Men Kill Innocent Motorist with Rock | Alexa Bartell Case Analysis

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[@yazansakran3326]

This is messed up. They even went back to take a picture, saw she was in bad shape, and left her to die. They deserve life in prison.

[@NikkiC777]

They deserve the death penalty for what they did, in my opinion anyway. If that is not an option though, then I would say life in prison, and no parole. What they did was just messed up, very, very, sick.

[@martinwhite418]

@@NikkiC777 Death penalty is a really bad idea. There are too many cases with cheating law enforcement and prosecutors.

[@NikkiC777]

@@martinwhite418 That is your opinion. I do not agree with it. My opinion is that if it is a case where it is very obvious who committed the crime, and it was a crime where the perpetrator intentionally killed the victim in a brutal, violent, sadistic way, then I feel that the death penalty is appropriate. The victim does not get to go on living, and she was only 20 years old. The criminals shouldn't get to go on living either. I am sure they won't get the death penalty though, not in this case, but they should. They'll get some extremely weak sentence and then they'll be back out by the time they're 35, free to go out and commit more crimes, and leech off society. Edit: I don't think the death penalty should be used unless it is a case where there is so much evidence that there is no question as to who committed the crime. Those guys in this video are definitely guilty. There are cases where there is more of a question about the guilt of a suspect. In a case like that I would not want them to get the death penalty either.

[@martinwhite418]

@Nikki C So we punish people who are "really" guilty with the death penalty, and we send people who are "probably sorta guilty" to prison for life. Sounds fair, that's not what U.S. law says, but we will just go with your version.

[@oooof6861]

@@NikkiC777 I agree. The soft on crime approach has proven to fail miserably. All it does is breed more and more evil. I don’t wanna see anybody die, but a healthy society requires firm, hard choices when dealing with these ‘cancerous criminals’. Remove the tumor the second it’s found or else it’ll grow out of control

[@roringusanda2837]

Old enough to know better, cruel enough not to care. They should never see another day outside of prison.

[@mrazik131]

yes they will from tax dollars and never work and produce anything productive, not a justice !

[@Ammo08]

Some people are just mean, stupid, and useless....killed an innocent person just for fun.

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Vicious idiots

[@Seven_1865]

In those cases the state should kill the guilty person for justice.

[@tommccormick9290]

@@Seven_1865 I think in such cases, the decision of their fate should be left to the victim's relatives.

[@david-dj8or]

They should have done some socially accepted fun like hunting animals, or pulling fish out their home with hooks in their mouth.

[@pkmcburroughs]

"Useless" would be an improvement. It certainly beats malignancy.

[@venderstrat]

A 'prank' is putting flour on the blades of a ceiling fan. Dropping a rock onto a car doing 60mph is murder.

[@jungness]

They threw a rock going opposite direction doing 60. That projectile is doing 120+ mph

[@thiscorrosion900]

I'm past having sympathy for these "kids", these are budding psychopaths. I say put them away for life that's it.

[@aheimdahl5201]

Yup.

[@aileenhay4613]

Stoning seems appropriate sentence 😡

[@really2345]

They are not kids. They were all eighteen years old. They will be treated as adults.

[@chrisg4305]

​@@aileenhay4613 short drop and a sudden stop seems more appropriate. If we punished people like this these days there wouldn't be near as much crime

[@TWLogik]

You know unfortunately that isn't going to happen bcse they are young WM; No matter how agregious their behavior was afterwards. The judges aren't going to be willing to throw their future away and will see this as 1 poor decision. Even though, they attacked multiple people. Her family will have a lifetime of anguish and they'll get some crazy sentence of 5yrs or less if any. These sentences are always minimal only when the offender is Brad or Chad and non-existent if the victim is non-white. We saw this on Jan 6 and there are numerous other cases. RIP to this young lady who was just minding her own dxmn business and some demons snuffed her out.

[@MizoletteTV]

I live in Colorado and grew up in Jefferson County. I graduated one year prior to Columbine. Those boys need to be punished by the fullest extent of the law. Poor Alexa did not deserve this. I’m sorry for her family’s loss. Her demise was senseless in my opinion.

[@tryhardfinessedyou]

You could have left that whole part about columbine out? Seems weird to bring that up. Not really the claim to fame you think. It's like saying "I was almost on the plane that hit the south tower." Yeah but you weren't.

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

@@tryhardfinessedyou I thought it was just me who thought that. Literally completely irrelevant and purposeless. I was so confused as to why it was mentioned. What on earth has it got to do with this case?

[@MasterMalrubius]

@@tryhardfinessedyou Why is it weird? Columbine took place in Jefferson county and shares a complete disregard for a person's life. It seems to be right along the same issue of people killing other people for their own sick reason.

[@MasterMalrubius]

@@TheFakeyCakeMaker Irrelevant? It happened in the same country by people who cared nothing about the lives of others but only wanted to destroy. Seems very similar to me.

[@fallingathousandfeet]

@@MasterMalrubiuswhat on earth? these are not remotely comparable cases

[@karakreativevlog]

The fact that they went back to take a picture, tells me they were on a bad path already. Throw the book at them!

[@aheimdahl5201]

I agree. If they had not been caught and felt that they got away with it, they may have escalated their misdeeds. One or all might have become Serial Murderers later on down the line had they not been caught.

[@Secter84]

The whole pact to never speak on it and the "blood brothers" BS tells me that they have talked about previously or have entertained the idea amongst themselves about killing someone. That's like some movie shit, straight "I know what you did last summer". 🤦🏼‍♂️ These morons watched too much TV... actually thought that they were going to get away with it is so mind-blowingly retarded. Like it's so obvious that someone is going to see you and get a description of the vehicle, especially going the opposite way on a a road that the person they throw the rock at is going. Like it's so fucking obvious. Lucky for us they aren't smarter and getting away with it.

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

​@@aheimdahl5201 Considering how many times they'd carried out this psychotic ritual, it's amazing that they hadn't already graduated to the spree killer level.

[@freedomfries6618]

The pictures plus the fact they did to other vehicles ( smashing windshields and injuring drivers) prior to killing this girl would make me think that they had a total indifference to what may have happened to their targets. A real bunch of losers.

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

@@freedomfries6618 Man I think as frequently as they did it, and like you said, going back and snapping photos, I don't think it was indifference, Freedom. I think it was done intentionally, with malice. Seems like they psyched themselves up for the things they did. But indeed, what a bunch of worthless fuckin losers, I couldn't agree more on that statement.

[@shadow.banned]

She had a really great friend to track her down. Everyone needs friends like that.

[@bellaboots9589]

That “friend” was her girlfriend. I went to high school with Alexa, I don’t know why the news puts her out as her “friend”

[@shadow.banned]

@@bellaboots9589 Probably homophobia. I'm being targeted by homophobic bikers right now with police/military/etc. These men went so far to use a speaker system into my house threatening abduction/r*pe/killing of my sister, cousins, family, etc. Claims they're belligerent for uploading photos of my interracial relationship 15 years ago. Claims they're spending every waking moment trying to give me HIV/HCV and criminalize me.. Admitted they tried to send someone to abduct me with a California 5150. Are spending every second of the day taunting me, harassing me, shooting me with Directed Energy Weapons over LAX Airport on a belligerent tantrum like the racist Erik Prince/Betsy Devos family. Admitted they wanted me to attack my own country and spread infectious diseases.

[@minnietrout814]

Two of these rock throwing incidents occurred less than a mile from my ex-husband’s apartment. That community was really relieved when arrests were made. Disgusting behavior by these young men! They’ve ruined many lives, including their own parents. I hope they each get the maximum sentence possible. A night or two after Alexa’s death, they attended their senior prom. Disgusting!

[@harrylook7810]

you trying to pretend you care about your ex-husband?

[@shitmandood]

@@harrylook7810 I think she was pointing out that the ex lives in a dump with shady neighbors.

[@xcobyxzei]

@@harrylook7810🤔

[@joevignolor4u949]

@@harrylook7810 I have an ex-wife. I still get along with her and she is my best friend. We definitely still care for each other. Not all marriages end with the two people hating each other. Sometimes circumstances just change and people move on.

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

Their own parents raised them, they are responsible for how they turned out. They do NOT get to complain about their lives being ruined. If my offspring had turned out to be such lobotomised violent scum by the age of 18, as a bare minimum I would re-examine my entire f*** life. Hopefully they'll never see the light of day again.

[@nunyabisniss1179]

In the 70s when i was a little kid, my friends and i threw a bunch of flowers into a busy blvd. A man pulled his car over and walked up to me. The friends ranaway. That man told me in a serious voice while holding on to my arm what a dangerous thing i just did. He told me what really could have happened. I felt really bad and pretty stupid. Im 58 and i still remember that man and i appreciate him. I feel so sorry for this woman and her family and friends. These boys definitely know better, and should pay the price.

[@anne-marieh6128]

Yah- the return to take photos as a Momento, of a stationary vehicle that had drifted off the side of the road (obviously containing a severally injured victim at minimum) demonstrates absolute intent to cause great harm. How does that differ from a serial rapist or murderer actively seeking out a victim. It would be devastating to learn they are prosecuted for anything less then first degree murder. Unfathomable actions. How did they become monsters?!

[@shirmeymckamey9386]

​@QAZ totally entitled!

[@kukuyeah]

They are losers that egged each other on. One dumb, immature kid can do something stupid, but when you put two or more together it gets exponential.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

​@@kukuyeah They aren't worth letting live.

[@gildedpeahen876]

It’s the end product of a school/home environment that tells kids they are special, better than others, gives zero consequences. It’s a massive lack of spirituality and connection to god or any sense of humanist ideals. This is pure unadulterated narcissism. Their feelings and desires come before the entire rest of humanity. It’s a basic lack of respect, and a school/home environment that never taught a single value.

[@nadinewhite993]

​@@gildedpeahen876 Maybe they're just copying God and hurting people for the fun of it.

[@Chichilovee]

As if it weren't horrible enough but to go back for a photo made my stomach turn. This was no prank it was murder. I feel so badly for the parents and friends of the young lady. I cannot wrap my mind around such evil things that we see and hear in this world. 😢

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

Yeah, that going back for the photo just says everything we need to know about those men.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Dr. Grande, that’s a gorgeous background, well done!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 May this be a place of many more intriguing and entertaining analyses. This case is absolutely horrific. Their actions were not only grossly negligent but also sadistic. Your analysis was on point, as usual. Thank you.❤

[@skycloud4802]

I kind of prefer the brick background myself. I guess it's the "less is more" sort of thing. Especially when the stories involving crime are very serious topics.

[@ellyjett]

I’m loving all the cacti!

[@rtypepe]

new background id lovely

[@dinglerange]

There aren't enough cacti... And I can see more moles.

[@matthew.m.stevick]

New Jersey residents don’t pump our own gas ⛽️ by law, not ask questions why.

[@haileyoslund]

Dr. Grande, this happened 12 minutes away from where I live in Arvada Colorado. I like to drive late at night and have driven many times where these incidents occurred. I felt heart broken when I heard of this happening. I’ve been scared to drive at night until recently when the young men were finally caught. Just terrifying and senseless. Thank you for covering this case and speaking about Alexa, she seemed so sweet.

[@bryanutility9609]

Safety is an illusion, but vigilance is a choice. Always be prepared for emergencies.

[@Blissfulnessence]

I agree Dr. Grande. These guys had every intent to kill eventually and because they'd participated in this activity so many times previously without consequences they probably figured once the fatality happened (as it was bound to), they'd get by with that too. Their lack of remorse and getting a picture for a memento is truly sadistic. Thanks for your analysis on this. Loving the background. 🌵 🌵

[@parakeetn]

Everytime I hear about one of these cases of rock throwing it pisses me off. I remember the case of the Michigan man and the teenagers, thay one really got me - because I work for a living too, and all you want after a hard day of laboring is to go home, but he didn't get to go home, and neither did this girl. Because some losers were bored. I ever see someone tossing rocks at occupied cars like that, I'm going after them.

[@kharbear53]

Be careful, people that are willing to throw rocks at passing cars could be psychotic 😢

[@SisypheanRoller]

That's admirable but please be careful.

[@taliat1971]

I got hit in the head with a rock that was thrown through my boyfriend's truck. I luckily turned my head to look at my boyfriend while he was talking bc instead of hitting me in the temple it hit me behind my ear instead. I had glass embedded in my neck and face and scalp and my head was busted and bleeding bad. I thought I had been shot bc the sound of the rock busting through my window was so loud in the tiny cab of the truck. 😭

[@joanthompson5606]

It's so appalling that you were put through that! 😲😪 If anything like that ever happened to me, I would be so enraged with the whole world for a very long time! 😡🤯😱 Kudos for your tolerance and resilience! 🤝🖖

[@annacastellano4512]

that's so scary Talia. oh my.

[@davealaya]

That is awesome that they checked all cell phones in the area, and tracked movement to figure this out. Those dumb bastards probably thought there was no way to get caught.

[@candykkhorsesngp925]

Great police work on this case

[@MsSwitchblade13]

That's just so terrible and tragic. They need to serve some serious time for this blatant cold blooded murder.

[@bryanutility9609]

Death should be the only punishment

[@nancydemoss2945]

They'll probably be legally represented by a lawyer that will blame the rock.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@bryanutility9609Ahhh, you must be Christian!

[@jackiegrice714]

I love the black curtain-it makes you and all your furniture and decor stand out better. Cases like this leave me unsettled. On the one hand, I don’t like the fact that those young men were capable of such callousness. On the other hand, they spark a fear of carelessness in me, like I start wondering if I could hurt somebody someday because I wasn’t paying attention. It’s always important to be careful with people’s safety , because unintended consequences can be brutal for all involved. On the other hand, I don’t think these guys worried about other peoples safety at all. Thanks for posting this Dr. Grande.

[@ChefSalad]

This reminds me of the time when I was driving home from high school and someone threw an unopened can of Coke out of their car at my windshield. Our cars were going around 45 mph in opposite directions. The can went completely through my windshield. Fortunately it went through the center of the windshield and landed on the backseat of the minivan, where no one was sitting. What a mess. I, or my passenger, would have been seriously injured if that pop can had actually hit one of us. So dangerous. Also, the can was still full when it hit the seat, so it's not like it weighed significantly less after it went through the windshield. My mom was so pissed. First at us, thinking that we did it, and then at the asshole who did it when she realized it wasn't our fault.

[@joanthompson5606]

You seem like someone with alot of patience and tolerance! Had it been me, I would have turned around, chased them down, and the outcome after venting my fury would have been harmful to all parties involved....

[@kukuyeah]

Knowingly throwing a heavy object (i.e., not a candy wrapper) out of a car at high speed should either be automatically classed as a felony, whether someone gets hurt or not, or, at the very least, your license should be revoked. It's obvious you lack responsibility or maturity to drive on public roads.

[@mrkrabstinysadviolin1400]

@joan Thompson no you wouldn’t have, stop trying to be a keyboard tough guy

[@joanthompson5606]

@@mrkrabstinysadviolin1400 🤣🤣🤣 you have no clue what you're talking about... that reply was absolutely my confession of a personality disorder that manifests as uncontrolled rage, that I've had therapy for the last 40 years to learn to cope with... 😡😡😡

[@MustardLadySaveMe]

so glad you were safe, that would have shook me to my core. what a horrible waste of soda too!

[@MadCatLady28]

Dr. Grande, you should analyse the attributes of the young man who refused to participate and turned his friends in. It would be interesting to know what personality traits made him immune to the group dynamic.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Probably consciousness.

[@MadCatLady28]

@@ANPC-pi9vu conscientiousness makes people more likely to conform to group expectations, I would have thought. I'm very low conscientiousness and have always been resistant to peer pressure.

[@fighterflight]

@@MadCatLady28 they said consciousness, not conscientiousness. assuming they meant being conscious that this was a terrible idea that could lead to life-ruining consequences.

[@MadCatLady28]

@@fighterflight 🤣 I just assumed it was a typo, but you make a point.

[@kelb6073]

​@@MadCatLady28 are you sure? I have read the opposite.

[@lisabenson]

The background is incredible and befitting of your serious in-depth coverage. I truly enjoy each episode. I even return to favorite oldies. Thanks Dr Grande!

[@Ipetam]

Her friend sounded like a good friend. Terrible she had to lose her friend and see her in that state. :(

This whole case is insane. Let’s hope they get the appropriate punishment for the murder.

[@crystalwater505]

Agreed. They need to be charged with maximum penalties.

[@jochenheiden]

The death penalty from stoning is the only appropriate punishment.

[@Jay-gf8tm]

Nice to see a fellow Clanker out in the wild

[@bryanutility9609]

Death should be the only punishment.

[@vixxxenfoxxx3660]

​@@jochenheiden that's actually a very fitting death sentence.

[@pwallace5359]

My best friend was killed by a drunk driver at age 20 in 1994. Her killer didn’t receive any punishment. He was 30 years old and it wasn’t his first offense but it was a small Southern town and his family had lots of influence . I’ve carried a lot of rage about this and I’m disgusted by drunk drivers. I’ll never understand why it’s taken so lightly when it kills so many innocent people. I could have really used her friendship for the past 29 years . As a Christian I have faith I’ll see her again and her killer will eventually answer for what he did.

[@littleeva]

If the driver continues to drink, he'll have a very, slow and painful death ahead of him.

[@gildedpeahen876]

I’m sorry friend. It’s good that you have faith. I do to, and I don’t know how I’d deal with this world and the people in it without that faith. You two will be together in heaven, while all murderers and liars will be cast out.

[@chrisg4305]

While it's good to faith in universal justice, we need to ensure that their worldly bodies suffer for what they do in their time here.

[@jimmyjay689]

I would say ur story is bullshit, but then I remember Ted Kennedy

[@MattCurrieImprov]

The lake of fire is no joke.

[@lindas5964]

I think when someone commits an act like this to random people for kicks, it’s something else besides potential bad parenting (as others have suggested) IMO they are worse than the rage shooters. They did this for FUN. It’s a terrifying world out there folks. Stay safe. (If you can)

[@HexagonSun990]

Just because what they did was really bad doesn't mean it's not potentially the fault of bad parenting. Don't know what to call this but I think it's some kind of fallacy can't remember.

[@mickk8519]

Maybe they were in bred, or something else that would cause such moronic behaviour.

[@Valkari22]

Yes, it's sadism, taking pleasure in the pain of others, usually a sign of a personality disorder. These psychos need to be locked up forever because this type of behaviour doesn't go away with age or the amount of time spent in prison.

[@chek1n]

@@Valkari22 yeah, once its expressed, its there forever.

[@captainobvious6070]

Psychopathy.

[@oceanstaiga5928]

We had driving awareness classes in middle school. While most was oriented towards drunk driving we were told about a case close to us where someone threw a piece of wood and killed a person in the car. We were shown images of the car as it was, bloody and with the piece of wood in it. We were also shows images of wrecked cars after drunk driving crashes. Nothing ever taught me as fast as this class. I hope all the kids in my school got “scared straight” because I just cannot fathom what makes anymore throw any object on highways.

[@whodoesntluvpapas]

we had a similar experience in assembly one year. Saw a photo of a teenage boy who drove while intoxicated....this was 20 years ago, and it's still burned into my memory: literally looked like someone had taken a bowling ball sized melon baller and scooped out half his head. Brutal.

[@victoriacyunczyk]

There have been a LOT of these incidents lately, especially involving trucks. Pretty scary stuff for me as a truck driver in training.

[@cmthomas07]

💕🙏🏻💕

[@MEL2theJ]

Yes, prayers for you 🙏

[@victoriacyunczyk]

@@MEL2theJ Thanks

[@bryanutility9609]

Women drivers are bad enough as it is, good luck!

[@ValkyrieofNOLA]

I’m sorry, but there have been NUMEROUS fatal incidents Involving someone throwing a rock or some other object into traffic and striking a person in a vehicle, causing the death of the person. The news coverage of these cases was broadcast nationally and repeatedly. The risk of killing a person by throwing objects into traffic is very well known, especially in the internet age. These boys knew what they were doing and what they had been responsible for after they watched that girl’s car drift off the road, and decided to take a photo of her mangled car and possibly her body to keep as a “memento.” IMO, that absolutely shows a grave indifference to human life and the consequences of their actions were not as devastating to them as it should have been. The fact that they all turned on each other is just another example of the lack of empathy and compassion for the people affected by the moronic decisions they made. All of them were old enough to know better, and should have to pay the price accordingly.

[@may-beeart7930]

The grief and pain they brought to the family is horrible. They murdered this girl. They need life they are dangerous

[@bryanutility9609]

Death penalty without a day in jail would serve justice and serve as deterrent.

[@musicismagic3001]

@@bryanutility9609- We don’t have the death penalty in Colorado.

[@bryanutility9609]

@@musicismagic3001 of course not we have homelessness, trans kids, & decriminalized fentanyl. 👏👏👏

[@musicismagic3001]

@@bryanutility9609 Wow…help me connect the dots…

[@musicismagic3001]

@@bryanutility9609 oh, and please cite your source for “decriminalizing fentinal”. Can I assume you are a Boebert supporter?

[@Heyymynameisjbells]

My dad was killed by a driver under the influence but the driver was well connected and got away without even a ticket so i feel you.

[@mr.t658]

Xddddddd

[@ColoradoAquarium]

If your last name is Quack, why would you name your kid Zack?

[@cliftonfloyd9994]

😂

[@ann-mariepaliukenas19]

They hated him.

[@sup_monica3597]

Rednecks.

[@katherinejones8022]

Good question.

[@yannialicia6529]

I'm sure that influenced some rage in him.

[@JackRainfield]

My Dad had this happen to him so I always keep an eye open for pedestrians on bridges as I pass underneath. My Dad didn't get injured but his front window was entirely blown out and he was traveling through another state.

[@ei3545]

18 year olds throwing rocks that caused that young lady to lose her life. How tragic and senseless! Prayers for the family of the victim.

[@HemiChrysler]

how will prayers help ?

[@GGiblet]

​@@HemiChrysler prayer will not bring her back but if her family is spiritual it will comfort them to be lifted in prayer

[@HemiChrysler]

@@GGiblet how will the family know? I don't understand the connection.

[@haggis525]

Prayers? Seriously? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just an fyi, dude; your god let that rock kill her. I mean, not in reality... because that's some bad juju, imaginary and nonsensical claptrap. If you actually believe in the nonsense then your god did, in fact, let this happen. Oh.... I hear ya "the good lord works in mysterious ways" but prayer is less than useless. Make a casserole for them or something... at least that's real and takes some minimal amount of effort. True story: one of my sons died when he was a few days shy of his 19th birthday... some god freak said this to me "Well, he's now in a much better place... there's some comfort in that." I'll admit that it wasn't my finest hour but I punched him several times in the face and body... hurt my hands quite a lot. Was arrested, detained but released about 10 - 12 hours later. No charges were followed through on.... bit of luck, that. Thank god, right? 🤣🤣🤣 Be careful what you say to people who are grieving... particularly the grief experienced by the loss of a child. It's "next level" grief.... again; not my finest hour but I don't actually regret it one bit.

[@houseofsolomon2440]

@@HemiChrysler It involves some kind of leap of faith. Mark Twain said he prayed for some fishing tackle as a kid & only received some line - no hooks - so he gave up on the endeavor. lol

[@suomusirkus]

Cheers from Finland! I've been watching your analyze/case videos for over 2 years now, but just recently found your exellent spss tutorials.. Huge help in getting through a regression analyzis on very mixed data. ✨️

[@bunnymad5049]

They are a special kind of stupid, aren't they? Poor Alexa and her family and the others affected by these actions. These three require consequences. I hope they meet some serious ones. This is not a prank. People know that people "can" die, but went ahead anyhoo - and as you say, they chose large rocks. They knew something was wrong and just enjoyed that they had harmed someone. The lack of empathy points to a need to nip this in the bud. It will only escalate. Agree Dr G. 30 years would be an excellent result.

[@aheimdahl5201]

I believe had they not been caught, they definitely would have escalated.

[@bunnymad5049]

@@aheimdahl5201 Yup.

[@skierprincessakify]

@@aheimdahl5201 Absolutely, their need for thrill seeking would eventually lead to even more or worse attacks on people. I wouldn’t be surprised if these guys engage in animal cruelty.

[@theedwardian]

Stupidity has nothing to do with it. They are sadistic bad seeds. There's probably a gene responsible for their behavior. Old world evil.

[@theKRB93]

Cases as senseless as these are always some of the most enraging. Great analysis and stellar setup 🌵

[@Pluggit1953]

Thirty years hard labor - breaking up rocks.

[@raymondvunk7123]

I certainly hope them going back to take a picture is presented and has a significant impact as an aggravating factor.

[@GigiRulesTheRoost]

What a horrific crime. That poor young woman and her family and friends. Yes, Dr. Grande....those foolish heartless sadistic MEN should spend many MANY years in prison. If they do not get a stiff penalty then something is very very wrong.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Send them to hell.

[@bitteralmonds666]

Even throwing pebbles is dangerous. There was a case of a group of kids who’d throw metal ball bearings in the freeway here in Southern California back in the late 80s, which was causing all kinds of motor vehicle accidents.

[@myfavoritecolorisrage]

My daughter was hit in the head at a school bus stop by a palm sized rock. A crazed girl decided to throw a handful of rocks in the air every time a car approached... on the first day of school, no less. One badly aimed rock came straight down on my daughter's head and caused a nasty injury. A similar incident occurred a few weeks later, when a different group of kids were throwing rocks at cars while standing on a street corner. It's funny how quickly that behavior stops when you press charges. Real quick. Cops said the kids were practically crying when they showed up. But this is what you have to do. Word gets around quickly, and kids change their behavior. But society is too concerned with feeling sorry for the perpetrators as the first reaction.

[@mikelobrien]

Excellent points made, Dr. Grande. Just because a motor vehicle was involved should not mean that they did not commit murder. I also agree with your point about people who wittingly drive under the influence and cause death and/or injury of another. I hope justice is served in this case and the sentencing of these men is appropriate to the crime they committed.

[@david-dj8or]

In Australia, they are treating use of mobile phone while driving near as bad as drink driving. The girl was said to be using her mobile when hit.

[@roadrunner9622]

​@@david-dj8or Did it say she was holding it? Have you ever heard of Bluetooth? Please think before you comment.

[@kg6801]

@@david-dj8or It wasn't like she was texting and hit something avoidable in the road, she didn't hit the rock because of failing to act because of distraction, it was deliberately thrown at her windshield from a moving vehicle, hit her head and went all the way through the car, she was in the middle of talking to another person on the phone, not like she was texting. Given the other incidents where they were throwing rocks at windshields AT the drivers, it's unlikely her being on the phone hands-free or not had much to to with it, and I am not a person in favour of messing with distracting things while driving.

[@mikelobrien]

@@david-dj8or in many US states, there's what is called a "hands free" law. As long as a driver is using their mobile phone using hands-free technology, operating while moving is legal. In this case, I think it's pretty clear cut that the maliciously thrown stone caused Alexa's death.

[@David167projects]

@@roadrunner9622 beep! beep!

[@MindKontrolleProject]

The difference/analogy of a drunk person in a car and a drunk person with a bat is of course its intention. These men absolutely knew there was a VERY high probability of serious injury or death. Their so called playing is like playing Russian Roulette with 1/2 the chambers loaded. My analogy of the rocks and a gun. These guys were not playing with a .22 but with a .357 mag. Good vid again👍

[@ciscokid4282]

It's my humble opinion bullies are cowards. Picking on those unable to defend themselves

[@MakerInMotion]

Back in the day we threw eggs and we had long outgrown such shenanigans by 18.

[@dianebrady6784]

Now it's only in theaters....on Halloween... With newspapers and squirt guns.

[@bryanutility9609]

@@dianebrady6784 everything is getting worse everyday.

[@lisacolledge7624]

I live in an area where bridges/overpasses/underpasses were under construction for years and given the increase in traffic (since the original format was introduced) there were 1000s of residents thrilled with shorter times to work and home. It was great. Then....some smartarses decided the chucking rocks on to traffic and busses below was a great idea. Not sure they felt quite the same thrill following 2 deaths and a bus driver so traumatised, he retired. I can no longer recall what the term was, but i do know they were older teens, and pretty sure they weren't going to somewhere they could terrorise others. Im pretty sure they were separated too. Best idea! Love your work Dr G. Sometimes you really help, not simply educate. ❤xx

[@Lemonteaxi]

Sounds so close to the way my dad died that it’s scary. Rock fell off the back of the truck and shot through his windshield. It’s so sad when shit like this happens.

[@supernova11711]

Jeez, I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine losing a parent due to something as stupid as carelessness. At least it wasn’t on purpose but still…results were the same. May he rest in peace 🙏💕

[@godzillamanstreb524]

I’m sorry about your dad

[@fatalexcrement4075]

Dang that’s like one of those things life throws at you “curveballs” crazy shit sorry for your loss dude rip

[@PJAndersson733]

I’m so sorry. No one deserves that.

[@investigator77]

I'm so sorry you lost your dad like that. It's so cruel when someone dies because of morons like these idiots. I've lost both of my parents, and I still miss them. Sending you a big (((((MOM HUG))))), from Toronto, Canada

[@lisasmith767]

I remember a case in Florida back in the 90s that involved teenagers removing a stop sign at a busy highway intersection. This ultimately lead to at least one death. I believe the teens were sentenced to 10-15 years in prison. I wish I could recall it in more detail.

[@alexandervosteen5986]

I was already started to get worried - but now I see the reason why you wanted to keep us waiting ;) Congrats to the new studio. Keep up the good work!

@@animeandwieardness6132look more cool

[@janinemccartha1811]

Hi Dr. Grande. I really can't believe how stupid the rock throwing incidents are. No one should have to tolerate deliberate actions from anyone. I hope they realize how crazy they are & rot in hell & jail. Your new studio look is cool, peace to y'all, love, Janine Smiley😋😘😍😇😎☕🍩☕🥧🦓👀👣💖💕

[@marthadgreen8216]

How sad for Alexa, she didn't see it coming even. RIP

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Yeah, this kind of crime should get the maximum punishment possible. This is psychopathic behavior that has no place in general society.

[@thefloridaexpress1811]

i’ve recently just got really into Dr Grande i’ve been subscribed for a few years but just now doing a deep dive on his content. i love the subtle common sense hints and small jokes and unbiased analysis that he gives thanks doc

[@dissidentfairy4264]

This is a terrible story. It's not even safe to leave home anymore. The heartless men who did this have zero conscience and no regard for human life. I hope they throw the book at them.

[@haggis525]

Well... it's actually never been "safe" to be out and about. The trick is to do your best to mitigate risks but they'll always be there.

[@crystalwater505]

You're right. You should just hide inside for the rest of your life. That way you'll live a very unfulfilling and boring, but safe life.

[@suryadas6987]

The book or a rock off an overpass....

[@bthomson]

DF - Hello! It's called true crime! They are all terrible stories!

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@haggis525 Things have gotten so much worse over the last few years with daily mass shootings. You never know when you're going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now people can't knock on a door or pull into a driveway without possibly getting shot, and now we have killer rock throwers. We may as well be living in a war zone!

[@krissteel4074]

Thanks for highlighting the responsibility of vehicle ownership, operations and the abuse that is often downgraded when they're used in a criminal manner.

[@rullmourn1142]

Colorado will make an example of these three boys, they have no problem in handing down long sentences to teens like these.

[@wiseone1013]

15 to 20 years seems like an appropriate prison sentence. They must be shown as little mercy as they showed their victims. Soft on crime people are delusional and dangerous and should be treated with contempt for protecting criminals. Dr Grande speaks sense as always. Corrupt prosecutors/judges must be removed or the system will collapse.

[@shirmeymckamey9386]

15 to20? Seriously? These feril animals should never walk the streets again!

[@marylynncarroll5267]

Terrible, terrible! So glad we have cellphone data, that can be used for investigation. Helpful in this case. Thank you!

[@fritzidler9871]

I thumbed this up even though I'm very sad or depressed right now. I'm glad you recommended 30 years, doc. Let's hope these retrobates get the most possible from the state.

[@daniellavaladez7820]

Loving the upgraded studio, doc! Are you backstage for your stand-up comedy routine?

[@bruisersdilemma354]

I think it's just a green screen homie...I may be wrong, but...

[@daniellavaladez7820]

@@bruisersdilemma354 I know, I was just joking.

[@tonim5924]

This is sick. What is happening to our youth today? Rock throwing when using a six pound rock sounds like murder to me. They would not want me on their jury.

[@tmajcan94]

Love the new backdrop Dr. Grande! Hardest working doctor on KZbin.

[@Traderjoe]

Also, I did not know that you could use the “find my phone” feature to find someone else’s phone. But thank goodness Alexa’s friend did. Otherwise they wouldn’t have found her as quickly as they did. I wonder if these kids through another rock through the rear window once they returned to take pictures?

[@elizabethhamm5320]

I’m hoping that you’re wrong and that they don’t get leniency. You’re rarely wrong but I’m hoping that you are in this instance. May that beautiful young woman rest in peace and receive justice. She had her whole life ahead of her 😢

[@aheimdahl5201]

People are horrified and def screaming for blood in this Case. I doubt if there will be any leniency - these were Adults (not Kids) that did this thing, and they were plenty old enough to know that throwing those heavy rocks had the potentially to seriously injure or kill. They did this intentionally and with malice aforethought. I wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than 50 Years in jail for these Psychos.

[@ericjbowman1708]

10:50 You'd be surprised how much damage a pebble can do. My Mom got hit by one that came off a dump truck going the other direction, this was several years ago on Hwy 93. The little itty-bitty pebble hit her windshield right at the A-pillar, spraying Mom with glass, and actually tore through the sheet metal. Mom freaked out, but managed to safely pull over ad stop. Good thing she was wearing sunglasses. Took her about 20 minutes to gather herself before proceeding. That pebble could've hit her right between the eyes, instead of going past her head by an inch.

[@YeshMCx]

I'd be mad too if my name was Zack Quack

[@marisam9803]

The name alone would turn me into a criminal 😮😅

[@francoispelletier8741]

Love the new studio Dr Grande .The blue and green lights ...👍👍

[@vice2versa]

Can you do a video analysis of the drunk driver Stephanie meldoza? A police bodycam video recently came out and it shows her laughing, singing and not comprehending the seriousness of her killing 2 people when she asks the cop when she will be able to go back to school

[@lindas5964]

Yes I think she was def on some sort of drugs. Even alcohol won’t insulate you from a tragedy as big as the one she caused. Or God forbid she’s just another soulless creature like this trio.

[@Secter84]

​@@CC-oi9mc dude she was like 0.26. she was fucking hammered. There's no way she was on bars dude. I was addicted to them hardcore at least 2bars everyday sometimes more, bombed out of my mind for 2 years straight. At the beginning of the body cam video when the cops first get there shes talking to them, little slurred but not Xanax status.

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

​@@Secter84 Yeah I saw the entire 30 minute thing with her. She was drunk as Hogan's goat, but I don't think she was on benzos. I used to munch on them things with my friends all the time, it's an entirely different kind of fucked up. She was just drunk off her ass, in my opinion.

[@shirmeymckamey9386]

​@@lindas5964 A soulless creature is a good description!!

[@rocketrider1405]

Good case to examine. Hard to believe.

[@caseyjones3684]

Great Detective Work. Excellent Work by PD.

[@Thomas-yw9eo]

After they're found guilty, all three should get life with no possibility of parole. This was clearly premeditated.

[@nhmooytis7058]

When I lived in the Bay Area people in the early 2000s were dropping cement blocks in cars from overpasses.

[@timmy5948]

Can you please add a neon sign in the shape of a cactus 🌵 to your background? I think it would make a fine addition to your collection. 💚 Keep em coming Dr. G.

[@jerryh2954]

The same happened to me in the early 2000s in San Diego. My windshield exploded while driving southbound in my work truck on the 163 approaching the 8. Suddenly, a 2 x 3in hole appeared in the windshield at head level on the driver's side but nothing penetrated into the cab. I remember seeing nothing, then a fog of glass particles filled the cab and glistened in the morning sunlight, almost in slow motion. My eyes protected by my sunglasses I began checking my body for damage, I'm alive, and continued toward my exit traveling at 75mph. Holy shit, my heart was beating fast! I thought that something must have bounced off the roadway but thought it was unusual that I didn't see the bounce happen. Later the company owner sent a repair truck to replace the glass while I worked my job in an SD highrise doing my daily grind as an electrician. It was months later that I found out that people were throwing rocks onto the expressways here and someone had been struck but I can't be sure of the extent of the damages. I got lucky (yet again). I'm alive.

[@farmcat3198]

Throwing 6lb. rocks isn't 'mischief'.

[@andreasrau2161]

Good evening, Dr. Grande! Unfortunately, incidents such as these are common and usually remain open and unsolved cases. Usually, they occur when people thrown rocks off of bridges over streets, expressways and thruways, and the scumbags (if caught, which is rare) claim that they didn't mean to hurt anyone. Frequently, the scumbags are children or teenagers, and, if caught, rarely do much, if any, time. At least in Rochester, New York. Fortunately, scumbags usually have cell-phones with which they share their experiences with others, which can be used for their apprehension. Yes, they wanted to cause destruction. And, if it leads to fatalities, should earn them good, several decades-long stretches in a hell-hole of a prison. Now, THAT'S entertainment! Thanks for sharing.

[@andreasrau2161]

And bearhugs to you, Dr. Grande!

[@Richy.Boi.]

Loving the snappy ‘blinged’ up new set señor Grande 👍

[@richvail7551]

I hope the judge watches this video. Cause I certainly agree with your perspective. A murder should be treated as such no matter the object that’s used to cause the death.

[@jeffha4057]

I love the new studio for one of the hardest working KZbinrs out there!

[@elosoguapo8137]

I did my share of dumbass dangerous things as a kid, but never did I think it would be alright to throw rocks at cars. These are some very dangerous and disturbed kids.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Such a sad case & infuriating. I drove that area when I lived there. Nice new background. Great analysis again. Thanks Dr G😊💝💝

[@rodneyhamilton2562]

Dr. Grande should give his analysis in the court trials during closing arguments.

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybod -- Holy Crap look at the curtains!

[@Moon_Metty]

Well, it's curtains for Alexa Bartell.

[@BigZebraCom]

@@Moon_Metty oh wow! well-done!

[@lisasaims3007]

No interior decorator needed 🧐

[@LethoHali]

How absolutely tragic 😢. Ps. Lovely setup! Almost missed it. Thanks to reading comments 😅.

[@stt5v2002]

Wow, I heard about this but I didn’t realize so many cars were hit. It looks like these guys were not planning to stop until they killed someone.

[@mycb1993]

Love the background, very much matches YOURE vibe 😊

[@bohenriksson2330]

Total scumbags that should not be in society. Life, maybe with a possibility of parole in many decades!

[@daily.trades]

This guy is way underrated!!!!!

[@loiskondo8349]

Not a brain among the three of them! Thank you for your analysis of this crime!

[@jbrown8601]

Evil

[@DottieMinerva]

Hi Dr. Grande! Could you cover the case of Chloe Stein? She was thought to be abducted but was located and charged with faking it. She hadn’t been going to school for a year and a half and it’s speculated that was why she did this.

[@011silbermond]

These types of undirected faceless crimes stir me up. It´s connected to a feeling of helplessness and "it can happen at anytime" state. Being hit by whatever in the passing is a method to avoid responsibilty and shows extreme cowardiness and lack of impulse control when you think the target is an easy victim. I guess this type of crime comes from people with deep devaluation of like you said human in general, an extreme behaviour that forms in people who probably feeel themselves as the victim and failure in society.

[@WinkLinkletter]

This happened to my parents in Oakland in the 70's but luckily the cinder block that was lobbed off the overpass hit in front of their van and tore out the undercarriage. Half a second earlier and it would have been tragic.

[@paschallhouston]

I remember a case some teens male a d female removed stop signs from an intersection a d someone was killed by an 18 wheeler I believe. Judge gave them life in prison. They were crying during the verdict but remember thinking what did you think was going to happen Jagoffs? Someone did that in my hometown during construction and an lady crashed. They never found who did it. They probably go about their lives and like what they see in the mirror. Sad.

[@critters16]

I'm so sorry for this dear young lady & her family and friends. I hope these men get life in prison for the murder and attempted murders.

[@flyprincess69]

Sad story. My heart goes out to the victims and Alexas family. The fact they went back and took a trophy picture should get the life in prison. But being Colorado is a blue state, they’ll be out in 30 days.

[@GoGreen1977]

You obviously have no clue. I assure you that these kids will be facing very serious legal consequences. Better to seem to be an idiot than making a comment and removing all doubt.

[@stancexpunks]

I know that was an exaggeration but really? 30 days? That’s so unrealistic. Since when do blue states give lenient sentences for murder?

[@wendiwonderly1419]

When I was growing up in rural Pennsylvania we had.19 and 20 year old men hiding in a field and throwing garbage on passing cars. The one guy had kids at home. The police made an estimate where they were hiding and got the farmer to spread a couple feet of manure in that spot. They didn’t come back

[@KisDraga]

I found my friend with the find my phone app when he never came home after saying he was heading back around 7pm. He wouldn't answer his phone so After midnight I got worried tried to drive around to see if I could find him.. after an hour and a half it occurred to me to ping his phone with the find my phone "app" from his ipad... and it worked. the closest thing to the pings map that came up was the police station (for a moment I was afraid it meant he was dead in a ditch in a field NEAR the jailhouse,) so I called and they confirmed he was there. Got a DUI and wasn't allowed to leave unless someone sober picked him up but He was too embarrassed to call. I can only imagine alexas friend's terror of finding her.

These are the cases which challenge my views against the death penalty... Thanx, Dr. Grande!!

[@enngee2339]

I know this isn't how the system works but in my mind, it doesn't matter whose stone killed Alexa. They engaged in the same malicious act together.

[@stacinaturenuts9060]

I remember a semi-truck driver being killed by a brick thrown from an overpass in the 80's. He got murder charges.

[@phoenixmerridian9119]

Lookin Faaaancy A nice distraction from the fact that I have a new reason to be afraid to drive