NYCTA/MTAB: 2006-07 Daimler Chrysler Orion 07.501 HEV Gen +II Review

[@javie1988]

“Aww lga depot”

[@offstagemeteor3461]

Hahaaa

[@NeilQVLGA6455]

Good review and thanks for using my clip of 6627!

[@patrykgoanimate]

3:46 4:03 Ugh Laguardia Depot

[@EnderMasterTM]

Another great video done by kal-el!

[@NeilQVLGA6455]

I remember when I was 2, I caught 3563 on the Q60 from when it was a Hybrid unit! And yes it had a blackback and 3563 was the first EVER 4 digit number I could remember!

[@NeilQVLGA6455]

@@javie2064 I wish I did 4 digit equations in math again

[@onlyinnewyork7103]

@@javie2064 ive seen it on the Q35 and some other routes but with a white back i havent seen a black back since 2017 when thw hybrids were taken off the Q111,113,and 114

[@Di_D3M0N]

@@onlyinnewyork7103 I loved the old gens on the 113 those busses hauled ass on Rockaway Boulevard

[@coffinpainflam1818]

hey kai the busses that are numbered 3500-3783 are one of 2 kinds of busses that i use to get to school everyday and in another area i see them all the time where my family go shopping often there and the route i use is Q7 The otheres are Q8, Q9, Q112, Q41, Q37, Q40 and thats all the routes i see this bus use

[@trainaitman126jr8]

Man time flys when the 2005/6 buses

[@javie1988]

Finally I’ve been waiting for this review

[@kalelc1996]

Thanks you guys! I'm glad you enjoyed the review! It sure feels great to be back!

[@kalelc1996]

@@thesafetycat8868 How?

[@DannyLok2812]

Do any more of the Old Gens have the black back scheme

[@kalelc1996]

@@DannyLok2812 no they were all repainted a while ago

[@DannyLok2812]

@@kalelc1996 okay just wondering

[@DannyLok2812]

@@kalelc1996 okay But I agree that they look better with the black back scheme

[@sarendobson3507]

Does the 2006 f700gs they're heavier they must behavior and they feel more solid King knock

[@sarendobson3507]

That's messed up they need to convert them to fake diesel King knock

[@KSAPCreator]

MTA Bus units shown between 0:00-1:38 status as of 3/20/2024 even tho nobody asked (update, 4/20/24, they are all retired, 3563 is the one being preserved) 3661 retired 3749 retired sometime in mid-April 2023 3500 retired (ex-zerega, now in ech scrap) 3563 retired 3652 retired (3 OGS LEFT IN THE MTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CATCH THEM NOW!!!!!!) i really hope they preserve 3500 as it was the 1st bus to be delivered to the NEW MTA Bus (nope, its scrap metal now)

[@kalelc1996]

Thanks for the updated info unfortunately the Orion era is coming to a close it's unknown if they'll preserve an Old Gen or New Gen most likely they won't knowing how unpredictable the TA is so we just have to stand aside and watch

[@Unkn0wn5-q2f]

@@kalelc1996now all 2002-2007 Orion VII Hybrid’s are dead.

[@sarendobson3507]

All right my boys back thank God cuz you know you talked about

[@joshmasterproductions9066]

Nice Review As Always 👍 thanks for featuring me as part of your review

[@kalelc1996]

Anytime

[@christianluyando883]

That was a lie and they used to be at Spring Creek Depot but not anymore right now they’re saying to not other than JFK Depot, Baisley Park Depot, and AWW, Laguardia Depot!

[@christianluyando883]

@@kalelc1996 It was the hybrid Orion seven that was in Spring Creek Depot not the diesel. Fresh Pond Depot in East New York depot remove them during the pandemic.

[@R.A.-X65]

Sweet Review Kal!

[@javie1988]

3563 doesn’t have that thing on top and usually all Orion 7s have it so what’s up with that?

[@oeleyinafe]

It came from a test to see whether it was feasible to convert the rest of the buses to diesel.

[@javie1988]

Oh thx for the help

[@oeleyinafe]

Hi Kal-El! I've always loved watching your critiques regarding buses. It was one of the first buses that I rode on when I began High School in Taft (the other being the Daimler Chrysler Orion VII Compressed Natural Gas buses Parts 1 and 2). At the time, the 32 came out of 146 (MCH) before it came out of 10th Avenue (KB) and then the Coliseum (WF). I also rode on 3782 that came from Jamaica Buses and 3737 from Triboro Coach that ran on an Express Subway Shuttle to East 180. They have been a better fleet for the New York City Transit Authority and the Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority. Just continue to put videos out there.

[@maxwish9471]

Why did MTA Bus Company last longer with these, than New York City Transit? The 2023-24 LFS fleet is coming into Far Rockaway/JFK fast, and is already full at Baisley Park. What will happen to 3594 and 3736 very soon? Why was the replacement multiple Next Gens?

[@stillnitro]

What's the background music? Also great review bro👌👌

[@freddyc.brownjr7545]

I Remember When The Orion 7s Came Out In 2002 They Use To Express At One Point If I Am Not Mistaken

[@zeideankrah8370]

Great job kal el with the video

[@transitgamerjayjay3704]

I grew up with these with the 2007 units on the Q22

[@DannyLok2812]

Were all of the Orion 7 Old Gens delivered with the black back scheme?

[@dodge1515]

Yes, they were. The OG O7s were the last new buses to come with blackbacks, starting with the O7 NGs, everything went whiteback until the cuomo era a few years ago.

[@trilliumtransit89]

Very strange how MTA and TTC OG HEVs use the same powertrain but ours up here in Toronto sound so much better

[@Bp_3775]

Music?

[@kalelc1996]

Symbolism II by Electro-Light

[@Ihonestlydek]

There are only a few of them left and are mostly at far rockaway… im gonna miss these OGs alot even tho i no longer live in NYC… this ends the 2000 buses era for the buses i guess till the ngs leave

[@AutomotiveTaurus]

Wow, where's my vids ? Anyways, these are what I call the "Grand Orion VII OGs". Though they are not as potential as the older Gen 2s, the 2004-05 units(except a little less of emissions I appreciate), I still love those and even they are mostly the king of MTA BC. #3563(diesel converted) has officially crashed into Spring Creek, besides it's time of being a loan to that. depot. Speaking of the "last to feature slant windows", these along with the olders, are not as best as the NG HEVs(your worst favs) by design. I recently pulled out #6800 and sent it to Canarsie Rockaway-Parkway terminal. That unit sounds vitrolicly good. I have yet to catch #3563 on the B103. So far, great review.

[@kalelc1996]

Next review 😂 sorry

[@AutomotiveTaurus]

@@kalelc1996 IK, it's not on purpose. But maybe you can do an Orion VII NG HEV review next ? Or how about what you do in 2016. You made a slideshow video of the incoming reviews, can you do that ?

[@kalelc1996]

@@AutomotiveTaurus Yeah

[@rameaunscott2281]

Hey Kal-El when will u be able to do a review on MTA and NYCT MCI coach buses!! I’m assuming MTA always had 45 ft coaches but would love to see do a review on them

[@javie1988]

Why do I miss everything on transit?

[@ilovebusesandtrains7777]

Why do the Orion buses have a slanted left window

[@kalelc1996]

To reduce glare from the sunlight

[@dodge1515]

That ended after 2007.

[@dev_nyc23]

3:47 4:04 Aww LGA depot

[@42luke93]

I can only imagine what it would be like if it were high floor.

[@onlyinnewyork7103]

Ive seen the All diesel ones before on the Q35 and Q54or56 it was cool

[@luiszeferino1999]

Nice Review Kal-El, I Enjoyed It

[@kalelc1996]

Thank you. It feels great to be back

[@luiszeferino1999]

Kal-El You Welcome

[@DannyLok2812]

Excuse me Kal-El didn’t Queens Village get any of these Orion 7 Old Gens?

[@kalelc1996]

They did but now they're retired

[@DannyLok2812]

@@kalelc1996 I know it’s really sad to see them go especially since I have never rode one

[@DannyLok2812]

@@kalelc1996 although it was kinda surprising that Queens Village had 50

[@kalelc1996]

@@DannyLok2812 same

[@DannyLok2812]

@@kalelc1996 although it was also surprising that ManhattanVille depot had over 100 Next Gens before February

[@Bobby_9538]

i rode so many of these low floors on q54 q88 q46

[@Trxustze]

15:30 They aren't even that bad 😂

[@WestchesterXBeeline]

“In my personal opinion”

[@onlyinnewyork7103]

15:40 Bruv the Ogs are better but i cant let you bag on the Ngs there very similar and better than the og cngs

[@EthanF175]

my fav bus after the rts nova bus :)

[@javie1988]

These buses had a huge impact on my childhood,my dad works for Casey Stengel depot and as you all know Casey Stengel formerly had these old gens.Ive rode these buses so long that I have to say they are part of my childhood.but when Casey Stengel gave there buses to queens village depot I was like:aaaaaaaaaa wtf Casey Stengel?i mean their maintainece is shit and also why would you give them away?those are the best!yup broke my heart anyways nice review!

[@onlyinnewyork7103]

Lol i live a 5 minute walk from Queens Village yard. Its cause the hybrids grew problems due to age on the 2002-2003 models (green led)

[@savionmjallyeiither42luvr]

There’s only 3 left now 😢

[@kalelc1996]

Now there's none

[@centralvirginiabuses7710]

It's very sad that they is not retired but not mta tho tip the Orion vii hev for mta nyct

[@Ihonestlydek]

Best NYC bus along with the og cngs and 2002-2005 og hybrids period. Their design is amazing, their sounds are amazing, its just perfect. The cng has that iconic roar, the engine sounds way better inside the bus too, allison has the best roar while the Ecomat the best sounds inside the bus for both the transmission and engine. The og hybrids, are the definition of diesel-electric buses, because you can hear both diesel and hybrid sound on them. (1st gen hybrid has a more active diesel sound, the 2g and 2g+ is a mix of both) the hybrids sound awesome, especially inside the bus. Im not a fan of the straight diesel tho because one: i never grew up seeing or riding them and two they sound typical and don’t sound as good as the hybrids and three, they look bizarre with that weird top

[@transitgamerjayjay3704]

REMINDER!!! 3563 IS RETIRE FROM TRANSMISSION ISSUES

[@onlyinnewyork7103]

We know and i miss it

[@edwqdd2914]

"UGH! LaGurdia Depot!"

[@cashboii1806]

Mta bus company takes better care in those old gens because some I see on eny or fresh pond they usually have tape but mta bus company does not have tape

[@knightclassic1]

I love these but except these replaced the rest of GMC RTSes and some 1987 TMCs

[@dodge1515]

They replaced all the remaining 1987 TMC RTS 06s. None of those made it to 2006 (except for those that got transferred to MTA bus).

[@dvnrhillary]

As I usually ride these low-floored Orion buses during the previous decade, the only thing I hated and couldn't stand most times was the loud kneeling sound as they kneel - they were, to me, in my owns thoughts, irritatingly and annoyingly lousy, awful, and unpleasant! The same thing goes for the Westchester Beeline Bus Company. But, Thanks be to God, both New York City Transit and MTA took care of those kneeling sounds, which has been sounding better for being quiet and less irritating to me, during the later years!

[@Nick-pm6vs]

You weren't the only one. I also hated those loud kneeling noises.

[@tinsoilboi6654]

“Two thousan sevn”

[@hectorhardy1942]

like bus

[@edwqdd2914]

excuse me, but 6666 is an 2004-05 model, BUT you dont have to fix it now

[@dodge1515]

No, 2005-2006 model.

[@KSAPCreator]

its a 2005 model

[@TheMrOct]

I had the privilege of driving them

[@xaviergaming2206]

You forgot MJQ Depot

[@kalelc1996]

They didn't get them first hand

[@thesafetycat8868]

Why’d you moan when you said “auaahhghh LaGuardia depot”

[@sonofevil2009]

The safety cat long story

[@Vxllain]

First

[@Vxllain]

also amazing review

[@sarendobson3507]

The 2007 and 6th and Ryan better catch up there about to start scrapping them they be replaced with the new stuff is coming in as of buses that different but use I also talked to take it over

[@chillboi4171]

4:03 AYOOOOO