Monogamy Is Kinky Now?

[@pint_pipe_cross]

Imagine thinking that the 80-year-old couple holding hands at the grocery store is an example of a toxic relationship. 😂

[@edisonk5566]

That's 10/10 kinky

[@peacockgarage]

​@@BC92Se7enhonestly yeah. It's really ridiculous and stupid that people turn it into this. This is our world now...

[@peacockgarage]

And also. That couple has most likely been through a lot together, so the fact that they still are together should be a sign that they have a strong relationship and respect for each other.

[@jendoe9436]

Brings to my mind the scene in “Parks and Rec” where April (stereotypical goth type, don’t care, life is ugh type girl) goes up to a smiling, hand holding old couple at a Valentine’s Day dance and in near tears tells them how wonderful and sweet they look together. Of course she says it when none of her friends or people who really know her are around, which just makes it funnier because she knows that’s one of the big love goals in life.

[@pint_pipe_cross]

@@peacockgarageAbsolutely. I once worked with a couple who had been married for nearly 70 years when I did CNA work at a retirement home. At 88, the husband was holding doors open and pulling chairs out for his wife, even when using a walker. She had some age-related memory issues, and he still treated her like royalty. I don’t understand who wouldn’t want that in a long-term relationship.

[@brothersbornmedia]

It amazes me how many people are legit shocked when I tell them I have only ever been sexually involved with my wife and no one else. We have been married 16 years. Monogamy is awesome.

[@beefbossfromwiisports]

Awesome!!

[@ninja36inc]

Nothing wrong with that just shows you have a strong relationship I take my hat off to you both

[@mikemoon5077]

I’ve been with my high school girlfriend 27 years now

[@scottyb.8710]

You did it right my friend. I wish I could go back and do different.

[@mesamom62]

The same goes for my husband and I. We have only been with each other for the 45 years of our relationship, 41 of those married. And get this- we waited until we were married to have sex! Even back then, in the dark ages, my family thought we were just not interested. No, it was a matter of keeping ourselves out of situations where our self control might fail, and using the self control God developed in us. And how do I know he's been faithful? He's as transparent as anything. Guilt would shine right through. We have been happy, and not without our share of difficulties. Monogamy brings peace of mind and a bond stronger than any other in this life.

[@annettepaul7129]

Had a polyamorous person try to convince me that monogamy is "controlling and abusive" 🙄

[@kakr4739]

Bro, next thing you know, something like hanging out with friends is going to considered "a form of aggression"

[@anthonym840]

@@kakr4739 Ive already heard this. But its in the form of feminists saying that men hanging out with each other is patriarchy.

[@FlawlessP401]

Because these psychos think all rules even those people choose to follow are oppression

[@kakr4739]

@@anthonym840 I'm kinda really scared that I don't find that too shocking.

[@Alicia-yn6gt]

I’ve heard arguments that you’ll have more help with the kids… but there will be more kids…

[@jessicadesrosiers7467]

The most amazing feeling in the world is waking up next to a person and knowing that you're their favorite human and they are yours. It's beautiful and so fulfilling. These are just sad, lonely people.

[@liamhalla6803]

It sure is

[@zerochill6451]

exactly

[@X-Prime123]

Yeah and knowing that they are only yours and you are only theirs. It's pretty special.

[@rjohnsoneod]

I can't wait to tell my wife that after 40 yrs of faithful marriage, we are considered kinky. Maybe I will go to the local sex toy shop and set up a table to give kinky advice on how to stay loyal and true to "only" one person. Thank you Brett letting us know.

[@alnu8355]

Tell her you only have eyes for her. That NO one can replace her. That'll spice it up!

[@elaizakaguya4631]

I wanna laugh at this cause I'm feeling sure this was satire But honestly I'm happy for you both 40yrs together ain't easy But for the sake of you and me please don't do the table thing I can't form a correct image in my mind for that one 😂

[@JoFa876]

Own that kink!!! 😁

[@SirBrass]

​@@elaizakaguya4631it would be hilarious though. Also older married couples DO need lube. They're old, not dead 😛

[@backdoorsluts_9]

“Give kinky advice” 😂😂😂😂

[@Alaska_Mac]

It's amazing how people act like rediscovering normality is some groundbreaking new thing

[@Alaska_Mac]

@@Iamachad-qf6qj nah, I've seen enough of him to know that I'm not a fan

[@mry1222]

I know right like on the news they're now talking about how "giant kites can now drag ships across the ocean". Sails?!

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

@@Iamachad-qf6qjsuccess does not equal truth. Hassan piker is successful. Obama is successful. Epstein was successful. Need I go on?

[@coonhound_pharoah]

@@Iamachad-qf6qj He is successful because naive, stupid, and lost young men like yourself line his pockets with social media views and buying into his confidence game. Confidence is the game of a con man and a fraud. When he is being pegged in a Romanian prison you won't think he is so successful.

[@indepthmike5578]

It's kind of like how some people in younger generations are watching older series shows from the 2000s or 90s because so much of the new stuff if remakes and recycled ideas from the past.

[@urfaes6878]

If monogamy is kinky, I'm all for that kink. Everyone should try monogamy. It's a gateway to fun and eventful experiences. Don't tell anyone else.

[@oldmanjinkinsskyrim737]

Based

[@DragonsAndDragons777]

Based

[@JohnDoe-pb3xn]

+ rep absolutely based.

[@veronicaana]

What kind of fun and eventful experiences? If someone gets bored easily with one person, what is the problem with them venturing out?

[@MegaMilenche]

@@veronicaana If someone gets bored easily with one person, what is the problem with them venturing out? Nothing, but they can only have that other person. You understand you can't have polyamory if everybody is not okay with it.

[@alexrice1870]

When I was 14 I predicted that punk or counterculture would eventually become having a family, being religious, being healthy, etc.

[@stringlightdoggy]

same here. i always thought that looking slightly "alternative" would be the norm in the future. i was right!

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

Tate was right from the start

[@terrorists-are-among-us]

It's been a long running joke on TV.

[@alexrice1870]

@@terrorists-are-among-us I was 14 a long time ago hahahaha

[@FatalSensation]

Religion is by far one of the dumbest things that man-kind has ever created.

[@Meowz3r]

I just told my husband that Monogamy is immoral and kinky. He just looked at me like I had two heads. “Well that’s dumb, I like our kink then” 😂 going on 3 years married and have a 4 month old

[@jonathanharris9261]

I think this is what happens when pornagraphy becomes a social norm. Everything is viewed through the lense of sexual excitement.

[@marktheprussian]

Exactly. It’s literally dissolving our society. I believe it should be banned if it could, but that won’t happen because you can’t censor the internet completely.

[@SirBrass]

How dull do these people have to be to be sexually bored with their spouse.

[@MiguelMedV]

These lonely journalists be visiting the hub daily 💀✋🏼💥...

[@CountessOfOle]

At this rate, saving yourself until marriage will be considered a kink. I already have people looking at me like I have three heads whenever it comes out that my husband and I were both each other's firsts on our wedding night.

[@melinastoutt9319]

That is beautiful.❤

[@chucksolutions4579]

My wife and I too!! We were 25&28 and have been married fifteen years! Hardest thing I ever did, but so worth it!

[@jimmcneal5292]

Of course it's a bit strange, unless you were a teen when you got married

[@hazeltulip]

They call it “demisexual.” Lol

[@InitialPC]

it already is

[@Robert53area]

I was at a german restaurant the other night, I saw an elderly couple in their 80s and they were dancing all night. That is life goals, being in your 80s and still married for 60 years.

[@lorrygeewhizzbang9521]

There's German restaurants with music? cool.

[@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564]

THIS. This is what I was looking for when choosing my wife. Someone to grow old and die with, knowing all beauty would fade and we'd have good days and bad days.

[@aaronwylie6928]

I see couples who are 65+ at the gym, doing heavy weights and being very fit. Goals

[@jimmcneal5292]

That's weird

[@stella-m8449]

Omg that had to be so adorable. That is what people who wants marriage and kids aspire. It's kind of sad that it seems like something so rare like, shouldn't it be the standard. :/

[@HPTFan]

I never thought monogamy would be a rebellious thing to do, and here we are.

[@Jonathan-fu5hx]

I always thought I was too afraid to be a rebel. Now, thanks to the ever-changing definitions of the left, I'm a rebel! Yeah Baby!

[@liamhalla6803]

This is fricked up, dude

[@screamingopossum7809]

Being conservative is considered Punk. Never thought I would see the day where “Trump is Punk” is a statement I would have said.

[@veronicaana]

ACTUALLY, monogamy does not need to be the only way people live their lives if it is not natural for them. Monogamy is NOT natural.

[@hellsonly8908]

It's not. Monogamy is something you can choose the same way others can choose polyamory, and others can choose asexuality. You are not a rebel. You just want the title.

[@kylefischer6428]

Just remember this one thing: whenever someone argues for polyamory based on how it is selfless to let your partner have other sexual partners, what they are really saying is that they want to have other sexual partners. It's the classic selfishness two-step: I will act like I really want love (so-called) for someone else when what I really want is for them to do this for me.

[@veronicaana]

So how is the person wanting to be poly selfish and the other not? Why can't they decide what is good for their own body if it does not involve the other person?

[@d3m0n54in7]

​@@veronicaanaConsent. That's what the problem is. If your partner wanted to practice BDSM and wanted you to be their Sub in a physical humiliation role and you don't enjoy that, should you be required to stay in a relationship with that person and entertain their desires? More accurately, imagine if you were in a relationship and your partner suddenly started putting white supremacist flags all over your shared living space and shamed you for not paying for their Uber ride to the rallies and everyone called you a bigot and a dictator for not supporting them, then when you finally leave the relationship, they file a lawsuit against you and take 30% of your yearly income for the next 14 years with no lawyer willing to defend your position for less than $2million.

[@kylefischer6428]

@@veronicaana 1. Because they are cloaking selfishness in the guise of selflessness. Also, see point two below, as being poly introduces a number of risks that monogamy, if properly applied, does not. The person pursuing polyamory is willing to open up all partners involved to those risks; the monogamous person is unwilling to do so and will curtail their own desires to that end. 2. Multiple sexual partners is not 'good' for your body as everyone knows. It brings a.) emotional trauma, b.) massive risk of STDs, c.) confusion in the realm of procreation, d.) sets up all partners involved for jealousy, instability. 3. Monogamy is the opposite of selfishness. It is a binding of yourself to another and that person to you. It is entered into voluntarily, and if carried through without infidelity and with virtue (a big 'if' granted), answers all four issues raised above in point two.

[@K0HAKU_97]

My husband and I only ever dated each other, then immediately married as soon as we graduated high school and were both 18. We knew after the first year of dating that we wanted to continue being together, so we did. We were in a committed relationship for three years before getting married, and before that we were best friends for two years. We made sure to talk about our personal values, what we want out of life, and what we want out of our partners for life. We always made sure to communicate our honest thoughts and feelings to each other, positive and negative, and we learned to fully trust one another. If you keep proper communication, things like jealousy become an impossible thing. Even if one of us sees someone that is objectively more attractive than our partner, we know we’ve built a relationship of love and trust that the other wouldn’t just throw away for a prettier face. And yes we were both virgins till marriage, which probably helped greatly to not unconsciously compare each other to previous partners, since there are none. TLDR: Take plenty of time to get to know their personalities, morality, and likes/dislikes BEFORE dating. You’re a whole lot less likely to end up with an a-hole if you do.

[@JohnDoe-pb3xn]

Ugh this gave me diabetes from how sweet it is, thanks for that…

[@katie_katzz8182]

Let’s call it what it is adultery. Not “ethical non-monogamy”, adultery and cheating which is very much immoral.

[@brunogamesbr1]

Cheating Implies the relationship is just a game, here in Brazil we just call them traitors because that's what they are

[@0potion]

​@@brunogamesbr1Well over here in America the actual term for it is adultery. I don't know how cheating got used as a replacement for it. What the proper way to say it Here America would be to call Is someone an adulterer if they are guilty of infidelity to their husband/wife.

[@malikdespanie4344]

It's also sinful.

[@theluschmaster]

🎯

[@dpjd575]

It's only cheating if your partner is not involved. or aware it's happening

[@abigaillaseter9837]

Why is being normal so weird 😂

[@whitleypedia]

They did this on 30 Rock over 10 years ago

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

Monogamy is not normal. Polygamy is normal. Science.

[@kiowah231]

@@Iamachad-qf6qj Source: (trust me bro)

[@kiowah231]

@@Iamachad-qf6qj Source: (trust me bro)

[@Joreel]

​@@Iamachad-qf6qjAs a Behavioral Scientist, I'd love to see the evidence of your claims? Can you please post some of the links to the studies you've read that validate your supposition. Also link the references used in those studies so we can all see who conducted them and how they collected their data.

[@ashcarmichael9434]

I was in a poly relationship... once. It was just as bad as the experience these people had. You're right, its not the type of relationship, its the people.

[@infectaphibian]

Been there and know others who have as well and learned this: If your S.O. tells you they want to be poly, what they are really saying is "I want to date and have sex with other people, but if you do the same thing I'm going to go psycho on you."

[@friktogurg9242]

It is so clear that these sort of people in poly relationships are screwed in the head. Whenever you meet these sort of people, you should ask yourself, do they have any friends much less friends with the opposite gender. ( haha get it cause only two genders)

[@hellsonly8908]

Okay that's anecdotal

[@LordBaktor]

I honestly think there is such a thing as a healthy level of jealousy. How you handle it is where problems might arise. I think being upfront and saying "it bothers me when other people flirt with you, especially if you flirt back, even if you just do it to be polite" is the healthiest option I can think of. If they keep doing it you have a problem to tackle, if they respect that boundary once you've made it clear, all is good.

[@InitialPC]

if my woman is flirting with other men she will very quickly no longer be my woman

[@LordBaktor]

@@InitialPC That's basically what I meant. First time, you get the boundary speech. Second time, you're out.

[@janusn9]

I agree with you 100% take care brother. 🤙🤙

[@sanzalure6091]

I find it very hard to believe that people in a non monogamous relationship will never experience jealousy, envy, mistrust, distrust, suspicion and all other natural emotions and feelings that happen naturally when people interact with one another.

[@naczilu8483]

No that’s not natural!1!11! Non monogamy is the only natural thing humans experience duh

[@lamaridechambao2105]

​@@naczilu8483I don't see it natural bro, how do you make a bond with your partner? Oh duh with multiple that you don't even remember their names

[@maurits1005]

​@@lamaridechambao2105pretty sure it was sarcasm

[@theredstar6493]

I guess they don't connect with their partner in first place to feel those emotions Like even tho I've never been in an relationships I've already decided that I'm either gonna demand 100% loyalty in various forms or not expect anything from someone by not offering anything Like I won't care it you sleep with anyone else as long as I'm allowed to sleep with others and your place in my heart would probably be nothing more than a friend that I can sleep with ( first preference would be to look for a right partner for monogamy and settle down, in rare instance if I failed to do that might slip in this line) To keep me monogamous my partner would have to offer me a way serious level of loyalty, anything less is where I won't consider them as partner or keep it open

[@sanzalure6091]

@@naczilu8483 I have an uncle who made the genealogy of our family all the way down to our arrival in this continent around year 1650. All of them monogamous. Doesn't mean no one had an affair here and there. But they all lived their life in a monogamous mode, raising their children with both a mother and a father. This seems natural to me. Younger generations who have body counts in the three or four digits, that is not natural in my opinion. And the results are dismaying. In schools, teachers are so busy making discipline, that they don't have time to teach the kids anything. I have seen countless videos of people on the sidewalk asking random Gen-Z people very simple questions and getting ridiculous answers. They sure know how to fuck around, but little else. Anyway, I have zero control on this situation. Only time will tell whether what is happening is natural or not. If it was indeed natural, society will continue. If not, society will collapse. Bets are opened.

[@SimpleLifeUwU]

I once had a conversation with my classmate who came from a rich family many years ago. He told me that he wanted to have multiple girlfriends even after he married to someone, just like his father. I said that I felt sorry for him, because if one has to find multiple girlfriends even he was married, apparently he didn’t like the girl he married that much, so he still need other girls to fill the hole inside his heart. I told him that, I would want to marry my dream girl, who will fill the holes in my heart with love. If that happens, I would just marry that girl only, because I am fully satisfied, and there will be no need to have any romantic relationship outside of marriage. My classmate was a talkative guy, but he suddenly stop talking and let that sink in. Many years later, he is happily married to his dream girl that truly filled his heart with love, made him a less Quirky person that goes along with others, and have zero cheating outside his marriage.🎉🎉🎉 I am happy that he didn’t chose the path of his father’s.

[@kelleysussman8114]

I was married to my husband for 35 yrs he was all I needed, he was my BFF and I Trusted him completely.He was not my master and I was not his we were partners . I lost him in 2020 and miss him so much , he was my heartbeat and always will be.

[@veronicaana]

Sorry for your loss, but most people do not get that. Most people do not get eternal love. It is not real for most people. I am married now and I can't wait to get rid of him.

[@joshuabissey]

Jealousy is a healthy part of a monogamous relationship. It means you refuse to share your partner (romantically or sexually) with others.

[@MylesKillis]

I got told I had a breeding kink because I wanted to have kids…………. I stayed off my phone for a week after that. 😂😂

[@toejam516]

wow

[@peacockgarage]

Wait, so dedicating time and and love to one person is kinky? People just have no self control...

[@XxLostFinalGirlxX]

It's so crazy! 🤪

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

Self control is pure cope. No man wants the same flavour 24/7. Have to switch it up

[@robertbusek30]

The virtue of self-control (also called temperance) is in direct opposition to the modern zeitgeist of “Do what you feel.”

[@indepthmike5578]

Self control requires some degree of discipline and there's nothing in the current culture that instills that.

[@FatalSensation]

or just let people enjoy their life.

[@limbonlegs1662]

There was this short story i had to read for school a few years ago called The Gift of the Magi. It was about a poor couple around the 1920's I believe. Christmas was coming up, and each wanted to buy a hift for the other. The lady sold her long locks to buy her husband a chain for his pocket watch. However, he had sold his pocket watch to buy her a fancy hair comb. In the end, the gifts were rendered useless, but the detication to each other was stronger than ever

[@Joreel]

I remember that story ❤

[@whiteout711]

I watched the micky mouse version of that as a kid 😅

[@veronicaana]

Ok. only like 1/3 of the population experiences eternal love. Love is not actually real for most of the population. That is why you can by poly, you can just like more than 1 person.

[@veronicaana]

Also being poly opens doors for you to be able to feel love instead of being stuck with someone you may only think you love. Most people do not actually know what love it.

[@glorytoglo2307]

The author is O’Henry! He has a lot of short stories that are similarly interesting with good lessons!

[@bellzhellz5922]

I remember watching a therapist on youtube describe a person wanting a monogamous relationship as being insecure and clingy... like what the actual hell is going on 😅

[@middleeasternforhire8985]

Lol imagine the sane part of America leaves the country to live somewhere else and these idiots stay lol half the continent would sink into the ocean cause the other part of the us would eventually discover that everything and everyone is racist and phobic and bad they would nuke themselves

[@tylercoughranmusic]

2:51 is basically their mentality now. Also, that was a really funny Brett moment 😆

[@shab_nak]

and this is the same people who say that their sехuality is under attack. imagine saying something like that about homosехuals in 2020s. the sad thing is, it was said about them a lot back in the days, but now these hypocrites are gonna to continue the tradition

[@dawnelder9046]

They are trying to justify their evil behavior.

[@mechadoggy]

This is why I generally don’t trust modern therapists these days

[@kakr4739]

The saddest part is that me, a youth, and some friends, are scared to grow up, just because of the world we're being brought into

[@c1s1125]

Don't get sucked into the Malthusian Worldview. It's social engineering to make people into helpless cattle to be controlled by a CBDC.

[@thac0twenty377]

we all felt that way kid

[@AJWRodeo]

Coming from another youth, just dont give a frick about what anybody says about your "kinky" monogamous relationship. Now I'm not making any decisions like I'm marrying this girl as soon as I can or do "it" as soon as we can, but I know what I want and that is a "kinky" relationship with me, a good, wonderful, woman and a few kids in a white house with a wraparound porch up on a hill on our ranch. And I wont stop working my fat ass off on this farm until I get there.

[@jessicabaker1274]

My good friend at work has been happily married for 34 years, and still absolutely adores this woman. His face lights up every time he talks about her. Something i would love to have eventually 😊

[@johnnk3256]

The number of open relationships destroying marriages is astounding. Truly astounding. 3 couples I know tried it in the last year and all 3 are getting divorced now. This is what happens when you normalize promiscuity. Men, stop wifing up 304s. Women pick better husbands (not partners).

[@screamingopossum7809]

I don’t understand the term “Partner”. This isn’t a fucking school assignment. This isn’t a project you’re going to end. “Significant Other” I can at least get behind.

[@johnnk3256]

@@screamingopossum7809: I prefer wife and husband, through and through.

[@JohnDoe-pb3xn]

I prefer pardner.

[@normanicole4714]

Plenty of open relationships save marriages.

[@johnnk3256]

@@normanicole4714 😂😂😂 An open marriage is not a marriage. If you can't be monogamous to your husband, stay unmarried and sleep around. It's that simple.

[@HostileTakeover555]

Mental illness is something to be dealt with not celebrated. This desperate need to be contrarians make me think these are emotionally shallow people.

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

Andrew tate is right on wemen. Treat them for what they are (304s) and you will be successful. Thats what i did

[@zillionclick]

​​@@Iamachad-qf6qjemen? It's women lol

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

@@zillionclick I got burned by a girl in HS. Never committing again. Could not care what they are. Ever since i started treating them as 304s, been more successful in getting hookups which is all i care for

[@Jadyn___]

Absolutely

[@JackieOwl94]

@@Iamachad-qf6qjYou ok bro? You sound like your head was mashed in with a hot iron.

[@AulisVaara]

Small insight: the people who stand behind an idea like this no longer understand friendship or admiration, everything is sexual attraction to them. This is why they can ship literally anyone in any show they watch. And why they think they're turning gay when someone of the same sex does something impressive. And why they think banging someone is just friendship. Maybe they got confused over "friend with benefits".

[@yurishaa.9337]

Indeed. I hope it'll get the pin soon.

[@amanthattellsthetruth9792]

porn fked their mind at this point

[@ftwan5277]

This reminds me of kpop fans. It's so uncomfortable when they ship them cause you can see that what they have is a great friendship that they've worked to in order to have a great teamwork, but it's all about sex to these people. Sorry for my English.

[@MiguelMedV]

@@ftwan5277 I have some friends who are K-Pop fans, maybe it's no coincidence that *some* have been in abusive relationships or they make out with their friends. A kiss doesn't hold meaning anymore, it's just pleasure now 😑. No wonder why people are miserable, no level of intimacy has meaning in their life anymore, they can never feel whole 🤷🏻‍♂️...

[@thomasjohnson6808]

As an aging hippie (68), I watched "free love", or polyamory, commune after commune, back in the day, go up in flames. They rarely lasted more than a few years. There were many reasons for their self-destruction, but from my personal observations, it was mostly about jealousy and interpersonal conflict among the many partners. Someone ALWAYS felt left out or neglected. Then, of course, there was the issue of STDs on top of everything else. Instead of people being care-free, the constant tension and uncertainty ripped such communities apart.

[@tonybaggett1984]

I always love the argument that if you only have sex with one person how will you know if it’s good. A) you’re going to know B) if it’s not then practice there’s plenty of info out there C) what would sex be like with someone you built a bond with beyond the physical? Pretty intense if you ask me.

[@d3m0n54in7]

The problem with non monogamy is that every partner has different needs in a sexual interaction. Those needs are incredibly diverse and may even change between interactions or partners. So you pretty much get the macdonalds version of sex. Fast, easy, cheap and tailored to the lowest common denominator. A healthy monogamous relationship may contain the same basic ingredients but is refined through communication and trust. That turns the beef, bread, tomato and other lesser ingredients for some cheap unhealthy fast solution into a Michelin star worthy experience that satisfies all aspects of the appetite. Who wants to settle for a different burger flipper every time when they can have their own personal Gordon Ramsay. Ultimately the most important ingredient is communication and why should I bother learning what you like if I'm only going to have to deal with you until I'm satisfied and your satisfaction is none of my concern.

[@burgeryoufoundbehindthegrill]

Seriously. If people have chemistry, they have chemistry. You can get a glimpse of what someone is physically like in many ways outside of sex. Kissing, dancing, or just generally playing around. It's not complicated.

[@MrMaxwellTalks]

The term "polyamory" was created in the 90s by a woman who didn't want to keep being viewed by her peers as a s_ut. Same thing for "ethical non-monogamy", which derived from a book called "The Ethical S_ut". If you have to add "ethical" to anything, it's because you know it isn't and you don't want to be judged or anyone to hurt your feelings by calling it out.

[@dachsrottweiler]

Exactly

[@tamsynspackman7090]

The woman who coined the term didn't care about being called a slut, she was part of a spiritual movement and they wanted a name for the way they were living. Her husband helped. Words have power, but their reasons go beyond that. She was actually a very fascinating person, and so is her husband.

[@tjrrind1452]

You forgot the "L" in Slut.

[@coolguy-zm7tn]

Like ethical hacking

[@MrMaxwellTalks]

@@tamsynspackman7090 if she didn't care, she wouldn't have to come up with a term to justify it. I'm sure they're wonderful people, though.

[@MX-qx6kh]

Self-respect is going out of style. Also, this is the first time I've ever been described as "kinky".

[@demonkingbadger6689]

And to think i thought i was the ultimate prude.☺️

[@badrequest5596]

the expression "keep it in the bedroom" is about to change to "keep it in the church" 🤣

[@abbiereynolds8016]

Right. Weren't they the ones calling us "vanilla" not so long ago? Now we're "kinky". Which one is it lol?

[@praetorian3902]

Soon it won't be normal not to own a dungeon anymore.

[@eliascommentonly4652]

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[@banquo3336]

As a moderator of the monogamy subreddit, I've been dealing with vapid this shit for years. Being committed to someone is portrayed as a restriction on freedom, rather than discovering something more meaningful that raw carnality. 'Insecurity' is an affect laden synonym for *not wanting something*, so if you aren't interest in an open relationship you must be insecure according those who want an open relationship. What is troubling is that this argument is also applies to any other sexual act where if you aren't comfortable, they accuse you of being insecure, controlling, or 'brainwashed by the patriarchy' in order to onboard you into whatever act they have designs on. Everything is reduced to jealousy because that makes it easier to hand wave away the positive motivations for monogamy; focus, commitment, depth etc. Attachment is pathologized as a weakness, not because it's an error or some flaw, but becasue it gets in the way of sexual gratification. That's all that is. We are social beings, not islands unto ourselves. The divorce rate argument is nonsense. Being divorced doesn't mean that the number of people involved was the cause of the divorce. Having divergent life goals, substance use, mental health issues, etc have nothing to do with monogamy. Adding more people will not fix those issues, ergo being divorced does not mean sleeping with a bunch of people will make your relationship[p more stable or fulfilling. And funny how "natural" is only what is carnal and animistic. Anything coming from the other 3lbs of grey matter *not* devoted to reproduction is arbitrarily reduced to the realm of "unnatural", while they simultaneously try and navigate the most convoluted romantic lifestyle ever known to humanity. It's reductive and sickening. I could go on..... You're right, Brett, this is all projection and avoidance. The loudest advocated of non-monogamy are those who were burned by someone with the same values they now promote. But what is just as insidious is these damaged people believe that monogamy is malleable, therefor it's okay to lie, coerce, and gaslight a reluctant partner into non-monogamy. this idiotic ideology doesn't spread without people getting burned, and when your partner bombs you with an open relationship demand, and proceeds to tell you that the reason you don't want it is jealousy and if you only subscribe to the non-mono ethos then they wont feel saddened anymore, that is exactly how this propagates. It is, in effect, a misery cult, with lust and gratification being the remedy to the very mindless pursuit of physical pleasure that created the damage in the first place. It's all weasel arguments and semantic slight of hand designed to reduce interactions to things we consume and discard becasue that's all they know. it's predatory and empty. It's cancerous.

[@SunFlower-jr2qh]

Very well put

[@c1s1125]

Excellent insight and assessment, I appreciate you took the time to go back through your post to link concepts. Reads like a page from a published book. Well done putting these ideas together coherently

[@Kainpound]

This was awesome to read, thank you.

[@Marie-Fey40]

A friend told me that she doesn't like group friendships because there's always a group within that group. Someone is bound to feel left out

[@natalieansley2932]

I think monogamy feels like loving someone so deeply that you want living proof of your love for one another through a child. You want to continue that love for years after you’ve passed. It’s beautiful and it’s Godly

[@mippyflippy6706]

I have happily been in a monogamous marriage for 22 years and counting. Sad that people rely on the excitement feeling of non-monogamy and missing out on the many wonderful parts of a monogamous relationship.

[@ninja36inc]

Well said

[@mlokole254]

I've been married for 20 yrs and I don't even have a desire to be touched by some another man. What's wrong with people????

[@iliaselbourji1865]

​@@mlokole254childish attitude for new wave of feminist, for incels and redpill... they just swim in their desperation and try to find "freedom" in material satisfaction... in sex for example...

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

Agreed. It's not easy and it doesn't make you happy every minute most of the time so now it's considered toxic. Oy

[@aPeachWhoLovesYeshua]

Yes but you see people are spiritually depraved, sin is exciting for them.

[@thewrongmissy7653]

If being a Christian, married, monogamous person makes me “kinky” I’ll wear that label🤷🏼‍♀️

[@adrianaamado473]

Fr!! 🫡

[@animebrat76]

I don’t think the Christian part is kinky

[@Kathakathan11]

❤️ these Christian values as an Hindu, have been raised with same values about family, but I can see that left leaning entertainment industry in my country has been trying to demolish family system as well. I can already see the impact on younger generation, the college going ones. Sadly even America is seen as land of sexual freedom, which is great, but also as land of flexible marriages. Divorce and move on, live in for 10 years and separate. No real bond is better. And it’s sad that it is glorified. It is through Internet I found out that most glorious years in American history were when they also celebrated family system. And all that absolute freedom with no responsibility is nothing but recipe for chaos.

[@simonac2016]

Naaah, def dont want to call that kinky just because they now what to make anything Godly ,kinky

[@thewrongmissy7653]

@@Kathakathan11 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@ET74019]

Divorce is so high because people don’t do monogamy anymore 😂

[@elizeviktoria]

Yup

[@ET74019]

@@elizeviktoria sadly

[@liamhalla6803]

Yup. We live in a s*xciety

[@noellesanchez4978]

I thought that very thing!

[@Driftingsiax]

“Rudely described by my therapist as….” Has to be one of the deepest avoidances of accountability I’ve ever heard.

[@steveirwin516]

Eye shadow color/tone matches the top she is wearing.....Very put together! Over 3M subscribers now! Brett's energy is contagious as f**k! Keep it up girl!!

[@mesamom62]

When you add more persons to the relationship it becomes less stable. Just imagine the "divorce" rate in a polyamorous relationship!

[@liamhalla6803]

That is so fricked up

[@screamingopossum7809]

Open relationships have the same issue. Someone always ends up feelings shafted

[@LC_from_MO]

My marriage was ordained and blessed by God! After several decades of marriage, I find it difficult to comprehend how our rock solid marriage with wonderful children is wrong in any way ‼️

[@middleeasternforhire8985]

Children of a dysfunctional family will be more impressionable than a rock solid healthy family because they will lack good role models in life so the government can shove anything into their brain

[@JaketheJust]

Telling the truth and being normal is a revolutionary act

[@GreyWind1988]

Monogamy is amazing. I've honestly never understood the desire to constantly be with different partners. And if you want to explore some different things with your partner, you can

[@morrigankasa570]

Exactly, for example if you happen to be a Bise*ual Man but in a loving Monogamous Relationship with a Woman. You can still experience to an extent the other desires/attraction by discussing it with her & acquiring a "Strap-on". The basic rules in ANY Monogamous Relationship is: Communication, Love, Loyalty, Honesty, and Care!!!!!

[@mayallyourbaconburn]

It’s articles like these that make me soooo happy I’m married with kids, because it sounds like the dating world is a freakin mess right now.

[@Imissnormal]

Amen to that. I will take my boring quiet life, thank you.

[@JhonFKennedy69]

As a younger person, I love your videos, and you explain things in a way where I realize how crazy everyone is. Thank you 💛

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

Listen to tate. He changed my life. He inspired me to improve my physique (pfp) and most importantly made me realise what wemen truly are

[@zillionclick]

​@@Iamachad-qf6qjas a girl, I watch him sometimes lol

[@FuzzyWCTX]

I'm not crazy. I'm DeGenX!

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

@@zillionclick happy you accept that wemen are all 304s

[@noskalborg723]

But she keeps lumping together polygamy and polyamory. Go look up the Edmunds-Tucker Act. This is not ok. Monogamy should be the sicial norm, but i am livid when people conflate what my ancestors did with the lecherous sexual wanderings of polyamorous people.

[@keblee2443]

My god this is LITERALLY one of the main plot points of “brave new world”. Like it couldn’t be more exactly pulled from that book even if they tried.

[@willcresson8776]

They've also taken quite a few notes from Anthony Burgess' The Wanting Seed. "It's Sapiens to be Homo" was a constant slogan promoting same sex relationships as a "cure" for overpopulation, to the point that many fake it to get advances in education and employment.

[@brettlamont4965]

As a kid of the late 1960’s, this sounds a lot like free love. When you live long enough, you can see patterns. Pick a good partner, build a life together, grow old together. Listen to both sides of old people. They can tell you the pros and cons. Funny thing about time, once its gone, it is really gone….

[@kmech3rd]

I hate that the lessons of history are lost. We keep repeating the same base, disgraceful societal mistakes. The tuition at this "school" was already paid, and it was high.

[@SunFlower-jr2qh]

@@kmech3rdWell said.

[@spddiesel]

I heard it elsewhere, but in every "open" relationship is a person that suggested it and a person that is sad.

[@dracocaelestis6370]

i absolutely love being monogamous relationship. it’s love, support, stability, reliability, even inside jokes. the only regret i have is not having met my husband earlier.

[@badrequest5596]

these people: "everyone should be allowed to spread their love with whoever they want and not feel pressured to one person" normal people: "alright, then i'm gonna go spread my love out of this relationship" these people: "NOOO!!! YOU CAN'T!!! YOU HAVE TO FORCE YOURSELF TO BE POLYAMOROUS SO I'M COMFORTABLE AND DON'T FEEL PRESSURED!"

[@lils738]

monogamy is probably the purest form of love

[@bethanystevenson2530]

I never thought being a christian would make me edgy.

[@robertbusek30]

Christianity, when properly practiced, is always counter-cultural. Christ Himself said that the world will hate us.

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

I feel sorry for the men who date you. Your facial structure...

[@cameronpateNC]

Although things are crazy and getting worse, we as Christians have a great opportunity to revive the church and the teachings of Christ! People are lost and looking for common sense. Most people know these things being taught in our culture are horrible. They're just looking for people to clearly tell them certain things are wrong and good and stand firm in that

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

What is up with your facial structure?

[@robertbusek30]

@@cameronpateNCI agree, though I believe (with apologies to Mike Rowe) that the world is going to need to go SPLAT before we see a widespread spiritual renewal.

[@personascratch]

i feel the whole conversation on polygamy is an interesting one. for me i personally have a lot of ancestors who did practice polygamy whether for religion or survival, and while now i don't condone it i can see it happening. but people today seem to just be doing it for there own selfish gains of pleasure and noncommitment. people are so afraid of everything and they have been told and preached that anything traditional is bad. they are so afraid to commit to someone and to truly love them. to care for someone and put them above yourself as they hopefully would you. they are so invested in the immediate gains of sex and pleasure that they cant seem to wait and work for anything better in the long run. and what makes it truly sad is that they don't seem care, or that they care for all the wrong reasons. its all about me and nobody else and it truly breaks my heart.

[@darkma1ice]

Monogamy is literally like having a VIP PASS for a special place that only you and the other person get

[@japtakito8551]

“They aren’t taking it seriously to begin with…” Well said Brett… that is the main problem, it start with our mindset and hearts. People nowadays aren’t taking relationships nor people seriously, no commitment and lack of respect. It’s all about satisfying their selfish desires no matter whom it hurts or what pain they cause.

[@tasdiquekhan9003]

Isn’t it funny how for decades they experimented with different weird kinks, in hopes of finding true happiness, and now they come back to normal monogamy!

[@janethays3408]

I thought polygamy was illegal. Monogamy is putting your partner’s needs ahead of your own.

[@birifumi]

They're not pushing polygamy. Polygamy still bad, monogamy product of patriarchy, 'ethical non-monogamy' is what they pushed for. It's not marrying with multiple people, its about not committing and openly cheat so it doesn't count as cheat. It's something called 'swinging' by people on the bad side of the internet.

[@FusRoDork207]

​@@birifumiPatriarchy this, colonialism that, SHUT UP AND FIND SOME JOY IN YOUR LIFE!!!

[@SepticFuddy]

@@birifumi Monogamy is more a product of matriarchy than patriarchy. Women have a stronger biological drive toward monogamy than men overall, and far more control over access to sex even traditionally. Compare Western tradition to Islamic tradition, and tell me which one is more patriarchal and which one is more monogamous.

[@ÇALAKNÊT]

@@SepticFuddyIslamic Arab tradition*

[@ÇALAKNÊT]

Not all Muslims follow the Arab tradition, in fact polygamy is mostly frowned upon in my culture.

[@ForkThe6]

Monogamy is perfect solution not only for the safety and well-being of the children but mostly for the time when we grow old. No one but the love of your youth can find a way to overlook the wrinkles or the hanging parts that used to fight the gravity. Only someone who shares enough history can have a chance to forget your actual age and always keep seeing you the way you looked on the first date.

[@nicole7884]

Ok, so my very first relationship when I was 19 was with a guy who was into seeing multiple people. I was like ok whatever. To clarify, I never hooked up or dated other people just him. It was fine we had fun together but I never really let him into my friend or family group. When we broke up, I felt nothing. I wasn't relieved. I wasn't angry, just an absolute blankness of emotion. Now I'm married in a monogamous relationship and just the thought of my hubby dying or leaving me feels me with a lot of emotional distress I have emotion vested into this relationship. I know him as a person I care and love him and cannot really remember life pre him.

[@bec7666]

As a 33 yr old woman who has been married for 10 yrs this year and been with my husband for 17 years. I can say that we choose each other every day and are very much in love and very happy. I actually said to him the other day. Are we weird now cause we are straight and married? 😅

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

Oh bec....if your hubby was presented dua lipa, hed leave instantly. Always remember that

[@Crieth_199]

@@Iamachad-qf6qjBelieve it or not, not all men are sex fiends who chase young women

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

@@Crieth_199 No man is passing up dua lipa. No man

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

You're 33. Are you having a laugh?

[@Crieth_199]

@@Iamachad-qf6qj just because you have no self control, doesn’t mean nobody else does

[@John-210]

As soon as Americans vote for a sensible person to run the country the woke madness might end

[@noahboddy1484]

Oh, great. So you basically just said that the woke madness is never going to end. Thanks.

[@MetalMF0508]

Most likely not.

[@quirk8841]

When a sensible person tries to run the media does everything they can to destroy their reputation.

[@John-210]

@noahboddy1484 I'm saying that sadly mainstream media is polluting peoples minds most people are distracted and don't care anymore but if Americans stopped voting for woke politicians this madness would end

[@John-210]

@quirk8841 I've noticed that too

[@danielphilips5748]

Divorce exists because people who claim to be monogamous are often not. It is increasing because people no longer respect monogamy.

[@FatalSensation]

It does get boring.

[@The__Raven]

It's honestly sad and disgusting how many dating profiles I saw when I was single, asking for a third person to marry or hook up with... nobody cares about having a genuine relationship anymore, all people want is a quick hook up

[@StayArtsy]

I call it "fast food" dating

[@updownleftrightasdw8423]

0:11 "Pollyanna wanna cracker

[@kimberleeoneal]

This just reminds me how grateful I am for my husband ❤️ These poor people have given up on love, and now they're deluding themselves into believing that they don't really want it... sad.

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

Atleast you havent let yourself go like the other 90% of wemen after marriage

[@literallyhomeless1043]

Bro these people get so pissed off if you tell them you're monogamous, like it's so unnatural and disgusting they are willing to pay for your conversion therapy, ecstasy

[@helghastslayah1367]

Wait until everyone looks at countries in Africa where polygamy is more common and analyze the amount of violence that occurs. It’s very telling.

[@theirishsaint4324]

Shhhhh can’t be so logical, they don’t like that

[@fullyfb3847]

The crazy thing that these people can't seem to understand is that when you are in a truly stable monogamous relationship, you literally never think about your spouse cheating on you or you cheating on them. That type of thinking is a symptom of toxic relationship people who assume everyone is a cheater like they are. 😅 I'm 13 years deep and every day is a blessing.

[@Tux-rs7rp]

I was once messing around with a married woman… I had no idea until she slipped up and had her phone background unchanged… weirdest feeling I ever had in my life because I have always seen that as an immoral and frankly evil thing to do and yet I’m in the middle of it.

[@SpenReyn]

I told my wife of 30 years she was kinky but she didn't believe me. Now I have proof! Albeit from questionable sources.

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

My gosh. Im guessing shes in her 50s or 60s now. Feel for you

[@rachelhudson1628]

@@Iamachad-qf6qjthat’s when the fun starts 😂 the longer you’re married and committed, the better it gets!

[@Iamachad-qf6qj]

@@rachelhudson1628 Until your wife lets her body go. Then..

[@Crieth_199]

@@Iamachad-qf6qj Then you get your receding hairline and keg belly

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@@Iamachad-qf6qj every body goes eventually

[@karlchristie1856]

It's not about finding that one special person who works with you. It's about finding someone who's "good enough" for whatever standards you hold yourself to, and then MAKING IT WORK. It's hard to do, and these days people over all are less likely to put in the work to make it work. Finding the right person is an overlooked skill, and it makes it easier, but it will still be hard.

[@lakemickie7240]

As a 23 year old. I’m officially (for the nth time) concerned for the generation after us

[@StayArtsy]

I'm concerend about this generation.

[@evilwelshman]

I find it lowkey funny how some people are now claiming that monogamy is a sign of the Patriarchy. Yet, if you look at it, it's countries where polygamy is legal where women most lack rights and equality. At the same time though, I do feel that - whether monogamy or polygamy - what ultimately matters are that the people involved in that relationship are in that dynamic by choice and free from duress / compulsion. This includes the government / state not getting their noses into that particular aspect of people's private life.

[@cristinagonzalez8172]

Thank you for being a thoughtful, honest, and valued being! Keep sharing!!

[@jeramiedutcher6720]

To me, monogamy is deciding to say no to everyone else and you know your lover is doing the same. If ever so lucky, I think trying to grow together is smarter than growing apart. Doesn't matter if I find an amazing woman and have 5 kids with her. If she gets banged by someone else, she is going to then be with him or moving into her mom's basement. Maybe both.

[@tasdiquekhan9003]

😮 It’s almost as if being a normal couple brings true happiness and pleasure. Who would have known!

[@liamhalla6803]

Refrain It's a screwed world, after all. It's a screwed world after all. It's a screwed world after all. It's a very fricked up world. It's a world of sin, it's a world of lust Having $*× is now a must Dirty thoughts are now clean, romance is dead It's a very fricked up world (refrain)

[@kristopherhayes1957]

Should we be surprised that this has happened? People laughed and dismissed these conclusions as slippery slopes yet we were already seeing this when we abandoned the heterosexual and commitment aspect of marriage so it wouldn't really take that long for the monogamous aspect to fall apart as well.

[@TheCharleseye]

I've decided "slippery slope" no longer counts as a logical fallacy. Maybe it was at one time but the Left has proven, repeatedly, that they _will_ just keep pouring oil on the hillside.

[@Kessiegirl18]

married 13 years and couldn't be happier. We even have same phone password and people flip out only for me to say "I'm not insecure" and we openly share everything and have so much trust, we have nothing to hide. People who openly want to sleep around are just gross....🤢

[@skarnak1]

We need many more people like Brett Cooper. It is refreshing to see someone these days who cares about true family values, and just good values in general. It's good to see that LA hasn't corrupted you, Brett.

[@imatryhardlazyperson]

When I thought nothing could get worse, people find a new way everyday ...

[@trudat1498]

Yup. We are living in a planet-sized dumpster fire. Sad truth. Smh 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@vinomsnake]

I swear with how things are going crazy, i remember expressing to my girlfriend, "You wanna hold hands and you want a monoganamonogamous relationship? YOU DIRTY GIRL". She burst out laughing!

[@QueenPrism]

Honestly, I think most people want to be in a healthy relationship with someone that makes them happy and feeling like they're the most important person in the world to the other. People like to deny that and pretend like they would be okay sharing the love of their life with someone, but it almost always ends in devestation. One feels ignored, neglected, loved less, insecure, jealous. Humans are by nature monogamous, but we have stong desires and are often weak willed.

[@natsbookshelf]

In my experience, if someone is in an "open relationship" its usually one sided. In most cases, one wants an open relationship and the other agrees bc they dont want to lose the other one. This was my husband and his ex. He said he agreed but he never slept with anyone else but, she wanted to go wild in college. Thankfully he came to his senses and left.

[@d3m0n54in7]

I can guarantee that if you met him during that open phase, she would have seen you as a threat and closed the relationship up tight. We usually think that men are territorial but it's actually the opposite and women get viscous the moment that their man gets real interest from another woman. It's why we have such bizarre double standards about polyamory. Polycule is fine. Harem is not?

[@joec7217]

I have no idea why I JUST found this channel. I've been watching your videos all day and I absolutely adore you and what you're doing! It's nice to know that somebody in this generation actually has a brain and is actually normal! Keep up the amazing work!

[@Peaceful_Zen_Life]

The more people in a relationship, the more complicated it is. And a problem always will arise. because people get jealous, and people have preferences. Over prioritizing sex has a negative affects on one’s life and those involved.

[@petrastein2531]

I feel betrayed. She didn't jump right into an ad within her original video. She put that part in SEPARATELY. Guys, we are in twilight zone.

[@darthbishop5973]

People who are trashing on monogamy simply have no clue what love is, or it was distorted from past relationships

[@mayeulcarpentier4100]

Honestly, I think the dude lade a fair point in the relationships we see on tv. What is presented to the public is so unreal and perfect that people who get into monogamous relationships can feel disappointed, or betrayed, as they see that real life is more complicated than TV shows

[@xiexie89]

very true that media has "romanticized" love when you see couple who've been together 15+ years who dont act like TV show couples, it seems disappointing after a couple years, but i personally believe that is the beauty of a monogamous relationship - watching each other grow through the good and the ugly even through the "Boring" moments.

[@elinat2414]

If you look at the actual number of people in polyamorous relationships, it's a negligible amount. Most people still opt for monogamy. It's easy to get into a specific part of the internet and think that every second person is in a polyamorous relationship, but in the grand scheme of things, they really aren't that common.

[@michaeltower4474]

I am from Spain recently divorced and I am angry, (mostly with myself) but I don’t even think on blaming monogamy…. People are so alone and so desperate they blame anything I am sorry for them…

[@marcus3457]

The problem Mr. "Ethical Non-Monogamy" is having is not with others being jealous of him, or others policing him in a relationship. He doesn't want anyone else to police him so he can do whatever he wants to. He is aspiring to a situation where someone has no expectations of him so he can basically do whatever he wants, sleep with whomever he wants, foolishly assuming there will be no consequences to this sort of behavior.

[@latrinemarine826]

Doesn’t sound very ethical does it!?

[@0waverunner0]

My brother got roped into this dystopian ideal. She is living it while he is being destroyed...it's horrible to see honestly....

[@RalphieLykin]

Wow, didn't realize that my 15 yr long relationship was a kink & it being impossible to imagine not having my other 1/2 there was such a rebel move... still planning to keep this up tho because I'm happy & no one can prove it isn't the best thing for me. I have a feeling that all these people saying how Monogamy is bad are gonna change their tune the moment they find "the One" if they ever do 'cause that mindset isn't a good start.

[@hansjohnson9209]

This gives off huge "everyone belongs to everyone els" vibes. One of the main plot points in 'Brave New World's anti-utopia is that monogamy, traditionalism, and especially marriage is a huge taboo.

[@Imissnormal]

Yep. Scary times we are living in.

[@quasxen]

one saying I have is "People are like works of art. You enjoy viewing them. Just because you have a work of art at home, doesn't suddenly mean that all other works are ugly and you shouldn't look at them". a solid relationship is founded in trust. you should be able to trust your partner isn't going to be jumping around with others and being inappropriate with them. you lose the trust, you're more than likely going to lose the relationship

[@Woo_Woo_Woman]

I can't imagine looking at other men when I am in a relationship. If my future husband said he liked looking at other women because they're works of art, I'd know he is not the man I will marry.

[@quasxen]

@pax3901 everyone has their own "rules" for relationships. I'd be okay with my gf/wife looking. Acting on it and flirting is where issues start