METABOLIC ADAPTATION | Layne Norton | Real Bodybuilding Podcast Ep.73

[@nickcustodi592]

Man you have a gift for interviewing. I’m in agreement with Ian Vailliere that you should do the commentating for the O or have some role in it (like speaking to competitors post show or something). You’re a great active listener and communicate extremely well with the people you bring on. All the best to you Fouad

[@FouadAbiad]

Thank you!

[@stevo6080]

You know its a good day when Fouad drops a podcast with our favourite anti-bullshit science geek who likes to lift weights

[@sloh722]

"Show me one person who has recomped to an awesome physique." -Amen. Bulking and cutting is the most efficient way to progress.

[@FouadAbiad]

@@phatbastard2026 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@sloh722]

@@phatbastard2026 Bulking doesn't mean you have to go over 17% body fat. People will make the fastest progress alternating between lean mass gaining and fat loss phases (e.g. 8% and then bulk up to 12-15%, then cut back down, repeat). Unless someone is a newb, coming back from a layoff, or on PED's, staying the same bodyweight will usually just result in little to no progress.

[@ryandegroot22]

@@phatbastard2026 In order to grow u need to get to higher bodyweight so your body can adapt to being bigger. It needs a push. It doesn't want to grow muscle. The goal is to gain but not become a fat mess. I sit at 262. My life went to shit when I was 230lbs. I gained weight and I got kinda fat up to 270lbs but cut fat and I now have a better look at a higher weight than I did. My body wants to stay there because I made it adjust. Do you know how long it would take to gain 40lbs if it was lean mass???

[@stevo6080]

@@phatbastard2026 must be a greg doucette sub

[@kylejasonpt]

Why do people think 15% body fat is fat? If you way 200lbs that's 20lbs to lose and you're 5% and PEALED

[@theironforce3000]

This interview with Layne was a little over 2 hours - I am PERFECTLY OK with this. Solid topics with a fantastic no BS approach, as only Layne can deliver. Thanks Fouad!

[@30pipeliner]

Fouad this podcast never ceases to amaze sir. I literally did more cardio because I was so into this interview and fuckin hate cardio lol. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@FouadAbiad]

Lol

[@Brant_Dunn]

I did an extra 10 minutes this morning, then kept listening while I cooked breakfast. Great episode

[@yushy5816]

I know some people aren't big fans of Layne, but he's got great info and experience, just tells it like it is.

[@GudMarty]

@Justin Tooley he blocked me like 10 years ago for making fun of him lifting weights lol. He gets HYPED up though. It’s great comedy. “YOU WILL NOT DESTROY ME!!” 😂😂

[@GudMarty]

@Justin Tooley yeah he can get kinda moody on people is my point though

[@ItaMuscle]

I don't like him at all,he overcomplicates things.

[@vatsvatsal]

His content is pretty good

[@IrritatedOnion]

only thing i dont like about him is how he goes on so many tangents and drawing out personal stories that aren't related to the question/subject, but other than that he's awesome.

[@Its.Llanos]

You know what you need - you need John Meadows, Gregg Ducette, Layne Norton (and anyone else you see fit), on one episode to discuss/challenge all the 'Bro/Pro-Science' facts being discussed here. :)

[@ryandegroot22]

Noooo Gregg!

[@crazykorean2268]

No Greg. Hearing him talk legit makes me enraged

[@Its.Llanos]

@@crazykorean2268 hahaha! Yeah, you’re right.

[@ryandegroot22]

@@crazykorean2268 I used to watch him but he flip flopped so much and acted like only his way works. He's very closed minded. His voice is also annoying af lol

[@crazykorean2268]

@@ryandegroot22 it's the voice!

[@stoph8n24]

The overtime you're putting in for content is amazing! Keep em coming!

[@savnik_nutrition_fitness8321]

Awesome Interview Fouad! I followed Layne during my 1st natural competition and this podcast is definitely #1 on KZbin

[@JonathanRoyer]

Fouad and Layne have great chemistry 🧪 Fouad is a great host

[@keenanbaldree6888]

TIME TO TAKE THEM NOTES BOYS!!! 📝 and the 10 females who watch this as well!!

[@bellydanza85]

Lol!

[@rananapier8424]

Lol the likes are from the females for acknowledging they’re here

[@andyjerram936]

Literally the best guy to listen to when it comes to nutrition, easy to listen to, no bullshit AND backs it up by walking the walk. Great interview as always Fouad.

[@Rikindim]

Fouad, please don't stop. Your content is outrageously good, this was such a good interview.

[@giovannigiorgio8664]

Layne’s the man thanks Fouad another awesome show

[@hussein1511]

Hey Hoss. Bring him back again on the podcast, please. What a great episode. Thanks Hoss.

[@RZFitnessTV]

I'm liking Layne and enjoying his work a bit more these days. He seems to be in a good space. I hope his business endeavors go well for him!

[@EnglishrevisionLibya]

Thanks Fouad and Layne what really made this more interesting and beautiful is the natural reaction of Fouad when he realizes he had experienced that thing. So informative...

[@peterdeveros1356]

He's so likable and knowledgeable, I knew listening to him I would learn a ton

[@benpowers5942]

It’s cool that you have Layne on the podcast. Good to see the mutual respect between you two

[@RR-lk5fo]

Yasssssssss another RBP I know alotta people blow smoke out the you know but I honestly when checking you tube everyday this is all I'm looking for to watch is your channel cause it's simply REAL,HELPFUL in many ways for myself and I've learned so much from all your videos KNOWLEDGE thanks Fouad☝️💯👌🤙

[@FouadAbiad]

🙏🏽

[@teodoroleal18]

Automatically liked video

[@insert6190]

didn't even notice I did too until I saw your comment lol

[@seanmurphy6136]

Stan Efferding or Larry wheels would be awesome on the podcast

[@ryandegroot22]

Stan was already on

[@seanmurphy6136]

@@ryandegroot22 oh wow I missed that one. Thanks for telling me man.

[@ryandegroot22]

@@seanmurphy6136 no problem man

[@nickfeeney3760]

Great episode, Layne Norton and you Fouad Abiad provide a ton of great information. Definitely one of my favourite guests! 👌🏻

[@Kevin-21]

​Ask Layne about Growth Hormone and why he says it doesn't build muscle....throwback to the old Fouad an Luke arguments..lol

[@ericszaja4371]

Great episode, got me through my cardio today. I have to admit, that I was never much of a fan of Layne as I always found him a bit arrogant, however from seeing him on your podcast now a couple times, he has grown on me. Really enjoyed it, loved the info and I'm actually a fan now. You are doing a great job Fouad, easy smooth conversation/interviews with people, bring out the best in them.

[@lukesplanet]

Great content! These podcasts are getting better and better each time.

[@kaylaparker6425]

Holy cow he’s long winded. You ask a question and the story got so long I forgot what you even asked him. He does have a lot of good information though and it was still worth the watch

[@workinprogress8029]

Yo Fr lol

[@briancavanaugh7604]

Seeing a pro for the first time: I trained at the same gym as Art Atwood when I was 16. I remember him talking in the locker room about trying to make his arms bigger as they were a "weak point." Mind blowing mass for sure. Great content fellas thank you!

[@JustenHarden]

Fouad with the the 🔥 guest list these days

[@Bodybuildingleague]

Passive income is easier if you own real estate, stocks, bonds, or non controlling shares / equity. And that is if it is a good investment.

[@rylanholder423]

Always great to see you have layne on for us to learn all kinds of info Fouad you that man!

[@garrickbaylie3721]

I have always know of Layne Norton but never took the time to really listen to his ideals on diet and training. I am always looking for new ways to diet and learn my body so I am trying his app for the next 3 months. I have a show coming up in 5 months so I want to use his app to lose a fair amount of body weight and fat. I really can't afford a coach during these times so this sounds like the next best thing. Curious to see where it will take me... Fouad....Thank you again for a wonderful podcast. One thing I love about your podcast is that your open to listening to various ideals in health and fitness. Not just bodybuilding. Do you plan to have any women athletes on your show? I would LOVE to see Iris Kyle!!! Maybe DLB? Thanks again brother for doing your thing. Stay safe and healthy!!!

[@mooncracker5603]

How is it going? :)

[@vatsvatsal]

This was fantastic. Keep the great work man. This channel is getting awesome day by day

[@dietgainz7951]

Layne is the best guest when it comes to knowledge

[@-._SHK_.-]

Damn nice! Glad to see you having Layne on for the science based bro knowledge !

[@dmetti5243]

Layne is the man. Just a wealth of knowledge, and I’m all for it

[@mawsome_]

You had mentioned this in your last Live video of the British GP haha I didn't think you'd actually have him on. This is great.

[@FouadAbiad]

It’s his second time on. I like Laynes take on things even if I don’t agree 100% of the time.

[@gregtrombly5812]

This was awesome!!! Thx for doing these !!! Lots of info !! Thx for Sharing about yourself and being so transparent not a lot of people in this world like you thank you my man much love/respect

[@campo852]

Such a great show! I love all of your episodes but this was such a great episode that explained a lot of things super clearly!!

[@adeanmoses4086]

That rag analogy for fat loss is the most apt I’ve ever heard. Brilliant man👌

[@jiviteshsharma1021]

Foaud is so me, a dirty breakfast fucks up my whole day, immediate off day lmaoo

[@peaches9048]

If I fuck up my breakfast I find it difficult to get on track. Have to start the day right

[@jiviteshsharma1021]

@@peaches9048 all of us are meatheads lmaooo

[@rutheshelman2483]

If u eat a shitty breakfast it can actually boost ur workout gains if ur trying to put on muscle. Obv if your not doing it alot but bunch cal. Isn't always a bad thing

[@jessiesisto2038]

Foaid ur the best at asking so many questions I've been wanting to ask these questions about the app.. I watch his wife Holly talk about the app all the time but I've had so many questions..I love how if u go over ur calories it will adjust the week for you so i can still hit my average...so interesting.. thank u yet again another amazing podcast

[@Brant_Dunn]

Fouad: I don't wanna keep you on for too long... ** goes another hour ** hahaha classic Fouad :)

[@FouadAbiad]

LOL

[@PieterPienaarGolf]

I have learnt so much through these Podcasts! thanks you so much Fouad! Keep it'em coming!

[@jejejeeeedfdeffgd]

Another "thank you" for you fouad for all this free content

[@franksandbeans82]

Hell yeah can't wait to watch this one. 2 hours of layne

[@dzzhang6485]

Bro + science = pro

[@ultrafloss492]

Bro: pro + science = Pro (however, I'm not sure if you are aware of the 'truthful joke' regarding pro-science / prosplit)

[@tbtb7084]

One of my favorite episodes

[@melissameyer6254]

This was such a fantastic podcast!! So much great information!!!

[@C-24-Brandan]

Real Bodybuilding Podcast on the TV in the home gym just in time for a shoulder sesh 👍💪🏋️

[@Flexarot]

Have always liked Layne awesome podcast I'm watching all 2+ hours multiple times. Also getting the app and testing it for a month before getting a year, I'm all over the place dieting hope it straightens me out!

[@godsgiftto3arth]

best BB podcast by far. thanks fouad!

[@jackjordan2527]

Fouad you don’t fucking miss. Educating the young guys! Appreciate it.

[@SportsInNYC]

Layne the Brain!

[@Damian_Materowski]

My favourite podcast provider hosts my favourite science based, anti BS knowledge provider - is it Christmas already? I love Layne's easy for simple man approach and knowing literally every and each study out there - this guy has head like bloody encyclopaedia :)

[@emilyyates759]

10 years ago I was 285lbs and very unhealthy at 5’4”... not a lot lot movement going on... I can confirm that the set point does change (or atleast did for me) and became around 175lbs that my body tends to love to be at. It was a natural weight loss and I changed from adult powerlifting 5 years ago into competitive bodybuilding. So yes, the set points do change according to my experience

[@ChadCilli]

This is a very different message than Layne expressed in your episode with Chris Tuttle. In that episode Layne was saying you shouldn’t let your body fat get over 15% while bulking.

[@joejones8146]

Would you consider getting Mike Israetel on? Very knowledgable on the topics covered here as well as training minutia/fundamentals. I think getting him on your podcast would be particularly good because you have a way to make complex stuff more palatable, while other podcasts he has been on can be too technical

[@ttvttv1690]

Normally not into the nutrition as off-season is life. However, I did enjoy this.

[@mandose7en]

This is perfectly timed 👌👌 thanks Hoss 🙏

[@maxbgr]

Holy shit this is exactly what I needed to hear right now. I've gained 8kgs in the past 2 months since I started my bulk. Everything is amazing but I've started gaining some fat(obviously) and this made me have second thoughts wether I should slow down or go into mini cut but after hearing this I am going to commit and whatever happens, happens. We diet it down later. Thanks, Hoss!

[@traintothemax]

1kg a week is kind of a bit much tho depending on your start point. If you want a long bulk I’d drop a few hundred cals honestly

[@maxbgr]

@@traintothemax How I do it currently is: I try to hold on to a weight, let's say 81kgs for 7-10 days and then when it stabilizes I push the calories a bit. I am not going to lie, it does bother me a bit seeing the fat show up and I do plan to slow down a bit. My goal was to stay in a "lean bulk" or more like slow and steady bulk till February, trying not to get too much fat and then slowly shred the fat but we will see.

[@mariodelorenzo9092]

Layne mentioned Eric Helms. Fouad, would you consider getting him on for more natural bodybuilding content?

[@kdo2487]

Hey Fouad, I was also diagnosed with scar tissue on the kidney filters aka. Glomerulus and turns out to be FSGS disease. That was 3 years ago and im still eating moderate to high protein diet. I had 15g/24h protein leaked into my urine and now its steady like 0.05-0.10 g/24h. Im gonna still eat >1.8g protein per kg bw because i don’t have any issue and my GFR isn’t falling down. Only thing nefrologists say to me to skip the protein powder and forbid me to take creatine…

[@punkandlifting]

Oh fuck yes. My Friday morning at work is set

[@maxonekin8772]

Try a shake with the following ingredients every day. Goji berries, hemp seeds, spirulina, chlorella, maka, lakanto Munk fruit, coconut water, coconut cream, Himalayan salt, cinnamon.

[@carlosl.garcia2745]

Great freakin podcast guys!💪🧠

[@nrw7272]

The previous one with Tuttle was a good watch, buzzing 🙏

[@CVisions]

This dude is so damn smart

[@turnerburner922]

@Surb Singh all your friends PHD? Doubtful

[@newbiegains6525]

Hoss, are you doing another group in January? My car got hit and run just days before Halloween and wiped my bank account clean. Would love to sign up for the new year 💪🏻

[@crazykorean2268]

Hope u r not injured

[@davidpena1495]

When I am not training, I am fasting and when I am training, I am eating. At least that is the mindset.

[@positivevibez328]

Does anyone know wat the app is called,?

[@FouadAbiad]

Carbon diet coach

[@The90kg]

grindr

[@alexandrudumitru2435]

To the folks who are trying to build muscle&burn fat in the same time, please stop. I've been trying to do this for years in the past with little progress or none at all. Bulk up(below 15-18% BF), once you get past 15-18% BF cut down or just go back to maintenance for some time. Also, do cardio even when bulking. If you are natural like me, or using PED's, doesnt matter, bulk up and then cut down. Stay below 18%BF. Do cardio even when bulking(2-3 times a week,steady state), eat clean, take your supplements and lift heavy. Consistency and patience. AND. GENETICS PLAY A BIG ROLE. Dont give yourself expectentions you cant achieve. Look at yourself and stop looking around at others. Take what you have and make it better.

[@BostjanBavcon]

You should get Alan on the podcast! He's a pool of knowledge!

[@josiahwilliams6646]

Man this content is fire!

[@chrismetternich3332]

Great podcast today!

[@FaheemRashid]

ok... I am buying the app...

[@inhibilator5536]

Wow it’s amazing You got LN on Your podcast 🙇‍♀️ 🙇 🎁 :)))

[@jonathannoerr5997]

Ya Know What...!? A Podcast or BBB or just Another Episode with Layne Norton & Guy Cisternino?!!! They Have SIMILAR Reactive qualities the might be FUN!!!?

[@fk8669]

Meadows did a video yesterday saying people grow best at 8-12%. Justin recommends 12%. Aceto says 10%. Like everything else there is a large genetic component. Dante has a thread over at Professional Muscle called "I love this stuff! Absolutely love it!" and talks about how Kevin Jordan made big jumps in stage weight getting pretty fluffy. BUT...Kevin Jordan had the genetics and gear to get a great muscle return from that. I think the approach one takes will depend on how their own individual body will handle it. I side with John, Justin, and Chris because the other way did not result in a favorable muscle return. However, someone else can absolutely benefit from doing it the other way and if they can, they should.

[@FouadAbiad]

Most people as in almost all pros bulk and cut. Not to mention there is a huge difference between 8 and 12 percent. 8 percent is lean, 12 percent is not.

[@gibsonatorhb6691]

Look at Antoines last off season weight vs stage physique

[@CaptainTodd]

Bought the Carbon diet app halfway thru the podcast!!!

[@meka-eelpather8485]

Question. Did the pure deficit group, the group that dieted straight through, do the remaining 16 weeks at maintenance to keep the total study accurate? From my understanding, if a person is dieting and eating food provided for them which is exactly what they need for longer you will see greater results. Let me know, please.

[@punkandlifting]

Proud user of Carbon Diet Coach here

[@andrewcarrier6586]

I request you get Eric Helms on the podcast

[@crazykorean2268]

Want to know his reason on full body 5 times a week

[@issathalgy6827]

So fouad I’ve lost about 150 lbs, I went from 345lbs down to 190lbs and built up to about low 200’s presently, I lost the weight 10 years ago and kept it off since

[@FouadAbiad]

Amazing!

[@kileNoe]

I've been using carbon for a few weeks now. Its been great but recently I have been trying to hit macros, but the calorie counter is saying I'm over the calories although my macros are below the target...

[@kileNoe]

I feel like the app is double counting fiber or some shit...

[@bastiano2939]

Thanks for having BioLayne on he is cool

[@smarttrainingnutrition1046]

Fouad some anecdotal evidence for you on the new body set point. I started off obese at 243 pounds bf% unknown but would guess very high, waist measurement was 40",no muscle, no lifting at all eat junk and drank loads of alcohol. Did a PSMF diet down to 190 pounds in 12 weeks while starting lifting. Been lifting and paying attention to what I eat for 6-7 years and my new settling point is around 200-210 pounds with some muscles, bf% now maybe around 20% waist measurement is 34"

[@withrowwrites8331]

do you have to track macros to stay within that range?

[@samyakingale4391]

This will be awesome

[@ultrafloss492]

Oh damn, thanks in advance!!!!

[@ronin_9]

Hey Fouad, how about a podcast with Josh Bryant ?

[@johnhunt3950]

Unfortunately carbondiet app isn't available for huawei phones :/

[@analogcrunch4716]

That app looks sweet.

[@glennbishopbishthemagish]

The science of fat loss and why humans are fat has changed over the past years. There is a history of the plant based diet, carbs and the history of the government dietary guidelines AKA the food pyramid. The history of the low fat high carb diet, and when people started to gain fat, should not be ignored. Eat less and exercise more in my opinion has nothing to do with nutrition, and I call the starvation diet. When I have done this, and I have had years of experience doing it, eat less and exercise more, my body lost fat and muscle. Then because of the lack of nutrition because I cut calories, I would binge eat. Vince Gironda in my op[inion was right when he wrote in his book, "Unleashing The Wild Physique", That fat will only be burned as fuel in the absence of carbohydrates.

[@HumpinandPumpin]

Layne gets not enough credibility and respect for the free stuff he drops on various channels. He might trigger a few people here and there, he might also not be genetically "gifted" in todays world of fake nattys but oh boy, this man is knowledgable as hell.

[@jessiesisto2038]

Epic podcast he's always refreshling full of knowledge and applied it in such a non asshole way even though he is so smart

[@brennenconlee437]

Hahaha I love bodybuilding but bodybuilders are nuts sometimes 😂 “I used to purposely make my food taste shittier so it would take longer to eat.” “I used chopsticks a lot” “Oooh that’s a good idea. Rice would take a long time”

[@danielcolak]

So glad I didn't skip the into...

[@Fazlifts]

Would be good to get Dr Mike Israetel on here. PhD, enhanced, 220lbs lean at 5'6 and also has a very popular diet app.

[@SGGaming1]

Never clicked anything so fast. Nanoseconds

[@blakersquakers]

Fooad is much better when hes not on a contest prep- the man gets quite dark during contest prep