Minimoog Model D vs Moog Voyager Comparison

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@MrCamelneck
@MrCamelneck 9 жыл бұрын
Regarding the pronunciation of Moog, Bob once said that his father (and other family members) used and preferred the anglicized pronunciation of Moog (as in "Moo" cow) pronunciation. So in his early years, his name was actually pronounced this way, . However, later in his life, Bob discovered that the Germanic pronunciation for the name Moog rhymes with "rogue" and he once said that he felt that this pronunciation was more dignified that the "cow's moo" pronunciation. Although he might have preferred the Germanic pronunciation, technically speaking, neither pronunciation for the name Moog is "right" or "wrong". It just boils down to personal preference. In fact, during the 60's, 70's, and 80's, most everyone in the USA, including myself, used the Moog (as in Moo cow) pronunciation. Nevertheless, in honor of the late, great Bob Moog, I try my best to use the "rogue-sounding" pronunciation these days. However, there are occasions where I still accidentally let a "Moo" slip out because old habits are hard to overcome. :)
@MrCamelneck
@MrCamelneck 9 жыл бұрын
Bob once said that the pronunciation of his name was really "unimportant" to him. I have no reason to doubt him because much of his family favored the anglicized (Moo Cow) pronunciation over the Germanic pronunciation and he has used both throughout his life. Having said that, there is a persistent rumor that the reason why Bob decided to ditch the "Moo Cow" pronunciation for the "Rogue" pronunciation was due to the urging of his first wife. Shirleigh (pronounced Shirley), who was a Grammar School teacher. According to the rumor, some of her students persistently teased her about her name. Being a bit of a prankster when I was in grade school, I can just imagine some of her students "Moo-ing in class" or perhaps over emphasizing her name as in "Mrs. Moo ooo ooog". (I can also see some of them them teasing her for not knowing how to spell "Shirley" correctly). So I have no doubt that some of her students found her entire name to be a source of amusement. On the other hand, it is also very conceivable that somebody could have found out about his first wife being an elementary school teacher, and then surmising this whole story. Can anybody substantiate this rumor?
@mubodude
@mubodude 7 жыл бұрын
Basically, people use English rules for non English words.
@armstronglance
@armstronglance 6 жыл бұрын
REO’s roadies and my warmup band argued the pronunciation once before a performance. I bought my Moog directly from Bob over the phone, so I pronounced it as he did then. (But don’t argue with the headliners, their minds are made up!)
@ericmaher4756
@ericmaher4756 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it all depends on your mood (mogue).
@NuisanceMan
@NuisanceMan Жыл бұрын
According to a video clip where Moog talked about his name, in Dutch it actually rhymes, or approximately rhymes, with the way Scottish people pronounce "loch."
@658magnus
@658magnus 4 жыл бұрын
The Model D is brighter, and seems more aggressive. The Voyager has really nice modulation possibilities. I guess I need them both!
@Vitttorio777
@Vitttorio777 3 жыл бұрын
I have something in between. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJDPgqqrh9mGmJY
@scribbles65
@scribbles65 9 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating comparison... Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I've heard this powerful instrument being used from dozens of R&B artists in 100's of songs as a kid. Logically, I have a soft spot for the Model D. The futuristic almost angelic sound of 'MOOG Mallet' (@11:46) is so relaxing it could put me to sleep in minutes... What an iconic piece of history.
@humanbeing_
@humanbeing_ 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing enough I just found your channel & this video by accident; KZbin was open and I grabbed my phone from my pocket after shoveling snow in a blizzard... This video started playing... It was meant to be! This video STILL stands up almost a decade later as well! Subscribed with all notifications. Cheers!
@jacksonueland
@jacksonueland 7 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great video, my Voyagers coming in soon I'm excited
@wafflestoast5228
@wafflestoast5228 7 жыл бұрын
The filter on the model D takes my heart
@mattsynth
@mattsynth 6 жыл бұрын
The Voyager is my pick because of all the modern midi functions and patch storage. I have no need to go back in time.
@bobrobertson9547
@bobrobertson9547 8 жыл бұрын
The Mini Moog Voyager is a million miles apart from the Model D. The model D used to suffer from Oscillator drift which meant every time you went back to play it, it needed tuned and sounded awful. The Mini Moog Voyager is the synth Bob Moog should have built and that why he had to build it. It simply addresses the shortcomings of the Model D and he knew it. The Voyager is immensely powerful and will connect with all your equipment - not to mention that it is programmable. All other analysis over sound is pure conjecture and totally subjective - most if it by romantics who don't understand synthesis at all. You should never, ever pay silly money for old architecture as it will ultimately fail, can be noisy, has too many integration limitations and will leave you heart broken. If you can't afford a Mini Moog Voyager, there are a plethora of Euro rack modules which will do the exact same thing at a fraction of the cost. Be sensible follow your head, not your heart.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 8 жыл бұрын
I was never impressed with the voyager. Now we have the model D reissue!!
@angryredsquirrelyoufreakin1496
@angryredsquirrelyoufreakin1496 8 жыл бұрын
I got a Voyager old school edition it's basically has the same look as the model D
@chrisstrobel3439
@chrisstrobel3439 8 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.....well to do the same exact thing in Eurorack is going to cost US $2827.00 + shipping including case and power according to Modular Grid (AJH Minimod Modules) The Moog Voyager performers, whats left of em new in stock at the major US retailers, are US 2900.00 delivered, so its pretty much a wash price wise. I owned 2 Minimoogs with the first one being bought brandnew in 1978 for US $1995.00, both were sold in 1988 for pennies on the dollar. I think its a bummer Moog has discontinued the Voyager and is replacing it with the Model D re-issue. I used my Minimoogs either in studio or live almost everynight those 10 years, the Voyager is definately the better Minimoog imho and experience.
@awaken77
@awaken77 5 жыл бұрын
fully agree. dont forget about music as well :-) Playing one sustained buzzy note has no sense in the music context. Don Airey and Manfred Mann use Voyager , do they sound bad?
@ThomasKobrick
@ThomasKobrick 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying back. Just got off the phone with Moog - they are going to do the mod while they build it, provided it's not built and shipped yet - should find out shortly! It's very exciting because I easily prefer the modded sound to the "classic" Voyager sound. It's a wonder they don't provide it as a standard option. Now I'm even more excited to get my Voyager!
@Wulfcry
@Wulfcry 9 жыл бұрын
Model D definitely. Although the Voyager has a sonic spectrum suitable for today's needs.
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 8 жыл бұрын
400% agreed ;-),
@kaufmann6988
@kaufmann6988 12 жыл бұрын
Great demo ! I have a Model D and a Voyager as well... but my Voyager has the Rudi Linhard slew-rate modification. It makes the oscillators sound closer to the Model D's oscillators. I might make a demo also ;-)
@naiveguerrilla
@naiveguerrilla 12 жыл бұрын
This review-comparison is awesomemely made. Well done guise!
@ScottMillersounds
@ScottMillersounds 12 жыл бұрын
awesome demo of these two amazing synths. one of the best ive seen yet. great sound quality as well. thanks so much. cheers
@ThomasKobrick
@ThomasKobrick 12 жыл бұрын
They did the mod today to my Voyager, which will be done being assembled by next week! So excited!
@mik300z
@mik300z 11 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the reply, I've been using the model D all week putting a track together and all your observations are spot on, I was curious to see a hear a voyager now I'm accustomed to the D, it really is close. It's like you said, it's just something....the instability..the organic sound, just something that the D has that no other synth can replicate....or put such a smile on your face:) thanks again!
@DonSolaris
@DonSolaris 8 жыл бұрын
Folks, just wanted to let you know, now after performing the slew rate modification to my Old School Voyager, it sounds as bright as a Mini when the filter is fully opened. This mods adds a lot of extra to the high end that was missing in the stock Voyager. It's a pity they didn't made it stock that way, so ppl need to take it to official service, which kinda sucks for the wallet.
@baileyscheidel5684
@baileyscheidel5684 8 жыл бұрын
oh come on Don, from a fellow g.s. member, you're not supposed to say a voyager comes close haha!
@MrHugo280
@MrHugo280 12 жыл бұрын
The BEST comparative video on the web. thank you very much. For me it's the OLD MINIMOOG FOR EVER.
@bitspacemusic
@bitspacemusic 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a small world. I watched this video ages ago and now you pop up on Muffs with the excellent The Mangle. Nice video BTW.
@fnersch
@fnersch 9 жыл бұрын
Checking the Voyager on a spectrum analyser the filter opened all the way to the Nyquist frequency of the highest note (45kHz).
@JetEarlewood
@JetEarlewood 4 жыл бұрын
Well, we at Moog Music Inc in Cheektowaga, NY always used the “rouge” way.
@RaccoonEatingCacti
@RaccoonEatingCacti 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god this whole video... it's an ad. I just got stick bugged
@tony714keene
@tony714keene 12 жыл бұрын
i really love the minimoog synthesizer because the sounds are so gorgeous that makes me want the instrument
@soundsLogical
@soundsLogical 12 жыл бұрын
@jgk381 Yes, the Voyager is just overall a *much* more expressive instrument, but we were trying here to mainly compare tone. You're right though, expression will also affect the perception of the tone.
@zzrichie1
@zzrichie1 11 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful narrator voice, and nice phrasing !
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 10 жыл бұрын
This is a really nice video review. Interestng product that you have made, too. At least you made good use of your time having both of these lovely machines side by side to create a new product that ight make you a bit of money and be of great use to people on a moderate budget! There was one instance where the old Model D completely blew away the Voyager - on the rest they merely had slightly different feel. I wonder if you could guarantee thatall the settings were the same because I guess the Voyager has menus and many additional options and settings. One question: about the re-triggering of notes on the Voyager: The old Sequential Pro-One had a really nice retrig function switch where a note you were holding would the retrigger if you had subsequently pressed another note but then let it go - it would return to the first note automatically. It made for really nice trills, much easier to play than it you had to keep pumping two notes up and down in sequence. I am guessing the old Mini might not have had that function - does the Voyager have it? Second question: Also I love the sound of the ARP Pro-Soloist and the ARP Quadra in mono mode, maybe the Odyssey too but I have never heard it knowingly. The Quadra and possibly the Pro-Solloist were duophonic if I am correct, inthe sense that in the event you pressed 2 notes at once, one oscillator moved to the new note and the other one stayed onthe old note until you let it go. I guess that's how it woked. I think that is another great idea that merely takes imaginative assignment of the existing oscillatros rather than any fancy stuff. Soes th eVoyager have this? Best regards, Dave (synth_chap on ebay, though I never sold a synth or bought one on it).
@WillFehlhaberMusicOfficial
@WillFehlhaberMusicOfficial 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. tbh I think the Moog Mother32 has been one of the better products from Moog in a long time. Both in price/performance and tone. I wish that they kept the Moog Voyager Select Series though. They were so damn pretty.
@monsterjazzlicks
@monsterjazzlicks 11 жыл бұрын
SUPERB demonstration guys !! One of the best and most helpful for sure !!
@soundsLogical
@soundsLogical 12 жыл бұрын
@AlainHubert Yes, it's been in storage for many years.It cost us £450 just to get it working at all, so cosmetic improvements will have to wait a little while!
@gannonsamuel
@gannonsamuel 11 жыл бұрын
it will be interesting to see how the voyager ages... i can't imagine the Model D sounds exactly the same as it did nearly 40 years ago
@MacXpert74
@MacXpert74 12 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Both synthesizer have a great sound. I own a Voyager Signature model. And although it doesn't sound a bright as the original model D, it doesn't have the issue that the filter isn't all the way open when you turn the cutoff all the way up. Changing the "amount to filter" knob has no effect when the cutoff is up (as it should be). So it might be a calibration thing on the one in the video. Or maybe it's Bob's personal touch on mine.... ;)
@jdanielcramer
@jdanielcramer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this! I've always wondered about the similarities.
@windowlicker1
@windowlicker1 11 жыл бұрын
the sound of the old model D makes my soul cry knowing that i'll never wield such power in my lifetime...
@gunjabeans
@gunjabeans 4 жыл бұрын
windowlicker1 Sure you will. If you want to, and work towards it.
@systemlfo
@systemlfo 6 жыл бұрын
The Minimoog sounds like the the mids have been scooped out because the lows are so powerful and it has strong highs. The Voyager is more consistent across the spectrum. The Minimoog would crush the Voyager in regards to bass but when you have to cut the lows for leads etc then the Voyager would prevail. Overall the Voyager wins with versatility because it will fit in the mix better than the Mini could, outside of bass.
@Cooperman666ROFL
@Cooperman666ROFL 8 жыл бұрын
9:08 exactly why I love the ms-20. It's extremely unique, whatever organic sound you try to emulate sounds like either a toy or a train running over your head if you mess too much with the overdrive, yet it just sounds so...I don't know. Like nostalgic and sad in a "all those memories" way. Even though I'm 18 and I have the ms-20 mini, no memories, just the only way I can describe how it makes me feel. Even the harsher overdriven sounds have that melancholy feel to them.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 8 жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with anything??
@Cooperman666ROFL
@Cooperman666ROFL 8 жыл бұрын
James Reeno it has to do with what was writen at the bottom at 9:08. What's your point?
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 7 ай бұрын
I would be happy with any one of there moog tbh no cap i like of both of them ngl
@skyprop
@skyprop 8 жыл бұрын
Voyager does a good Job. But NOTHING COMPARES to the Warmth, Earthiness, Sound, and tone as the model D....For me I would record with the Model D and tour with the Voyager.... No Problem. "Nuff Said
@skyprop
@skyprop 8 жыл бұрын
+skyprop With it's presets the Voyager is ready to tour......But for studio work with rich sound textures go to the D
@WARDISWARD
@WARDISWARD 10 жыл бұрын
the cut off env.amount does have an effect on the overall filter frequency ..when you are adjsuting the filter sustain stage
@ryanjohnson3118
@ryanjohnson3118 10 жыл бұрын
He never said the "Amount to Filter" knob doesn't have an effect on the cutoff frequency...he said it "shouldn't" have an effect on it. The center position (default) of "Amount to Filter" means the envelope has no effect on the filter. When you turn it up, it is supposed to shape the filter based on the filter envelope. In this instance when he was demonstrating raw oscillators, it produced the effect of brightening the filter even further... even though it strictly SHOULDN'T do that. If you own a Model D, think of it more like the "Amount of Contour" knob. It shapes the amount of filter envelope action actually gets sent to the filter to modulate it.
@JuanAMatos-zx4ub
@JuanAMatos-zx4ub 5 жыл бұрын
Compared the Minimoog from the video with an AJH MiniMod (Eurorack) while watching the video. It's incredible how close they sound.
@DarrenGlen
@DarrenGlen 9 жыл бұрын
Model D just sounds more like "warm peanut butter" and the Voyager sounds like "glossy wood" to me. Both are indeed great but the Model D just seems to have this extra excitement in the sound, like any second its going to blow up. The Voyager sounds safer. id pick the D hands down
@eyeprod3101
@eyeprod3101 10 жыл бұрын
I would like to see more. Thanks for the efforts!
@murderousmaths
@murderousmaths 12 жыл бұрын
Superb demo and comparison of the two synths - really interesting, thanks! Mind you, when it comes to completely bonkers fun, we recommend the ARP Odyssey.
@audiotomb
@audiotomb Жыл бұрын
Great demonstration, thank you. I was fortunate enough to get a Mini Moog reissue around 2010. All the analog parts / guts, etc of the original with an added midi out. So excellent. It has such bite. Was looking to add a polyphonic with a sequencer - any ideas? That Voyager resonance sounded very nice - more pronouced especially at 80%
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines 11 жыл бұрын
I thought that square riff sounded good on the voyager until I heard it on the D - so much more emotional with all those bright harmonics
@holdmeclosertonydanza22
@holdmeclosertonydanza22 12 жыл бұрын
Not to insult your intelligence, but I believe it IS pronounced "Moog". I watched a documentary on the synthesizers, and the creator of the company even pronounced it that way, so the way you said it in the video is correct.
@allvek597
@allvek597 11 жыл бұрын
Nothing can beat Minimoog D, it's truly organic live sound and imperfection in tuning and even drifting etc makes this synth alive.
@briankehew579
@briankehew579 Жыл бұрын
I sold my old ones for the Voyager XL, what a monster!
@br0therl0c0
@br0therl0c0 12 жыл бұрын
Nice work guys. Really great approach to the comparison.
@hardcorehouse
@hardcorehouse 10 жыл бұрын
It's true that the old stuff can't be matched. But gear heads generally simplify when there's more to it...FIRST THING there are a few exceptions in today's equipment that get close. These pieces aren't widely heard in today's music, are a little outside of the realm of most producers. It's the rare producer who will be willing to bend over backwards to get something better when ok will do. Some of the new modulars and some of the MacBeth racks come to mind. SECONDLY, programming something that sounds good like the Voyager can be more important than the extra advantage of a Mini, in the right hands. Gear heads worth their salt should think of that but rarely acknowledge this truth. LASTLY, while the older stuff can have some sonic advantages in tone, the newer stuff usually has different, tighter envelopes that give them advantages in certain sounds that can give them advantages in contemporary productions, in which the older gear can sometimes sound dated.
@DanielandHannah4ever
@DanielandHannah4ever 12 жыл бұрын
Oh man, great, great video. It's such a treat to be subscribed to your channel.
@synthartist69
@synthartist69 10 жыл бұрын
I have to go for the model D.....
@MrCamelneck
@MrCamelneck 9 жыл бұрын
It kind of irks me when I see so many people get upset and feel the need to chastise someone for using the anglicized pronunciation for Moog. Recently, I remember one person who wrote, "that is not his name" in reply to the anglicized (Moo Cow) pronunciation they heard in a video. Well, it was at one time! Ironically, many of the same people who are "hung up" on the pronunciation of "Moog" are also the same people who are trying to make the argument that the former synth company "ARP" is pronounced A-R-P. (as in the 3 letters of the alphabet). Apparently, these self-righteous idiots who weren't even born when ARP was a functioning company, are having some success in spreading this "bad information" because in recent years I have seen quite a few respectable videos for ARP 2600's, ARP Odyssey's, ARP Quadra's etc. begin their video with the words "this is my A-R-P. Odyssey". Just because the name ARP is derived from Alan R. Pearlman's initials, they make the assumption that those people who grew up with ARP Instruments (including stars like Stevie Wonder and Pete Townshend) are stupid because these people also grew up using the Anglican pronunciation for "Moog" instead of the Germanic pronunciation.. However, if they had done their research, they should know that ARP ads and various literature often exploited the word "ARP" and how it related to musical words such as "arpeggio" and "harp".. Examples include the ARPeggio newsletter, and patch sheets with names like "Jews ARP" (Jews Harp), "HARPsichord", and "ARPlause". Nevertheless, if you want concrete proof on the official pronunciation, you can always dig up some of those demo records of various ARP instruments. These demo records, which were made by ARP Instruments, Inc., were used for advertisement purposes, were often sheets of vinyl that were inserted in various magazines, such as Contemporary Keyboard". You could play these vinyl sheets on a turntable just like a record and hear audio demos of these instruments in action. In each and every one of these records, you will always hear the announcer say the word "ARP" as if it rhymes with HARP. He does not pronounce it A-R-P (3 letters). (Check out the video titled "ARP Omni vintage synth audio demo" or "1971 ARP Synthesizer Demo Record Side A" currently found on KZbin.and you can hear this proof for yourself.)
@658magnus
@658magnus 4 жыл бұрын
The Model D does have grittier sounding oscillators, with more high frequency content. The Voyager has tons of modulation features that the Model D doesn't have. The only logical conclusion is to have both, they really would complement each other perfectly.
@dutchguy7299
@dutchguy7299 9 жыл бұрын
Good guess.. the tone is different because the Minimoog D had a production 'error' in which the filter was overdriven. Perhaps sending the osc out, and louder back in the filter it'll come closer to the original
@mease512
@mease512 7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this, v helpful in considering this 'investment' ...and the Soft options !
@soundsLogical
@soundsLogical 12 жыл бұрын
@WolfRayStar It's a Rode NT1-A, recorded through an Apogee Duet.
@horowizard
@horowizard 4 жыл бұрын
The Voyager's waveforms sound a little tamer because they are more accurate. There is something called a Slew Rate Modification that can be done which will give the Oscillators more of a Raspy character like the Model D but you have to decide for certain if you want it. You can't take it in and out with a switch. The Model D actually gets louder as you play higher on the keyboard. You can recreate this on the Voyager by sending about 50% Keyboard CV to the Volume through Pot Mapping.
@100DollarHeadache
@100DollarHeadache 12 жыл бұрын
As for the "Voyager filter doesn't open all the way", that reminds me of how the Roland D-series required you to apply the envelope to open the filter more.
@Shred_The_Weapon
@Shred_The_Weapon 8 жыл бұрын
If I had the mula, I would own them both, especially now that there's a limited-edition re-release of the Model D. I'm fortunate just that I was able at one juncture to get a Voyager Electric Blue. Oh, to have a polysynth version of either model in a 2-manual configuration with eight-note polyphony per keyboard, plus a duophonic 25-pedal bass section. It would likely be more costly to build something like that than to build a System 50 modular.
@anttiikonen8729
@anttiikonen8729 9 жыл бұрын
There's something wrong with your voyager. I have the voyager AE and it does not have the problem with the amount to filter knob. The filter is as open as it can be, when the the cutoff knob is at 100% open. I've tried also another Voyager PE and same thing with that one. But anyways, thank you very much for this video! I love this kind of comparison. And I really have to get that plug-in in some point.
@wirrwarr808
@wirrwarr808 9 жыл бұрын
I think the point was, u have to turn the env-filter-amount first to +5 then its full open...same on my voyager.
@chemicalBR0
@chemicalBR0 12 жыл бұрын
yeah I'm the same, when i was young i always said it like a cow because i didn't know any better I was a big Numan fan and he always said it the cow way so i just followed by example. I now say it with correct pronunciation but it comes a cropper when the fooger is involved :)
@koenraadfoesters
@koenraadfoesters 12 жыл бұрын
@Lorenzo763 No it's analog but with a digital control surface. This gives you possibility to make lot's of presets of recalls on the voyager.
@StaffRecordPlayer
@StaffRecordPlayer 12 жыл бұрын
I cheer you up Tom, amazing video
@liquidgroove
@liquidgroove 12 жыл бұрын
Love that your using a Oxygen 8 at the end of the vid. Would be great to have a vid about basic keyboard keys and chords.This is what I need help with. Really like your vids. Always a pleasure to see one come up in my Subscriptions list. Cheers.
@mik300z
@mik300z 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent and well thought out demo, thanks! I actually liked the little bit of reverb:)
@davebellamy4867
@davebellamy4867 10 жыл бұрын
Question: are the sounds at the end at 12:00-12:41 part of your set of samples? They sound great poly sounds. From what I could hear of the filter on the two Minimoogs: 0% resounance filter 1 Voyager nice nicer than Model D? 50% res less self oscillation on D at 50% one as nice as the other 80% res can hear stepping down in freqency filter as comes down model D miles nicer at 80% and smoother and richer on the way down At 7:00 they sound exactly the same Sometimes the Voyager sounds a bit dry but I heard it sound more flui on other demos. In the bit at 7:30, they sound like the bass and treble clefs of the same instrument. 8:12 the Model D is the real deal and9.07, sounds so organic. Your polyhonic 'Sweet Slow' at 10:50-11:00 sounds like my Rev 2.0 very early Prophet-5 sounded. I love that kind of patch. (Except my P-5 is silent now because it's broken - can yu recommend a good engineer to repair and service analogue synthesizers?) Personally, I would buy a Voyager to get the extra features
@stereosympathy
@stereosympathy 12 жыл бұрын
Really excellent side by side!
@VikerTurrit
@VikerTurrit 12 жыл бұрын
Best Promo Video for a sample Library Ever;)
@stevechavis8569
@stevechavis8569 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely the best of the best!
@lefreq6101
@lefreq6101 11 жыл бұрын
It's the age for one thing... Like the MS20 vs the MS20 mini... People get all confused and bothered by it, but it's just the fact that the oscillators are drifting more, components are worn out, etc. Of course, in the case of Voyager vs. Model D, there's more than that... they aren't supposed to be *exactly* the same, AFAIK... Oh, and pretty much any fully analog synths sounds different from unit to unit, so that's another important point.
@stephenbaldassarre2289
@stephenbaldassarre2289 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of the difference is due to sheer age; like, did the Model D sound the same when it was new as it does now?
@williammontana1673
@williammontana1673 2 жыл бұрын
Yo ! Great video, what's the music in background ? thhx !
@jaggass
@jaggass 7 жыл бұрын
Thankfully Moog has started to reissue the model D
@AlainHubert
@AlainHubert 12 жыл бұрын
FYI, my previous comment, to which you are referring to, was posted nearly a year ago. And at the time, the crawl, as you call it, did not include such a statement and was added later on...
@barlobarlo303
@barlobarlo303 8 жыл бұрын
Love the Model D. The low frequencies generated by the Moog oscillators are earth rumbling. A good example that makes use of the Model D and an Arp 2600 can be found at: soundcloud.com/winburn-873348065/nihilistic-homunculus
@soundsLogical
@soundsLogical 12 жыл бұрын
Actually it wasn't, there's no way to change a youtube video once it's uploaded, except to use KZbin's own annotation system. But it's cool, it's pretty easy to miss. I should just have pronounced it correctly in the first place.
@WTFRawrtube
@WTFRawrtube 12 жыл бұрын
Use the retro sine wave at 9 minutes put it to the fauxbrass from the Voyager. I love both those sounds.
@MrVadymMykh
@MrVadymMykh 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Could you make same comparison to VST emulations of them - Arturia Mini V, MiniMonsta, etc
@oOoInStInCtoOo
@oOoInStInCtoOo 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing video i just bought a little phatty was thinking of buying a voyager rack
@SWANbeats1
@SWANbeats1 11 жыл бұрын
Top video. Very fair. I find the Voyager and new moog stuff a bit smooth...but you cant deny the extra features of the Voyager. Very smart to tap on the sample pack ;) Might check that out...
@kemakol
@kemakol 6 жыл бұрын
"we strongly recommend you watch in HD" uploads video at 720... technically hd, but come on
@kemakol
@kemakol 4 жыл бұрын
@DIV1NITAL You're from 2011
@johnprophetmatic
@johnprophetmatic 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys!
@Banchuba
@Banchuba 12 жыл бұрын
Very informativ - thanks for sharing this informations and make a great video about it!
@drkam6
@drkam6 10 жыл бұрын
Model D all the way
@narcoticstate2127
@narcoticstate2127 4 жыл бұрын
From reading through the comments section it seems that the pronunciation of Bob Moog's name is far more important than the sound of the synthesisers he built...
@soundsLogical
@soundsLogical 12 жыл бұрын
Both the intro and outro music were made purely with the sampler instruments made from the two moots (except drums).
@Erik-gg7uw
@Erik-gg7uw 4 жыл бұрын
That intro song is great, did you ever made it to a real song?
@texmexchex
@texmexchex 12 жыл бұрын
lol i keep commenting as i watch but just wanted to say both are badass and i love ur vids
@alencett
@alencett 11 жыл бұрын
very well explained in a simple way, thanks.
@netradioheyu
@netradioheyu 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome review
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 6 ай бұрын
I prefer the D’s oscillators, and the Voyager’s filter sweep focus … 🤦🏻‍♂️ Overall though, the D wins … the heft of the oscillators, and that lead tone … Think I prefer the Matriarch’s tone, over the Voyager, for those ‘softer’ tones … Seems it’s a lot like plugging a guitar straight into an amp … the less crap in between, the better - in terms of raw, powerful tone …
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines 11 жыл бұрын
Would be better to compare Square Mini Square Voyager, Saw Mini Saw Voyager for those of us without short term memories ;)
@titangrv
@titangrv 12 жыл бұрын
loved the model d it is there more , and the mallet sample sounds very good
@AaronRash
@AaronRash 12 жыл бұрын
My gosh! I can't believe how much of the voyagers ass the model d kicked!
@gsmith160
@gsmith160 8 жыл бұрын
First off, I own a Voyager 50th anniversary... The VERY START of the comparo is erroneous because the 'D' is already an OCTAVE LOWER then the Voyager, how can you compare the two when the notes are not in the same range? Secondly, the square wave is NOT finely tuned on the Voyager in that example. If you have good ears, you have to know just where the sweet spot is on that waveform dial, it is a very narrow = pin point spot where there is NO mix of the other waveforms. I can clearly hear that the Voyager is NOT pure square and just fired mine up to check, and for sure the one in this vid is NOT where it should be waveform wise.. I could not watch any more of this presentation because of this .... .....and I see in the comments that someone else found my opening observation correctly founded!
@soundsLogical
@soundsLogical 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're totally right. The tests were done and filmed separately and we messed up the octave selection. Now I understand why there are so many continuity errors in film & TV!
@realmixonline
@realmixonline 7 жыл бұрын
Overly anal, because there was a lot of good info other than the minor errors...
@MaxCady969
@MaxCady969 11 жыл бұрын
Good job guys!!
@ColumCoyle
@ColumCoyle 12 жыл бұрын
so awesome! i’m buying my copy!
@amphitheatre
@amphitheatre 8 жыл бұрын
make some Omnisphere-enabled moog sounds! would buy that pack in sec
@NommiXproductions
@NommiXproductions 11 жыл бұрын
When the model D starts pretending to be Stevie wonder that sounds So Awesome !!
@AlainHubert
@AlainHubert 12 жыл бұрын
@mcrkid22 ....NOT. Robert A. Moog himself said it many many times, it's pronounced as in "rogue", not as in "root".
@Redhotsmasher
@Redhotsmasher 12 жыл бұрын
There's an emulator called Bristol that emulates, among other synths, both the Minimoog and the Moog Voyager XL if I remember. Only available for Linux, although it's open source, so theoretically someone could port it. Maybe it works in Cygwin too, I don't know. Or you could always install Linux on a (virtual or physical) computer.
@jarathstudio
@jarathstudio 10 жыл бұрын
I prefer the model D, another sound.
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