Minecraft's Global Ban System is Terrifying...

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Fizzy Banger

Fizzy Banger

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@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, please be civil while discussing this in the comments! Many people have been noticeably angry at the upcoming features, but toxicity has no place here, nor should people be overly toxic towards Mojang over this situation. There are ways to express your disagreement without being toxic. Thanks :)
@lilruni
@lilruni 2 жыл бұрын
No replys or am i early? And i will not update to 1.19.1
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilruni yeah, you're really early :)
@ltstheprogamer
@ltstheprogamer 2 жыл бұрын
OK :D
@freakinhp
@freakinhp 2 жыл бұрын
me liking fizzy's new kind of content
@Meme-rk9iv
@Meme-rk9iv 2 жыл бұрын
I heard of about this problem
@GravityDefyingTiger
@GravityDefyingTiger 2 жыл бұрын
I play Bedrock and this is why I’ve switched 100% to using outside messaging and/or voice chatting. With how vague their criteria are I’m not going to risk it. I’m Australian, half my everyday vocabulary consists of what some would call “profanity” 😅
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
as a fellow Australian, I get you ahaha
@1staccount449
@1staccount449 2 жыл бұрын
As a brit who lives in australia i understand all of you
@Gjjasra
@Gjjasra 2 жыл бұрын
I am a indian and i also play mcbe .i also always prefer calling or playing close to eachother on a laptop to play with my brother
@cat_in_a_fish_bowl
@cat_in_a_fish_bowl 2 жыл бұрын
Happy ps4 noises
@YaoiCocaine1
@YaoiCocaine1 2 жыл бұрын
As a romanian i can fell your pain
@blosee
@blosee 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like anarchy servers will be in trouble when they update to the latest version
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, a lot of servers will probably hold off on updating, particularly the public ones with little to no moderation already.
@berneymark
@berneymark 2 жыл бұрын
There will be a lot of servers I’m sure who decide to make 1.19 their last ever update thanks to this :(
@IDKisReal2401
@IDKisReal2401 2 жыл бұрын
Normal servers will have just as much problems, people with mass reporting mods being basically undetectable on the server side
@Gjjasra
@Gjjasra 2 жыл бұрын
Its good there are mods that prevent this
@nonnykarpalt1552
@nonnykarpalt1552 2 жыл бұрын
2b2t :(
@Nathator97
@Nathator97 2 жыл бұрын
unless an account is doing something illegal, there should NOT be any bans made by Mojang/Microsoft. I am a Minecraft server owner and it is MY job (and the people I hire to help me with my job) to protect the players of my server from actions like profanity, bullying, etc. After all, I pay for the server right? If I'm paying for it doesnt that mean I can do whatever I want with it? I have a bunch of friends who can do almost anything with plugins. One of them even figured out how to bypass the migration by using a custom server.jar. I am 100% sure that my friend can find a way to bypass this. After all, the EULA does allow us to modify the game in any way we want :)
@cosmicsvids
@cosmicsvids 2 жыл бұрын
I guess this system stops players from breaking the rules on other servers once they get banned but if some server has mods that ban people for no good reason that could back fire.
@Nathator97
@Nathator97 2 жыл бұрын
@@cosmicsvids but thats not mojang/microsoft's responsibility. The one who pays for the server is supposed to enforce his own server's rules.
@cosmicsvids
@cosmicsvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nathator97 Yes but the problem with that is then people will make servers with no rules or allow stuff that is illegal honestly this system would be fine if it was only used for those things.
@My_Old_YT_Account
@My_Old_YT_Account 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to modify the server jar, you just need the players to use a launcher that allows them to play such as PolyMC or Lunar Client
@chaoticclonestudios
@chaoticclonestudios 2 жыл бұрын
Microsofts system should be saved for nocom exploit level problems (to specify systems that make people feel unsafe to even play the game) also yes I'm calling this Microsofts ban system I don't believe Mojang made this decision
@checkmate1284
@checkmate1284 2 жыл бұрын
Never update to 1.19. Chat messages before that version are unsigned and thus cannot get you banned. Just never play on 1.19 or higher.
@tinywrapper
@tinywrapper 2 жыл бұрын
The most affected people with this update will be youtubers because people will mass report them as a joke and can get falsely banned
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, maybe not a good time to have KZbinr rank on servers lmao. Hopefully Mojang actually does something to prevent false bans, or just doesn't add the new system if they can't prevent them.
@itzangel0735
@itzangel0735 2 жыл бұрын
I think Java edition does not need this, private server has moderation and plug-ins and realms have owners and are mostly to play with friends. This ban system will just make trouble for the players and knowing how terrible is the Mojang Support system this will be a mess.
@porkyminch1640
@porkyminch1640 2 жыл бұрын
don't worry java edition is able to bypass their bullshit.
@zp3x_427
@zp3x_427 2 жыл бұрын
@@porkyminch1640 its called Germans xd
@mcbe357
@mcbe357 2 жыл бұрын
Java needs to be discontinued
@itzangel0735
@itzangel0735 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcbe357 How to kill Minecraft forever. Step 1:
@sussybaka7198
@sussybaka7198 2 жыл бұрын
I think the punishment for inappropriate chat should be mute chat it be way better punster
@herowither12354
@herowither12354 2 жыл бұрын
When the hacked clients with auto report features are released, people need to start using them all the time until Mojang gets rid of the report system.
@strlke
@strlke 2 жыл бұрын
Or all report spammers Might get banned from launcher or mc idk
@toadstars
@toadstars 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this was well-intentioned or not. But if I look at this in a pessimistic way, this is to increase financial gain for Microsoft. They don't actually care about what kids see, but they care when parents are buying Minecraft for their kids. So they make it look appealing to kids, with a chat filter and reporting. Privately owned servers are for fun and do not give Microsoft monetary gains. So they need to police servers that they don't own which discourages more mature players from playing. Also, since kids don't know how to make their own private servers, they buy Realms, which gives Microsoft monetary gain. And also, players are banned easily (sometimes false banned) and do not implement a good appeal system, so players need outright buy new accounts, thus increasing the monetary gain for Microsoft. And once you're banned, you need to manually cancel Realms subscriptions yourself instead of them being canceled automatically (Like, seriously? Paying for something you can't use?). If they're doing this for financial gain, the only way to get them to stop is to cause them financial losses. If this is well-intentioned, I think this is overkill. You shouldn't get banned from all online play because you have done something bad on one server, or even on single player! Remember, this is a game where players can do whatever they want! Players in their own servers make their own rules, they tell the others what other players can or can't do on their own server! Not Microsoft! If Microsoft really cares about its younger audiences, they should instead add a toggleable chat filter and parental controls and make it so that servers can set their own age ratings, so a kid won't stumble upon a server for more mature players.
@I-LyenaPSN
@I-LyenaPSN Жыл бұрын
Imagine getting perma banned globally for cursing out your friend in a private world -_- I'd actually shit
@toadstars
@toadstars Жыл бұрын
@@I-LyenaPSN Yep
@KatOnline
@KatOnline 2 жыл бұрын
the only ban reports allowed should be the ones that are illegal violations such as doxing someone's personal information, sending virus links and grooming minors. Players that do these illegal acts should also have an investigation report on their IP's if it's not hidden by a VPN because players like that are too dangerous to just be roaming around the internet. Anything else whether that's bullying, cursing, hate speech, hacking, spamming, and real-life threats should be only punishable within the servers they violated and be completely up to server moderators on what they want to do to these rule breakers on their server. These violations involve a lot more context and only deserving to be banned from the server where they violated those rules.
@oakchips
@oakchips 2 жыл бұрын
With how 1.17 and 1.19 packed out as updates by Mojang i am concerned for 1.20 i get that they have good intentions but this is not looking good for the game
@bobchipman4473
@bobchipman4473 2 жыл бұрын
There is no way they have good intentions. This is just excuse to engage in power tripping and to sell people new accounts.
@oakchips
@oakchips 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobchipman4473 they like that sweet money i think they'll also force everyone that had/has a Mojang account - even if they migrated - will have to buy a new one because of 'security risks'
@tomasaurs
@tomasaurs 2 жыл бұрын
They should allow realm and server creators to enable 18+ or whatever the age to allow swearing on their own server. Kinda like badwolf the players will have to verify their age. Also it should not happen on private servers, I don't see a point to that.
@roadrunner5549
@roadrunner5549 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sending Microsoft a picture of my ID
@Jadee95
@Jadee95 2 жыл бұрын
@@roadrunner5549 they probably already have a copy
@PhantomGato-v-
@PhantomGato-v- 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's a problem. I have seen backlash on this pretty much over every little corner of YT. Hope Mojang treats this like the f**kup it is.
@gpu3050ti
@gpu3050ti 2 жыл бұрын
This will change the game forever... for the worse, and here's why: • A vulnerability has been found that allows non-existent messages to be attached to a complaint. This allows you to change the context of the player's messages, expose him as an intruder and block him from online play for no reason. There is no guarantee that this vulnerability is the first and last, so you can expect massive bans on KZbinrs' accounts. • Many categories of complaint limit freedom of speech rather than protect players. For example: - Alcohol may be mentioned in role play or adult conversation, but the Drugs and Alcohol category does not make an exception for such cases. - On servers with PvP and anarchy, players often use the words "detonate" or "kill", which falls under the category of "Threat of harm". Mojang claims to be aware of this, but recent cases of player bans prove otherwise. They are collected in (this article). • The system of complaints blocks the player not only on version 1.19.1, but also on all versions up to 1.6. • Fear of the new system will lead to a huge drop in online servers, which can subsequently lead to the death of Minecraft. Only you Minecraft players can stop this. #saveminecraft
@gpu3050ti
@gpu3050ti 2 жыл бұрын
@@cewla3348 The system or algorithm of banning can count it as a breaking the rules. A bunch of situations happened according to that. I can send you an article which is showing you a false banning when players got banned while playing in realms, so it also appears for hypixel. Even if they'll improve filtering system of messages, we should mention about other points that I've mentioned above.
@LandorneChocolates
@LandorneChocolates 2 жыл бұрын
As a bedrock player, I didn’t even know bedrock has a global ban system. I think that the minecraft community has been spoiled as most other games have had a similar system for years. There shouldn’t be permabans and the max should be like 2 weeks so even if you get falsely banned, it isn’t a huge deal
@Finoid_
@Finoid_ 2 жыл бұрын
same
@titan7789
@titan7789 2 жыл бұрын
I mean if it's a private server you paid for,i don't think that's fair lol.
@Irreverent_Radiation
@Irreverent_Radiation 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine what a few hackers with bot accounts could do in a public server. Sending thousands of reports for every single player, every second... Yeah "manually review", let's see how they deal with that
@jimbobsclayworld2439
@jimbobsclayworld2439 2 жыл бұрын
Just look what happened to the LBP (Little big planet) severs from a similar hack (code was injected into the game to make it upload thousands of levels a second), So such a hack won’t just falsely ban people...
@HalfFang
@HalfFang 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should add a way to check or uncheck this system So like two types of servers Servers that have this system will filter out any players that are banned from this global system Servers that benefit - smaller servers that are just starting out with little moderation teams, Servers hosting minors, etc. Servers that down will not Servers that benefit - Servers with high moderation already, Anarchy, etc.
@destidrawings
@destidrawings Жыл бұрын
The thing I hate about it the most is that anyone could false ban anyone at any given chance. There are just some people who end up banning players for no reason. I am a bedrock player and it is really stressful playing online. In bedrock, if you get banned (whether it be real or fake), you can't play single player or online. However on java, if you get banned (whether it be truly banned or false banned) you still get to play single player. I have no idea if people at mojang is actually reading the ban reports, or just letting some robot read them. I really don't want to lose my save on minecraft. I really hope that mojang fixes or does something to help java and bedrock players to not get actually punished for being false banned. I really don't want to be upset at mojang for this chat reporting update to java, I would also not want anyone else to be toxic to mojang either. They are doing their best to help the players deal with this nonsense. I would still want mojang to release a patch, update or something to change getting punished for being false banned by someone.
@davidtull452
@davidtull452 2 жыл бұрын
Microsoft said they have to take all situation seriously and in context so if you just say the F word and chat out of frustration is taken as you said it to another person and it’s unacceptable that Microsoft can permanently banned you from Minecraft just because you swore it’s not fair it’s the most ridiculous thing ever.
@tenshi.kurama
@tenshi.kurama 2 жыл бұрын
they could have just taken away their ability to use the chat system. a perma mute would be preferable to banning
@mavg8er158
@mavg8er158 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't like the idea of this. My server is hosted by me completely, so basically its my computer that I am using to run a server. They have no right to control who can and cannot join. Besides the server is whitelisted so its only me and some other high schoolers, but apparently if I or another player says something that Microsoft doesn't like they are gone. I'm definitely not updating my server to 1.19.1 unless I see some serious change cause I like to have control of my own computer thank you. That's a bit if an exaggeration but you get the point. I just thought id voice my opinion since I know a decent amount about running a server.
@plootyluvsturtle9843
@plootyluvsturtle9843 2 жыл бұрын
this is literally one of the WORST features i’ve EVER seen being implemented in a game, seriously banning from single player too.
@psu_benny
@psu_benny 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you can just log off or turn off chat if you dont wanna see that stuff. This is so stupid and if this gets implemented millions will leave multiplayer, ruining the game.
@8-ball459
@8-ball459 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping the smp I'm in doesn't get affected cause our main way of talking to each other is chatting
@venumV2
@venumV2 2 жыл бұрын
being permanently banned from single player and private servers is a step too far. Hell this whole system is an over step i hate it. I will never play on 1.19 and above
@rtem1s542
@rtem1s542 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like a lot of players who get banned/kicked in servers will mass report mods and admins because they have a grudge against them. this is bad news to me as im a mod on a server. hopefully they'll have something against it
@Ishan.khanna
@Ishan.khanna 2 жыл бұрын
For every 1 person backing this up there's 20 against it
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
I think there are many people in the middle too. They have things they support about the system, but also things they hate about it. You are right tho, there are barely any people in complete support of the change.
@squidbluie6813
@squidbluie6813 2 жыл бұрын
I run my own servers and events. Often things get very heated and people get crazy, but as a server host this has me terrified.
@mr.dinogaming8306
@mr.dinogaming8306 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so about 10 days ago I got banned for a week on Minecraft bedrock. I waited through, not knowing what I did because it doesn’t tell you (which I think is a big flaw) and so then I got unbanned in a week. I get on the private realm with one of my friends. And I get on daily and all we are talking about is his new pc with RTX and how cool it is and just what we are doing in Minecraft like making a sculk farm. And last night, I log on after I got on *just and hour ago* and I was again, banned for a week. I haven’t been on any servers, talked to anyone other than my friend, which we have been friends for 5 years. I am really frustrated and so is my friend. We were making a huge build and now that’s stopped for the whole week. I worked on the Minecraft website last night to try and appeal my ban because I know I didn’t do anything, but obviously I did something minor in our private world. I’ve worked on appealing my ban for a while now and I found something close but I don’t know if it will work. That’s my problem with it all. And a bonus: I didn’t know that you could get permanently banned on Minecraft bedrock. Now I’m afraid it’s 3 bans and ur banned forever. Now I’m afraid to play on the world, on any servers, or anything because I don’t wanna be banned. Thank you for reading my rambling but Minecraft’s ban system NEEDS to change.
@MrEree
@MrEree 2 жыл бұрын
Although the new system is meant with good intentions, I'm not a fan of it. Especially because in the ten years without this system it went pretty well. I think that server owners should be able to have control over how they manage their servers. Also the false bans are quite terrifying.
@prathamsharma69
@prathamsharma69 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't like the new policy because the problem is bad but the way of doing is absolute garbage, I hope they change so that if someone offensively curses or becomes offensive detected by the robot with good coding can actually help instead of being misused...
@JamescraftAim
@JamescraftAim 2 жыл бұрын
For me I am lucky that I mostly only play on realms with trusted friends and solos. But I do see it as a bad thing in a sense for the people that don’t do anything and they falsely report.
@cubilon603
@cubilon603 2 жыл бұрын
I have an idea: could you make a fabric and forge mod with just keys every message and replace every letter of a word clientside and sends another message to the server and for others who use this mod as well they will unkey the message automaticly and just notice nothing? If we would use this as complete mc community we would make a huge step forward in the fight with Microsoft. We could also make a plug-in which works with the mod and unkeys the message after sent to the server.
@JNJNRobin1337
@JNJNRobin1337 Жыл бұрын
i personally believe that banning singleplayer is an inhumane act that im pretty sure could lead to a lawsuit
@ajspringer4858
@ajspringer4858 2 жыл бұрын
i got banned while playing on a private realm with my roommates, we were just messing around i wasn’t even on a public server and didn’t even get reported and still got banned.
@espiogirl
@espiogirl 2 жыл бұрын
Same. This shit is so dumb and I hope they lose money over this.
@ohenree7224
@ohenree7224 2 жыл бұрын
I was just playing earlier and got a week long suspension for “hate speech” when all I said was the letter L once in a private session with a friend
@ChrisMC_
@ChrisMC_ 2 жыл бұрын
great timing, the update is supposed to come out today so this is a good video to release for this topic
@Goldensea234
@Goldensea234 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm scared to update to 1.19! Very informative, thanks so much for shedding light on this
@Blonder_Studio
@Blonder_Studio 2 жыл бұрын
i actually want this player chat reporting system to be released cause then we all have excuses to pirate the game especially if our long time accounts get perma-bans with how much players pirating this game mojang will eventually remove that shitty system
@aluzuka
@aluzuka Жыл бұрын
I never ever use built in chat unless I’m like “I need wood” and I’m not in a call. I always use discord.
@Unfiltered_Raven
@Unfiltered_Raven 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure devs for server plugins will find a way around this. they always do
@CatBoxGMZ
@CatBoxGMZ 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a good idea, players on server can report people, in which the reports is revived by server owner and team. From there the team can give further chances to player and or ban player. They can then go and report to Mojan about the player. To many server reports can result in further online ban or limitations. Ie, no chating or using signs on servers. And further up to complete online play ban.
@kehbab
@kehbab 2 жыл бұрын
Na its a cancer
@austinmajeski9427
@austinmajeski9427 2 жыл бұрын
You know what they say, _“The road to hell is paved with ‘good intentions’.”_
@lonecrusaider
@lonecrusaider 2 жыл бұрын
My friends and I don't use chat anymore. Not taking the chance someone at Mojang or Microsoft has a bad day and decides to ban a ton of people before quitting. To many chances for mistakes.
@Ryuezaki
@Ryuezaki 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't they allow server owners to decide if they want this feature In thier server or not?
@pumkin610
@pumkin610 2 жыл бұрын
They probably thought this was what they wanted minecraft (all public servers) to be like, but I think they are realizing how flawed it is and they will change it up.
@roadrunner5549
@roadrunner5549 2 жыл бұрын
Control
@eges72
@eges72 2 жыл бұрын
This update is so terrifying that I am reluctant to play Minecraft anymore.
@WolfBoiGaming
@WolfBoiGaming 2 жыл бұрын
we definitely need things to go back to normal.
@Sr.Hamsalot
@Sr.Hamsalot 2 жыл бұрын
The devs or staff would probably see what the community thinks, so mabey this wont be so bad
@ScorpioneOrzion
@ScorpioneOrzion 2 жыл бұрын
I think the report Microsoft gets also include the server ip. So I think you will only get banned if the situation is very bad and that you won't get banned for saying stuff like "I'm gone kill you" on a faction server or so.
@chaoticclonestudios
@chaoticclonestudios 2 жыл бұрын
The games so called freedom remains only in name at this point I've heard stories of people getting falsely banned because they won a duel in my eyes abusing this report system is pure cowardice having to use a system like that as a shield from actual skill it's cowardly and anyone who abuses the system should be seen as such
@TheyCallMeIce
@TheyCallMeIce 2 жыл бұрын
As I and many others believe, it's likely a Microsoft decision, trying to keep the Minecraft "brand" or something as a family friendly game. Also I think it's ironic that, in fear of getting banned, myself and others will quit the game. Oh, well.
@roadrunner5549
@roadrunner5549 2 жыл бұрын
The average Minecraft player is in their 20s and Microsoft knows that they just want control over speech
@dorkburney4417
@dorkburney4417 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with the new chat system from what I have from KZbin but what angers me most is I can't find articles by Mojang about this fo bedrock
@tysoncook5152
@tysoncook5152 2 жыл бұрын
If this goes live I will not be playing Minecraft multiplayer unless this gets reverted.
@andromeda9340
@andromeda9340 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty sad seeing minecraft go this way.
@Ariex_xox
@Ariex_xox 2 жыл бұрын
With the 1.19 update being a bit of a let down and now this minecraft is, in my opinion, is taking a turn for the worse. Also could somebody please answer my questions: 1. If i play on a previous version, say 1.17, will the ban thing still be on it. 2. realms require you to be on the most recent version, if i have a 1.17 world on a realm will the chat thing be vallid on it if the world is 1.17 but on 1.19 launching
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it won't affect previous versions, only 1.19.1 and above. As for realms, I'm not sure, as I've never used them before.
@Ariex_xox
@Ariex_xox 2 жыл бұрын
@@FizzyBanger ok thanks!
@mikegamerguy4776
@mikegamerguy4776 Жыл бұрын
1. JAVA modders will need to and already have started to figure out how to turn off reports to Mojang/Microsoft. 2. When the company says their team manually reviews reports, several things come to mind. The amount of players playing online is enormous. The amount of reports, both legitimate and trolling are enormous. It would take a significant expenditure in human, paid resources to manually review all the reports. As a 42 year old man, who has seen the rise of the video game industry from before there was even widely available multiplayer, I am certain of this: THEY. ARE. LYING. There's no fucking way they are reviewing anything in good faith. It costs too much. The most popular competitive games in the world, MOBAs, use a combination of algorithms and volunteers to review behavior. Their systems are very good at cleaning up those cesspools of humanity. They still have an amount of toxicity but it is no where near what it was closer to the beginning of commercial MOBAs. There's nobody being paid to do this stuff even in the most successful, most profitable, E-Sports. Why the hell would they pay anyone to review Minecraft chat? The suits would never allow it. It would be a full time job, and I don't know how many people they would need to hire. It would be a lot, and it would cost way too much. So they are full of shit. Donate to the modders who can successfully just mod this shit right out of the game. We are on PC's. The talent in the modding scene will always be able to stay ahead of those fuckers even if they have to "cross the streams" (that's an original ghostbusters joke) with hackers and pirates.
@amazedalloy
@amazedalloy Жыл бұрын
And the modding scene, being the great people they are have worked out how to stop messages being reported
@CrowofJudgement461
@CrowofJudgement461 2 жыл бұрын
Well I suppose I’m done playing Minecraft then, because I’m not getting banned because of Microsoft’s or Mojang’s terms for their idiotic moderation. I was also thinking about starting to pay for a realms subscription but I won’t be doing that anymore since. I hope enough players quit outright to make Mojang and Microsoft reconsider their actions
@dacianwolf3350
@dacianwolf3350 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew this ban option was in bedrock as a bedrock player.Only now that is being added to java it got to my ears,maybe i didn't heard of it because i playing all the time on singleplayer,but now that i know i got terrified too.
@janfgfdx5165
@janfgfdx5165 2 жыл бұрын
If get banned on my acc i just use cracked account tbh
@james-px6ox
@james-px6ox 2 жыл бұрын
minecraft: lets do a global ban system the entire playerbase: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
@cool_indeed
@cool_indeed 2 жыл бұрын
Roblox: wow this sucks more than are ban system
@jer1776
@jer1776 2 жыл бұрын
Its hard to for me to imagine Microsoft is doing this in good faith, especially if single player/private server access is affected by bans. Sounds like a good way for them to sell banned players fresh accounts.
@protobuster12
@protobuster12 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid fizzy…I really do think that moderation should be up to the servers like you said (unless there’s illegal activity), but I honestly am really on the fence about this situation.
@Invalid-user13k
@Invalid-user13k Жыл бұрын
The ban system is crazy still
@joel9104
@joel9104 Жыл бұрын
There is a clean and simple awnser to this and it is... just let servers deal with it, these people are paying to have their own server so just let them do what they want and how they want it done
@ednagaming5654
@ednagaming5654 2 жыл бұрын
So... I am a bit confused. Are we not allowed to swear at all on our private SMPs and servers?
@cool_indeed
@cool_indeed 2 жыл бұрын
This is worst than roblox ban system, if you say gay you can get a three day banned, but if it was 900 billion times worst, if you say gay get banned forever
@MethDealer5916
@MethDealer5916 2 жыл бұрын
They should add a "reportmessage" gamerule to servers. And maybe "censorchat" "censorbook" "censorsign"
@hanswurst9378
@hanswurst9378 2 жыл бұрын
Dont we all play Minecraft because we like the freedom to do whatever you want? If you want to write something in the chat eg that you feel depressed you shouldnt potentially be bannes for this.
@MethDealer5916
@MethDealer5916 2 жыл бұрын
@@hanswurst9378 I absolutely agree
@TiocfaidhArLa34
@TiocfaidhArLa34 2 жыл бұрын
you should just be able to block people you dont like. so you dont hear anything they say in chat but they still are allowed to play the game.
@MethDealer5916
@MethDealer5916 2 жыл бұрын
@@TiocfaidhArLa34 That would be a better solution but just telling Microsoft to allow toggling these features is much easier than convincing them to throw away their shitty idea
@My_Old_YT_Account
@My_Old_YT_Account 2 жыл бұрын
@@TiocfaidhArLa34 that's a thing since 1.16
@The_hot_blue_fire_guy
@The_hot_blue_fire_guy 2 жыл бұрын
It shouldn’t be there at all. It’s not up to mojang or Microsoft to moderate private servers. If they want to do this on realms then fine. But private servers should not have to be forced to use this system. It shouldn’t even be a thing but if it absolutely has to be a thing it should at least be optimal for every server.
@The_hot_blue_fire_guy
@The_hot_blue_fire_guy 2 жыл бұрын
@stupid Cat I know a lot more about this now than when I made the last comment and now I no longer think that they should be given any excuse. Especially not after how they are basically ignoring everyone and pretending that nothing is happening. They way they are handling this is just so extremely sad and wrong. I originally wanted to give them a chance to possibly compromise. I wanted to give them a benefit of the doubt. (I’m a very optimistic person so I always try to see things from both sides of a problem) but I now see that they don’t deserve that anymore. Not after acting like spoiled kids and just holding there ears and screaming pretending that they can’t hear anything. Not after completely disregarding anything anyone says regarding the chat report system. If they are not willing to even listen to people then I’m not willing to compromise with them. So mojang did a good job on turning me from 90% hating there system to 100% hating there system! This is what happens when you don’t even care about your community! Now I’m just waiting for the fallout of this disaster. Because there will be fallout. And mojang should be trying to do something to fix there nosediving reputation and PR! Before they go beyond no return.
@eggstatus5824
@eggstatus5824 Жыл бұрын
I personally never use the chat. I've played minecraft for many years and have very rarely used the chat. So I guess it's not a huge loss for me. It's more incentive to not talk to people
@MatthiasLee1
@MatthiasLee1 2 жыл бұрын
I still hate it. Servers should moderate themselves, not microsoft moderate servers. We've used the old system for 19 versions of minecraft over almost 13 years and it was perfectly fine, no need to change it now. Edit: The report system could also be opt-in where you change a setting in the server properties file to enable mojang moderation, and getting reported and banned on an opt-in server gets you banned only from other opt-in servers as they all have the same rules that mojang would set.
@IceyCubed
@IceyCubed 2 жыл бұрын
Now i feel like the downfall of minecraft is starting...
@farukkarakoc4588
@farukkarakoc4588 2 жыл бұрын
I will not talk to anyone for fear of being banned on the server and I will not answer when someone asks for something.
@iMutedMC
@iMutedMC 2 жыл бұрын
I cant really say much myself but this is indeed a Mojang decision and only a select few have made this decision its not Microsoft's which we all thought wasn't the case. The 3 people at Mojang who did this also decided to remove's techno blade's tribute for publicity which is wrong and that's why people are quitting minecraft (Including me) like to spread the awareness...
@C_hi_cken
@C_hi_cken 2 жыл бұрын
The problem of "illegal" thinks can be a problem because every country has different laws.
@donttellmehowtodomyjob653
@donttellmehowtodomyjob653 2 жыл бұрын
Minecraft will become just like roblox when this chat report and censorship features will update.
@AlluXD
@AlluXD 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best way to not get banned is simply not to play multiplayer on popular servers. If you can't do that, just don't send a single message in the chat since it can get ya false-reported then banned...
@tonyrileyiv2863
@tonyrileyiv2863 2 жыл бұрын
I just got banned for 7 days for something done in my bedrock realm that I pay for that I didn't even do. This is a terrible system
@ddable.
@ddable. Ай бұрын
They (were) being vague on purpose to have an excuse to ban ppl they don't like. 99% of the time ppl being vague about stuff is so that they can exploit it to do 'unethical' ( not really the word but yk) stuff
@brandonkevinward8748
@brandonkevinward8748 6 ай бұрын
Same here too I got banned from Hive because I was wearing my inappropriate skin. It’s like a Minecraft skin. Basically I got banned it’s like an error and this is why people stay with single player that’s the only thing with people should do is stay on single player because because got a cub accused. And I got false banned but now I got an error because my best friend banned me from Minecraft fnia Bendy and this is why we should not be dating other people a lot of people stay inside single player world is there are a lot of bad people out there. It’s our time it’s just stay away from bad people. there are a bunch of evil people out there, a lot of people did got manipulated. Some people did got accused here from me because I got accused because some people did bully me because some people said profanity stuff at my face because some people always call me like a gorilla because because I’m not a part of that it’s just the peoples fault and I don’t swear to Minecraft I really don’t swear because I’m just a friendly fellow I did not deserve of getting getting hate by other Minecraft people around the whole world it was all because like what’s wrong with all of your players out there so you players need to stay on single player I did not ruin no reputation to Minecraft. Minecraft put up these type of races stuff because it is highly offensive and I’m not a racist and I’m not caring and I’m not a criminal and I am a good guy. I am against of evil. 👿 where evil comes from it’s from Minecraft people Minecraft people are just evil people in the world people just don’t understand Minecraft people need to be stopped and I’m not spying nobody I’m just a regular kid and I do not like bullies and I do not like cyber bullies people these days need to bust off or buzz off and people need to mind their business because some people need to walk away from multiplayer. That server is not safe at all that server has bad people on there. People will tell you what to do in your life bad people will take innocent lives. People did this on purpose, the only thing right now is for all of my press people is to stay on single player do not listen to those evil people. Evil people are rude and kind. They will hurt you from the inside and out evil people talk about my grandma Nana is dead. That’s my mom‘s mother and I am a saint. I’m basically mom‘s kid. My parents look up to me because like because because I have pure goodness to me and I am good I stay on the good side the backside no it’s worse. The bad side does not have nothing it’s just evil, pure evil with remorse players have remorse to be it’s worse evil is just worse in human historyv evil and the bad people always come first they always said about things horrible stuff it’s all just evil people plotting evil people trying to just scheme and this is why people needs to stay on single player multiplayer is not a safe game that multiplayer server is it a dangerous zone with This is why we have enough of multiplayer. There’s some bad people on that server it’s time that we have to choose single player we need to build something good make structures make anything you wanted to do this. This is Minecraft. Minecraft is a kids game. Minecraft is entertaining but all the swearing all this cursing and stuff , this is not right for kids. This is bad stuff for kids. where all these bad words come from from Minecraft people I wish I ever wish for Minecraft to make more rules and like getting harassed getting accused getting banned it’s getting like sexual harassment and this is why I stay on single player I’m tired of multiplayer and it’s time for us it’s players. It is time to retire, retirement from playing multiplayer servers, there are too many bad people out there we need to stop all of this from happening. It’s all about the greater good of the good side of all humans against the evil side of all humans who wins the good people always win evil never wins to no fights. Evil is weak is our time is the rooted out evil evil is a heretic and manipulated for all the things I never done to my past old to play games. I should not play games with evil people. and like I just don’t like evil, I am against of evil in Jesus, who has the power God will get rid of evil we are children we are not supposed to be evil. It’s time for us to be good with God and the gods of the heavens I wish for God he’s the save good people. I only wish it’s from Minecraft to have a safe server surfers needed council meeting, white builders architects. Everybody needs to start building powerful of all buildings. Minecraft gives us the resources is the build stuff we should not build inappropriate statues statues need to be banned of oMinecraft building sites is an infinite world, infinite universe. We are the players we built structures it’s our creations to build. I’m really sorry about this. I always have a powerful speech. It’s all about freedom. It’s all about humanity. We’re all human and we’re not machines we organic people it’s our flesh and blood is called generation of all humans we will never be forgotten of every Minecraft. This is the end message of this
@oldenandgolden
@oldenandgolden Жыл бұрын
i agree legality should be moderated by microsoft but anything else should not the thing im mad about is that they where not prompted no one asked for this and the community was handling moderation fine
@Small_Brian
@Small_Brian 2 жыл бұрын
First: Peacefulness. Next: ANARCHY.
@TreFR14
@TreFR14 2 жыл бұрын
I am scared honestly
@Kenny_Blender
@Kenny_Blender 2 жыл бұрын
I don't want Minecraft to turn into Roblox with crappy moderation system (plz don't label me as Roblox hater, I play Roblox too)
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't know anything about Roblox bcos I've never played it, but I'll take your word for it :)
@geenkaas6380
@geenkaas6380 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you a roblox hater?
@FizzyBanger
@FizzyBanger 2 жыл бұрын
noone is hating roblox here :-)
@elitecereal
@elitecereal 2 жыл бұрын
@@FizzyBanger Once in Roblox, I got warned for saying "fuck" even though it was censored. And Roblox's moderation is known to have MANY and I’m telling you MANY false bans. Literally I remember that in 2021 somebody once got banned for uploading an image of an orange circle. I think you see why now.
@pumkin610
@pumkin610 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any minecraft server than automatically censors the chat?
@lograystudios
@lograystudios 2 жыл бұрын
My plan is to stop playing Minecraft until Mojang and/or Microsoft removes this. A difficult choice, but if it's what is gonna take...
@dot_boi
@dot_boi Жыл бұрын
I feel like Microsoft is forgetting something, "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB". That's all they really need.... Not every minecraft player is 8 years old and I think everyone knows that. Who knows it may be some sort of way they can ban more accounts from online play for as many reasons as possible so they will go buy another one. Don't mean to offend anyone but if you are a parent and you let your child aimlessly play online games and use the internet freely. There will always be explicit content and people, and that's on the parent for not administering their internet and games usage, not the developers or publisher.
@WD_RatLad
@WD_RatLad 2 жыл бұрын
MOJANG ALREADY HAS A CENSORSHIP SYSTEM IN PLACE, THEY DON'T NEED A SYSTEM FOR REPORTING PEOPLE!
@cool_indeed
@cool_indeed 2 жыл бұрын
But what if you hack and say bad racist words
@gremlin8635
@gremlin8635 2 жыл бұрын
can't wait for Minecraft 1.1984 to come out
@xXVignettaXx
@xXVignettaXx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its ridiculous asl. When I was younger I had a minecraft server and some of my friends and their little brothers were on it as well. I was asked to make sure it wasn't filled with profanity and nastiness and because I couldn't easily just convince my brothers and friends to stop cussing I just downloaded a plugin to change words as I pleased. Things like Fuck would be changed to Duck etc. It was annoying to some of em which made it really funny and we just ran with it and made more and more variations. Eventually people would get more creative by doing things like F*c* etc etc and we'd just make more and more variations of the censors. It just became a fun little game of who can think of the best way to convey a cuss word and whats the best way to censor that cuss word. See the thing is about that censorship, it was all by choice. Minecraft is taking away that choice. I genuinely believe big youtubers like hermitcraft etc should be boycotting this but instead we have ppl like Xisuma making excuses. (definitely lost a lot of respect there)
@TheAftaaa
@TheAftaaa 2 жыл бұрын
I'll try to stay polite. But, honestly, it deserves to be written on dozen of letters and mailed right to Microsoft, telling them that they will lose their non-toxic community. Maybe only to keep the underaged part of it. To be real, it might cause the game's demise
@liamhoag7871
@liamhoag7871 2 жыл бұрын
this is what happens when u let large corporations buyout something that you made like microsoft its like turning a school over to a board of directors
@dakelong6047
@dakelong6047 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah alot of people who are banned are not gonna send any money towards mojang or Microsoft me included. I would understand chat banning but multiplayer banning is too far gor swearing
@kristiandobias5533
@kristiandobias5533 2 жыл бұрын
I thing this system should be deleted because these "chat polices" ruin most of games like among us .
@dejay100
@dejay100 2 жыл бұрын
They need a toggle so you can have a server without Microsoft’s moderation
@EdgarsLS
@EdgarsLS Жыл бұрын
Even then, what if you get banned for saying a joke that if without context could be interpreted as illegal conversations, and it also goes the other way, illegal conversations could just be told as a joke and be overlooked. I doubt trying to remove the possibility of illegal activity in minecraft servers is a good idea, there's other places that it can take place anyway, not like minecraft is the main platform for that.
@Catoparte
@Catoparte Жыл бұрын
Maybe for the next video you could make it about the old popular trend Minecraft roleplays
@berkal1299
@berkal1299 2 жыл бұрын
its cheaper and easier to not moderate chats and the community hates it. they would have to be stupid to implement it
@curryt4
@curryt4 2 жыл бұрын
Even if it's microsoft's fault mojang has already recieved lots of backlash and will get tons more if they don't listen to the community soon.
@Nickguh112
@Nickguh112 2 жыл бұрын
My friend once told me he had gotten his Microsoft acc and he didnt know why now i know it was because of this shity bug
@TiocfaidhArLa34
@TiocfaidhArLa34 2 жыл бұрын
so if i play bedwars and win the losers can just report me and get my account banned?
@Gjjasra
@Gjjasra 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes i cant connect to any servers in mc bedrock edition and it repairs itself after an hour or 2
@Legend-zg3ks
@Legend-zg3ks 2 жыл бұрын
after these things ive been terrified of bedrock servers
@sarainiaangelsong440
@sarainiaangelsong440 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the game is all doing but, if in game chat and signs are risky then maybe a discord chat might be safer for now? I'm not an expert on moderation, all I know for myself if I don't like a player I find a way to to stop them joining the world altogether or to immobilize them fully via the use of commands and indestructible blocks and things. Far as chat goes I really don't know, as I'm more into saving a world from being griefed then watching chat, but if chat was bad then they won't be joining the world any.
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