MapleStory Still Exists? (The Weird Age of Free MMO's) | Billiam

[@billiam]

This video took a lot of love to make! It would mean the world if you could comment/like/share etc.

[@Lucaz172]

If you get any info PLEASE make a tiger followup video. I played Maplestory through the 2000s and would love some closure on the tiger drama

[@sonofriggnarok9320]

Why don't you just ask your fanbase to play a game with you that you're making a KZbin video about? You got 176K subs I am sure there is someone who'd be down lol.

[@johnkoch9315]

I don’t know why I didn’t ever think of this before when you did videos on Club Penguin, Neopets, and other things in that vein but my first thought upon seeing the video was PLEASE DO DRAGONFABLE! I guess because I view these two as rivals/competitors along with Runescape. I thought Maplestory was lame and people who played RuneScape were like people who played wow. I was one of those kids. I was also like “you use aim, thats so lame, I use Skype” before Microsoft which is around the time I stopped using Skype and having friends to speak to on it. I also lost interest in dragonfable about a month after I got the dragon amulet bought for me because I had a good report card. I’m off to rethink my life.

[@betarad8888]

For your next MMO, I think you should do that old ben 10 one that was shut down. It was. a sort of RPG, where you play as your own alien fusion.

[@adilbeart]

I knew Tiger personally, he's nothing as what people are saying about him. He was a cool friend, and we even exchanged numbers but we didn't get a chance to meet in real life when I was in the states due to distance. I may still have his phone number, though I haven't contacted him in over 8 years so I don't know how helpful I can be regarding clarifying this story.

[@rarepepe7830]

If you didn't get to play Maplestory pre pirate class, you missed out fam

[@Bohan716]

Guess I missed out 😭😭😭 I joined a few months before Cygnus came out

[@RyanDotEXE]

You missed training at b3 as a cleric for a few hundred hours just to level pre z3 maps. Zzz

[@PlaguedByEarth]

I went back to it a couple years ago. It's still pretty good. Pretty hard to run out of content.

[@xyoopridex]

I started when there were only original 4 classes, lvling was a nightmare but the community was amazing and it truly felt like I was going on an adventure, I miss those days 🤣😂😢😫😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@wheeliehunter6937]

@@xyoopridex man makes me cry a little bit, i played back when MS was beta, those were the days, a whole week to get to lvl 10, a whole month to lvl 30 on good days, grinding on MS was fun when you had a group of friends.

[@김용기-y4i]

I'm a Korean who lived in the US between 1997 and 2001. Maplestory is a Korean game so it was naturally incredibly huge in our country at the time. But I had no idea it was also big in the US. The fun thing is the Korean server also had these legendary players who were always on top of the leaderboard and just like tiger Korean players also had so much speculation about them. Anyways it's pretty surprising to maplestory on your channel and I like it.

[@whoisjai]

I only recognized this game because BTS' Seokjin plays it lmao

[@adjcsee4476]

As someone who throughly loved MS Im disappointed how they changed it so much that its not even at all the same as it used to be. The first 5 classes will forever be known as legendary. Because you had to be one hardcore mofo to actually lvl them up when it was just them. Players now will never know the pain of having to grind HOURS killing mobs and questing to get to higher lvls.

[@Layvee]

It's funny how Tiger, Fangblade and suuushi are known as the old school legends, yet before any of them the #1 spot was held for a long time by a player named Xlazhar (Gio) who eventually deleted his account while holding the top rank. I'm surprised how little people know about him but I guess that was before MapleStory started to become mainstream or had a solid ranking system, the first one to hit level 100 was Prodigy who was surpassed by Xlazhar later on who then hit 120 first. Shynobi, Shiriko among others were also close around that time. Interesting video on MapleStory's history, brought back some good ol' memories!

[@verafitria3862]

It was me

[@NoName-lh9xo]

Yes, Tiger is my uncle. He actually works at Nintendo now.

[@nihongodoumei5904]

Legit

[@ClaíomhDClover]

what the...

[@chipskylark5500]

And Suuushi is my girlfriend, she says my penis is small

[@GiantEnemyMudcrabz]

@@chipskylark5500 You see everyone, this is why you don't share account details.

[@hectorramos3781]

So, tiger comes to your bedroom every night?

[@valysheev]

I think maplestory was the first time i saw people get married online smh

[@kodi1722]

Oh God the nostalgia

[@1129shino]

Real people did it for the loot, no real love online

[@NaJk93]

Actually attended plenty with my guild back in the day. Most times it was an actual RL couple that played together.

[@rawrxdnuzzlesuwu]

@@NaJk93 Me and my friend married each other in maple story in like grade 4 or 5 because we liked each other

[@OfficalMrToxicBear]

My first time was RuneScape

[@thsperandio]

I still remember the day FangBlade reached the maximum level in the game. What a day to remember, everyone was tracking his progress. I had lots of fun playing with a friend since 2006.

[@briancaro196]

I remember that too, everyone was rooting for Suuuushi (I was from Khaini) then Fangblade came out of nowhere and reached 200 first.

[@jackg5321]

@@briancaro196 Oh I came after 2006, they had already reached 200 by then, but I'd always remember on the front page would show off the rankings. I also remember top players would change their appearance through cash shop, fang blade always remained the same

[@rawrxdnuzzlesuwu]

@@jackg5321 Fangblade and his damn crusader helmet are what always stood out to me and he's the one that sticks out in my mind when i think of maplestory

[@xBbymichelle101]

Having played Bera ages back and remembering being hyped about tracking the top players, I remember how wild it was to see his IGN in a "Got married" notice on the server lmao megaphones went off for minutes and Amoria? the marriage place was a nightmare lag fest lol. Havn't played MS in ages. Funny to think how often as a kid my friends and I would try to see him and I think one time he took off his mask which made everyone go wild. his in game wife at the time seemed pretty friendly too from the times we saw them.

[@popcronmike4376]

my brother used to trade onyx apples with fangblade

[@AA-hg5hh]

Oh my god... I remember fan made maplestory videos with stories that I used to get so invested in and they included Fangblade and Tiger as characters

[@foxfoxfox6799]

Same!! Those fanmade animations really contributed a lot to my memories of maplestory lol. I remember dray86 making a lot of videos on these ancient stars.

[@mega17]

That guy's still making fanimations. Most of them stopped cause Nexon dropped copyrights on everyone for using the sprites.

[@emoducky]

"Remembers the horrors of camp piggy pie and how it was never finished"

[@lukaastraearose5227]

like Kung Fu Fighting? and cooking by the book? lmao

[@xCrystalSky]

I loved watching “Maplestory Music Videos” when I was younger. It made me want to download Sony Vegas Pro and try (and suck) at making them LOL.

[@BlueDavrial]

"but unfortunately no one wanted to play with me" Billiam when you're gonna review an MMO you should put out an open call to your fans via KZbin and Twitter to come play along with you

[@briancaro196]

Yes! I would've loved to do some Kerning City and even some Ludi Pq with Billiam and some other people.

[@SubjectZ3RO]

This should’ve been common sense honestly lol

[@Gloeiii]

Enough people to do kpq lpq on old-school Maple.com

[@AlexRiversMusic]

Davrial aka Blue Mario I would play with his fine self all night

[@ComicDrake]

This was my jam when I was a kid! I think their promotion with CVS is why I prefer it to Walgreens to this day.

[@mobilesuitjesse]

Hey Comic Drake! I haven't seen your videos in a while. I also wasn't expecting you be comment in these videos

[@ComicDrake]

@@mobilesuitjesse, I guess you missed my collab with Billiam.

[@mobilesuitjesse]

@@ComicDrake 4 real? I'll check that out, it's just crazy since the memories I have watching your videos was the Decoding The Mega Man Timeline back in Matpat's channel. Wow! Time Flies!

[@KurffyOriginal]

I remember watching you back when u were trailer game and working eith game theory

[@DSoulA3]

Maple story did what? :O

[@MorbidZach]

I remember tracking Tiger down a few days just to watch him train. It was a pretty common practice in the Scania server to have a tiger sighting

[@cherrybansx7398]

i thought you tracked him irl and watched him on a train i should sleep...

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

Haha salute bro, I did the same. Scania OGs

[@joshuaburns4797]

back when level 30 took 2 months to reach

[@Ryusola]

Yup found him in Ludibrium in the rooms before Palpatus once. Damn that was so long ago...

[@JoeyGoneEmo]

Good Shepherd it took me like a year to get to level 30

[@vichetisicky]

The flea market gave me retail experience before I got a retail job

[@fogg0]

Lmao right?? I remember finally being able to set up a store in there and had to stay logged in so I didn't lose a spot and my store stayed up. Man. Those were the days.

[@NixDreamtIncorp]

FREEMARKET not flea market wtf lmao

[@fogg0]

NixtDrea lmao my bad! I just went with it cause I loosely remembered what it was named. Been a while!

[@jungkookbts2819]

Literally idk bout new games nowadays but ms rlly did taught us a lot when we were kids. Like it taught us how to type fast when it came to spamming items, roasting ppl, scamming, making profits at the free market lmaoooooo

[@jungkookbts2819]

Also it exposed us to our first bargaining experience lmaooo 8 yr old me was wildin in the day 🤣

[@grizzlyowlbear3538]

-A game for the DS -A 25 episode anime And last but not least -A Billiam video

[@GliffeRox]

You forgot about the tcg

[@briancaro196]

I miss the TCG T-T

[@chipskylark5500]

Whaaaaaaaaa~~~~t??? An anime??? I MUST EXPERIENCE THIS, HOW?

[@--_--_--_--_]

Also a really fucking good 3ds game.

[@stormerbuzz352]

And the mobile game

[@rpsyco]

What ACTUALLY happened to Tiger. His character came out of the game with hyper realistic blood and hyper realistic eyes and ate him. The admins had to ban the character to prevent this from happening again.

[@novaangle2183]

lmao oh god

[@jadenvallejo8990]

thats not how physics work thats is just creepypasta

[@brandonlowe3299]

I can confirm I was there

[@swawanify]

Fangblade was never in Tiger's guild, Fangblade was in the Bera server, and Tiger was in Scania. Fangblade was the first player to reach level 200 in GMS

[@lotusthemermaid]

Now, I aspire to the level of internet infamy that warrants at least one fanfiction made about me.

[@cherrybansx7398]

inb4 you get paired with sonic the hedgehog or greg from diary of wimpy kid

[@Liggliluff]

Someone should write a fanfiction as a reply ... maybe someone spent 2 months on one so far?

[@lotusthemermaid]

@@Liggliluff I'm very hopeful. ❤

[@internetnobody6754]

True Clout

[@SneakyCober]

“WIZNET” It.. it’s Wizet. :’( OG times man..

[@Sam-be4yy]

I grew up in Korea so I naturally grew up playing Maplestory. I can tell that Billiam took A LOT of time understanding the game, researching the history, and reflecting on the game features. The stuff he realizes not only is profound, but it also shows how much he loves the game and games in general. I respect you man!

[@xSoda_Pressedx]

tiger played in scania. FangBlade was in Bera. They couldn't have been in a guild together. From what I remember Tiger was banned because he and his in game wife where both meso farmers.

[@chipskylark5500]

Nah, Tiger was banned because he was actually multiple people playing his character together --- farming in shifts, bypassing the limit one person could play by himself

[@CursedMarkZain]

It was 5 people account sharring. Gavin also took the account and changed the password. But later a hacker was able to delete his character and resell his ign to someone who we all assume was a tiger fan boy and lvl it up to 200 a few years back

[@Iiterally]

Wasn’t there an IGN wipe a few years back?

[@ZeroGForce]

September 8, 2005... that's the day I joined MapleStory. Word of mouth about Tiger on old forums and message boards was actually my inspiration for eventually taking on the Spearman line of warrior classes with my main. This was long before "4th Job" was a thing, before Ossyria was a continent but only four major locations: Orbis, the El Nath Mountains, Aqua Road and Ludibrium. Anyone who was anyone in that game usually played in one of the game's oldest two servers: Scania and Bera _(I was a proud Broan, a server that was only days old when I first joined)._ So imagine my shock when I heard that Tiger had been banned from the game for... ...no one really knows. It was more than a decade ago, and every last lead when trying to find out comes to a dead end. People will tell you that Tiger was banned for hacking, but people often made it their mission to watch Tiger train, sometimes for hours at a time... others will tell you that he had a falling out with his in-game girlfriend, or that he became clinically depressed when his father died which eventually led to his own suicide... and fewer still will try to pass off all three as being true. Without a time machine, it would be impossible to tell what really happened, but even still, the event was so embroiled in needless drama and backstabbing from former friends that not even the original players of the accounts remember the same event going the same way. But regardless, most of the people who were playing the game way back when have up and left, looking for new avenues to explore. Even myself, an avid player of the game for nearly twelve whole years with over thirty characters across two accounts, finally hung up my hat when I realized: "This isn't as fun as it used to be." I and many others spent more money on that game than it rightfully deserved, money we will never see again... all for the prospect of fleeting digital fame in the younger days of the Internet. You either realize your mistake early and quit the game, or the game shows no mercy and unceremoniously kicks you out.

[@ignaciodelapuente2985]

Don't worry about the mula, fellow mapler. I've been using my current main since 2010 (a proud Bellocanian Aran) and I've only given Nexon 30 bucks (actually, I was 12 at the time, so my parents paid it all for me... yeah, no lost money since 2008).

[@TwoTangerinesYT]

God I was obsessed with Maple Story once upon a time. This really takes me back :o

[@isekaitrash9108]

Where my Hunting Grounds 1 and Pig Beach homies at?

[@kodi1722]

AFK at Hene Hunting Grounds

[@chipskylark5500]

Hene Hunting Ground Hoes

[@oliverlacota3112]

Oof, reading that made my chest tighten slightly with nostalgia.

[@leopimentel609]

Killings boars for leather to make some gloves.

[@NotoriousMinded]

Loool when there was no 4th job, I was at hene with my 110 I/L all the time x)

[@RemixMyLife_]

Maplestory is a drug that I cannot beat. I've been playing for the past 13 years.

[@abuck7909]

Is it still good? I tried maplestory 2 for like 30 mins a few months ago but its just not the same.

[@SnoopyDreadd]

You'll get over it soon enough. I used to have a huge addiction as well but got over it

[@HyperSpazzm]

i still pop on in the summer to get the anniversary shit every year and i end up playing non stop for a few weeks then wait again for next year

[@ky4you]

Yeah I've been playing since 2008 and hop back on to see what's changed every year or so.. I tried again a few months ago just looking for cool friends but had no luck so I kinda fell out. Kinda tempted to try again

[@xtoxicurex]

same. off and on.

[@gali2226]

I honestly hyperventilated when your health continued to reach ~5hp and your potions weren’t on like the home button or something

[@Vonmoonlight]

gali Paiss I was about to have heart attack for being a Lv. 19 beginner and not upgrading job yet.. And at the tutorial, they even mentioned you get a job adv at 10 excluding Mage at 8

[@myhandle365]

Thank you!! xD

[@JuliKayeArtistry]

I still have my account and first character I started in 2005. And you're right, it really doesn't feel like the same game. I still enjoy it, but there's nothing like that og game.

[@richiec2264]

JuliKayeArtistry lol same! I started back in 2007 ish

[@Sirg17x]

I like how your videos tend to cover my childhood or topics that I was aware of during my childhood, but never fully understood.

[@sabrinafournier1502]

I LOVED MAPLESTORY omg. Everything about the aesthetics and the fantasy and the music was (and still is) totally up my alley. I get hit with so much nostaliga whenever I hear the music. Memories of middle school and sharing the one home pc with my brother, man. Good times.

[@lukaastraearose5227]

do you ever just. Hear the Ellinia bg music and break out into tears because waaoh.... memories.

[@sabrinafournier1502]

@@lukaastraearose5227 Yes!!! The title music, Henesys, and Kerning city are also burned into my mind. That slime party quest, haha.

[@tabbris]

Man I don't wanna be THAT guy but I feel like this video would've been a lot better as a collaboration with some one who played the game. Other than that I tought it was ok.

[@Applesgosh]

very true

[@waterbottle2031]

tabbris it’s interesting to see the viewpoint of someone who isn’t familiar with the game and has no biases.

[@tabbris]

@@waterbottle2031 yeah of course I know. I actually kind of hate myself for writing the comment. The thing is Billiams videos are usually so in depth that I can't help but feel like this video was a little lacking. Also my comment comes from a very personal place. Maple story was a huge part of my life so I kind of feel a little cheated.

[@waterbottle2031]

tabbris I played from 2007 - 2012 and have come back once a year for a week or two since then. I feel like he did the series justice. It’s about taking off the rose colored goggles and seeing it from a different perspective. Your opinion is valid too, though.

[@insuperablew3552]

tabbris asshole

[@TiMSKiii]

lol so Tiger was just Maplestory Zezima

[@U_vejs]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF REMEMBERING THESE WEIRD WEBSITES GIVES US A "HOTEL HABBO" VIDEO!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭💜💜💜💜

[@NettoSaito]

You mean Habbo Hotel? Shockingly that place is still crazy active, and even has a mobile version lol

[@T3hXinro]

God, I got back into Habbo back in 2013 and it was incredible. Such a different world from the 2003 - 2008 days I played during originally.

[@hectorramos3781]

Club penguin is not amused

[@LiteDisc]

Holy, I remember playing games on Habbo Hotel all the time. Murder Mansion, Takeshi's Castle, FF, Big Brother, so many fond memories. Also remember waking up at 6am to play with my friends on the UK servers because I lived in Canada.

[@ShadzennProductions]

Always loved and always will love Maplestory. Even years after dropping the game and even the private servers I played the game really is amazing. Fun and hardcore grind, made plenty of friends and extremely fun when you can actually do Zakum/Horntail/PinkBean. Hell this youtube channel of mine was orignally made for reviewing Maplestory private servers. If an official v.62 or whatever version were to be released would be very cool. And Tiger truly was a legend. And another awesome thing that spawned from this game was the Maplestory animations which have always been impressive and still are amazing to see made to this day.

[@FizeeRascal]

Would love to see you do a video on Spectrobes! Great little series with a short lived hype

[@Elehk99]

FizeeRascal I greatly second this

[@betamanx]

spectrobes was so fun! it was a huge part of my childhood. i beat beyond the portals at least once a year.

[@spidermanrulez2]

I forgot about that game and yet I still have it collecting dust in a toy box eith my other DS games. Such a great game.

[@adam-ns1he]

wowwwww i forgot this shit

[@noneyabuisness3547]

Yes, please! I was introduced to Spectrobes via origins, became hooked, and was absolutely stoked to find out that they had DS games. I ended up going to my local video game store, got beyond the portals and Spectrobes for less than $5.

[@briancaro196]

I really miss the old Maplestory. It happened to me one time that I was used to help new players when I was bored of training, I wasn't over leveled or anything but being lvl 7X back in 2007 ish was somewhat respectable, so I helped doing quest even gave a bit of money to buy potions and stuff, Maplestory back in the day was a rough start from scratch, anyways, I quitted for around 6 months and came back a bit lost, so I joined a new guild and stuff, a small guild with no more than 15 ppl, the awesome part is that the guild leader and at least 6 members knew me because I helped them back when they started. Man it felt so good watching those people that not only remembered me, they made a custom of the guild to help new players whenever they could. Is a part of Maplestory I always have near my heart.

[@Lem0nSlice]

now do one for Runescape (old school) and Mu! then the holy trinity of the MMOs I played as a child would be finished

[@adryanus9]

and metin... jesus i spent way too much time on mu... never played maple tho

[@kainhighwind2]

And now I have to see if MU Online is still a thing...

[@Lem0nSlice]

@@adryanus9 never heard on that one. But I was reminded of the forth lost mmo I played. Flyff!

[@lazard90]

where my Ragnarok online bois at?

[@d4rkgriff1n3]

@@kainhighwind2 Yeah man, when I was like 12, I was STONED in MU

[@MWSJoey]

That Billiam video might be the best thing to come out of maplestory in the last few years.

[@ignaciodelapuente2985]

Now that the second season of Peplock Holmes has released, I hope you changed your mind.

[@slowmoe1686]

So you're implying the Billiam video > Maplestory 2? Spicy

[@LynnHermione]

I learned about Maplestory from BTS' Jin, he's been playing since the game launched and is apparently a high level player. Now he designed elements with his band and he's judging a character contest!

[@justanotherisekaiprotagoni7293]

TALK ABOUT ADVENTURE QUEST, and all of its spinoffsssss

[@MiyukiYuki]

Lol yesss

[@lukaastraearose5227]

you know it has lots of spinoffs when you cant remember the name of the game but the mechanics :') and finding no one else who remembers it too :'')

[@LikaLaruku]

I still play this for 1-2 weeks a year. Have the entire soundtrack burned to several CDs. Loved Friend Story. The DS & 3DS games never got an english release. My tablet refuses to play the mobile version.

[@iEmoz98]

but the ds and 3ds version had English translation patch. I have played both some years ago and the only untranslated thing is Maple DS's Magician story. Other jobs are translated

[@lukaastraearose5227]

hey if you love friend story can you tell my dumb ass how to get past that ONE map where you have to jump over shit in a timely manner because no matter what i do the low time limit kicks my ass >:(

[@lemons2300]

I used to listen to MS music on my mp4 player and SD card speaker. Fun times... Before I played MS I was ripping CDs of music I found on Newgrounds lol

[@daydreamerjim6603]

I actually miss the days when someone could become a legend by being the top of an MMO leader board. Like I remember seeing Tiger in game once and everyone on the map were going wild cause we all saw him at a relatively low level area. It was amazing! Sucks to here the legend was allegedly kinda crappy though 😂

[@quotetherobot749]

Wait wait wait wait, aren’t you that bara artist on Twitter? How the hell did I find you here?

[@ibriicake]

I never knew about all of the drama about tiger, sushi, and etc. I played this game since i was in 3rd or 4th grade. I was even lucky enough to be able to see the ads of Maplestory on TV when I was growing up. A girl that was in a tutoring program introduced me to the game and I got hooked on the game instantly. I can definitely agree that the game's colors can really shine when you are able to play this game with other players. EVEN within a year later since this video was posted. I went back to the game this year just to see the majority of the areas being a complete ghost town. I'm honestly glad someone else has the same perspective as me with Maplestory. I really appreciate that you cover the type of games or products that are so far down the 90's-00's rabbit hole. I'm glad I was able to discover your channel by accident lol.

[@Lifesizemortal]

thanks for uploading man. the depression is really hitting hard today

[@lyleabner2475]

Hope you get better soon dude.

[@pepsiman9882]

Huh depression

[@zainiikhwan9405]

Virtual hug for you~

[@carmenz8955]

I missed everything about Maplestory, it was a very social type of game where bosses required you to have a bishop to heal, dispell, and resurrect you, where party quests were actually important and the party quests areas were filled with people wanting to do the LPQ,moon bunny, sleepy wood, the carnival party quest, all these memories are slowly fading and I wish it didn't. I miss when the main transportation to certain places were on those ships where you would wait with people, it's something so small but it made the game feel less empty. It's been 10 years and I just got back on maple after quitting for a year, it isn't the same anymore and it never was. I don't know exactly when it changed, but so many things have been added and removed to the point where maplestory just isn't what it used to be. Weddings are now just a chatroom able to fill 8 people, free market and the stores have been removed, you can basically solo everything, no one does party quests anymore. Everything is solo based now, you don't rely on anyone, you can do things on your own. Maybe that is good for some people, but I missed the old days when it was very friendly and social, I can't say Maplestory is doing well at all. What they are currently showing is that there aren't enough people to even go large grouped things like party quests, instead they do 30 minute events for people to join like bingo or a jump quest. That isn't enough and I still strongly believe that maplestory is dead as fuck compared to a few years ago, it isn't attracting new people. Everyone I know in my server have been playing for a long time, they are in their early or late 20s.. Once they quit there won't be people playing this game.

[@7evive]

S/o that's deep as fuck. Almost want to try it

[@sN0WsT4R]

Maple Story was at WoW's throat. One of the greatest games I've ever played

[@PotKun]

Maplestory has always been one of my favourite MMOs. Still go back to it all the time. You can NEVER truly quit Maplestory.

[@aa-id7li]

I remember playing this game when it first came out, for years. It’s kind of strange but I still really miss it. I’ve gone back a few times but it’s never been the same.

[@MiyukiYuki]

I used to spend so much time playing Maplestory, it really brings back memories. I joined during beta around 2004 and played on and off after Big Bang for a while, but I had to quit for real when my windows XP computer ran out of storage space LOL. I also watched a lot of fan-made content like maple series and MMVs and made some too. The community was really big and alive before 2013 I think.

[@divinefistkazuya]

Remember staying on the login page for that sweet intro music? I 'member.

[@somerandomseal3761]

Former MapleSEA player here. Didn't expect someone to make a video on "old-school" maplestory in 2019, youtube recommend must have caught me watching some maplestory 2 videos in the past and brought me here. It's a really nice nostalgic trip to see the game in its former glory, and a part of me wishes to be able to go back to the good old days. I remember having to roll perfect 4s on stats that you didn't need when making a new class. I remember when the community was friendly and helpful, competition wasn't toxic and playing together was fun and interactive. Now the game feels like an empty shell, there are just about as many or more players than in the past, but no one paid you any mind as they went about their own businesses. You were surrounded by people, but you still felt alone. Monetization grew to an absurd level, you were seeing a single piece of equipment being sold for thousands of real life dollars. Everything just started to go downhill. This game felt like a lifetime ago, and I'm not even THAT old yet. Cheers for bringing up some sweet memories.

[@skylerkuhn5898]

Oh man i remember Tiger, fangblade and Suushi! I didn't know them personally but I played on their server at the time they were charting. Back before bigbang, pirates or even lv 200. When people were .01% away from the level cap, they'd grind on snails at Henesys Hunting Grounds 1 while a crowd of players watched in anticipation for the LV up animation! Man what a dumb childhood lol. I remember the many rumors of tiger's identity. One of my favorites was that he was actually 7-12 Korean guys who play in shifts lol. Another was that the girlfriend supposedly hacked his account and deleted it, but that one didn't run long. Loved the video but you didn't even mention Maple Story 2! It just hit the west last year but the rumors had been hyped for ages, and it's actually pretty cool with the emphasis on user created content. Maybe do a video on that too? ;)

[@Axemun]

Oh man my key moment in maplestory was defeating doom flounder solo for the first time, that's when I thought i was like a pro.

[@edgararcega3046]

This game was literally my childhood. Been playing since launch. Good times... good times. Now I have a child of my own that plays it that's how old I got lol. I remember those 2x exp cards that activated automatically during certain times after you purchased them and I think they lasted 1 month. I believe they activated for 4 hours daily. I would get 2 of them so that I got 8 hours back to back. I cant believe I set a alarm each day to get up to grind those hours . I dont know why they got rid of the cards tho. It seemed like a good system and it made players want to go online to make use of the card. Seems like it would have continued to be good profit for Nexon.

[@VadelGame]

#1 was fangblade, not tiger. Fangblade was the one who held everything. for a long time. Even more famous than tiger.

[@skylerkuhn5898]

People were wondering who tiger was but the REAL question was the hype around what Fangblade looked like without that helmet!

[@foxfoxfox6799]

@@skylerkuhn5898 Fangblade actually still plays the game to this day (or at least, on and off and afk). He takes off his helmet and has had screenshots taken a few times. Still don't know what his hair looks like though, lol.

[@skylerkuhn5898]

@@foxfoxfox6799 oh really? I remember seeing his face eventually but it was a mystery for a bit

[@Matanua]

@@foxfoxfox6799 black colour toben style

[@conniescurse7325]

Pretty sure the tiger thing happened before fangblade became #1 and super famous.

[@orbusg8451]

Where my pig beach bros at! Ah Tiger, the legend.

[@ovosan4195]

Maybe you could do a video on Grand Chase? It was super popular until a few years ago, when it was shutdown :/ Great video as always!

[@billhoyle5019]

This was the first thing I thought of when I saw maple story! I used to play that game so much!

[@Dislukee]

Grandchase season 2 were the golden days.

[@pokeio2]

Im glad kog doesnt go as crazy as nexon when it comes to private servers for gc

[@infamous193]

I want grandchase to come back. I’m tired of elsword and grandchase mobile is garbage

[@CionSAGA]

Ah man, GrandChase was like my life during high school. Kinda wish there was like a "GrandChase 2" for the PC instead of some mobile game.

[@Sephvion]

5:03 WTF ARE THOSE STATS?! Two of them have to be 4 (back in the day)! BLEEEEEEEEEGH!

[@ArticTiger]

Fangblade was overshadowed by the Tiger mystery later on, Maple's community was weird as heck.

[@blizzard2586]

Each time you said Zakum, I cringed a little.

[@ButCritically]

thank god someone pointed this out

[@innnks6941]

Ikr

[@SushiPat]

zakOOM

[@DallySkyeAnims]

Sounded like something when you orgasm.

[@myhandle365]

That's literally how I always pronounced it, lol. (without the dramatic-ness, though) And I played pre-Big Bang. I don't remember ever hearing differently, even in all the various fan-videos and gameplay videos that were out at the time. Then again, I don't remember ever really hearing it said out loud ... period.

[@littlebirdy3545]

I-- I'm sorry but... did you say Za-kooom??? I'm at a loss for words.... wat

[@Liggliluff]

Phonetically, that's very close to how you pronounce /zakum/

[@ciaociara]

I played around 2005 and there was a point where every map had people using cheats, creating tons of animations, so it wasn’t event fun.

[@Rick020]

7:27 pretty sure Suuushi & Tiger played Scania while Fangblade was in Bera.

[@NixDreamtIncorp]

I got my first and only sugar mama from MapleStory.. Ohh the memories..

[@Cowheart5]

Used to play it a lot back in the day when there were only 4 classes and getting to Lv. 70 was a ridiculous grind. I remember trying out one of the hacks, the one I got could suck monsters to one spot like a vacuum and let you go to town on them. Even with that it was still a grind lol. Eventually they made it easier to level up but that was after I stopped playing. Favorite part of the game was the party quests. I liked teaming up with players to fight a boss.

[@Nukestarmaster]

I remember it when they added pirates as a class. I found that kind of dumb to be honest.

[@chipskylark5500]

I member when a person who was level 70+ was like a GOD. That shit was impressive as fuck. I played religiously when out of school for 9 months, and was only ~61

[@feanaro2712]

I’d never even heard of Maplestory before you started talking about it on twitter, so this was an enlightening trip to the past for me. It’s fascinating how mysteries surrounding real life people can take on an almost mythological status given enough time and speculation on the internet.

[@eddyyt5078]

If you didn’t get to play og maplestory, you missed out.

[@hayo_hru]

Gavan: Tiger? *puts down beer* I haven't heard that name in a long time.

[@omgstoptakingnames]

lol if you were an OG maplestory player, you knew who Tiger and Suuushi were.

[@megamanx1291]

omgstoptakingnames And that other dude, he made those maple combat vids lol

[@Bialuhh]

Dray86 lmaoo

[@megamanx1291]

Michael Biala YES

[@PyraXadon]

Thanks Phantom for being my favorite class. Never got your sick-ass hat, but playing you was a blast. I played so much I ran out of character slots and had to go on a different server in order to have other avatars of the new classes.

[@cvcvdfetghgbbhg]

I remember watching heartbreaking Maplestory amv and Mmvs and just ...oof!

[@cyoniragu9680]

Im a korean and all the koreans in 2003 to 2010 plays that game.. and now with the big update of dark wizard has many events and one of the biggest is event is Burning. That when you level up 1 times it level up 3

[@brycevo]

MapleStory was pretty cool when I was a young kid. I played it again on the phone.

[@jackg5321]

No the same I feel on mobile , sped up you can use an auto button :(

[@fogg0]

@@jackg5321 Haha right? Back then you had to hack or use an auto clicker for auto.

[@Dislukee]

According to my memory, the rumor I heard was that Tiger got banned for hacking (possibly getting caught on purpose) and then his brother took over the account. The account was unbanned later and it continued being active, but it wasn't leveling nearly as fast as before. There was also the incident where suuushi got hacked by a guy who stalked him on Myspace or whatever for a couple of days and found out the answer to his security questions. Fangblade had a lot of random little legends around him. There were a few stories of people going to Target to buy an NX cash card (Target was the first place that started selling NX cards) and talking to a cashier about it. The cashier would then say something that implied he was Fangblade. Seems completely random, but this story was spreading a lot on forums back in the day.

[@reaperxy]

I still play occasionally today! It's fun, but different from the OG days

[@zainiikhwan9405]

Thank you Billiam. Maplestory is major part in my childhood. I remember the good old time when me and my lil brother chilling in cyber cafe until dusk after school. We met many friend there, with this one dude become our main guide as he the only one who brave enough to scour Hidden Street forum (us kid that time rarely use forum and its kinda overwhelming us lel). Time passes and we drifted from each other. My lil brother eagerly ask me to play Maplestory M just to relive the past, he's a big Maplestory enthusiast, but I just don't have it in me to restart playing this game......... One of this day I will play it with my brother, that's for sure. Thanks again Billiam

[@ashleylightheart126]

Maplestory's main story also just came to an end (which if you don't play for the story its essentially a final battle against the big bad, the Black mage, which was built up from like 2006, hence the name.)

[@ignaciodelapuente2985]

Well, they released a trailer where the New Big Meanie was teased. We had heard from him before, but his first true appearance in the game happens in a second-long cutscene after the Black Mage's defeat. His name is Gerand Darmoor, Trascendent of Life from the other world in the game.

[@ashleylightheart126]

@@ignaciodelapuente2985 NOOOOPE *FLIPS TABLE* I'm done. THIS GAME HAS MADE ME INVESTED FOR TOO LONG! I am not touching it anymore

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

Yeah, that was actually one of the weirdly charming bits about Maplestory back in the day - there wasn't really an endgame. There were the high level bosses sure, and you'd have guilds forming around farming those (or rather, farming out the service of killing them because the loot wasn't tradeable), but that was pretty much it. So what did people do? Basically, mostly use the game as a glorified chat room, hang out with friends... and of course the handful of players that just kept on grinding forever to stay on top of the leaderboard. There wasn't really any content much past level 100, and the max level was 200 with an exponential EXP curve so hitting max level at the time was only really possible in theory, in practice there weren't enough hours in the day to do it (hence you had leaderboards dominated by the same people for years without anyone getting even close to max level). The current game is very different, with level progression being somewhat less important (1-200 being basically an extended tutorial, and the 200-275 range while significantly grindier than before they raised the level cap isn't anywhere close to being impossible like the old level cap was), to a large extent swapped out with extensive other progression systems (mostly optimising gear, but also some other character upgrades). I'd say it can still be fun, but the game after revamping its systems several times only superficially resembles what it used to be. It is arguably much more of a game now, and I don't think the old version would do well in today's world anymore; again, basically a big chat room with a casual RPG attached to it - this made sense in the days where internet communication was still a novelty many of us were experience for the first time, not really much of a selling point anymore these days as ubiquitus global communication has become a mundane thing we do all the time. Nor would it work with the remaining community, which are basically all powergamers - set a goal, optimise your path to that goal, execute plan, find something new to do. Of course a game where there are few things to do and those things take a lot of time isn't going to appeal to that crowd.

[@ienzio7795]

Suuushi made it to level 200 back when that was the max, so it was obviously possible.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@ienzio7795 FangBlade did it first. I never said the 200 cap was impossible before it was raised, I said it was pretty much impossible when the game came out. When Fangblade, Suushi and gang got to 200 4th Job, Horntail etc were out. When the game released there wasn't even a 3rd job or Zakum. I think it's sort of obvious but just in case it's not: Obviously adding high level zones with mobs that gave multiple times the exp of the highest level mobs in the game at release, and higher jobs with better skills increased the possible leveling speeds. Even with those getting to 200 only became _possible_, people didn't regularly hit level cap until they significantly reduced the exp curve later on.

[@notneo5886]

I remember being too young to understand budgeting and would go broke buying ninja stars 😅

[@konoaricao]

the main things I remember about maplestory was that I loved the thief class just because it let you literally fade into the background and explore just about anywhere and as long as you didn't attack enemies wouldn't notice you and couldn't hurt you and the main reason I loved was just because the game did feel endless ;D now from a technical side the main thing maplestory had going for it back when I was playing at least was the sheer wealth of options for how you were going to play and after trying just about every class you really do need to have a plan in place of what you are going to do ahead of time or else you are so going to be playing catch up all the time ;D and another thing I loved is eventually you weren't just choosing your class you were also choosing if you wanted to go elemental as well, just do the regular version of your class, or go completely off the rails and play whole other game which was the character specific play throughs which made maplestory feel more like a traditional game ;D

[@no_xp]

I know I’ll get some shade for this but.... it’s Lith Harbor, Wizet, and dude.. zakoom? Otherwise, I love the video 👌🏻

[@DXUnlimitedGamer]

Ah the days of my youth. Playing maplestory after school, making friends online, loosing my account because I forgot the password, exploring the vast world, not being able to log on for months because my computer stopped being able to handle the game, rage quitting for years until Billiam brought it back to my attention. The good ol' days

[@applecat850]

Nexon does allow old school fan servers to remain online though. Servers like MapleLegends have been running for years and have decent amounts of players online too

[@KlericYT]

7:25 They couldn't have been in the same guild, FangBlade was a Bera boi. :0 Love the throwback, though. I was one of the many children to stalk Tiger and take a screenshot. I still have it on my computer at home.

[@Hotaru9]

I wasted too much of my life on Maplestory. And I can't even get into my old account anymore which sucks.

[@BlackSPYRO10]

I agree it is still going strong recently I even found quiet a few animators on KZbin who use the maplestory art and animation style for cartoons and mini series. To name a few Jackbowser, Zackattack, Aquila

[@Demonskunk]

You can just play one of the classic classes in the modern Maple story. The latest version has a way faster leveling speed, and it's actually a lot more friendly to newcomers than the original, from my experience.

[@MasterUltraBall]

I'm quite thankful when it comes to fan preservation. Depending on the game; it gives people an opportunity to go through a game they were never able to complete before it was shit down, or a game where social activity was the prime with side stuff you could do that you can keep on doing before the inevitable shutdown. FusionFall Universe, for example; bringing back FusionFall (as FusionFall Retro) gives me the chance to finish an online game I never finished. And then the team that revived that is also working on a whole renewal of the game; a remastered rendition made by the fans of the original game. I think it's kinda important to have these things, no matter what niche of a game it is. It's a game for fans, run by fans, to be enjoyed by the fans of old and introduces an experience for those that never played the game before, and possibly make them new fans of the series.

[@Loopus_77]

Dude, can you look into Adventure Quest?! I used to love that game! You might know it as Battleon... And also ofc - Runescape!

[@Kriojenic]

Colin Malcolm man adventure quest was the shit

[@chelseawhitmore1080]

Colin Malcolm yeah i kind of want to play adventure quest again

[@devinebaxter]

Yes adventure quest, also similar dragon fable and mech quest 😂

[@lemons2300]

I played that shit in the public library after school with friends. I also found Dragon Fable quite fun to play, some moments even better than AQ. Mech Quest was meh for the most part. Then I started playing AQWorlds.

[@bluegiant13]

Your channel is a perpetual carousel of nostalgia, I am glad I found it, really needed some new content.

[@OmegaShinku]

Man i'm a vet from the glory days and still log from time to time. And all i can tell you is that whoever claims to know the truth about tiger is lying. Nothing was ever actually confirmed so it remains a mystery New maple is much easier to get into but it has lost that camaraderie aspect it had. I made friends through old maple that i still have today. And hell right now am in denmark visiting one!

[@loherring277]

Jordi Massot I’m a Californian Mapler that met her IRL Louisianian husband in Mardia back in 2010.❤️

[@lemons2300]

For me I find new Maple very very hard to get into so I have to disagree! Old Maple was very engaging because of friends begging you to play the game, and the sheer challenge and the sense of exploration that comes with it. Now MS feels like a washed out amusement park rather than a world to explore.

[@enternaraku]

I swear you're in my head!! You seem to always make a video about something right after it pops in my head. Me and my friends started playing on some old school private servers a couple weeks ago for nostalgia sake.

[@OLivay]

you can actually still play it on it's very old version (62) on servers like mapleroyals

[@khristiannatividad9378]

you should do a deep dive on a game called graal its kinda similar to this but its had alot of drama with it i dedicated my life to that game for some years

[@junebunny2938]

Animal Jam or Moviestarplanet next??

[@SidMajors]

Best gaming days ever. Btw I actually leveled my friends characters as a surprise. We all knew eachothers logins.

[@chrissmythe3472]

No love for the CCG produced by WOTC? It was actually surprisingly decent with some very nice art.

[@briancaro196]

I loved it, I've been loking for years where to play the online version again.

[@miguel3231]

the Maple Kombat videos were fun to follow, and they also included the top players into their story

[@nerdmagnett]

PIRATE WASN'T IN VANILLA Sorry. I've been playing since release. It's my child.

[@knox7945]

Holy shit Maplestory. I used to play that back in middle school back when Maplestory was in its beta. And when the full game came out, whoever played the beta had the maple bandana, and literally everyone had one, it was also the time when Maplestory took forever to level up. But once you did, it was an amazing feeling. PQing took forever as well, killing King Slime was what you did if you wanted to level faster. Then everyone's beginner's trap with the taxi that takes you to the dungeon, lmao.

[@TheOmegaDMM]

"Have you heard about TheLegend27?"

[@RedDenim]

You've become one of my favorite KZbinrs nowadays. I could be having a bad day, a really bad day, and one quick hit of nostalgia and your charisma helps make me feel better :) Keep it up

[@richiec2264]

I actually met tiger on MS way back in 2007-8

[@pass6749]

Can you tell me what happened? Was he actually toxic? I'm really interested with this mystery

[@TheMadRatKing]

When I was hitting my years of puberty, I saw an ad for IMVU and immediately went into it. I *still* don’t remember exactly what was going through my head at the time. But I have *very* vivid memories of that game that I’ve repressed. Maplestory existed in the corner of my mind throughout it and I had no memory of every remembering it before Maplestory 2 hit the market, but yeah. It was there. I didn’t care about it. Maplestory 2, however, I had deep connections to, and I’ll never stop being upset that it closed. It was so much more fun than the original, in my opinion.