What's The Difference Between Gracie Jiu Jitsu And Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?

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MMA Leech

MMA Leech

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@neveryoumind560
@neveryoumind560 3 жыл бұрын
I train at a gracie barra and when our professor teaches us a technique he always tells us if this is sport or reality! I really like how he keeps it real!
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@CelciusPR
@CelciusPR 4 жыл бұрын
Although I do enjoy sport jiu jitsu.. I tend to put aside many of the sport techniques & dissect mostly moves that can be applied to street situations. I never want to get into the habit of pulling guard on someone & end up doing it in a street fight
@CoachRasul
@CoachRasul 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most classy explanation of the of the differences without making one better than the other. Brilliant.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Davyen
@Davyen 4 жыл бұрын
And what's it called when a Mexican hugs you on the ground? Gracias Jiu Jitsu.
@davideaston8314
@davideaston8314 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@muhammadlalkhen7282
@muhammadlalkhen7282 4 жыл бұрын
Haha whoever you are. I tip my hat
@dontknow4430
@dontknow4430 4 жыл бұрын
Or just tenth planet jiu jitsu 🤪
@bigfriki
@bigfriki 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you know where the door is....
@xhentaurus4252
@xhentaurus4252 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaha that's a good one ese
@scottmarlow6018
@scottmarlow6018 4 жыл бұрын
To expand on the Gracie Jiu Jitsu topic of being self-defense applicable, my GJJ school (under Royce) includes defenses against strikes thrown standing and on the ground, throws, defenses against being grabbed in different ways, and defense against weapon attacks. We roll like every other BJJ school too.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@WingChunGungFu
@WingChunGungFu 3 жыл бұрын
Is your Gracie Jiu-Jitsu the same curriculum as the Gracie Academy with Rener and Ryron? Or is it different? I’m looking for good Gracie Jiu Jitsu
@HtheKing
@HtheKing 2 жыл бұрын
@@WingChunGungFu whats the difference?
@tjl4688
@tjl4688 2 жыл бұрын
@@HtheKing The material is the same, as Royce and all his brothers (Rorion, Relson, Rickson, Royler and Rolker) trained at the Gracie Academy when they first came to America; the class structure, order of the curriculum and promotions might be different, though. Royce also has a public disdain for sport BJJ, so his schools are also very fight-focused.
@delmarsimpson25
@delmarsimpson25 2 жыл бұрын
If a dojo doesn't teach the strike defense or incorporating strikes then isn't that a diluted jiu-jitsu
@rubinmendoza13
@rubinmendoza13 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent explanation. I’m 63, still in great shape, but nevertheless I’m still 63… I’ve been wanting to learn Jiu Jitsu add to my 25 years of Muay Thai experience, but wasn’t sure which I should study. I now know that Gracie Jui Jitsu is the smart choice for me. Thank you!
@certinho76
@certinho76 11 ай бұрын
Same here. 47 and in good shape. A few years back at my daughter's college dorm/apartment move-in one of the coordinators thought I was a student! Hahaha. Anyway, I'm not looking to compete at my age, just interested in learning the art/science of jiu-jitsu!
@SJ-ty5rw
@SJ-ty5rw 4 жыл бұрын
The Gracie style was designed for defense on the street . Many others are aimed more towards "sport" against other competition . Much like what Judo became
@holdenkimura5034
@holdenkimura5034 4 жыл бұрын
You’re acting like other BJJ styles aren’t legit because they look like “sport”. Non-Gracie styles are equally effective, just require more strength, stamina, speed, etc. Let’s not forget that the Gracie challenge came about as a way to test skills in a real fight, which evolved into early MMA.
@chaunceycman
@chaunceycman 4 жыл бұрын
I think he’s just saying GJJ is more geared to combat not that BJJ isn’t combat worthy
@runite715
@runite715 4 жыл бұрын
BJJ is still useful for self-defense. If you really are so concerned about the "streets" then get a Glock
@qstogg7955
@qstogg7955 4 жыл бұрын
Self defence is what it’s all about. Sport bjj has too many holes for that
@SJ-ty5rw
@SJ-ty5rw 4 жыл бұрын
@@runite715 It's not just "me" talking about it's applications on the street . Rickson and other Gracie's have been saying it for years . Many of these versions out their , are watered down versions of the original style . Aimed towards competing against another bjj opponent , on the mat . Not the style Royce used in the early Ufc's .
@chueri
@chueri 4 жыл бұрын
Gracie JJ => Hélio Gracie Style = more focus in selfdefense
@kevinjoubert7545
@kevinjoubert7545 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown and commentary. Thank you.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!!
@garybolenable
@garybolenable 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best explanations I've heard so far.
@JickFincter
@JickFincter 4 жыл бұрын
I've been to atleast 4 different gyms over the years, so I'd say that you are more likely to get high quality training from a Gracie Jiujitsu gym than a bjj gym. There are pros and cons to both but if you don't necessarily know a lot, meaning you can't tell the difference between the quality of training it's just safer to go to a Gracie gym.
@pedrogalvao34
@pedrogalvao34 4 жыл бұрын
Long story short... Jiu Jitsu.
@kofidebrah7594
@kofidebrah7594 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Professor, well said. Have a wonderful day.
@blackfriarsffc5232
@blackfriarsffc5232 4 жыл бұрын
I am a student of Gracie JJ and I have wondered this exact question. Thanks for your humble and honest talk. OSS
@HtheKing
@HtheKing 2 жыл бұрын
still with Gracie JJ now?
@blackfriarsffc5232
@blackfriarsffc5232 2 жыл бұрын
@@HtheKing Indeed I am. Thanks. Purple belt
@HtheKing
@HtheKing 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackfriarsffc5232 are you happy you stuck with gracie JJ rather than go into sports JJ?
@hunterslaptop6483
@hunterslaptop6483 Жыл бұрын
@@blackfriarsffc5232still w it today? Joined a few weeks ago.. love it so far
@mikel.8284
@mikel.8284 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing breakdown and commentary! Thank you! I've been looking to start Jiu Jitsu and thinking I will start with Gracie Jiu Jitsu for the focus in self defense as we do not plan to do any competitions. This video was very helpful!
@chenzenzo
@chenzenzo 3 жыл бұрын
As a practiciomer of Gracie Jiu-jitsu since I was a kid, this an excellent explanation. Breathing and focus on movement as a thought, is the most important thing. Gracie Jiu-jitsu is practiced as science by the Gracie family for 100 years. Brasileiru jujitsu is focused on ability. When someone attempts to grab you, you will immediately understand the difference between Gracie, and regular Jiu-jitsu.
@tsugikuniyoriichi22
@tsugikuniyoriichi22 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation man , a ghost in the shell fan I see.
@Smithy250
@Smithy250 2 жыл бұрын
You mean difference between Gracie and Brazilian jiu jitsu. Regular jiu jitsu is Japanese
@HtheKing
@HtheKing 2 жыл бұрын
can you elaborate on your last sentence? Do you mean Gracie JJ will be better when someone grabs us?
@jaxwhyland
@jaxwhyland Жыл бұрын
@@Smithy250 the Japanese style is Jujitsu, Jiu-Jitsu is Brazilian.
@novrinkov0053
@novrinkov0053 Жыл бұрын
@@jaxwhyland it's same word just brazilian can't pronounced ju ,that's why they call jiu.
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人 4 жыл бұрын
They are marketing terms. The techniques are developed in Japan during Edo period and codified by Kano Jigoro as Kodokan Judo. Maeda Mitsuyo 前田光世 learned Sumo at his hometown and then Judo at Kodokan when he started studying at Waseda University in Tokyo. His main teacher was Tomita Tsunejirō 富田常次郎, and he was eventually awarded 7 dan by Kodokan. ((秋山楊心流->真之神道流->天神真楊流)+(起倒流))->講道館柔道
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
Important to say that Maeda had a school in Brazil, he named it Jiu Jitsu not Judo.
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人 4 жыл бұрын
MMA Leech Not according to Japanese sources. According to record in Kodokan and two bibliographies that I read about, Maeda found the first Judo Academy in Brazil in 1921, was promoted to 6 dan in 1929 and 7 dan in 1941. He never studied any Japanese Ju Jiutsu style, had promoted Kodokan Judo all his life, and in contact with Kodokan until his death.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
@@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人 I understand, brazilian sources are far and few between, but more and more brazilian historians are taking their time to study this matter and they've been finding official papers of that era. They have found that Maeda was teaching in Brazil in 1915, Carlos Gracie was one of his students, here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpXcnKZ6e9qsh8k He was teaching Kano Jiu Jitsu at the time, not Judo, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZjKc6aAZc9ofKs Most recent book talking about all of this, written by 2 renowned brazilian historians www.amazon.com/MUITO-ANTES-MMA-precursores-formadoras-ebook/dp/B084T7K2V9/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1592274992&refinements=p_27%3AElton+Silva&s=digital-text&sr=1-1&text=Elton+Silva
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人 4 жыл бұрын
MMA Leech What exactly is Kano Jiu Jitsu as mentioned by you? Is it different from Kodokan Judo? Kano Jogoro founded Kodokan Judo, literally means the School of Teaching the Do (The Way), Judo (The Way of Gentle) and wrote books on why he named his school Kodokan and his style Judo. He was a university educator and president by profession and his philosophy is clearly written. I addition, Judo was not a new term that he invented, it was used within Kito-Ryu 起倒流before. The Japanese Ju Jitsu Association has classified existing Ju Jitsu schools into at least 6 different lineages, and Yoshin Ryu 楊心流and Kito-Ryu 起倒流 have highly possible Chinese origins. Again, in Japanese sources, Maeda taught Kodokan Judo only, had contact with Japanese Government and Kodokan until his death, as besides spreading Judo he was also helping Japanese Government to set up Japanese immigrant settlements throughout South America.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
@@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人 I'm referring to the nomenclature, not the art itself, regardless if they are different from each other or not. Newspapers in Brazil called his art jiu jitsu, his dojo had a sign that read jiu jitsu as I mentioned in the link above. Helio Gracie said that Maeda called his teachings jiu jitsu. As you know there was a period in time where Judo was not the official name of the art yet, the art was called Jiu Jitsu, Kano Jiu Jitsu, or Judo interchangeably. I'm aware that Maeda helped the japanese government settling many japanese immigrants in Brazil (some were his friends from Kodokan), the japanese were responsible for the modernization of agriculture in many parts of Brazil, among many other important contributions to the country.
@alexanderturl
@alexanderturl 4 жыл бұрын
Without watching.....id say ego is the difference.
@coolman54061
@coolman54061 4 жыл бұрын
Baldheadedchimp got em
@lmk2869
@lmk2869 4 жыл бұрын
And which side has the bigger ego and which side benefits or loses significance because of their ego?
@andyxfish
@andyxfish 4 жыл бұрын
LMK2 wait, What?
@coolman54061
@coolman54061 4 жыл бұрын
Andres Herrera casual
@maximillianalexander7052
@maximillianalexander7052 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should watch then.
@certainlyitis
@certainlyitis Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this explanation concerning the differences. I appreciate it!
@danielfreitas9301
@danielfreitas9301 2 ай бұрын
For context, Rickson explained that Helio Gracie had trouble applying some techniques due to his smaller frame. He gave an example of some holds that traditionally used arm strength to subdue. Helio adapted it to use his whole upper body (expanding the chest) so reduce the amount of force needed from the arms.
@kevintuliper6438
@kevintuliper6438 4 жыл бұрын
Great job breaking it down I couldn't told it better myself I study both an its hard to explain the difference most people think its the same. Great job sir.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
💪
@optimusmaximus9646
@optimusmaximus9646 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Professor, for your lucid explanations on the differences between the two styles.🙂
@MMALeech
@MMALeech Жыл бұрын
Appreciate!
@optimusmaximus9646
@optimusmaximus9646 Жыл бұрын
​@@MMALeech Once, again, Professor, you are most welcome. I appreciate factual, academic studies that provide robust critical, cogent analyses when presenting an argument👍
@blkwarriorspirit5528
@blkwarriorspirit5528 4 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion I appreciate all fighting arts and think they are all connected on some level . Whether BJJ, GJJ, Judo or Kung Fu all Martial arts are connected and to be respected. Besides nowadays in these unforgiving streets damn near every fool seems to be an expert at pulling a knife or gun and shooting someone.✌🏿 Good breakdown sir.
@SatnamReehal
@SatnamReehal 4 жыл бұрын
0:44 mmm you mean MITSUYO MAEDA the founder of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
Maeda introduced Kano Jiu-Jitsu to the brazilians and to many other countries. Fortunately or unfortunately, the japanese didn't appreciate their own martial art and gradually turned it into the Judo we know nowadays. The Gracies kept the flame alive, modified it, and spread it to the world.
@SatnamReehal
@SatnamReehal 4 жыл бұрын
@@MMALeech cool
@LarryBrooks-cf9qp
@LarryBrooks-cf9qp 4 жыл бұрын
Strike use or defense totally depends on the instructors abilities. To me jiu jitsu includes all aspects of fighting.
@juliencharlet3672
@juliencharlet3672 4 жыл бұрын
@@MMALeech Robert Drysdale will be releasing a BJJ documentary/history film this summer. It's called "Closed Guard: The Origins of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil".
@merearihipipi-takoko5867
@merearihipipi-takoko5867 4 жыл бұрын
Indians started jiu jutsu . They started ninjutsu
@VelhaGuardaTricolor
@VelhaGuardaTricolor 4 жыл бұрын
Long story short: Gracie Jiu Jitsu = Real fights Brazilian Jiu Jitsu = Tournaments (sport)
@tomjones6630
@tomjones6630 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I learned various MMA disciplines purely for survival growing up in the South Bronx in the 80's. I learned the limitations of Tae Kwon do at 10 years old when an opponent almost caught my leg kick. Karate & Boxing have no strategy to defend yourself once you are on your back. I was watching a Rickson Garcie documentary and he said " The difference between me and KickBoxers, and Wrestlers "is they do this for sport. This is a real live fight to me." I said Wow. This is for me.
@coolman54061
@coolman54061 4 жыл бұрын
one time someone tackled me in front of my friends house bc idk he was mad for something i guess and then i just put him in my full guard then kimura locked and he started tapping and before i let go i told him to walk away or i’ll break it. i learned that move in bjj so i mean i guess it works for the streets
@TheSantos173
@TheSantos173 4 жыл бұрын
Sean Boss that’s very motivational to hear. I just started my BJJ journey and I am so dedicated to grow
@harageilucid4352
@harageilucid4352 3 жыл бұрын
Whats up Randy, you still training bro?
@mickholsbeke
@mickholsbeke Жыл бұрын
I loved your thought process and rhythm for this video. Thank you for sharing your perspective!
@MMALeech
@MMALeech Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 Жыл бұрын
I know Fabricio Werdum, i loved training with him because he is comedian that knows how to make everyone laugh
@MMALeech
@MMALeech Жыл бұрын
He's definitely a funny guy!
@w.flores8868
@w.flores8868 Жыл бұрын
I like this guy. Very humble. Good talk sir
@MesserTAMU
@MesserTAMU 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking it's kinda like the difference between mcnuggets and chicken nuggets. Mcnuggets are chicken nuggets, but when you order mcnuggets you know exactly what you are getting. The brand gives you consistency. Whereas with chicken nuggets there is more diversity, with some of them tasting a lot like mcnuggets and some tasting less like mcnuggets. They aren't necessarily better or worse than mcnuggets, you just have to find the brand that tastes best to you.
@Redsauce101
@Redsauce101 4 жыл бұрын
Did you post this comment before lunch?
@acrustycaballero
@acrustycaballero 3 жыл бұрын
Tendies or gtfo m’goodboy
@nutaman60
@nutaman60 4 жыл бұрын
Learning martial arts for self defence is the only reason i want to learn bjj, just did a trial at gracie barra bjj and had a blast but i neglected to ask if they train self defence, if not ill have to look elsewhere.
@harageilucid4352
@harageilucid4352 3 жыл бұрын
Imho a "sport" style armbar will leave an arm just as broken as a "street" style armbar. I really dont buy into this idea that someone with 3 or more years of bjj is somehow ill equiped to defend themself from a person who doesnt train.
@jaxwhyland
@jaxwhyland Жыл бұрын
The Gracie gyms do have a lot of focus on self defence. My gym has two nights a week dedicated to street sparring and fight simulation where we use mma style gloves and allow for strikes
@calvinmorris-ez2ir
@calvinmorris-ez2ir Жыл бұрын
Gracie university is place you need to go one of their certified training centres
@malthus101
@malthus101 Жыл бұрын
0:47 - Jiu Jutsu was created in JAPAN, not in Brazil. The Gracies made their own style and popularized it at the UFC.
@kamcastillo7035
@kamcastillo7035 3 жыл бұрын
as an up in coming fighter having been in great fighters camps, thank you for this video!!
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@lordsj
@lordsj 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for braking down differences
@Taekwon-Brando
@Taekwon-Brando 3 жыл бұрын
Our school is called the NM BJJ academy but we teach/expand on the original helio Gracie style, but we still roll daily
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Taekwon-Brando
@Taekwon-Brando 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 2 жыл бұрын
so the original judo self defense style? good
@Taekwon-Brando
@Taekwon-Brando 2 жыл бұрын
@@Supermomo2007 no, the original self defense curriculum presented by Helio Gracie was very different from Kime no kata in judo. Newaza has a much heavier emphasis with the added assumptiom that your opponent will always be larger than you
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@Taekwon-Brandothere are more katas then you think
@allbeforebreakfast3569
@allbeforebreakfast3569 3 жыл бұрын
More people need to see this video
@Jojo3435-p4m
@Jojo3435-p4m 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say practice bjj for the athleticism but don't neglect gracie jiujitsu to be well rounded in self-defense and have the speed and explosiveness of the sport aspect.
@sabahrahma1598
@sabahrahma1598 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your explanation
@robyt8663
@robyt8663 3 ай бұрын
very useful info. Thanks a lot
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@a.sedaghat6717
@a.sedaghat6717 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explined. Thank you!!!!
@bananapatch9118
@bananapatch9118 3 жыл бұрын
I go to a Relson Gracie school and the focus is self defense…not sport jiu jitsu. I think there is also a difference between Gracie JJ and Gracie Barra, which I believe is more sports focused. Personally, I have no interest in sports JJ.
@nizamdamanhuri933
@nizamdamanhuri933 4 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. What im interested is what you have outlined in the local GJJ club especially in someplace as far away from Brazil as Australis is.
@holmganghamburg
@holmganghamburg 4 жыл бұрын
gracies never loose. the opponent was just lucky this time. and new jiu jitsu tricks are not good, unless a brazilian invented them. and you need 43.dan masters with belt colors in coral, red and black combined.
@Pric3less1
@Pric3less1 4 жыл бұрын
*Sakuraba* *has* *entered* *the* *chat*
@moonding1
@moonding1 4 жыл бұрын
Eddie bravo too?
@Pric3less1
@Pric3less1 4 жыл бұрын
Moon ding it’s funny because the Gracies and the Machados used to have a series of tournaments against each other. Gracie students vs Machado students and Machado students won like 80% of the matches. And of course, Eddie Bravo is a Jean Jacque Machado black belt
@Boomstck
@Boomstck 12 күн бұрын
You could probably do another video comparing bjj and modern bjj (especially no gi). Most decent places have been incorporating a lot of wrestling into the training for a long time now, not to mention leg locks etc. In a way it's like secretly we all adapted catch wrestling stuff into our bjj lol
@21bravopunk61
@21bravopunk61 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation. I was genuinely ignorant about the subtle differences in styles. I will now try to look to see it when I watch matches.
@sergioluisflorianobarbosa7113
@sergioluisflorianobarbosa7113 4 жыл бұрын
Tudo é Jiu Jitsu o que muda é a forma como se aplica
@adambenwang
@adambenwang 5 ай бұрын
This was way too reasonable and fair. :) Thanks, I liked this a lot. The way I see it, both BJJ and GJJ can be helpful in a fight and more importantly, gives us confidence. But at the end of the day, most of us won't be using this is in a fight and the friends we make and community we build in our JJ school is way more important. If we end up in a street fight, JJ will just be one tool in a our toolbox, the other tools being our crew, maybe our gun or knife, and maybe our boxing/MT/wrestling. If we are on concrete somewhere fighting off our back, we are having a really bad day, even if we get the sweep or submission.
@cheesedust-n3w
@cheesedust-n3w 8 ай бұрын
The biggest diff in my experience is the "Gracie Combatives program". It's a white belt to blue belt program that teaches you positions and techniques (often gi-less) to not get knocked out by strikes. I know even every Gracie gym is different but from what I understand the spirit of this at least is shared amongst all GJJ gyms, which is why GJJ is ranked higher than BJJ in self defense system rankings.
@briankelly9297
@briankelly9297 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation much respect to you
@k9m42
@k9m42 6 ай бұрын
GJJ is more self defense oriented. Additionally GJJ schools typically practice more takedowns.
@binaryglitch64
@binaryglitch64 3 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? About $100 a month.
@nd-zr2ew
@nd-zr2ew 3 жыл бұрын
First step of self defense : discard your ego , swallow the anger and talk your way out Second step if talking doesn't work run as fast as you can
@unhappygilmore7129
@unhappygilmore7129 4 ай бұрын
Never bring JJ to a gun fight.
@rryanreid
@rryanreid 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. That gi is legit old school!
@thedecentpro4883
@thedecentpro4883 4 жыл бұрын
If your trying to learn Jiu Jitsu for defense in my opinion from my experience, 10th planet Jiu Jitsu is the best way to go, Eddie Bravo developed the style to be better for MMA and street situations by removing the gi and adding new techniques like the rubber guard and since your wearing normal clothes you don't have the grips to hold on to with the gi, so instead Eddie Bravo developed it all around the clinch and it's also good to have some striking like Muay Thai, Danish Kickboking, or boxing
@LibraryAstro
@LibraryAstro 4 жыл бұрын
True but i fee like gi helps improve grip strength and lots of bjj/gjj schools have no gi sessions as well. adding some striking to your game is defitnetly a must oo. imagine a grappler with a boxer's head movement? nightmare opponent.
@aarrrnold
@aarrrnold 4 жыл бұрын
Carlos Chavez danish kickboking? You must mean Dutch Kickboxing
@wordupmagazines32
@wordupmagazines32 4 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to this guy. Rubber guard will get you slammed on your neck. And the gi is very realistic. Boxing or muay Thai is fine.
@thedecentpro4883
@thedecentpro4883 4 жыл бұрын
@@aarrrnold Yeah my bad, I didn't mean to put Danish, thats a face palm for me
@aarrrnold
@aarrrnold 4 жыл бұрын
Carlos Chavez It’s all good man - keep training and stay safe
@yroy5254
@yroy5254 3 жыл бұрын
Good video brother, I just had a question like I was watching a youtube video of Gracie Jiu Jitsu escaping the mount when getting punched demonstrated by Rener and Rorion Gracie where he simply just sits up and hug the attacker tight and pull him down and work from that. My question is it looked really applicable, functional and cool but I checked other channels on Mount Escapes on youtube not a single one are doing that, they are hip bumping to advance guards like X guard and other crazy freaky complicated techniques. Why is that ? Not a single channel showcasing this variation even once and I am really confused is it not effective or something like that because a jab, cross is effective in an mma, boxing and street fight but in here it looks very different. Your reply is very much appreciated Ossss
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 3 жыл бұрын
Most of YT channels focus on the sport side of BJJ, including mine, although I post some self defense videos once in awhile. Ryron and Rener, on the contrary, teach mostly self defense techniques, they are great instructors and their stuff is great and effective for the self defense scenario. Since sport BJJ has no punches, the techniques do vary a lot, when you add punches to the game the techniques generally become simplified and straight to the point.
@yroy5254
@yroy5254 3 жыл бұрын
@@MMALeech thank you sir for your time and comment that was very helpful.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 3 жыл бұрын
@@yroy5254 you are welcome
@TheProdigy260592
@TheProdigy260592 4 жыл бұрын
Gracie Jiu Jitsu has self defence, not all BJJ has self defence
@nghinguyen875
@nghinguyen875 4 жыл бұрын
someone who practices sports bjj and is a competitive blue or purple isn’t exactly a push over on the streets if they can manage the strikes and take it to the ground, they are a force to be reckon with against an untrained person most at that level know understand top position advantages over pulling guard fighting off your back
@msh104utube
@msh104utube 4 жыл бұрын
is this recorded in his daughter's room? wth...
@Dadaadad268
@Dadaadad268 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what differences (if any) would I find in a Gracie Barra system vs Carlson Gracie bjj? I see GB has a very defined training schedule - is this the same for Carlson Gracie?
@dewynelewis1309
@dewynelewis1309 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and breakdown!
@YamatoXion
@YamatoXion 4 жыл бұрын
A very fair and respectable analysis.
@CJfunctional
@CJfunctional 4 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful and honest breakdown
@countdemonae3047
@countdemonae3047 4 жыл бұрын
I really like this video! You speak to my audience and is very relatable.
@cabalofdemons
@cabalofdemons 4 жыл бұрын
Brazilian jiu-jitsu teaches leg attacks, Gracie jiu-jitsu frowns on you for trying them ;). Honestly, there is no difference other than Gracie jiu-jitsu purports to teach self-defense. However, most (all?) gyms teach submissions, submission escapes, falling properly and proper movement. Guys that train "sport" jiu-jitsu like the Miyao Bros, Gordon Ryan, Buchecha and Tonon can certainly defend themselves in a street fight.
@tjl4688
@tjl4688 4 жыл бұрын
Many sport BJJ schools don't train against basic strikes or the shitty things that regular people do like headlocks or rear grabs.
@seamac7564
@seamac7564 3 жыл бұрын
Too funny. My first day in class and my first spar I did that jumping chest kick you see in the thumbnail....apparently they don't do that....
@slick222
@slick222 2 жыл бұрын
BJJ tries to win medals, GJJ tries to keep Jiu Jitsu from becoming Tae Kwan Do. Any questions?
@chrisviolanti2364
@chrisviolanti2364 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation. Thank you.
@johnetheridge5833
@johnetheridge5833 2 жыл бұрын
Brazilian jiu-jitsu came from gracie jiu-jitsu which came from original Japanese jiujitsu/judo.
@legbreaker
@legbreaker 4 жыл бұрын
Maeda's Japanese friends Sataki, Shimitsu, Laku and Omori were also the fathers of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, since GJJ came directory from Maeda->Carlos Gracie->... The whole world is talking about the 2 Gracie brothers as the real founders of BJJ. That is wrong, the Gracies were the founders of GJJ. Let us all never forget Luiz Franca (The same class where Carlos Gracie was a student of Maeda) and his student Oswaldo Fadda... Fadda continued Fraca's philosophy by teaching BJJ to the poor, instead of only the middle or upperclass of society. The Gracies were for the wealthy Rio's City Centre, while Franca worked in the favela's and the outskirts of Rio de Janeiro. BJJ was created for all people from their fathers Maeda -> Sataki -> Omori, Franca-> Fadda. Never forget the root differences between BJJ en GJJ!! Osu!
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
You are right, I will be releasing a video talking about the origins of BJJ in the next few days.
@legbreaker
@legbreaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@MMALeech Sorry about the haziness, but you are also right. I just wanted to make people realise the 2 different root beginnings of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Gracie Jiu Jitsu. The only common share between BJJ and GJJ from day one was Maeda. It all started in Brazil from Maeda and his friends (who also made their separate trips to many other countries, Shimitsu and Laku were Japanese from Argentina and Peru, first enemies and later in Brazil they merged their Japanese grappling root knowledges) from the Kodokan base and were send out to spread Judo from Jigoro Kano. Kano himself created Judo which came from old school Japanese Jiujitsu he learned as a youngster. Maeda travelled many years to other places before he went for the second time to Brazil and settled and married. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu from its roots is opensource. Maeda and his friends used the source code from Kano, opened it up, re-coded it and spread their new opensource code to their Brazilian students like Gracie and Franca..
@legbreaker
@legbreaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@MMALeech Great tip: read this book: www.bunasawakai.com/book
@wsmaga
@wsmaga 4 жыл бұрын
All I can say is AWESOME & WISE words. Thanks so much.
@gluckfod
@gluckfod 4 жыл бұрын
What a great recap of learning martial arts
@disinferno06
@disinferno06 4 жыл бұрын
Good video prof
@Lucky-go6xi
@Lucky-go6xi 4 жыл бұрын
the video had 999 likes , i clicked the like button . NOICCCEEEE
@tyhatfield7156
@tyhatfield7156 4 жыл бұрын
My question my friend and I agree with you 100% how old are you? I tried really really hard about eight hours a day open till I was 34 maybe 36...and then I said I’m not gonna do this anymore I’m just gonna be a teacher I’m just gonna work on my fun stuff that I love to do, and then that way as I get older :) I don’t get hurt at times it’s easy because it’s a lot easier to get hurt I’m 51 I’ll be 52! I started Gracie jujitsu in 1990 I’ve been training ever since I started wrestling when I was four, Greco when I was six, and catch Wrestling when I was 12! I’m telling you if you do stuff like that for years and years it takes a toll on you I finally twisted my knee a little bit, and it’s taking a bit to even get worked out of me I didn’t hurt really it’s gonna take six weeks, and I have to wear a brace. I never had anything like that happen, but that’s really important if you want to have your instructor around helping you need to just let them become teachers.
@johnnythepillpopper1974
@johnnythepillpopper1974 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s the difference.....when Rorion Gracie cane to America he registered the name so nobody else could use it.
@johnnythepillpopper1974
@johnnythepillpopper1974 4 жыл бұрын
MegaSkilla Gracie Jiu jitsu is the foundation of Brazilian Jiu jitsu, GJiu Jitsu was made to beat the other systems, sport Jiu jitsu was made to compete among each other.
@MesserTAMU
@MesserTAMU 4 жыл бұрын
@MegaSkilla to assume only the gracies can do combat jujitsu and then call everyone else ignorant is laughable. They don't have a monopoly on grappling in real fights.
@MesserTAMU
@MesserTAMU 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnythepillpopper1974 that is more combat bjj vs sport bjj, Gracie is just one brand when it comes to combat bjj. It's a trustworthy brand, but still only one of many.
@tonysmith1949
@tonysmith1949 3 жыл бұрын
Carlson said it best, self defence is for defending against people who don't know jiujitsu, jiujitsu is for defending yourself against other jiujitsu fighters. You're just parroting Rickson and Royce. Rickson is a champion, but still made dubious claims, Royce never won a championship, but did well against guys who didn't know jiujitsu. Good jiujitsu is knowing how to defend yourself and cross training (something Royce disagrees with), if you can defend punches, manage distance, get the takedown and stay on top to finish, or reverse to get on top, you should be able to defend yourself on the street. Plenty of mma fighters have made bjj work , without being trained in gjj, because they train for the parameters. It Doesn't take much to know if you fight on the street, beat them standing or if you're close takedown and finish fast (most likely with strikes), but watch your back and if you're on your back sweep, or stand up... Muay thai and bjj will likely neutralise someone of the same rank in gjj.
@johnnythepillpopper1974
@johnnythepillpopper1974 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonysmith1949 The only problem now is that thanks to cage fighting, many people know the basics, they’re armchair Jiu jiteros. So now if you don’t know groud fighting your at a disadvantage because most people have been exposed to it.
@Joru0906
@Joru0906 2 жыл бұрын
If I train Gracie jiu jitzu, then switch to bjj. Is it gonna take me another 10ish years to get a black belt? Or does it translate over to it?
@koliathahvorean489
@koliathahvorean489 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Koliath!
@EDJSCHOOLOFJIUJITSU
@EDJSCHOOLOFJIUJITSU Жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!
@Ali-Muscle
@Ali-Muscle 2 күн бұрын
What if a big guy wants to do Gracie jiu jitsu ?
@floyd666uk
@floyd666uk 2 жыл бұрын
what an excellent video
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@onerider808
@onerider808 3 жыл бұрын
Good info; thanks!
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome Mark!
@MansterBear
@MansterBear 2 ай бұрын
I go to a normal BJJ gym, but the prof does teach it with a self defense lense. Even more so in the kids classes. He regularly tells them, "So once we get to this position... what could they do to us? They could punch us, so we need to get control of the arm, and use our leg here..." etc. When I first started looking for gyms, I wanted to go to GJJ but the closest one is almost 1.5 hours away. My gym is in town and has been a really awesome place overall.
@ianj4389
@ianj4389 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation! Thank you.
@stupidhead9117
@stupidhead9117 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome attitude
@WestcountryDude
@WestcountryDude 4 жыл бұрын
Renzo Gracie's academy teaches Gracie jiu-jitsu, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, or just jiu-jitsu?
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
All of above.
@byronjuarez656
@byronjuarez656 4 жыл бұрын
I'm only a blue belt but the impression I get is - John Danaher (Renzo Gracie) specializes in leg locks (historically risky in MMA.) Therefore, I'd classify Danaher's subsection as BJJ, instead of GJJ.
@macaluso48
@macaluso48 Күн бұрын
Weapon defenses are useless just let it go headlock escapes punch block and distance management takedowns and throws so be mandatory foundation and the basic techs then after proficient use of it then allowed to spar just sparing as no stripe white belt makes u less able to apply the techs I recommend 2 stripe white to start rolling
@rivaidvaid6252
@rivaidvaid6252 4 жыл бұрын
JAPANESE JIU JITSU
@dumkoph
@dumkoph 4 жыл бұрын
What is Japanese Jiu jitsu???? Japanese is Jujitsu or Jujutsu denoting the Gendai / modern Western version or koryu Traditional version. Not sure about the other.
@randomx4289
@randomx4289 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy is trying to make Jiu-jitsu which is the original and obviously Japanese sound like it's a derivative form and therefore needs a defining letter like GJJ or BJJ.. what a load of crap. The original needs no such defining term or letter it's the original ffs. It's the derivatives or non-origin that needs a defining term.
@amknight7085
@amknight7085 2 жыл бұрын
would you say starting with gjj and slowly evolving into bjj would be a good idea?
@FR-ty5vn
@FR-ty5vn 4 жыл бұрын
Great 👍🏼 video - fights are not only about ego - besides a few sucker punches, I’ve had guns & knives pulled on me when I was not looking for trouble...Can happen anytime & anywhere, but I was living in rough hoods that make it more likely.
@WilliSchwartz
@WilliSchwartz 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation about the differences, which I did not know.
@Htrad
@Htrad 4 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between those who supposedly created bjj and bjj? How is this possible?
@WalintHUN
@WalintHUN 4 жыл бұрын
where i live theres many bjj schools like every 3rd gym and only 1 gjj garage other side of the city which is a small room and just a few ppl practicing like a family looks like it from its fb page. from my research to me it looks like bjj is more like for young ppl for sport and the gjj for anybody and focused on selfdefense n controll. for me like over 40 old i have an impression in bjj schools i will just be choked out as many times kids can catch me and laugh on me but gjj offers a more serious system to get in there. i think both has gi and no gi... or bjj can be started at any age too? i would love to learn some judo too but i have the same fear, im already to old to bein slammed to the ground... am i right? pls correct me if im wrong
@Daddy_Bear_722
@Daddy_Bear_722 4 жыл бұрын
Your assumptions are all pretty much spot on. Judo is definitely harder on your body, but still useful for an older person to gain a greater sense of balance, leverage, and body control...so as to be able to avoid being thrown to the ground in the first place. Just gotta decide if you're willing to suffer those aches and brushes along the way. 😅
@WalintHUN
@WalintHUN 4 жыл бұрын
@@Daddy_Bear_722 thx for the answer! well looks like i still have time to decide because of this virus craziness...
@libertycoffeehouse3944
@libertycoffeehouse3944 7 ай бұрын
The problem with MMA is that the techniques are for fighting someone in the same weight class. I have only been in a few fights and they were always guys who were much bigger than me and formidable. I would not feel comfortable using MMA technique with a 6 ft 4 athletic guy weighing 220 who has a violent or reckless attitude. Safer to apply Gracie Combatives class in this situation with one exception. Instead of trying to finish the fight the emphasis is on disengaging if possible only finish the fight if you can't disengage for some reason. BJJ and wrestling have kept me safe with dangerous hombres. Also stay fit and think tactically. Avoiding danger is the best way to stay safe. Most people do not have time to be elite grapplers but they do have time to practice 36 techniques. For this reason, I rate Gracie Combatives pretty high for the average person.
@AZTigerMMA
@AZTigerMMA 4 жыл бұрын
The way they teach is very methodical and less injury prone - but BJJ will get you better faster - new BJJ will make you just a bit more GI dependent - just a randoms opinion who has trained both
@soyouknow8207
@soyouknow8207 2 жыл бұрын
You should. You should train both, gi no gi. Train everything. I started with Japanese Jiu-Jitsu (which should get more love imo) back in the early 90's.
@alafifi101
@alafifi101 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Judo and Jigoro kano for this! Gracies specialized more on the ground. But they did not really invent the art. Go watch Kosen Judo and you would understand where BJJ or GJJ came from. Some Judokas also specialized on the ground like Maeda who made GJJ. And Maeda was a Kosen Judoka although he picked his training from Kodocan.
@harrisfrankou2368
@harrisfrankou2368 4 жыл бұрын
Gene Lebbel Hayward Gokor
@graciescottsdale
@graciescottsdale 4 жыл бұрын
Where did Judo come from?
@alafifi101
@alafifi101 4 жыл бұрын
graciescottsdale I know you are waiting on me to say that that un came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu! But BJJ isn’t Japanese Jiu Jitsu. You think Japanese Jiu Jitsu looked anything like BJJ? If you do then you are wrong! Actually BJJ looks more like Judo. In Japanese there wasn’t much grappling it. It was more like Aikido back then. Check on old Japanese Jiu Jitsu footage and you will understand what I am saying. And by the way old Japanese Jiu Jitsu was more Kata than sparring. This was reversed by Jigoro Kano himself when he focused more on sparring than Kata.
@LibraryAstro
@LibraryAstro 4 жыл бұрын
@@alafifi101 judo should have kept newaza along side throws. judo membership is cheap too. bjj and gjj dominate adcc and judo is no where to be seen. what a shame.
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
Maeda introduced Kano Jiu-Jitsu to the brazilians and to many other countries. Fortunately or unfortunately, the japanese didn't appreciate their own martial art and turned it into Judo instead. The Gracies kept the flame alive, modified it, and spread it to the world.
@EvanMona-y3j
@EvanMona-y3j 3 ай бұрын
146 Vaughn Corner
@maitrekano
@maitrekano 4 жыл бұрын
gjj and bjj where not created by the gracies it was a judoka named maeda who taught the gracies , maeda was a student of sensei Kano who started the kodokan judo institut . by the way yhe judoka Kimura did beat Helio gracie , so with all the respect you forget to name it ,
@MMALeech
@MMALeech 4 жыл бұрын
Helio beat many Judokas too, you forgot to name those. If you wanna discuss the origins of jiu jitsu then post your comment on this video please kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5q5qoiHptCKqNE
@graciescottsdale
@graciescottsdale 3 жыл бұрын
And Kano originally learned Jujutsu.
@a.m.m.4592
@a.m.m.4592 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation.
@RhinoXpress
@RhinoXpress 4 жыл бұрын
i feel that Gjj is based around more traditional techniques, where Bjj is open to newer variations of techniques. Eddie bravo brought this up one time on how he was trying to show the gracies his effective style of jj to incorporate it into Gjj and he got push back from a lot of the gracie family because of it. they pretty much flat out refused to incorporate his style of jj into their style of gracie jj. This is one of the reasons why bravo started up his own jj called 10th planet jj.
@tjl4688
@tjl4688 4 жыл бұрын
Eddie's style of BJJ is sport-focused, hence the pushback from the Gracies. It's incredible for competition, but the moment people start trying to beat punch you, it falls apart like a lot of sport BJJ. The Gracies had already had enough fights to know whether Bravo's stuff had any merit in self-defense or the cage.
@RhinoXpress
@RhinoXpress 4 жыл бұрын
@@tjl4688 Huh? Eddie has open hand jj tournaments, which is the closest you can get to actually someone punching you in the face.
@graciescottsdale
@graciescottsdale 3 жыл бұрын
@@RhinoXpress And look how fast the fight strategy changed when that started; no more 50/50.
@OriginalFallofMind
@OriginalFallofMind 2 жыл бұрын
@@graciescottsdale Doesn't mean it It's not effective. Everything evolves or you get left in the dust.
@waywillfind1709
@waywillfind1709 4 жыл бұрын
What about (TPJJ) Tenth Planet Jiu Jutsu?
@sdt44
@sdt44 3 жыл бұрын
10th planet jiu jitsu was made for mma,it has some sport techniques but the majority of techniques are made for mma, specially the rubber guard
@bennyrosado5402
@bennyrosado5402 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍 break down
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