Hugely respect Dave having someone on who is against something Dave advocates heavily for (speed work, bands) and not only listening to him but putting out his perspective as a seperate vid. I feel like most people wouldn't do that.
@LArkela Жыл бұрын
I noticed the same thing. Kudos to Dave for doing so. I’d say it speaks volumes what kind guy Dave seems to be.
@portastsic Жыл бұрын
Dave behaves like a man. Men can control their emotions and their tongue.
@tas1424 Жыл бұрын
Where is the separate video?? Can't find it.
@finestjellybeansrawlol9486 Жыл бұрын
@@tas1424 this is the seperate video mate
@kyle8583 Жыл бұрын
Dave isn’t dogmatic much respect Dave
@AP-qu2li Жыл бұрын
You can tell for Jimmy his schedule and his lifting notebook are very important, and I think that's a big part of why he trains the way he does. Especially if you don't have your own gym and can't just set your chains how you want or always use exactly the same bands, consistency gets very difficult. How long was the chain leader? What link was clipped to the leader? These things make a big difference in where the weight actually lifts off the ground. An even bigger difference if you're trying to be the all time world record holder I really don't want to write "315 bench with 18 link lead chain, 65 lb chain clipped in the middle" in my book, which is why I work out in my garage.
@Rico_Santana Жыл бұрын
Honestly just do what works for you but don’t be afraid to try what’s worked in the past or what others have done. It might work it might not. That’s what makes the fitness journey enjoyable. Anything can work. You don’t have to hate anything just see the value in it & get a deep understanding of whatever it is. Not everything will work for everyone but don’t disregard it for someone else b/c you don’t like it. Always keep an open mind about everything as a trainer, athlete, or just the average person going to the gym to better themselves.
@user-uy2dp1dh4h Жыл бұрын
Preach brother preach, you said it right.
@DavenportBarbell Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t like bands….. lifts in a giant band shirt….😂😂😂
@portastsic Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I’m glad someone pointed this out lol
@johnschutte71 Жыл бұрын
🎤 drop above ya'll, 👏 👏 👏
@Jdl223 Жыл бұрын
Hes talking about sport specificity the bands are different than straight weight, that applies geared or raw
@BluegillGreg Жыл бұрын
I've measured band strength by mounting them on the rack just above my lockout height, and hanging weight on the bands until the weight pulls the band downward a distance equal to how much the bar pushes the band upward. Whatever weight moves the band this distance is the amount of "weight" the band is adding at lockout.
@jameslima9768 Жыл бұрын
Luggage scale works great for measuring tension
@javiersoriano2453 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy Kolb is an unlimited equipped lifter that won’t benefit from accommodating resistance as much as raw or lighter gear lifters. He doesn’t need to train velocity or speed due to the type of help he gets from the gear.
@user-bv4nd8lp8m3 ай бұрын
Yep lol
@ReaperPowerlifting3 ай бұрын
He also benches in single ply as well, and has the SP bench records at 110, 140 and 140+
@tommendham7686 Жыл бұрын
Nothing in fitness is cookie cutter, what works for some may not work for others, which is why it’s so great
@jessewrigley5664 Жыл бұрын
This man is always talking about straight weight, but when do we use gay weight?
@gmontenegro97114 ай бұрын
lol.
@theaspiecoach5934 Жыл бұрын
Is this dude benching 3.5x what I am? Yep. So why would I argue? His way works. I lift with bands and chains twice a week because if I don’t I feel so beat up from straight weight I can’t rough house with my 4 year old boy. Neither answer is wrong imho…
@paulbaker9434 Жыл бұрын
He's right if your competing with straight weights you have to train to that,but it's also good to mix it up or it will get really boring
@c4videos481 Жыл бұрын
Respect to Jimmy on his thoughts on bands...I agree about the straight weight training I think people might use bands too much but that dose not mean there's not a place for it Fred Hartfield CAT compensatory acceleration they did a study on division 1 football players the group that did CAT almost doubled there power on bench press
@drip369 Жыл бұрын
I mean a lot of people use bands to get over sticking points or weaknesses, even plateaus, or even as a good way to reprogram power and speed but so can taking some weight off the bar and practicing that movement in a more explosive manner, with as much tension as possible.
@UpstateGardening Жыл бұрын
I believe high affordance athletes forget that they are high affordance athletes. Ronnie Coleman was always going to be huge, Usain Bolt was always going to be fast, Randy Moss was always going to be in the NFL. Due to the heighten nature of their performance, an efficiency has to occur that can almost be viewed as reductionist.
@JeanKlaud93 Жыл бұрын
You mind putting that in english for us back of the classroom kids? 😅
@UpstateGardening Жыл бұрын
@@JeanKlaud93 Randy Moss only has to do a few things to get better because he’s a genetic freak. Julian Edelman has to do many things because he’s not.
@JeanKlaud93 Жыл бұрын
@@UpstateGardening ok I'm not that slow, thought it was something To this affect!
@DimaShinder Жыл бұрын
But that means they have far more wiggle room to do stupid shit, so if certain things doesn't work well for them, it means those things would work even worse for the average Joe, no?
@dradeel Жыл бұрын
It's a good point. By asking the very best, you might not get the correct answer, because the best are naturally also the most genetically gifted and that might allow them the liberty of not having to figure out how to do things the right way. For them the most important variables are simply habit and hard work. These are very important for all, but they aren't technicalities of training methodology. It would ironically be better to ask the ones that have struggled really hard to make any progress, because their genetics suck so much they had to figure out what objectively works the best for human physiology in order to overcome their short comings.
@Bombsuitsandkilts Жыл бұрын
For reverse bands you can hang weight and see what the band is lifting at any one point usually want to check the low/weak point
@spencermackay9020 Жыл бұрын
What about reverse chains.
@SrstanrodАй бұрын
lol true
@danjohnson2914 Жыл бұрын
Bands took my bench from 440 to 545 in roughly 3 months. I will always value bands, but similar to this gentleman, leading up to a meet I use purely straight weight.
@willydeezle Жыл бұрын
How is that even possible😂
@jackryant7189 Жыл бұрын
@@willydeezle it's not
@jackryant7189 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-pb5pt I don't even think a cycle could do that in 3 months
@scatdaddy23 Жыл бұрын
@@jackryant7189 if he hung the bands from the ceiling...
@scatdaddy23 Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-pb5pt nothing is giving you 105lbs in 90days.
@Njderig Жыл бұрын
He’s right about incline and dips doing nothing for my flat bench. However different grip widths and dumbbells are what really works for me.
@jonatanolsen37 Жыл бұрын
It depends on what your weakness is. If you have weak shoulders ( failing in midrange) incline and ohp will work. If you have weak tricep, close grip will work, etc.
@nicholas_thegreat5940 Жыл бұрын
This guy's an equipped lifter so dips and incline probably don't help out cuz it's not specific enough, but for raw lifters those movements 100% affect ur bench. Dips especially.
@arjundeshmukh5283 Жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with dips though? Aren’t they good for hypertrophy at least??
@NicholasRachuna Жыл бұрын
Bands suck because you blast through the band resistance with the inertia of the weight and then all of a sudden you have a ton of extra tension on the locked out joints. Its beats you up for nothing.
@KirbySTompy Жыл бұрын
Title has me intrigued.
@CankleCankle Жыл бұрын
It is directed at other geared lifters. If your goals are outside of max lifting in gear, then take what he says with a grain of salt.
@LarsTheSailorMan Жыл бұрын
You don’t have to like bands and chains and speed work but you can’t overlook the force velocity curve. If sport specificity were that simple, baseball players would be swinging weighted bats as their strength training.
@Joe-wt6eh Жыл бұрын
They probably do
@championchuck777 Жыл бұрын
Band work has helped me with speed towards my 1R Maxes..to each its own tho.
@portastsic Жыл бұрын
As an outsider I have just one question. Was his equipment a new technology or the same kind of shirts they’ve been using for a while?
@MauricevdHaak Жыл бұрын
I had the same experience with the deload time, nice to hear a different opnion on it.
@jdiritto701 Жыл бұрын
A 20$ fish scale off amazon lets you easily figure out the band tension at top and bottom (it may not be 100% perfect...but what is?)
@Jake_maguire1990 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't a Slingshot accommodate the resistance curve?
@drinkinouttacups2665 Жыл бұрын
Tried not running conjugate and tore my pecker off!
@whyask8065 Жыл бұрын
I understand what he's saying but I think bands are very useful. I still need to buy some elitefts mini bands. Also there been plenty of people like Matt winning who's got good use out of bands. Depends on the person I guess. Bands for shoulder mobility or warming up are great too.
@JamesJBGray11 ай бұрын
but isn't a bench shirt basically a shirt made of bands?
@razman95x Жыл бұрын
Am I gonna take the advice of a 1 of 1 athlete who only trains himself or the guy trains thousands and isn’t a genetic anomaly? I think the answer is quite clear. A word of warning to all lifters - if a guy is seemingly a freak, don’t take his advice. They’re the exception, not the rule.
@user-ij5ny6uc9f2 ай бұрын
Bands in my Benches always hurt my elbows,
@hardcorejab Жыл бұрын
Most over rated movements? All equipped lifting is over rated.
@user-bv4nd8lp8m3 ай бұрын
I don’t think he went about using speed work properly if it beat him up that bad lol you don’t have to use like 60% if it’s to much use 40 and strict form I just can’t see how acomadating resistance couldn’t work it makes sense on all playing fields
@unohoncho7727 Жыл бұрын
Title should be 'Most over-rated exercises that do not work for me personally' - KZbin is full of best/worst exercises, even AthleanX does it - What doesn't work for one person works fine for another - I can't do DB or Military shoulder presses because of a rotator cuff issue but I can do Arnold presses, same goes for incline bench, wrecks my shoulder so I have to do a seated incline machine press instead - All exercises are good unless done with bad form that could lead to injury - infinitely better than sitting in a chair getting fat and growing cheese on your c0ck
@Freshprankstv1 Жыл бұрын
The blob
@scatdaddy23 Жыл бұрын
😭
@snorlaxcom Жыл бұрын
Dave was triggered 😂
@JeromeONeill Жыл бұрын
I like inclines dips and overhead work but then again I’m not elite
@richardcerritelli9657 Жыл бұрын
I agree bands suck I never got anything out of them but beat up joints and pain.
@elim5353 Жыл бұрын
Can't argue with him he moves massive weights. I just personally love using bands. But I'm not benching 1300 either
@joeschmo2693 Жыл бұрын
No one benches 1300.
@elim5353 Жыл бұрын
@Joe Schmo highest equipped bench press is 1350 I believe. Done by him. Just because it was not raw, it's still a bench press. 2 totally different sports. Anyone who can hold 1300 lb in their hands let alone lower it under control is a strong mother fucker
@joeschmo2693 Жыл бұрын
@@elim5353 Yeah. Probably a 600 lb plus bencher. That's pretty strong. No one can bench 1300 lbs.
@fuckmyego Жыл бұрын
@@joeschmo2693 he benched 1320lbs (equipped obviously, not raw) in competition. Heaviest equipped powerlift in competition ever. Personally i think 600 raw is preferable but i can't do either!
@jeremywilson6148 Жыл бұрын
@@joeschmo2693 he did
@ILovedThe90s1 Жыл бұрын
Burpees- and you can easily get hurt doing them!
@MJHFTBN Жыл бұрын
Interesting POV.
@heveyweightheveyweight5399 Жыл бұрын
Chains an bands have there place i use them every other week with as much weight as possible on the bar i shoot for an all out effort set of 6-8 reps . I dont use chains at certain points i use them from top of the bar to the floor . Works like magic when i go back to bar an weights alone . Speed out the hole is insane . To this day i have never found anything to get me faster out the hole . . I dont believe in training with light weights an then bands or chains added i believe the you have to make those sets hard just dont fuck your self up . But thats me . People find diffrent shit that works for them all the time .anything done properly can work for people as long as your not stupid an over do it . Hell i even put chains on the standing military press to . And the muscles got extremely sore the standing press chain couldve been stupid though . But damn if shooting for a top set of 6-8 with chains from top of bar to the floor wasnt magic . Just rotated every other week with them . Now my dumb ass is following somone elses templetes to see if theres progression . If i dont get a big pay off in 18 weeks ima go back to doing it my way
@taliashoma8834 Жыл бұрын
Have to disagree on chains. Building that lockout is important. That’s like saying bench blocks are useless
@rung19159 ай бұрын
Scott Mendy said the exact same thing as kolb
@gmontenegro97114 ай бұрын
Dood… weighted dips are 🔥
@NicholasRachuna Жыл бұрын
Yes. Bench, Dead and squats
@monstars987 Жыл бұрын
Don’t sleep on dips
@Brian-zg9ff Жыл бұрын
Perfect example of how the most genetically blessed athletes don’t always know the most about training. What this guy does would work for almost no one.
@stoempert Жыл бұрын
He could even know a lot about training but found out what works best for HIM. That's what they are talking about here.
@frankratliff123 Жыл бұрын
Another large aspect to it is the fact that he does equipped lifting. There's no way he's going relatively as heavy as often as he does equipped.
@shawn4387 Жыл бұрын
Oh god yeah if I lifted as intense as this guy I would die lol
@sadhucat4476 Жыл бұрын
Want to know the force on a band? Use a fish scale. Solved
@taliashoma8834 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t like bands because the speed up the weight , but benches in bench suit 🤦♂️🤦♂️