Guess We're Doin Thermite Drones Now

Sorry for the delay on getting this one out. I decided to go live in a cave for a few days.
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[@jayman4569]

Moral of the story; military tactics and strategy are going through an existential crisis because of little flying death machines

[@CitizenSnips69]

History repeats itself. This is our goofy weapons ghetto rigged to bi-planes era

[@sethheristal9561]

Strategy and tactics? they are absolutely fine. Ethics and humanitatian law on the other hand...

[@oompalumpus699]

RTS players figured out this strat a long time ago. It's called a "Zerg Rush" or "Zerging." Something small, fast, and nimble deployed in massive numbers but are also not a heavy economic loss when destroyed on the battlefield. All we need is a centralized intelligence that can autonomously direct and guide the swarm on what kind of objectives to pursue and in which order to pursue these objectives.

[@neo2190]

@@oompalumpus699”All we need is fucking Skynet” U a little nuts man?

[@PaxTemplar]

@@oompalumpus699 ROFL, I think you'll find the military have been using a variation of this tactic for quite some time. seen it done myself. i served in the British military for 22 years ;)

[@jaimelubrani4435]

my freshman year engineering project was making a quad copter. Didn't realize my training for the military industrial complex started that soon.

[@prfwrx2497]

You got that bass ackwards, bucko. Everything, every shenanigans that's half useful, will get repurposed for military industry. Especially if you're fighting a war of national survival like the Brits in the 40s or Ukraine today. So yeah, do learn weird shit. It might just save your life and way of life.

[@lc3853]

Compartmentalization eliminates guilt. Drone salesmen are collecting the whole kill chain into one box.

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

As an Engineer, your training for the MI complex started as soon as you decided to be an engineer. Everything we make gets weaponized eventually.

[@motomike3475]

You never thought of the other possible uses for a drone copter?

[@danielescobar7618]

It started when your mom bought you video games and your dad left and the gov gave your mom extra money to not remarry.

[@davidgreenwood6029]

The drone with ghetto ak is exactly what I thought was going to happen once cheap drones were ubiquitous, but the thermite drone was not on my bingo card. Holy crap that thing is just spewing thermite.

[@macmcleod1188]

You posted exactly what I was thinking too.

[@RumoredAtmos]

It was on mine for naval combat. But not dropping it like that.

[@elmaxidelsur]

You can put way more dangerous things than thermite... Imagine irritant chemicals or just... Flees.

[@artemiscrimson]

It’s the opposite for me, I figured that thermite and flammable nonsense would be the logical progression because guns are unwieldy why stick gun to delicate flying nonsense

[@davidgreenwood6029]

@@artemiscrimson Attaching a gun or grenade are both pretty low hanging fruit tho, a small fpv drone spraying thermite is a lot more engineering. I don't think I could figure it out.

[@oompalumpus699]

Man-made horrors WITHIN our comprehension? LET'S GO!

[@АскольдМакарук]

yeah it's definitely worse than napalm and indiscriminate artillery fire

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

@@АскольдМакарук "Man the mosquitos are really buzzing toda-" Oops, you have suddenly exploded.

[@hainleysimpson1507]

I find the horrors within our comprehension more terrifying.

[@theleva7]

​@@MachineMan-mj4gj Worse is that video of your spleen flying through the air with heavy phonk in the background had been a viral sensation, yet your relatives get neither royalties from it, nor compensation from the state.

[@scienceisthewaytogo8645]

@@hainleysimpson1507 You know, I once read someone saying something similar when they were describing the Xeelee Sequence.

[@2Potates]

Seems like the response of military AI developers boils down to "We hope things won't end badly"

[@nnnik3595]

I think this has devolved into a "We know things will end badly - let's hope we are not on the wrong end of this."

[@nickyevdokymov5526]

As one of these devs I watch Battlestar Galactica and pray for the best, because baby we are going in hard, fast and blind

[@someweeb3650]

@@nickyevdokymov5526 Can you make a secret backdoor just for yourself to use, tell no one, keep it subtle.

[@karal_the_crazy]

Just so everyone is aware my bet is on either the men of iron rebellion or ultron

[@kyneticist]

The industry is so driven by incredible amounts of money that very few of them give a thought even to the potential for anything bad to happen. Even AI safety experts are winding back their positions - not because anything is becoming more safe, but because there is no money in safety and so much in pursuit of new and more powerful features or even just current implementations from companies paying vast sums to keep up with their peers. There's also a sizeable dose of "bad things only happen to other people".

[@c.andrew3944]

The Marines having a Campaign of Learning is a joke that writes itself.

[@chadwells7562]

Marines eat their learning one color at a time!

[@reggienotorious6824]

Laugh all you want the attack plan drawn in crayon will work unexpectedly well

[@peterruiz6117]

​@@reggienotorious6824 A man who eats crayons can ruck all day....To get more crayons...To ruck, more crayons...Ruck... Crayons... ....I DON'T KNOW 😅

[@xIQ188x]

I think it’s kinda cute how easy it was to trick the marines into thinking we’re being endearing when we call them stupid

[@ExtantPerson]

@@xIQ188xYou’re not? I’m being endearing.

[@randallrobertson7190]

The true terror will come when Justin's mustache becomes self-aware and tries to conquer Asia.

[@Justin_Taylor]

It’s gonna start in Turkmenistan and then go from there

[@playyourturntodieatvgperson]

@@Justin_Taylor hmm. a good choice.

[@randallrobertson7190]

@Justin_Taylor He'll need resources straight away. Once his AO is secured, I suggest he attack North to the beard-balm oil fields of lower Kyrgyzstan. I wish him luck and would like to be the first to welcome our well coiffed and properly moisturized overlord.

[@yourmotherlover-ii8ko]

​@@Justin_TaylorBro dropped into Turkmenistan like it's Fortnite 💀

[@comfortablynumb9342]

​@@Justin_TaylorI'm going to recommend going around Afghanistan 😉

[@Byrin_Boi]

billions must fly drones, war has fallen...

[@motomike3475]

Just think, AI Skynet with drones. Alas poor homo sapients.

[@iansun42]

It's just like a biblical swarm of locusts, not with added C4 and the ability to tell 1000 artillery crews your exact GPS coordinates

[@hhhhhhhhh1071]

Is this what The Bible meant

[@Fryingpan-s8j]

@@hhhhhhhhh1071maybe

[@TheNikoNik]

Biblically accurate locusts

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Just so you all know when it's 2029 and we're all fighting in the Battle of Beijing when a drone spots us I'm gonna drop that "now all of China knows we are here" quote from Mulan.

[@bandolierboy1908]

@@hhhhhhhhh1071no

[@macleanhawley1742]

gime me drone you give me drone you give me drone

[@lkfh1]

Hahahahaha was looking for this comment

[@vedmaburuxova68]

Thermite doesn't stick to kids, at least

[@boringnoninterestingname65]

But fpvs do neeeeooooooww 💥.

[@pragmaticplatypus]

I had forgotten about the running cadence you're referencing. Thanks for that nostalgia.

[@danielescobar7618]

We're working on it.

[@peterruiz6117]

I believe it simply burns through and out...uughh

[@paganofthenorth448]

@@danielescobar7618That’s my tax dollars hard at work!

[@JesPulido]

So, Black Mirror was really a documentary. What a time to be alive

[@aquireeverything9382]

Fiction is reality leaking the script ahead of time

[@vavra222]

@@aquireeverything9382 damn, im gonna steal that, thats a cool line

[@IstyManame]

​@@aquireeverything9382fuck, including furry porn fiction?

[@gareonconley1956]

At this point, yes. The other episode with that depressed social media girl too. I mean fiction has to make sense to be entertaining, reality just happens

[@danielescobar7618]

I know, I'm obsessed with getting my best friend to make out with me

[@JeffBilkins]

Interesting video, not as much thermite drone as the title "Guess We're Doin Thermite Drones Now" would suggest.

[@playyourturntodieatvgperson]

yeah. i wish it had a diffrent title.

[@crusader.survivor]

I'm already freaked over the sound of wasps! Drones sound like monster-sized wasps!

[@indenominavel]

Am also freaked out by wasps and bebês and consodering the whey their wings work they are literaly micro death drones

[@davidgreenwood6029]

Look up tarantula hawks. They aren't hawks at all, they are the world's largest wasp species that prey on tarantulas to lay their eggs inside of. Their stinger is the size of the entire body of smaller wasp species.

[@crusader.survivor]

@@davidgreenwood6029 I just did. Imagine pitting a fight between the Tarantula hawk wasp vs. Asian giant hornet. Place your bets!

[@moritamikamikara3879]

The hornet would utterly r*pe the tarantula hawk. I mean sure the hawk has a mean stinger but it has like no jaw. Have you fucking seen the Japanese hornets jaws? It'll chomp that fucking thing in two!

[@motomike3475]

Only at low altitude. That's why the loitering camera drone shots are done at over 100' high.

[@dutchsailor6620]

The point that nobody mentions is that these weapons are basically within reach of everybody with a little technical knowledge and a 3d printer, state or private entity. No going back from here, the genie is already out of the bottle.

[@toddberkely6791]

a powerful state government wont have a real problem controlling that tbh. it will increase the power of "unaccountable" non state actors.

[@jonjohnson5499]

I can't wait for real life Manhacks😍😍

[@bravojr]

Iiii have a crowbar!

[@saleplains]

the right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world

[@Mae_Dastardly]

HAAAAAAAX

[@alicebrown6215]

Like the little firefly drone designed to fly through a window and explode? Just put a little mower blade underneath it and set it to "blend" mode

[@Benzinilinguine]

Gordon?! Aaa-

[@MrQuantumInc]

For some people the accountability gap might be the whole point.

[@Justin_Taylor]

That was the real theme of the video.

[@alganhar1]

Well there is a cheery thought. I'll go back now to teaching Dolphins how to build nuclear pumped lasers!

[@IIAOPSW]

It's ok. We hired a big 4 accounting firm to do an internal audit.

[@Steel-l4w]

It's not a war crime if it's the first time

[@neglectfulsausage7689]

thats what she said

[@armorhide406]

Who's an edgy boy? Who's an edgy boy?

[@fqertexirte3054]

​@@armorhide406American government in 1945

[@wizce04]

we are DONE for

[@playyourturntodieatvgperson]

nah. war is horrific. the ways in which it is horrific are changing, but thats always been the case. find me a "nice" war. its horrific when someone beats another human to death whith their bare hands. its horrific when a multi million dollar system kills someone.

[@indraww]

Heh.. drone for

[@randomwarehouse4702]

-a beached whale observing a rapidly approaching tactical ballistic RFK Jr (1994, colorized)

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

The High-Powered Antenna in my backyard, blasting Purple Haze onto the Command/Control channel:

[@canoshit]

congrats ur the first comment !!!!

[@hoilst265]

Americans: high-tech composites made via the most advanced manufacturing processes available. Australians: Angry Pizza Box. This is not a joke.

[@BFB_tg]

And the one that claimed a plane too already!

[@itt2055]

Anything Americans can do Australians can do better and cheaper. We don't have any choice, Australia is the 6th largest country in the world but only has a population of around 27 million and over two-thirds of us live on the eastern coast. I live in South Australia and we only have a population of around 2.5 million and over 2 million live in Adelaide.

[@hoilst265]

@@itt2055 Ken oath.

[@justsmallstuff4994]

Yeah khant fellow Aussie here

[@guestimator121]

@@BFB_tg It did not. Only Russian ZALA/Lancet drones and a few Gerans claimed Ukrainian airplanes, with Gerans/Shaheeds having Air2Air kill vs 2 mig 29s and one F-16 (yes, a pilot would sneakup behind a Geran destroy it, but then the debrees would end the fighter jet).

[@kenandbarbie-b6c]

One interesting low cost drone designed by a western power that has a decent track record is the Australian designed fixed wing cardboard drone. The cardboard is treated to be water resistant, is lightweight, low cost, easy to assemble in the field, & has more range than the typical quadcopter type drones. The aircraft is inexpensive so more can be spent on the guidance system & munitions.

[@MrEarlSwift]

yeah, I think the inventor actually made the prototype on a bet to see if he could make a drone out of a pizza box.

[@Warfoki]

Also, because it's cardboard and not a metal alloy, it's apparently next to impossible to detect it on radar. Downside is that they are super light and more or less inoperable even in relatively modest winds.

[@kenandbarbie-b6c]

@@WarfokiSort of like a powered glider?

[@Warfoki]

@@kenandbarbie-b6c Basically, yeah.

[@kenandbarbie-b6c]

@@WarfokiThis would be an interesting project for engineering college competition. Years ago they had challenges like egg drop survival or front loader laundry balancing algorithms. Shaping a cardboard aircraft to be a powered glider that is more tolerant to crosswinds would be an interesting challenge. The operation of the engine could be interrupted to save fuel & increase loiter time while gliding. There may be some defense companies willing to sponsor this.

[@Anatoli-y]

Fun fact: old sovet hand antitank granades (ркг3), that was forgotten on military depots, and was ineffective due to throwing aspect even by soviet doctrine, now became a very serious weapon against modern tanks, thanks to drones.

[@caav56]

RKG-1600 modernization had the old parachute removed and replaced with fixed fins, exactly to allow for more precise drops from drones

[@harrytlynx5715]

The part where you wonder how the AI/drones will recognize that the enemy is surrendering reminded me of that scene in Robocop when the guy gets turned into Swiss cheese by that prototype (btw I found your channel recently and I think its great!)

[@MrDj232]

It won't work until we have generalized AI, at which point the ethics of constructing a human level intelligence for the sole purpose of killing humans is going to be a bigger issue.

[@RillianGrant]

​@@MrDj232I don't think it's that hard of a problem. I think GPT 4 would be most of the way there if you could fit it into a drone.

[@green5260]

​@@RillianGranthow the fuck is that supposed to work

[@RillianGrant]

@@green5260 it supports images. Am I missing something that is really hard here?

[@GodsFavDrunkDriver]

@@RillianGrant yes, the common sense of over-relying on tech being a problem of it's own...

[@Hammer1987]

The real horror will begin once they start rolling out the autonomous drones. For example: The sniper drone: Technically not a drone since it is stationary. Placed in a location with a good field of fire. Has sensors to measure wind, detect heat signatures, cameras with image recognition that can spot even a small part of the human body or any piece of military kit from over a kilometer away. When enemies enter its murder zone it will evaluate the targets, sort them according to priority, and generate a firing solution that lets it kill most, if not all, of the enemies in a rapid fire volley of precision shots. Once things get spicy it will switch to engage any movement or heat signature in its murder zone, so anyone who pops their head up to look for it will already have a round with their name on it sent by the time they have started looking. The landmine hunter killer drone: Either hand placed or launched from artillery this drone shoots several thin tripwires out in a wide area around itself. When triggered this small drone equipped with a ten round gun and explosive device will take of like an angry hornet, fly around shooting anything human like that moves, and when out of bullets it will find anything that looks like a nice target and crash into it before exploding. Imagine have to do foot patrols through a forest littered with these things. I could probably think up more nightmare machines, but I don't want to feel responsible when someone inevitably makes one of the damn things.

[@The88Cheat]

I want more nightmares, please.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

Sniper drone was already a thing in Afghanistan, and it was not stationary. Granted, a Reaper is way bigger than these cheap quad copters.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Usually a sniper has to reposition quickly after taking a shot or two to avoid getting sniped himself. It would make more sense to have a sniper gun on a flying drone - or maybe it lands on a roof for taking a shot and then just flies over to the next?

[@dwaneanderson8039]

Your sniper drone has already been in service for years. South Korea has had "sentry guns" along the DMZ for more than a decade called the SGR-A1.

[@MisterZimbabwe]

Eh, dangerous for certain, but both of those have major weaknesses that are too easy exploit to make them worth much. The electronics need to be shielded so a drone with a magnet can't zip up to them and just scramble the sensitive electronics. Or just some dude with a magnet who wanders in from the blind spot in the case of the sniper. They are both also stationary, which means you can just carpet bomb the area and knock them out. If they rely on heat sigs and shape recognition you can just bring a bunch of road flares and spoof their thermal sensors, and shine high lumen count lights at them to blind the object recognition cameras.

[@MoonMoon-gu2ge]

whats wild is there are dudes building more capable drones in their garage or basement than some of these militaries are fielding.

[@theap0killyp1k2]

Imagine having molten metal poured on your head, that's basically what these thermite drones are doing.

[@johnelectric933]

Wow. I remember reading a Retired General's warning about this exact problem over 50 years ago. It has been pretty obvious that this is the inevitable direction technology has been going, even before we had the ability to do it. And fifty years later no one has figured out the ethics of the whole thing. What I secretly love is how these $500 hobby drones are proving effective against these billion dollar weapon systems, leaving the contractors to explain what we got for our money. If the MIC didn't own so much of the government, they'd have some real explaining to do before they got another dime.

[@munanchoinc]

"We doing Black Ops 2 now"

[@Darmo3]

Black Ops 2 Remake💀💀💀

[@spartanalex9006]

Prequel to the Forever Winter.

[@snimon5824]

Corpse Tank would be around next year I guess.

[@MaticTheProto]

Yippie

[@emptymannull]

We are literally training SkYNET

[@abnegazher]

except Marines are controlling the terminators. Scary concept.

[@CW11721]

As long as we don’t give AI the possibility to seize the means of production, we’re fine.

[@Somerled_Pox]

@@CW11721 at this rate they'll make the means themselves

[@burnttoaster6313]

People know and don’t care about it. The people running the show just care that their pockets are fat and they have a place in power when the AI overlord takes control. It’s funny that people don’t believe that the creator exists yet these same people are willing to create one

[@fqertexirte3054]

​@@CW11721i doubt ai gonna give them in hads of the people sadly

[@ods7579]

being ground infantry already sucks so much. my big question is that when drones start becoming more and more prevalent will they eventually make ground infantry obsolete/more of a sucicide mission than it already can be at times? At what point does it become more costly to equip an soldier with a gun and send them running into a swarm of drones than it is to strap an explosive or rifle to a drone with ir and a rifle/grenade. Will war completely have the human element removed until one or both sides run out of drones? like when two technologically-able world powers fight eachother, will the drone on drone warfare act as a buffer before actual humans have to fight? surely it will just delay the start of the war. Like imagine if you will in the future, turning in your tv to check on the war, 20 years ago you would already be fighting at this time, but right now the drone front is taking the brunt it the aggression, your side has just gained 20% more airspace and is slowly pushing forwards, you grimace realizing that when the enemy gets pushed back far enough to allow for foot-soldiers to be effective, you realize that the soldiers will have to deal with the still massive amounts of defensive reserve drones. Like fighting against a meatgrinder both ways. wait for your drones to clear a small portion of land before advancing, even then there is always the possibility you get domed or exploded from farther than you can hope to possibly return-fire, you may be able to take out one or two with a interference/net gun or shotgun, but there always seems to be another drone to take its place.

[@badideagenerator2315]

They'd probably still be fielded alongside drones, it's what happened when the machine gun was invented.

[@toddberkely6791]

no. infantry will just have to change, like it has with every single previous new weapon.

[@AriesRebirth]

It doesn't matter how many aircraft you have, to take land you have to stand on it eventually.

[@WelsHomEx]

I think best case scenario (in the short term) is basically turning warfare into a very expensive irl drone strategy game, providing civilian targets aren’t neutralized. Then again, an entire world of people who only see killing through screens will abstain from targeting operators for how long?

[@nathansmith3608]

Speaking of new types of warfare, has anyone noticed that the cybertruck is basically already a ground based kamikaze drone with a 1 ton incendiary warhead built in from the factory? With full drive by wire & rudimentary FSD, all it would take is a single software update to unlock! Can you imagine if they were popular in Lebanon - we might've already seen this in action

[@becauseforeverended8861]

Didn't Elon just remotely shut off a warlords kill dozer cybertruck

[@myyyyyymyyyyy9087]

Given the Ukraine war and the modification of seemingly innocuous devices to inflict damage, this type of speculation is important. What is the "likelihood" a bad actor would do this? It becomes a part of the cyber warfare problem.

[@sidewayssil5348]

​@@becauseforeverended8861yup he did exactly that, then said warlord cried on twitter or something, 2024 is a fever dream

[@lc3853]

Similarly, all the planes on 9/11 were fly-by-wire 737's with an autopilot written in C. Then, in a couple of months, the US had fleets of autonomous Boeing drones over Afghanistan.

[@nathansmith3608]

@@lc3853 my understanding is the autopilot & flight computer are properly air-gapped, not capable of receiving online updates, so even if that were true it would've been a different attack that required hands-on modification. Also they were 767's not the smaller 737.

[@Vyelikan]

They made black ops 2 hunter killer drones a real thing

[@FireIGuess]

Black ops 2 is just becoming real. Global tensions are rising Technology in the game is starting to be feasible 2025 is only a few months away We might get a woman president for 2025, black ops 2 had a woman president when it takes place (2025)

[@theholypeanut8193]

@@FireIGuess I wanted to have a remaster of Black Ops 2 but not in this way.

[@TheLegitAlpha]

@@FireIGuess we still don’t have a Raul Menendez type of figure (yet).

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

Or eggman drones

[@DogeickBateman]

@@TheLegitAlpha Punished Prigozhin when?

[@BirnieMac1]

What a time to be an engineer

[@GutkowskiMarek]

Personally I think autonomous drones are about as ethical as a anti-personnel mine. A to whom it may concern sort of deal. There is a big difference between the two, one you have to touch for it to maim you, the other will look for you to maim you. But if you don't prosecute people for putting mines in the ground if a kid steps on it, I don't see how you prosecute a guy for pressing the ON button on a drone. Also I think "autonomous" is a buzz word today but we had this before. There are naval mines that were a anchor mine with a guided torpedo attached to it. The sensor would detect a ship and launch a torpedo at it.

[@leow.2162]

Most countries are party to the Ottawa Convention that makes the use of anti-personnel mines illegal. The US, Russia and China (and others) aren't but generally most countries have banned them. Also: the fact that drones are looking for you means they can be dangerous in a lot of places mines can't, e.g. your living room.

[@mgh7634]

The fact those drones can look for you means everything. What if you are a civilian that it thinks is a hostile? What if you're a hostile but you have civilians nearby and killing you means killing them? What if you're surrendering? What if you're guarding with a bunch of POWs around you? What if you're near an important piece of infrastructure such as a dam or a power plant? What if you're near a bunch of highly lethal chemicals that if breached could carry on the wind and poison a town over? The problem with machines is that they are only dubiously good at carrying out what you tell them to at the best of times and are either terrible at or incapable of considering the random, messy factors of life that would give a decision-making human pause. There's a lot to be afraid of there. Now would you hold the soldier who sent the drone responsible for its screw-up? Maybe depending on the circumstance? But honestly you're right that you probably wouldn't and that alone is a huge problem, as again it touches on an accountability issue with these weapons. There's so much that can happen and so many ways a nation and its military can shrug off responsibility with an "oops" and a lol.

[@DajesOfficial]

​@@leow.2162 most countries don't mean shit. You literally named all major military powers as a "small exception"? Others agreed not to use them because they knew if things came down to fighting they are fucked anyways

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

They're less ethical. Mines remain more or less where they're placed and are more to try to keep enemy forces out of areas, so you can often post their location without really sacrificing much, autonomous drones though make accountability really difficult and may or may not target what you expect. Just look at how effective Teslas have been at murdering people.

[@Sokar12345]

lets not get morals get in the way of profits. thats unamerican.

[@War_Criminal23]

5:15 The Patriot mentioned 🎉❤🇺🇲

[@wiledman2430]

Imagine your sitting in your trench and the last thing you hear are 100s of giant bees

[@vikingzeroone9647]

Honestly, CoD was unironically my introduction when it comes to drone use in warfare. Then the war on Ukraine happened and I've been getting clips of both Russians and Ukrainians getting blown up by grenade-dropping drones. Then I started readng more Black Powder Red Earth and I learned about the Switchblade drone. I swear, were a few decades away from deploying actually androids into combat...

[@bomjahed]

Nah, people caught on the street are basically free 😢

[@robertdover5185]

"Mildly dystopian" I don't think there's a whole lot of mild here tbh

[@cheesefries7436]

I like that "accountability gap" idea. It gives a name to what huge corporations do too.

[@robertward8035]

They had drones using mini flame throwers on wasp nest a long time ago.

[@Voitan]

Drones the size of flies, with deadly chemicals/poisons.

[@feuerling]

Genetically modified wasps that are either target trained or have "cyborg modifications". Some wasps and bees can learn to recognize human faces.

[@joshuaamado559]

Somewhere in Quantico, Virginia: “Sir, what if we Shot a drone…” “…” “Out of a Mortar” “……….. I’m listening”

[@nobodyherepal3292]

You know Switchblade exists, right?

[@shorgoth]

Even worse, what happens when Bob in his shed decide to strap a gun to his 3d printed drone and use it on a crowd because he's angry about the mailman.

[@theholypeanut8193]

Gun Drones? Thermite Drones? Can't wait for Disassembly Drones to be deployed.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

I get the reference!

[@karal_the_crazy]

Nice

[@Nexalian_Gamer]

So basically real life vulture droids that attach themselves to vehicles/machinery and sabotage it

[@LouisWeaver-m4j]

We should make Worker Drones first though.

[@theholypeanut8193]

@@LouisWeaver-m4j Well, I mean, Disassembly Drones are basically just Worker Drones but with a demo version of an eldritch virus.

[@Garvm]

We have had things that kill without human intervention since the first time some guy made a hole in the ground and covered with branches expecting something to fall inside. Mines are also weapons used without human intervention. Drones and loitering munition are mostly the same thing

[@MrQuantumInc]

Most countries have banned the use of land mines on the basis that they often hurt the wrong people.

[@pekka405]

​@@MrQuantumInc do you know which countries arent included in those "most countries"

[@MrDj232]

But nobody has proposed making a drone out of nukes and chickens.

[@Rope_Adope]

@@MrQuantumIncthose countries havent been invaded or at war in decases. I think the term is “luxury beliefs”

[@sethheristal9561]

Yes but, as the other commenters pointed out already, no. The matter is scale, speed, and threat. You have a minefield in front of you, ok that's bad, but that minefield isn't going to move at all. Now imagine that minefield seeing you from byond horizon and fly to meet you personally in the face.

[@andrewbrown6522]

Theres an original star trek that i always thought probably got it right. Computers warred internally and people recieved death notices after. They were to report to a biotissue recycling center to be processed. They accepted this new type of war because it was less destructive and you had a chance to say goodbye to loved ones before reporting for recycing.

[@hazel5092]

As a warhammer fan, why is it always startrek that makes me feel sick? That’s more disturbing then Tyranids, or the Daemonculaba

[@andrewbrown6522]

@hazel5092 I dunno... i stopped watching tv a long time ago and have no idea what those things are. Lol. I think war hammer is a game? Death metal band?

[@hazel5092]

@@andrewbrown6522 it’s a rather grim dark Sci-Fi setting that’s like 40years old by now, however this startrek concept is oddly disturbing to me as someone who regularly reads Warhammer, I’d rather read Black sun, dead sky again xD

[@mithril5869]

Warhammer is the origin of the term Grimdark

[@Oberonjames]

I'm glad you are actually asking these questions and pondering the implications unlike, say, health insurance companies, who have no problem letting ai decide who lives or dies and don't care about the consequences

[@ayanacharya9747]

I just can't wait to be a drone myself for the glory of the empire.

[@VenturiLife]

When they're AI autonomous with facial recognition.. things get more fun.

[@thorcoudyzer1779]

This shit is why aliens don't visit us.

[@Justin_Taylor]

Unless I can mate with them they can stay in their little flying saucers on Mars.

[@69Kazeshini]

Aliens would have to go through something similar before they become space faring species so they should understand what we're going through.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

Yeah, the aliens were all destroyed by their own drones millennia ago.

[@Foogi9000]

​@@Justin_TaylorHell yeah brother!

[@shiggermetimbers]

​@@69KazeshiniUnless if they were a gestalt consciousness from the get go

[@gogglesfpv7986]

dude! thank you for the information and your presentation. Im an fpv pilot, I build and fly my own quadcopters, Its the most amazing fun you could ever have...most of the videos on this topic almost spread fear of drones in general, thank you for not making fpv not look so bad and actually being knowledgeable. 🤘🤘🤘

[@mjc2962]

I have really bad attention issues But everytime I see your or cappys video, I can watch em from end to end without even getting distracted. It tickles my tism as a certain man would say 😂😂

[@Justin_Taylor]

It's because he's so handsome

[@BLAZE-1001]

Just tell the southern boys they’re clay pigeons and you’ll never have a drone problem.

[@ZACKMAN2007]

Soon we'll have battle droids

[@colemurphy2063]

Begun, the Drone Wars have

[@rowanashton5490]

B1 battle droids are on the horizon, but still no progress on lightsabers or hyperdrives smh

[@JimMiller-z6s]

we do, in ukraine we use unmanned vehicles with machine guns and Grenade launchers radio controll to engage position as first wave of assault, like that COD streak that you can drive around

[@thatguy9211-q8o]

Skynet 2.0. Much worse, yet it appears true.

[@cameronlittle7298]

I am more scared that the Marine Corps is getting more intelligent and actively learning than being melted to death by thermite drone

[@justanotherimperialfist]

Broke: This is like Black Mirror! Bespoke: Ace Combat 7 was warning us...

[@domdomdom02123]

It's interesting to think of time when war is purely an economic struggle. Military targets are the means of production, and the way one side beats the other into submission is by bleeding their economy of resources and its population the will to continue funding the war. I think we're already there in some sense, given the Chinese area denial strategy of "more cheap rocket make American sad", but the rapid adoption of COTS drones is certainly accelerating this trend.

[@georgiykireev9678]

A purely economic struggle mulching people and infrastructure in the area. Right

[@domdomdom02123]

@@georgiykireev9678 people are just temporarily illiquid assets

[@hackdurbrain]

Cold war espionage never ended

[@muhammadabdul9746]

Currently in my first year of Uni. I'm following an organization that teaches me how to make and control UAV. One of the missions is to make it drop a payload to designated target. I'm doing my part

[@LSAgates]

This was exactly what I thought would happen. Skynet WILL happen.

[@kyneticist]

Multiple Skynets, of varying sizes and capacities. Every nation will need to compete or contribute to a defensive pact. If this sounds absurd to anyone else reading this, think about how responsibilities will increasingly be handed over to AI systems. I'd also add that over a relatively short time, the number of people who monitor or even know how those systems work will go to zero.

[@LSAgates]

@@kyneticist The understanding of the system going to 0 is what I worry about the most. Making it entirely autonomous will be the outcome. Then someone will hack it and use it against it's citizens. Or it will pull a terminator.

[@QWONIE]

@@kyneticist this is already a issue a perfect example being old military vehicles from WW1 not a single person living now knows the reason for most things in old vehicles in fact this is a problem in academic fields like science where alot of older scientists didn’t really take much notes so we have the answers but no one really knows how the guy got there in its entirety you can also ask any software engineer or any person who works on mechanical equipment repair because due to the age of most mechanical equipment most equipment is basically in a stagnant state of just being repaired but never improved so much so that you’re basically coming in n trying to repair something based on someone else’s already completed work but like multiple times over

[@feuerling]

​@@LSAgates or a bug in the program

[@Yuck412]

This was a really interesting video that touched on some things about the topic I never thought about. Well done, good sir!

[@tripwire3992]

Thermite drones sounds like some shit from the bayverse transformers

[@evernewb2073]

we *do* currently have the ability to tie an aimbot to some fancy image parsing software and make fully automated hunter-killer drones (flying or otherwise, otherwise is honestly _worse_ since they're dead silent and have loiter times in the months). to the best of my _very_ limited knowledge the aimbot part is straight up good enough to shoot bullets out of the air if you've got it hooked up to something that returns information to it fast enough (has been for decades, these days even the stuff someone makes in their garage off of youtube how-too videos is easily that good though attaching it to something like the directional radar on a CWIS so it can actually aim at a bullet isn't exactly something you can do in your garage) but the image parsing isn't doing to hot on making drones shoot at a specific uniform or somesuch. works wonders for just shooting anything human-shaped in a designated region and does nearly as well at shooting people based on skintone or funnily enough *hairstyle* of all things.

[@Cs13762]

with the US military industrial complex, i bet we aren't able to manufacture large numbers of cheap disposable drones. that would require manufacturing our own electronics and plastic stuff cheaply while somehow being profitable.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

It wouldn't even be expensive. It's more of a matter of will. If an order for 5 million drones over the next X years were made, ordering the plastic pellets and doing the electronics in-house wouldn't even be that complex. The problem is the "hmmm you're contracted to make 5,000" and now you have to hike up the unit cost to recoup oj the investment. Drones don't need the latest chips. Even Russia has a chip fab. They're garbage if compared to modern desktop CPUs. But to guide a missile? It's perfectly viable. The US has chip fabs that can do weaker components.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Oh we totally could. Imagine if Lockheed Martin and Raytheon just spent All day making FPV drones. If Ukraine can make 30-40k FPVs (according to Perun’s research), out of garages and shacks, then imagine what the world’s largest MIC could do in a month!

[@schneejacques3502]

US can just buy it from there allies

[@j100j]

​@@nobodyherepal3292But no-one could take from the middle.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

@@j100j the middle of what?

[@masaharumorimoto4761]

Enjoying your videos!!!! Thanks dude!

[@skyrailmaxima]

Its simple, the ones who are most softhearted with their restrictions lose. Ai weapons become the new MAD, and warfare becomes increasingly dangerous to conduct, especially as an aggressor

[@LafayetteSystems]

As an engineer, sometimes I stop and think about the old Jurassic Park scenario of “asking ourselves if we could, not if we should.” I snap out of it pretty quick. After all, someone’s got to be the first to comprehend the next great man-made horror.

[@Justin_Taylor]

Something something born just in time to witness the first of the drone wars

[@user-id9bn1ic9v]

Doesn’t matter who we are or where we are we’re all cooked

[@youtubeisapublisher6407]

Drone swarms might not be ethically safe enough to be used on people or even vehicles yet but they could already be a nightmare for AA radar and jamming systems. Radars, radar blinders or dazzlers and radio/wifi signal jammers all work by emitting very specific wavelengths which can easily be distinguished by various types of sensors. Drones like this would only need to know what direction the enemy is in, where their area of free operation is defined, and they could be let loose. Radars, AA guns and missile emplacements, jammers, etc are already free game and already have anti-radiation self-guiding munitions like AGM-88s lobbed at them regularly. The difference is that drones are extremely cheap, can be carried long distances in common commercial vehicles and due to their small size and low cost could be launched in waves to saturate and overwhelm defenses which might otherwise be able to survive one or two larger missiles. In hotter peer conflicts stealth aircraft could drop containers full of them deep behind enemy lines to degrade their AA coverage and radar warning long before higher investment incursions. Ukraine is already demonstrating that for both sides having degraded air coverage has been a serious concern, and that radar and radio jamming is an extremely valuable capability which will seriously hamstring any fighting force that loses it. So my prediction is that the first really high-impact use of drone swarms will be for SEAD.

[@Kaladore82]

Skynet is coming

[@thomasbrown5738]

A good thoughtful video about the developmet and dangerous, scary, and useful possibilities of drones. An eye openr. Thanks!

[@Kenneth_James]

don't forget to add the shape of that mustache to the list of mistakes

[@Justin_Taylor]

Well now how is that supposed to make me feel?

[@etienne8110]

​@@Justin_Taylorlike shaving. 😅

[@OceansideSpiderHouse]

The Spike Firefly is basically a Half-Life 2 manhack carrying a grenade. Crazy looking at modern military technology and feeling like the line between it and science fiction is rapidly thinning.

[@idkatthispoint265]

may i show you the perfect counter for these small drones? BEHOLD!! TERRITORIAL BIRD

[@Serenchronodipity]

not bad thinking but honestly not hard to counter with things like a pepperpray dispenser, good old 12g birdshot/buckshot or electric shock deterrence and id imagine most birds leave the vicinity if they hear gunfire and explosions nearby. also its not hard to build a cheap fixed wing drone that can outpace any bird.

[@idkatthispoint265]

@@Serenchronodipity they were talking about hovering drones not plane drones however you do have a point with gunfire

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Behold, the drone equipped with an birdshot 20 gauge shot gun….

[@Serenchronodipity]

@@nobodyherepal3292 obviously the shotgun is fired by soldiers on the ground.

[@tetraquark2402]

Imagine a squad of small cheap drones tipped with nerve agent spikes chasing you

[@MarlowsDreams]

Wanna feel the psychological horror of being a civilian during a never ending arms race? Read the short story ”Foster, you’re dead!” By PKD. Then call your parents and tell them you love them and thank them for trying their best. Keep up the great work dude!

[@diamondarmedsoldier]

Did a CJTF rotation in 2021 as an air traffic controller and was designated as "drone watcher" and airspace liaison. 12 hrs a day, 7 days a week on a FAAD agregator, drove me ,my crew and the staff into perpetual drone strike paranoia. Big army is way behind on in terms of CUAS doctrine and capabilities. I wouldn't wish that job on my least favorite joe lmao.

[@baldieman64]

The thing that's most scary about drones is the shear capacity of China to manufacture these little buzzing death machines in unimaginable numbers. We can imagine what looks to be any normal cargo vessel pulling into a Taiwanese port and suddenly turning into a hornets nest of pre-programmed GPS guided drones, set to destroy every infrastructure node in Taipei, from radio towers and telephone junction boxes to government offices and military facilities. What can be done to Taipei, could be done to London, LA, New York or Washington.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

Ya? Now imagine what Lockheed Martin could do if it had serval dedicated drone factories

[@baldieman64]

@@nobodyherepal3292 Or what Musk could do with a "gigafactory" - but they would have to spool up. China could be weaponising 5% of its drone output right now, and we wouldn't know.

[@schneejacques3502]

You do know taiwan, korea, japan and usa can do the same thing to china?

[@baldieman64]

@@schneejacques3502 This reply will probably get vanished, just like my reply to the chap above. The simple fact is that while those countries (like the US and Europe) could convert existing facilities to drone production, the Chinese don't have to. They already produce drones by the millions and can easily divert a percentage of that production to military use. Not having to tool up and convert existing facilities gives them an enormous time advantage.

[@StephanTrube]

9:48 Enjoying these vids, thanks! Quite a unique, appealing mix of information, intriguing thoughts and rough jokes. About the speed of decisions: It goes both ways. AI can err instantaneously, but it can also correct instantaneously (for example, triggered self destruct in a missile to prevent harm). Just slowing decisions down does not necessarily make it safer. We should strive to make [them make] better decisions. Your point still stands though; they make different decisions than us.

[@playyourturntodieatvgperson]

i wonder if copper thermites have been investigated for this, it would produce a more intense stream than iron thermite. also, i wonder if we will see drone launched napalm or drone mounted flamethrowers.

[@Saqux]

we will 100% see drones with flamethowers

[@Warfoki]

I mean, I literally saw a video of a home-made drone mounted flamethrower being used to burn out wasp nests...

[@playyourturntodieatvgperson]

@@Warfoki yeah its entirely doable, i just wonder if it is worth it.

[@DOAM1234]

aww man i was down for a refresher on the wright brothers!

[@burnttoast111]

You have to think of the thermite drones as providing a free hot shower to Russian soldiers stuck in the cold.

[@berserkasaurusrex4233]

Funny how the Ukrainians were calling it a war crime when Russia used WP or that gas grenade dropping drone a few weeks ago. Guess they're all war criminals at heart.

[@dadmitri4259]

I agree that this is not overthinking. These are real concerns that must be addressed

[@carlosvasquez-xp8ei]

Victory at the cheapest price: man or machine are just resources.

[@VanillaSpooks]

Can’t wait until we have full autonomous armies and a ChatGPT model takes it over…

[@rocketmanzimm]

Your use of the term "bad guys" should be changed to "other guys" based on most of our recent conflicts.

[@JWQweqOPDH]

Adversaries or opposition forces

[@TheNefastor]

Semantics. The other guy is always the bad guy.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

"Bad guy" isn't a moral thing, it just means adversary. Dumbing it down to kids' language is incredibly common in the military.

[@tapurate638]

Dunno, russians look pretty much like bad guys

[@travisbenedict7766]

Just found your videos, these are great and your humor is excellent good work!

[@ducembarr7057]

One for the Algorithm:)

[@TheRadconranger]

I am glad your entertained...your commentary supplied me with some as well. It also filled in some side information on drone swarm tactics & usage I was unaware of .I think They need a higher grade of shotgun ammo to deal with these.. When these can target themselves with cheap AI...bad news.10 sealand boxes with 100 drones in each,( controlled at the box) would have the ability to deny access as well or better than a platoon of troops, Drop a couple behind enemy lines, set to kill anything moving, Yeah ,new tactics are needed

[@pf6797]

Gotta trim those nostril hair landing strips. Gotta

[@nicholasbrooks3997]

“War…. War, has changed” -Old Snake (Nanomachines)

[@EdmundKempersDartboard]

Am i the only one that has a serious moral issue with private citizens essentially crowd funding a foreign war?

[@cideltacommand7169]

I think so

[@etienne8110]

That s essentialy all wars. Most are waged for the interests of a couple billionaires. Now crowd funding allows even the average joe to participate and think himself a billionaire 😅

[@hotcakesism]

Not the only one

[@QWONIE]

@@etienne8110 yup people forget the world wars some of the worst wars in human history was basically funded by private citizens ell even ancient wars in human history has always been funded by the citizens in some way shape or form

[@Pan_Fryer]

im an automation engineer, saw this all coming. the only way to have a safe house, at this point, is to cooperate with neighbors and have electronic warfare defenses.

[@GnosticAtheist]

AI doesnt fail. It does what the code decides. Its just that we fail at understanding the algorithm, and as such it can do things we didnt account for. But its not failing anymore than a falling boulder who "failed" to land on a village, killing everyone. It just follows gravity, AI follows the algorithm.

[@fish5671]

ins't being agnostic and atheist at the same time a contradiction

[@NuniaBiznaz]

@@fish5671 His name says Gnostic, not Agnostic.

[@GnosticAtheist]

@@fish5671 I'm a Gnostic atheist, something that is a far greater contradiction, but its an inside joke in the secular sciences of religion. Gnosticism is dualistic (spirit/matter) so I am both a spiritual person and an atheist at the same time, for the lols. The symbol I am using is the spiritual anarchy symbol, reversed. Its all very edglelord. Listen, I was a young student once, I just didnt bother update my account ;)

[@eatingtheleaf4659]

We can’t always know how it will respond to unique / unaccounted for situations though.

[@ZorroComputers]

This makes sense to hit a convoy. You simply fly and disperse thermite on a line and all the vehicles are doomed.

[@heyyou5189]

anything in that convoy made if magnesium would be a spectacular fire

[@CanalTremocos]

I thought there was a line drawn since the 90s; There has to be a human in the loop at all times. Sad that there are so many people revising that rule. Thermite drones are the thing of nightmares, but one guy is on the other side going "blyat!!" and that makes it war. It is terrible and terrifying? Sure, but watchagonado? About hunter-seeker swarms trawling the countryside for victims, I can only paraphrase marshall Bosquet "c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre".

[@nikolaideianov5092]

If it makes you feel better from what ive heared the termite didnt kill anyone there The attacks after the vegitation burned down however

[@angelnunez6476]

It blew up ammo which caused death through all the shrapnel flying around. It also burns the troops clothing and everything around them making it really hard for those soldiers to take it out before they die.

[@damianbartlett4868]

Errol Morris made a documentary in the nineties called “Fast, Cheap and Out of Control,” which predicted this swarm strategy.

[@zoopdterdoobdter5743]

1:15 😂 Well played. If there's one thing I've been thoroughly conditioned to eye roll at by KZbin (aside from imbedded 'Better Help' ads), it's the tendency of commentators to start their recaps circa The Big Bang.