Moog Model 15 Modular - Monster New iOS App Exclusive

In yet another beautiful studio room at the Funkhaus in Berlin, we saw a preview of the Model 15 - a lovingly emulated Moog System 15 modular modeled on iOS - sounded pretty tasty - Geert Bevin takes us through it

[@colettedoot7517]

Sound Amazing ! ive always loved the Moog sound -. i used to rent the mini moog back in in the late 70’s :)

[@neilbarbu]

Yes finally I can have a Moog modular in my brief

[@lavishdeluna6099]

I love these premium apps, even when they're premium-priced. Something that I love about iOS is that independent developers can create beautiful, usable, great-sounding apps -- many of which with unique design concepts -- and put them out into any price-range. For the big boys like KORG, Moog, etc., it'd be very easy to capitalize on their brand-name and put out simple apps at relatively high prices, but when they actually use their resources to create something that sets them apart from independent projects -- that's really great, I think, and fills an important niche in the mobile software market.

[@johndeggendorf8672]

Lavish Deluna Right on...produce an good, smart, usable product, and people will pay you for it, and everybody's happy.

[@xnonsuchx]

The voice of the interviewer just makes me think about the customer in the Monty Python BOOKSHOP skit.

[@marike1100]

Sounds very good, but I'm looking to get some actual modules to go with my Mother-32. And I'd love to see Nick review the Pittsburgh Lifeforms and Make Noise 0-Coast. But yes, Moog has been on fire lately.

[@sjallthesound1659]

Absolutely brilliant! A masterpiece even.

[@cheepodecheepo5530]

Will it accepted A midi clock from another device? Like can I sync it with my other sequencers?

[@liamdonaldson6449]

Looks awesome! Sounds pretty good too.

[@sonicstate]

+Liam Donaldson Yes have been messing with it today - audio rate stuff is all doable - one of the hardest things I'm told to do in software, impressive work from their team

[@synthanatomy]

+sonicstate The sound quality is the highest available currently on the IOS market ;) During Beta for me, it was mind blowing ;)

[@djpuzzleofficial]

Lovely video mate. I shared it on my iOS music app blog.

[@RoyMaya]

Wow! This is cool. I'm gonna have to give this a try. I would love a VST version of this.

[@CaalamusTube]

+Roy Maya ...in the meantime there's Arturia's Modular V :]

[@RhombusLabs]

Geert, if you're watching, I'd like to see a Linnstrument demo with this.

[@chrislloyd3453]

Beautiful. Congrats

[@JohanSegeborn]

Great demo!

[@CaptainWampum]

Any chance of this being a VST one of these days?

[@mcgo3595]

Thanks for this man! Subscribed! great channel

[@jonlindsey4114]

Sounds great!!! ( doesnt hurt that its going thru that Apogee quartet lol ) So is that an Ipad air 2 or the Ipad pro 9 inch? It looks really responsive, Im on an Ipad air 2, I hope thats what he's using!

[@issiewizzie]

What's the difference between Animoog and my Model 15 as far as sound is concerned

[@VictorSteiner]

Where can I find those tutorials that you are talking about in the video at 14m56s? I only ever find the 2 standard tutorials. No fan created.

[@Christof_Classen]

*Looks like a Synth-App from Freaks for Freaks, "A BIG-THANK YOU FOR THAT", because i am a Super-FREAK and NOW i can learn everywhere I go how Modular-Synths works ;)* *After THIS App i hope i am fit to buy a real Modular-Synth ;)*

[@Jorge.O85]

Take my money !!! 🤩🤩🤩

[@Flohr]

I wonder if a DC coupled audio interface could bring voltage from/to hardware modular gear? That would be very interesting. Something like that new Expert Sleepers interface.

[@TheStudioDrummer]

Great walk through- thanks!

[@ipoponq]

Where is this ipad connected? To a computer? An audio interface? Via what cable are u guys recording it?

[@nutelina]

Wauw this is so cool, I haven't been this excited in a long time! Bravo!

[@PilferMusic]

damn 2 dimensional mini keys! :)

[@Jj-vd6es]

What interface do you use to record the sound to your MacBook? My headphone jack doesn't sound great to MacBook

[@sonicstate]

+J SMOres it was going through an apogee one then into our tascam dr70d

[@this.is.imagine]

I use studiomux iOS app (it's great). You can record audio directly to your DAW and even sync the MIDI clock.

[@Jj-vd6es]

+sonicstate I wish there was a cheaper option 😂 but at the same quality

[@Jj-vd6es]

+Martin Géč wow I'm going to check it out

[@pirateradio808]

the only time I have used studiomux in a semi-serious project the audio had random pops throughout -- I think I'd rather use an Apogee or something....

[@marklevasseur]

Hello ,I cannot find the recorder in Moog 15 Can you help Thanks

[@Softlol]

Someone know a video of this on an ipad mini? I'm not that all for using $40 (in my appstore) for an app that is going to be too small for my ipad.

[@DemonDanFisher]

Hi Fossegrim. I created the entire Psychotropic Synthesis soundpack (and all the audio demos) on an iPad mini 2 using no other hardware: soundcloud.com/demondan-1/sets/moog-model-15-app-psychotropic-stereo-soundpack

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

Does he have just one cable going into the Apogee? Does that stream audio and midi simultaneously?

[@ModernDevotion]

+friendofCHAKA Yes the you can do audio and midi over usb on iOS

[@issiewizzie]

Does it have AU compatibility ?

[@psysword]

There might just be a god.....for my iPad Pro!

[@Blackford3661]

I have it on the Pro....I was startled at how good it sounded. To quote a character from a Clive Barker movie: "And to think I hesitated...."

[@Dogboy73]

This looks pretty incredible. People will say it's pricey for an App. But what a friggin App! The only downside is the inevitable chorus of woes from Android users. Guys, it's time to get an iOS device if your into music Apps. Now is the time. Just look at this thing. And in all likelihood it's probably never coming to Android.

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

Yeah I agree the it's worth even getting a used iPad off eBay or whatever because there is so much for music in the App store. The Korg Gadget and iMS-20 are alone worth it.

[@jondoglegs7124]

+friendofCHAKA ipolysix! (had a real one, so biased lol)

[@johndeggendorf8672]

Dogboy73 That's why I bought an iPad. ..I like it better than my mac.

[@harmannsmith5653]

the time? i witnessed ios music making app growing strong since 2008-2009

[@maidenthe80sla]

That is what I did as I got tired of the limited options of apps for Android. So I bought an iPad 5th Generation for a great price from a M.D. on Craigslist. Now I run iOS, Android & Windows and am pretty happy. Add some iRig hardware and my midi keyboard connects to it as well.

[@ErazedFX]

Just tried the app it sounds good but buzzes from time to time on my ipad mini,hope they fix it soon

[@gbevin]

+ErazedFX if you're using iOS older than 9.3, you can have crackling and pops, please make sure you're running the latest iOS

[@ErazedFX]

+Geert Bevin My fault, updated iOS to 9.3 and then everything runs well. Thanks for telling me that!

[@gbevin]

+ErazedFX Great to hear, have fun! :-)

[@Syncopator]

I understand the desire for a faster CPU, but the fact that this only runs on the bleeding edge devices, and upgrading is not a very user or pocketbook friendly proposition, I probably won't be getting this for quite some time...

[@WhoresOfBabylon]

What about audio latency ?

[@apkaroganesian7137]

Can I make “Chantaje” sounds with that app??

[@pedro.teixeira85]

Did it worth the money?

[@RabbiSteve]

ptakiya it is for me. I'm playing with it now. So deep and rich! And the Suzanne Ciani & Richard Devine expansion packs are sick! The Ciani pack, " Symbiotic Equations" can be had just by connecting to FB ie no money!

[@pedro.teixeira85]

Rabbi Steve yeah because it costs 20 dollars so I don't know if worth spend my money on it

[@lwispe]

Finally a good reason for an iPad Pro? :)

[@xnonsuchx]

Don't even need an iPad Pro for it...works fine on regular iPad Air and iPad mini and on iPhone/iPod Touch.

[@EliahHoliday]

Can anyone confirm this will work on an iPad Air without choking? Really tempted but not sure if my Air can handle it.

[@zobkiw]

+Eliah Holiday They say it runs on an iPod Touch - you're probably safe :-)

[@prestonedmondson8770]

+Eliah Holiday No dropouts on Air 2 alongside Animoog, Korg Module and Audiobus so I'd wager it can.

[@drewhenry784]

Is it dumb to ask how we record the audio into our DAW. ????

[@JonSnowIII]

Hey, mate. Do you still want to know this?

[@TM-ui6wx]

Sounds really leveragey.

[@AdamsBrew78]

Jackie M I’m 3 years in the future, still scratching my head over “leveragey” .. please expand on that? ;)

[@Retrocadia99]

Can the app itself record ?

[@JonSnowIII]

Andrew Vivero Yes

[@JohnH108]

AU version for Logic X please

[@VTOLKits]

Great app...

[@drob281159]

How would you compare it to Arturia's Modular V?

[@NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias]

Yum!

[@Bavinckovic]

Could you imagine Model a 15 vst for the mac or pc

[@paulbanks2573]

arturia modular v! it’s the full-on moog system 55! (commenting 4 years later ;) www.arturia.com/products/analog-classics/modular-v

[@taylorphillips6869]

Is the audio output mono or stereo?

[@manowargoblin]

+Taylor Phillips stereo or mono - via trunk or audiobridge

[@taylorphillips6869]

+tony saunders thanks tony!

[@aceyage]

Once more, instead of innovating on the modular interface they decided it's a good idea to use patch cables.

[@CaalamusTube]

+aceyage A lot of people really like cables. It's a big part of the workflow. Ever notice how the VCS Pin Matrix isn't really a thing anymore... yet cables still are? Besides, this was a deliberate recreation of a specific Instrument... which would've really missed the mark, nostalgia-wise... sans Patch Cables! What would've been your alternate solution?

[@lemonslice2233]

+Caalamus Something "innovative", whatever that is. Seriously what else can you do besides drop down menus which are nowhere near as cool or visual.

[@CaalamusTube]

LemonSlice Reinvent the EMS Battleship idea? Put a pot under every feature... which corresponds to a pushbutton assignment matrix. The pot controls amount... like FXSpansion... but this wouldn't do a Modular like this justice, really :[ I don't know. Although his presentation was confrontational & negative... I actually wasn't mocking him. I was genuinely interested to see if he had any ideas :]

[@lemonslice2233]

Caalamus Well I am too, but I think his silence speaks for itself.

[@aceyage]

+Hanniffy Dinn Thanks for calling me names!

[@L1915SS]

VST version would be awesome...

[@amazeus1980]

MOOG TEAM PC VSTi PLEASE !!!

[@ArguZ72]

Can;t : METAL

[@obezijana]

and apple vst

[@tomparsons553]

Hoping to see an Android version soon!

[@jondoglegs7124]

Lol..

[@ogasi1798]

+jon doglegs double lol

[@stuartmorris1476]

I doubt it'll ever run as smooth as iOS version lol just stick with apple and your guaranteed excellent support/updates. With android its kind of a gamble

[@jondoglegs7124]

+Tom Parsons symbian next!

[@xnonsuchx]

There's a reason a lot of more 'pro' audio apps don't appear on Android...only a few Android devices have the ability to do it w/o severe lag issues. That, and iOS users are generally more willing to pay for apps than Android device users. If they made it for Android and limited it to the most recent versions of Android and had a disclaimer that only half a dozen or so devices handled it well, they'd just end up with a lot of complaints from Android users saying it sucks because it doesn't work well on their device, oblivious to the fact that it's their device's problem.

[@VictorSteiner]

In the video you say that ANYONE could do more tutorial files and that others could use them. Where are they? The app only comes with 2 short tutorials and that's it. Was noone in the whole community interested in providing more? I can't believe that. Am I looking in the wrong places?

[@hanniffydinn6019]

The best thing that ever happened to synths is the iPad.

[@jondoglegs7124]

+Hanniffy Dinn yes

[@ianbcnp]

And the best thing that ever happened to the iPad is synths :-)

[@harmannsmith5653]

more fresh than vsts

[@therealrussellsmyth]

What’s the best way to connect this to my DAW on Mac please ... anyone ? 🙏🙏

[@inuitalian1175]

Russell Smyth Connect your IOS device to your Mac. Then go to Audio MIDI Setup. You can find it in Applications > Utilities on your Mac. Click ‘Enable’ button next to the connected device. Go to your DAW and select the connected device as your Input. Hope that you find this helpful. I use the Moog Model 15 app alot myself when i produce. It’s amazing

[@therealrussellsmyth]

Inuitalian thanks buddy

[@inuitalian1175]

@@therealrussellsmyth no problem

[@neilbarbu]

Someone start making Emerson patches, Marc Doty!,,

[@synovium]

to bad the arpeggiator is not a 16 step

[@pizzamanmep]

You can still use an external sequencer with the Camera connection kit...

[@7saigon5]

Yeah like a Massive Monster From NI .....

[@downhamrex1535]

I think I'll wait until you can choose 'striped' cable colors. Nice try though. I just need those cables to be striped.

[@jondoglegs7124]

+Downham Rex pah, i want mine to be animated like barbers poles from days of yore..

[@colettedoot7517]

Remarquable that is just an app ! yet much much cheaper -.

[@ChristianSamsel]

wow that's beautiful. a shame i switched to Android.

[@hanniffydinn6019]

You can have both you muppet.

[@jondoglegs7124]

+Christian Samsel come back to the light..

[@hanniffydinn6019]

jon doglegs I use everything have everything. Using just one brand is dumb as fucking rocks.

[@jondoglegs7124]

+Hanniffy Dinn if you can afford it..

[@jondoglegs7124]

+Hanniffy Dinn dont underestimate rocks. well, i got windoze and icrap. anDURoid didnt agree with me so much

[@zambination11]

I bought it. It is good ok.. But.. If you close your eyes and just imagine that these sounds are being produced from an $0.99 app instead of an $40 moog like UI, you probably feel that you hear sounds that could be created by any other AppSynth. I don't want to say that all the Apps sound the same, just that a lot of the Apps do not sound so great as they advertise. It is just our brain that lets say "synchronize" visual with the "great moog audio" expectation. Its something like a placebo. So for me the moogs 15 app UI is great and educational for sure, in the other hand the sounds are compressed and flat and i don't think that its worth the price for the sounds only. Bloody marketing.. :)

[@slakk5093]

It's most likely the headphone DAC on the ipad, have you listened through a high-end soundcard like a focusrite interface?

[@zambination11]

I really don't know sorry. I exclusively use an Apogee quartet with the iPads for the last two years, which has the quite exceptional sabre 32 DAC, powering a pair of DT-1770 headphones in most cases.

[@TheOverlordOfProcrastination]

Looks interesting, but I wish he hadn't answered every question with that modern linguistic phenomenon 'So...'

[@malatia7575]

I support Apple in everything, and will always do but I am sad there is the planned obsolescence strategy being used. And maybe ios apps developers are threatened to bind to the planned obsolescence strategy orherwise no app for them.

[@renascence239]

Dunno if planned obsolence or not, but the Moog says it needs 64 bit device to run it because of Metal graphics engine. So, it is sad that this amazing synth doesn't work on older devices (not my problem, but I still feel for people who cannot use it). Now if you want blatant example of planned obsolescence, there is an update for GarageBand with integrated Alchemy. It runs only on iPad Air 2 and newer, and old standalone Alchemy app works like a charm on my iPad Air. Disgraceful move by Apple.

[@DJJOHNNYT1]

This sucks the sound sucks

[@Screaming-Trees]

What's the point of this IOS crap? Any pros out there working on the IOS platform? I work on a mac pro tower and pro tools in a proper studio. I can't think of anything worse around me than phones and pseudo-computer based devices. VST format is tolerable but now we need to accommodate more software formats? This platform doesn't even make sense. It hasn't the potential of a fully blown computer in a sense that it hasn't the processing power so you end up having to compromise on the emulation quality. One selling point for VSTs was the platform. It's powerful and usually cutting edge so some of the downsides can be excused but the IOS can't offer this feature.

[@TheSteveSteele]

rudiger I am. The iPad Pro is very powerful. There are a LOT of great iOS music apps (synths, notation, DAWs, etc..), and the iPad connects digitally to my farm of Mac Pros. The iPad Pro is more powerful than you might think. The A9x CPU is about as powerful as a recent generation i5. One could say it's the music industry that has the best iOS apps. I use Cubasis for my DAW, Notion for notation, AudioBus and a too many synths to mention, but stuff from Moog, Aurturia, Waldorf, Korg, and many more. Plus gestures on iOS based synths allow for completely new music making devices.

[@Screaming-Trees]

It's very tempting I'll admit. The form factor and the touch interface make it very attractive. Especially if one is use to hands on control. Not the same as a knob/slider but pretty good. There are some big downsides though. If not the processing power then it's the whole redundancy thing (how many devices does one keep around). Another problem is, and this one is a killer, asset renewal cycles. Apple would have you buy a new one of these every year. My mac pro has been around for 7 years now and it won't die any time soon. In contrast I've burned through several iphones in the last 3 years. The build quality of most of these Apple devices is still questionable. It would seem that Apple's strategy here is to treat these as disposable units. My Neve 1073s are decades old. My retro STA will go on and on. My mac pro has had a long life already and fingers crossed will carry on. Even my macbook pro has clocked in 4 years now (it's a late 2013 so not quite 4 years I guess but getting on). Are you going to keep replacing these ipads every year? It's a pretty high annual cost. I just think it's a risky platform in a professional setting that's all (for the reasons I've outlined above).

[@harmannsmith5653]

i dont like DAW approach for ios apps. treat them more like standalone synths and drum machines.