Mom Thinks I'm Wrong For Wanting To Kick Out My Brothers Pregnant Mistress r/Relationships

[@gaxalee7392]

Op’s mom-“what if they get taken away by CPS?” Me-“why would you want small, vulnerable children in the hands of people so irresponsible that CPS would actually get off their butts and do something about it?”

[@anonmouse15]

"So much the better."

[@Tokuijin]

I was thinking the same thing

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@MomokoTuHarumaki If Mom is so worried about her grandbaby, then she should take her and her precious boy in. She's practically been spoiling and enabling him all his life, why stop now? Unless of course, Dad is dead set against it and wants deadbeat brother to grow up.

[@catherineholt1149]

@@PrincessQ-fj9ly it sounds like that Dad has had enough given how op said their dad thinks the brother should man up and look after his children and that OP should finishing things.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@catherineholt1149 I'm not surprised. And OP's dad is right. It's way past time for Mom to cut the umbilical cord and not just literally. If she can't or won't do that, Dad might just need to get his own place and let Mom clean up after her golden boy.

[@kanelovec4315]

"Mommy can work extra hours for their uncle's affair kid" Fuck no. Who going to baby sit op kids, who going to be their for op's kid. The mistress can be a stay at home mother on op's brother or mother's dime.

[@pippo17173]

The edits already confirm on the golden child syndrome.

[@sleepyearth]

OP's brother is utterly useless..... A 51 years old man can't even feed his family and now wants to leech off his sister.

[@mracula1667]

Story 1: NTA. Why should OP be on the hook for her brother’s weak pull out game? He’s old enough to know how not to make a baby, it’s on his shoulders to carry the consequences.

[@elizabethescalante7866]

Damn right! And I don't see why his wife didn't divorce the bastard the first time? She honestly thought this was salvageable?!

[@dream6562]

@@elizabethescalante7866 honestly though the wife had more control if she really didn't want to get pregnant

[@Gumbier_Than]

For real. Her mom's demeanor is resulting in some nonsense to me. It's okay for your spare to work herself to death but you're too old to help to help Goldie? GTFOH.

[@LB-gz3ke]

There are two adult humans here who should be handling this. OP is not one of them. Put them out.

[@akl2k7]

Heck, that's only half of it. The mistress/homewrecker wasn't even on birth control!

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Story 2: This whole situation that the sister-in-law created for no good apparent reason is wacky. Thor, Dog of Thunder is a rockstar and I'm glad OP has him for both emotional support and safety while her "closest friends/actual family members" are busy playing dumb games! Thor deserves to win the Best Doggo of The Year award!

[@miminana-hd6nf]

yeah, I agree. I don't think it was a dog issue, at all. I think it was an issue of OP having a stalker, they downplayed it It got as serious as it gets, and they could not deal with it. They thought that after the stalker got arrested that OP could erase time and just go back to how things were before the stalker situation. The brother, and SIL suck.

[@immapotato1]

wanna bet she's been feeding the stalker info the whole time for some twisted logic in her head?

[@pippo17173]

@Injamam ul haq ya I'm thinking the stalker is her friend or something. Like I don't get the logic she is putting here about the danger of a dog. It really feel like there is way more here that is not know.

[@louellacharlton4425]

Yes. If Thor was fine around niece before intruder, he'll be OK now. They obviously have no animals, to think this way.

[@FayBelleRose233]

Yeah even the police knew what Thor did was great even calling him a hero. Either way It's clear as day that Thor was just protecting op.

[@bricolleen7956]

Thor is such a good boy. De deserves all the treats and toys.

[@anitaslack9193]

I feel so heartbroken for the woman in the last story. Yeah, she survived, but she didn't come out of it unscathed and it's going to be so much harder for her to recover because people around her will be saying "Why are you having such a hard time? It's not like you even got hurt" the entire time she fights to rebuild her reality. Thor is a god among dogs and deserves only the juiciest steaks and bounciest tennis balls for the rest of his hopefully very long life.

[@charlottewalnut3118]

See this kind of thing is why you should always train in proper self-defense, and I don’t mean puny stuff like kick your attacker in the testicles I mean pinch in their carotid, artery and yank self-defense the kind designed to do no less than kill

[@ericaallisonc]

@@charlottewalnut3118 better yet, have your gun easily within grabbing distance. Everyone in my household has bedknife. Never have had to use it, but it is better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it. We also have 2 security doors, bars on our windows, security cams with sensors, a locked chain link fence, and a dog. so we would hear a break-in long before they got in the house.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@charlottewalnut3118 Mom taught my sisters and me how to turn our keys into bladed brass knuckles and 'get DNA samples' for the police to track down any attackers. My paternal grandpa slept with a baseball bat next to his bed. It's not like we lived in dangerous areas, either. This was the rural Midwest.

[@83gemm]

I just kinda feel like SIL is upset that OP is getting attention for almost getting murdered. That’s why she downplayed OP needing her dog and tried to say she thought she was over the attack. Either that, or she has the emotional intelligence of a house plant. I can totally appreciate her being nervous to have a four year old around the dog for a while until it was certain Thor wasn’t still worked up or on alert. Both toddlers and dogs can be unpredictable. But the way she just dropped OP and the statements she made were cruel.

[@alexisgrunden1556]

I think your average Boston fern or philodendron is more sensitive than her.

[@artistwithawanderingeye908]

I remember story 1. The fact that OP's parents KNEW brother had warrants on him and his gf and still made OP host them is infuriating. I hope she remembers this moment and how they tried to screw her over just so their own hands could be clean

[@yozarahirvi4750]

so it's an old story ? meaning there's no more update ? that's strange it have a taste of unfinished

[@artistwithawanderingeye908]

@@yozarahirvi4750 I remember this story from around a year or so ago. Besides the part about OP asking if she should report her brother from vandalism, this is an old story.

[@JordanDragonAs]

I think it was mentioned on reddit that the mom knew but the dad had found out a few days before

[@SoicAngellis]

Don't blame the dad, the mom was the cunt in the situation. Dad was telling OP to kick brother to the curb and laughed about him potentially going to jail

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@JordanDragonAs So that pretty much confirmed what we knew all along. OP's garbage brother is her mother's golden child and she's practically been spoiling and enabling him all his life and likely expected OP and her father and later her husband and maybe even her children to spoil and enable him too. It also confirmed that OP's mom failed her family, not only by playing favorites and expecting her husband and then her daughter to clean up any messes made by deadbeat brother, but also for spoiling her son rotten and turning him into the narcissist that he's become, obviously. Not sure why Mom would do all that(maybe she's a narcissist herself or maybe she's just another spineless enabler), but yeah. Mom clearly failed as a mother.

[@ILJ68]

As one who survived an armed home invasion where I had a gun shoved in my mouth to get me to move, I hope OP is getting some professional support. Took me 28 years to confront, and I’m now working through some very complex PTSD. I wish I had done so decades ago.

[@simonO712]

That sounds absolutely terrifying! Really glad you're finally getting some support.

[@Kstanimal]

Jesus Christ I'm so sorry. I am so glad you're safe now

[@catT5236]

I'm so sorry you went through that & incredibly glad you're getting the help you need to deal with such a traumatic experience. Sometimes we need a bit of space before we can actively work on the trauma, so please don't be hard on yourself that it took you some time to face it.

[@bellerose3460]

OP: This is where Thor comes in. He's a 100 pound American Bulldog. My dumb dog groomer brain, verbalising it's thought: BABYYYYY

[@BbiBbii]

Story 2: NTA. My sister is my best friend and if I went through what OP went through, and my sister & her bf just instantly brushed me off & said the dog that saved my life is dangerous; I would’ve bawled my eyes out. Easily one of the easiest ways to get cut out of my life. I’d be more blatant with it though. Like “Oh the dog that stopped someone from, at best kidnapping me, and at worse, murdering me? That dog snapped and is dangerous? Really? Goodbye.” Then block them and move on. I’m 100% sure infants have more emotional sense than that SIL and Brother. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@Digitalfairy]

Id have been more malicious by manipulating niece saying "Sorry honey you can't see me or Thor anymore because Mommy obviously wanted the bad guy to hurt me and is mad Thor stopped him!" and when SIL protests, answer back that's exactly all you heard. Because quite frankly I wouldn't trust her again afterwards.

[@BbiBbii]

@@Digitalfairy Right? I seriously doubt SIL and brother “didn’t realize how hard” the situation is for OP. OP shouldn’t have to say getting stalked for that long, and then having said stalker break into her house is traumatic. Anyone with half a brain cell would know that’s traumatic, I’m seriously shocked OP wants to keep those two in her life. Maybe as time goes on she’ll look back and realize just how odd those two are.

[@tiffinyhunter5901]

I think its even more than that. I think SIL didnt tale the last year serious as she didnt want OP to be the center of attention (not the best term but its all my tired brain can do) and then she blocks the dig knowing OP wont come too. Then no one can talk to OP about anything. Most families would be supportive and would want to show ones who are going thru the year OP went thru they support them. You do this by soeaking to them, showing them , etc and SIL would not want OP to get that much attention.

[@BbiBbii]

@@tiffinyhunter5901 I hope this isn’t the case cause that would be absolutely disgusting

[@Digitalfairy]

@@tiffinyhunter5901 Whoa, that'd be messed up. I was suspicious that SIL knew who the stalker was and was trying to cover it up - but your reasoning might be more plausible.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

In story 2 I still don't get how they thought she was "fine" like what the heck, how much do they not understand how much she was scared

[@MONKEYDZETS]

No, the Chinese big deal she’s being stopped. She nearly got kidnapped and possibly murdered and they going well. Your stockers is in jail. She should be back to normal like Lottie Dod. I didn’t happen before.

[@bunnyslippers191]

It was just easier to tell themselves that OP's living in terror for over a year then nearly getting dragged off to someplace out in the woods, tortured, and murdered was NBD than to have to acknowledge all that and actually support her. They didn't know what she went through because they didn't want to know. Acknowledging that there are people like that out there would threaten their complacency that all the world is sweet butterflies and rainbows. It isn't, but they don't want to know about it, so they just didn't let it into their minds. They're still doing that. *Any* dog, no matter the breed, even a Golden Retriever, will probably fight someone who threatens their human. By saying the dog "snapped and could snap and do it again" is totally minimizing the extreme danger OP was in when her ex broke into her house. The ex intended to torture and kill OP, her dog knew this other human had evil intent, and attacked the enemy to protect his human. That's the Goodest of Good Boys. His restraint was remarkable in that he didn't attack the intruder until OP screamed and started running to get her gun. Dog knew for sure at that moment it was Go Time and he acted. He did his job and saved his human's life. He's a fucking hero and Brother and SIL are dicks who are so wrapped up in themselves they didn't even allow themselves to notice that over a year of OP's acting tough was fronting.

[@paulagoeringer9466]

@@bunnyslippers191 yes, her dog is a hero. I hope he gets the biggest, best steak 🥩 and toys. 😁

[@kimsvisualdiary]

@@bunnyslippers191 This is the kind of family that would be all over social media talking “RIP to our beautiful daughter/sister/etc” if she had been killed by her stalker. But don’t care about her while she’s still alive.

[@fantasticmrfox9291]

Lack of empathy, the ability to mentally put yourself in another's position, to think about how they might have felt not what 'You' would theoretically would do/handle it'

[@LeeLeesBanter]

That last story really got me. I feel so sorry for her, but at the same time very happy that she handled such a terrible situation so smartly! Stalkers are delusional & no amount of extra fear is unreasonable when dealing with such a wild card.

[@khaleesireyna731]

Plus OP is (from the sound of it) a single woman living alone. Home invasion and attempted kidnapping/murder for someone like OP is some straight-up horror movie shit. The brother and SIL are either the dumbest people alive (doubleful) or they're insensitive jackasses who deserved FAR worse than the mild discomfort OP gave them (more likely imo).

[@sammyk.6457]

Thor is a big good boy, hearing that story made me miss my dogs that I lost last year. I have an abusive father and he would stalk my sister and me for a while and one day when we were teens he tried to break into the house, he put his hand through a broken window and grabbed my sister. She screamed and both our boxers swarmed and were in full attack mode which was scary to see as they were both sweet hearts and never acted like that before or after that

[@AndyyWithAY]

I'm always against cheaters but the brother is the worst kind've cheater. I am disgusted. You're 51 with FIVE children and you have the nerve to have an affair?? How do you have the time or energy? At that age with that many kids??

[@Callimo]

Right? And he's impregnated the mistress twice, too! Although, I suspect that either they depend on a nanny for childcare OR, OP's brother leaves the childcare to the women only yeesh

[@JordanDragonAs]

Remember he also quit his job and moved in with his parents.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yeah. Well, that fact that OP's mom was essentially spoiling and enabling her brother all his life really doesn't help, as OP stated he is her mother's golden child. The golden child who turned out to be an absolute dumpster fire.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Midlife crisis? That’s where my mind went lol.

[@akl2k7]

@@itsjustmaddisen Then he should have gotten a sports car, not knocked someone up. lol

[@psygaud]

I have a friend whose house was broken into while they weren't there. That was enough for her to not feel safe at home even after they caught the person. How could anyone think that you'd be fine after getting confronted in your home by someone who wants to actually hurt you? Even if you know that the person is in jail, the feelings of being violated don't just go away.

[@khaleesireyna731]

Thats exactly why I think OP is sadly right on the money with her last point: her brother and SIL don't have her back as much as she has theirs and her traumatic experience is super inconvenient for them. They deserve to be called out on every level for that level of insensitivity.

[@fytrndm]

Brother and SIL are fair weather people, that's why.

[@devegas4910]

Story 1: OP’s mom should work overtime since she wants to suggest someone else do that.

[@EluneAnzu]

Every time I hear a story similar to the first story I'm reminded of the story where the OP's brother was a leech and the aunt called saying "but family" so the OP dropped the brother off at the aunt's. I wish more people would do that, too many people are too loosey goosey with other people's stuff.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

I bet that made the aunt shut up after that.

[@floraposteschild4184]

You'd think at some point this 51 year old man would take himself to the drugstore or the doctor. Snip, snip! Anyway, mom and his other supporters can chip to support the bonus family.

[@Russman67]

So he's 51 years old, has no job, has warrants, cheated on his wife and got her the mistress pregnant. Just how many strikes is mama going to give this fool and still be the golden child? I mean it sounds like Dad got it right though at 51 that lesson he's got to learn is way late!

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

I'm now convinced that Mom has been spoiling her golden boy behind Dad's back since childhood and will continue to spoil him until she dies. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she becomes old and frail and he dumps her somewhere and takes her for everything. And she would deserve it for failing as a mother.

[@dawnwagoner8307]

The mom should take them in instead! This is outrageous on your brother’s fault

[@JohnnyDominion]

Like her husband would allow it. The dad is encouraging his daughterntomlick them out you really think he's gonna let them live on his dime.

[@charlottewalnut3118]

@@JohnnyDominionhe shouldn’t

[@Amna613]

Story 1: OP's brother is a moocher and lech and Mum is a big AH. Story 2: All I can see is SIL is disturbed that her free babysitting facilities are not to her liking anymore.

[@anthonystike6034]

Story # 2: Yep, you hit the nail on the head.

[@eowyn8340]

Story2: You’d think SIL would feel better knowing Thor is such a good protector. I bet she just doesn’t like dogs.

[@SilverstreamPJ28]

Story 1: OP's mom can open her own wallet if she feels so inclined to help out her son and his mistress

[@alexisgrunden1556]

Given how he was encouraging her to give the parasites the boot, $5 says that OP's Dad would instantly shoot that idea down.

[@SilverstreamPJ28]

@@alexisgrunden1556 definitely! People are quick to be generous when it's someone else's money

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@SilverstreamPJ28 That's exactly what spineless enablers do. They don't want to deal with the situation so they take the garbage person's side and expect the victim to be a doormat and give in to the garbage person, just to maintain the fragile peace. But my parents always told me and my siblings to NEVER reward or enable despicable behavior.

[@samoanjoseph1457]

Story 2: If a dog that protects you is "too dangerous" to be around relatives... sounds like those relatives just volunteered to only visit via Zoom or Skype or FaceTime. Clearly, there is a need for Thor. There is not a need for relatives who like to judge. Easy choice. OP may feel she needs their support, but I think she needs better support than them.

[@leegraves8878]

Last story Thor is such a good boy and your brother and sil can kick rocks cut them out.

[@Digitalfairy]

Yeah. I'd have been more malicious by manipulating niece saying "Sorry honey you can't see me or Thor anymore because Mommy wanted the bad guy to hurt me and is mad Thor stopped him!" and when SIL protests, answer back that's exactly all you heard. Because quite frankly I wouldn't trust her again afterwards.

[@juanhaines7295]

Story 1 nta I would expect nothing less from a guy who cheated on his wife who he had four kids with.

[@samoanjoseph1457]

Story 1: "She feels I should continue working overtime for the new baby." The problem with that is having babies is the only work the mistress is doing, so there may ALWAYS be a new baby. She could easily outnumber the five kids that the brother abandoned.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Nope! They DO NOT need to be having ANYMORE children! Period! OP should buy her brother a vasectomy as a goodbye present.

[@LilChuunosuke]

*Story 2:* Speaking from personal experience, its *shocking* how many people think that way. So many people think that after you endure a traumatic event, you can go back to a relatively normal life with no stress. Trauma rewires your brain to avoid situations that will put you in danger again. Often times, your brain will make odd connections as to what is and is not safe. PTSD is not just for veterans or people who have survived shootings and terror attacks. Trauma is a very real medical problem that is brushed under the rug and is not taken as seriously as it should. A lot of people have NO IDEA how much emotional trauma damages your physical wellbeing unless they've experienced it. I would start inexplicably tremoring at random intervals of the day for the first 5 years post-trauma & sometimes I would have no idea what connections my brain made in order to trigger an automatic fear response. I can't sleep without taking drugs. My body is hyper-vigalent of noises while I'm sleeping so I can't be caught off guard and attacked in bed. People need to educate themselves on how people with trauma actually live.

[@Raaslen]

Story 2: if my sister's dog saved her life from a stalker I would show up with the biggest piece of bacon my local butcher have to give it to the good boi

[@phoenixfire8978]

Steak and bacon bouquet

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Don’t give dogs bacon.

[@fytrndm]

Dude, I'm paying for a dog spa day or whatever for the good dog. Then again, I actually like my siblings. Her brother's reaction makes me wonder if the brother and SIL even liked OP or she was just a good babysitter and now she's "broken", she's no use to them.

[@garysprandel1817]

Hell that's a big ol sirloin for ol Thor.

[@tunatofu63]

I thought I was fine and recovered after a bad fall down the stairs where I had multiple injuries broke ankle etc. But when I went to a concert we had seats way up in the nosebleed seats. I was terrified of all those stairs and the height and nearly fainted from fear. Completely caught me by surprise.I had never been afraid of high places before in my life. My point is you are afraid until you aren't then maybe even a bit after. Take your time and work through it at uour pace.

[@awkwardbash]

I like the whole "your kids will understand mummy pulling over time" if that was my mother saying that I would respond with "I understand my mummy coming out of retirement to continue to raise your narcissist son, which I see where he gets it from"

[@damien678]

OP 2 getting shitty comments bullying her for needing a dog is so, so cruel. I have agoraphobia, but I'm not a delicate person. I'm prone to anxiety and panic BECAUSE I know reacting violently to what I'm perceiving as a threat will just end badly for me. Those of us scared of going outside aren't all fragile, and I don't think OP is. She is reacting pretty reasonably to what happened. She could have been kidnapped and murdered by a crazy stalker ex. She's clearly resilient and I completely resent the people that tried to tear her down for being human.

[@TheKingOfRuckus]

OP's father is legit and isn't getting enough credit for his support of OP.

[@4swordsluver]

Fr he is great so glad OP had the support of at least one sane parent!!

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yeah. And he has the patience of a saint to be married to such a blatant enabler.

[@justaperson4656]

Thor deserves all the pats, good boy

[@mangaanimefan3089]

The goodest of boys!! 🐕👑

[@Iflie]

Thor sounds like a great dog, especially since he seems like a rescue and you do not always know how those have been treated. He dealt with the threat after the owner screamed , alerting him to danger, not before. He also came back after seeing the danger off, he was not out of control or "snapped" that's how a well trained protection dog would act. The guy is obviously fine too as he's in jail not the hospital. The dog also knows the niece well so it's unlikely he is kid aggressive. Though I understand SIL not wanting to take any chances I think it's likely they had some other reasons to not want her and the dog in the house. Sometimes people withdraw after tragedies, sad but true. Also they may have been laughing about the stalker behind her back and now feel bad as it al turned out to have been serious and true.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

Thor sounds like a normal dog. Dogs defend their owners all the time. But but they kill sometimes children, yeah that is bad training. I have a lot of dogs if i raise my hand pretending to hit my daughters, mother etc they will try to stop me. First with jumping against me than the hold my hand with their mouths and if that won't work they WILL attack me. Dog have a lot of stops before they realy attack. If you ignore those and many people do you create a problem. Thor was never a problem he took the right stops, he whined to warn his owner, when attacked she screamt was his warming sign to react and when she run he go full attack mode. I had a dog attacking a burgelar after he never bite anyone again.

[@Iflie]

@@paulinadeboer3604 Yes and killing children doesn't come out of the blue the way some people think. They just didn't pay attention to the signs. I've seen some of the testing for dogs that have bitten a person or a child and some clearly hate children or fear them from having been kicked and abused by them. Its good advice to never leave a small kid alone with a dog, even their own dog as both have no reasoning skills yet and their face is right at mouth height. But it has nothing to do with showing proper aggression with not just a burglar but a known threat to the house and person. I can't imagine what anger that guy must have stunk of as he was trying to kill her. One of my neighbour's dogs tried to kill him, that dog walked with it's tail between her legs for years and the guy was mentally ill and probably aggressive. to the wife and the dog one day tried to deal with it once and for all. They put her to sleep while still on top of the guy. No one could have missed the signs that all was not well in that situation.

[@paulinadeboer3604]

@@Iflie exactly this.

[@uh8myzen]

@@Iflie Yup, I've seen this a few times volunteering for animal shelters or in my own neighbourhoods. Sweet, kind dogs turned mean by mistreatment by owners or neighbours. I saw one that was tormented by kids on skateboards for years and ended up turning aggressive if it so much as heard the sound of a skateboard. Another who was tormented by the neighbour's kids and ended up aggressive with all children. Some of these dogs attacked or nearly did and everyone acted surprised like it came out of nowhere. That said, it is wise to avoid leaving a dog or cat alone with small children as you say. Even play for animals can be far more aggressive and violent than small humans can take and human children can unintentionally hurt an animal thereby provoking violent reactions from otherwise loving and patient pets.

[@Iflie]

@@uh8myzen Even if the dog is perfectly behaved if they see a baby or child as theirs to reprimand they can do a lot of damage as puppies are way more tough than a human baby or child. Cats tend to not break the skin with their teeth, they are remarkably controlled. Their claws is something they use fust and for a short time. They teach kids to back off pretty well. They always worry about a baby getting smothered, some cats will lay on the wrong place. Of course as the child grows this will be a non issue. It's always the parent's responsibility to teach their child how to treat animals with respect and how to give them space. Even a baby can be very gentle if taught.

[@AndyyWithAY]

I'm not someone who constantly says that people nowadays are too soft, but SIL has me rolling my eyes hard. You think the dog who saved your niece's aunt is a threat?? I'd just let them both F off. SIL is not a good person. I don't think she's justified and I'd be done with her. This should just be self-explanatory. She doesn't deserve and is not justified to receive an explanation. The past literally doesn't even matter. Someone broke in and would've probably killed OP. That's enough.

[@lynnw7155]

I love dogs,(I have 2) but I would be cautions with my children around a dog who ripped up an intruder.

[@demonic_myst4503]

that says alot abiut u not the dog

[@demonic_myst4503]

You own two yet your ignorant about dogs There is no such thing as a dog that cant rip somone apart of they feel their threatening them their nit hippies

[@LunaMane]

That's not even soft, it's damn inconsiderate and apathetic. And OP isn't paranoid at all for thinking her slag-in-law and twat brother didn't want to give her emotional support so they made up a lie about Thor. No realistic person is going to say a dog is unsafe around loved ones because it attacked a threat. And from what OP explained the dog wasn't an issue before. The slag-in-law and twat brother were just apathetic punks and realized, too late, how inconsiderate they were. Of course though their pride wouldn't allow them to admit they didn't care about a relative's fragile state so they decided to make a lie and commit to it. And I hope that screws with them for years knowing how shamefully they reacted.

[@WobblesandBean]

Uhhhh....the dog literally tore a man to shreds. OF COURSE the dog is a credible threat!

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

Story 2. Thor is absolutely a hero! Your SIL is a complete AH. Thor didn't snap. He protected his pack. My daughter has a service dog, Caramel. When she is working, she is spot on. When it is playtime, my 2 year old nephew can crawl on her, ride her like a horse, and pull his ears. And when my daughter was out late shopping, and a guy tried to run up on her, and Caramel went into protect mode, and brought the guy down. Had Thor "snapped," he would not have come back to you after you stalker ran away, and he most likely would have attacked you as well. I understand that your SIL is nervous, it's her child, and she wants her to be safe. Maybe SIL can spend time with Thor on her own so she can become comfortable and see he isn't a danger.

[@demonic_myst4503]

People buy pets not knowing animals are animals its pike when begans buy a cat and try feeding it a vegan diet its ignorance on their part atributing hunan behaviors roxanimals All dogs are capable of fightibg to protect somone. Some are not good at it but their os no sich thong as a pacifist dog

[@borgranta61103]

Story 1: It sounds like the mother could be charged with harboring a fugitive by helping the cheater and his mistress evade law enforcement.

[@baskervillebee6097]

#2 Keep Thor, lose SIL.

[@Sushi_Cat2793]

Story two: I’ve only seen the title but I say, treat that dog like how it’s meant to be. A hero. The dog might have just saved your life, give it a bunch of praise. Including everyone here, praise the doggo.

[@ItsYaBoiV]

Absolutely NTA. Funny how the family isn't cutting off cheating brother. Clearly they don't care so long as they have grandkids.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

OP and her dad will probably cut ties with deadbeat brother at some point. As for deadbeat brother and his mistress, they deserve each other and Mom shouldn't be surprised when OP inevitably decides to go low contact or no contact with her for playing favorites and expecting her to clean up after her brother all the time.

[@mossynovels]

Story 2: I'm so proud of op that I could almost cry. Her life was in very real danger, and she did everything in her power to keep herself safe. That dog is absolutely a hero, both of them are. The insensitivity from her "closest friends" is honestly appalling. I understand that their first priority is the safety of their daughter, but they emotionally abandoned op *weeks after an attempt on her life*. I hope she is able to get a better support system that she can actually rely on without feeling like a burden

[@mbyerly9680]

OP, essentially, became Sarah Connor from the "Terminator" series, and her family didn't notice?

[@ariste01]

I will never understand why people think it's weak to admit they're struggling. We all struggle from time to time. We all need extra support. I think the weak ones are those too afraid to show it and ask for help.

[@katwiltz1134]

Yes because those who ask for help make it easy on you you don't have to pay attention to their life at all you can keep your nose up your own family's butt your entire life and never know that anybody else is struggling because they didn't ask for help wow what a guilt free life you must live. The other side to that is that you never shut up about what's going on in your life and nobody else around you can have something else happen because it's not as bad. It's about balance you're not going to use the same balance with a family of clowns that you're going to use with a family of warriors. There's a difference in between weakness and victimhood. She didn't need anybody else's help she did everything she had to to protect herself none of it would have worked had the dog not been there. There's no way you can tell me that her family didn't notice her struggling and her jokes about the stalker and stuff like that unless they were like you where she had to ask for help that none of them could give that's not help. The ability to talk about your problems in front of other family members is whether or not these family members are going to help if they can help or if they're going to be there for support nothing of these people indicated that her asking for help would have been anything other than futile you know what that's called bitching. But I'm sure you live somewhere where butterflies come out instead of Thieves and shiny Sprites come out instead of rapists.

[@ariste01]

@katwiltz1134 wow, someone feeling ignored much? If she didn't need anyone else's help she wouldn't have been hurt when she didn't get it. I don't have the time or energy to drag the truth out of every single person in my life. If someone is making dark jokes, I'll check in with them, but if they tell me they're OK I'm gonna take them at face value or assume they don't trust me enough to let me in and back off. I am superwoman when I know. My friends will tell you I'm always there to lend an ear, will do whatever I can to help, and multiple friends credit me with saving their life, but I'm not a mind reader. As for my kin (i refuse to call them family), they kicked me when I was down to the point it almost ended me. They're the type that likes to pretend anything negative just doesn't exist.

[@khaleesireyna731]

I think some of that unwillingness to admit we're struggling comes from knowing already that you're struggling. The anxiety/fear that hangs over you in that situation is ever-present, so you already feel fragile, which is the last thing you want to feel when dealing with that.

[@ariste01]

@kharper0527 but if we normalized sharing our burdens that wouldn't be an issue. Things get easier to carry when you redistribute the weight. Also it can be a relief to focus on someone else's problems for a little when you're neck deep in your own.

[@randomusername3873]

@@ariste01 in my esperience people rarely supports you when you are struggling

[@audraverela3663]

Oh what a good baby, good job Thor! I’m glad he could help you, OP.

[@emcustard]

Story 1: How is it OP's fault if her brother's actions lead to his kids getting taken away? That mom is crazy.

[@rylashadow18]

S1) When will people learn that no is a complete sentence. If OP has a court order all they have to do is call up the police/ non emergency number to let them know she has unwanted people living it up on her property. Then tell anyone that's saying "Think about your niece/ the baby(ies) tell them your brother should of thought about his first responsibilities which were to his wife and family before playing cheat master 5000 and if they're offering to take her in their welcomed to her." Then change the locks, install camera's around the property and make it clear that brother can sleep in that bed he made cause he's getting no further help from you. S2) Let me first say I'm sorry you got put through this OP. For you Thor's more than just a dog. He's the being that quite literally saved your life. If you have the police reports. the messages, the voicemails or anything else that shows just how dangerous this psycho was have it ready when you ask them to talk. Let them know just the constant fear you lived in with proof of just how bad it was. Remind them that your attacker is just in jail. That Thor isn't likely to hurt someone let alone your niece unless they're a threat to you. While you understand the concerns they have as parents they need to understand your concerns for being victimized by Captain Wackydoodle. Just remember take each step in comfort, support and healing.

[@heatherweir8726]

Cut cords are vandalism. Nail polish could be considered either hard living or vandalism.

[@jjmitch1411]

SIL and stalker in story 2 are why ppl say bull dogs are “scary”. The dog is dogging and once it shows any form of violence including defending their owner, it becomes labeled as “dangerous” instead of “protective”. Good on OP for taking measures to protect herself when cops do cop shit

[@diannamacdonald3716]

Story 1: OP needs to sell the rental so nobody can take advantage of her in the future. Story2: people do not understand that someone who appears strong is sometimes only hiding their fear. Do not judge someone until you’ve walked in their shoes.

[@Sunari]

Story 2: I'm so sorry that this not only happened, but that people don't fully understand the fear involved in this kind of thing. They have an easy time mocking it because they don't understand how it sticks to you, how it's more like weaning yourself off that adrenaline "fight or flight" response rather than flipping a switch. Granted they also don't generally see/notice how it changes your response and reactions to things because they're not always there either. Had a wasp invasion that essentially kicked me out of my room, but they were getting into other parts of the house too (still don't know how, but with my room they'd chewed an entrance into the wall so that was lovely to realize). My friends knew I hated it and was generally afraid, but they didn't realize how badly I was affected until I was mentioning habits n' things I'd gained in the interim. I hate wasps. I'm afraid of wasps. I really don't want to be stung by wasps because unlike bees they can do it to their heart's content more or less. Those habits and those fears ebbed away as the winter weather started killing the rest of the nest that the pest control couldn't quite get, and eventually I didn't have to do walkthroughs of the house with a raid can in hand or didn't need to keep my glasses on when showering. It still took time for those newfound habits to drop and the anxiety to go away though and this was for something ultimately less serious than a stalker who was about to take things to the ultimate end.

[@owl7072]

Story 1: Now why the hell is it on Op to care for someone else's mistress and child when they had literally nothing to do with it? It's not Op's fault that he couldn't keep it in his pants out of respect for his wife at the bare minimum and it's also not Op's fault that he's got a weak ass pull out game. He slept with someone else. He had a baby _with someone else._ So it's him that gets to face the consequences of that. If he didn't want to house and care for his mistress and child, then _he shouldn't have had a mistress and he shouldn't have had a child._ Edit: These people had _warrants_ on them yet did nothing when Op told them to leave and never once thought to themselves that perhaps Op was gonna take them to court after they ignored not one, but _two_ eviction notices?

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yeah. At this point, I'm surprised that CPS hasn't been called yet. But I'm sure that CPS getting involved is inevitable.

[@claytonmorgan1843]

Story 2: Keep Thor lose the sister in law and anybody else hating on your wonderful dog.

[@kimsvisualdiary]

Story one: so the brother is mom’s golden child. Got it.

[@Lily_of_the_Forest]

I hate cheaters and their affair partners.

[@aileencastaneda3724]

S2 that SIL is a MONSTER. I’m sorry that OP had to go through a traumatizing situation, Thor, is a hero and deserves to be recognized as one. When someone is going through something so traumatic there’s self defense mechanism, joking/laughing about it or not talking about it in general. I bet she’s the one that blames SA victims on their assault instead of the people doing that crime.

[@lonelypizzaslice4845]

Imagine hearing that your siblings life was LITERALLY saved by their dog, and then blaming the dog for "snapping", wtf

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #1: Ouch. I knew the moment OP got bullied into letting their brother's mistress move into their rental, that property was going to get trashed. Glad OP got them evicted, finally, at least. Yikes. Those poor kids. Story #2: I feel really sorry for OP. Thor is a rockstar. SIL is a twit. Hopefully, this is now getting resolved.

[@MizTameRumors]

Story 1 NTA. Why TF should op work overtime to house her brother and mistress when the mistress doesn’t even work at all? Any family who has issue can house them themselves.

[@Rose_Bride]

When I was around 3 or 4 years old, I was nearly attacked by two VERY LARGE, aggressive/ _feral_ dogs. My mother had come over with me and my (then infant) brother to help my (now late) granny (her mom) weed her vegetable garden. My granny used to plant a HUGE vegetable garden each year with _all sorts_ of things (corn, tomatoes, peppers, okra, eggplant, squash, etc). My mom would come over and help weed it with her. My baby brother was asleep and placed into house, and I was in the yard (well within their sight). I heard a low growl and looked up to see two huge dogs a few yards away staring at me. I was a country girl, and had previously been warned NOT to run when I see a dog, so I nervously tried backing away slowly, but the dogs IMMEDIATELY followed. Well that was it for me, and I turned tail and RAN, screaming for my life. Unfortunately, my tiny baby legs were no match for these huge dogs. Had I fallen or tripped, I would have been ripped to shreds. LITERALLY. In fact, it's a _given_ that even if I _hadn't_ tripped these dogs would have 100% gotten me regardless...but our Lord God was watching over me; my mom and granny had heard my screams and came running. Remember when I said that my mom had come over to help my granny weed her garden? Well, they weren't exactly doing it by hand; they had _tools,_ you see. Keep in mind that this was DECADES ago, in the 1980's, back when tools were still REAL, i.e. made with long, thick, HEAVY, solid oak handles, and ends made of iron/cast iron. And my granny kept all her tools SHARP. And both my mother and granny _just so happened_ to have BOTH been using HEAVY, _recently sharpened_ hoes. ...you can guess where this is going. After the first several hits made contact with the dogs, they both turned tail and RAN hollering, but my mom and granny gave chase...just as the dogs had chased _me._ And before anyone goes feeling bad for the dogs, understand that this wasn't these dogs _first_ attack; See, these dogs had ALREADY attempted to attack OTHER, children in the neighborhood _as well as_ some ADULTS. The owner knew this but regularly laughed off complaints and NEVER bothered to leash his dogs. Unfortunately there are SOME selfish, entitled, *IDIOT* dog owners who fully believe that if they live in deep country rural areas they somehow "don't have to" leash their dogs. 🙄 So these dogs basically STAYED in other people's yards forever TERRORIZING them. This event has caused me to be absolutely TERRIFIED of dogs _TO THIS DAY._ Yet even with my extreme fear and trauma of dogs due to this event, I am 100% on this woman's side. The fact that SIL and her brother are unwilling to even try to come up with solutions tells me that they weren't as "close" to OP as OP thought. I have a feeling they were mainly just using her as free emergency child care and babysitting. I also think that OP's suspicions are correct when she says that they were using the dog as an excuse so they would not have to see her and deal with her trauma. I hope OP continues to get better and recover, and I hope she NEVER gets rid of her dog!

[@kbf9644]

#1 - F no! NTA! There are two adult responsible for those children and neither of them are OP.

[@kissedbypalefirex]

op is strong ,she fought back & survived. i hope the Mighty Thor got a steak, he is a good boy.

[@pippo17173]

Why bother housing a cheater? Like seriously everyone please stop trying to help cheaters. Tell them to screw off.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

My thoughts exactly! They NEED to face the consequences of their actions. OP's brother made his bed and now it's time to lie in it.

[@momo382844]

I’m not surprised that the situation escalated the way that it did. OP’s Brother has been “Mommy’s Little Darling who can do no wrong “ for his entire life. It’s no wonder he has treated women like trash and will continue in the future. OP, his Ex, and once he gets bored he will give his side piece the boot.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

At this point, Mommy dearest shouldn't be surprised when she becomes old and frail and her precious baby boy inevitably makes her his new punching bag, ATM or something like that.

[@justinecorrington4106]

Story 1: why isn’t the mom working extra to make their rent. B no; why isn’t your brother working overtime… wait, he doesn’t work. If they lose their kids to cps; its because momma and dad decided to quit their job instead of working hard

[@taylorslade961]

Story 2: Thor is the goodest boy and I love him. SIL should be thrilled to have her daughter hang out with such a good guard dog. I had a boxer once upon a time that was normally the goofiest goober but went full protection mode a couple times. He wasn't dangerous or a threat, he was protecting his person, as bully breeds were bred to do. At the time I was still married and my ex was deployed, so I was alone on an Army base in a state where I knew no one.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

I think I remember this story. And Good Grief. Poor OP and her poor poor sister in law............They're in such a bad situation. OP is definitely NTA at all. OP's brother on the other hand is one nasty piece of work and a MAJOR A-hole! Cheating on his wife is bad enough, but he can't be bothered to provide for his kids? ಠ⁠︵⁠ಠ Disgusting. And I'm not surprised that he's Mommy's golden boy. No wonder he's so lazy and entitled. Mom clearly screwed up when she started spoiling and enabling her precious son. Dad on the other hand is absolutely right to tell OP to focus on her own family and that deadbeat brother needs to man up and be a proper father. After Update: I hope OP shows her mother what spoiling her brother resulted in. Maybe then, she'll realize how badly she failed as a mother. Maybe not. Either way, OP now has to clean up the mess her brother made when he left. And I must say that she and her husband were a little too generous in my opinion. It's way past time for deadbeat brother to be cut off. Some people just need to hit rock bottom to realize that they won't get by leeching off of others, if they can realize that. "Sigh" What a mess. (⁠-⁠_⁠-⁠;⁠)

[@brigidtheirish]

Eh, chances are, the mom will just blame OP for it all.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@brigidtheirish Then it might be time to cut contact. If Mom still doesn't get it or worse, knows OP's right, but she still enables her precious baby boy, then it's time for OP to cut ties with her mother. I would say the same for OP's father, but maybe he can outlive his wife.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@PrincessQ-fj9ly Do wonder why he stays with her. Maybe because things would've been worse if the kids were left alone with that woman and inertia set in after they were grown. Or maybe he thinks he can still mitigate some of the damage she causes. I dunno. He does seem to be the only one with an ounce of sense in that family besides OP.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

​@@brigidtheirish Probably that, Dad stayed because he knew that Mom would be petty and vindictive enough to keep him from OP and her brother from him. Seriously, I feel sorry for OP and anyone who has a mother like that. (⁠٥⁠↼⁠_⁠↼⁠)

[@brigidtheirish]

@@PrincessQ-fj9ly Likely enough. And same. It sounds like a nightmare.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Hey you yes you, take a deep breath let it out slowly, and lower your shoulders. Know that you are important to someone even if you feel like no one loves you, guess what I do. I'm so proud of you being here. Thank you. Now make sure you take care of yourself and drink some water, eat something and take a stretch break.💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗

[@charliep5991]

Been really struggling today and yesterday. Been having some bad thought. Thank you for this ❤ merry Christmas

[@persephoneszeliga]

Omg, I love you.❤ You are so sweet and thoughtful and just a blessing to everyone. Thank you so much for your kindness; it means so much more than you can know. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year my friend.🙂

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@charliep5991I'm sorry those really suck. I hope they get easier to do overcome cause you deserve that. I hope you have a magical Christmas, much love m8🤗🤗💜💜

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@persephoneszeliga merry Christmas and have a sweet year next year much love m8 🤗🤗💜💜

[@rainbowqueen247]

You will never know how much I needed this... sending hugs.

[@CreepyBlueAnimals84]

Last Story: First of all, OP, you are an absolute Rockstar for taking control of the situation!! Preparing yourself in every way and being so level headed about it all. Good Luck to you and WAY TO GO GIRL!! Second, Thor is a badass dog and I am so happy he's found a home and owner he loves enough to know when to protect her. WAY TO GO THOR!!

[@lisaconnor4648]

It's not "the parents," it's the mom. The brother can't live with them because the dad obviously isn't gonna put up with that, which is why he told OP to kick the brother out and when he laughed when the brother got served. The Mom is telling OP to risk her mental health for her brother and his mistress and not offering to put in the help and gaslighting the OP. If it were me the lady wouldn't have been able to even move in cause It's not my responsibility to take care of the lady you cheated with.

[@TwiggyHetfield27]

Story 2: So OP buys Petey (the dog from the Little Rascals), he protects her from her stalker & OPs SIL is like "no he's too DaNgErOuS to be around my daughter" That fact that there was ZERO sympathy for OP from brother & SIL is what pisses me off. She was almost murdered! And all they can think is "well the dog is dangerous" That dog would be getting ALL the pets & treats.

[@TsukiKageTora]

Story 1: mom: you need to support your brother OP: no, you need to support your son you birthed and raised to cheat on his wife

[@catT5236]

Story two: there's something weird going on with the brother & SIL, because you'd have to have the emotional intelligence & empathy of a rock encased in ice to think someone was "fine" whilst being stalked. Seriously not even bringing the break in, attempted kidnapping & attempted murder into it, just the stalking alone would be enough to cause PTSD. Add in all the rest & there's no way they could think OP was fine. That's trauma on top of trauma, on top of even more trauma! Nobody goes through all that unaffected & tbh even people who don't have empathy could logically understand that's a lot for someone to deal with. Which is why I think there's more to this, because I genuinely don't see how they could have thought that. If they did they both need to get some therapy before they screw their kid up because they obviously have no understanding of emotional needs.

[@oakenshadow6763]

PTSD. OP was nearly murdered. OP should want Thor around. That is healthy. But the brother and sister in law want it to be over, so they thought Happily Ever After was achived. They forget healing takes time. I'm glad things got resolved.

[@dragonstooth4223]

geez that first one ... the brother is treating his sister like a door mat ... and cost her a lot. but the mom still supports the brother? geez what a toxic family

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

Story 2: OP needs trauma therapy and her family needs sensitivity training. I have guard dogs (GSD mixes) who stay outside at night to patrol my property. They are sweet and cute as buttons around all my friends and their dogs big and small and they love children. SIL in this story seems to have a weird idea that dogs exist simply as cuddle buddies and any aggressiveness from them means that they are killers and dangerous to everyone. SMFH.

[@annabethsmith-kingsley2079]

A mother does't need a *reason* to not want her child to be around a pet, any pet. That said, the pet owner doesn't have to accommodate them if they don't want to.

[@NottyAries]

Last story: the SIL and brother were comfortable hanging with op when she had an active dangerous stalker on the loose, but became instantly uncomfortable when the dog protected her. I get the fear of the dog for the child but a compromise should be considered.

[@fufufuaru]

dad laughing took away the scrunched up look on my face LMAO still pissed me off that OP agreed to house the mistress in the first place though.

[@josephbrown9665]

Op with the dog problem. My sister in law freaked out about my dogs because they bite people when they go on my property. She thought they would bite her kids. I showed her that my dogs will protect them from any other people including me. I grabbed my nephew and told him to yell like he’s in trouble and just like I thought the dogs were on me trying to protect him. She was sold afterwards. This was years ago but she has since gotten a new outlook on the dogs I keep.

[@THE_CDN]

Story #1: Those are some sh!te parents. Story #2: She's suffering from PTSD and her family still doesn't get the severity of what she went through.

[@juliebiggerbear7300]

About story 2, I want to send a nice heavy blanket for OP and a lifetime supply of doggo treats to Thor for being the *BESTEST BOI!!!!!*

[@CircusoftheMoon]

My dog killed another dog when it came into my yard and attacked me. After the police brought him back and gave him a bath to clean up the blood I gave him a steak. Lol I had some people tell me they were afraid of him after that, I told them they can feel free to not come over. He’s not going anywhere.

[@moirapledger9153]

That pupper needs to be a ptsd support dog.

[@LadyJoolree]

Story 2: Brother and SIL ain't shit! Their family member can go through all that and they pile on more yet keep their distance?! Don't worry OP, when they're desperate for childcare again they'll miraculously get over it. I wouldn't be so quick to jumping back to setting yourself on fire to keep them warm.

[@Digitalfairy]

I'd have been more malicious by manipulating niece saying "Sorry honey you can't see me or Thor anymore because Mommy obviously wanted the bad guy to hurt me and is mad Thor stopped him!" and when SIL protests, answer back that's exactly all you heard. Because quite frankly I wouldn't trust her again afterwards.

[@mpmansell]

Story 1. Nta. Op should get a lawyer to write a letter to be sent to all family members who are abusing her, putting them on notice that their demands and bullying mean she will sue them all for the outstanding money. It might not have any weight, but would stress them a little bit :) OP should also get her kids to write letters to all the ahole's saying how cruel they are to demand Thier mother be away from them and that they are all horrible people and not real family. Let them handle that, too, and deal with the ongoing bad feelings from the kids

[@Weirdandwonderfull19]

The only people responsible for their children are the parents, and if they get taken away by child services, then it's the parents fault. Brother and mistress are selfish and irresponsible, they don't sound like they are suitable or responsible enough to be raising children!! Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be a bad thing. OP shouldn't have to work overtime to support two full grown adults. Mummy didn't raise her precious baby boy very well 😂. Mum can house them, work overtime and support them. If not, she's just a selfish hypocrite.

[@beccaf262]

That OP is an absolute warrior I am so fucking proud of her for her strength!

[@wmdkitty]

Yeah... I feel for OP, but I agree that SIL's priority is keeping Daughter safe.

[@marionmarshall8438]

Thor, the best thing is to have the niece bond with Thor, under close supervision. The dog will protect the niece too. One of my dogs was spoilt, I was warned she would attack my baby, not a chance, she wouldn't let anyone in untill I said it was ok. She had never shown any protective side before and always was friendly.

[@Torichan888]

I don't buy that SIL and Brother of Story 2 didn't know how hard OP had it. How many events did OP cancel for her strength and tactical training, or just announced that she was unavailable for that time? The time to do that doesn't magically appear. Just one class/ session a week is a huge time commitment. My martial art class is one hour long: I leave home at 6pm, arrive and change, start class at 630, class ends at 730, between clean up, changing, and chatting I get home between 830 and 9pm. And if you are training to, no joke, no exaggeration, fight for your life, you aren't going to train once or twice a week. I agree with OP that they just didn't want to deal with her while she was fragile.

[@fhuber7507]

1... OP is not responsible to take care of brother's mistress or her kids. When they fail to pay their modest rent... eviction is required. Brother pays or mistress and brother GET OUT.

[@fhuber7507]

And brother's wife is 100% right kicking the serial cheater (and felon) to the curb. OP should just call cops: "These two you have warrants for are at this address."

[@michamocha]

It makes sense that he's the golden child because the mom was way out of line to think it was acceptable that Op take time away from her children in order to work more to fund a grown man and his mistress. HE put himself into this situation. It's time for mommy to stop coddling him and to get a job because he has a new mouth to feed.

[@brittkeller4979]

S2 SIL can go kick rocks. Thor saved OP's life, he is a hero doggo. Much love to Thor, and virtual dog treats to him. SIL needs to read up on PTSD, stalking, and the toll it takes on people. then she might understand what OP is going through.

[@Mglay556]

Story 1: why is op acting like all of this is normal??? None of this is normal!!

[@HonorWillow]

I bet SIL wouldn't call a person who did the same thing dangerous in story 2, or a "nicer" looking dog. Thor is a damn hero. OP would be dead or even more severely hurt and traumatised AT LEAST without them. Thor is amazing. Also the fact that OP offered to put Thor in a crate, like what does she expect Thor to be able to do even if they were violent then? I think people take the idea that people aren't entitled to anything too far. Yes OP is NOT entitled to a relationship with their niece or the whole family, BUT that does not make them trying to ruin that relationship because OP was nearly kidnapped and murdered not a HORRIBLE thing to do. It's the difference between legal and moral. And it's not like that was the only thing they did but SIL also continuously undermined OP's trauma and trauma responses and basically said Thor should have LET OP die... How can you defend that? Yes OP is not entitled to anything, but it's not about that! And OP NOR Thor did anything to deserve this treatment

[@patbracken]

I consider myself a man of peace. If someone broke into my home and tried to attack a family member, I'd get violent too. This is not 'snapping'. This does not make me a threat to children.

[@paden1865able]

Keep your dog, he protected you from being killed. You are his pack leader and he would die defending you. Your brother and sil don't understand the trauma of what you've been through and need education about it. He'd probably protect your nibling because she's also a part of the pack.

[@DemonAngel]

Cant find my comment so here it goes. The op was almost beaten up, tied up, dragged out of her house, thrown into a car, kidnapped, taken to God knows where, tortured abused raped, and then worst case scenario she's thrown into a ditch after she's killed. Her dog stopped all of that from happening. There's a few people I know that would be like it happened. But there are most and the majority of the population who would go I am not okay. I don't agree with sister-in-law being like well the dog attacked before he's going to do it again. No this dog attacked because somebody who the owner did not trust did not like could smell that fear, and attacked and did what it was supposed to do. Even though it wasn't a personal assistant personal attack dog. I honestly think the sister-in-law has read too many stories, has listened to people talk about stuff like this, and his honestly believed and thinks that this dog will attack their child. I don't believe that. That dog is a hero. And protected Opie from the worst thing that could ever possibly happen to anybody. And that's what I believe.

[@Gloria-ro4vn]

Sister-in-law doesn't give damn about your safety. She's flexing, wanting to be the priority in the family, after all she gave the family a GRANDCHILD, and now your getting all the attention, how dare you. I have a family member just like her, she doesn't bother me, just the rest of the family. The rest of the family asks me what's my secret, I tell them she knows I don't give a damn about any of her games and I just laugh at her when she tries.