wait, I mean ahhh open those gates we need more daedra in Tamriel!

[@E-Brightvoid]

The Hero of Kvatch did not care

[@onlycorndog6322]

Kneel before Zo...I mean Lord Dagon.