Transformers: The Movie - Caravan of Garbage

The Transformers: The Movie attempted to do the impossible. Take a children's cartoon about alienrobots changing into cars and planes and a gun and make a commercially viable mainstream movie where they kill most of the characters kids loved including Optimus Prime. It didn't work nobody saww it. But the legacy lives on because so much of this became popular Transformers lore including Unicron, new characters like Rodimus Prime and the tradition of Optimus Prime being killed in every medium. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage review!
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#Transformers

[@Bonkused]

It's a shame that The Guy Who Shouts Rodney had to die to make way for new toys such as Rodneyus Prime. He will be missed.

[@ZachBobBob]

You made me laugh out loud at work thank you

[@MichaelMartin-qe5ye]

The guy in the boat was Hot Rodney.

[@olivernewton4403]

THE TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE

[@skibot9974]

That means there’s a chance he’ll be back by the end of the season

[@MrJakePaddy]

I'm going to buy four.

[@CBloodRojas]

A truly touching send off for the guy who shouts Rodney. You were too beautiful for this world

[@dbagette]

considering how american streaming is going, I hope he eventually comes back as "Guy (The one that screamed Rodney)"

[@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan]

@@dbagette I hope they put him in fortnite, so that Rodney can come back as "the guy from fortnite"

[@LChaosNINTsP]

He shouted Rodney so much i had it in my head that he was Rodney somehow

[@ferhog7705]

It's okay. He'll be succeeded by Rodneymus Prime.

[@bennyboo8121]

Thank God I hated that part. Thumbs down to each video that had it.

[@_its_lunar_]

I love how James’s son being portrayed by a photo of James as a child is just the norm now

[@heelmoxley365]

So are the 2-3 stock images of the guys😂😂😂

[@quietman208]

Or that one pic of Maso just staring at the camera in the studio with some headphones. That one kills me everytine.

[@reedraikes7471]

I was thinking, "his kid looks JUST like him" lmfao I'm stupid

[@_its_lunar_]

@@reedraikes7471 to be fair my brother and dad both looked identical when they were younger so it’s understandable!

[@ridderjaim3]

@@quietman208 for me its James as the joker in the guess the X videos

[@GingerThoroughBread]

My friends and I, who are big Transformers fans, noticed something that is easily overlooked in this movie. When Kup sees Unicron and says "I've never seen anything like that" (or something to that effect, I can't remember exactly), this is a terrifying thing to hear if you think about it. Kup being an "old vet with stories" is a funny bit but when you think about the life span of a Transformer, Kup knowing nothing about Unicron should be equally as scary as Unicron himself. Kup has been around since the original 13 Primes, that means he's been alive since THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE. If Kup has no idea what Unicron is, you are dealing with something truly unique and your ultimate database of knowledge, Kup, has nothing to help you.

[@RAFMnBgaming]

I think that was the original sort of vibe they were going for, though a lot of that lore wasn't really invented and/or part of the cartoon's version of things. definitely what all the "this reminds me of the time..." lines were setup for.

[@serPomiz]

@@RAFMnBgaming at that point, lore was a combination of the back of the box, the commercials and the show, and the comics, in this order kup was very well setup to be an old soldier that went everywhere, so while nowhere as catastrophic as ginger here depicts, it was still a case of "logorroic but actually very well informed has nothing to add, this is a PROBLEM"

[@Jerrremy]

At that point in the Mr. Sunday lore where if a comment is long af I skip to the end to see if it's a long set up for a blue harvest joke

[@mrblickles]

In certain versions, you can hear a voice say “the guy who shouts Rodney will return”

[@jeynarl]

Next week on CoG: _"Somehow Guy Who Shouts Rodney returned..."_

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

Best comment

[@phillipjohnson8903]

My son still plays with his "guy who shouts Rodney" toy and he's going to be devastated by this episode...

[@dildonius]

Is your son's name Rodney? Or is _your_ name Rodney and when he plays with his "Guy From The Movie Adaptation Of Marvel Comics' Man-Thing Who Shouts 'Rodney!' A Bunch Of Times Whilst Rowing A Boat Through Man-Thing's Swamp At Night" toy, he pretends that The Guy From The Movie Adaptation of Marvel Comics' Man-Thing Who Shouts "Rodney!" A Bunch Of Times Whilst Rowing A Boat Through Man-Thing's Swamp At Night is actually shouting out for _you,_ his father whose name is actually Rodney? 🤔 Or if his name is Rodney, he pretends The Guy Who Shouts "Rodney!" is shouting out for _him_ or pretends _YOU,_ his father, is The Guy Who Shouts "Rodney!" and you're shouting out for him? Hmm? 🤔

[@coltrick4974]

In love with this story arc of “James introducing his son to his favorite childhood media but he has to stop and keep explaining everything because his favorite childhood media is nonsensical”

[@vision4860]

It's not nonsensical, the kid's just probably never watched a cartoon on actual TV before because of streaming. The same fade-to-black, fade-in-from-black happens when you watch something like Superman TAS on DVD but I understood it as a child because Netflix wasn't a thing yet.

[@scottletourneau4571]

@@vision4860Also KZbin.

[@sethwilson7088]

​@@vision4860we sure do live in a society

[@user-ks9oj7zo4p]

@@vision4860 Commercial breaks with fade outs

[@JasonFalconTHELEGENDOFGOLD]

Things tend to not make sense when you don't have the context of 2 Preceding Seasons worth of Episodes behind them, huh?

[@ashleytuchin7693]

Just as Optimus' passing traumatised a generation, the death of The Guy Who Shouts Rodney will forever haunt us. Rest in Peace, I hope you've finally found the Rodney you've been searching for.

[@LonelyRollingPanda]

I'm not crying because Rodney is leaving, I'm smiling because it happened

[@heelmoxley365]

Man Thing has my favourite blue harvest bit and the birth of Rodney!!!

[@ThreadBomb]

@@heelmoxley365 But it doesn't have the man who is the most on fire that anyone has ever been.

[@patrickpjsullivan]

@Heel Moxley 1000% on fire!

[@brks97]

As much as I love Green Trivia, I do miss James' iconic trivia names, and Maso's better ones immediately after

[@suicidalloafofbread2009]

I miss Trivia Bivia

[@heelmoxley365]

@@suicidalloafofbread2009egg trivia

[@crimsonvampyre602]

I miss "give ya some trivia"

[@knilla2k]

Trivodimus Prime

[@cluckendip]

Scream Trivia! Massive missed opportunity

[@Chuixupu]

Side note - Arcee was not the first female Transformer to appear on screen. There was an episode in season 2 of the TV show where the Autobots went back to Cybertron and met up with a whole group of them, one of them being Alita-1, Optimus Prime's old girlfriend. However, I know a lot of the movie was written even before season 2, so Arcee may have technically been created before those other characters.

[@KiropLokiIncarnate]

Yeah, after Arcee was approved for the movie a couple episodes for season 2 were written to have the Female Autobots in them- Search for Alpha Trion which had all those ladies, and War Dawn if Ariel during the Golden Age of Cybertron counts. However Nightbird (from Enter the Nightbird might qualify as the first female in the show, since while she was just an earth built kunoichi who didn’t transform and didn’t speak, but kind of counts because her episode was the first released with a female robot and since then Nightbird has occasionally shown up, including in the newest movie Rise of the Beasts.

[@Chuixupu]

@@KiropLokiIncarnate True, Nightbird was the first female robot in the show. She wasn't a transformer, but Megatron sure thought highly of her! But then again, the first female character to appear in the show was the human character Carly, who I thought was actually pretty cool for the time. She was an MIT student and fairly brave and ready to jump into action, usually Spike trying to keep up with her.

[@ElGordoBandito]

It’s a shame that the whole Rodimus Prime thing fell apart the way it did. A new leader who is ashamed he can’t escape the shadow of his predecessor is an amazing storyline, but it never really translated into anything thanks to the outcry after Optimus Prime died.

[@wisethirtyseven]

THANK YOU! Feel like nobody gets the potential of that storyline!!

[@SudrianTales]

Worst part is I don't think anyone ever will after this movie. The current joke when Optimus dies is when will he back and thay joke has yet to disappoint

[@TF80s]

@@SudrianTales yeah but his comeback was really epic first time around.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4Xahqpoab6pnas

[@RAFMnBgaming]

It's a shame they did that... TWICE *stares daggers at RID 2015*

[@wayigotitfigured9800]

That storyline only occurred because of the outcry about Optimus. These episodes were getting cranked out at an alarming rate - weeks of production time. It was almost 'real time' in how quickly things had to change.

[@keirdonohoe6809]

The end of Rodney is the most emotional I have ever felt without actually crying. How dare you make me feel a feeling I cannot explain

[@yellowfamilyfunny3065]

No Way… NO… this can’t be happening!

[@mf8736]

i don't even know what it's originally from and i am going to miss him dearly

[@thomasmoore4207]

@@mf8736 swamp-thing episode

[@jayinsult]

@@thomasmoore4207 Apologies for being pedantic, M8, but it's the Man-Thing episode!

[@ridderjaim3]

@@jayinsult maaan what were they thinkingg?

[@bensneb360]

For someone who could not care less, and only did it for the paycheck, Orson Welles still gives a pretty well done and ominous performance, props to him as a professional.

[@diverguy3556]

He did it for free food (see Jodorowsky's Dune).

[@Convoy00X]

I don't this it's that he didn't care. The quote they used is actually a bit longer and suggests he really did understand his part in the movie. Remember this is a guy that made his name by making and starting in a movie about a man who's dieing though was of a childhood toy.

[@ragingviking5712]

“For a time, I considered sparing your little planet cybertron, but now you shall watch its DISMEMBERMENT” - the coldest line in the movie

[@charlesmaclellan8124]

As sad and beautiful as it was... I'm glad it's gone. Lol. Although I fully expect to see it next time.

[@3Rayfire]

Also, even without the post processing, Welles sounds really good as Unicron.

[@GrimJackal]

The thing I like about Ultra Magnus is how practical he is. During the attack on Autobot City when Arcee, Springer, Blur and himself are launching the escape shuttle, Arcee informs him that Kup and Hot Rod are still trapped inside the city and his response is basically "I can't worry about that right now". He was entirely focused on simply getting the immediate group to safety. I respect that.

[@j0hn00]

That's exactly the problem though. He doesn't have The Touch™. Optimus Prime or Rodimus Prime definitely would have managed some nonsensical way to save everybody. Ultra Magnus is too grounded to become Transformers Jesus

[@brianng8350]

That is why he is a good foot soldier, but not leader qualities- not a visionary…

[@serPomiz]

@@brianng8350 he ain't a leader, but he's a damn good field commander. most of the time

[@jazztec4255]

He actually says when OP gives him the matrix "I'm just a solider"

[@PlatinumPaladin]

I'm an Ultra Magnus fan as well, but later on when the two Autobot ships are getting attacked by the Decepticons and Kup and Hot Rod's get downed, Magnus ends up flapping and says "I can't deal with that now." I don't like seeing it, but it's the way he is.

[@arcticarduino]

Refreshing to see coverage of this movie that doesn't complain about Hot Rod "killing" Optimus and inversely actually appreciating his role in the movie.

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

its the one where he's really bending over and grasping his knees that always gets me. RIP Rodney

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Rodney was already gone by that point, this guy's name was Wayne

[@deriksandoval5263]

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZepis it from swamp thing??

[@ImrahilToChaos]

Something that has to be remarked upon is that the opening scene with Unicron is a cosmic horror touch stone that even to this day is highly underrated.

[@3Rayfire]

Facts. These people are going about their day minding their own business, children playing, trains running, scientists discovering, and a planet whose name is apparently a myth emerges from between their two stars, and in about two minutes eats their entire civilization to turn his lights back on, and keeps going as if nothing happened. There's less ceremony than a snake invading a bird's nest to eat an egg.

[@Undrave]

@@3Rayfire and then the Quintesson kill the last member of that civilisation, leaving no memory of them...

[@TheatreJosh24601]

Fun fact: it was explicitly confirmed that season 3 of _Star Trek: Picard_ has a shot that was directly inspired by the shot of Unicron floating past a sun in the opening of this film.

[@jonathandonley3299]

To add to that: That first shot grabbed your attention, not just because of the horrific events but that haunting music that accompanied it.

[@3Rayfire]

@@jonathandonley3299 Unicron's theme is one of my favorite pieces of music ever made. Ominous, engaging, and punctuated by the breath of a dark god. And in techno.

[@gibs7320]

so glad you mentioned how difficult it is to animate geometric characters! i was kind of in awe watching this

[@ThreadBomb]

You just know that the animators had the toys on their desks to get all the poses and perspectives right.

[@MrJans3n]

Yeah, I was really happy they pointed that out. I feel like this movie is pretty underrated in terms of animation. The technical aspects of drawing robots vs people is an important factor for how impressive some of this stuff is

[@serPomiz]

@@ThreadBomb I like how they went trought the pains, toward something that has mostly been the norm since the half unicron trilogy (using engineering design and actual toys scanned in 3d as base for the posing)

[@louisalectube]

I am not kidding, this movie has one of the best - if not the best - opening sequences in movie history. Unicron DEVOURS a planet, the AWESOME song starts, you "fly" through the title and my 15 year old brain was like "...What are the Auntobots going to do about this???" while my hair was figuratively blown back. Also, at 15 years old, I had been "over" playing with toy robots and action figures for years at that point. But DAMN did I love this movie, as yes, as a 15 year old, I played w/ my Transformers figures again for a little while. I couldn't help it, the movie, and that beginning, were so good! I feel the need to say that I did NOT become one of those adult toy collectors buying way overpriced new action figures (to be displayed on a shelf ).

[@ScooterinAB]

My favourite trivial piece about this movie really is that it was treated as a toy commercial. The whole idea was that they killed off the old wave of toys as a launch event for the new toy wave. The execs just didn't think anything of it and had no idea that kids were attached to these characters and would be traumatized over killing so many of them.

[@frenchbassguy]

That 100% tracks with pretty much all executives

[@1977dajmo]

Has there been another character massacre in order to roll out a new set of toys akin to what Hasbro did here in the decades since in any other franchise? Pokemon would make the most sense, considering it's essentially about cockfighting, yet they survive, right? I'm going to say that the legacy of The Transformers: The Movie is that executives learned that toy lines don't require culling in order to remain successful. (I'm not going to assume they learned that it's bad to inflict trauma upon impressionable young consumers.)

[@eyespy3001]

In fact, the one exec behind this decision was so adamant about it that he was rumored to have held his breath until he was blue in the face in order to get the rest of the producers to cave in, which led to the working title of this movie being Blue Harvest, which was also the working title of the original Star Wars film.

[@ScooterinAB]

@@eyespy3001 lol!

[@ricardchavez8494]

I’m surprised they didn’t mention that in the video because it feels like it’s common knowledge in the adult fandom

[@J1994M]

Fun fact: the use of the word “shit” was very contentious in this movie. One of the screenwriters even went on record as saying that he didn’t approve of such foul, or “blue,” language. That lead to the working title of this movie being “Blue Harvest”, which coincidently-

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

thought you was going down the road of they wanted to change megatron blue so killed him off and replaced him with galvatron and that lead to the movie being blue harvest.

[@nbf-fb1xs]

You bastard

[@99baking]

Did they not do a blue harvest joke in this one?

[@tyrant8485]

Rizz comment.

[@J1994M]

@@99baking They did not! And I was bracing myself for it and everything

[@johnb5507]

Nice send-off to The Guy Who Shouts Rodney. He will be missed. Little known fact, John Batchelor, credited as portraying "The Guy Who Shouts Rodney" in 2005's Man-Thing, was informed during production that the script had been rewritten to cut a flashback scene featuring The Guy Who Shouts Rodney and his brother, Rodney. The scene's omission from the film deeply upset Batchelor, causing him to spiral into a deep depression which manifested in his wandering off set for hours to obsessively pick wild berries in the area. This led to the working title of the film being Blue Harvest, the same working title as the original Star Wars.

[@joshoshea3194]

I remember being in primary school and telling some of the other kids around the dinner table that I cried when Optimus Prime died, expecting them all to be understanding and in some sort of agreeance. They weren't. They all laughed at me. 😭

[@austintrousdale2397]

Two kids who are in the same grade, yet one has a birthday in October and the other in August can be worlds apart in terms of their maturity and outlook.

[@Lopnawe]

They had no class clearly.

[@B-b-b-b-erneeAsh]

Nothing never left me feeling better as a child than my favourite character Prowl being shot and the life literally fading from his eyes. Like no childhood trauma in that image whatsoever

[@BrotherApexx]

Same. He always looked so cool. But he didn't do much in the G1 cartoon aside from one spotlight episode when his battle computer went down and Chip took control of him. At least he had great character development in Transformers Animated before he became one with the Allspark

[@itsahostiletakeover]

Prowl's demise was particularly gruesome by sentient robot standards. At least they had the decency to kill my dude Wheeljack off screen.

[@TheatreJosh24601]

Fans of the IDW Transformers comics WISH this would happen to that version of Prowl.

[@didrikschubertsson8673]

My favorite was Wheeljack and he didn't even get a death scene! One moment he's alive and fighting and the next, boom, dead in a corner. Brutal. Life is very expendable.

[@RedVelvetUnderground333]

I’m choking more and more reading these

[@BOS_C.O.]

"He doesn't have the Rizz" LMFAO That Bionicle clip reference had me nostalgic

[@ESO_PRIME]

My favorite movie of all time. Saw it in the theater in 1986, i was 9 years old, huge TF fan. The movie showed me the tragedy of war & taught me never to give up no matter the odds. “Dare, better be all you can to survive.” To this day i’m still a huge G1 fanboy & have all the characters In masterpiece collectables. The comics really kept it alive for me & the movie is it’s foundation.

[@djmetcalf3815]

The guy who shouts Rodney deserves to live longer then calling it Green Trivia.

[@felipel.6742]

Things like the extremely detailed tangent on M.A.S.H. are the reason why I love this channel

[@austintrousdale2397]

Cheers’ “replacing” Shelley Long’s idealistic wordsmith Diane (blonde) with Kirstie Alley’s insecure corporatist Rebecca (brunette) was similar.

[@jimmymiller1313]

1000%

[@Madcap247]

I really enjoyed this episode as I love watching MASH and re-watching it from the beginning atm

[@jacqueslin8178]

For any child who saw this when they were young, this film really established the concept of death. I saw a comment that describes how many fans felt about it perfectly: Imagine the Scooby Doo gang. Now imagine they all died violent and brutal deaths with Scooby Doo dying on his deathbed. Then imagine a completely new gang of characters coming in and replacing the old gang by trying to solve the murder/future mysteries. This film was basically like that.

[@jamesonmoore1837]

The send off for The Guy Who Shouts Rodney was sadder & more heartfelt than the in memoriam robot roll call.

[@KarazolaX]

Watching the first FIVE minutes of this movie, I just have to imagine the creators of this thing knew that they were gonna terrify and upset a lot of children who loved these characters, and they made the thing with an evil grin on their face from beginning until after the movie released.

[@jcb62318]

Nope, the writers and producers of the show and movie didnt even know or care about the names of the characters, which is why there's so many errors throughout. To them it was just a paycheck.

[@pious83]

Definite rizz. I adored this film as a kid. Used to recite it word for word, with voices. Still the pinnacle of the 80's show.

[@matthewboer8279]

I’m pretty sure Stan Bush actually meant “you got the Rizz” but it was changed to touch for the soundtrack.

[@adamlouis3725]

oh no you dont megatron!

[@mrsrefrigerator]

Akira is an anomaly. This is 9/10 animation and then Akira is like- Hold my beer.

[@coletravis6561]

Akira didn't come out in 1986; it came out 2 whole years after Transformers: The Movie. So them comparing the two animations and claiming that they came out the same year is just wrong.

[@McLarenMercedes]

@@coletravis6561 They were close enough chronologically. Also, while Akira was a milestone several animes before it were still better made than Transformers the Movie from a purely aesthetic and visual point of view. See the opening scene of "Castle in the Sky" when the sky pirates attack for instance. The 80's was a difficult time for animated features in the west since Disney (which pretty much had a monopoly on animated features being cinematically released) was going through a rough patch and hadn't released a commercial success since "Robin Hood" in 1973. Anime features were doing well in Japan but at this time you could only see them on VHS rentals in the rest of the world and most of the public was oblivious to their existence... In other words your average movie goer knew *nothing* . And to be frank they don't today *either* - which is particularly odd given the readily available information found on the net.

[@nightskyarchitect]

I watched the 4kuhd of this the over day. I still can't get over and absolutely love how ridiculously brutal it is for a kid movie

[@senorchivo90]

Did you know the voice actress for the first female Transformer was named Susan Blu? The producers really wanted to cultivate fandom in a young female audience. Really plant that seed. Naturally, the movie's working title came to be "Transformers: The Movie," which stuck

[@youngrootv]

The Doki Doki Literature Club music playing during the description of the lore between Unicron and Primus is something else 😂 Also RIP Rodney Guy 😢

[@elneedso]

THANK YOU!! I knew that music from somewhere but I just couldn't pick it.

[@Inkarmy]

You guys get deducted 10,000 internet points for not mentioning the band 'Cybertronic Spree' and how they have made a decent living dressing up as Transformers and playing The Transformers The Movie soundtrack live at nerd gigs, like Cons and such

[@mikenolan73]

Their cover of Immigrant Song slaps.

[@lutherheggs451]

who cares? What does that have to do with the movie, the series or the toyline.

[@vorpal120]

Indeed. The Soundtrack to this movie is pretty awesome and Cybertronic Spree keeps it alive through some truly epic performances. One of the best cover-bands to totally immerse themselves in something they love. Speaking of Soundtrack, Vince Di Cola did some cool work for the music in the battle sequences. He's the same composer that did some of the soundtrack work for Rocky IV. I thought for sure Green Trivia was gonna mention that detail since I think the most enduring thing about this movie (other than Optimus Prime's death) is the Soundtrack. Also, rip Rodney....

[@GeordieMcCabe]

@@vorpal120 Cybertronic Spree released a whole cover album of the soundtrack, and even got Weird Al to appear in their clip for Dare to be Stupid!

[@Noodelzmop]

​@@lutherheggs45110,000 internet points deducted

[@wardo8150]

I've been watching the 80s show on Tubi(no ads surprisingly) and my favorite thing is the loyalty that the autobots and decepticons have for their leader. Except starscream.

[@MrJans3n]

This is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I enjoy it more and more each time I watch it. The colors, the animation, the pacing, the music, the voice acting, the atmosphere - everything's just so fucking awesome

[@tj_wilson1]

This running Snake Eyes joke gets me every time. 😂😂

[@ThreadBomb]

I just wish they'd made a fake thumbnail for the video.

[@directorforplastic7929]

@@ThreadBomb like what they did for Batman Begins and Twilight?

[@virgil3241]

Im 50, and I still watch this occasionaly.. This was huge in the day, and the death of Optimus was a massive hit to the feels.

[@SolarE845]

I used to watch this film a lot as a kid in the early-mid 2000s. Still love it to this day, the soundtrack is great

[@nicholasruhling6429]

Loved the MASH montage. Love to know that James is as big of a fan of that show as me

[@jimmymiller1313]

And me!

[@TheJesselopez1981]

So long Rodney. Of all the very inside jokes on this channel, you were one of them. I wonder who's going to get Rodney's matrix of leadership and become the camper van of compilations? Maybe a compilation of camper vans?

[@HALO3RULZLOLZ]

This is my favorite movie of all time. I can say, without a doubt, that at this point in my life, I have probably watched this movie more than everyone who worked on it. Its just so unapologetically 80s and it, in fact, is full of rizz.

[@TF80s]

...and the animation is superb, no matter what this clueless duo say.

[@skarhead7597]

Also my favorite to this day

[@Yogsoggeth]

Same, bro... Same.

[@asdfreii]

These two truly cover every generation 09:49 something for the kids 11:10 something for the boomers

[@cybertronprime20]

James and Mason not accurately knowing what "rizz" means is the best running joke throughout the whole video.

[@EyedMite]

I love how Ben finds the most random KZbin clips like Optimus prime on a toilet !

[@chrisgill9872]

I first saw this movie when I I was 11 years old… It went from 30 minute toy commercial to heavy metal REAL QUICk! I adore this movie, and I'm so glad to hear you guys did as well. It easily outranks any of the live action movies.

[@Billiepippen]

amen

[@Jay-bf8yp]

Lol, my dad took me to see it in the theater when I was 4. My son is 4 now and I think WTF haha.

[@wbennin]

Same!

[@matmccarthy515]

Yup! Caught this at the cinema as well. I remember recording the entire movie onto cassette tape when it was released on VHS. I could then listen to movie over and over again. Hard times, yo!

[@ThreadBomb]

@@matmccarthy515 Listening to movies and TV shows on cassette is a lost art.

[@JeffKryger]

Still one of my all-time favorite movies. Watched it more times than any other movie probably. The number of re-release versions I have bought, and special screenings I have attended.... definitely made their money back and then some on me

[@jondejoy5780]

I absolutely loved this movie. I'm pretty young but my dad showed me it when I was a kid. The soundtrack is iconic.

[@williamsimkulet7832]

2:20 The original cartoon, especially the first season (comprised of "multipart" stories), was pretty revolutionary. It's obviously not perfect, but it explores strong war and environmentalist themes. Coming off of the 70s oil crisis, the main driving force in the early series was a fight for natural resources, with their home world ravaged by war and depleted of energy - the very food source for transformers. It also featured strong science fiction elements, with the transformers being "out of time" having been in stasis for millions of years, and having to adapt to life on Earth. The Civilian VS Military dynamic made for a strong underdog story as well. It's no coincidence the series has maintained it's strength over the years with this solid foundation.

[@lutherheggs451]

it didn't have any themes. It was a 30 minute toy commercial, literally EVERYTHING was a toy commercial in the 80s...The movie was their way to kill off all the toys that were being discontinued and the new line introduced.

[@williamsimkulet7832]

@@lutherheggs451Cybertron is a world ravaged by war (theme: War is bad. This is the 80s, we were just putting MAD on pause), and natural resources (energy) was scarce (the 70s ended with a massive oil crisis in which gas needed to be rationed). The transformers leave their homeworld and go into stasis for millions of years. They reawaken and plan to go home. Does Cybertron even still exist after such time, given the state they left it in? "It must..." says the villain, for it is his to rule. Meanwhile the good guys don't want to fight; they fled their homeworld in search of energy (in the comics, it's to save their home planet from asteroids... neat, but it undercuts the fact the good guys are civilians and not fighters!), but they find themselves on a new world and their war has started anew. Cartoon, and especially comic book, Optimus feels responsible for bringing their war to Earth and vows to protect the locals. In this regard he's drawing off of the Greek heroic archetype of fixing what you broke. Meanwhile at the end of the 3 part "pilot" the main autobot forces are given a choice - fight Megatron, and probably lose, or stay behind. And while they've been various degrees of not wanting to fight the story, they decide to risk their lives in the end. Hasbro has Marvel writers help flesh out Transformers and GIJoe lore and personalities, and it largely worked. The comic is interesting, but doesn't age well. But the cartoon is interesting and, I think, ages pretty well. It's not perfect, and if you can't get over the "alien robots merely to sell toys" aspect, it's probably not even good. But the original show, especially that first season, explored a lot more than you'd expect, especially compared to contemporary "made to sell toys" shows.

[@EvalonGames]

@@lutherheggs451 Does that somehow invalidate the creative talent behind these shows? They're hardly flawless masterpieces, but a lot of the shows are better than most folks tend to give them credit. I mean, we're still talking about them 40 years after the fact?

[@rhodriwilliams2599]

My father introduced me to this movie when I was like 6 or 7, and I only found this out recently that he actually worked on the toy line! He told me he was one of the painters of the toys and every painter spent 9-11 hours per toy, to cut this time down the designated teams of people to paint different colours of the toy, so there was a red team and a yellow team, a blue team (the team my father was on). He told me he met my mother as she was the supplier of the paint and that she was the one who harvested the paint herself, they got married which led to the working title of this movie being blue harvest, which coincidentally was the original working title for Star Wars. Yes this was all a blue harvest joke. I've never seen this film, my parents probably know nothing about this, or paint or toys.

[@jayinsult]

Top marks for this, M8, you had me going right up until "harvested the paint herself"!

[@burritoboy2751]

😂😂😂

[@MicronOnline]

The combination of Orson wells sliding in, The fact narration done casually, AND the DDLC Music. It sure did raise my flight response.

[@jameseglavin4]

I love that James is now raising his own clone, Jango Fett style

[@timcogan82]

The still of James and “his son” saluting Reagan is going to make for a great meme template.

[@exzyyd392]

My favourite example of those kinds of advertisements are on the VHS of Digimon: The Movie (which is actually 3 different movies but that's a different story). At the beginning of the movie, not even in the special features or anything, there's a tie-in advert for the most terrifying show I've ever seen (Angela Anaconda, don't look it up it's not worth it) and then adverts for toys for characters from the show and movie.

[@richardgreathead5735]

Oh god I thought I was the only one who remembered that horrific Angela annoconda show!

[@exzyyd392]

@@richardgreathead5735 I apparently used to watch it a lot but all I remember is that ad. I genuinely repressed the memory lol

[@richardgreathead5735]

@@exzyyd392 you mentioning it unlocked a mind lock and it flooded back 😭

[@jonathansodacan5769]

The de-aged picture of mason never ceases to make me laugh

[@allisonhomiak2336]

The bit at 9:46 where the music says "the Touch" at exactly the same time as James was a real pro-gamer editing move. All the Just Right Pancha memes in the world to Ben and Lawrence for that one.

[@flywheelshyster6549]

Had to stop the weekly planet for thus haha. Hey you're community is like...really good and kind. I left an algorithm comment about being in hospital for dad and the response was shocking in its kindness. Yall all great people 👏 👍

[@mrsundaymovies]

That’s really nice to hear! We try to foster a kind community and it seems to attract those kinds of people. Hope all is well with your dad mate

[@lmc7233]

Nooo way your actually covering it, finally some appreciation of this masterpiece

[@saltyunion278]

RIP to the guy who shouts "RODNEY!"... truly taken before his time...

[@Villainz]

Finally!! You guys are reviewing one of the few Tranformers movies ever made!! Can't believe it took until BUMBLEBEE for live actions ones to be created!!

[@philfitnesspt6139]

This is way better than bumblebee that is only slightly better than the others but makes same mistake to much focus on boring humans I didn't care less about that girl and her losing her dad etc I wanted see focus on the transformers like in cartoon.

[@mathiaswalker350]

Ultra Magnus has NO Rizz. He can die in a ditch, as far as James is concerned. Not me though... those are James' words, not mine.

[@goldengamers937]

Love that ben and laurence are clearly in a succession phase

[@SaulGMV]

Remember when they were into their iCarly phase?

[@goldengamers937]

@@SaulGMV then sam and cat

[@joseleal8248]

When they talked about his kid asking if they were dead after the a character turns a corner has me cracking up thank you editing gods

[@shaundis2117]

I saw this movie on VHS in 1987 . After the Megatron / Galvatron scene I had to turn it off and sit alone trying to comprehend what i had just witnessed . It was the first time a movie ever effected me and so few have since on this level. Age 11 and you just saw all your fav toys from your fav show die? Brutal.

[@Rokushi14]

"Your Reality" from DDLC playing in the background during Green Trivia really threw me, but was a very pleasant surprise

[@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D]

Still on of the *greatest soundtrack albums of all time* by far! You'll be surprised how often music from this pops up in other things - especially on KZbin. *DBZA* even dips into it!

[@animeking1357]

Really? You wouldn't to know what episodes of DBZA uses music from this?

[@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D]

@@animeking1357 Are you asking me? The *Bardock: Father of Goku* special, for starters.

[@animeking1357]

@@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D Thanks!

[@Darthwilkins]

So glad you guys finally did the Caravan treatment for this film. You’ve hinted throughout 7 transformers movies that you’ve seen this and clearly know some of the law. So I’ve been waiting a long time for this and I’m glad it’s here!

[@Hyspellman]

I was hoping Ron Freidman would get a shout-out - I had him as a screenwriting professor in college, and he was an absolute legend. Very cool to learn that he played such a major role in introducing female Transformers.

[@sealdoggydog]

Fun fact about this movie: After Hot Rod received the matrix of leadership, the original draft had him transform into a large blue Combine Harvester. Due to the secrecy surrounding Optimus Prime's death, the movie was code named Blue Harvest, which coincidentally was the original name of Star Wars.

[@McLarenMercedes]

99% of all "fun facts" are just *utter nonsense* Some CLOWN started them, probably by intentionally making false claims to see how many would fall for them. Sadly there's no shortage of *idiots* who'll swallow any story hook, line and sinker if it sounds "amazing" so we are seeing a sh*t ton of these *ridiculous/absurd* "fun facts" posted for virtually every movie there is. Other "fun facts" have a shred of truth in them but have been "improved" by chimp X (cue chimp noise), then "improved" some more by chimp Y (cue agitated chimp noise) and finally distorted beyond belief by chimp Z (cue a whole jungle of chimps screaming). Now maybe these "fun facts" are meant to be funny simply because they *are* silly/stupid but I'm afraid humor translates badly in written form and especially in the autistic cess-pool of the comment section. So in short: If you tried to be funny, humor isn't your forte. If you're sincere and *actually* believe what you posted... Curtains for you as a human being.

[@erichmartinez3569]

The guy who shouts Rodney is literally the highlight of my week… well Caravan of Garbage you will get no more likes from me

[@TheSuperNaruto96]

hearing James say ultra Magnus has no rizz and no hands in the same minute truly unlocked something in my brain and i can't stop laughing

[@DragonRebelRose]

As a forever M*A*S*H fan I greatly appreciated the little explanation of why M*A*S*H has such great and memorable replacement characters. They did character replacement so well that I much prefer the replacements over the originals.

[@jimmymiller1313]

Me, too!!! I think the show really picks up after Henry and Trapper leave. I love Winchester, but I also enjoy that middle part of Frank being in charge amd then losing the command before Charles gets there.

[@DragonRebelRose]

@@jimmymiller1313 Same, that's always a classic!

[@jacquelinejones7787]

RIP that guy who yelled Rodney. Enjoy restworld with westworld

[@jacktoma21]

I don’t know if it’s Ben or Lawerence who are really into Succession and kept editing clips in, but they have my respect

[@augustthepineapple]

Ditto for Bionicle footage slipping in there

[@flamingbunnyrabbits]

Thank you Ben or Lawrence for putting the cheeky bionicle nod in there, much appreciated.

[@jhenz3378]

This is my ADHD movie. I started playing it in the background as a kid doing homework. To this day, 30 years later, I still have it as the only movie in my KZbin library so I can play it in the background while I am work. I couldn't even begin to calculate how many times I have seen/heard it. Even so, I wont say it is a great movie but always entertaining.

[@SpiritLife]

How can you get rid of The Guy Who Shouts Rodney?! What's next, Green Trivia?!

[@jeynarl]

I love the use of baby James as a stand in for actual James's kid

[@miles3379]

This film was a key part of my childhood. Love this and can still watch it. Get goosebumps when Hot Rod turns into Rodimus Prime, even now.

[@adequate8983]

This was a more deranged video than normal, great work. The hard cuts to Optimus on his deathbed sent me every single time.

[@fredyates1043]

Goodbye, guy who shouts Rodney. Rip to a real one.

[@OverlyEnthused]

Can't wait for the snake eyes review next week, been waiting so long

[@greghill158]

I've seen this movie dozens of times. I was so happy when it finally came out on DVD as I had to order my VHS version from Canada because it wasn't available in the US at the time. My kids will never appreciate it to the same level, but it was mindblowing seeing this in theaters. Even as a kid, I thought it was dumb that they brought Optimus back in the show, and that was when I stopped watching it.

[@TF80s]

He was literally brought back three episodes before the last ever episode..so you only missed three episodes by not watching after he returned...here's his return ep kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4Xahqpoab6pnas

[@ZachBobBob]

The way 80s kids talk about this movie constantly I thought it was a colossal hit

[@brandonandcharlene9527]

It was, to all of us who saw it in the theater in 1986. It was just ahead of it's time 😂.

[@TVOR]

It should have been. Everyone who watched the showed should've seen this. It's the show x100 on steriods. I can't think of another movie from a cartoon show that was that entertaining while staying true to it's cartoon origins.

[@brandonandcharlene9527]

@@TVOR The more I think about it, it really was a miracle my mom took me to see TF TM. Gobots and He-Man both had theatrical releases around the same time, and I didn't get to go. Glad I got to see the best one though. I also really wanted to see Godzilla 1985... Didn't happen. Thankfully it came out on video not long after.

[@HollywoodWick3d]

I mean, is your pool of "80s kids" larger than Transformers fans? As an 80s kid and a Transformers fan (then and now) I can say that I had no idea this was even in theatres until friends at school mentioned it. And I didn't even see it until it was broken into a week long part of the cartoon show.

[@Oscar_Myk]

You've got to bear in mind back then most cinemas weren't multiplexes and so would show films aimed at adults during the evening and only show stuff like this earlier in the day on weekends. Most kids would see animated films on home video instead of at the cinema (the exception was Disney)

[@erocyourflock19]

RIP guy who shouts Rodney. Hope he finally finds Rodney in meme heaven

[@padraicloingsigh421]

I just can't believe Marky Mark and the Funco Pops still have a career.

[@tomj2303]

Arguably the greatest soundtrack of all time

[@myohmyDesign]

I AM THESE TOYS!

[@kahnkretefpv7594]

I was 10 years old. Saw it in at the movie. It was the most profound moment of my life at that moment. Cartoons had always been "immortal" so watching this massacre was insane. That said, I loved it then, and I love it now. The amime, the voice acting, and the soundtrack omg, the music was a 10!

[@hgc7000]

Saw it in theater as a 7 year old in 1986, it was wild to little kid me. Today, the animation is stellar for basically a toy commercial and BY GAWD KING!! The movie’s soundtrack is outstanding. It is as hard an 80s music-stavaganza as you can get. Love “Nothing’s Going to Stand In Our Way”. That track will never cease to rock out. And yes, it was jarring to little kid me that Optimus died, but he came back a few months later in the show, so. Yay? RODNEYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

[@TF80s]

He sure did come back in style though.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4Xahqpoab6pnas

[@SlimeCrime121]

The guy who shouts Rodney. The transformer we never knew we needed. Fly high sweet prince.

[@diywrites8703]

Oh, this movie is full of rizz. Its one of those movies from the 80s that I can watch over and over again and not get tired of it.

[@KareemHarper]

I saw this as a kid in theaters opening day. I was 8. I thought it was cool Optimus died and liked Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod. The soundtrack remains amazing. Fun fact: I remember vividly the NYC crowd cheering when Blaster brought out his own cassette tapes and kicked Prowler. RODNEY RIP!

[@walrusArmageddon]

9:19 I dunno why but him saying "I dunno, a block?" has me in stitches omg

[@konstantinkoverchenko9587]

The flick was probably the hardest cartoon commercial to date. 😆

[@li-limandragon9287]

I can't imagine the tears shed by the 80s kid who watched this movie. Must of been like Mufasa 10x.

[@transformerstuff7029]

Truly......I did not care one bit.....lmao guess I watched this after All dogs go to heaven...........thinking about that movie at 37 years of age still makes me tear up man lmao oh that one and the jewish mice.......An American Tail Don Bluth was out there making children cry with cartoons.

[@loroleibusser5993]

almost as much as the tears I shed over the guy who shouts rodney

[@RobotDeathMonkey]

As one of said kids no, I was so burnt as a kid watching the show with no stakes, knowing no one was ever in any real danger. Once the transformers actually started dying I was shocked but in a good way, especially since it was main characters. I was so excited now that the fights actually meant something, even if the permanent death part stopped after the opening events.