Micro Apartment in Tokyo with a Terrace🏠🪴 - 15.4sqm / 165.7sqft (Ep 69)

[@usui503]

How would you rate this apartment on a scale of 1 to 10? (Spidey is giving it a 6.5.😎🕸)

[@auroras_hairpins]

7 👍👍

[@giulianomarco]

@@usui503 6.0

[@PoN4ik87]

5

[@jaynalexander9026]

I like it much more than Spidey. I give it an 8 but it would be a 10 with more height in the loft

[@TaylorSwiftsbiggestfan-ig1mo]

10! I love this apartment, especially with the stairs and the loft space! The price is also reasonable. I would definitely live here 😊

[@antrazitaj5209]

I really like the stairs situation. The space is used for 2 functions and stairs always feel better to use than a ladder

[@drunkvegangal8089]

...and with a flat chair cushion you can have more seating for visitors.

[@whyme7996]

It makes me think of a Catio

[@eh1702]

How nice to have a little terrace to sit and enjoy a book and a cup of tea. It’s all thoughtfully laid out. The stairs/window seat/storage is ingenious - and even has a handrail. It is well-appointed with fixtures and fittings, and has more storage than most micro apartments. You don’t have to sleep in the narrow part of the loft, you can put a futon at an angle. Plenty of loft storage for suitcase or hobby equipment (hidden by curtain? Less clutter.) The extra washbasin beside the stairs … it seems a waste of space to have 3 sinks in such a tiny space, but maybe local regulations require it. And the washbasin does have storage for toilet paper and cleaning supplies. You just have to remember to keep one extra roll in the toilet room!😄 One can have a life, living here!

[@Howiejj]

It’s so you can get a drink of water at night without worrying about the monsters in the other room! 👹👻

[@zzydny]

Finally! Here's an apartment that I love. That ceiling fan is wonderful. The view to the garden is lovely. The loft is spacious and usable. The space at the end of the loft is great for extra clothing storage, and it's nice that there is a place to hang a curtain in front of it. The stairs are good because there is a railing for safety, and the storage underneath is excellent. I'm not greatly fond of the basin in the living area but it's tolerable. And the lack of Toilet Paper Storage is easily overcome: use the top half of the Shoe Cupboard for TPS! This is an incredible apartment, and the price is reasonable given the location and the amenities. Definitely a place worth living in.

[@baamd]

Full ack 👍

[@veramasoero8214]

Beautiful, everything beautiful, terrace with panorama, original staircase, usable loft, large window. Basin in living room not very understandable but you can't have everything.

[@Kammy44]

@@veramasoero8214 I think this is a place to shave and put makeup on. Where else would you do these activities? I would never want to do that in a kitchen sink. Also, seems like there is better light than in the shower. I would not want to walk into a wet shower with my socks on just to do makeup. No mirror in the toilet room.

[@Kammy44]

I'm with you. The tatami mats in the loft are a good base for a futon or a memory foam mattress. That shoe cupboard would work for a pantry and laundry supplies as well. I would just use the bottom for shoes. I love the light in this apartment.

[@bethenecampbell6463]

​@@Kammy44I think that's why the vanity/basin is in the living room, but it's not an efficient use of space. You can get shower mirrors that don't fog up for men to shave in the shower. A lot of them choose to do that anyway. And a built in desk would be more useful in the living room. It would be great for putting on make up with a portable make up mirror with lights, and useful for anyone as just a desk. Overall I think this is a good apartment. Just this one element is a little off, but definitely can be worked with.

[@Sensei486]

Schönes Design der Wohnung mit den Holz elementen. Für eine Single Person vollkommen ausreichend.

Perfect. And a cats paradise. 10/10

[@bigenesis]

I absolutely love this micro apartment!

[@Angelofnine]

This may be the nicest apartment I've seen on this channel. The stairs are really clever. I would have a desk/table downstairs and cover the whole loft in a mattress with cushions and blankets for relaxing and sleeping. And a bonus terrace! Great place.

[@beth8775]

I really like this one! The storage under the stairs, the terrace area, and the loft are great. A futon bed and a floor desk would fit nicely in the loft.

[@mikaelnilsson8041]

First apartment I've seen in this series with its own "mini garden" 😍. And the rest of the apartment is nice, I could see myself living there. The rent was cheaper than I thought.

[@jinxgirl5]

It's an odd place. The sink under the stairs, and the whole stair/terrace/closet cluster in one spot. But it does feel kinda homey. The stone wall and wood floor give the terrace a kind if forest-y vibe. It feels peaceful, like sitting with a cup of coffee in the morning. The loft is low, but if you used a futon it could still be a cozy place to sleep. I would rate it a 7/10.

[@2222titia]

I actually love this apartment

[@Fishgirl321]

I’m liking everything about this! I wish there was a tub but I just Googled nearby Sento and yeah, not bad. You could walk for a bath a few times a week. Air-conditioning AND ceiling fan and patio doors you can see through and a little terrace! Win, win, win! Lovely glass in door separating kitchen. Two burners and a very good exhaust fan. So much storage, so much. I’d do futon in the loft. Those stairs and that railing are so solid looking. I’d do a sitting desk in that loft space too, low desk. A window up there! And the outside looks so nice and nit high up and what a fabulous price. This one is a solid 9/10 for me. Those patio doors make it feel spacious and light. Imagine how sweet sitting on the deck in the snow drinking a latte. Thanks so much for showing us this beauty.

[@sunnybee7573]

The stairs with storage space are my favourite solution. So much better than a wiggly ladder 👌 And the terrace is also nice for some plants and a comfy reading chair 🥰

[@wang122122]

THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST APARTMENT! 開放感

[@SusanMiner-omehi]

This is a terrific apartment. The wood tones and beautiful view are very calming. You would get wonderful natural light and great air circulation. This is it, the perfect apartment!

[@Kammy44]

I was thinking the same thing. That ceiling fan would really come in handy. I was surprised that the price wasn't higher.

[@lark5986]

Love it! No ladder, thank god. Awesome terrace. Usable loft. Nice kitchen. Reasonable rent. I rate it 8/10. Spidey says, "Let's move!"

[@mikeyc7577]

Interesting appartment. I quite like the stairs. Better than a ladder. Surprising extra outsude space which is a bonus. Since the living area is quite small, will have to use the loft for bedroom but it is quute spacious. Reasonable rental cost. Overall quite good

[@Taurus_Dragon]

I love this apartment. The huge windows bring so much natural light. The wood and it has stairs up to the loft. The terrace; such a beautiful view!!! Oh Look, there is the stand/drain for the washing machine. A must have in case of any leaks. The wash basin in the living area is not ideal. They could of put it in the wet area and still have some storage underneath it. This is the first micro apartment that I've seen with a ceiling fan. That will help circulate the cool air around during those really hot summers. A nice soft cushion bed would fit right up there to the left side and still have room for out of season clothes to be stored up there. The rent isn't bad at all considering the area. I love it all!!! Great find Usui!!!!

[@Mario760523]

Good morning from cool autumnal northern Germany. I think your video and the apartment are beautiful. The apartment is also very practical. The two-part shoe cupboard can be used for shoes downstairs and for household and daily necessities upstairs (including toilet paper). The kitchen, bathroom and shower room are small, but adequate. The sink in the living room is a curiosity, but OK. The storage options under the stairs are very practical for storage boxes like the ones you use. Your idea of ​​furnishing is very good, but I think that a bed with a low bed frame would fit in the loft space. It is unwise to use the steps with socks because of the risk of slipping; slippers are much better. The rent is pleasantly low despite the good location in Nakano-ku. 😊

[@constantineding8700]

I can totally see myself living in this tiny apartment. I like that it doesn't have a bathtub, which many other tiny apartments in japan squeeze into their limited space and make them more cramped. The only thing I want to change is to replace the kitchen door with a sliding glass one. There wouldn't be any privacy problem in such a small space and a glass one can prevent the smell getting into living area from kitchen and let the light flow back in.

[@findtherightbeat]

いつもお花の香りを嗅いでいただきありがとうございます。時々はゆっくりすることを思い出させてくれます

[@sjsjdjdsnsjdjdj2499]

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[@sjsjdjdsnsjdjdj2499]

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[@AnniekinsMyshkamouse-r4j]

There are narrow toilet paper storages that would fit to the right side of toilet. There is a lot I like about this apartment.

[@colocat9191]

8, maybe even 9 out of 10 from me. This is a really nice apartment, and the rent is reasonable. ^^

[@mai_chan2023]

nice apartment. if i were the building owner, I'd probably do away with that extra sink in the living room and just replace it with the washing machine (so that the space for washing machine in the kitchen could be used for extra countertop space), or move the staircase a little bit to leave some more room between the closet and the staircase and the terrace doorway.

[@Ordinaryworldbymary]

All in one . What a lovely house!!!❤❤❤

[@coco4564ify]

This place is great! The price is very good for the style. The loft sealing rack at the back. To hang drape to cover storage up there. Perfect for small futon smaller floor chair. And movie wall. First floor use corner desk with side desk with file cabinet. I think everyone has a ton of ideas for this place.

[@SmithCaro]

I love how this apartment has stairs to the loft instead of a ladder ... And it also has storage !!! I'd happily live here ... 😊

[@Gazmeizster_Wongatron]

This might just be my favourite apartment yet on this channel. The washbasin seems oddly placed - I would personally forgo that and just double up the kitchen sink so that the extra space could be used for a small desk - but it's not a deal-breaker and overall I love the layout of this space. Those stairs with the open storage underneath is a great idea. The large nook looks like an ideal place for a decent sized TV. I like that they provided a curtain rack upstairs in case you want to use that section for extra clothes storage. Plus you also have a bit of private outdoor space with that little terrace and the price of the rent is very reasonable too! This one's a winner for me! 👍🏻

[@redhairbun]

Welcome back! 🙂 This staircase design, despite its functionality, does not clutter up the space. In my opinion, a smart solution for a small apartment.

[@lawli56]

I really like the stairs too, so much better than a ladder. There's also room in the loft to have some floor seating and a projector for watching films, etc. as well as a futon. A lounger and some plants outside on the terrace would be nice too for enjoying a book and some fresh air. I think I just moved in. 😄😄😄

[@Zheviah]

I would put a small sofa downstairs and a little work desk on the narrow part of downstairs. Television I would put on the lowest shelve of the stairs. It's a great appartment and location is spot on!

[@jademartins1439]

This one is ✨✨ perfect ✨✨

[@Hypertropes]

That TERRACE is a dream. Think of all the tomatoes you could grow out there in the summer!

[@MsSpiffz]

That's really nice! A proper staircase to the loft, leaving space downstairs to sit. I like the door between kitchen/washing machine and the main room. And the terrace, though tiny is just enough to sit outside to read a book, and it looks out onto quite a nice space. And no heights for escape!

[@kuban_fisherman]

Одна из лучших!

[@alexb.1320]

For looks and general layout, this apartment probably makes my top 5 easily. What knocks it down from being at the top is the short loft height, video certainly doesn't convey how close to the ceiling you are up there. If I have a loft, I want to comfortably use it.

[@Daybreaq]

I actually like this one! Nice stable, safe stairs with storage underneath! The loft looks roomier than you try to indicate. I would put a regular twin mattress without a bed frame in the wider area closer to the stairs. (It looks like it would fit; and you really don’t need or want a bed frame in a loft like that.) The back narrower area of the loft would be for storage. Toilet paper could be stored in the cabinet under the sink for toothbrushing, face washing etc. (I agree it’s a bit of a pain to have toilet paper storage through two doors away from the toilet instead of in the same room as the toilet.) I don’t like the fixed gas burner; but I would get a cutting board to put over the kitchen sink for a prep area. Then about a counter height refrigerator and a microwave to put on top of it. If I had to live in a micro apt, I wouldn’t have that many shoes so I would take out the shelves from the top level of the “shoe cabinet” and put a bar on top to hang jackets. The little terrace is nice and looks big enough to put a small chair and side table. I think you tend to sometimes focus on the things you prioritize. (Ie: Bed type) That worked well back when the concept of your videos was looking for an apartment for yourself. But since you decided to stay in your apartment, but continue showing us different apartments; it might be interesting to try to show how others live in these tiny spaces. I realize that is much more difficult to do; but it would be interesting if you can recruit some people who would be willing to let you video their spaces. Like first show an empty apartment; then the apartment of someone living in an apartment in the building with the same layout to see how the space is really used.

[@RieFur]

I would get a counter height fridge as you say, but then I would also get a counter height front-loading washing machine. That way the microwave could go on either one, whichever fit better, and put a cutting board on top of the other for prep space.

[@I_am_enigma53]

@@RieFur Good idea. I'd use the top half of the shoe storage for cleaning supplies and laundry soap. Definitely need a microwave.

[@mogoshkatz4898]

It amazes me that there is almost always a dedicated spot for a clothes washer but barely any place to sleep in these micro apartments.

[@garyish]

They are hoping humans can stand and sleep like horses. Looking at people on the New York subway makes me think this is possible

[@akkedegroot4883]

Like it! The stairs look safe and the entrance/kitchen are separate.

[@zedudli]

I really really like this one! about the second sink, just cover it with a cut to measure piece of wood and voila extra countertop space. The half terrace is nice to have, and that big window is so nice! Price is good also!

[@frankandstein8618]

Well Usui, I've watched all 69 episodes and I like this one best.The stairs and the terrace are great. I could picture myself living here.

[@susanc7029]

I quite like this one. Might be my new favorite. 😊

[@Catherine-259-s5u]

This apartment is lovely!

[@joseapar]

Great price, great location, lots of storage, and a terrace! Only real concern is how useful that loft really is, but even if it was just storage space its really quite nice.

[@joseapar]

Also the hanging rod in the loft i'm pretty sure is meant to be a closet space with a curtain in front to hide your clothes.

[@tanyamassey9438]

I think this apt is a puzzle. Perfect for a student or a first apt.

[@М.П-п80я]

Очень симпатичная маленькая квартира, в которой всё продумано. Лестница стильная и удобная, есть место для хранения вещей, а уж какой чудесный сад за окном! Замечательное местечко!

[@Plum_bird]

I like this apart, lots of storage and useable space. I do which it had a tub but for the price and location it’s a great find.

[@Lori-db8vl]

I like this, separate living and sleeping space, and an outside space with a calming view. Although I like the stairs, they're beautiful, they seem to dominate the space. Perhaps a circular staircase would leave more livingroom space. And is not possible to include the sink and mirror in the shower room? Perhaps because I'm from US, it just seems odd to have a sink in the living space.

[@sophiawei4073]

Things i like abt this apartment,seperation between kitchen/bathroom area and living area, and actual enough space for decent size fridge. Although the basin is in a weird spot.. that space xould have be used for more storage space. And proper stairs!!!! And big window and outdoor spaces. I think thats suppose to be curtain rail in the loft for wardrobe... I would give 7.5 for this place

[@EdithKoepp]

Super for this price. Stairs make it very modern and clean

[@caractax.3110]

Yes! That would be mine 🥰 I love the stairs and the green outside 🤗

[@2298839082508923859]

To be fair, even sink in odd place cannot outweight "personal" terrace. 😎 You can put a board on a sink to cover it up, and use this space as makeup station or as improvised cupboard... 🤔 One of the best odd microflats so far

[@spoosieoopsie1616]

Our kitchen is fairly small (very little counter space) so my husband and I set a large cutting board over the sink to use as a counter.

[@angelatlantis1522]

I like this apartment! The space is well used, a lot of storage room, and the beautiful little terrace.

[@DianeMatlock-v6y]

The price is reasonable.😊

[@suburbohemian]

WoW! I'll take it! LOL! I love the quirky design! I could see myself in this, if it were just me. I've never heard of the dishes stored under the sink before so I'd probably get a small fridge and put shelves above it for them. I like the wash basin in the living area tho cus I like to brush my teeth and wash my hands several times a day (I like feeling clean teeth and I do messy things a lot so it's convenient). I think I'd make that lowest shelf in the storage rack in front of the window into a little seated on the floor office area. I'd have a higher eating table and chairs in the open space and a small reading chair too. I can see the loft area being both a sleeping area and a tv etc area too. I think this is my fave one yet! Ground floor with terrace and lovely view of the neighboring space plus rent isn't too much (lol, I live in Los Angeles area so even the highest rent you've shown is a steal) but this one is nicely in the middle of the rents you've shown for places. Well worth it to me!

[@schoonergirl2658]

This is a lovely apartment! So much light flooding in. Great shoe storage and enough room to get past the washer. Room for a large fridge. Your bath/toilet room is small, they should have incorporated the sink into the same area, there’s room for it. The stairs seem very sturdy and even though the outdoor space is small it’s great to have that for yourself. Spacious loft, though quite short. The rent is good for what you get. Very nice, thanks for sharing!

[@magkoc5745]

To mieszkanko jest super! Bierz!

[@trishandthecity]

I like this one. It has everything you need.

[@malkakossoy3747]

What I have in my bathroom in I gave the single roll that is being used and then there is a pole behind it to stack some extra rolls.

[@Cecily-Pimprenelle]

This is absolutely lovely !

[@giulianomarco]

"Come to Tokyo, John - we'll have a few laughs in the loft space!" Pleasant courtyard view from the balcony, but the apartment feels awkward and cramped despite its slightly larger size. The vanity unit is in the living room for personal grooming. Just room for a desk downstairs and a fouton upstairs. Price is fairly reasonable. 😁👍

[@tuffyukulele]

This is cute. I don’t know if I would go out on the small terrace though if you have to go over the stairs like that. The loft space is a little tight but overall it’s a cute place.

[@herzblut87]

Das ist bisher einer meiner Favoriten. Ich könnte mir sehr gut vorstellen dort zu leben 😊

[@Eniyfan]

As minhas partes preferidas foram, a da cozinha sem ventilação e a da escada "simplificada" que "come" um bom espaço da saleta~😂

[@mirosawagrobelny2401]

Tak jest fajne i trochę smieszne. Pozdrowienia z Polski😅😊

[@drunkvegangal8089]

Adore the greenery of the garden and terrace, the natural wood inside, the colour of the wall and ceiling is warm and cozy. Would happily live there - the rent is also reasonable. EDIT: with cushions you can have a little reading nook on top of the largest platform under the stairs - right beside the big door to the terrace.

[@witchelm3734]

This is my favourite so far, storage, stairs, ki and living area separated, lots of windows and a great rental price. The tiny terrace is an added bonus too. 😊😊

[@rosabelbentancourt8651]

Amo este apartamento!! Cómodo funcional y mucho espacio de guardado! Y a la pileta del salón le pondría una madera para poner maquillajes y pintarme ahí xq tiene el espejo!!

[@lindahasty1324]

This is a great little apartment. Very unique with the stairs and terrace. And the ceiling fan is a boost for the loft space. I'd take that top door off of the shoe closet and rearrange the shelves to make a nice little entry landing for keys, mail and such. Put a mirror in and some little fairy lights. A front loading, flat topped washing machine for extra counter space and a fridge that's short enough to add easily reachable space on top. I would get a "trunk bunk" bed platform that expands from 24 inches to 42 inches and come between five and six feet long. One of those lengths would surely fit into the space across from the stairs. That leaves the entire loft for plenty of storage. The terrace is lovely and large enough for a few plants and a bird feeder. No real need for a chair as you could easily sit on one of the steps. Thanks for finding this one for us.

[@stephd9698]

This one was really nice. Bathroom sink in the living room is not great, but we’ve had much worse 😅 nice high ceiling and a terrace!

[@bomrapaz07]

my faavorite Tokio apartment until now

[@annettefournier9655]

You would need that ceiling fan as it would be boiling up there in summer.

[@notbill08]

This one is not bad for being so tiny. The loft's narrow back could be used for storage or a reading nook. The front of the loft just needs a mattress or futon. The lower level has just enough space for a desk and a comfortable chair. The ceiling fan and stairs to the loft are huge plus.

[@TorchwoodPandP]

If you could put a desk under the stairs, and the loft space upstairs was higher - it could work.

[@senselessdreamer6583]

I like it ,like the loft space , etc , thumb's up .

[@EVL-xj5vc]

I find most japanese kitchen countertop has no food prep space. I had to use the sink when i was cooking in my apartment. Quite a challenge.

[@neverwares]

I actually really love this one. I think it might be my new favourite

[@EVL-xj5vc]

The full glass window and open staircase makes the space bright and bigger. It's actually v nice. Ill probably use the loft for friends gathering and spend most of the time downstairs.

[@ACHg1989]

I love this, you have all the spaces you need. You can actually just sit at the stairs while reading plus you have a view and natural sunlight.

[@СоваКошкина]

Это хорошая квартира❤ Текстура дерева в интерьере добавляет уюта. И большие окна! Люблю большие окна! Терраса это тоже замечательно! Даже маленькая. Благодарю за видео😘

[@kanealoha]

This place really has a lot to offer. The location is great, to start. Then the large window and stair design really open up the space, making it feel bigger than it is (with that lovely view cementing the deal). The loft ceiling height is low, but given the micro apartment status, a futon of some type would be sufficient, along with the storage provided by that space. The kitchen functions well and the shoe rack is large enough. The washing machine pokes out a bit too far into the entrance, but that seems to be not uncommon. The toilet and shower are average and seem a bit worn. Finally, the price felt reasonable. I’d give this place a go if I were looking.

[@AkH23718]

Heck YES. More of these units with stairs/ storage combo please. 👏🏻Literally the best way to utilize space. This one in particular is nice with how it still allows for natural light to seep in even if it’s somewhat crammed with stuff.

[@marcelapassos1700]

Tomar um café da manhã nesse terraço,vendo a vista,é um presente.Casa top👍👏❤.

[@myfyp2]

I like that the stairs have handrail. It is safer. The terrace is nice. The neighbour's garden is beautiful, with trees and shrubs, and the terrace can be used for drying clothes and for relaxing.

[@suzyh4479]

I really like this apartment. Nicely laid out, good use of space. Stairs/storage a nice touch. Outside space is useable. Rent is not bad. I would rent this apartment in a heartbeat!

[@notconvincedgranny6573]

I can't believe...I actually like this one! I'll bet lots of uni students would rather have this than a shared dorm room. And those of us whose kids are adults and don't want a lot to take care of would love it too.

[@llm549]

I am getting pretty good, I guessed ¥82,000 a month!! I like the stairs and the loft!! ....and the knife holder!😂

[@shivangimangal2087]

Amazing ❤

[@KarenDean2024]

For some reason, I like it, even though the use of some space is awkward! The price is not bad either.

[@BrewBadger]

I love the terrace and the lighting. Loft for sleeping isn't happening for me. Nice price and location.

[@faithbooks7906]

I would that use sink as a planter! I actually like this apartment and most of them make me feel claustrophobic. The big glass door is wonderful and I love the little terrace. I would stick a futon mattress at the very front of the loft so I would feel less hemmed in and then use the back of the loft for books and clothes. I’d be okay with crawling! I would stick a small counter level island in the downstairs just to have a surface to cook on. Maybe put a sturdy folding chair there too. There’s lots of nice storage space. I would put up shelves in the bathroom for toilet paper. Nice micro apartment!

[@wauwi3350]

Gosh,this is so awesome,and on top the view and the terrace❤❤❤ my favorite so far😊

[@gaston01000]

This is on another level... and at another price... XD

[@nuggetpai]

I like this apartment, It looks very modern. The bathroom situation is not ideal, but it has a ton of natural light, the loft has a window and there's even a little terrace. The stair storage is very smart and unique.

[@maryseflore7028]

I can totally see myself living in there! I'm in love! This is, literally, 4 distincts rooms, plus terrace... I so wish we had that where I live!

[@Cyliem]

THE PRICE?!?!?? I'll take that omg 10:50 maybe those are for drying clothes

[@DawnDavidson]

Hanging clothes (on the back bar), I think, and hiding them behind a curtain?

[@malkakossoy3747]

Like the shower tile. Like the set up. Like the steps going up. Not sure what the extra sink is doing there.

[@bluebird41978]

Ooh that space under the stairs would make a cozy reading nook! The price isn’t too bad either for what you get. This is definitely in the top 3 for me