Marine reacts to the History of the Swedish M90 Camouflage

This camouflage pattern looks interesting, so I imagine it has had an interesting development period as well haha.
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#sweden #camouflage #m90

[@kristianborghem2893]

m90 was called the pile of leaves when the soldiers used it. when senior officers used it it was called the compost.

[@laurisiren8140]

The M90 pattern is actually in use in Finland as well - on vehicles and even some navy ships. It does really work from a distance and breaks the shapes of vehicles quite well. We're in the same region so our lascapes are pretty similar, and I guess the FDF just went "oh well, let's just use what's already out there and works". That's not to be said about the m05/m04 used on current uniforms and gear though. There was a huge research project behind those patterns, and they really are super effective. AFAIK Finland is planning to use the same patterns on the new uniforms that are being developed together with the other Nordic countries.

[@danjonsson9206]

The hawe digital camo m05 now when I was in Ekenäs Nylands brigard 2016 :)

[@Vollification]

13:25 Yes, AK4s (used by the Homeguard) have them in peacetime. Two reasons, safety and if you send the bullet casings back to the factory ammo is cheaper :)

[@tolwyn9999]

Saves training times as well as you don't have to police the firing station from brass afterwards.

[@SWEmanque]

Wanting a camo that looks "distinctly Swedish" is quite smart, that way they can easily spot any non-Swedish soldiers trying to get close to bases etc. Most nations are more likely to field things that look like they are modern, there is a reason why most arms manufacturers have designers. You have to convince not only the procurement agency but the generals, the troops, the politicians, and the public. Just look at Switzerland, they wanted to buy planes and decided on the JAS 39 Gripen, but the public and the politicians didn't agree with the military on their needs and the deal was canceled only for the F35 to be chosen despite not winning the last time.

[@Kosmologiikka]

3:51 In 1915, the French Army became the first to create a dedicated camouflage unit. The word 'camouflage' came from the French verb meaning 'to make up for the stage'. Camouflage was invented by two French painters mobilised in the 6th Artillery Regiment: Lucien Victor Guirand de Scévola (1871-1950) and Louis Guingot (1864-1948).

[@awmperry]

That clip at 13:34 is from a video I shot when the army conducted an exercise to check the viability of moving troops using public transport; they embarked a platoon in the northern areas of central Stockholm, travelled to Slussen on the southern island, followed by a field march to set up a position at Fåfängan, a hilltop cafe built on the foundations of an old fort.

[@CombatArmsChannel]

haha very cool

[@scruffy7760]

Sweden in WW2 is just a big story of us playing every side to stay safe. We allowed the Germans to use our railroads. We provided Intel to the Allies. We allowed allied pilots a safe haven after bombruns. We sent volunteers to Finland to fight the Russians. We allowed resistancefighters from Denmark and Norway to rest, train and resupply in Sweden. We even had plans to invade and liberate Denmark and Norway. We almost joined Germany in the war when the UK threatened to sink a squadron of swedish frigates docked by the Faroe Islands (the swedish commander decided to surrender which prevented shots being fired which kept us out of the war but his career was over since he abandoned his ships without a fight, which resulted in a direct order that no swedish vessel may ever surrender without a fight). And loads more stuff obviously. Famously we decoded Germanys most advanced cryptography machine, the G Machine, way more advanced than the simple (by comparison) Enigma Machine.

[@scepticalwalker3984]

If the ships were surrendered it was only temporarily because they did enter service again shortly thereafter. Sweden bought four used destroyers from Italy in 1940, right before Italy joined the Germans in the war. While Sweden fetched the ships in Italy, Denmark and Norway were occupied by Germany. A few weeks later France was invaded. Churchill was worried that the the destroyers would eventually end up in German hands. He sent a destroyer squadron to intercept the Swedes and there was a standoff in the Faroe Islands. No shots were fired and the ships were eventually allowed to continue their journey to Sweden.

[@SteveDahlskog]

The ships were destroyers, not frigates (see sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilanderaffären) and having Sweden join Germany over the destroyers seems a bit overrated. Given that Germany invaded Denmark and Norway and in 1943 von Schell had made plans to invade Sweden, indicates that Sweden joining with Germany was out of the question, by 1943 at least.

[@scruffy7760]

The what if scenario considers if our ships had engaged the British, and ships had been sunk on either side. Do we know for sure? Obviously not

[@harald7309]

Thank you! I could not have explained it any better!

[@emilrosen8536]

your swedish or?

[@grahamwalker2312]

Hi, did hear that Sweden also assisted the Allies / UK during WW2 by providing much needed 'ball bearings' via a pick-up point at Gothenburg whose port had easy access to the North Sea. Again I understand that ball bearing consignments were collected by the UK, using fast boats operating from the UK. Graham W

[@AlexKall]

And, intelligence reports on German movements. Sweden cracked a high level encryption device early in the war, on a far higher strategic level than what the the Enigma was used at.

[@charlesvallgarda477]

The Swede know when the Germany would invade the Sovjet ,they try to warn them but....

[@matso3856]

They also smuggeled ball bearing's to UK on the airline that remained opened to Bromma(Stockholm). But also tools so britts could set up thier own ball bearings factory.

[@markusjongren4098]

We supported both sides, initially mostly the Germans (since it was preferable to being invaded) but as the war progressed swung to the allies (since it was preferable to being bombed and potentially invaded)

[@Thennix]

M90 was real comfy to wear when I did my conscript 2003-2004

[@VarvasNukka]

Uniform history has a lot of solid videos. And if you want to look a Danish troops, there's a good series on becoming a frogmen here on youtube.

[@gonace]

One of my favorites plane designs is the Saab 37 Viggen with the FOA Camouflage the forerunner of the M90 uniform pattern, now that is a beauty to behold! But I have to say that one of my favorite camouflage are the Dazzle camouflage used on ships during World War I, I'm not sure how effective it really was but it looks really cool (in my mind)

[@kramasnu3826]

Quick update: The M/90 pattern will remain on the new NCU uniforms mentioned late in the video, albeit scaled down to 60% of its original size and also adding the Swedish national emblem , the three crowns, here and there. This time they have copyrighted it. Delivery of the new uniforms to Sweden will commence in late 2023 and the contract was won by the Norwegian designer Oskar Pedersen AS. Greek company Siamidis manufactures the uniforms, multinational W.L Gore & Associates GmbH makes the fabric, Norwegian Aclima and Swedish Woolpower will make the new underwear. Gore-Tex is used in some garments.

[@thorbjornkarlsson4681]

I remember one time when i was in the swedish home guard. My group had an exercise. We was in an urban area in a smal park. There was smal bushes. I was sitting next to one bush, not in it. There was a footway one meter away from me, and peaple was walking by, not seeing me or the rest of the groupe. We had on us M90.

[@Kottenification]

Just a short notice.: the 1970's "baracuda" pattern (the circular ones) were mainly tested out in swedish leaf-tree forests - like the birch forests of southern sweden. There - the camouflage was deemed very effective. However - in the northern parts of sweden, where the forests are more made up with spruce and pine - one found the old pattern 59 (the entirely green uniform) more "up to the task". When the model 90 splinter camouflage was adopted in the (late) 80's we got a pattern designed for swedish terrain, but also for ALL swedish terrain. The thought was that in southern part of sweden - the pattern was slightly brighter (and with "splinters" of brown, for example) whereas in the nothern parts of sweden a slightly darker variant (with darker greens and black) were used in the beginning. Sorry for my bad English, though. I'm swedish (and from one of the first generation of conscripts issued the then "brand new" model 90). :-)

[@davemac1197]

This was really interesting. The Swedes have always done some very interesting defence work despite their policy of neutrality. The jet fighter you saw with the double-delta shaped wings was the Saab Draken, a very cool jet I remember as a kid building model planes in the 70s! My dad worked in aerospace for a company making flight deck instruments and avionics, and I remember he had contacts with Saab. He said they were always very advanced and kept well ahead of the Soviets with their technology. WW2 camo on uniforms? Apart from the US Marines in the Pacific, we Brits had the Denison smock for UK Airborne forces and SAS in Europe - it had a three-colour disruptive pattern of light and dark green over brown. The standard battledress uniform in Khaki brown was worn underneath. The Germans used a number of different patterns, particlarly dot pattern, on Waffen-SS, but I've seen some evidence that some army units had access to some of these as well. The Germans had major problems with supplies of dye throughout the war, so even the standard uniforms changed colour from grey, to grey-green, to a sort of brown colour, as the various dyes ran out. Great video and reaction. Thanks Theo.

[@CombatArmsChannel]

Thanks for the info!

[@vberl9573]

The delta and canard fighter was the Viggen not the Draken. The draken was the delta winged plane which was white in color in the beginning of the video.

[@davemac1197]

@@vberl9573 - the Draken is a double delta wing, the Viggen as you correctly say is a delta and canard design, so I was quite clear to use the term "double-delta" for the Draken. As a double check, I Googled "Saab Draken wing shape" and this was the first hit: "double delta wing The Saab 35 Draken is a fighter aircraft, equipped with a distinctive double delta wing. According to Flight International, it is difficult to differentiate between the fuselage and the wing. The design anticipates what would later be known as a 'blended wing-body'." 'Flight International' (published in the UK) was one of the periodicals that my father used to bring home to read from work. The others were 'Aviation Week & Space Technology' (USA) and 'Interavia' (Swiss).

[@ollep9142]

The German mountain troops used the original "splinter" pattern.

[@panzer2181]

Great video! Unique topic, and I like you cover smaller nations as well.

[@jakobholgersson4400]

From what I heard, the name "lövhögen"/leaf pile doesn't come from the looks but the sound. A squad of soldiers marching in early production m/90's would rattle like a pile of dry leaves in the autumn. And it's not that the uniform wasn't distributed as soon as it was finalized. Sweden quite simply had a huge army at the time (10+% of the total population, virtually all men of reasonable health) and they couldn't make enough uniforms for everyone. So from what I've read, the m/90 was first distributed to rangers and then more and more soldiers got access to them. And even then, prior to 2000-ish, recruits would start their training using m/59's and only when they'd finish basic training were they "worthy" of the m/90.

[@jonasabelson]

about wwII aid, not widely known is that we "played" the germans. During the tie we gave aid, we listened in to german coms and cracked codes.

[@ElenaAndersson]

Hi everybody. don’t judge me since Sweden is not my country but.. what I know is that the m90 camo is usually used in Scandinavia due to that they’re type of forest is pretty dark and 🌲 pine, but as we have worked with Swedish special forces in the past I’ve seen them using multicam which is what us army and special forces usually use every different branch has its camo, airforce and army multicam, marines and navy usually marpat digital camo

[@ketilstraumann5618]

Hello. Love to see the norwegian military border patroll cord + the sami knife (Same Kniv) in the background. Thanks for all the great videos, with great reflections

[@TheSlugslinger]

according to Swedish military history the reason for The Policy of 1812 implemented by the then heir-presumptive to the King , since after being in constant war for almost 200 years outside of the country where the majority of adult males had been to war and the country needed to find a way to heal its wounds and rebuild the defence and armed forces after the major loss of Finland to Russia, the most effective way of doing this was to "officially" take the stance of total neutrality(even if we helped the British during Napoleonic Wars the year after against napoleon since the heir-presumptive did not like how napoleon did things after having served under him for 20years in the French army as a officer)

[@davemac1197]

Fun facts: 1. We still have income tax in the UK, despite it being introduced as an 'emergency measure' to raise money for the war against Napoleon 200 years ago. 2. We still get asked why we drive on the left, despite never being occupied by Napoleon and forced over to the over side of the road by his troops. 3. We named the London railway station nearest the continent after Waterloo - the French hate that. They hate it even more after the Channel Tunnel was built and the London terminus for the high speed rail line from Paris was inevitably... Waterloo station.

[@sirseigan]

Yes the national trauma of loosing half our territory to Russia have forever since shaped our foregin policy as well as our view on Russia.

[@nja7402]

Maybe this has been mentioned already, but the Italian M1929 "Telo mimiteco" was the first official military camo. Finnish m62 looks quite same.

[@frogmaster83]

The is a lot of great Camo history stories on that channel, its one of my favourites.

[@joachimsimon286]

Yes its a brass collector used on the swedish version of the G3 but in Sweden known as the AK4! and the later version or replacement is the AK5 and its a Swedish version of the FN FNC from Belgium.

[@brickcreator4677]

Sweden helped Finland during the winter war an they also sent resistance fighters to Norway which is kinda funny because they helped both the axis and the allies

[@kimie7479]

Awesome vid!

[@magik8566]

BTW: "Canada’s “CADPAT” (Canadian Disruptive Pattern) is ultimately the grandfather of all the sundry pixelated digital camouflage patterns seen today"

[@ElenaAndersson]

Never seen cadpat as I’ve never worked with canadians, how would you compare it to the marines digital marpat

[@frakismaximus3052]

​@@ElenaAnderssonmarpat came from us marines corps interest in the cadpat project. So it compares extremely well 😅

[@Gripenace]

Thank you, I was wearing the M90 in my prescripts in Umeå (Northern Sweden), and while being in the forest, you were almost invisible..... Stockholm subway?? Not so much :)

[@DanHammarstrom]

3:32 Foreskin..

[@johnfalk4200]

Hello brother, another interesting video about camouflage patterns. I love this topic and I am a big fan of your channel. Your content is just great and I thank you for your commitment. When i was serving as a machine gunner in the swiss infantry, we had an interesting camouflage pattern. We jokingly called it "pizza tarn". Maybe you would like to watch the following video sbout it: An Overview of Switzerland‘s M70 & M83 Uniforms and Their Red Camouflage Pattern

[@Sebbe1]

"And forgive any mispronounciations here ""For foring FORESKIN zanstalt" :D

[@j.2977]

"Foreskin" im dying lol

[@olahammarstrom8800]

The M90 pattern was finally copyrighted by the Swedish armed forces in 2020 which suggests it will stick around.

[@zoom5024]

Yeah from what i've heard it will be still be the m90 pattern but that they will scale it down alot more so it kinda looks like the finnish M05 camo but with the splinter instead of whatever their shapes are called.

[@Merecir]

Hmm, since there are so many copies already I do not think a case claiming copyright ownership would be sucessful.

[@zoom5024]

@@Merecir they'll add the three crowns on the pattern, and thats our national symbol. So i dont think there will be a problem.

[@petter5721]

The new Swedish M90 pattern will be introduced 2022 with the new uniform system.

[@tntfreddan3138]

What do you call a prone Swedish soldie? A leaf pile. What do you call a prone Swedish veteran? A compost pile.

[@someoneelse7629]

I actually participated in the study of the M90 pattern, we were riding a truckbed along a road, fireing att all "enemys" we could see on the route, we missed abbout 80% of the M90's and 10 of the solid green ones. The Nature in Sweden is much different to the US (yes even the northern parts) with a lot deeper, darker greens, even the camouflage with the round shapes work well since we have lots of trees with round(ish) leafs. With that said, there is always room for improvements, and the new pattern looks promising.

[@Pinzpilot101]

The guys on the small tricycle are Belgian paratroopers? It is designated Vehicle airborne FN AS24. made by the FN company who also made the FN FAL rifle.

[@bordersw1239]

I think the first widely used camouflage was us Brits in India around 1850, developed a colour to blend in in the desert, the local name was Khaki. I think the first to use what we would recognise as modern camouflage were German WW2 paratroopers but I could be wrong!

[@dogone7262]

The painted cammo had different Infra Red characteristics in the different colors too.

[@Mimer6]

Sweden gave a lot of help to Finland, which fought against Russia, which was on the allied side. And to the Norwegian resistance movement and a little to the Danish resistance movement (to Denmark it was not so easy for the Öresund canal was in between) And they fought against Germany who were on the side of the Axis powers. Sweden also gave Bofors anti-aircraft guns and ball bearings to England (Bofors anti-aircraft guns fired down more aircraft during the Second World War than any other weapon).

[@tr6431]

During WWII many countries used camo patterns, just look at the navy or the airforce. Black / dark painted night fighters / bombers, pink Spitfires, Battleships with weird looking paintjobs etc...

[@senseo2848]

Still one of the best Camos for northern european regions and wooded areas.

[@Mornomgir]

The splinter camo as far as i know was originally designed by the germans in the 1920s. You can see it on old interwar era ships and on ships from ww2 as well.

[@timbackman5915]

My dad told me an interesting story about the m90. He was a ranger and the m90 kit was given as a reward for good soldiers back when it was being introduced.

[@NiklasSandbergK]

If he was a ranger then he had to earn the right to the uniform before he got it.

[@timbackman5915]

@@NiklasSandbergK which is what I meant dude.

[@NiklasSandbergK]

@@timbackman5915 The rest of us did no have to earn it before we got it.

[@enrandomnoob5525]

In sweden we call this type of guy a ”MÖP”

[@get_it8473]

in ww2 sweden gave aid to both sides german soliders where allowed to cross and we took in norwegians escaping over the boarder for example. and trade was keeps with both uk and germany altough trade with the uk droped by 70% becuse of attacks

[@duvonan]

Love the m90 😋

[@andreasfjellborg1810]

That Taiga winter kit is 2000$+(pants, jacket, hat and gloves), probably why only some groups recieve it. Freaking awesome clothes tho.

[@jfilm7466]

I love M90. As an autistic, I feel so comfortable in this camo. DPM and squiggly patterns make me feel so uncomfortable. The northern M90 is darker and much better for me. I wear it in summer, spring and autumn I use M90 jacket and MTP/Multicam trousers to blend in with the browny bush and pine trees. In winter all white snow, snow pants with either M90/MTP jackets. I've tried loads of camos, this and Danish M/84 very surprising for an autistic with blotchy pattern.

[@gislemark79]

That IS a Brass collector.

[@kevinmoulding7702]

British soldiers airborne division used Denison combat socks in ww2

[@vibraloop]

02:18 yes they did.

[@mogges]

5:23 from my old regiment where I was conscripted 1989

[@hansericsson7058]

I had the all green wen i did my service in the mid 80s.

[@PontusSs82]

M90 pattern will be on the next swedish uniform ass well.

[@georgemorley1029]

The swedes were forced into declaring war against the British by France in 1810 and obviously found the whole incident so upsetting that they decided they wouldn’t fight wars anymore after that. We didn’t actually fight them to be fair, and kept trading with them. Can’t really blame them I suppose. Declaring war on Britain can have that effect on some countries.

[@rex4229]

Sweden actually fought with Britain against France in the War of the Sixth Coalition(Last war with Napoleon). 20000 Swedes fought at Leipzig in 1813.

[@n0npareiL]

That's a pretty big stretch..

[@georgemorley1029]

@@rex4229 Yeah, that would be because the “war” was over in 1812. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Swedish_War_(1810-1812)

[@rex4229]

@@georgemorley1029 Yes, but you said that sweden didn't want to fight wars after that which is wrong. Sweden fought several wars after 1812.

[@papaeiche8322]

Check out WAFFEN SS and FALSCHIRMJAGER Camouflage from WW2 . You will find they have had a big influence on most Post-war western army's camouflage patterns.

[@frakismaximus3052]

Heil! Heil! Heil! 😊

[@Rafnatyr70]

M90 Brandit US M65 jacket!

[@WoodStiXx]

The soldiers in the weird vehicle thing at 4:58 are Belgian Soldiers I believe.

[@larsjson1476]

I live 75 yards from Saab Barracuda factory, and know most of their employes here ☺️

[@jonnyxs892]

What’s with the guy throwing stones at the start😂

[@johanbtheman]

MACV SOG used camo (tiger?) during whole war in vietnam. Back in 64 to 71 i think.

[@AW-hg3pc]

my opinion is that the m90 varied alot across its variants (iam a collector and camouflage enthisiast). Effectiveness varied alot with it, the pattern worked very well with the darker northern colours, however they went overboard with the bosnian war variant (grassland) desert variant and the southern forest pattern. The pattern just works best with darker colours, same goes for the finnish m62 variants. Another aspect to swedens design was political, they wanted something "non agressive" similar reason the netherlands didnt use flecktarn partially because its based on SS camo patterns.

[@ChristopherBergsten]

"Not many circles in nature" - What? lol.

[@JohanHaagg]

Yeah, that was a brass collector. It is called a ”elefant pung”, which meens elephant ball sack 😂

[@volundrfrey896]

In ww2 we gave support to both sides to some extent. The ruling party (social democrats) being the sister party of the nazi party highly favored them while the population distinctly aligning themselves with the allies (the exception being Soviet in the winter war). So the government for example assisted in troop transports for Germany, while also selling a lot of weapons to both sides.

[@JH-lo9ut]

I think the waffen SS (they were sort of the army of the Nazi party, not the same as the the Wehrmach, the army of the german state), were among the first adopters of "scientifically" developed camouflage. Not that I want to praise them or anything, but since you asked the question... A forerunner to modern camo patterns is the so called "dazzle camouflage" that was used on warships by all sides in world war one. These were strange, broken geometrical patterns in black and white, that was supposed to make the ships harder to target. Back then, before radar and computers, targeting was made by optically measuring the distance to the target ship, then adjusting manually for the heading and speed of the target. When shooting at a moving target miles away, you need to have the calculation dead on if you hope to make a hit. The dazzle camouflage made it really difficult to estimate the size of the enemy ship, and in what direction the ship was pointing, thereby taking one or two of the important parameters out of the equation. Contrary to what everyone expected, it turned out that the striking, zebra-patterned ships also became much harder to see than a ship that's painted in plain gray.

[@Im_N3gan]

all the camos except the CPU camo i like

[@dennisgustafsson9826]

yes thats a brasscollector

[@mlhus]

I believe the reason for not taking sides in WW2 at the beginning was due to a great disarmament of the armed forces after the First World War as we(the Swedes) hoped end believed there would never be any war again like the WW1. So therefore we wouldn't stand a chance to Germany if denying them to transit their troops to Northern Norway

[@tobiasandreasson1735]

I would to se your reaction to the ”jägarsoldat” series that the Swedish armed forces made i most if not all of them have english subs if use youtube’s auto translation

[@sweper]

Agree. Gen Dit Commando did the whole series (16 episodes) and said it was one of the best he has watched. It starts here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIWpqZppi7yrjJY

[@petter5721]

Please do it 😀👍🏻

[@BolinFoto]

Worst camouflage ever invented :P I'm so old so I was in the Service when the M58 and M90 uniforms were both in service. And so I can say from personal experience that those wearing the M90 splinter was spotted long before those wearing the old M58 solid drab olive green. I was in the marines and driving past island in our boats we could always spot soldiers that had been issued the new M90 trying to hide on the islands in the archipelago. We always pointed and waved at them and then on the radio we always got back "stop revealing our location" and we always responded that they revealed themselves by having a shitty camouflage pattern. And sometimes we got in the radio a call from someone wearing the old M58 uniform butting and saying "You missed us though". No matter what any historian say the Swedish M90 was put in service just because it looked cool. The solid drab olive green is still the superior camouflage pattern to wear in green woodland areas. The solid color makes it's own camouflage pattern when the shadows from the sun hits it. It's not a mistake that jungle fighters and other such units still wear the solid drab olive green. But Sweden wanted to stand out so they made a camouflage pattern that stands out and that is not a preferable characteristic on a uniform. And now I'm bracing for the tacti-cools that are going to tell me wrong I'm because they also like to look cool :P

[@frakismaximus3052]

You are most likely a communist agitator

[@gundany]

Italy 🇮🇹 was the first country to design camouflage uniforms.

[@frakismaximus3052]

🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹

[@Pinzpilot101]

I have the Combat jacket in M90.

[@stormmoster]

The Policy of 1812 had a lot to do with the new crown prince and future king, Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, we imported from France since the king was old and without children(legitimate once). He was one of Napoleon's marshals and thought the most important thing for a country was to have peace. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XIV_John

[@rickybuhl3176]

We're kinda lucky in Denmark in one sense, not so much in others.. We're under 6m people - so the forces are small and gear forms a larger part of the equation. We're proud of our Frømandskorps - a la Nøkk from Rainbox Six for the gamers, they're our sweaty chad-types.. Thinking about it, with the lack of conflicts that they were involved in, it really was more fashion than function for the Swedes for the most part. Swedish camo was once the best reason for trying their line in WoTanks..

[@Petterwass]

Why do you think they wanted to use up remaining uniform stocks? Because unlike the US millitary, most others do not have unlimited budgets. As a comparison the US military budget alone is almost twice as large as Swedens combined and total GDP...

[@ArgaAnders]

In WWII Sweden gave aid to Finland, mainly because Finland and Sweden was the same country for centuries so we share a cultural thingie, but also because we didn´t want Stalin on our doorstep!! We alredy had Hitler on our south and eastern borders! Enough is enough! Sweden gave arms to Finland (Guns, munitions both for small arms and artillery, a whole third of of our airforce (Pilots included), logistics such as first aid kits, underwear, gloves and so on), opened up the newly developed social welfare system to take care of our eastern brethrens childs displaced by russian (Soviet) aggression, and gave swedish conscripts, that were by law mandated to serve in the swedish military "Leave to visit Finland" (Around 9000 did during the war) Many finns might not want to regognzie this because it´s too much to make fun of Sweden, but the facts are still there! Swedes do love Finland!

[@RusskiBlusski]

The mindset that made Sweden decide to stay out of war comes from Swedish history with Denmark. Sweden and Denmark are the two countries in the world with the most wars between them. 11 total, for reference the total amount of wars that the US has fought in is 12. Around the 1800s we got tired of fighting the Danes.

[@Zay-if9jc]

1:30 swiss??!!

[@Mimer6]

The first troops to wear camouflage uniforms were the German SS. They were not handicapped by tradition as normal armies but could develop the most effective uniforms in a more scientific way.

[@Alex-vx5ql]

Regarding the reason for neutrality is like deadline93 wrote. Sweden have been in and out of major conflicts and war since the beginning of the Viking era up until it was decided that enough is enough and we took a step to the side and became "neutral". To add to that, basically...being involved in major conflict cost a lot of money, money that will be better spent on the people and infrastructure rather than for upkeep of armed forces in conflicts that does not involve us. Sweden is a small country with relatively low population so it is not possible for us to sustain any larger conflict for a longer period of time. So, it is more resource efficient to stay neutral and instead acting as mediator and to provide aid to those in need (it is far more complicated than that, but it is the basics). Sweden being neutral is often very misunderstood and people just think "neutral" as in doing nothing. To really understand how the "neutrality" part works you need to look more in detail for specific conflicts because it is decided on case by case what the actions will be. For example the Finnish winter war, Sweden could not officially send troops because this is by default picking a side and you are then no longer neutral...BUT...the Swedish government allowed soldiers to volunteer to go and support Finland, thus staying neutral and still give support since we knew that if Finland falls to Russia then Sweden is next in line for potential invasion. Sweden do however need to have its own armed forces to have the possibility to defend itself to be able to keep its neutrality status. This extends to the point that the orders are that if Sweden is attacked, the Swedish government will never give orders to surrender and that we are to fight until last man/woman standing.

[@HansenSWE]

I'm not entirely sure why you thought the military was concerned about swag, lol

[@ronchabale]

13:20 Yes it´s a brass collector, much hated coz it causes misfeeds, only for peacetime use tho

[@DinoCify]

Lövhagen= the leaf garden

[@TheJonasbz]

Sweden had two choises in WW2, starve and freese or maybee get invaded or cooperate with the germans. Sweden needed food and coal, to heat the houses that was not made in sweden and germany got it, the choise where easy, but sweden gave lot of intellegence to the allies and in -45 even hlet the allies have air bases for the opaeration save Denmark, that operation did however never hapend

[@MrBergakungen]

swiss and Swedish/ stuff

[@oskarsamuelsson3846]

A big income in sweden is mining and making weapons so its bad if we are in war with a country bec thats making less money

[@peterandersson1230]

The FOI cum up to the conclusions that everything smaller than one square meter should just be green. How to paint bigger things was really regulated, all tanks should have the same camo, cars depanding on brand had same camo, really scientifically based camo.

[@ollep9142]

The notion of "inspired by the US" should refer mostly to the cut of the garments, not the print. That YT channel is more about uniform systems than it's about camouflage patterns.

[@jfilm7466]

I thought the new Danish uniforms looked like our English gear. Just hope we don't go to war with Denmark as no-one would know who is who.

[@martinhermanns2515]

Danes use original multicam and TYR plate carriers, the only thing in common is the revision cobra helmet, but not to worry a new version like a midcut helmet is being issued right now 😊

[@afriendlycadian9857]

not suprised dennmark looks similar we have close relations with them and norway

[@deadline93]

To make a really long subject on swedish international policy short 2 major events helped guide the creation of neutrality. Firstly the defeat in the Great Northern War which saw sweden demoted to a secondary power in European politics. Second was the Finish war of 1808 during wich sweden lost its eastern half or Finnland to Russia. This event happend as a part of the Napoleonic Wars and led to radical political change in sweden towards a constiutional monarchy. Now European politics before 1800 dident allow for neutrality really all nations was allways under threat of invassion and alliances where absolutley nececary. However afterwards things stablized in the conzert of europe. During this time Sweden and Switzerland set the trend of smaller European states to declear neutrality to avoid getting entagled in greater conflicts and this worked mostly up untill World War II. Sweden dident simply adoped it cause our new King demanded it, it was also supported by varius political groups within the nation and by the military that recogniced that sweden was no longer able to field comperable forces to the likes of Prussia Russia UK and France. Recognicing that any war sweden found itself in would end in a disastrous conflict simply repeating the Finish war of 1808.

[@RuvySfm]

While we let the german forces travel through our country. We secretly relayed their information to the allies.

[@musicversuseverything2161]

Sir, for a different flavor.. please react to story telling rap LACKLAND by EZ MIL.. story about joining the air force..

[@petterrix3144]

I 'were' the 'south' M90....🇸🇪

[@Niinsa62]

That part about Sweden wanting a specifically Swedish pattern isn't that dumb, really. Look at the war in Ukraine. The Russian uniforms and the Ukrainian uniforms are so similar, that the soldiers add tape to their uniforms to avoid friendly fire. White tape for Russians, and yellow or blue tape for Ukrainians. I guess Sweden wanted a good camouflage pattern, but one that avoided friendly fire.

[@jfilm7466]

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[@aecarina]

we helped the USA and NATO. Germany was a way to avoid invasion, we more or less had a weapon against our heads. Extremely unpleasant part of our history that has not always been cute

[@industrialbeatnik]

I'm not good at KZbin, so I apologize for what may very well be misplaced comments/links I just think the Canadian government has neglected our military to such an enormous extent that we now rely on Americans to ensure this we are not assailedI just think the Canadian government has neglected our military to such an enormous extent that we now rely on Americans to ensure this we are not assailedI just think the Canadian government has neglected our military to such an enormous extent that we now rely on Americans to ensure this we are not assailed via some sort of over the pole or North West passage sort of roots. It is truly only the American is that completes that waterway with nuclear submarines. Canada is disgustingly secretive so there's no reason to believe we don't have all kinds of drones and unmanned underwater vehicles up there but the reality is I don't believe we have any ability to defend our sovereignty.