Michigan school shooter addresses court at sentencing hearing

The teen convicted of shooting and killing four fellow students and injuring six others says his parents didn't know about his plan.
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[@CoverBydAn]

It’s shockingly surreal and confusing when evil admits they are evil

[@dsodso1664]

Trying to get lighter sentence

[@pepelefrog1121]

​@@dsodso1664There are no rules in the liberal socialist world, only wishes and desire. Liberal socialists wont agree on anything, especially on whats good and evil. They think they know, but half of them think that cutting a kid's pecker off its good, while the other half is worried about saving the health of others while on diabetes and cancer.

[@ianmininger]

@@dsodso1664 I really doubt he believed he had any chance of that statement impacting his sentencing. A human being is truly capable of both murdering people and actually feeling bad about it afterwards. Whether that's just regret over having to suffer the consequences or actual remorse for what he's done, only the consistency of his behavior over future years can really tell. Sometimes it is actual remorse. Lots of people come to disagree with actions they made when they were fifteen, even if those actions are ones that required an especially aberrant mind to have ever been perpetrated. Of course none of that can change the fact that he chose to do it and thus rightly deserves life in prison, but what he's expressing is probably accurate to how he feels right now.

[@Illiyinmusic]

@@ianmininger He knows it is looked at as wrong. Their decision making can't differentiate the two. That's why he is not so much apologizing, but talking about hoping to be able to change. There was no emotion there... He doesn't feel bad...they don't feel in that way. He knows thats what a normal person would say.

[@Carlos27thFS]

It shows just how truly fucked up and delusionally disconnected this guy is. Normal same people just cannot comprehend how fucked up he is.

[@limepiper3650]

This is a disaster, this country NEEDS to figure out WTF is happening with our children.

[@AndrewTodd-uu3us]

Not the country, you liberal states need to get your sh*t together though.

[@efoxxok7478]

Is because the sense of morality that comes from the belief in a higher being and higher responsibility has been removed from education.

[@princessshenaniganspresent5538]

This country or the parents??

[@mperezmcfinn2511]

​@AndrewTodd-uu3us Did liberals give him the firearms?

[@kirstinalphabet796]

When parents lost the ability to discipline their children, their children lost respect for elders. Period. End of story.

[@pabloescobar3382]

His not going to realize what he did..until atleast the first 10 yrs ..

[@why-jw3od]

He doesn't realize the impact of murdering he understands that people died.

[@Illiyinmusic]

@@why-jw3od exactly. That's something that is never going to change.

[@zentherapist1]

This kid wasn’t so much as raised by parents, but rather ignored. The whole family set this terrible deed in motion. The parents whose kids were killed will suffer forever.

[@YallNotWhite_YourPINK]

Here we go with blaming everyone else lmao. It's either not his fault or its mental health!!! You guys always those two excuses ready for these mass shooters

[@AndrewTodd-uu3us]

It's his fault too. The majority of humans know what is right and what is wrong, and he does as well. He is at more fault than his parents and family.

[@FNigslol]

It was literally just the kid. Stop making excuses for white kids

[@FNigslol]

​@@YallNotWhite_YourPINKbro literally. These internet addicts are a joke

[@henryhenry9749]

I wonder what happens to these school shooters in prison.

[@cindland]

He speaks in such a detached way. Like he knows it but it’s not real either. He does however sound sincere. Sadly it doesn’t undo all the havoc, heartache, and terror he has wrought in this community.

[@happy777abc]

He's in court in an orange jumpsuit for murder, trying to apologize! Yeah, a little detached!! (I believe he is sincere)

[@rin-eri]

He said no one else is culpable and no one could have stopped him but… he doesn’t know that. Kids in so many situations think something is all their fault or no one knows their secrets. There’s a lot people know and there’s a lot of systems that should have caught and stopped him. It sounds like he’s trying to save his parents from prosecution. But that’s not how it works. Not anymore.

[@jestaman3356]

Kid was a ticking time bomb. All the red flags were there to get this kid under control before this atrocity occurred, yet it didn't happen. The school showed concern beforehand, and tried getting the parents involved, but if you read about the parents you wouldn't be too surprised that they didn't get their kid the help he needed. Kid showed plenty of early signs of being psychologically troubled, yet you have his parents who are so out of touch with their kid that they are buying him a gun for Christmas. If they actually paid attention to their kid, they would have known the last thing they needed in their house was a gun, let alone one specifically for their son... It takes a village to raise a child, and once again the village has failed. There is never a good reason to commit such a despicable act, and the kid is rightfully being held accountable, but there is still a lot more blame that needs to be handed out beyond him. Such an unfortunate tragedy that could have been prevented.

[@tiffanyholman4028]

💯

[@theriddlerUSA]

So tragic in every way.

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

Look at his race tho. The usual suspects FACTS. So what did y'all expect

[@ralphangel561]

White people don't believe in discipline and chastisement for their children and it continues to show. Spare the rod spoil the child.

[@AzureKnightmare32]

@@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040 Racist much? You think this monster shooting kids at his school is any different or worse than non-white kids shooting other kids on the street? Are you really so delusional as to think there haven't been and aren't still dozens doing just as bad and worse? And what of the regularly occurring shootings, beatings and stabbings (you know, the ones the biased media barely reports on if at all...and if so they do it briefly, dishonestly, and vaguely...that perpetuates the exact hate YOU and they have in their hearts to commit the crimes in the first place?) perpetrated by non-white kids on both POC and white kids? Crickets, amirite? GTFOH with your BS. Take a long look in the mirror and some accountability.

[@lilmamasomeanlovedymond5416]

How can this guy deserve possibility of parole when he ended 4 innocent lives and seriously injured others and their families?

[@Skateandcreate9]

Because they do that for BLMers 😅 equal rights for all yes? 😂

[@ellebee8476]

He is "constitutionally protected". Everyone here knows, law and order, are not for him or his kind.

[@matthewviramontes3131]

He got sentenced to life without parole

[@gunnarbatty7511]

​@ellebee8476 what is "his kind"

[@elg2702]

? What… are you blind he is white… look at Kyle rittengay

[@valdez3245]

His parents really failed this young man.

[@erinlee7216]

Amen

[@callmethreeone]

In every way possible, really sad.

[@dr-ng8te]

Possibly but I Will tell you some being s some children are at ages 1 already showing a broken mind and are genetically evil in their own Body 😮

[@ShoppingAttic]

He made his choices, not his parents. He's an adult

[@JesusGodHolySpirit3]

He made his decision, not his parents. You do not know his parents to put the blame on them or their circumstances. Like I have a choice to eat In N Out today, but I don't want to because it tastes like Chlorine is that my parents choice, no it's my choice.

[@miriammaxlow-scholl6886]

His parents deserve a lot of the blame. His parents neglected him; plus the school never searched his backpack.

[@thedarknightreturns1994]

You are Adumbass.

[@adan6566]

It's the school's fault now?

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

The usual suspects FACTS. They being doing schools malls supermarkets FACTS

[@kevincourtney7312]

@@adan6566 Yes. As a kid who was bullied in school, I can say for certain that teachers turn a blind eye on kids being bullied unless they're LGBT or it's white kids picking on a POC. They don't care about a weak white kid and will only act if you swing back. They, you're the one in trouble. Teachers allowed this to happen.

[@solidstream13]

Schools don’t search backpacks

[@richpaydirt]

Anyone who went through the public school system knows someone like this. The bullying, the harassment, a loser who’s not part of the “cool” club. Hell, this could have been me

[@Jade_902]

It was our daughter. We took her out of school.

[@timmyisthereason]

@@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040 don't you have a black owned business to loot or something?

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

@@timmyisthereason Y'all are the usual suspects

[@kommisar.]

@@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040 So go to the next BLM rally and talk about what an oppressed class you are part of.

[@whos1st]

@@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040ya, if he’d been a mud-colored, he’d rape 3 - 4 women, knocked up a baby mama and drove through a Christmas parade. All the high IQ stuff.

[@AB-cd2ic]

Wow. I can't believe how he spoke. He's very intelligent, well spoken surprisingly. You might feel sorry for him in some ways. This doesn't excuse him for all the lives he's taken and the lives he's messed up. It's such a sad situation

[@marinda3262]

I thought the same. A shy, intelligent teenager with serious issues, not being dealt with in time. What a sad situation. His life and others ruined forever

[@susankustich1720]

At first I had no sympathy for Ethan!! But after seeing and hearing him speak I do feel bad for him! only because he was abused and neglected growing up and raised by two people who should never have been parents! and on top of that has a mental illness he was crying out for help with which he never received!! The victim's family and friends are very angry with Ethan (as of course they should be) but I think some of the anger has to be divided up with the parents that created the monster within Ethan and the school system that failed in taking the proper actions with Ethan! very sad situation!

[@randomguyonyoutube8844]

The saddest part is that he showed bad mental health and instead of his parents helping him, they just buy him a gun for CHRISTMAS

[@Poo531]

@@susankustich1720 When Black teens are neglected and abused and raised up in an abusive household, you all have a different message I see, let’s just say if this guy was a Black 15 year old kid, that did these things to school kids, say he killed both black students and white students, I wonder if you would have this same energy for the “poor little Black teen ”! , would you be calling him a kid or a grown man!,? Or would you say he is not a teenager, at 15 he is considered a grown man, and should be charged as an adult! And would you say that his upbringing has nothing to do with what he did, he or they because y’all like to throw us all in one basket and say he or they are just evil! Or bad or thugs? I wonder what you would say if anything at all if this white killer was a 15 year old Black school killer????? Just asking be truthful and switch the race!

[@dr-ng8te]

@@susankustich1720 some blood is so bad,bad genetics are understood by the rulers of this planet as part of these kinds of action s

[@jamillus21]

This is something straight out of a movie. So sad for the victim's and their families!

[@j.d.jdthinktankersorg.asa.4237]

Words cannot describe, it's all very sad , such a waste...

[@corneliusdinkmeyer2190]

Truly. This guy is only 17 & his life is over. His misery is just beginning. Absolutely heartbreaking. A waste of lives all the way around. Just heartbreaking.

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

Look at his race tho so what did y'all expect

[@ronburgundy8941]

@@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040what about all that black on black crime .. what do you expect

[@Reader24987]

So, I guess denying guilt despite evidence, blaming society, and pouting in silence is the correct reaction?@@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040

[@flushit.]

This is heart-wrenching on so many levels.

[@kathystyles8581]

It sure is 😢

[@onelife7247]

What happened to the olden days when boys had a good old fashioned punch up. It’s so saddening how permanent his “mistake” is.

[@ErikaCruz-u4p]

This is heart-wrenching on so many levels.. His parents really failed this young man..

[@illburnmyselfforreal]

Already written, you just added more to it.

[@popeopera]

His actions, his responsibility.

[@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749]

I hate when cowards like you never hold colonizers accountable. Absolutely pathetic 😂

[@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749]

Only evil colonizers 🧒🏻 can sit up here and make a victim out of thin air for such evil deeds. Evil defends evil makes sense 😂

[@Fade2Dark]

Parents not at fault

[@LawrenceAdele1919]

Very sad, empty, mentally devastated young man, what a complete waste of a life, I hope all find some peace from this monstrous act.

[@jamesburroughs4709]

That was as "Stand Up" as he could be and I admire him for the effort. The kid is messed up, but his parents are the ones that hold true accountability. He begged them for help, and she wanted horses.

[@dtrtuscay826]

Oh come now! This boy carefully planned this massacre for many days. Kids who have had much worse upbringings have turned out better than that. There is nothing admirable about this creature. His promise to become a better person in prison is an insult to the parents whose children he brutally murdered.

[@budmartino4202]

No the kid is fucked up.

[@getit1166]

you admire someone who "admits" they were wrong and want to change, not even seconds after saying they lie and are untrustworthy, and their actions show it? that's wild

[@jendee1260]

you admire someone that kills children? am i hearing this correctly?

[@sicidamara7061]

i can honestly say my parents were 100x worse and I never planned to hurt anyone else because of my truly horrific, traumatizing childhood.

[@lynwill9946]

No sympathy from me. I am tired of these folks

[@21_guccic_love5]

Me too

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

I guess it shouldn't shock you, with violence being one of your folks primary values

[@JJ-vm7dk]

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThankswhat bro go back to your bed and sleep away your life 😂

[@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks]

@JJ-vm7dk sure thing. As soon as you can riddle me why the percentage of black violent offenders compared to the entire black population is SO MUCH HIGHER than the percentage of white violent offenders to the entire white population? I'll give to time to find a way to deflect or find some way to put the blame on society and not yourselves. Hurry tf up, it's almost my bedtime

[@PocketPilferer]

@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks ironic when you're 13/50

[@sandyoi5301]

Crumbly Still Lying 🤥... His Parents Are Responsible for giving him a gun knowing he has mental illnesses! 😥 😔

[@lisapantelogiannis6126]

Also Instagram knew ahead of time and many others. Censoring for some?

[@truth4004]

And the internet.

[@truth4004]

Children should be banned from the net. Too much too soon.

[@UpcomingJedi]

Mental illness my foot! Thats like those people getting arrested and being dragged to the police car kicking and screaming then yell they cant breath.

[@sandyoi5301]

@@UpcomingJedi Understand... however 🤔... pathological killers are due to mental illnesses (not having developed pro-social emotional development empathy and problem solving skills... due to Nature genetics and Nurture environment mostly in younger years) Pathology (dopamine good feeling rush upon hurting and killing another) is not the same as taking no responsibility nor Accountability for one's thoughts and actions by kicking and screaming "foul play!" However 🤔... 🤔 ❓ 🤔

[@stevenboddy4232]

Part of me feels really bad and part of me is disgusted, obviously. Children who get incessantly bullied and have a bad homie life, really are changed by it. And I get "you know right from wrong, you can choose better, blah blah blah"---If this kid was abused and ignored for what, 15 years it seems like, does a real number on your brain and your ability to function and understand the world around you. It's just a real shame all around, nobody should ever have to go through this, especially in America, supposedly the most powerful and greatest country ever. We can't even help our own people here. After years of travel and just getting older I've realized most people are fine, it really is a few bad apples that ruin the bunch.

[@ME-gz8yi]

Sadly he and his victims did not stand a chance as the people [parents] who were supposed to be responsible for him were too caught up in their own self-interest. He exhibits more self-awareness and emotional intelligence in this speech than his parents likely possess put together.

[@GiveMeaFuckingBreakDude]

This is nothing new when you corner an animal what happens? We forget we are mammals .

[@AnAbortiveRomance]

I don't know this kids back story, but I know some kids are treated absolutely horrible in school by their peers. It doesn't matter if you have a good home life or not in that case, it's fks you up. Most people will say, "but everyone gets teased/bullied". People who say that have no idea how bad some kids have it. That wouldn't excuse his actions, but it can help explain them. What if the kids he murdered tormented him daily for years? Looking at his posture and demeanor, I'm guessing he was treated pretty poorly at school. Justified, no, but it could be karma depending on the situation. I saw kids who were tormented daily at school for years, who just took it. I saw teachers ignore it and just walk by. I wouldn't have blamed some of those kids for taking out their tormentors, but not random people who did them no harm.

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

That's no excuse. Stop making excuses for that RaceTheUsaul suspects FACTS. That's what they always do.

[@Reader24987]

Great points! If adults could only think back & remember how difficult it was to be a teenager, where your worst critics were the ones you wanted the most to accept you! If they didn't accept you, they let you know daily, in cruel ways. Today, the cruelty is incessant due to social media! Home is no longer a safe haven. Irresistible social media lurks, and cruelty is there waiting for the next log in. Telling our kids that we were bullied, we survived, and that it's a rite of passage that all experience, makes it worse. @@AnAbortiveRomance

[@Writteninthesoul]

Words are cheap. Who in their right, clear, and empathetic mind would kill other people? He is young but these actions are of a psychopath. If he gets let out on parole, he will repeat. So maddening!!

[@callmethreeone]

You don't normally get paroled when your sentence is life, without parole.

[@truth4004]

Teen angst.

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

Look at his race tho so what did you expect???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@Reader24987]

When I heard him speak using vocabulary beyond his years, with no emotion, my first thought was maybe he's on the Autism Spectrum, as in high functioning ASD . That was my gut reaction.

[@algernon2719]

what part of his statement claimed be was right, clear, or empathetic? Are you low velocity?

[@susansmith9263]

Tragic...😥💔 The people that he killed, can't hear this apology. Their families lives, forever changed. Senseless...😔

[@BlaccHokage]

I tell you what I truly believed I saved my own high school from a school shooting. 2007 my junior year..we had a kid like this named James that ALL the boys picked on. Well one day that shit got under my skin so bad that I stood up on the table in front of the cafeteria and started telling everyone’s little dirty secrets. (I was popular enough) but the main guy…I embarrassed so badly that he cried. Everyday after that I would run up to James and hug him or jump on his back or asked him if he wanted to “sit with us” By the time our junior year was over he told me that that year was the best school year he ever had. By the time senior year came he was changed and everyone changed with him. He pulled me to the side our graduation day and told me he brought a gun to school the same day I stood up for him. Told me he didn’t care about ppl..himself..or anything at that time. He said he just wanted everyone to die and that I saved the school. I think about that a lot. Here I am, a lesbian..black and confident standing up for a white kid that didn’t bother anyone. Just wanted to get through the day. lol he is married to a black woman btw. But I’m so proud of him and proud of myself that I wasn’t such a follower.

[@ByGraceThroughFaith4991]

I hope someday you won't be a lesbian. May God have mercy on me and you and anyone else suffering from dire imperfections.

[@bubbaXzone]

thats fucking amazing! People are just conform and afraid to be themselves or afraid of going against the norm.

[@winston7920]

Truly we all never know what difference we can make and I believe you were not just "nudged" but SHOVED by God - or supreme being you believe in, to stand up, speak up and it was a divine intervention.

[@Hakkyoku8e]

Thats great, people in my city are still in grief over the deaths caused by the terrorist who decided to kill aunties and uncles at a grocery store while streaming it on Twitch. They mustve been guilty of bullying 😑

[@HIDDENRHYTHM]

🧢

[@allenlovell1604]

Sad😢😢😢 for his victims ; their killer gets life in prison, but the victim's families won't ever get their loved ones back !

[@TomikaKelly]

Life in prison is worse than death. If he lives to be 85 years old, he would've spent 70 years locked in a cage.

[@mopthermopther]

Put his parents in jail too

[@ensley97]

Nah we can't say that. He's grown and made a bad decision. Nobody says that for the hundreds of thousands of African American kids whose parents weren't there. Or whose parents didn't teach them right from wrong. This young man can stand on his own 2....

[@Bluemortal001]

We gonna do this w black moms? For gang members? Are we? I didn’t think so…. Let’s see them in chains and in court…. In Chicago Are we! I didn’t think so… Pathetic double standard

[@forrestliu1689]

They did

[@rinlo1424]

​@@ensley97We absolutely *can* say that. First, he wasn't "grown" when he did this. He was 15 years old. Second, his parents were aware of his mental issues and chose to not get him any help. Third, his parents bought him a gun. Fourth, his parents allowed their mentally disturbed, underage son access to the gun he used to commit the crime. Of course we can think the parents are culpable.

[@rinlo1424]

​@@Bluemortal001If those moms (or dads) buy their underage kids guns and those guns are used to kill people, then yes, we should hold them accountable as well.

[@truth4004]

Parents are not shielding their children from violence. Its everywhere even in their class rooms.

[@mikmik5475]

Parents are no longer teaching kids to be selfless , kind and giving. Basic Christian values and yet they call themselves just that .

[@randomguyonyoutube8844]

His parents gave him a gun for Christmas.

[@ToysRUsKid_Critter]

Parents did not get help. School ignored red flags. Kid reached out for help. What an utter tragedy No winners. Happened 4 miles from my house

[@kevincourtney7312]

Finally, someone that has some proper perspective.

[@ToysRUsKid_Critter]

No evidence he was being bullied.

[@mikesblog9671]

I never understood the perspective “the kid reached out for help”, sure but does that justify his actions? In my book this kid is a coward

[@ToysRUsKid_Critter]

Doesn’t matter in the end. I only bring it up because there is not help. Those are simply political talking points. Mental health care is utterly broken in America. d we will continue to see this. Like I said. No winners.

[@Ditzychic]

Schools hands are tied by our stupid laws.

[@truth4004]

If he didn't have access to guns he wouldn't have been able to do it. Period.

[@scottulrich2725]

He wouldn't have if not for his parents. He could not buy a gun.

[@danielpalmer643]

His parents and the school might not have known with any certainty or detail, but his parents should not have allowed him to get access to the gun. They may be the first parents of a school shooter to be charged, but they probably shouldn't be the last.

[@manuelgaetan]

Wow, I find it hard to believe young people are throwing their life away. Being stuck in a cell, being told when to eat, sleep, etc., every day sucks.

[@tylerharris4392]

The adult and society failed them which is something that will never be admitted

[@joane.3533]

he is mentally ill

[@brendaalford94]

I do wish he would have gotten the help he needed before all this went down because he does seem intelligent enough to comprehend what’s going on and maybe this could have been stopped. Parents teachers guardians pay attention to these kids

[@TheAncientBiker]

Perhaps if you didn't have nearly four hundred million guns in private hands might have made a difference.

[@russeli1941]

@@TheAncientBiker What?

[@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3]

​@TheAncientBiker absolutely not more armed criminals have been stopped by good Samaritans with firearms then the police.

[@matzrat5006]

@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3 Not true.

[@matzrat5006]

@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3 Where were all the good guys with guns this year with over 600 mass shootings ?????????? Thats right, not one good guy with a gun.

[@joycejean-baptiste4355]

Good point. My ex husband tried to kill me with a machete. Our young children were running around the house playing, oblivious to what was going on in our room. The noise distracted him. I walked on eggshells until I fled to another state with my children . I let my family and friends know in case there was any foul play. . When he was on his death bed, nearly 20 years later in the hospital on my step son's cell phone he apologized profusely.

[@PutterMayhem]

I am so sorry you had to experience that. I am glad you and your children got out of there safely.

[@spencersims1285]

I admire this kid taking responsibility for his actions. I know grown adults who don't take responsibility. This doesn't change what he did or the life's he took. But he took responsibility and the part of him asking to impose the sentence the victims want shows he truly is sorry and has remorse.

[@JbgunnerisFINISHED]

He took responsibility to get his parents out of trouble. He was going to prison for life anyways. You people are really naive.

[@CantRead1]

​@@JbgunnerisFINISHEDno they are just idiots. Someone who admires a shooter in anyway needs to fucking look at themselves in the mirror and realize how stupid they have become. Good Lord.

[@alexandersalazar9750]

During sentencing and parole hearings this is how it 95 percent of the time it's like. They're sorry and have remorse cause they are worried about how much time they will get. He seriously thinks 15 or 25 years? I seen a 16 year old in Michigan get 42 years for killing his grandma. A thirteen year old get natural life. Michigan doesn't have good time also

[@mediabrandslife]

@@JbgunnerisFINISHED Right its out of control lol

[@scarletred8888]

@@alexandersalazar9750He didn’t say how much time he thought he would get - he is talking about his plan to become a better person and that if anyone checks reports on him in 15, 25 or whatever years in the future, they will find he has reformed - he didn’t say anything about how long he expects to remain imprisoned

[@Musettube]

His parents should be in prison for life, not him. He needed medical help and still do.

[@Yoseman1]

I just don't think a just society puts mentally ill children in jail with adults. I just don't.

[@TomikaKelly]

Agreed. It should be unconstitutional.

[@Yoseman1]

@@DJ-tn3ov What an intellegent response! Be honest, how many times in a week does someone refer to you as some form of stupid? The under/over is 4.5.

[@daerdfotuoerew4394]

@@Yoseman1I love how your “smart” rebuttal to that was basically “You’re a dummy🥺”

[@Yoseman1]

@@daerdfotuoerew4394 You are a dummy, because the crime was committed when he was a child. How old he is now has nothing to do with it. He is also mentally ill, meaning that even if he was an adult when this was committed, it's cruel and draconian to put him into a prison with regular criminals who are not mentally ill. Good enough...dummy? It's sad that people like you allow your misfortunes, anger and shortcomings to manifest into wanting to see others suffer beyond what they deserve.

[@thadiscypal8874]

I believe mentally ill police are put on those same streets. See a pattern?

[@cynthiadavid5282]

His parents are also to be held accountable they did not raise him in a loving stable home

[@hitirussantosa7116]

blame is the new patriotism according to the gospel of orange jesus

[@en2456]

​@@hitirussantosa7116 Bad parenting continues to be a serious problem. So many parents just don't know what they're doing these days when raising kids. Not everyone can raise a kid properly and it truly shows.

[@daniellecowley7922]

Its so sad...I hope he can grow and change...His parents really failed him

[@jauquezhackett6450]

If he was black you would say he is a disgrace and the parents.. smh. Hypocrisy.

[@Senseslol]

@@jauquezhackett6450you sound dumb.

[@zoidzoid87]

@@jauquezhackett6450 exactly

[@stevejones8486]

Life without parole is criminal in this particular case.

[@CaptnHampton22]

If he thinks this is gonna make me think his parents are less culpable, he's dead wrong. Nice try for his parents to get him to say that. He literally wrote on a school paper "help me i can't stop" and nobody did anything.

[@kommisar.]

Yeah, they did something: they bought him a gun.

[@ludicrousmodel3173]

He has a point though, at 15 he knew what he was doing and he was the one who chose to take the lives of others. His parents had no idea about his plans, but they knew that he was troubled and still bought him the gun. Yes they should be held accountable for buying him the gun, but not for his decision.

[@JbgunnerisFINISHED]

Exactly. He would have been better off not mentioning his parents. Wrong strategy. Now his parents look more guilty.

[@fogpumas]

His parents should absolutely be held accountable for this.

[@reniaesaddler8632]

No person is fully evil, but within us all there is potential for both. His actions were evil, he is not evil. May God have mercy on his soul and lead him on the path to repentance. It takes a lot to say what he has said here.

[@marytorbert5212]

This is a very sad tragic case. For both the defendant and the victims. I do believe his parents need to be held accountable for completely failing there son. And in doing so those innocent victims died. Their son lost his future.

[@spwan10]

If his parents failed, that means the school failed, and fellow peers failed him too. Since humans are the most social creatures on the planet we all play Equal parts in creating the reality of life and the very realities we each live, we are all just as responsible for the reality of life of thos whom we interact and come into contact with us as much as own lives and reality. When you're playing the blame game there's always enough blame to go around. As a society we're all equally responsible of the reality of life and its vast perceptions. It's no different than being on a professional sports team, and any professional athlete would agree that a team's failure is a shared responsibility after all there's more than one person on the field

[@majorpwner241]

People who say 'there' instead of 'their' shouldn't get to weigh in on who's guilty of what. 🙄

[@Stacy-]

@ ​spwan10 - Well we as a society didn't buy or give a gun to a troubled kid. His parents did that. That's why they should be held responsible for giving him the gun & allowing him to take it to school. His parents were called into the school to discuss his violent tendencies & troubling behavior, but they didn't want to pull him out of school or deal with him that day. That was the same day he murdered the victims. As soon as they heard there was a shooting at the school, they knew it was him. Then his parents tried to hide from the cops too.

[@joshlapoint9993]

​@majorpwner241 people who use a simple and pretty common grammar mistake on a KZbin post as their means for discrediting "their" opinion are even worse. You do realize authors have editors for a reason right?

[@cynthiadavid5282]

Sad so sad I pray that he gets therapy in prison omg I ache for him please give him.the help he needs please 🙏 prayers for this man the

[@scottulrich2725]

That's disgusting.

[@Oceangirl_505]

He never said that he killed people, which is the worst thing that he did.

[@Djt4848]

He’s going to have a a tough time behind those walls. If he thinks prison is gonna be fun, or peaceful in anyway, it’s different when you don’t have a gun. Welcome to an extortion haven young man. He might not even make it tbh.

[@spacecase382]

This dude wont make it a week

[@smack9516]

Yep-wont last long

[@littleoneforever6450]

You guys really think it will be that bad for him ya wrong he will check in pc for a few years when he comes out the hole he will have a hang on how the prison work and now they have a new rule for phedofiles or raping someone in prison were if you hurt one of this guys they will give you 5 years and up the only reason i said this i was in a level 4-3-2 and trust me as much as guys want to get to some of this people it will be nearly impossible the c.o will make sure he gets away with all this in prison trust me guys i did 16 years for being the gateway driver in a bank robbery and they transfer me to over 7 prisons they all work the same now

[@OpuSupO]

Rflmaoooo... You obviously don't know shit about prison. The only people who seriously suffer in there are pesos. Everyone else just does time. Stop believing everything you see on TV. Lololol

[@aueyburroughs1143]

​@spacecase382 Not to many cases of someone not making it more than 1 week. Truly if a=" HIGH PROFILE PRISON KILLING:"happens it, comes after years. Usually when the inmate & Prison staff let their guard down, As well as someone planning on hurting them for quite some time.

[@russelltcranford]

🙏🏾❤️I wish we could save our kids and our counterparts ! Lord help us .🙏🏾❤️

[@barbaraborgard1110]

Shame on his parents... You destroyed your child and in turn he did the same to others. Selfish

[@soniab3731]

Part of me feels sad for him ….he could’ve become something in life …please love your children , be with them in their daily activities ❤❤❤❤or this can happen to to child too

[@OakleighCupp-xm3lu]

Parents are in jail I think for 13 in half more years they got 15 years mom dad. It’s sad because Ethan begged for help I just wish he had a friend who invited him to church so pastor could’ve prayed over him his family and his house to tell the demons they have to flee no more of this. It’s also in the school Ethan also asked the school he was going through some stuff at home and the school ignored him no kid deserves to suffer. I for give Ethan for what he did cause in the end if we don’t forgive anyone God won’t for give us and I want god to forgive me.

[@tabernaclejones6115]

Man if I would have done some of the stupid shit I felt like doing when I was his age, I’d be dead 100%. His parents failed him. They were too preoccupied with their failing marriage and cheating on each other than watching their obviously troubled son’s behavior.

[@blasphemertheseventh]

I sincerely hope the parents get serious jail time despite his claims they were unaware of his actions.

[@llamalady8700]

PARENTS didn't break any LAWS, idiot.

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

The usual suspects FACTS. Look at his race tho so what did y'all expect

[@american_chevy616]

That’s just crazy.

[@randomguyonyoutube8844]

​@cl1ntonbodycount652they bought him the gun he used despite him showing clear signs of unstable mental health

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

​@cl1ntonbodycount652 just because they didn't have explicit knowledge of this event, they still failed him and facilitated nudging him in this direction through inaction and neglect. He still will be rightfully held accountable, but some percentage of blame falls upon the absent parents. Some absent parents get away with it because the kid has other support systems or is particularly resilient. Other absent parents create shitty people and it can spiral like this, because that kid needed more help and never got it. Ultimately I doubt he does this if his parents treated him better. That's "why".

[@Brianmac007]

This is why as parents we have to invest in children or monsters are created. By no means am I suggesting anyone is at fault other than this creature but an ignored child who has real serious problems can then become a monster as shown here. Rest in peace to all the victims and I hope and pray for all the parents, family members and the community that they can find a way to deal with this and move forward. Love and hug your dearest because at any moment it can all be taken away 💔

[@pamelaspooner7183]

Add Anger Management to the curriculum at all levels. Parents often express a LOT of anger in their homes (speaking from experience) so it's going to have to come through the schools.

[@carolirvine3367]

His lawyers wrote him a good speech. I watched the parents impact statements and cried all the way through and was glad to hear the sentence handed down by this amazingly good judge.

[@janetjohnson7279]

So Disturbing & Very Sad! 🙏😥🙏😥

[@guydreamr]

He used the word "culpability" when referring to his victims and their families, that sounds like a Freudian slip. He thinks they deserved what he did to them.

[@LegendLength]

it was bad wording for sure, the judge would have noticed

[@guydreamr]

@@LegendLength And maybe given him three life sentences without parole instead of just two, lol.

[@radeeo1658]

dude said "what I plan to do" not planned. That's a Freudian slip if i've ever heard one

[@greg9069]

He said he plans on becoming a better person throughout his sentence. Idk where the Freudian slip is..

[@German-j3y7r]

This is for all the Parents who are not raising their kids. I hope they r watching .

[@Jojotrin]

Anyone under 17 that does this, parents need to go to jail

[@Yoseman1]

Incredibly moronic, anger driven response, and solves nothing.

[@Encourager-Purpose-Destiny]

My prayers go out to all those he wounded and to all the families and loved ones of those who he killed. May God bless each of them with peace, strength, understanding, and joy. May they walk in faith and not fear. May God bless them all with the inter-healing and physical healing that they each stand in need of in Jesus' name.

[@youtubecrack]

His parents should be sitting in prison also.

[@matzrat5006]

I think they are.

[@OshanFernando]

@@matzrat5006 yup, they are. They were sentenced to life if I'm not mistaken

[@ggnbista7756]

with full compassion to victim and the family, I feel sorry for this young man too...come out a better man than you went in-from Nepal

[@nekocindy551]

I fear he is finally gaining clarity into what he has done, I hope maybe one day he too...can find peace inside himself. Being at war with your own mind and urges is a hell no one deserves. He is not innocent of crime...but he was still a child too...

[@DeeWeber]

❤❤❤

[@nancienordwick4169]

This is a child. Men aren't fully realized adults until about age 26 depending on the genetics of their growth. Their bodies aren't fully grown either.

[@ATCRyderX]

"Ethan Crumbley" sounds like a Harry Potter NPC rather than Inmate # *whatever* - We've gone to Ethan Crumbley's flat to ask his mum for a bit of crisps & some tea. We all wore stupid spectacles & mucked about. It was simply wonderous. "'YOU'RE A BAD WIZARD, HARRY!"

[@vangroover1903]

The My Pony FEDEX shooter was Brandon Hole.......that's B. Hole to you and me

[@fatalberti]

well said young man. seen it maaany times. probably wouldn’t be here if boy had decent parents. peers also influence quite a bit. bullies get by with bullying-verbally, physically. they are NEVER held accountable with any meaningful consequences. the abuse kids that are different and have no support. victims either end themselves or perpetrate something against others/society. people need to think about it. start raising and supporting your kids. stop teaching them to be bullies i can tell you, many of us struggled through it because and only because we had supportive strong parents. we didn’t act out or take the final step to opt out of life. you all need to recognize

[@RussellSproutz1]

At least he held himself accountable.

[@jvixtor]

I have believed in this for over two decades now - Just like we have rounds of exams written, practical, etc to be qualified for driving, there should be rounds of tests and examinations before you are qualified to have children.

[@Trump2024FJB]

Needed attention that his parents never gave him.

[@thethrowawaythatstayed7055]

He was highly neglected. He said he heard voices and wanted therapy. His parents bought him a gun instead. He used to knock on neighbours doors as a five year old asking for food because they’d just leave him. What he did was so evil and you can see how he got that twisted. His parents.

[@OkBoomerG4mer]

Are you kidding me? That old lady wiped a tear for this EVIL MURDERER???

[@donnalourim3131]

Hi I am evynn I just wanted to say I am so completely sorry for your loss it hurts me that he did this I just want you guys to know that you will see them again one day I have Fath that you will and I am so very sorry for what all the students are going through I will pray for the both of you that things will get better love evynn Lourim

[@brendasmart553]

Boy that black haired attorney sure had a tight psychic reign on him as he spoke, a bit creepy matter of fact, bizarre. He never apologized for the murders here either, horrible.

[@itzamia]

@1:53 😉

[@chrisryan6269]

did you even watch the video?

[@donnah5378]

He did apologize at the end

[@jakes3799]

"I really am sorry. What I've done, what I've taken from them."

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

"My actions are because of what I chose to do. I could not stop myself." That's a major contradiction. If you made a choice to do it, then you could have stopped yourself.

[@micheleperry.]

I commend this young man for being truthful that took guts. I hope and pray that you do choose to do better and give your heart to God so that He can change you and deliver you from the things you're fighting. Their is help and hope for you in God. Acts 2:38 is a good place to start. I hope you get to help many ppl just like you change and be different. No sin is to big for God to forgive. I pray for the family's that lost their children and I pray for this young man to give his heart to God and to hopefully help others like him find Jesus and change their lives.

[@Iceis_Phoenix]

Amen praise Jesus

[@dtrtuscay826]

You have got to be kidding. Commending him for his "guts"? He's a coward. He shot defenseless people who had never harmed him. Spewing a phony show of remorse is not brave on his part; it's outrageous.

[@micheleperry.]

@@SicKno-i5r Listen I never said he deserved freedom or he shouldn't pay for what he did. I'm not gullible. I'm simply saying yes God can change him does that mean he goes free then no.But God can and does change ppl even murderers.

[@michaelpoole-j6w]

His remorse is real. Imposing a senescence that he will accept. Can't take back what happened. He wants to help prevent this tragedy from happening again. Make it so. Mental illness in this country needs to be addressed.

[@beatsbytracks6212]

Bro thought he was only getting 15-25 years 😂😂😂😂😂

[@christopher399]

No, he didn't. He knew he was going to spend the rest of the life in prison.

[@beanj580]

I can't help but hurt for this kid. His parents totally failed him. His life is ruined, children lost their life, and their family is irreparably damaged as a result of his families neglect. I just don't agree he should spend life in prison because he is a child. I know children lost their life , but there is a whole backstory to this.

[@ilikewater9861]

This is what years of bullying leads to, i bet this child got bullied everyday at school. Not saying its right but bullying can cause people to do crazy things.

[@kimnolte237]

It’s so horrible because all he wanted and needed was the love and attention his parents wouldn’t give him. I’m not justifying what he did but parents aren’t parents anymore and everyone is paying the price for their absolute laziness when it comes to rearing their children.

[@Yoseman1]

We are ALL paying for Capitalism. Capitalism is what denies mentally ill people the ability to get help, parents the ability to spend enough time with their kids, causes the "us against them" mentality, etc. Solve Capitalism, and the amount of problems you solve with it are countless.

[@kitchenlife1516]

I agree. And I’m sure this won’t be a popular opinion, but I have some empathy for him. I do not in any way agree with what he did, but I feel he was really having some serious issues, and not getting any help from his parents, and he carried out in a really bad plan. Nobody really knows what he was really going through, and the help he was given. The fact that he pleaded guilty, and the statement he made at sentencing, tells me he is holding himself some what accountable for his actions. I feel so sad for everyone involved in this, especially those that lost loved ones 😢

[@jamesrossiter6155]

All of you feeling sorry for him; I was horribly bullied at school, and suffered terrible abuse at home, and never hurt others. These are all excuses. Anyone who buys it, THAT'S what's wrong with our country. Everyone making or accepting excuses for behavior. This kid is a result of the, "love youself", and, " it's not your fault" culture of America. Narcissism reigns supreme.

[@bewareofsasquatch]

He gotten big. Crazy how he threw his life away and his parents are screwed too. His parents failed him. The gun should have never been boughten that gun. It was going to be a phase for him but he acted on it.

[@youngsavagefury7138]

His parents should go to jail too

[@davidh7799]

Sane, rational, remourseful..... Doesn't make any sense that this is a mass killer.

[@lilzsac]

They all look the same. . .

[@YightLagami-zt4mv]

He doesn’t look like Timothy George Simpkins or Steven Alston Jr.

[@harryohrn6051]

Why bother to address the court when the judge has already arrived at a sentence?

[@LegendLength]

It might be for situations where a defendant has a valid reason for their crime. E.g. stealing food during wartime or whatever. That way the judge could in theory overturn the whole sentence.

[@juanita_piju]

He’s a murderer but he said a whole lot more then nikolas Cruz 😒

[@starwarsovercome2798]

How does a school shooter take more accountability than youtubers on their "apology" videos

[@majorpwner241]

Because it's the easiest way to have some hope of parole/future release. He's just saying what he thinks the court wants to hear.

[@starwarsovercome2798]

@@majorpwner241 doesn’t mean he didn’t take accountability for his actions though. even someone only intending to apologize for their own gain would never, ever call themselves a bad person who’s done a very terrible thing.

[@kathleenniska6450]

At least he took responsibility for his own actions. That's more than his parents are doing.

[@ondoinganevildeed5049]

Pretty frightening how many boomers believe it’s “unconstitutional” to charge the parents as accessories to his crime. Really suggest reading Ethan’s journal entries before you decide how guilty the parents are in this.

[@gambit633]

Saying someone is 'just evil' is a cop-out, you need to understand why... childhood?, parents?, bullying? or do a voluntary brain scan is he wired as emotionless (psychopath)? You want to understand to help reduce future similar events. For some reason America has 10 times the school shootings of any other country. True part of it is easy accessibility to guns here, but I feel it is more than that... lack of a safety net? Teachers not reporting worries about isolated students? Could be important to compare countries see if there is some solution that would catch these people earlier, before they commit an atrocity. While on the flip side yes that was probably a speech prepared by his attorneys pre-sentencing, unlikely he truly meant it at this point. Just pro-forma. Some convicted shout obscenities at the judge and those generally get steeper sentences because they show no remorse.

[@jestaman3356]

Yup, reducing this down to the kid is "evil" is entirely missing the root issues, therefore allowing it to happen again in the future with another kid. This kid showed serious red flags early on, and they were either missed or ignored by his parents. Something pushed him over the edge, and the kid full on lashed out at society by killing people. Of course the kid should be held accountable, but reducing the kid to just simply being evil is being ignorant and allowing this shit to continue in our society. Kids like these are byproducts of a village that failed them on some level.

[@TomikaKelly]

Some people are genetically born as psychopaths.

[@jonathancupp3686]

Well that’s a load of bs. He just wants the judge to be easy on him.

[@rocotaco311]

I was kind of wondering too. But then again there is not to many people wanting the judge be easy on them. Im guessing over 90 percent give excuses or point fingers at this time hoping to persue the judge to not much time. Over and over even at parole boards. Go in with excuses or pointing fingers hoping to let them out instead of being a man and admitting to it. I hope the justice system does its job but personally do know it is 100 percent hard to get up at trial and complete 100 percent not make an excuse at sentencing. As his counslor pych in there it really made there job much easier that they getting ready to recieve someone that they wont have to waste thier first 10 years listening to lies not being able to start a real session. Huge signs that his thought pattern has already changed. Nice to know that locking someone up will actually help them instead of opposite. Usually the ones getting up there lieing and not a care in world are ones who get worse in there

[@geographylover6028]

He asked the judge to give him what ever sentence the families were seeking (life without parole). I don’t think it was to get the judge to go easy on him.

[@blake86303]

I'm betting this kid never went outside to play, probably stayed in his room playing video games.

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

Is there any record of what bullying created him ?

[@andrewtaylor7075]

Justice can never be served unless you can serve four life terms

[@CassidyPresley]

……the kid only got life + plus 24 years…….added on to his life sentence. He’ll never see the light of day………most importantly, the young man, reaped of what he sowed……into the prison system of…….,.DOOM!

[@ChristopherMichael-dw4wt]

First of all MULTIPLE LIFE SENTENCES DON'T MAKE SENSE ANYWAYS!!! What's the point of it??? It's like saying they have an extra life to live after they finally die within incarceration. Like they're going to come back to life to serve their extra life sentences or something. It just doesn't make sense. When it comes to that, just life in prison is all that's needed. That's it.

[@yvng5670]

⁠@@CassidyPresleyLearn to use grammar and how to create a sentence properly

[@yvng5670]

⁠@@CassidyPresleyLearn to use grammar and how to create a sentence properly

[@kaykayron2222]

This is a desperate cry for a kid to be seen. It is so sad and horrific what he did. His parents completely failed him.

[@bride4jesus0126]

I respect his ability to confess his sins and pray he finds Jesus Christ and discovers he can be spiritually redeemed forever. I have never heard a young teen criminal speak so, that I pray this is honest & he gets help. Prayers for the victims, families & this young man.

[@UpcomingJedi]

Looking for jesus is a waste of time as gods dont exist. None of them. Hes had 2 years to memorize all those slick lies to try to help himself against a parole board in a few years.

[@tanyasimon595]

He feels no remorse. What he's saying is utterly insincere. Ethan Crumbley was, is, and always will be a premeditating cold-blooded murderer. It's a pity that the State of Michigan does not allow the death penalty. They claim it's inhumane. And the murders Crumbley committed weren't inhumane?!

[@sandyunderpants4376]

yeah, he totally thought if he took responsibility he would be home in time to play the new Grand Theft Auto game.

[@jessicahanson7554]

What he did was deplorable..But I don't believe he alone is at fault. His parents neglected him, refused to get him the help he needs. As the parent of a child with mental health issues, I believe 100 percent that this could have been avoided. I do not think Ethan is evil. I think he is batteling demons the rest of us can't imagine. He was a child when this happened and should have been treated as a child. Life without parole for anyone under the age of 18 is unjust.

[@418cjpaul]

so he gets a college degree in prison, writes a children's book, forms a bible study group and 30 years later you want him paroled?Probably this sounds acceptable to you since you don't think he is evil....

[@ofagehomegirlbasicfemale]

In his case, his school administrators let him down as well and the other students. If his parents are to be held accountable, certain staff at his school should be too based on their actions that day in allowing him to remain in school despite their concerns and the information known at the time.

[@abbybarrett4855]

But don’t you think he has anti social personality disorder ?

[@418cjpaul]

@@abbybarrett4855

[@418cjpaul]

he probably does but so what? go through DSM-5 and you will surely find some diagnoses that fit you. but I am guessing you haven't murdered any children@@abbybarrett4855

[@zebeart8808]

"Try" does not imply commitment. He used "try" or "trying" more than once. He did not mean anything He said.

[@sandyunderpants4376]

There is no try, there is do or do not do.

[@zebeart8808]

@@sandyunderpants4376 Absolutely

[@jackbicknell4711]

This guy is so alone, so empty inside, that he is incapable, through no fault of his own, of empathising with the suffering of another soul. One can only imagine how cold his mother must have been.