Triumph Bonneville T120, TEC Rebel Exhaust

[@grosbeakmc]

Del, once again I am struck by your ability to demonstrate and explain things simply and completely. Good show! I've said it before but I give your channel the most credit for giving me the confidence to tackle jobs I would have once consider out of my reach. Thank you so much for that.

[@Moonfleet41]

You're most welcome John, that's the aim, if we can, just to inspire a little confidence to give it a go, it's just assembly, pure nuts and bolts, and on a job like this with these kind of parts, everything slots straight on and fits first time, so no hurdles to overcome, just the joy of doing your own upgrades!

[@daiman56]

I have to concur with John Rest. I have done jobs on my bandit 1200s that I would have never tried without watching and recording your videos Many Thanks!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Davie, glad they could help you mate, we both appreciate your kind words.

[@limitedignition]

This is probably the best channel explaining how to work on your bike and what to check. I learn something every time. Great work.

[@philmorrow2446]

Cried when you removed the centre stand!! (I'm old fashioned!!)😌. The rest of it... nice!!!

[@Moonfleet41]

I can relate to that, but in reality, once you take away the left hand silencer, it looks a bit daft with the huge foot lever stuck right out..! maybe a more slimline stand like on the big Tiger adventure bikes would work as a replacement.!

[@ashwinoashwin]

@@Moonfleet41 Delboy, doesn't TEC provide a stopper bracket so that it can be used with a centre stand?

[@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui]

Agree Phil, but having just fitted the Tec exhaust the main stand looks horrid hanging out the side! So I’ve removed it, it hangs on the wall and if need it for maintenance work I pop it on, 2 minute job! 👍

[@zacstred452]

I installed the British Customs GP full exhaust today on my T120. This tutorial was a massive help, & w/o it I probably wouldn't have been able to do it on my own. Thank you!

[@Moonfleet41]

Most welcome Zac. Glad it helped you out, i bet that sounds awesome !!

[@rocket3man]

Del, you made the cat removal simpler than other channels, I removed mine on a speed twin and replaced it with an X-pipe (TEC), quite a fiddly exercise as I recall. I fitted the Vance and Hines silencers and what a sound improvement!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank John, it's amazing how much sound is sucked away by the cat itself, and a much better performance too on the Speed Twin aye.

[@coloradokid1346]

Wow Del. Thank you for expanding my knowledge on bikes. Never have seen where the pipes are connected using a tight spring. That is just awesome. Love learning new things on your channel.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks buddy, glad you enjoyed the video!... hope you and family are keeping safe and well there, stay in touch, D&Px

[@MilitantAdventures]

By far the best bike channel on KZbin, hats off Del. Proper talented mechanic, I need to pop by with my Tec exhaust, on order! 👍🏻

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Oli, Thank you so much for those kind words mate, thats very kind of you, im glad the videos are useful and that you enjoy them, thanks for your kind support. Del.

[@andybowie8590]

I've got to that age where the first thing I do when I buy a 2nd hand bike is put a stock exhaust back on it! My son is constantly at me about the how the exhaust on my r1 looks like a lamp post but I like the standard noise and the funny thing was the after market one that was on it was heavier. The other thing is I think (maybe misguided) is that you can go faster with a stock exhaust without attracting any attention, other people think you're going too fast when they hear a loud pipe even if you're not going full pelt. Good 'how to' video though.

[@Moonfleet41]

haha lamp post, post of the day! Ride safe mate.

[@LS-uv9gg]

Beautiful lines on that TEC exhaust. The shape and sweep just look so right! An added plus, is now the lucky owner can eat many more roadside cafe sarnies and still have a lighter bike, hee hee

[@Moonfleet41]

Damn right i recon, love the way the header pipes follow the line of the frame and in a bit closer too, unlike the factory down pipes that stick out too far and a ta different angle... and damn right too, a Full English is now no worries..!

[@hogfest5047]

Del you are sent by the gods ,i have been dreading dismantling the frame and without watching this i would have gone blindly in taking the tank off taking that top bolt completely out giving myself needless grief . thankyou !

[@Moonfleet41]

You're most welcome mate, we make these videos for just this reason, so it's great to know it could help you out.. !

[@hogfest5047]

@@Moonfleet41 I kid you not i bought a new 2022 speed twin sent off to oz for the verex exhaust took the exhaust off but triumph have welded the cat exit pipes on but the exhaust company assure me but doing exactly as you've shown plus maybe removing one bolt from the other side of the rear of the frame it'll wriggle out the tip on the tank and bolt tip are going to save me a lot of grief

[@roberthambly9926]

Wow! That sounds amazing even with the baffle in. Let alone when taken out. Thanks for the schooling once again. Have a great day:)

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Robert, have a great weekend yourself!

[@seanb1081]

Not a job that I will be doing any time in the near future, but at the same time was very impressed how well you explained it all Managed to make, what I thought would be something complex, into a straightforward nuts and bolts job. New exhaust definitely sounds much more "grunteer"! Got yourself a new subscriber here 👍 Thanks Mate!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you Sean, and welcome aboard mate, am glad you enjoyed the video... we have a more recent exhaust fitting video, putting a high level on an early model Scrambler! Take care and have a great weekend.

[@itsmemarkt]

Great video. I have had no interest at all in changing the stock pipes but I think you make just changed my mind. Thanks for taking the time to walk us through the process too. Top man.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Mark, that sounds good, if you take that inspiration just from this video, then check out the following video I made, where I finished the make-over and took the bike for a ride... there's lots of sound bites in that and a real feel of how it is out on the road... so check that out, it may confirm your decision! And if you couple it with a few other upgrades too, certainly the fuel plug you will really notice the difference in your bike.

[@itsmemarkt]

@@Moonfleet41 Another excellent video. One question... this exhaust is a full decat - Do you know if this will effect MOT? Thanks again.

[@Moonfleet41]

@@itsmemarkt No mate, as there are no emission regulations on motorcycles whatsoever, so fir the baffle and your MOT man will be happy.

[@itsmemarkt]

Hi Delboy - I went ahead and ordered the exhaust and followed your vid when installing. I’m 99% there but I’ve run into two issues - 1) my rear brake lever fouls the exhaust 2) My springs seem a lot looser than yours. Did you need to make any adjustments to solve these issues?

[@Moonfleet41]

@@itsmemarkt Hi Mark, firstly congratulations on taking the plunge!... let's sort out those two small issues... your brake lever is close to the exhaust, but it shouldn't foul it, so it may need some adjustment to just shift it a little inwards so it clears... I covered everything in my video, but if it's possible there may be an anomaly with the exhaust, you could contact George at TEC who may have come across that problem and know how to advise you........ but am sure it's just a case of loosening off the headers and getting everything wriggles in to place, remember like I said in the video, it's important to get that link pipe under the engine installed all the way in as far as it can go, otherwise that could be why your right hand pipe is sticking out a little............ as far as the springs go, I had a couple like that, and all you need to do is 'GENTLY' bend the loops that are welded to the pipe away from each other a little to widen the gap... I moved mine maybe 5mm each and the spring was taught.... George covers this in his video as well! Hope that helps, let us know how you get on!

[@fizzyridertoo]

You're a born instructor. No waffle, maximum information and clear directions.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you Ian.

[@MilitantAdventures]

Spot on Del, I followed every step and all is fitted mate. Only issue I had, the exhaust springs were very loose, even checked to make sure all the pipes were in line and full connected. The springs seem too big mate, I might just use lock wire instead. I can do a tidy job that way. 👍🏻

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Oli, i had the same with mine, two of my springs were loose, you can just use some pliers and bend back the loops on the pipe a little at each end of the spring and it'll tighten up..works every time buddy.! Good choice on the exhaust, i hope you like the sound, im running mine with a Thruxton baffle in, nice and loud but not hollow or empty sounding.. TEC have them if you want one.! have fun and ride safe aye.. Del.

[@Boombox113]

Baffle out for sure. It sounds wonderful and the weight saving omg

[@timclapin3488]

thanks Del for your reply.....it just goes to show that exhaust theory is alot more complicated than plumbing ...keep up the good work

[@Moonfleet41]

Exactly mate, there's always more to it, thankfully we don't have to pay for such development, we just get the finished product at a great price.

[@k.sjones9139]

Great video as always Del. The T120 Black looks great. Real contender for my next bike.

[@Frontireadventures]

Man you are the greatest example of quality instruction.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank You!

[@allenhuling598]

Great video, Del, and what an upgrade! Looks quality and sound, all get a major thumbs up!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Allen, great to hear form your Sir, hope you're well over there? I guess as autumn rolls in, the dark months are coming, let's hope we can ride as long as possible. Sure it becomes a winter layup over there once the snow comes? Keep safe and stay in touch, D&Px

[@allenhuling598]

@@Moonfleet41 Yeah, couple nights with frost on roofs already! Fall storms and falling leaves happening now, and going to work in the dark already. Bike lay-up usually happens by the third week in Oct, but you can bet that I'm still working to make up for lost time! Ride safe you two!

[@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes]

Really helpful video, I was wondering about the Lambda sensors! but I didn't need to remove rear footpegs, just jammed a screwdriver into the bolt head, and undo it from the other side, no faffing about with split pins that way :)

[@mikepopelka2349]

I was enthralled with the thoroughness of the explanation! I only wish the centerstand was able to be retained.

[@Moonfleet41]

It certainly is mate, if when you buy your exhaust you let TEC Bike Parts know that you want to retain your centrestand, they will include the free bracket and rubber block for the stand to rest against which fits on the left side of the bike... just make that clear when ordering! Merry Christmas mate.

[@360Vipers]

Nice video Del, kinda like your old Bonnie videos from several years ago. I bought a 2009 Thruxton back then after being inspired by all your mods. I fitted a Tec 2 into 2 shortie system to that bike and wow it sounded great. I did put the baffles back in after 6 months as it was so loud, even with ear plugs in!

[@Moonfleet41]

Ha ha.. they're supposed to be loud mate.. maybe our hearing gets more sensitive as we age rather then slowly going deaf..!

[@sophiedavid-foster9520]

I really enjoy watching you work. Maybe it's the Faro shirt, it looks great on you! XOXO

[@richardphillips1041]

Great to see you back working on a Triumph Del, editing is brilliant as usual, like the sweat shirt I want one!

[@Moonfleet41]

Much appreciated Richard, glad you enjoyed the video... and yes, cool shirt aye, it was gift from a friend!

[@ardcoreluv]

Great video mate! Ive been dreading doing the cat on my Speed Twin! Thanks for the vid

[@Moonfleet41]

No problem 👍

[@pkbh1169]

Excellent video: quality, coherence, production.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you!

[@dew20462]

I'm not sure what's going on between us(my Mrs thinks we're chatting). I purchase my first Harley- a Dyna a little while ago. Within weeks, you too purchased a harley & watching you, gave me the b#lls to do my own servicing etc. 2 months ago, I purchased a brand new T100 black. Which I understand is structurally very simular to the T120. So I'm very much looking forward to following you progress on this bike.

[@Moonfleet41]

Ah ha, so, does that make me Your stalker, or are you My stalker..?.. either way, happy to help buddy, we must be kindred spirits i recon.!

[@paulharast1958]

It looks a lot better with new pipes....Great Job Del 👏 and Penny and You Del Ride Safely and Have A wonderful Week.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Paul, thanks as ever for your kind words, hoping you're keeping safe there during these virus times, stay well and always great to hear from you, D&Px

[@KRColson]

You are a master of your craft Del! Clear precise instructions with all the minushia of understanding just what's to be expected. Does the centre stand HAVE to go with this exhaust system or are you just trying to shed weight?

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you for your kind words im glad you enjoyed the video. I believe, from memory, that this exhaust does foul on the stand on the cross pipe... but if you check the link in the description, it will take you to the TEC website for the pipe and it will make it clear on there..

[@markmasztal2253]

Your videos are so much better than a lot of the rest out there.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate, thats very kind..

[@jonelliott9627]

Great tips n explanation about heat cycling and ecu adjustment. Nice work sir.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Jon, thanks mate, straightforward enough, and oh the wonders of modern technology, when I think back to the 1980's putting a Motad exhaust on a bike meant re-jetting carbs, usually with hit and miss results, and always a long drawn out process, there's much to be said for a modern ECU!

[@jonelliott9627]

@@Moonfleet41 yessir. Modern technology makes the good ole days nostalgic at best. But those days helped me always find a way to fix not just replace my parts n bikes. And yet I kinda still miss 2 stroke street bikes in a masochistic way.🤯🤣

[@Moonfleet41]

@@jonelliott9627 I cannot argue with that mate, I had a GT380 with a Micron 3-into-1, proper banshee... made me the hooligan I am!

[@mattmckee396]

Like it with the baffle, love it without. Looks great. That’s incredible weight reduction in such a simple mod. No center stand needed with a shop like that

[@Moonfleet41]

Couldn't agree more buddy, incredibly transformation aye!

[@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui]

Great vid, helped enormously when I fitted one to my T100. One problem, the brake fouls with the exhaust even without the 12mm spacer! With it fitted can’t use the brake, is it a different brake lever on the T100?

[@Moonfleet41]

Check this directly with 'TEC bike parts' as they have all the specifications and can guide you on any unique fitment issues you may be having..!

[@simongrayson5907]

Great video again. I would have removed Lambda sensors whilst exhaust off. I used a kit bought online by Redline Superbikes. Removes that thumb sized odstruction in the outlet.

[@andydawson2070]

Wow, what a weight saving and what a beautiful exhaust system, music from the machine.

[@Moonfleet41]

Yeah, i think so too Andy, proper hooligan with the baffle out, and a nice finish too.

[@ssamotorsfinland]

Best sound is new exhaust with baffle

[@FREE_PUREBLOOD333]

Agree

[@AbouzarKaboudian]

Nice video Del. I love the sound with the baffle in. It gives me the feeling that the sound without the baffle, although louder, is a bit hollow.

[@Moonfleet41]

You're not wrong Abz' it does have more of a hollow sound, but the full baffle also makes it sound a but 'fluffy... the best sound is to cut the baffle in half, so it's open, but removes the hollow resonance. ! kind or the best of both sounds.!

[@rsbharley4766]

Great job Del, sounds sweet and looks cool with the new pipe. Penny and you have a good week and stay safe mate. Cheers

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi mate, thanks for your kind words, always appreciated... we hope life is ok there with you, this is difficult time for many, so stay safe and keep in touch, all the very best, D&Px

[@domms26]

Your vidoes are excellent as usual. Thanks!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks for watching!

[@richardpearson4248]

Fantastic video bike looked amazing with the standard pipes off stay safe looking forward to next one 🇬🇧👍🏻

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Richard, you are very kind mate, you stay safe too, crazy times aye.

[@richardpearson4248]

@@Moonfleet41 yes mate they are

[@arnybarmy]

Very clear and concise, good instructional Del.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks you most kindly sir, it was a pleasure to fit this system, really easy and nicely made..! have a good week and take care. D&Pxx

[@FREE_PUREBLOOD333]

That weight reduction alone is going to make such a difference to the bikes performance, handling and braking. Looks and sounds so much better.

[@Moonfleet41]

You're dead right my friend, weight reduction is a legitimate performance enhancing attribute!

[@michaelmitchell5909]

Man thats a beautiful exhaust system for that bike Del...makes a great note as well!...i really like triumph motorcycles....

[@alanbuller3371]

Looks awesome! I like the sound of the new exhaust with the baffle in.

[@renzovc]

amazing sound without the baffle !!! another great video.!!! keep it up bro !!

[@rohitshankar9298]

Great video! When can we change the exhaust for a new vehicle. Can I change it right after delivery and not mess up the engine run in? Thank you!

[@Moonfleet41]

The bike in this video was just under 1,000 miles old I believe, so I would always run the bike in, as per manufacturer's advice, take it back for it's mandatory 1st service, then you're good to go.

[@aditya78]

I saw two O2 sensors being disconnected from the stock pipes but with the 2x1 what happens to the redundant O2 sensor? Amazing weight savings with the aftermarket pipes too 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

The original system is also 2-into-1 as both downpipes go straight in to the cat, then separate again in to two silencers, and I put both O2 sensors back in to the two downpipes, one in each!

[@aditya78]

@@Moonfleet41 thanks for the reply. I missed that part, my bad 👍

[@frankt.3891]

Fantastic work, film, bike, exhaust, and the new sound 🔊🔊🔊. Awesome the weight reduction

[@petebird7171]

2 stone weight saving, got to be good, also sounds very nice, good tidy job thanks for posting 👍👍👍👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Pete 👍

[@gillestrombetta3019]

Superbe travail vraiment très professionnel,j’adore comment vous travaillez 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Most welcome, and thank you for your kind words.

[@philboboggins]

Deff baffle out, sounds bloody glorious, just glad we are not neighbours Del lol..

[@Moonfleet41]

Neighbours? Three of them have bikes and they love it!!

[@philboboggins]

@@Moonfleet41 Lucky sod! Im the only biker in the street... caused a few raised eyebrows when i removed the baffles from my GSX1400's Black widow exhaust, purely in the interest of research you understand...must put em back in one day.

[@Moonfleet41]

@@philboboggins Sterling work Sir, if you're annoying the neighbours, then you're keeping the faith and doing something right... most of the time they disapprove because they wish they had such excitement in their lives!

[@stinde666]

Major upgrade, sounds deep and angry 🤘🏻

[@davidgriego8722]

Much much better. Good looking bike.

[@timclapin3488]

sounds alot better....im not convinced about exhaust flow through that T junction when there looks to be space for something of a Y junction.

[@Moonfleet41]

I didn't design it, but speaking to the guy who did, the T-piece provides back pressure and increases low down torque, the fast the flow, the more revs you need, and there was extensive dyno development to create this exhaust, and having ridden it, it seriously works, more low down grunt than normal and a really pleasing torque surge from as a low as 2k revs!

[@bonnytrippler2966]

Great video - thanks Del. Looks a nice after market system from Tec. Welding on the new link pipe looks a bit grim though. All the best.

[@HennieBours]

Great video. Great trick and well explained. 👍👍👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks 👍

[@Ken_Fleming]

Great work as always I'm not saying it will work in this case but where I've completely needed to remove a bolt and the nut would be difficult to relocate I have used a little hot glue just to hold the nut in place provided I could unbolt the last few threads by hand

[@Moonfleet41]

That's a cool trick Ken, and I can see the common sense in that, fortunately Triumph have thought this one through, they know it's a totally inaccessible nut, but they give you just enough room to put a spanner on it and they make it a lock nut, so when you undo it, you can take it right to the end of the bolt and it will stay there... and thanks again for the glue trick, noted for the future!

[@ScrapYardDog64]

Outstanding demo

[@sait33]

Wonderful, Highly appreciate it. 👍🙏

[@gerry9359]

Just watched the Video Del. Great job you and penny stay safe

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Gerry, good to hear from you, thanks for your kind words, we're keeping safe here, hope you are too, stay in touch mate, D&Px

[@myz06rocks]

Some guy that looks like our friend Del worked on a bike. Could not have been him though. Bike was clean and no rusted bolts.

[@Moonfleet41]

Aha, you found me out! It was a breath of fresh air for once not to need the penetrating oil! Hope you're well Sir, take care.

[@tinks43]

(P) Great camera work PP! & Well explained fitting Del, simple stuff for anyone to change 😀 Look forward to more 👍🏻

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks buddy.. good to hear from you, and PP says hi.... we hope you're all well and keeping safe, looks like the madness isn't going away for the moment.. Lets catch up soon aye mate..(That's if we're aloud out lol)

[@DeanSmailes-Peart]

Which way wrong does the copper ring gasket go? reading a few different opinions online and I'm not sure which was is correct.

[@ukcadjockey]

And not a stuck manifold stud in sight. Must have been a joy to simply take the pipes off 😉

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes indeed mate, a pleasure for once not to need the penetrating oil.

[@MikeButler05]

Thoroughly enjoyed that Del, you must be getting really popular as 2 adds during the vid , can i have ya autograph lol

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi buddy, I don't give autographs mate, as I'd have to learnt o write joined up first lol... seriously thanks buddy, I think You Tube are on the march with their ad campaigns as we're all getting lots of mid-roll ads currently and there's not much we can do about it... thanks for your kind words Mike.

[@MikeButler05]

@@Moonfleet41 im happy with the ten min free view \!!!! whoops wrong channel

[@toby5710]

Would it be best to visit a tuner for ECM tweaking after fitting that exhaust? Obviously it's a lot more free flowing?

[@Moonfleet41]

Not at all mate, pointless as there's no tuning available on this particular model, the ECU is locked, however, the exhaust was designed around the parameters of this bike, and it's ECU will re-adjust with a 10min set up run and fuel just fine... it was designed that way. You can add a fuel booster plug, which we will be doing and that gives a little richer mixture on pull away and acceleration... but that's not necessary for it to run safely, that's just an improvement if you want it!

[@toby5710]

@@Moonfleet41 I have heard of the ecu adapting before but it was on a saab. People would pull the fuse to the ecu to reset all the fuel trimming parameters to get a bit more umph for a few hundred miles! It made a huge difference to sound didn't it👍 did you get a chance to test ride it? Bet it sounded super 👌ahhh yeah I've seen a few vids pop up about those power commanders! Have you ever fitted one?

[@stephenricketts2067]

Hey, another great video! I noticed that you removed the CAT but didn't replace it with an "X" pipe. Just the exhaust it? Did you have to buy a programmer to reconfigure the fuel/air mixture? Sounds nice though!!

[@Moonfleet41]

The X pipe is to join the headers before it splits out in to two silencers, this system has one silencer, so it joins together and stays joined together and with these bikes, the ECU will 'learn' the new exhaust, just idle the motor for 10mins at least without touching the throttle and it will re-set itself.

[@stephenricketts2067]

@@Moonfleet41 thanks for that! I am thinking about the x-pipe. Would I need a programmer after the installation?

[@Moonfleet41]

@@stephenricketts2067 No buddy, good news, the Triumph ECU will learn the new exhaust set up just by idling the engine for 10mins, or more, without touching the throttle... it will re-fuel itself accordingly and you're good to go... the TEC Bike Parts X-Pipe is a wonderful piece of kit and you can fit it using this video, because you will need to loosen the left hand frame rail in order to drop your CAT out, but it's a really easy job, the bike will sound better, pull harder and run a little cooler, which is all good... good luck with it, and let us know how you get on!

[@stephenricketts2067]

@@Moonfleet41 hey Del quick question. What kind of torque wrench do you use on the bikes? Thanks!

[@Moonfleet41]

@@stephenricketts2067 This is the one i use mate, huge wide torque range 7Nm to 112Nm.. and really heavy and well made.. (Good value too). www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/torque-wrench-micrometer-style-3-8-quot-sq-drive-7-112nm-5-83lb-ft-calibrated-67886?search=STW1011&description=true

[@pikebobstar2033]

I bet it makes a change to work on a relatively new bike. No corrosion and nothing in danger of snapping or rounding off.

[@Moonfleet41]

It syre does buddy, a real treat not to need the penetrating oil!

[@davidgraciaginesta]

Best job !! thx 4 the video.Great sound !! brutal !! suena de maravilla , sobretodo sin el dbkiller , gracias por tus videos !!👍✌

[@the_anxiousphotographer]

Have you had any issues after installing this system? Local dealer told me it needs a power commander if I do this system. They said it will damage the engine long term if not tuned correctly.

[@Moonfleet41]

None what so ever, watch again at 19:10 for an explanation how to re-tune it, and at 20:54 for a demonstration.. If you're still not sure, speak directly with TEC Bike Parts, this is their system, they designed it to work with the ECU and will confirm these procedures mate !

[@the_anxiousphotographer]

@@Moonfleet41 thank you for the information I've sent an email to TEC to confirm.

[@Moonfleet41]

Ok, just worth mentioning, this bike was a "Euro4" engine, so this information pertains to that... but the Euro5, later engines have a couple of further restrictions.. TEC will also confirm this !

[@the_anxiousphotographer]

Hello, is this a euro 4 or euro 5 model of the cat converter, I know some are welded I just don't know which one? Mine looks as it might be welded and wont come out the same I don't think. Thanks

[@Moonfleet41]

This bike was Euro 4 mate.

[@the_anxiousphotographer]

​@Moonfleet41 do you know if I can get the cat out using your method on the euro 5 model? I know it has those pipe extensions weldex to the cat

[@peteyoung9755]

Excellent video with some great tips. I'd fit one to my Street Twin, if I could figure out how to get the frame rail loose with no centre stand fitted. Can't put it on the side stand, that's attached to the rail. Seems a bit daft to spend 100 quid on one just to use to fit the exhaust and then take it off again. Any ideas?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Pete, totally agree, why would you buy a main stand for one job... but how about this option, it's a set of paddock stand bobbins that slip through the centre of your rear axle, then you can just pop a paddock stand under the rear and get it up nice and safe... if you don't have a paddock stand, then maybe consider it as an investment, it's perfect for chain adjustment and lubrication and even winter storage... www.tecbikeparts.com/product/street-twin-street-cup-street-scrambler-paddock-stand-bobbins-axle-adapter-bobbins-kit/

[@peteyoung9755]

@@Moonfleet41 Thanks, that would work.

[@jeangenest156]

@@Moonfleet41 That was exactly my question. I figured that on my T120, I need to put it on the center stand to complete the removal of the converter, and then back to the side stand after everything is tied up and then proceed with the removal of the center stand... Makes sense?

[@jeangenest156]

Or maybe the solution is to remove the converter from the other side....

[@loddude5706]

That sound is just a bonus for goodness sake, & as you've dropped two stone, you can eat more cake . . . sweet result. (The filming etc. is getting too good on these vids; just remember, the better you get, the more we'll take for granted! : ) x

[@Moonfleet41]

Well there is a fair point there mate.. "Rod for our own back" and all that... but hey, maybe we're just getting more used to it. !

[@VadersDarkside]

Nice that sounds great mate! Gotta love TEC for the build quality to a price point. Any issues with lack of back pressure running these baffles out? I've done a decat on my Bobber with Tridents and they don't recommend losing the baffles as there's only so much the ECU can adjust for (they are very free flowing though). To be honest my ears were bleeding without baffles so I've left them in , though I did cut them down by half. 😉 I love your care and attention to the standard parts as well , if only all mechanics showed as much love. 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi mate, great to hear from you, and yes indeed, it's so important to carefully preserve factory parts, they're all now wrapped in cloth and poly peanuts and tucked away in the loft for posterity, they're practically brand new, so some day, they'll have value to someone! With the baffle, I'm going half and half, running a Thruxton baffle, which is like the I showed, except cut down to 1" long and a little bigger bore, you can buy them from TEC and they recommend them too, as like you say, it gives that optimum back pressure, but still nice and open and comfortably louder, not bellowing and hollow!

[@heliguyheliguy]

Sounds awesome but I can't tell if it's louder or quieter? any chance of measuring the decibel difference?

[@Moonfleet41]

Yeah, i have a DB meter.. but far too much echo in my place, scrambles the reading, ill have to do it outdoors for best effect, so maybe once its finished..!

[@paulwenzl1711]

That was good! So no re-tuning computer for cat removal? It just learned all by itself after the 10 min run tume??

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes mate, the changes made by the exhaust are within the scope of the map's flexibility.

[@Mr.AAProfessor]

Any recommendations for a 22 T120 with welds on the xpipe?

[@Matt-ob3sn]

How to make a perfect bike perfecter 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 brilliant del as always

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Hatthew, "Perfecter" ! im going to use that word at least three times this week... awesome.! thanks buddy.

[@mitko_wtf]

How do you know that the ECU will do a good enough job with the fuelling Del? Are you not concerned about the bike running lean? I've been told that a remap/tune is always needed when a full system is installed, especially a decat one, just wondering

[@Moonfleet41]

Nope, it's fine, because the system was designed around the ECU, not the other way round... effectively developed within the parameters of the ECU's range and if it ran lean, you'd see if straight away as the top corner of the header pipes would turn blue & purple, and as you saw, they simply went slightly yellow straw colour so that's nice and cool. Also, the removal of the cat cools down the entire system and prevents the significant heat soak from having a red hot cat right underneath your sump.

[@mitko_wtf]

@@Moonfleet41 That makes a lot of sense, thank you for the answer!

[@Moonfleet41]

@@mitko_wtf Most welcome buddy, thanks for your support.

[@banditnev]

Much nicer look with the Rebel Exhaust.

[@martindavies8326]

Looks great, baffle out sounds the best, I’d keep the Centre stand though.⚙️🔩🔧👍

[@RHP9898]

Fantastic video, congrats.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you very much!

[@martincarey8620]

Hi Del. Definitely a transformation, and an amazing diet! And another cracking video from yourself and Penny P! A few quick questions, if you don't mind educating the dumb... 1. Does it not need exhaust sealant / silicone on the joints? 2. Will it pass an MOT with the cat removed? 3. Will the engine management light come on with no cat fitted? Thanks, and all the best!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Martin, good to hear from you buddy.. hope life is good and you're keeping safe and well. OK, No exhaust sealant needed, the slip joint design, if you look close, has all the pipes fitting "Male into Female" as it goes backwards.. so the "male" pipe in any joint is always closest to the engine, and therefore hotter...so will expand more inside the 'Female" pipe and seal.. they're snug fitting in the first place too with a long overlap... so no, they don't leak once warmed up.. With the Cat, there is currently no emissions test for bikes so no bother with MOT.. and no, the engine warning light won't come up, just fire it up and idle the engine for at least 10 minutes to let the system reset itself.. take care buddy and keep in touch. D&Pxx

[@martincarey8620]

Hi Del and Penny! Thanks for your reply, as always!! All good here thanks, finally getting some much needed fun time on the bike!! Hope you're both keeping really well !! Makes perfect sense with the exhaust fitment, and great consistency of sizing and design too! Obviously well made! Thanks for the other info too... I'm sure it won't be much longer before the laws change on that front, but all the more reason to take advantage of it while we can eh! :-) You too my dear friends, hopefully catch up soon!

[@stevie5141]

Love it👍🏻 sounds awesome and must handle better to being that it’s a lot lighter. 👍🏻

[@Moonfleet41]

I reckon so!

[@patrickcollingwood4613]

That’s made a nice job of the bike looks more lighter and it sounds just nice. That’s some weight lose o man I’d say it will feel so different when riding nice job 👍🏻

[@Moonfleet41]

Sure thing buddy, that is an astonishing amount of weight to shed just be changing an exhaust!

[@andyhunter2324]

I have to say Del I prefer the baffle in and could do with it being a black exhaust ;-) ; is it just me or did that end can weld (at 17:27) look like a child had done it?

[@shunkjr]

I too noticed the welds 😬

[@Moonfleet41]

It would be pretty cool to ceracote the system, or you can alternatively mirror polish it, it is top quality stainless. They are supplied in a brush satin finish, which is great because that keeps the cost down and you can choose if you want to spend the extra money for a ceramic coating or polishing.

[@andyhunter2324]

@@Moonfleet41 polishing? what's that? I've gone for understated now I'm older. You mean keep the costs down to pay for proper welding, not monkey welds, how did they look to you Del? They look pretty shocking to me/us!

[@Moonfleet41]

@@andyhunter2324 Ha ha, sounds a bit like that welding snobbery i spoke of last week... TBH mate, ive seen worse welds on a lot of well known and popular race cans, and take a squint at the Factory welds on the Cat heat shield at 10:00 ! and there are half a dozen more welds on the bike that you would find 'scathe worthy' im sure..! it is what it is mate.. a full two into one system for £289 !!!!!!

[@andyhunter2324]

@@Moonfleet41 not a bad price, and I'm not a weld snob (I bought a welder, two actually after watching your videos), I like to have a go at new skills, just done up my Sporty - no welding, just callipers and master cylinders rebuilds and other bits and bobs, keep up the great content - it inspires more than you think.

[@jeffreysteele2709]

Great video. I'm late to the game but can we get a long term review of the pipes? I am curious how the hold up to normal wear and tear.

[@EdgeDynamicsEnglishRazors]

Excellent video. I think the episodes where you talk more make for a more engaging watch..If i may say so.. I would have loved to see you spray those pipes black.. For years i have been spraying my hornet pipes black and would have liked to see it done rite, if it actually can be done rite.. Cheers.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi again buddy, i did a series some years ago, (about 2013), on painting the pipes of the Triumph Scrambler black, and also more recently on the Dyna Harley Wide Glide project, i painted the whole exhaust system black.. so plenty in the playlists to help you if you need it..

[@EdgeDynamicsEnglishRazors]

@@Moonfleet41 Oh thanks,i'll take a look..

[@nsoul8469]

Sounds and looks much better.

[@nickbishop6784]

Nice improvement Del Pitty about the loss of the side stand though

[@Moonfleet41]

I presume you mean centre stand Nick, but you don't have to remove it at all, that's just a choice to capitalise on the weight saving, it's perfectly ok to run the main stand if you wish, in fact, TEC will provide free of charge a striker plate in the kit to act as a stop for the stand, which you'll need having removed the left pipe which it used to strike against... it will look a little odd with the big stand hook sticking out in the absence of the pipe, but it still functions perfectly normally!

[@bearbloomfield2437]

I'm a no baffle boy 😂😂😂 louder the better 😁 Nice one del and penny 🤘

[@Moonfleet41]

I have to admit to being the same brother.. make it loud and proud..!

[@thomas1699]

Why are the headers joined in a "T" configuration and not a "Y" configuration? Great videos.

[@Moonfleet41]

I see you've been firing this question in a few times, perhaps direct it at the manufacturers / supplier, "TEC Bike Parts".. their link is in the description..!

[@thomas1699]

@@Moonfleet41 thanks very much. Will do just that.

[@tonymartin3780]

Nice Bonny Del . a lot of dead weight removed there mate cracking result Tec exhaust looks well nice 😊looking at some tec for the interceptor . Just fitted the levers and the quality it very nice indeed 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes, what a lot of weight indeed, definitely going to make a difference in the swervery, and check out TEC's Stinger exhausts for your bike, you know you want one!

[@mark7218]

Del that pipe looks lovely nice job mate.

[@KhalScott24]

Does the cat need to be installed for MOT to pass emissions test?

[@Moonfleet41]

There is currently no emissions test for motorcycles on the MOT !

[@KhalScott24]

@@Moonfleet41 oh sh*t. I didn't know that 🤣 thanks

[@darrenrace7121]

Love that bike, absolutely stunning. i would love one

[@alanpaterson5395]

Looks and sounds so much better. Does Penny still have her Bonnie

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes Alan, she certainly does, it's her pride and joy, 7yrs ownership now!

[@robertlumsden942]

such an iconic bike. love the 2 into 1. hey and thanks for converting weight to pounds for us yanks lol. i have no clue on metric. im an old guy so not going to be something i will learn. good job.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Robert, most welcome Sir, I do the conversion for me too, because being born in the 60's we were imperial for the first 10yrs of my life and it sticks, as you probably know we both have both systems here, we drive in mph, cars are still sold in miles per gallon, yet we buy litres, so we get used to converting! But I think wherever you're from, nobody can deny that 28lbs is a lot of weight, like a medium size dog, 2 stone!

[@robertlumsden942]

@@Moonfleet41 great info. wow did not know that about England. very interesting. and yes that is a bunch of weight especially on a bike. so probably 6% reduction in weight. HP to weight is improved for sure. thanks for taking the time out to talk to me. take care man.

[@alessiocangemi6916]

I do the contrary, tnx to put kg, litre... For us not english people.

[@robertlumsden942]

@@alessiocangemi6916 our country tried way back in the 70's but it just never caught on. we learned it in school somewhat but just never became our standard. in engineering like with NASA they do use metric.

[@nicklambourne9476]

Great Vid Del, keep them coming