Pinlock inserts and condensation in motorcycle helmets

We recorded this review on probably the warmest day of the year so far. There’s absolutely no chance of a helmet fogging up in weather like this, so talking about anti-fogging, Pinlock inserts and so on seems totally inappropriate. But such considerations have never caused Chris not to do something that he wants to do, and so here we are talking about condensation and fogging. In this video, Chris explains how and why visors mist up. He talks us through various ways to mitigate the situation, and explains the factors that can make it worse. But, in truth, this video is as much about Pinlock as it is about anything else. We learn how a Pinlock works, and indeed the reason he’s got his lab coat on is that he gets to conduct a couple of scientific experiments. Well, he thinks they’re scientific! He goes on to show how to fit a Pinlock, what to look for, and importantly how to adjust the insert when it works itself loose. Fogging is a pain. You cannot necessarily totally eradicate it, and if you experience it you have to normally accept that it’s a natural phenomenon, and not a fault with the helmet. There will be people out there who will learn nothing from this video; the subject matter, after all, is not rocket science. But, by the same token, we know there are lots of bikers out there have no idea what that little packet rattling around the helmet box is for. Well, whether you know a lot or a little, we suspect most people will at learn at least something new from this video. We hope so.
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[@mikeleago1]

The accent, the lab coat, and the pipe make this legit 😂 I just installed my first pinlock 👍

[@lc6920]

I love that Motolegends is going more into social media and educating riders. I've had all great experiences ordering from you to San Francisco in the U.S. Keep up the great work!

[@royolavolsen8744]

I’ve been riding bikes for the most of the last three decades, using helmets without and with Pinlock. Still learned a lot from this video, thanks Motolegends and Chis.

[@mac243877]

5 people have not listened or understood, great demo and I learned a lot many thanks

[@muhammadaliaslam3706]

i love the detail you go into to educating people who seek to know a little more about why we do what we do - thank you

[@Grim_Beard]

"Occasionally, you're going to have to experience some faff." Can't argue with that! I can also confirm, as a year-round rider, that Pinlocks are brilliantly effective. There's not even really any need to take them out for the summer, as they're optically very clear and the bead sits outside your main field of view.

[@michal_z]

same here! and even in the summer you can get chilly mornings. Pinlock is such a great solution.

[@danielec3269]

But if you take it off, you will reduce the risk of damagind it, and you will extend its life.

[@Grim_Beard]

@@danielec3269 Err... if you take it off, you _increase_ the risk of damaging it. You might scratch it when you remove it, store it, and/or re-fit it. It's not likely to get damaged while it is in place inside your visor. Just fit it and forget it :-)

[@aintnodisco7127]

Awesome video! Never too old, or of experience, to learn something new. Thanks!

[@DanielGonzalez-jg5bx]

I’m a new rider and purchased an Arai helmet with a pinlock insert. Thank you for providing such a detailed and informative explanation on this subject. Answered all my questions. Keep up the great content!

[@davemitchell8756]

Thanks for this - very informative for riders new to helmets with visors👍

[@Moxyator]

Excellent video and very helpful. I thought drying out the pinlock would be a couple of hours so that’s something new I learnt. Thanks again.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Brilliant nuance and detail. Absolutely true and relevant.

[@nicholasthegreat4899]

Awsome lesson ! Thank you very much for sharing this information with us !

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Thanks for this. I just got my first Pinlock Shoei and this answered all my questions and then some.

[@MWS1960]

Awesome video and very informative 👍

[@The_Arby]

Another well explained video :-) Nice one Motolegends :-)

[@rahuldhankani7011]

Nice video. Well made, informative and the style is on point ! Riding in tropical climates, I can attest to the effectiveness of a pinlock 120 - the visor stays fog free - usually there's mud from the road covering up the other side, but that's besides the point. :) the part where you insert the pinlock - that may deceive people into thinking they don't need to exert some effort into 'flattening' the visor to get it in :) Also 'ALL' Shoei helmets do NOT come with that useful little adjustment tool - only the neotec comes with it and for others it's sold separately - don't want to get into a bind when selling the next NXR and a customer asks for that tool you said comes with ALL Shoeis !

[@bobcarter5548]

Hi Chis. I have a Shoei flip and the pin lock works great. Biggest problem is fogging of the glasses. Oh and just one point. The pins are ecconcentric not excentric. One is an offset and the other is probably you. 😀😀👍. Keep up the good work all. Great informative vids.

[@Hulktanker]

Excellent video.

[@alexitosonixx8737]

Great recommendation I usually experiencing condensation very early in the morning and Usually I ride from May to October so the condensation is very temporary early in the morning few hours later I do not think I need to use the Pin-lock shield as you said using the pin-lock may reduce the vision quality during warm session so I got my pin-locks insert lens ready to install but I will check if I really really need them thank you !!

[@zerodegreec]

Great video except for the comment about windchill. The windchill temperature is based on evaporation of moisture or the wetbulb temperature. On a helmet visor you only experience sensible temperature and the drybulb temperature is what the visor will be at.

[@Rbj4525]

Very helpful. Thank you

[@fr4413]

I have a Pinlock, but don't know which number it is. Came in the box with the helmet (Caberg Duke II) Dealer fitted it for me. Interesting video, cheers.

[@digger8180]

One question, did the late Ronnie Corbett school your good self in presentational skills ? You are bloody right with Schuberth and the dreaded C4 visor insert. It was like Pinlock in reverse. Great advice on pushing the pins out, top tip. Thank you.

[@aikifreak482]

Perfect, but what about glasses inside helmet? A pair of small pinlocks? 😀

[@hudsonrilke]

top vid. My issue is spectacles. Fog up so quickly all the time.

[@michaelkolkes5573]

Hallo Chris 👋🏻 erstmal fast alles super erklärt. Ich habe aber ein Problem damit wenn du sagst, beim reinigen des pinlock Visieres darüber reiben. Davon kann ich nur abraten, bitte nicht tun. Jede Art von Reibung selbst mit Mikrofaser Tüchern gibt sofort Kratzer. Da ich wie bekannt ein jeden Tag Fahrer bin und natürlich auch den Helm und das Visier oft reinige, hat sich nur eine Möglichkeit herausgestellt, es kratzerfrei zu machen. Also Visier ausbauen mit Gummi Handschuhen, - die vom Doktor die dünnen - um jede mögliche Art von Fett an den Fingern, vom Visier fern zu halten. Dann pinlock entfernen. Visier und pinlock nacheinander unter warmen Wasser mit etwas Spülmittel abwaschen. Die ganze Zeit Handschuhe tragen. Dann mit einen sehr guten microfaser Tuch das eigentliche Visier trocken machen. Das pinlock auf 6 Doppel gelegte zewa Tücher legen !!!! Und dann wieder 6 doppelt gelegte zewa Tücher darüber legen. Das ganze einfach mit der Hand etwas andrücken so das das zewa OHR REIBUNG !!!!!!!!!!!!! Das pinlock trocknet. 30 min warten dann mit Handschuhen zusammen bauen. Fertig. Klappt immer und absolut ohne Kratzer. !!!! Was ich nur nicht verstehe ist. Das einige helm herstellenr 100 regeln haben wann ein pinlock nicht eingesetzt werden sollte. Aber du hast recht mit Schubert, die Nummer mit den Schubert eigenen System ist voll in die Hose gegangen 🤪🤪🤪🤪 aber das kennt Mann ja von Schubert. Ich sag nur Passform und ständig wechselnde Bezeichnung für den gleichen Helm. Es gibt Gründe warum Original BMW Helme keine Schubert Helme mehr sind. 🤥🤥🤥🤥 ach eins noch !! Pinlock 120 ist nicht das höchste, es gibt jetzt auch eine xt Serie die noch mehr kann. !!!! In diesem Sinne alles gute und beste Grüße 🍀🍀👍👍

[@billberm]

Thank you for the info I appreciate it

[@ampm9771]

Thank you for the informative video. There is no question that pinlock is the way to go ATM. What would you suggest for condensation on glasses? I have pinlock but my glasses gets fogged up in less than a second. BTW I really like your style of review, brutally honest and right right to the point. TIA

[@rahuldhankani7011]

You can get an antifog spray for your glasses or rub toothpaste/bi-carb on the lenses - will need to repeat that every so often - unless you get anti-fog treated lenses which are pretty over priced if you ask me. I rarely ride with glasses but when I do I've found the toothpaste rub works pretty well.

[@H1mkk]

Another great video thanks (And I still have some Bob Heaths spray....probably 25 yrs old, but still works ok)...its Pinlock all the way now though :-)

[@danieljarnot9655]

Apply shave gel on the inside of the visor to reduce misting.

[@said206samourai]

thanks you make my day 😀

[@victorimmature]

that fogged up real quick , was Graham holding a picture of a Vincent black shadow with a naked wo/man astride it behind the camera ? LOL, Great vid

[@NatesEscape]

"I'm going to breath normally" Starts breathing heavily

[@Timjacks01]

Good advice, been worried about this wear glasses.

[@richardthomson203]

I have used pinlock previously, sadly after only a year or two they fail and you get fogging in between visor and pinlock. Best solution I ever had was over 25 years, BMW System 2 helmet with heated visor, brilliant piece of kit, plugged into the accessory socket. Passed the German TÜV but not the BSI, so they banned it in Britain !

[@RuggedRefinement]

Any useful thoughts on fogging up for glasses? I have an anti fog shield, but it's useless if my glasses fog up.

[@ianesslemont5876]

Any suggestions for those that wear specs.?

[@riderramblings]

Washing up liquid rubbed on the inside of the visor and allowed to thoroughly dry. That worked well and still does for most temperatures.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Using pinlock in the humidity of Florida pretty much requires a new one every season, for the reasons mentioned.

[@felixVanDiemen]

Thank you very helpful and very informative! In fact so much so that I can forgive you for not lighting your pipe ;-)😅

[@PhantomMark]

I have been riding 35yrs and the pinlock is the best thing I ever had in a helmet, now I just have to battle with the sun visor fogging grrrrrr

[@bikersquest]

I found using an antifog mask works really well in winter where my pinlock 70 was starting to saturate from the bottom up with vents opened. The 120 copes much better however

[@pkpropertysolutionsltd701]

Double glazing for the visor

[@bennet1765]

Shaving foam inside and wiped of with tissue and done way less mist

[@AttorneyThatRides]

Not only cold but raining on hot days with super humidity will fuck up your ride

[@cpuuk]

moist.... mmmm. Only time the pinlock failed me was a very long day riding in rain, in which the water eventually got between the pinlock and the visor and blurred everything.

[@sissydianneswan]

Well done

[@johnsmith5726]

I have a Pinlock Evo insert that came with my GT Air that I've not fitted yet, it says on the Pinlock packet "WARNING daytime use only never use Pinlock at night or in low visibility". In the UK low visibility and nighttime accounts for about 80% of the year so is a Pinlock insert only for warm sunny weather?

[@cycle47hall20]

Clean the outside with lemon Pledge, then clean inside with Pledge too, voila, no condensation, I use it all the time.

[@RJHMotorbikeTraining]

Wouldn’t wear a helmet without a pin lock

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Is that how you breathe normally? Deep mouth exhalations, as if you're having phone sex 😆

[@Chiefrower]

Even worse situation if you wear glasses!!!

[@sn00pgreen]

A new visor and a new pinlock for my AGV how much?? silly money

[@felixVanDiemen]

You forgot to light your pipe 😂

[@riaandewinnaar5040]

Fogging off man.

[@jasonkelsey3441]

Light up that poor pipe my man ;) ( as I smoke a pipe watching your video) ;)

[@marcpilon9189]

nice review but you really need to improve your vocabulary/science principles because you really were confused

[@Paul-ri5vr]

Avoid ghostbikes shop shitty products imported from China and Pakistan ie the shox agrius and Black's range drops to bits after a week poor quality poor customer service and avoid the cockroach cafe ripp off tiny portions top end price, the place needs shutting down

[@sturg1s1]

This is a joke video right?