Meeting Circe! PUPPETEER - EPIC: The Musical | Vocal Coach Reaction (& Analysis) Jennifer Glatzhofer

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

Very exciting that Jay Herrans has announced the Wisdom Saga coming end of August! Obviously I still have a while to go before i’m there so please, no spoilers in the comments! If you are to mention something coming, included ‘NO SPOILERS’ at the top😁 thank you!

[@RayGainbows]

SAME dude! So excited 😆

[@milanvrolijks]

@@JenniferGlatzhofer I'm so curious to see your reactions of the other songs. I know what is coming and it's SO GOOD

[@RevyTheExplorer]

Fun fact: Circe is played by Talya Sindel, who is in a relationship with Jorge in real life. They're super adorable 🥺

[@Blueareo1257]

I was literally about to put this: “Dats his girlfriend too btw 😏😊 tehe.” 🤣❤

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

Not just that, her audition for Circe is how they met.

[@RevyTheExplorer]

@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ oh that's so beautiful 🥺

[@keyjerant7917]

they're so sweet they give me cavities hahahaha they're adorable

[@togucvinw7]

@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZdidn’t she met him after sending a cover of Thunderbringer ?

[@didle6]

14:50 bruh was she so caught up in the musical foreshadowing (Hermes Instrument) that she didn’t even notice the visual foreshadowing

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

Yes absolutely 😂 noticed the wings during editing!!! Nice touch!

[@RayGainbows]

I missed it musically when i first listened to it. The animatics really helped me out. Reactors shouldn't put too much stock in animatic depictions. Not every artist pays close attention to the songs.

[@froilandragon5693]

Peter B and Polites Pancake 🤝 Jen G with the Hermes Sandals

[@dragansnyder2786]

I said this when I actually listened to it for the first time, but I love the idea that cersei was able to seduce them so easily because she has a British accent , which would obviously be foreign to them (also the actress for cersei has so much charisma it's not hard to understand why they fell for her so easily)

[@SauceyRedHN]

It's actually really cool how they do casting for characters. They let ANYONE apply for a role when they need one, regardless of accent, voice, gender, or anything else, and once they've found a good voice, they work everything else (e.g. character) around that. And even if you don't get cast as the character you wanted, you might still get cast as another character, which has happened.

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

Um that’s amazing!😁

[@RatatoskClarke]

Genuinely makes me sad I got into Epic so late as a working actor.

[@area52ron]

Fun fact: one of the men was not turned into a pig he actually died not by Circe herself but by getting so drunk he fell down her stairs no one noticed so they didn’t give him a proper burial

[@joesplace2960]

Poor, poor Elpenor…

[@adamharith782]

Elpenor, how did this happened?

[@NicoWill-h4w]

@@adamharith782 how did this happen how did you meat your despair?

[@fabbius0180]

He died and nobody noticed, he died and nobody cared... 😢

[@beeshark222]

@@NicoWill-h4wi drank wiiine from a chalace…

[@icemagiciangh]

“A woman” 😂 So excited for her analysis of this saga!!

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

😁😁

[@officialmortius]

*what*

[@whatifieat]

Yoooooo ​@@officialmortius

[@whatifieat]

​@officialmortius watch the thunder saga animatics! There's some really good ones. Here's a list of the ones I prefer, (if your reading this) Suffering: gigi Different beast: ximena Nutzel Scylla: gigi (A new one!) Riley G for mutiny Thunder bringer: duvetbox(another new one!) Anyway, I LOVE your reactions. I don't mind you doing the livestream, I'm actually kinda glad you did. But it's just a question 😁

[@milanvrolijks]

@@whatifieat The one from Scylla is SO GOOD. Animatic is better than the song imo. Not that song is bad but still

[@reubenproctor9344]

'Wouldn't you like some pigs' made me cackle :D

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

😂🙈

[@Mariavitoria-dp7lj]

answering the question "why pigs?" tw: mention to s.a no spoilers, mythology context only in some variations of the myth, Circe's island was attacked by a crew of some other Greek hero, whose name I forgot, and several nymphs, including Circe herself (who is a goddess in some versions) were victims of S.A., so she became super protective and turned all men into animals, but it seems that Jorge put them as pigs because of the phrase "all men are pigs". I'm not an expert in mythology but I think that's it, there are several in some variations of the myth, so I can't say if this is the most coherent. 18:37

[@artisticrelief]

I thought she was the daughter of a nymph and the sun god?

[@Klei_ko]

Unrelated but in a Odyssey Simpsons episode Homer's crew also got turned into pigs

[@plaguedoctor2882]

I feel pigs is a popular interpretation because we see them as harmless/symbols of sin/filthy, whereas versions where they are turned into other kinds of animals are dissonant because we see things like lions and birds in a better light (royalty/freedom)

[@jonathangaming7510]

The singer for Circe is actually not even British at all, she's American, the accent is entirely a character choice Additional fact, Talya Sindel who voices Circe and Jorge are actually dating and met through epic.

[@icemagiciangh]

Strings, like ones a puppeteer might have…

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

😱🤯

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

The Circe Saga, easily my favourite saga in the musical so far. Not one track I dislike, and every track I consider S-tier.

[@milanvrolijks]

@@MrJoeyWheeler Not that it's a bad saga but I usually skip this song because I know the story behind it.

[@ControversialOpinionGuy]

Vengeance saga is gonna go soooo hard

[@Macabrellian]

Same! There may be some bias there, considering two of my absolute favourite figures in mythology are in this saga, but it's just _SO _*_GOOD,_*_ DUDE._

[@AUCreatoer]

SAMEEE

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

@@milanvrolijks Story? Care to elaborate? The only "story behind" the tracks I'm aware of are that Jorge and Circe's singer became a couple.

[@DarkestNova556]

You got the danger motif correct. BUT REMEMBER! The danger motif isn’t always in the instrumental music. Sometimes there’s some trickery there like in Ruthlessness.

[@TheBre1491]

Circe just turns men into pigs in the Odyssey. In Greek mythology she turns men into all sorts of animals(wolves and lions are the other two I know of). There are lots of guesses on why pigs but no real answer. Possible the crew were eating and acting like pigs, so she thought it fitting. “All men are pigs” probably wasn’t a saying in Ancient Greece so I’m guessing that isn’t the reason. Not to be dark, but possible she was craving pig meat.🤷‍♀️ The fourth song will hint at why she doesn’t like men so I won’t spoil that.

[@3rdtimesthecharm376]

The Fourth Song only gives a hint: it's easily missed if your mind isn't already in a dark place.

[@rhov-anion]

"All men are pigs" actually comes from the Odyssey and the reason WHY Circe began to turn men into pigs in the first place. (Let's just say, it's very triggering.)

[@Spirited_Phoenix]

The chords going into this song are a callback to the "watch where the birds fly, they will lead us to land. There we'll hunt for food, my second-in-command" in Full Speed Ahead.

[@sureindubitably3771]

I thought it was "Polites gear up, you and I go ahead"?

[@Spirited_Phoenix]

@@sureindubitably3771 ...thaaat would make even more sense considering how many Polites references have been putting me through the wringer * sobs * (and I need to catch up on Jay's short clips) but either way, I took forever to notice that chord progression.

[@milanvrolijks]

Fun fact new saga is coming august 30th

[@Majesticskyyy]

I don't know if you noticed but the puppeteer's (circe's) instruments are string instruments which I love x)

[@mizomisosoup6603]

Can't wait for the others! Gigi's versions of 'Done For' and 'There are Other Ways' are amazing ❤

[@alligaytor4253]

I LOVE gigi’s ‘There are Other Ways’, so good fr

[@SilverGallowglass]

I love both gigi and Ani's! Circe brought out good things in our artist friends

[@liminalpsych]

Yaaay I've been looking forward to your reaction to Circe!!

[@audreyii6750]

Im pretty sure the opening chords are a somber/minor key(??) version of "Polites gear up, you & I'll go ahead, we should try to find a way no one ends up dead" Which is super fitting because _last_ time Odysseus felt down, Polites was there to tell him everything would be okay (in "Open Arms") while this time there's no one to ask how Odysseus is doing AND they failed (to find a way no one ends up dead) Also, at the end of "Full Speed Ahead" Polites follows Odysseus onto the lotus eater island _This_ time, when Odysseus says " _We_ have to save them" he ends up going alone

[@Silokkes]

I'm fairly confident that the melody in the beginning before eurlyochus sings is the same melody when body sings "we should try to find a way no one ends up dead" in full speed ahead.

[@Bluesh4d00w]

13:15 It is also said that Circe transformed them into pigs because for them the issue of being host and guest is something sacred and the men of Odysseus probably exceeded either in manners or some attitude against the nymphs, which Circe being the hostess and who was doing a favor by giving them food and seeing how they "repaid" it with those lack of education and punished them. That's why in that part he mentions that it is a way to pay and forgive his mistakes.

[@aerynlamar1347]

Many of us interpret Eurylochus in this song as being under Circe's enchantment after he returns to Odysseus. I won't say anything about why she might want them gone. But my thought process is that if no one returned at all, Ody would have definitely come looking for them - giving her more intruders to deal with. But if one man could be filled with enough fear to convince any others to flee, they wouldn't be her problem anymore. I don't think Jorge has confirmed whether Eury is actually being "puppeteered" during that conversation though.

[@elieli2893]

My interpretation is just that Eury witnessed a bunch of guys turn to pigs, and decided that nope, better some than all of them, we're outta here :'D I mean, *he* doesn't know if there's anyone to even save, if it's possible to turn them back or if their memories and humanhood will still be intact. I think it's a rational choice to go "we're not going to risk all of our lives to find out the others were already goners, anyway" 🤷‍♂

[@GusTaJooJ_OFC]

​@@elieli2893 Like some have said, eury in Epic is a pessimistic realist

[@Dionaerys]

Honestly there's no need for him to be enchanted to want to get the fuck out of dodge. There's no reason to believe a rescue mission has any chance of success, given how easily he witnessed Circe turn men into pigs.

[@beeshark222]

While I can see it, Eurylochus is already demonstrated to be a coward (“captain, please!” “WAIT.” In remember them)

[@dragansnyder2786]

Also since they really don't bring it up in the musical, the crew members might have gotten a little rowdy which gave her enough reason to do what she did (meaning they might have gotten a little handsy, but my only real evidence for them misbehaving was the fact that one of the men got drunk and fell off the roof of cersei's Palace, so obviously they weren't completely tame/

[@MJAnonymous6003]

I think Jorge has changed the story of Circe. It's been a while since I last looked into it, but I believe originally Circe turned Odysseus' men into pigs because they had been harassing her and her nymphs.

[@KysNow-o4f]

The next saga is gonna come out before you even reach the underworld saga 💀

[@Tomisgivingoutfreeturkey]

Ong😭😭😭 ig we have to waiit until we're "in the underworld"

[@SauceyRedHN]

The next song is one of my favorites of the musical, it's such a bop! Super excited!

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

Really enjoyed it ☺️

[@SauceyRedHN]

I'm a dumbass, meant Done For, not Wouldn't You Like (though that one's also a banger).

[@YSAn-e3f]

I didn't realise until you noted the piano at the start that the chords are the same as luck runs out!!! There's always something new to find in this musical. Also, the notes at the very start are same to the part of Full Speed Ahead where Odysseus sings "Polites gear up you and I will go ahead, we should try to find a way no one ends up dead". I see that as Odysseus grieving over Polites and feeling overwhelmed with guilt that he wasn't able to ensure no one ends up dead.

[@colt1903]

Whether it's Pinocchio or Spirited Away, people getting forcibly turned into animals will never not be disturbing as hell.😨😂

[@hannahwilson6778]

MY FAVE SAGA!!!! I CAN NOT WAIT FOR YOU TO LISTEN TO IT ALL!!!!

[@bsherrod4912]

Circe saga is my favorite saga and you’ve done it justice so far! Very enjoyable reaction!

[@MrSlothJunior]

10:34 I always thought they sang a soft "men", and now you've broken the illusion. 😅 I found it super fitting, as they're supposed to be swayed and tricked because they're men.

[@FateTheArcher]

Holy shit ive never noticed that motif you called out at the beginning. Pretty sure thats an even slower version of the "waiting" motif that you start hearing a lot after the Underworld Saga.... I have listened to this song so many times and never noticed that. Im crying now because the character it represents in the actual Mythology actually died right after the storm carried Odysseus and his fleet away from Ithaca. Meaning that motif is probably playing here because this song is when that character died in the musical. JORGE WHEN I CATCH YOU JORGE

[@sureindubitably3771]

Fun fact: It was theorized Eurylochus was about to tell Ody that he opened the bag that is why he has the more harmonized lyrics in the beginning to show weakness and when Odysseus shot him down he returned to his stoic and soldier self

[@PrevGamingFacility]

So excited for you to see this saga Especially Hermes i am so excited for you to react to him 🤭

[@johnpittsii7524]

Hi Jennifer hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤

[@michaelbarnes5223]

"Oh my god, its been a whirlwind" After the last saga, ma'am, I'd call that an understatement.

[@jade-ny8dn]

still watching as i say this, but 10:55 when she sung was SO smooth and pretty. love the reactions and our vocal coach's voice!!

[@rhov-anion]

You may be our Athena, but your voice would really fit Circe. Not only the accent, but the timbre and the clarity you both have.

[@SauceyRedHN]

One of my favorite sagas!

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

Yay! 😁

[@aaronbard3341]

I need this song to be covered by you, mortius, and casper. I would watch that 24/7 for the rest of my years!

[@leadingblind1629]

80% of reactors think it says Circle Saga. So you're still doing better than them lol

[@mateo-482]

How the hell?

[@driananium]

I hope hope hope we can get a Circe cover from you

[@nicholasmcmahan-watson9405]

The Pinocchio island with the donkeys was based on Circe's island

[@3rdtimesthecharm376]

I won't spoil it, but considering the reason for Circe's disdain for men is never blatantly explained, its fair you get a hint: Circe is extremely protective of her Nymph. She will not let them comr to harm- never again.

[@airiatasui8591]

Im always surprised by how few people hear Full Speed Ahead in the strings at the start of this.

[@Bluefirerod]

The thing that Eurelichus wanted to tell Odysseus will be a key pice in the thunder saga

[@Thatonebloowitch]

Oh! i do hope she reacts to gigi again for "there are other ways"!

[@RatatoskClarke]

Of course the pronunciation of Circe is 100% modernized and there's so many variations of Greek pronunciations so you're totally fine, BUT just as a fun fact, in Ancient Greece there were no "C" pronunciations! They would all be pronounced as "K"! So "Circe" would actually be "Kirke" !!! just a fun little tidbit.

[@RatatoskClarke]

Same with how people pronounce it Cerberus, when it would actually be Kerberus.

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

Oooh that’s such a fun fact!

[@tricerotopic9740]

10:33 did you happen to notice what she brought them to eat?

[@razependragon7472]

Thx for the reaction

[@siefnour1017]

WOOOOOO LETS GOOOO

[@ShyyGaladriel]

My sister loves the Circe saga the most. It’s her favorite while I prefer the thunder saga.

[@SpooookyKitty]

FINALLY SOMEBODY OTHER THAN ME NOTICED THAT CIRCE IS BRITISH

[@CFEntertains]

you are still Athena to me, even w the accent jengem

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

Hahah! I’ll take it😁

[@issackoi]

FINALLY AFTER 2 WEEKS GEEZ

[@AzterZU]

Not so fun fact: At the beginning of the song, one of the instruments plays like one of Odysseus lines in Full Speed Ahead You can hear it in this video at 3:05 and 4:30, the line it plays is "We should try to find a way no one ends up dead" 😢

[@benjamins.5428]

Hey. August 16th is the anniversary of the Elvis the king's death, so if you could do a reaction video on one of his songs please ❤

[@DnDAddictUK]

soo.... when are we getting a Jen cover of this one then?

[@Rcmkney23]

If u make us wait that long again for the next song i will come to ur house and hide all ur left socks and phone chargers

[@JenniferGlatzhofer]

😂

[@leadingblind1629]

Can I help? I'll buy you pizza 😂

[@leolen8029]

You can do better than that! Mess with the toaster so one side is less than the other.

[@oceanapearl3503]

Circeeee

[@azs535]

HERMES NEXT!!!!HERMES NEXT!!!!HERMES NEXT!!!!HERMES NEXT!!!! YEAAH!!!!

[@joesplace2960]

Wouldn’t you like that?

[@kekecs8646]

Day 2 of asking for Tim Foust: Can't Help Falling In Love reaction

[@Gergei-xi1bs]

Please listen to,, Quiet outpost "by Diana Ankudinova or amazing duet Diana &Brendon Stone,, the day you... "

[@LizaaFernando]

4:27 in here instead of a slowed Danger motif, I hear a slowed luck runs out tune

[@ControversialOpinionGuy]

The woman!

[@AndresSantosRivera]

Could you please watch the Crashite Animatic for the next song wouldn't you like, it's so good ❤

[@TheLivingProphetJ]

They're already recorded, so she already chose, but either way it'd be great

[@AndresSantosRivera]

@@TheLivingProphetJ 😭

[@TheLivingProphetJ]

@@AndresSantosRivera honestly, I love the Ximena Natzel one, due to the fact Hermes is just flirting with Ody

[@Archangel1862]

If I remember correctly in one Greek Myth women are considered curses upon men

[@sunnysunsins]

Hey, Circ saga is still better than Wet Hades *shrug*

[@siefnour1017]

Witch Hades

[@MyCreativeArsenal]

Circe, turns the men to pigs for literally just showing up, Jennifer, Yaaas! You go girl! 😂😂 Also, no spoilers, (but if you know you know) I just noticed that those first notes in the beginning are from a song in the wisdom saga! Great foreshadowing Jorge!

[@jennifermk4059]

I think those notes are also in "Full Speed Ahead" from the Troy Saga! "And Ithaca's waiting / My kingdom is waiting / Penelope's waiting for me."

[@ClawedAsh]

Actually, those notes are from Full Speed Ahead, specifically the lyrics "Polities gear up, you and I'll go ahead, we should try to find a way no one ends up dead" The song you're thinking of is actually also referencing Full Speed Ahead in that moment

[@MyCreativeArsenal]

Wow! I didn't realize it was in Full Spead Ahead, I always feel so dumb for not recognizing these things sooner, lol.😂 Thanks for the info! Slight spoilers, (Tama) has a great animatic, for a snippet of the song Legendary by Telemacus (which is in the upcoming Wisdom saga) That, melody? (I'm not musically inclined, I don't know the right terms lol) is also in that song. Which actually parallels Odysseus at that point and in Puppeteer so well it's crazy!

[@jennifermk4059]

@@ClawedAsh That's it! "And Ithca's waiting / My kingdom is waiting," still fits, too, but the Penelope line diverges.

[@Tumanakoking]

Don’t do Gigi video next they do a great video of it but it doesn’t really have the full song you should do done for and other ways by Anniflamma please 🙏 🙏 🙏 (also I love Gigi but I need please to understand the full song and story)

[@TheLivingProphetJ]

Circe and her Nymphs have to eat, so she turned them to pigs for later

[@Gladissims]

That's one interpretation. Another, that I personally prefer, is that it tends to be pretty unsafe for a bunch of young and beautiful women (Circe and her nymphs) to be alone on an island with a group of strange men. There are so many stories of nymphs in particular being taken advantage of, sometimes against their will, that I can't really blame Circe for turning the men into pigs to prevent that sort of thing from happening. She even alludes to them having "faced a heavy loss" last time they showed hospitality... But yeah they probably eat them too.

[@TheLivingProphetJ]

@@Gladissims I honestly agree with you

[@zexalplays]

Not the worst pronunciation of circe I've heard another you hear alot is Circle And Sir-kay

[@user-vc5rp7nf8f]

you look nice

[@kennethmorgan8795]

So at the end of this saga I will likely have another 'big' comment, I won't say why because possible spoilers in the why. I (most of us...) am of the opinion that Eurylochus either opened the bag or chose to not stop the ones who did in Jorge's story. Ody's dead pan "*What?*" is pure gold. Same with his "damn" honestly. Oh! Fun Fact time! In the Odyssey Polites is still alive here... and is one of the first to enter Circe's home. What happened? About 560 men died in an instant.

[@agent941]

hmmmm… i wonder why a beaytiful woman would see men as pigs… 😰