'Member Berries Saved the Universe! - Doctor Who Season 1 Eps 8 Reaction

Jay and Adam react, review, riff, and rate the finale of Season 1 of Doctor Who.
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[@scotthewitt258]

"I have to believe the birds WILL sing again." That is a great line.

[@theblurredlights]

I wonder if it’s a wink and a nod to Endgame too, when the first thing we hear after the Hulk Snap was birds singing. As if RTD was already anticipating people connecting the dustification to the Thanos Snap.

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

I got so giddy when I saw the "remembered TARDIS." That's the set they used for the Tales of the TARDIS mini-episodes that were only (legally) available in the UK.

[@fayesouthall6604]

That’s right. Small but mighty.

[@marshsundeen]

Those outside the UK, find that it sucks they did not make it available to everyone.

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

@@marshsundeen I know, I'm one of them. But life, and the Internet, finds a way.

[@keatsmeister]

Interesting on the Jack Harkness thing. The implication is that Sutekh, the God of Death was clinging to the Tardis at the same time as the immortal Jack Harkness was doing the same. Something to think about

[@AmazingChi]

TARDIS on Sutekh: Sure, come on in! TARDIS on Jack: GET OFF GET OFF GET OFF

[@shanajeangedeon9060]

​@@AmazingChiTbh, it took thousands of years for Sutekh to breakdown the TARDIS enough to control it; Jack was only really on it for a few minutes, maybe a few hours at most.

[@AlicesOdyssey]

Ngl I bet that pissed Sutekh off sharing his perch with an immortal

[@1938superman]

17:39 Ruby is not done. They've already confirmed Millie Gibson for next season. But Varada Sethu (from "Boom" this season and from "Andor") will also be joining as another companion.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

Yes, they planned the first two seasons out, so stuff will connect.

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

There's a _lot_ of rumors floating around and it's been hard to peg down. She's done as a series regular after this season. It currently sounds like she'll be in one or two more episodes next season.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Saw a clip of her in the next season .. it was on the behind the scenes show. She was badass good.

[@1938superman]

@@TheFiddleFaddle I agree, but I've seen recent things that confirm it for certain. Ruby may only be there for an episode or two, but she will be there. Confirmed it in an article in the Radio Times. An interview with Varada Sethu about being confirmed as the new companion. Even a direct video confirmation from RTD about season 2 that they will both be in the Tardis with the Doctor. Here's that clip. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYKTfHuYnZ1oaZI

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

@@1938superman It's definitely confirmed she'll return, but it seems not as a regular companion. More of a guest star.

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

Man, the moment I saw the thumbnail, I was like "Oh man Adam's gonna hate that they Last Jedi'd it." 😂😂😂

[@SpiralTheFirst]

As someone who doesn’t remember the last Jedi in any way, what does that mean?

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

@@SpiralTheFirst Abrams made a big deal out of the mystery of Rey's parentage, people got stupid obsessed over it, and then in The Last Jedi it's revealed her parents are nothing special.

[@kronos7110]

@@TheFiddleFaddle I mean, DW did it better, but still.

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

@@kronos7110 Yes but also anything that alludes to that movie makes Adam ragey 😂

[@bligemonk2283]

The more Jay says he isn't my mom, the more I'm becoming sure that he is!

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

The lesson of this episode is the more belief we put into that, the more it becomes true!

[@redcurrantart]

Jay should just adopt all of us and be done with it.

[@mauralee9987]

@@redcurrantart agreed!

[@Jeffjway]

I think Ruby's mother is important in the same way as the leaf in Rings of Akhathen. Imagined potential

[@FromRussiaWithLuv007]

Think about it. To you, the day M. bison visited your village was the most important day of your life. For M. Bison, it was a Tuesday. (They didn’t need the road sign but)

[@Bhrymm]

Everything this season has focused on stories. The ones we make up to explain what's going on around us and sometimes blind us to the reality that is happening. Space Babies: a "monster" was made to fit the story and was a danger while trying to save the station. Devil's Chord: The belief the world "grew up" and didn't need music no matter what was in their hearts Boom: They're at war with an enemy not realizing it's their own equipment causing their casualties 73 yards: The mysterious woman is a threat and has to be feared. Dot and Bubble: Everything is fine, ignore the lesser people telling you you're in danger Rogue: Rogue is sure there is one shape shifter and that's the Doctor The Legend of Ruby Sunday: Susan Triad is the Doctor's granddaughter and is the key, oops, wrong anagram. Empire of Death: Ruby's mom is super important and is a threat to Sutehk In every case, the way things seem distract people from the actual danger. Also, that Christmas on Ruby Road is a fragile point in time. Between the goblin incursion, the Doctor taking the Tardis there, and then Sutekh taking the Tardis there again it allowed Ruby to link back to that point in her own timeline. Whenever she was thinking hard about it, whenever she was feeling abandonment. Now remember back in the season 3 finale.(Tenth, Martha, The Master) Psychic energy focused on the Doctor briefly gave him godlike power. I feel that all the people focusing on Ruby's mom one that night was focusing psychic energy on her. She didn't know that though. She was just a scared 15 year old girl, terrified about what would happen if someone saw her and her stepdad found out. Focused on getting her baby somewhere safe and staying hidden. With the psychic energy of a god flowing into her. The more Sutekh strained to find her, the harder she was to find.

[@blakereed92]

The Doctor accidentally introduced supernatural elements into the known universe. The mystery of Ruby's mother became much larger and more powerful than it would've been otherwise. Because it's a story. The story of a girl left at the steps of a church on Christmas Eve who traveled with a man through time and space to find her mother.

[@dayanna901]

That's a nice way to read it, I appreciate it. Honestly, I was not thrilled by the finale, but I'm willing to give RTD the benefit of the doubt after he said Ruby called her birth mom "her real mom" as a mistake (of hers and not of his) because she has a lot to figure out about herself and her family at that moment and was not thinking straight.

[@Fowlplay141]

Yeah, It's like what the doctor said, every war, religion, love story etc. all happen because we think something is important enough to fight over, to worship, or to love for. It doesn't really matter whether or not in the grand scheme of things if it really was important, just that everyone thinks it was.

[@nny2dope]

Flood wearing Clara's final outfit & calling the Doctor a Clever Boy is super sus

[@GrandiaKnight]

At the end she's dressed as Romana who was one of Tom Bakers companions

[@nny2dope]

@@GrandiaKnight Yeah, watch her be Osgood cosplaying again

[@poppy7599]

The two former companion outfits! Any idea if she wore more?

[@goldencherry9033]

I couldn’t shake the East 17 look🤣

[@RedCaio]

​@@poppy7599 I saw some people saying she wore a Rory outfit too at some point

[@reinrose82]

Remember when the trailer came out and he said he’d keep Ruby safe and we all kinda went 😝’yeah right Doc we’ve seen this show’ But he kept his promise. I’m pretty okay with that. We could use more hope doctor right now. Cheers

[@AlexanderWandering]

Kate dies: NOOOOOOO Carla dies: yay! (because now we know they'll reverse it, lol)

[@HiGhWaYmAn4.2.0]

Now remember... There's still a good 50% chance Mrs Flood is infact just an auld woman. I refuse to duped again 😂

[@IceMetalPunk]

"Why did you think she was special?" "Because of everything she said..." "Oh, that was just metaphor and a bit of fun." "But she spoke to the camera!" "What, we can't be a bit cheeky sometimes?" "So... she's no one?" "Everyone is someone, that's the point." "...respectfully, Russel, fuck off."

[@HiGhWaYmAn4.2.0]

@@IceMetalPunk 😂

[@CEORaithSienar]

Call back to 11 with Ruby's mom. 11 told someone "I've never met someone who wasn't important."

[@marshsundeen]

The Remember TARDIS was featured in Tales of the Tardis. It was mainly shown in Britain only.

[@MarianDalton]

The cloak Mrs Flood wears at the end is the same one worn by Romana (back in Tom Baker days) before she regenerated. Also, when the Doctor and Ruby talk at the end, the Doctor is fiddling with the ring Rogue gave him.

[@Luna-zw6te]

Do you believe in the power of prayer? Then tell you tell your Maker to like and subscribe and hit that bell, and that guacamole is extra, you fifth dimensional beings you😌i have such plans….

[@fxbear]

I have a sassy little robot named luna, though she spells it Loona. She got mad at a box I left on the floor. Backed up to get a running start and shoved it the hell out of her way. I spewed my morning orange juice over that one.

[@xdecroix]

Jay's so emotional since he reproduced. I love it.

[@Midnight_7567]

I really like what they did, because they practically built a whole myth around her mom which made her important, God's are part of myths themselves they have their involvements in them like stories of what they did and who they are and in this new era of Doctor Who where superstition and myths are running rampantly all around now with the Doctor having fought gods of the pantheon three times in a row now which building up someones story surrounding a person in that way while it might feel "Disappointing" because she's nobody, she isn't... Nobody necessarily at all, she's ruby's mother, she brought her into this world and she's important for doing that, as our own mothers are important to us for bringing us into the world. That and RTD came out and public said he really enjoyed what the Last Jedi was trying to set up about Rey

[@GoofyGE3K]

Id like to think Sutekh being on the Tardis and witnessing the mystery of Ruby Sundays mother is what elevated her to being so important. Surekh willed if by accident. But that doesn't explain the snow!

[@grump9001]

I think they didn't quite hit some points that would've helped to understand the whole thing- that the Time Window is what caused the snow to go back in time around Ruby, as it happened everytime she thought of her mother or abandonment, as well as when Maestro forced it out of her. They mentioned the oldest one, and I think that was alluding to Sutekh. Then, within the Time Window, her mother seems to almost interact with them as Ruby cries out for her over and over. She turns, and points at the sign, and I think that was meant to be a psychic link sending that message back in time to make it happen. They really didn't explain this enough, and this is only my idea of it, might not even be right. However, as a mother, I do really appreciate that in the end the most powerful being in the world was a 15 year old girl making an extremely courageous decision to give up her baby for her safety. Such an awful, traumatic, but inspiring, and yet everyday situation. This happens everyday around the world, of course. But its one of the ultimate human acts of love. I think after the aliens and sci-fi fun that Doctor Who is about humanity, and so this makes complete sense to me. I dislike the people playing this down that the reveal was 'nothing' ... I think it was powerful. Unfortunately RTD didn't quite stick the landing to fully show or say that in the episode. Just saying 'she's important because we think she is' .. was too simplistic, and it really needed to focus more on this human act of love.

[@SteveODonnell]

Not clicked a video so fast in my life. I knew her being ordinary would confuddle you. I also was like Jay when Ruby met her mum. I am an adoptee myself so that moment b4ought back all the feels i had that day. Also we havent seen the last of Ruby.

[@MeleeHellBot]

The snow kept happening because of the Tardis perception filter. That day on ruby road was a fixed point and therefore very delicate so ruby trying her best to remember that day with the very grainy VHS tape is why snow kept happening. Its not too different from Rose becoming the Bad Wolf and sending the words through time and space to bring her to that moment.

[@MajorKerina]

That makes sense but I wish they would've made it more explicit or clear

[@kronos7110]

@@MajorKerina But that would be telling, not showing.

[@andrewmathewson341]

@@kronos7110 And how many people watching actually got that? This is legit the first time I've seen this answer for the snow and I've been hanging around the subreddit for Dr Who since the finale to see other people's complaints. There is such a thing as "too smart an idea" when it comes to the audience.

[@Drakoni23]

I loved the mom reveal. Are some of the setups a bit too much for it, maybe? But "everyone is important" is a message that keeps coming up in Doctor Who. Even earlier this season there was talk about faith in Boom. At the start I went in hoping that the mom wouldn't be some god or time lord a relative of the doctor or Ruby herself, or whatever theory there was in the early episodes. The only thing that didn't work for me was the pointing for the name, the memory changing. Take that away I really like where they went with it and the season as a whole. Still wish there were 1-2 more "normal" episodes, mostly because I just really like the two together. Give us more!

[@sorenfarley]

Makes sense to me, Doctor arrived in front of her, so she had someone who would see her point at the sign, and that's why the memory changed, time changed.

[@kingkelevra4545]

I had so much fun with this season, I can’t wait for this Christmas!

[@axelignis3488]

I really hope they make the next episode soon But i kinda slowly grew to understand the whole power of importance, since like it wasn't just the people who gave this lady such high importance, but in a way sutek as well, so in turn his power was in ruby to keep her alive, so that he can finally learn who this woman was, which would explain maestro freaking out about the power she had, she compared it to the one who waits, cause he was there, and ruby is the only way he'd learn who the mysterious mother is

[@scotthewitt258]

We have {maybe} already met the next Companion. She is being played by the actor who played Anglican Marine Mundy in "Boom!" But, I haven't seen anyone confirm if she is playing Mundy, or a new character.

[@darkphoenix6807]

I agree with Adam’s face. That explanation of Ruby’s mother and also why she pointed doesn’t make a lick of sense! I think more will come out next season.

[@jphaggerty9046]

I loved this finale, and the closure on Ruby's mother was, for me anyway, pitch perfect. Ruby had spent so long looking for the truth and in doing so had evolved a myth around her own birth, a myth that confused and terrified the Gods of Chaos themselves. And yet, in the end, the answer lay in a scared 15 year old: an ordinary person enacting an extraordinary act of kindness for her baby daughter. That's Doctor Who. I know a lot of people have felt let down by this episode, though, and that's valid. But I do also think that this disappointment stems from a belief that the mystery was intended to serve a different purpose within the narrative than the one it actually does, and that's left people feeling frustrated at the series as a whole for not delivering a satisfying ending. The point of the mystery was never about the identity of Ruby's mother. It was about Ruby creating her own story - a legend of sorts - and the power that came from that; an otherwise ordinary event became mired in crossed timelines, imbued with the magic of goblins and ancient gods and became a creation myth - a myth that challenged the God of Death himself. The snow and Christmas carol were parts of this myth, too. Both were aspects of that one night that became Ruby's memories, eventually bleeding through into reality thanks to the lingering effects of the Toymaker. Overall, a fantastic finale that more than sticks the landing from a thematic perspective. A solid 8/10.

[@chikzdigmohawkz]

It's a fairly common trope in fantasy that what gives a god power is belief. With the way RTD seems to be integrating mythology into this variation of the show, Ruby's mom being important because the characters *believed* she was important fits right into that. (Not to mention, RTD's used this trope before with Martha walking the Earth to spread belief in the Doctor.) ...that said - it was full summer during the episode, yet snowing during Mrs. Flood's speech, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Ruby back again.

[@IceMetalPunk]

But nearly *everyone* has someone who believes they're important. If that's how it worked, everyone would be important/special in the same way; but only Ruby and her mom seem to be. That's the problem with the explanation: if you say "anyone's belief is enough", then you can't single out just the main characters' belief in a world where no one else's seems to matter as much.

[@chikzdigmohawkz]

@@IceMetalPunk I'd say there's a pretty big difference between 'someone' believing you're important and 'Sutekh, the god of Death' believing you're important. There's also a matter of scale - the more believers a god has, the more powerful the god becomes. Or to bring that into our real world - the more people believe in an individual's importance, the more importance they seem to have. It's kinda the basis of fame.

[@IceMetalPunk]

@@chikzdigmohawkz Sutekh didn't believe she was important until he couldn't see her, so that's not why he couldn't see her. The idea was that Ruby and the Doctor believed she was important, and that was the "cause". And... how many people thought Ruby's mom was important? Certainly no more than most other people. A family's size at most.

[@chikzdigmohawkz]

@@IceMetalPunk Okay, but you've got it flipped - it's not that Sutekh couldn't see Ruby's mom because she was important; Ruby's mom was important because Sutekh couldn't get a good look at her, and couldn't deal with the mystery. The show's pretty clear on that when they figure out who she is at the end. It's like everyone thinking the company name in the previous episode was referencing the TARDIS, but it was actually referencing Sutekh - wrong anagram.

[@IceMetalPunk]

@@chikzdigmohawkz Are... are you sure? Because between my initial watch and my watch of several reaction videos, I did *not* get that understanding. So in all the centuries that Sutekh was clung to the TARDIS, this is the first person he just couldn't get a good look at, for no reason other than she had a cloak and turned away?

[@JonathanMartinez-ei4up]

Every time the topic of where Fire can or cant exist is brought up, Adam has a moment where his Fight or Fight reflex is triggered.

[@deltawho8002]

I've been waiting for this. I'm in Australia, it's 7:30 in the morning, going for a morning walk and saw yr upload. Now I have something to watch for breakfast.

[@jollyrayda]

youtube.com/@deltawho8002 Did you dig us getting that beautiful shot of destruction from the TARDIS? Gotta admit, impressed they remembered us...

[@danbach7748]

15:16, why, yes, Adam, that IS the correct response LOL

[@riccardobozzolan3792]

12:38 Had the same reaction, both the quote and the enthusiastic smile. I'm suprised they didn't do a callback to "The Doctor Dances". Also, did a bit of research about Sutekh before the episode, wanted to see if they had some "signature move" long -time fans could recognize, and I found out our Egyptophilic personification of Death had the habit of zapping the Doctor's brain during conversations, and even if it was a "blink and you miss it" moment, there was a scene where they did just that.

[@fatwolf]

Big finish time!!! Lucie (Louise) Miller is a character from big finish, she was in a relationship with William Foreman (Susan's son). Long story. So Ruby is kinda the Doctors Great Great Granddaughter.

[@AmazingChi]

Wait, was that deliberate? Because weirdly, I thought the actress looked a bit like Sheridan Smith, so that's a strange coincidence.

[@fatwolf]

@@AmazingChi I thought it was Sheridan at first.

[@joluoto]

I don't think they go that way with this. The Doctor should have recognized her if it was Lucie Miller, because in the ausio dramas she's a companion of the 8th Doctor. Also she's supposed to be very dead. Also the Doctor's great grandson in the audio stories was named Alex, not William.

[@fatwolf]

@@joluoto also during the short when Paul Mcgann regenerated into John Hurt, Paul mentioned her name. It could be a multiverse variant of her.

[@meronr74]

Mrs Flood has been dressed as various companions, Clara last episode and Romana at the end of this episode. Possibly the Rani? Rani = rain = flood.

[@fudgyvmp3961]

Definitely interesting. And she called the Doctor cleverboy while dressed as Clara didn't she? I'm wondering if there's other companions she mimicked that I missed. I could see her being Jenny, or anyone who could have been a companion, but then wasn't, someone he lost or abandoned, out for revenge.

[@pwalmsley9]

They didn't explain why it snows around Ruby. Or the song Maestro heard in her heart. A few too many threads hanging around Ruby herself. But the Sutekh stuff was great.

[@redcurrantart]

Setting up Ruby being special… well… Season 2. Russell said that the whooooole family isn’t done yet. So. Maybe there’s more to the story. We’ll see.

[@sophiecooper5678]

Rose was using her tablet to control the lasers.

[@shiitakehappens6194]

I think Ruby will be back next season at least for a little and there will be an episode surrounding her father. I suspect maybe her father will be the parent that gives her, her snowy abilities. The maestro said something like, HE couldn’t have been there when referring to Ruby. What that means, we have yet to discover. If her hinting toward her dad and there still being questions left unanswered about her whole thing I think it’s plausible.

[@PIAEmergence]

Ruby Skywalker...you're not wrong.

[@ChristianJull]

"Is there a Ruby here? Hello? Goddam, it's Sunday today! Hit the road!"

[@planthungry]

RTD said Ruby is back next season and a second companion that is played by someone we've already seen this season. You can google if you want to know.

[@cosmoetayson2828]

Tell Ruby Skywalker there's no fire in time travels lol

[@Mark_o_Helm]

He's not the "happy" Doctor, he's the "emotional" Doctor.😊

[@Addy0302]

I think the emotion of Ruby's mum was handled perfectly but the mystery aspect was fumbled hard

[@layniebear1237]

loved this episode personally, and i do wonder if it was her *Mrs Flood who kept making it snow. she had a full snow fit on

[@blaiddmawrdrwg917]

Rose was the one using the lasers.

[@FromRussiaWithLuv007]

I think it’s a bit metaphorical. He took Death, so death didn’t exist, nobody would die. So he had to kill it, letting death back into the universe

[@UncleMilo]

Correction: They didn't SPLIT the Tardis so much as summoned the TARDIS's future just as the future Doctor Bi-Generated out of the current one.

[@Mark_o_Helm]

10:49 Sutekh beams them from 2046 to 2024. Impressive. 😊

[@scotthewitt258]

This episode being so "rushed" and "compressed" is the literal definition of why sometimes you need more than six or eight episodes to tell some stories.

[@lgoamity]

Mel wasn't seen hanging onto 13's (Well the Master Doctor's) "?" Vest as "Her Doctors" iconic "?" vest (7) and admiring 6's Coat and Tie...

[@lgoamity]

Although there is a picture of Sylvester and Sacha Dhawan fighting over it... So it could be the same one used for the Master Doctor's costume?)

[@Mark_o_Helm]

11:15 "THE WHISTLE" 😁

[@DAVIDELLIOTT]

RTD has confirmed that Ruby will be back next season, and that there is much more to her story.

[@DCComicsGamer]

I love the idea that Ruby's mom was ordinary after all the importance put on her, that was very Tolkien, but I agree with Adam that the writing wasn't... quite... there. RTD did a few too many ominous build-ups and tricks. Why did the Doctor's memory keep changing? Why is Ruby's mom shrouded? If she's a registered nurse, then Davina McCall should've easily found her. Why did Ruby's mom point at that sign (to a complete stranger who didn't pass the message along) instead of, y'know, leaving a note? And that sign/lamppost isn't in the Christmas special, so RTD hadn't planned this twist from the start. Oh well, it was still a sweet end, and there's still the mystery of Mrs Flood...

[@Mark_o_Helm]

Rose was probably operating the turrets.😊

[@sorenfarley]

Btdubs, they didn't clone the TARDIS, he sent it forward in time, after 14 decked it out with the jukebox and wheelchair ramp. Same Tardis, different time.

[@wendigowatermelon6735]

Just for this episode: Welcome to Preview'd with Sandy and Dustin 😂

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks to Jay and Adam! ⏳ I share your tears, Jay. 🫂

[@dani.p]

14:52 Me: Oh Adam, "you've got a -waaaaaaay too tiny and underwhelming- storm coming" 🤣 The mom reveal was sooooo anticlimactic. At first I was very mad but now I just laugh 😂 I NEED a Fix It about this season finale, like, yesterday 😆

[@FromRussiaWithLuv007]

Technically she never pointed at the sign. Time window/timey wimey stuff changed stuff. Pretty much only thing needed

[@grump9001]

I hope thats the Christmas special name, "Let's Kill God" 😆

[@HellfireComms]

Ruby's family is still gonna be the focus in season 2, apparently.

[@Lans32485]

Can we take a moment to appreciate that the Doctor Clark Griswolded a death god accross all of time and space?

[@backtoearth1983]

MY theories for this weeks ep... We know Ruby's story is not done. Though I do think RTD dropped the ball in communicating that leaving people frustrated. MY takeaways... Ruby herself has a perception filter as hinted in dialogue. Why did the Doctor not want Ruby to talk to her mother (out of character). Is she really Ruby's mother or is a plot a foot. Is Ruby's father related ot Mad Jack (Ap Gwilliam (of William) Her father's name is William. With the reveal that 73 yards is the range of a perception filter when it becomes more apparent that old Ruby (Jack's Herald) wasn't telling people terrible things, she was showing them terrible things, they all look directly at Ruby before they freak out. Does standing at the very edge of the perception filter cause it's effect to sort of glitch and you see what's really real? Finding Ruby's mother was far too easy, and none of Maestro or Sutekh's dialogue work if she is just some random teen mom. For a few scenes I was almost convinced UNIT set up a fake mom just to make Ruby stop looking for now

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

1. *Skip to **1:09* 2. Even though we say goodbye to Ruby Sunday (for now), the mystery with Mrs. Flood continues. Onward to Series 15! 3. (15:02) Oddly enough, RTD did say that Star Wars: The Last Jedi was the inspiration for Ruby's mom reveal. 4. (17:33) She'll be back next season in a limited role, joining the Doctor and his other new companion (Mundy Flynn from the "Boom" episode written by Moffat).

[@NicholasAyon]

"Ruby Skywalker" is so damn accurate

[@airs1234]

My guess is Ruby’s dad “William” is going to be Susan’s son. Ruby is back for next series. 🥰

[@HellfireComms]

Susan must've had another son then, because her other son died in one of the radio plays.

[@evandenison5310]

Roger ap Gwilliam = son of William = Ruby's brother?? 👀

[@BrainCakeProductions]

Jay, there is already a god of death in pokemon. Giratina. You can also catch Arceus, which is the literal God of creation. Pokemon is wild

[@MuppetAdventure]

Mel finding her Doctor’s coat on the Tardis made me tear up a little.

[@stealahb]

of course, we haven't met Ruby's father yet. i'm still going for creature disguised as human like Peter Quill's dad. that said, i like the idea of the thing / person we give absolute importance too becomes absolutely important [weirdly reminds me of American Gods and how the old gods survived]. now ... about Mrs. Flood. is that a sonic umbrella? is she the new Mistress? her laughing with grandma saying "that clever boy" - is she evil [old] Clara? also, your whole Pokemon bit makes me want to see Sutekh as a Yu-Gi-Oh card.

[@ianstopher9111]

Just this once, Everybody Lives! Again

[@phtevenj]

so... i just heard this theory and it hurts my heart... where is the one place that the TARDIS has been that it cant go back to, to restore life? ROSEs alternate universe.... 😭😭

[@blackbenetavo7715]

19:28 to 19:34 Note that it's snowing around Mrs. Flood.

[@blackbenetavo7715]

I get the dissatisfaction of Ruby's mom just being an ordinary person. However, if you think about it, the mystery of her identity was so absolute, relative to Ruby's, or anyone's, ability to discover it that it took Ruby becoming a companion of the Doctor, as well as significant and momentous events, to set up the conditions necessary for the discovery of that identity. The implications of that fact could have become a self-reinforcing meta-conceptual enigma that built itself into something that not even gods could peer through easily.

[@peterslavik1449]

They said the nurses who picked her up got her name from someone likely the nuns

[@AG-co5iu]

Ap in Welsh culture means “Son of” *William* Benjamin *G* arnet … “oh… brother.” Night night. ❄️❄️❄️ 🎶whoo wee hoo🎵 🎵weee hoo we hooo🎶

[@davidchism6081]

All the way through the vortex. Wow, that's really him.

[@Mark_o_Helm]

11:32 The Doctor never kills anybody, right?😁

[@csk7769]

shocked at the amount of people acting like the thing with Ruby's mom was out of nowhere or hamfisted when it's been set up almost every episode since RTD came back. We know all we need to know about the music, the snow, and 73 Yards too

[@travisbelliveau626]

i kinda wish people didnt skip over mrs flood saying you did it you clever boy you did it

[@SupaKen74]

I was fine with EVERYTHING- the snow, the God of Death desperate to know who mom is only to find out she's just a normal person‐ ALL that I can totally get behind- except the pointing at the sign. That makes zero sense. All the rest? I'm good. But she should never have pointed. That's stupid.

[@sorenfarley]

Makes sense to me, Doctor arrived in front of her, so she had someone who would see her point at the sign, and that's why the memory changed, time changed.

[@fayesouthall6604]

I thought it weird but let it go

[@pandaphil]

They've already said Ruby will be back next season.

[@Freak_a_zoid]

You guys would look and sound fabulous reacting to Rebels! Just think of it…seeing the gangs again, Ezra, Sabine, Zeb….damn I can’t wait until you get back to REBELS S3E1 :) Pleeeeease!!!!

[@astrowebs410]

I didn't care about the mother reveal. I could take it or leave it. But the thing I actually didn't like was the reveal as to why she pointed. To name her? Just leave a note in the basket that says "Her name is Ruby."

[@andygozzo72]

i think theres more to come about ruby, her dad?? and who is mrs flood! trickster???

[@scotthewitt258]

No, we did NOT "make Ruby's mom special". We believed she was special because the SHOW has said she was special from the start.

[@williamdooley9193]

Jay is rocking that button down!

[@EnQuestOfficial]

swiffer stock about to boom in the doctor who universe

[@AlexanderWandering]

No, Ruby is coming back. This isn't the end of her being a companion.

[@SKVektus]

Yeah, my suspension of disbelief, while it has a pretty far off threshold, they were really testing it with, "the mythology we pour into this makes it manifest." Not knowing her mom, but caring a whole about it, makes literal snow materialize and protects them from multiple paracausal beings lol Definitely gave me Last Jedi vibes. It's not that we are upset that the character might have "mundane" parentage, it's that the creators played it up as a major importance only to pull the rug out from under the audience. Feels like a middle finger to the fans, y'know?

[@ItsAce44]

I love that they wanted to tell a story about a normal girl not being able to keep her child but there was tooo much of a bait and switch. What about all the other foundlings like Ruby? Everything but that was brilliant Doctor Who to me. Ncuti was stunning, he really feels like the Doctor to me which is heart warming. And using the timeless child plotline to give him a new source of sadness to deal with is a great way of using it I think. I think next season with a different overarching story will be even better! And you never know, we might get more answers about Ruby. There was still no explanation for the snow.

[@MrStGeorgeIllawarra]

I'm fine with the reveal, I didn't want another kid of a time lord or Ruby being the child of a god or something anyway.

[@dragonwings36]

From what I can find online Ruby will be back next season. Not 100% sure on that, maybe not full time? There's still some things that I want answers on. Also I liked the reunion scene though I get that Ruby's mum being someone random doesn't jam with everyone (it did for me but I was adopted and missed out on that chance unfortunately due to medical neglect (make sure to pay attention to any pain in your middle to your right lower side people), though I have met some bio family who are nice.

[@Beowulfie]

I read that the same person did the voice for this version of Sutekh and the first version.

[@mimiquoi7380]

-×-=+ Death×Death=Life Or should I said... MIRACULOUS LADYBUG !

[@Mark_o_Helm]

How do you save the universe? You take the dog for a walk.😊

[@healthfirstfreelancer]

I had the exact same reaction to you guys on the ruby/mom reveal. It felt like a let down. I get where rtd was going but like... my guy you were the one who put magic and gods in this season. You opened the door. For it to then be like, no! Shes important because shes so nORmAL was like... ok 😅 I just wanted ruby to be a demigod or something but maybe thats just me idk 😂

[@blackbenetavo7715]

10:51 Hey Adam, doesn't Ruby's outfit here remind you of Jenny's outfit?