Mid Handicap Hybrid Fitting - Average Swing Speed

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txg.ca - Fitting Ronnie for new hybrids as he looks to reduce the hook and gain carry distance.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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[@TheSitDownCommedian]

I am a simple man, i see a TXG upload i click, constant quality, every single video, come to Australia and fit me up for clubs please

[@oldgold5848]

I like seeing the occasional video with a golfer closer to my ability than the Termattator, it reminds me that us mere mortals don't always flush it 300 yds on the carry

[@Murf1802]

Idk this videos a year old not sure you get these comments this late ,,whatever,,, Ian your the F,,,,,, man bro with our a doubt you know I see right thru bull and your as humble as they come a true Gentleman ,,your parents must be great people ,,they did a great job my man !!!! Love the show all facts boys no nonsense good for you two !!!! Peace brothers !!!!!

[@shayfeleez]

Ian is honestly a wizard or something. It's insane.

[@claytonjohnston25]

Kevin Gonyo no doubt! I would love to have him fit me for a set of clubs!

[@michaelroyle9750]

Love these sessions with Ron, so informative. This has got to be the ultimate experience for any golfer. Well done TXG.

[@timothydaniels504]

I have exactly the same issue as Ron and almost the same iron yardages. When you’re in your new facility in Mississauga, I’ll be heading in to see Chris and company. I have the C6 shaft in my Rogue driver and it’s completely changed that part of my game for the better. It feels like a secret weapon. Thank you as always for great information. Your presentation of things is in a league of it’s own.

[@seanhaynes4609]

Absolutely love the mid handicap fittings! Keep up the great work fellas!

[@FenwayJoe7129]

I love watching these fitting sessions. Just love the way you guys take care of business.

[@justinstephenson9360]

Best ever season at 64, that gives me hope and I am a decade younger. I love hybrids. I recently got fitted for G410s in 19 degree & 23 degrees. I was astonished about how much longer they were than my 19 degree F7 hybrid - the 23 degree Ping is at least as long, probably 5 yards longer, than the F7 (which was only a couple of years old). TM M6 is another really impressive hybrid for me. Like Ronnie I struggle a bit with the 5i - I may swap it out for another hybrid say around 26-27 degrees

[@FenwayJoe7129]

I love the Taylormade M 6 hybrids. I have a complete set of them. They completely put my game in a really great place. I tried the Ping G 410's but strangely enough they were not as good of a match for me. I just didn"t hit them as well. I am curious as to the why. I might not ever know. Spider Dubiel

[@billlyl3725]

Can I please be Ronny when I grow up? (Who am I kidding? I’m just 10 years behind him). Great vid and congrats to Ronnie on his advancement!

[@lhk1951]

Every single video you guys do is so worth the watch. Informative, your chemistry is amazing and you are able to translate complex info into practical advice. Keep up the great work guys!

[@whogg0521]

This was great again and nice to see an "average" golfer get fit. Although his shot shape was pretty darn good and consistent. Ok, enough already. Pack up the shop, move it to So Cal and come take my money. Ribs and beer are still on the table as well.

[@jaredliebergen1179]

I like the mid-handicap tests. Well done!

[@jaredliebergen1179]

A what's in the bag for a mid-handicapper would be nice

[@mikecook8059]

Great video! You guys always seem to come up with the proper adjustments based on the strengths / weakness of the player!!! Well done!

[@whiskerrub]

It always come to mind when watching the Tour Experience Golf Fitting if an option is available to document your fitting as part of the experience? Has this ever been looked into at TXG I say this because the level of interaction between fitter and player is incredible. Thanks Ron Matty and Ian appreciate the looking glass into a fit at TXG. 👍

[@jaycrabtree4185]

Thanks for the quick response.

[@HarryLivestream]

What a great video indeed! I would love to be fitted by these guys! They know their stuff so well- respect!

[@banditbaker1675]

Are we having a Party when Ronnie the Rocket gets to single figures? Whisker can bring the Party hats and I will bake the Cake lol Being of a similar age to Ronnie I always look forward to his Fittings to see how similar our Club setup is. I dropped my 5 Iron this year and now have 6 Iron, 22deg and 19deg hybrids and find that gives me the correct gapping and eliminates any duplication in the Bag.

[@jeremyyelland3944]

Recently had a Hybrid fitting. Nailed it first combo. F9 speedback 19 degree hybrid with VA Drago 65 stiff hybrid shaft. Thing is incredible. You guys fitting many into the F9 hybrids? So easy to hit. VA Drago shafts as well 👌🏻

[@FenwayJoe7129]

This was fascinating. The choices for myself came down to Ping G 410s or Taylormade M 6 hybrids. Now I play a complete set of hybrids. For myself I found that I hit the M 6 hybrids insanely better. They are a much better match for me. I find myself wondering why I hit the M 6 hybrids so much better. I am a senior and don't have a huge swing speed but I do okay. Recently I fitted myself with some help to a Taylormade M 6 Type D driver. I figured I needed a light senior shaft and tried a couple of the options. Ended up with the Evenflow red one. That helped the driver come alive for me. I am blown away by the accuracy too. Between the Taylormade hybrids and driver my game is in tremendous shape now. I was one over par my last round. I also added a # 5 Ping G 410 wood to the bag which is an adjustable wood. Nice review gentlemen. This is wonderful stuff. If you were in Connecticut I would be visiting you guys for sure. Be well and thanks for another amazing video Ian and Matt. Spider Dubiel

[@davidhyland6462]

I recently got a callaway rogue ladies 36 degree 8 hybrid head custom fit into a stiff men's shaft. Absolutely love the club. I'm hitting it from (140-125). You might want to try one! What do you use at the driver end of your bag?

[@FenwayJoe7129]

@@davidhyland6462 I know exactly what that is. I have seen it at Golfers warehouse locally. Thats a very nice club Spider Dubiel

[@FenwayJoe7129]

@@davidhyland6462 I had the Taylormade M 6 type D driver for a while. I liked the way it played but was not crazy about the adjustment set up on it. My fitter decided to have me try a Ping G 410 Plus driver and thats finally what I ended up with. I am using one now but the shaft is almost 46 inches , way too long for a guy who is 5 ft 7 inches. My fitter is having Ping make me the G 410 plus driver with the 40 gram Distanza shaft at 44 inches even.

[@juanr.rodriguez3109]

Great video. You fittings are always great to see and learn. BUT, being 50 years old I find that the MMC is forgiving and swing transition and ball position has to be looked at for this guy for better results. Swing coach never hurts 👍👍

[@scottgibbs7235]

Great video. Interesting to see how you work around his swing speed and lack of spin.

[@thebikepackingadventurer]

Great video. I have just started playing golf this year in June. My handicap hovers around 11-12 now, and I think it is time for a custom fit of clubs, as I am currently using old irons lent to me by friends. Shame I am not in the US otherwise I would definitely come see you guys, as I have enjoyed your videos the last couple of months. I will find a good local fitter to me, and hopefully they have a similar setup to you with the wide array of shafts/clubs to try, as I am not bothered by brand, just something that is suited to me.

[@jeremykorting6982]

Interested to see what's coming down the pipe that you guys referenced in the end. Also nice see talk of bag set up now a days being more untraditional. Mine definitely isn't - mini driver, and hybrids 2 thru 7, then 3 wedges and a putter. Strange indeed but works for me and gives me confidence.

[@danielwinterbottom5531]

Love the video. I definitely need to think about what kind of irons i want as my next set and how they blend witg hybrid and wedges

[@priayief]

I am a REALLY old golfer. Although I like the hybrids, I have big time problems keeping the ball low (into the wind) that I could do much more easily in my younger days... like I did with by 2, 3 and 4 irons.

[@norwegianwarhound451]

You guys must be mind readers or something. This came at a great time! I'm currently playing my Cleveland 588 Forged CB's and ball striking has improved dramatically. The 5 iron is 27 degrees and is about 160 carry. I have three spots to fill between it and the driver which is 220-230 carry. A little lost on how I should approach this and the gapping. Any recommendations would be great. Keep up the great work fellas! Best golf content on KZbin!

[@clubchampionmedia]

High lofted fairway and two hybrids would likely do the trick

[@norwegianwarhound451]

@@clubchampionmedia Much appreciated. Hoping to knock one off my bucket list and make the trip up from Iowa for a fitting someday. Thanks again!

[@davek5069]

Great video guys. Really highlights when a player should transition from irons to hybrids based on swing speed/trajectory etc. Curious as to length of the new hybrids in contrast to the length of his 6 iron. Cheers

[@ryanrichardson9915]

I got rid of my 5-iron in my P790's as it's at 26.5 degrees, and go to a 4 udi (23*) at a 5-iron +1/2" length. Then a 21* GAPR set at 20*.... It works perfectly!! Who knew?

[@davidsegal2236]

Would you do a video on your store? Videos on your showroom, bays, workshop, etc. plus an idea of what brands you carry. I’m very interested in your store. Why have you not opened in the US? I’ve been to so many shops for fittings but no one seems to be as good as you. Please consider coming to the US. I’d fly there for a fitting.

[@TenPester]

Do you have any folk you can recommend in Scotland? Canada is a bit far lol

[@bazkeen]

On another subject.. just watching Alex Etches hit a Callaway forged 4 iron. Trying to hit it 270 yards. A bit of a challenge for you. Could make an interesting video

[@ianfrasergolf]

Basil Keen easy work!!

[@theatxguy]

I always enjoy your videos!

[@MurphyGreg]

Great video that so many of us average speed hitters can relate too. What is Ronnie’s full bag set up?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Ping G410 driver, G20 7 wood, now G410 hybrids, Mizuno MP-18 MMC irons, Ping Glide wedges

[@Not_To_Golf_Is_Not_An_Option]

Hi guys, I would be interested to see if you can include XXIO in your reviews. They seem to be great for the mid hcp and mid swing speed players. I borrowed the x driver from my club pro and even without fitting I almost hit any fairway, coming from a solid slice 😊 I was very surprised.

[@martint8017]

Loved the video and although I'm 20 years younger than Ronnie I feel a connection through our scores. I play 3-6 in hybrids and it's helped bring my scores down from 100-110 to mid 80's-mid 90's My hybrids & irons are over 10years old and I'll look to replace in the winter. Is it wrong to start the fitting for the hybrids and go as high as possible before then setting up the irons? I know the new Epic Flash hybrids go all the way to 8. I'm not really interested in shaping my shots, more hitting a consistent shape. Thanks

[@bobpfaff2258]

The message as stated is use what works for you and your comfortable with. there is nothing wrong with a placebo either. I think it was Sam Snead or someone of that vintage who played a real “hotch potch” of irons purely based on comfort and what worked. Later when the swing weights were tested they were all the same.

[@thomasbatten296]

For anyone... I'm +1" in 4-PW after a fitting. Looking into a 3 hybrid at 19* for in between woods and 4 iron. Should the hybrid be 1" over standard as well? Not too familiar with hybrid lengths.

[@trevorgaddy5947]

Hey Ian, when is the next time you think you will be in California?

[@clubchampionmedia]

I have no idea. Depends on the borders reopening.

[@juun9]

Is it ok to use a fairway wood shaft on a hybrid head? Thank you.

[@Craig0935]

Went to my local golf store to find a 7-wood.. boy where they far and few between

[@dgreen8388]

I'm just curious if you guys have him hitting the same size/style grips he's normally accustomed to hitting for these fittings? I know if I try to hit one of my buddy's clubs and the grip size/composition is different, it definitely affects the outcome of my result.

[@tomross2666]

Respectfully, it seems to me that a higher lofted fairway wood would be better here, such as the G410 9 wood. I think Ronnie’s descent angle could be much improved with a wood over a hybrid.

[@davidhyland1808]

I agree it would definitely be something I'd like to see them test. But there's no guarantee that will lead to more consistency. The longer shaft and less control may actually lead to the opposite. I have a m6 9 wood myself and I love the height and dispersion, but it may soon be leaving my bag. Inconsistent strikes are leading me to look for the same loft hybrid.

[@tellwilliams2551]

What driver gives you the most fade bias. The best of luck I’ve had is M1 2016 do you have a better option for me

[@thegingerstig7387]

What model was the mizuno ball.

[@thegingerstig7387]

Got it

[@paulbown3960]

Question for you boys, how come when I demo irons I only ever normally have the option to hit one iron from the set? I would love to be able to hit a PW, 7 iron and 4 iron before I make my choice!

[@clubchampionmedia]

Uncommon to have full sets available for demo, most shops fit off the 6 or 7 iron. Logistically just not realistic to carry more irons for each of the many models carried. (especially somewhere like TXG with 30+ models)

[@ianfrasergolf]

Hey Paul, at TXG, we have 110 iron shafts. We would need 330 shafts if we carried 4i, 7i and PW.

[@paulbown3960]

Ian Fraser Completely understand but buying a whole set of irons based on one irons performance can be hard! For instance currently play Titleist CB’s and have never hit a 4 iron better from that set. I never knew I would get on so well with that 4 iron after hitting the demo 7 iron. Now I’m thinking of moving on to something a little softer but I’m worried I won’t find another 4 iron like that. Keeping the 4 iron is the obvious solution!

[@ianfrasergolf]

Paul Bown It needs to be part of the club fitters skill set to determine whether the player has the appropriate delivery/speed to make the set work at the recommended composition.

[@jaycrabtree4185]

Can the Ping G410 be bent to increase or decrease loft independent of the incremental hosel adjustments?

[@clubchampionmedia]

loft can be adjusted, but it comes with face angle changes

[@jaycrabtree4185]

Does this mean if I had it bent stronger it would skew right (right handed golfer), and could this be mitigated by moving it to the + lie setting on the hosel?

[@lucasshipsides1510]

what did Ian spill on his shirt

[@jordan9664]

This dude is cool

[@tomjohnson6149]

Ian, in the interest of full disclosure, is Ronnie an investor in your business?

[@clubchampionmedia]

No

[@KeatonSmiley]

I only clicked on this for the ping answer hybrid. What a great club

[@DuTch_-0-]

His feet position on the videos to me looked way inside his shoulders, if he widened his position wouldn't it help him with his launch and power?

[@ljigga]

For someone who isn't a consistent ball striker, would it be worth it to come in for a fitting?

[@banditbaker1675]

One word answer, YES! Being fitted into the correct clubs (for you) will help you swing more consistently and improve your Ball striking.

[@Magicmeatbag]

It makes a huge difference.

[@timothydaniels504]

I’ll add my voice to Bandit Baker’s. I had similar misgivings but I can’t even begin to tell you how much I’ve learned about my swing and how much fitting has done for me. They call it fitting but it’s so much more as well. They take you and your golf very seriously.

[@banditbaker1675]

Cheers Tim, Great input. I hope that it helps ljigga and gives him the confidence to go and get fitted.

[@ljigga]

Thanks guys! I will definitely schedule a fitting in that case!

[@sheedy9]

I think people should get fitted to what they want to be not what they happen to be now..

[@sheedy9]

@@BlakLanner no I mean in terms of lie angle really, with the guy playing here, his weight seems too ahead of the ball at address and impact, which when he changes that will alter lie angle at impact. But if he's not making any changes then its grand to fit as is. But when he moves his weight more centrally he will start hitting it much higher with more carry and will have much different hands at address and Impact??

[@sheedy9]

@@BlakLanner and I don't believe that, if they clubs are set to whatever ideal your aiming for it will encourage you to swing who you want by rewarding you with a good shot! But fair point it's hourses for courses!!

[@thisjustanother]

Talking about his oldest club is 5 years old. Here I am with ping i3s...

[@dboyswitten82]

i consistently shoot in the low to mid 90s and I have always wondered if getting fitted is worth it at my current state? Or should I try to get those numbers down before getting that done? Any feedback is appreciated. All of my current golf buddies are worse than me and just starting out so they don't have much of a opinion lol.

[@clubchampionmedia]

100% worth it, a large percentage of the golfers we fit are in that scoring range

[@davewilkins2459]

Precept ladies ball. Are balls like this good? 10 handicap 63 yrs old, male.

[@strykeryeh5601]

Between the #6I to #4I , instead of replacing these with a Hybrid which is longer and more difficult to get it up in the air for the average Joe with a slower swing speed, how about fitting a DLR that feels like (iron length) and plays like the Mizuno Fli Hi #4 or #5?

[@2009Stefon]

Hybrids are easier to get the ball in the air compared to irons and even chunky irons due to their weight being stretched back.

[@brodygoalie]

He needs a lesson to get his right heal off the ground and get his weight to the left side!