"What Used to be Fraud is Now Alternative Medicine": Doc-to-Doc with Steve Novella

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Dr. Steven Novella is a faculty member of the Yale School of Medicine, a practicing neurlogist, and the host of the wildly popular podcast "The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe", where he and his group of "skeptical rogues" discuss scientific topics with an eye on calling out woo, flim-flam, and hokum.
As a physician, Dr. Novella has spoken out against homeopathy, accupuncture, and other alternative medicine modalities, based on a lack of robust evidenciary support and prior plausability.
I had the chance to speak with Dr. Novella in the studios at Yale. We discussed a wide variety of topics ranging from the public's view of science and scientists, to interacting with patients who hold non-scientific beliefs.

[@GH-oi2jf]

The alternative to “medicine” is “not medicine.”

[@Xen0Phanes]

Thank you Steven Novella for your tireless effort to help inform the public about science and skepticism. With so much information out there its getting harder to sift through the bs.

[@kbld1]

read this: bolenreport.com/top-pseudo-skeptic-steven-novella-humiliated-on-national-tv-and-it-was-fun-to-watch/

[@Xen0Phanes]

I feel dirty after reading this heap of garbage. Why did you want me to read this piece of trash, kbld1?

[@gordonwallis7275]

He is a neurologist. Has he ever heard Phlugers law of symmetry? Well here is a practical use of it. I’ve used this application to take out pain instantly on hundreds. But what I do is considered fraud, placebo. Fuk those people. They know everything already. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWOcnGiGl8yhjtk

[@njb1126]

Wikipedia lays it out quite clearly Loose terminology may also be used to suggest meaning that a dichotomy exists when it does not, e.g., the use of the expressions "Western medicine" and "Eastern medicine" to suggest that the difference is a cultural difference between the Asiatic east and the European west, rather than that the difference is between evidence-based medicine and treatments that do not work.[9]

[@acedia4453]

Hope chiropractors are watching this. Those fools think they can fix anything with a bit of dragged out stretching and twisting.

[@dr.stephenflorezdc6358]

Have you read the book, “what really makes you Ill?” Read it then realize the real quackery are the lies/assumptions the medical profession has been spreading since the dawn of Germ theory! And yes Germ theory is an assumption that has never been scientifically proven. And your tight we can improve things with adjusting. Which is much better then poisoning you with toxic drugs!

[@johnjobber2219]

It is pure quackery

[@bridaw8557]

Yes. If a person really wants to do the best for their orthopedic concerns, A PT is the best you can get. It’s evidence based practice designed to help the patient help themselves.

[@ctpaul1261]

Wish we had more doctors like Steven Novella. I also highly recommend his Great Courses DVDs on "Medical Myths".

[@ChrisJones-dg9xn]

You're not a real troll

[@kbld1]

This guy is a paid quack and a fraud, and you might want to read the following. bolenreport.com/top-pseudo-skeptic-steven-novella-humiliated-on-national-tv-and-it-was-fun-to-watch/

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@kbld1 This guy is a paid quack and a fraud, and you might want to read the following. www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/bolen.html

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@PsychoMancy yes CTPaul12 might not be a real doctor

[@williamssarah4227]

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[@erik9817]

I recall Dawkins being a professor for public understanding of science!

[@wilfordmurray]

Thank you for producing this video. It should be mandatory for most new patients to view before the doc accepts them as new patients.

[@eboronkay]

God forbid!

[@dr.stephenflorezdc6358]

And you should also watch the video on, “what really makes you I’ll?” To see the fraud perpetrated upon us by the medical community.

[@kennethmoore3783]

Great talk. Should be required viewing for all students. “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.” “No one ever went broke underestimating the taste [or intelligence] of the American public.” HL Mencken

[@privettoli]

America is not alone in this problem

[@16960734]

I love this

[@lucianene7741]

wow cult members get triggered

[@mugogrog]

There is a real need for content like this globally at this point. Alternative medicine was a 108.32 billion USD business in 2022 and it's growing by something like 20 percent per year. It's hardly regulated at all and it's completely full of scams. The sad thing is when you take the time to prove to people that the thing they're about to spend 1000 dollars on is cheap chinese electronics worth 10 bucks they don't thank you, they get angry at you for ruining their "energy" (speaking from experience).

[@TurdBoi-tf5lf]

Bro you ruined my energy with this comment. Now how would I heal

[@mugogrog]

@@TurdBoi-tf5lf I take that as a compliment, thanks bro :)

[@christines3638]

I think that alternative medicine is so popular because it requires some sort of input from the patient. When all the patient has to do is take a pill and wait, it turns them into a passive participant. People tend to want some kind of role in treatment. They want to be involved. A personal example is infertility treatments. My job was to show up at the clinic. People took blood, gave shots, and performed tests. I didn't even have to have relations with my husband. They performed IUIs. It made me feel helpless. I had no part in this. I tried to gain some control over the situation. I wanted to participate in the process. I tried special diets. I took royal bee jelly. Acupuncture. Yoga. Did they help? Yes. But not in the way you may think. All they did was make me feel like I was doing something. It wasn't real. They did nothing. But at least I didn't feel helpless anymore.

[@kbld1]

He's supported by Big Pharma and they stay in business by pushing allopathic medicine and drugs. Surprise.

[@nohorasims656]

Yes I do homeopathy and it works well.

[@lfidarraga]

@@nohorasims656 homeopathy is a proven fraud. I'm not against alternative medicine but homeopathy is a joke to common sense.

[@nohorasims656]

@@lfidarraga I've used it on children and on adults and it's worked better than drugs that are addicting and bad for your body. Its nor herbal. Herbs can be poison. Homeopathy either works or does nothing even if you take wrong remedy. I know this because my 5 year old got ahold of a bunch of my remedies and took alot cuss they're kind of sweet. No effect at all. But when my baby got very sick could hardly keep breast milk down. The doctors did Xrays all kinds of test. She was still coughing and spitting up her milk they sent me home with a big bottle of liquid medicine Albuteral that she would gag on, didn't help. She was gonna have to be hospitalized and I was just reading a book on Homeopathy and saw one of the descriptions of one remedy went and bought it little pellet under tongue symptoms stopped quickly as if she was never sick. I was sold and have studied it and used it for over 25years. You cannot tell me it doesnt work.

[@lfidarraga]

@@nohorasims656 I can't agree with you. Both we can both agree that drinking more water is good for health and also the placebo effect plays an important role.

[@Specko]

Yay for Steve!

[@theowl3756]

This site is not interested in an honest discourse. I just posted two obvious examples of complete failure of the so-called Science based medicine, which were treated successfully with other approaches. My comment was immediately deleted...LOL

[@elgeneral5279]

God bless you, Steve. You're doing good work.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

@@tamaracktour Yes, yes. Neither do I. Neither do most atheists & sciencebasedmedicine advocates.

[@titan133760]

@@tamaracktour And not believing in God makes him morally questionable because? I fail to see your logic

[@blanchy]

Presence in a doctor's office only proves that people cant write prescriptions. My naturopath says I have the largest penis, I trust him over the "doctor" that told me to put on pants and leave the lobby before the police arrived.

[@AlexSage]

My dear teacher =))

[@briannahall7558]

“Buy into your treatment recommendations.” Sounds sketchy

[@rebelquadronfpv1065]

Skeptics guide to the universe.

[@farmur9680]

Correction, it's PSEUDOskeptics guide to the universe.

[@BentDoorFrame]

@@farmur9680 give me the difference from a skeptic and pseudoskeptic i understand the difference between science and pseudoscience, but have never heard your phrase...

[@farmur9680]

@@BentDoorFrame Very well. Here is the list between pseudoskeptics and skeptics: True Skeptics / Open-Minded Skeptics : Questions everything and takes nothing on faith, even from cherished established institutions. Asks questions to try to understand new things and are open to learning about them. Applies critical examination and inquiry to all sides, including their own. Withholds judgment and does not jump to rash conclusions. Seeks the truth and considers it the highest aim. Thinks in terms of possibilities rather than in preserving fixed views. Fairly and objectively weighs evidence on all sides. Acknowledges valid convincing evidence rather than ignoring or denying it. Possess solid sharp common sense and reason. Are able to adapt their paradigms to new evidence and update their hypothesis to fit the data. When all conventional explanations for a phenomenon are ruled out, are able to accept paranormal ones. Accepts that there are mysteries and revels in trying to understand them. Views science as a tool and methodology, not as a religion or authority to be obeyed. Understands the difference between the scientific process and the scientific establishment. Acknowledges that the scientific establishment is subject to politics, corruption, control, censorship and suppression, as all human based institutions are - and therefore must be critically examined and scrutinized, rather than taken on faith, especially in the light of contrary evidence to their claims. Will admit they are wrong when the evidence calls for it. Pseudoskeptics such as sciencebasedmedicine such as Steven novella and all the other so-called skeptics: Does not question anything from established non-religious institutions, but takes whatever they say on faith and demands that others do the same. Does not ask questions to try to understand new things, but judges them by whether they fit into orthodoxy. Applies "critical thinking" only to that which opposes orthodoxy or materialism, but never to the status quo itself. Immediately judges as false and debunks anything that contradicts their paradigm. Are not interested in truth, evidence or facts, only in defending their views. Cannot think in terms of possibilities, but sees their paradigms as fixed and constant. Are willing to lie and deceive to discredit their opponents. Automatically dismisses and denies all data that contradicts materialism and orthodoxy. Are judgmental and quick to draw conclusions about things they know little or nothing about. Scoffs and ridicules what they oppose instead of using objective analysis and examination. When faced with evidence or facts they can't refute, uses semantics, word games and denial to try to obfuscate the issue. Unable to adapt their paradigms to new evidence, and denies data which doesn't fit into them. When all conventional explanations for an unexplainable phenomenon are ruled out, are still not able to accept paranormal ones. Dislikes mystery and uncertainty, and insist that all unknown phenomena must have a mundane explanation. Views the scientific establishment as a religion and authority to be taken on faith and never questioned or challenged. Does not understand the difference between the scientific process/methodology and the scientific establishment institution. Assumes that the scientific establishment is objective and unbiased, and free of politics, corruption, control, censorship and suppression for no other reason than blind faith in authority. Will never admit that they are wrong no matter what, regardless of evidence.

[@BentDoorFrame]

@@farmur9680 I suppose I could have looked it up lol, thanks for taking the time to do that. I understand what it means now.

[@farmur9680]

@@BentDoorFrame You are most welcome!

[@elijahjns81]

Big fan of Dr Steven Novella.

[@lawrenegummy4736]

Traditional chinese in a nutshell. Seahorses don't cure erectile dysfunction.

[@MortyCJ]

TCM does. 😅

[@nelsontragura1441]

1.65 subscribers kekW.

[@johnjobber2219]

Chiropractic is the greatest quackery with no scientific basis.

[@MortyCJ]

Oh homeopath - bottles of water sold with jacked up prices - come very, very close! 😅

[@tomboytwig]

Job 13:4, "But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value".

[@jamesbolton4369]

Dr. Steven Novella is a genius!!!

[@peterharris4386]

Yes, a genius at disingenuous claptrap and deception.

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

Remind me to watch this when medical errors are no longer the third leading cause of death.

[@ps.2]

Luckily, that means you can watch it now, 'cause they aren't! It's a popular myth. Also you might be interested in Dr. Gorski's article at sciencebasedmedicine.org/medical-errors-2020/ which explains where this "third leading cause of death" thing comes from and what the _real_ numbers are.

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

@bababoi baboi There are more viruses, diseases, infections, disorders, conditions, and people on pharmaceuticals than ever before, and people trust Doctors? 😂🤣😂🤣😂 Lol ya okay. Should we also respect all the cures they found and origins or causes of disease? All of which is not a single one. The number of over respected and over paid “doctors” is retarded considering most are egoist, can’t admit fault, lie, manipulate, and deceive.

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

@@ps.2 Here is a confession by Big Pharma themselves on NIH National Institute of Health. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25355584/

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

@bababoi baboi National Institute of Health Big Pharma confession. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25355584/ By the way go f&$k yourself.

[@mikemakuh5319]

Amen! to that sister!!!

[@privettoli]

"You can't be judgemental". I really don't mind you being judgemental towards ignorant people. You'll have enough clients from other people who respect your education and all the effort.

[@nohorasims656]

Oh yeah good it doesnt work. Listen to this guy.

[@calvinducharme]

Went to like the video... 245 likes? Then, I saw the view count--it broke my heart. The content of this video should be seen by an audience many orders of magnitude than the one it has reached so far.

[@leahprimo5988]

You can share it on your other social media platforms. I plan to.

[@koyamogodztv550]

It’s because people don’t resonate with this anymore

[@philipmullins6235]

Modern medicine is not always pure science , it also can be an art , with some medical conditions , you can consult 10 different medical doctors and get 10 different medical treatments . Compare this with a dentist , you go to a dentist with a tooth ache and you go away cured so dentistry is more pure science that many aspects of medical practice where patients don't always get a cure from a medical consultation

[@alfredhitchcock45]

You can count Ortho and Optha as pure science too, try to break your bones and have eye checkup

[@MortyCJ]

😅

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

I had a dentist I didn't like who said I needed a root canal. Two other dentists said I didn't, that it was a regular cavity and could be filled.. So I didn't get the root canal, i got a filling. She kept calling my house, for YEARS, bugging me to "come and get it done because insurance has already approved of it." So no, dentists don't always agree or have a solution. And some are more motivated by money than you'd like to think.

[@ems7623]

There are a lot of very ridiculous people in this comments section.

[@briellehunter7233]

That’s a projection

[@bwade79]

This was an oddly familiar and creepy video. 🧐 Wish I had the time to explain why. Good luck on your healing journey everyone.

[@asadjavaid847]

Then why FDA approved it? it should be stopped immediately

[@SongbirdGaming]

Look up the history of the DSHEA law, passed in 1994. Supplement companies don’t have to prove anything at all, they can market and sell products in a completely unregulated market, unless a bunch of people die from their products they can do as they please. Alternative medicine practitioners operate in a similarly unlicensed and unregulated way in much of the US. 30 different US states do not license or regulate naturopaths AT ALL. Any random person could hang out a shingle declaring themself a naturopath in one of those states, and as long as nobody complained and he didn’t kill anybody, he could get away with it and rake in the dollars for many years.

[@Noname-bs3uv]

@@SongbirdGaming you seem to know better that I do about medicine. I’m having a severe mental illness should I try a nature path is what they do scientific. Would appreciate your reply thanks

[@Slothiz]

@@Noname-bs3uv No. Seek a psychiatrist and get the proper treatment.

[@unbroken1010]

I'd be really interested in seeing him and Joe dispenza , gabor mate have a debate especially considering where Joe is on in testimonial. body's have the ability do more than we think when you're given the time.

[@bushcasa]

You can always count on the truth from this guy!

[@hosoiarchives4858]

Can he cure anything?

[@mugogrog]

@@hosoiarchives4858 No, and anyone claiming to be able to is lying to you.

[@bibichloe]

(follow up) The whole title of the song is even more precise: "Change Your Heart, Look Around You! Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime". I would emphasize "sometime"... It's been almost two decades since we stepped into the 21-st century, lol!

[@sf3708]

alternative medicine proved itself for thousand of years , unfortunately our science today is very limited

[@ambulocetusnatans]

I'm a simple man. I see Dr Steve, i click.

[@dougieh9676]

Can you say snake oil?

[@briellehunter7233]

Science is quackery

[@TheSkeptic000]

Sooooo smart. Steve hates hacks!

[@koyamogodztv550]

Science is man’s best and worst tool…indeed we have reached far and wide with it but it doesn’t have the answer to everything. The body is still an enigma to science therefore the best approach is really with an open mind to consider all

[@calebwatkins1795]

We need clones of him. The truth of logic being spread. The needle can certainly puncture a muscle and cause a recovering reaction. All that other reflexology and meridian stuff is the same as magic. I can’t believe people are gullible to believe the acupuncturist and reflexologists can feel their energy flows by touching a patient’s hand. Lmfao. What a joke! Might as well go pray to your God for a recovery.

[@drpnp]

A homework for fans of evidence-based medicine: When you come across any "robust evidence", don't forget to check who supported the study financially.. Also check whether there was any contrary "less robust" evidence reported recenty.. After doing this homework for 10 years, one may question trustworthiness of "scientific evidence" in medicine.. Prevalence of "financial evidence" is much higher than at least what we are taught in medical school.. Don't think only about pharma industry, one has to consider publication n education industries as well.. In my opinion, a doctor must use his/her own brain n experience while deciding why a patient got a disease n what could be the best drug for the patient rather than chasing "recent evidence" blindly... By the way, I am an MD doctor trained in allopathy n I have already done my homework... 😊

[@ktg1783]

You can't do trail and error in front of a patient sitting in your office. And these evidences through researches merely help you understand how human body responds to certain medicine or procedure but at the end of the day, it's you who diagnose and decide the management of the patient. As a physician yourself, I am sure that you're not holdng a copy of a FINANCIAL EVIDENCE while listening to your patient.

[@drpnp]

@@ktg1783 Exactly. A physician's brain is the most important. It is the physician's brain that helps him/her to differentiate a genuine scientific study from a study with conflict of interest.. N it is the physician's brain that has to diagnose n manage the patient..

[@mikeb5745]

Why are they so afraid of competition?

[@itheuserfirst3186]

Um, doctors are not in danger of losing work. They are swamped with it. Either you have science to back up your claims, or you don't. That's all it comes down to.

[@telsonater]

They’re not. They’re afraid that people are going to put others in danger by spreading pseudoscientific nonsense. Unlike the homeopathic industry, which is like a $36 billion industry

[@triforcekingdom5817]

you know Doc, there is such a thing as too much skepticism!!!

[@1surfer12]

Is there?

[@farmur9680]

@@1surfer12 Yep, it's called pseudoscepticism.

[@MortyCJ]

You’ve clearly never listen to Dr. Novella beyond this interview!

[@koyamogodztv550]

The mistrust in “science” and medicine didn’t correct from nothing. Innumerable reports of mistreatment, abuse and downright malpractice is the reason why alternative medicine is becoming more attractive. In life, whoever tries to monopolize an issue is usually the one with more vested interest. Biggest question here is that why don’t we integrate these alternative treatments instead of alienate them. Most of the time physicians send patients out to different specialists after another trying to find a diagnosis let alone a cure. Since people do get results from alternative medicine why not incorporate them into mainstream?

[@MortyCJ]

Simply? Because it doesn’t work! IF “alternative med” therapies worked, it would be called medicine. If they worked, it would be incorporated.

[@koyamogodztv550]

@@MortyCJ I wonder then why the alternative medicine industry is at its peak. Say that to the millions of people being helped by the therapies.

[@MortyCJ]

@@koyamogodztv550 For the same reason trepanation, blood-letting and miasma were “popular”, people are susceptible to scams when in vulnerable situations.

[@koyamogodztv550]

@@MortyCJ blood letting isn't complete quackery . Forever chemicals and minerals like to can only be removed from the body by donating blood and kr blood letting

[@mikemakuh5319]

Isn't this just new "paint job" for the same old junker better known as allopathic medicine?

[@skaterdavedownsouth]

Known as allopathic? By whom? Believers in magic. Yeah….

[@chrisb9345]

Steven Novella sticks up for David Gorski, someone who is not, in any sense of the term, a skeptic. Novella has tanked his reputation sticking up for this fraud.

[@MortyCJ]

Steven doesn’t “stick up” for Gorski’s entire world view. Especially recently, his (Steven’s) opinion has changed.

[@mannyglover]

“Mainstream Medicine... Fake Views!” Jk jk, very much not a skeptic of science conducted with healthy skepticism/the scientific method. Good video!

[@legoat8818]

i can't take overweight doctors seriously. but quick question if drugs are so healthy why healthy people can't take drugs to stay healthy???

[@MortyCJ]

What a ridiculous thing to say. Firstly, there’s less money in making healthy people healthy. And secondly, there are drugs which do that. It’s that the possible margin of improvement are small compared with risks. Also it depends on what you mean by keeping you “healthy”. Preventive medicine? People take a daily aspirin all the time to reduce any possible future heart conditions. There a whole class of drugs called nootropics. Get educated before posting stupid comments. You didn’t make the point you thought you did!

[@legoat8818]

@@MortyCJ “There are drugs that do that. It’s that the possible margin of improvement ARE SMALL” 😂😂😂 yeah taking aspirin will keep you healthy your are so intelligent lol drugs are full of side effects. Which would make them poisons. Poisons is ANY SUBSTANCE that is harmful to your body. With all those side effects with drugs sounds pretty harmful don’t you think?

[@legoat8818]

@@MortyCJ and I’m guessing you subscribe to the belief of allopathy drugs & radiation 👏 sounds so healthy. And you guys call that medicine 😂

[@MortyCJ]

@@legoat8818 “believe”? No. Rely on the most up to date studies, evidence and fact? Yes!

[@legoat8818]

@@MortyCJ oh yes studies that are constantly changing 👏

[@lat-roc9733]

terrible tie Dt Steve

[@bibichloe]

Sorry for you, DR Novella, and for other sad people like you! I would like to dedicate you a song with a wonderful message: "Change Your Heart, Look Around You" by The Korgis. If MDs are so good at what they're doing, how come that the human race is sicker than ever before?

[@wallontheroad]

You’re one uninformed, bad educated and sham infused pathetic creature. Yes, I’m full ad homined here, cause seeing shit like this just grinds my gears.

[@sharonmoock7813]

My husband and I are walking testimonials for alternative/integrative medicine. Prolo therapy with ozone. Chelation. It works!! Acupuncture can help.

[@Theslavedrivers]

You do know that a handful of vague and subjective accounts doesn't really count for anything, right?

[@kbld1]

How do you discount 3000 years of data?

[@Xen0Phanes]

kbld1 - it's called progress.

[@HypatiaK]

Although it can sanitize surfaces, when ingested ozone is toxic. Persons have died under unprofessional chelation treatment. At least acupuncture is relatively harmless although ineffectual. I urge you to look at the scientific critiques of these treatments before they kill you.

[@rich8381]

@@HypatiaK oh honey, you're tired and old. My medical Dr that has a PhD from McMaster uses chelation and ozone therapy amongst other things. Go and take your blood pressure medication so you can continue eating your cheese burgers.

[@briannahall7558]

What does the other side of science have to sell? Life? Without harm? Isn’t that what the oath is for when you become a doctor? And billions of dollars on the line? Where? You medical doctors are bought out by pharma and the tobacco industry! (but the science has changed on that one, huh? )Not trying to be rude, or hateful. Seriously something has got to give here.

[@dr.stephenflorezdc6358]

Does this supposed science based individual realize that the complete field of science whether it be physics, chemistry, biology etc. has technically all been made up by man to explain the already naturally occurring pheromone . And this all breaks down at the quantum level. So if it all breaks down and the normal laws do not apply, where then is his science based evidence?

[@skaterdavedownsouth]

Pretty sure you have no grasp of what “the quantum level” means or the value of things made up by man.

[@dr.stephenflorezdc6358]

@@skaterdavedownsouth Oh Mr. expert on ignorance and prejudice is making assumptions! Did you read the book or are you still making pronouncements on issue you can’t comprehend? What you can’t conceive of is the fact that you are the fraud. That’s what happens when you make assumptions without any as you would say scientific evidence! So let’s see your scientific evidence.

[@farmur9680]

@@dr.stephenflorezdc6358 Hello there! Basically people like Steven Novella and the others are complete pseudosceptics, I have challenged Steven plenty of times for a discussion, I have discussed with Harriet Hall, I have also been trying to discuss with David Gorski, all these other people and they don't have the guts to do so, I even tried to have a reasonable conversation with Harriet Hall and all she does is being complete other narcissist with her sarcastic attitude and as soon as I provided so many scientific evidences her followers immediately were verbally attacking me, several individuals were literally like going on against while I was just one person myself which clearly proves what kind of cowards they are. I also debunked Braden as well who is also a member of science based medicine community who has been saying that ozone therapy doesn't work for anything. Well I completely destroyed him as a rebuttal and you see I possess a thick map containing 456 PDF files that has medical studies such as systematic reviews, meta-analysis, in vitro, in vivo, case reports, cohort studies, various randomized controlled trials, double-blinded studies, I possess all of them including various medical journal peered-reviewed books about ozone therapy efficacy, and yea when I drop that they all gone silent, I have exposed so many liars and anti-holistic people they literally can't stand against me which is why I also received multiple death threats in the past, got harassed as well. So there you have it.

[@Ampharos_diff1212]

Rather idiotic and simple minded approach, while big pharma focuses on instant treatment in order for quick cash, US doctors have been pushed to do research on artificial drugs in order to treat things in the short run(the easy route) while the true route should be towards cell therapy in order to give a more natural result which doesn’t affect health in the long run rather create a stronger , labeling alternative medicine as only acupuncture or naturalists is untrue and false as alternative medicine in today’s world is greatly expanding looking towards individual signaling cascades in order to treat things from the source, sadly the US is not interested and will never be as long as big pharma reigns supreme we should learn from our eastern neighbors in Asia and Europe instead

[@hosoiarchives4858]

Call me when this guy reduces cancer diabetes heart disease obesity

[@eboronkay]

All he is doing is protecting the profits of the allopathic medical industrial concerns.

[@doctordaro2112]

Yeah because alternative medicine doesnt make any money lmao

[@fdpcompdm]

@@doctordaro2112 I can't believe you are comparing the profits made from alternative medicine with the the big pharma.

[@doctordaro2112]

@@fdpcompdm ironically, big pharma is also selling alternative medicine for billions of dollars.

[@whatsupbrah5352]

I trust him because he has diplomas and chemotherapy works all the time, I also trust these doctors handing out opioids like candy. Thank you John d and Andrew C for monopolizing medicine and turning holistic medicine into quackery. All praise the chemicals they give us and their side effects.

[@nohorasims656]

He knows nothing about Homeopathy

[@itheuserfirst3186]

And homeopaths know nothing about proving their therapies.

[@skaterdavedownsouth]

It doesn’t take anything more than a cursory examination of Samuel Hahnemann’s theories to know quite enough about the nonsense called homeopathy - no capitalization needed btw.

[@lauchzwiebel]

He has a huge ego

[@Daldrianna]

lauchzwiebel Intelligence & knowledge equals "huge ego"? With increasing belief in psedoscience treatments & scams, Dr. Novella stands up against famous pseudoscience promoters like Deepak, Dr. Oz, & Oprah. That's heroic to me. Science Based humanists are in the minority. Why? Because it's difficult to learn, however, it saves lives. Dr. Novella goes out of his way to help provide accurate science-based medicine to the public, teach medical students, practices medicine, organizes science podcast, started the only science-based medicine blog, & more. Not for money & fame, but, because critical thinking is lacking & he cares as a humanist. Especially with the lesser educated most at risk. It's how Trump became president. Dr. Steve has helped me get accurate diagnoses & improved my quality of life. Before I fell for pseudoscientific treatments & scams that has caused severe permanent nerve damage leaving me dependant upon a caregiver rest of my life. All bc I fell for those scams & believed there was evidence for "alt med" & it was harmless. I was wrong. We need more like him willing to speak up for science. Just because someone speaks well, doesn't mean they have an ego. I see it as someone to learn from.

[@kbld1]

read this. This guy is paid to be a quack. bolenreport.com/top-pseudo-skeptic-steven-novella-humiliated-on-national-tv-and-it-was-fun-to-watch/

[@UTubeSL]

kbld1 hi there. Honestly that just reads as a hit piece with a lot of ad hominem attacks, which is a shame. To sum up - if one agrees with the idea of science-based medicine, then one is aligned to Steven Novella's thinking... Simple as that! :) Best Steve

[@jaredhynum4823]

kbld1 LOL! Holy shit if you think this article is anything but an embarrassment to the author, there is no hope for you. Your brain is unable to sort out genuine criticism from kindergarten-level slander. There's almost no specific claims in that amateur blog piece, and the claims that do exist don't hold up to reality.

[@rich8381]

@@Daldrianna what I thinks funny is you don't even know who the quacks are. Oz works for big pharma and is paid to dictate their narrative. You just cut up the industry you're in favor of without realizing he's part of scientific establishment. Improved your quality of life? Right because you probably just take a pill to mask symptoms, but never address the problem

[@esoterictime]

this guy is the fraud

[@skaterdavedownsouth]

Your comment is backed by what? Your opinion? Oooooooooooooh…

[@jamesbolton4369]

Dr. Steven Novella is a genius!!!