Modern Horizons is Banned! | Gruul Eldrazi vs Esper Mentor

[@CardmarketMagic]

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[@jaminkauf6242]

After our Pauper games I should've known that Toffel is very good at topdecking 5-drops

[@badvoodoo2097]

Your deck could have used tolarian terror or murktide You could have put more pressure much faster Also they can block efficiently on reality smasher

[@ryanpattison6]

@Bad Voodoo good idea on the terror but murktide is a MH2 card, gurmag angler would be the next best thing, it's also possible this video was made before DMU released

[@fiercedeitylink2019]

@@ryanpattison6 founding of the third path is a dmu card

[@jugglingdynamite21]

Why does Toffel always draw whatever card was last said? 😂

[@Moersfreak]

The intro alone deserves my upvote, I don't even care what happens for the rest of the video! (figuratively, I very much want to see the video)

[@patrickjohnguevarra1974]

Can this be a series of videos This sure is an amazing concept A format without MH cards

[@Audentior_Ito]

Please!!! No MH-Modern is up there with pauper as one of my favorite "people's formats"

[@jaredstivers]

​@@Audentior_Ito and no one Ring or Orc. LotR set nuked as well.

[@mercadepalmer6967]

This was awesome. Crazy how pushed the MH sets are in hindsight

[@richardsmith9615]

They are nuts, but do you think maybe the reason they're so prevalent is because the goalposts for the metagame changed?

[@vinterbjork4128]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I don’t like sets for specific formats, neither Modern or EDH. Reprint are fine, but when theres auto include cards it makes the format feel so restricted.

[@Vi0ar]

I completely agree with the exception of standard, but that almost goes without saying. When they print for modern they are invalidating 20 years and 104 sets for 2 sets. Over 20,000 are replaced by 600ish

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

But it makes Hasbro a lot of MONYyyy

[@Audentior_Ito]

Agreed. It's why pioneer is far & away my favorite format. Much more accessible/affordable & functions as modern was intended to ("wow - I love this standard deck, how can I keep playing it?")

[@blaccoffee1]

As mostly a commander only player, I HATE almost any legendary creature printed in the last 10 years because they have this problem of being a commander all star. There's no "building around it" anymore, it's just "what does the card tell me my deck should have in it and do".

[@Nosphal]

@@blaccoffee1 totally agree with you!

[@Asian_Caleb]

The editing it must have taken to show us the cards in hand is super cool, very much worth the effort whoever is responsible for that!

[@aggedon7483]

You guys make the best MTG content on KZbin! After watching through the whole feature match playlist I look forward to the matches every week! 🙂

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's so kind! We'll try our best to make it worth it for you in the future :)

[@miloreinhart]

"There is no omnath!" Zendikar Rising: Am I a joke to you?

[@behemoth1158]

I also thought that at first but I think they meant the whole deck, cause glimpse and a lot of the other things they play is gone

[@casaroli]

I think he mixed it up with Wrenn and Six.

[@poiri]

7:50 I’m pretty sure fatal pushing the reshaper would work here since there’s no targeting restriction and by the time the push resolves the founding trigger is off the stack and so the saga is sacrificed.

[@jaminkauf6242]

But don't you have to cast the spell during resolution of III? During the game I actually thought about it, but it says 'sacrifice after III' and casting seems to be part of III I might be wrong and am willing to learn better :D

[@poiri]

@@jaminkauf6242 casting the spell is done during the resolution of the third chapter ability however fatal push can target anything even if it can't destroy it at the time. Once fatal push has been cast the chapter ability has finished resolving though fatal push is still on the stack. With the final chapter resolved the saga will be sacrificed as a state based action, then fatal push will resolve with active revolt. Please note: I am not a judge, though I am quite confident about this being correct.

[@commonfolk4864]

@@poiri That's right, this if how it works. Fatal push doesn't restrict the targeting, nor it "choose" effect. You target, saga sacrifices itself, on resolve it checks for revolt (and it checks true) and destroys the seer

[@jaminkauf6242]

@@poiri ah yeah, that makes sense - the saga doesn't wait around for resolution, it only cares about casting.

[@abusus75]

This is correct

[@blade6321]

This was a delight to watch. Great sketch/premise and lots of fun. The top deck had me wheezing!

[@janisschock9191]

Quite possibly the best content on this channel so far. A lot of fun to watch!! Would be fun to watch some other 'makebelieve' episodes, maybe something with some modified or completely custom cards.

[@aeksie]

I think Toffel went crazy. He talks about weird OP cards that he made up and whats "modern horizons" supposed to mean?

[@GATECHMANgames]

Yo! I’m a demon, you get a wish 😂😂😂

[@Luna19912]

Hey, you actually played my list! Thanks! It was really fun to see in action

[@CardmarketMagic]

It's actually an awesome deck! It feels really powerful 🙂

[@Luna19912]

@@CardmarketMagic Thanks! I'm really glad you liked it!

[@Luna19912]

@@CardmarketMagic I could probably afford to run fewer lands tho

[@hopeforthebestx]

This was an amazing video. Really fantastic content. Thanks for existing, keep it up. Also that was a really sneaky veil play in game 3, wow

[@Arcticsharpshooter]

Amazing video! I feel like I have watched a whole movie with good plot, and based on my favorite hobby no less! Thank you Cardmarket, wonderful idea and execution!

[@raccoonhatcity7627]

I rarely like a video before reaching the end... But that intro 🧑‍🍳 * chef kiss *

[@Ragnarok633]

Between this and the last pauper match you guys look like you're having so much fun and these are my favorite videos.

[@nikolaskohl4269]

Pfft! The opening is gold : ) And it was really fun to see some of the new cards play with old modern decks. It's like a window into what modern would look like if it added a few great cards over time rather than, well, you know : )

[@transegg7780]

Happy Thoralf makes me happy. Awesome gameplay yet again!

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

28:10 I so agree, mistakes happen and as someone who records most of his matches, I'm also often confronted with my own mistakes, but that's part of what makes this game so interesting :D On to Game 3!

[@Threadoflength]

Hmm, my first thought on seeing that play was that he was throwing on purpose for content.

[@SeleenShadowpaw]

Toffel being all happy and excited is my new spirit animal :D

[@michaelstapley4878]

That intro with Toffel was adorable. One of the most amusing videos I've watched in a while.

[@RoninRose541]

Y’all’s content is so good keep it coming please!!!!!😂❤

[@KorGgenT]

toffel's excitement made me excited. also i love the outro

[@sen_dev]

I love you guys. I don't even play Pioneer or Modern and binged watch most of your feature matches!

[@AnonYmous-et4mz]

I adore the little skits and lovingly crafted intros. This was very fun :)

[@TimEddyHughes]

As little as it matters now, you *would* get revolt off the Fatal Push. 7:43 The way it works is you target the Instant/Sorcery in the graveyard, and resolve the abilitiy - exiling and and copying it, allowing you to cast the copy. Once you 'finish' resolving that trigger, the Founding would be put into the GY as a state based action and 'trigger' revolt.

[@therealax6]

Funnily enough, this only works because of how Fatal Push is worded! Since it allows you to target any creature (and it only checks mana value on resolution), you can target the 4 mana value creature even before a permanent has left the battlefield. (Since you're casting Fatal Push as part of the resolution of Founding the Third Path's ability, the latter isn't sacrificed until Fatal Push is already on the stack.)

[@YoSoyJu]

After watching the Professor’s latest video, I would love to see you guys build what you think would be the best Modern decks in a fetchless world.

[@AAIIYAAA]

Keep the mini skits. They’re AWESOME

[@btrbt8613]

"Kari Zev costs two." 😂😂😂

[@antoniopaolucci8194]

These video are so well produced. Definitely the best magic content on youtube.

[@owenyates6046]

Love these two together! More please!

[@chesanceram4842]

BTW Thoralf running 7th edition lands! He is a man of culture :)

[@mikemoyer8162]

You get +1 for the intro alone. You'd get one anyways, but that intro was great

[@chadjehebej2258]

What a match🔥 If you can, please play Oops all spells next time you play modern :)

[@chesanceram4842]

The intro! Magnificent! :D

[@Legend0fBarry]

i love how they committed to the bit, so funny haah

[@naruyashan]

I know I'm late to the party, but I'd love to see more of this. It was super refreshing!

[@TheWaffletron9000]

Love the content guys! Would really love to get into modern one day and your vids fuel that love of the game!

[@jamesfilyawDigginGabe]

Giddy-as-can-be Thoralf was so adorable and genuinely made my day.

[@alecolson8360]

I love your sideboard discussions

[@Sunbro4464]

the correct timeline

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

0:38 oh, boy. I know the feeling.

[@Heavymetalhunk]

My gruul Eldrazi deck is running all the Titans plus eureka, hideaway lands, and more sneaky stuff haha I love it cause death comes outta nowhere

[@lucasamoncio6402]

The good ending universe, I bet their 30th anniversary product is banger

[@EAD6031]

Clear explanations and you guys are fun to watch playing. A delight

[@alvarogordillonunez5726]

I'm really in love with all the effort you put in this videos. KEEP IT UP

[@SassyCasserole]

Can you do another "no MH" modern? I LOVED this. Would definitely watch over other modern gameplay. Loving all your content, keep it up!

[@CardmarketMagic]

We're planning on doing one, but not too too soon after the last one. Maybe in a few months if MH2 is still taking modern hostage :)

[@SassyCasserole]

@@CardmarketMagic wonderful thank you! Keep up the good work!

[@rileynelson8560]

I think this was my favorite video yet. You guys are awesome!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! 😃 we try our best

[@matigow]

Please do more of these! This is really fun

[@cadrenadams9109]

I have only seen toffel sitting at a desk. I had no clue how short he was until other homie stood up 😂

[@Arcticsharpshooter]

I've got one observation for your Production team, Cardmarket. Toffel's commentary at 29:32 didn't make much sense because he had not drawn his Veil of Summer yet. I even thought at first that he may have mixed up the Boreal Druid and the Veil, but then I noticed he mentions both. This fragment should have been inserted after him drawing the Veil of Summer - then it made sense for him to change his intended turn 3 play.

[@CardmarketMagic]

We tried an a new freelance editor. We spotted the mistake too late, there will always be some growing pains when adding new people to the team :) - Carl

[@Kratosauron0]

How long did it take to make that summoning circle?

[@CardmarketMagic]

Longer than we would care to admit 😅

[@Repaurcas]

Very nice Video, I loved it! I think there was a bauble Trigger missed in Game 3, but I don't think it mattered :)

[@abusus75]

Guy please more of this !!! More of mh1/2 banned !!!

[@bananalord3882]

Godd I wish I could like so many of your videos more than once and this is just adding to the list

[@maaikevreugdemaker9210]

Videos like these are amazing because they showcase the cards! Love it

[@phrikaphrak40k]

Wow, interactive and (almost) no free spells. Truly a better timeline

[@the7569]

even though there are definitely some fun cards in modern horizons 1&2 I don't think that it is a hot take for me to say I wish they were never made. like it's fine for the metagame of modern to evolve and change and some decks to become less playable and some more playable, but my main problem with these modern horizons sets has been the fact that I feel like most of my cards are useless. like the collection that's been built over years of playing magic in this format and only a few of those cards and almost the entirety of modern horizons is worth playing. it's like outside of my fetches and shocks non modern horizons cards are actually Staples I want to keep in my decks. not to mention and I know that this is going to sound evil but it is true, I love infect. I have been an infect player for a very long time now and modern horizons just murdered that deck. this was a really fun look into an alternate timeline that I wish was real

[@Persillebalzm]

it's like *gasps* standard rotation

[@yes.thatjanedoe]

love how in this alternate reality, Murderous Cut is the best removal spell

[@hermelin12]

Very nice concept to play like we would play in a world without mh1 and 2 I like how demons grant wishes now lol. Best actor demon Carl :D

[@yes.thatjanedoe]

That Outro music is such a BOP!

[@christopherpie8559]

I wish that this happened in real life, I never even played modern very actively, but it's clear how much the Modern Horizons stuff wrecked the format.

[@Starkipraggy]

that stinger is gold, I laughed my socks off

[@Polyphemus89]

In the second game Thoralf could’ve just swung for lethal because he had prot blue so the ledger shredder couldn’t block.

[@GeomancerHT]

Fatally pushing the bird to a wall.. you can also fatally push an arrow through its body XD

[@piotrsykut6999]

around ~8:00 there was consideration of casting fatal push from Founding's 3rd chapter, but you've said it doesn't get revolt - I'm conviced it does. As the chapter 3 resolves it exiles the spell from GY and creates a copy on the stack. After 3rd chapter resolution, the ability goes away from the stack, leaving only Fatal Push and the saga would sacrifice itself due to chapter 3 being put down from the stack. Am I wrong here?

[@Scottynsb765]

Jamin’s commitment to the bit was so good 😂

[@Razomka]

Excellent matches and really enjoyed the ending skit! It would be true as well 😆

[@smartkaboose3806]

That reality smasher off the top was so fucking funny 😂😂😂

[@DackKija]

Poor Jamin (9:05)

[@charginggemo8340]

"There's no omnath!" Me:looks at my commanderless commander deck

[@kurtgrgelwrx8376]

that intro is glorious, love it

[@luismiguelfigueiredopalerm8470]

Guys, when jamin cast his first " can't stay away", i think there is a missplay, because he taps a island and a watery grave, but " can't stay away" costs a black and a white. Am i correct ????? I'm Brazilian, so i possibly have wrote some words in the wrong way, Sorry :))))

[@AricHaldan0782]

It's funny how Toffel is explaining why targeting the mentor was a mistake without realizing he actually had a great attack in the end. This is probably because he forgot that mentor had already grown from the prowess triggers. As a result, he had 3 lethal attackers while Jamin had only 3 blockers. Ledger Shredder was only a 4/5, so it would be forced to chump block the reality smasher. Of course targeting the shredder could've given him lethal by conniving himself, so it might still have been better to pick Shredder.

[@nadoghost146]

Shredder is a 1/3 with 3 counters, it won't die

[@poketech7192]

THIS IS MY FAVORITE FEATURE MATCH YET.

[@stormcountmtg4183]

Now we can build a jund deck

[@janmelantu7490]

Sometimes you gotta just Jund ‘em out

[@waves-]

I loved the skit at the start :D

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! We planned it for a really long time ahead of the video :D

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

I forgot Unearth was made modern-legal in MH1

[@redblackdg]

Should have kept track of the Mentor. He could have assigned lethal to the mentor that was reanimated. Making it get exiled so you could not reanimate it again in game 2

[@herrar6595]

I honestly like the elementals, from a casual player standpoint their versatility is very cool. Ragavan I don´t like as much though.

[@betabrett0223]

I really enjoyed the intro and gameplay, thanks

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

I wonder if the ban list is unchanged in this format. Like Bridge from Below was only banned because of Hogak who wouldn't have happened in this format

[@bombarded15]

Loved the intro, top notch guys!

[@olio16]

I love Thoralf's performance in this.

[@CosmicEncounter7]

Jamin's acting skills are top tier in this episode.

[@johnlancaster2841]

I’d love a spin-off format that’s literally just modern without modern horizons. It would be so good.

[@su0tin731]

Isn't countering the Instigator a better play than waiting for it to control your Ledger Shredder?

[@renatoalves-diariodemercad3012]

Thoralf explanations are perfect! Thanks

[@cameronkueneman2519]

Wouldn't in game 1 the third path getting it's third counter send it to the graveyard? Since there are no more chapters it is sacrificed as a state based effect? The trigger would be on the stack as the saga is sacrificed... Pretty sure, could be wrong. Interesting interaction!

[@bentudman]

Love the backstory intro!

[@mosgon]

Hilarious intro! Keep up the great work!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :D happy you enjoyed it!

[@brendanhoover7031]

what're your opinons on MH1? IMO it struck a good balance between shaking up the format while not completely taking it over. MH2 on the other hand has obviously done a lot of irreverable damage to the modern format

[@wavedash101]

MH1 ruined Modern far more than MH2 ever did. Hogaak and a billion miserable GY decks, and Urza pushing Opal over the top.

[@igorkruzhalov9749]

That's a great video! for the next one, would you consider a relentless rats deck? ideally the edh one

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's a super fun idea! But unfortunately, it would probably make for rather poor content 😕

[@igorkruzhalov9749]

@@CardmarketMagic yeah, that makes sense, thank you for your response anyway!

[@BoltTheEmolga]

Am pretty curious how different this would go now, if at all

[@BW-CZ]

Demon Carl was amazing lol

[@InquisitorSinCross]

That self-mill in the first game was a HUGE mistake. Especially when Jamin was holding DitL in the hand, which requires a "critical mass" to work.... Edit: Veil of Summer can go screw itself together with all Eldraine set and whoever designed this atrocity

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

After MH, see eldrazi playing feels like home. Haha