Worst Star Wars Trilogy Ending? - The Rise Of Skywalker Spoiler Review

Out of the Original, Prequel & Sequel trilogy does Star Wars Episode 9: The Rise Of Skywalker have the worst conclusion? This is our spoiler review (spoilers from 22:45) from our podcast The Weekly Planet in place of our Tuesday Caravan Of Garbage. That'll be back in 2020 but in the meantime thanks for all the support in 2019. Much appreciated. xo
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[@mrsundaymovies]

What's the best/worst Star Wars trilogy finale? You can't say Rocky 3.

[@jordan-vj6yj]

Rocky 2

[@sanderflop]

The worst Star Wars trilogy finale is the Boba Fett movie that they never made rounding off the anthology trilogy.

[@pab_loq]

Rocky IV imo.

[@Matt_Mosley1983]

BEST: ROTS Worst: TROS

[@mattym8038]

There's only one good one.

[@SavageRicktator]

Palpatines Wife: "Where you going honey?" Palpatine: "I'm running down to the corner of Exogul to get a pack of Snokes"

[@acgeewhiz]

(Slow clap)

[@mrsundaymovies]

That is a very good joke and I’m proud of you.

[@paulsevenitz616]

Perfect joke

[@fumblebag8458]

SavageRicktator stolen tho

[@neilcuckmann1704]

😂

[@jamesthenabignumber]

Palpatine is 3 for 3 hitting himself in the face with his own lightning in trilogy finales.

[@melissag4902]

By the force your right

[@em791]

It’s like poetry. It rhymes.

[@kyotoandsunchips8585]

😂😂😂😂 never trust lighting

[@em791]

Kpop Fan “Never trust lighting” I think that was the motto during Solo’s production.

[@melissag4902]

Cause it's always after thunder

[@Gir101Evil]

Luke's lightsaber talks to itself in two Australian accents for an hour

[@AntonP99]

*anakin’s

[@johnnygyro2295]

@@AntonP99 The Family Lightsaber

[@HiddenGhul]

Kirk Hammett I hated how this movie completely ignores that Luke’s lightsaber was green and that the blue lightsaber is not really his. Why didn’t they bury Luke’s lightsaber with his father and sisters?

[@Gir101Evil]

@@HiddenGhul literally never thought of that, fuck. Where's Luke's green boy?

[@bewdragon2908]

All lightsabers have Australian accents...

[@errornoname23]

“I’m Rey.” “Rey who?” **Looks to distance** “Rey Grievous.” **Extends 2 extra arms and grabs 3 more lightsabers.**

[@bonganisileya9109]

this is my favourite comment ever lol!!!

[@DoomVlad]

*including the 2 it just buried*

[@reecejohnston9817]

Starts coughing

[@LordFindogask734]

Don't you mean... G*REY*vous?

[@generalgrievous8017]

That’s honestly the best possible ending we could’ve gotten.

[@normalhuman1825]

“I’m Rey” “Rey who?” “Rey’ed Shadow Legends, the most ambitious mobile game...”

[@agostinanapoletano3124]

Honestly if she said that it would have been better

[@kompanjonac]

Lmfao

[@ReinatakaharaVT]

Yup that's about right shes as bland and unlikable as that game .

[@freetherapy-84]

😂

[@dj__alien]

“I’m Rey.” “Rey who...?” “Rey Maclunkey.”

[@amaxamon]

That would have been brilliant... foreshadowing... the Story Group triumphs again!

[@Relugus]

Rey Bans

[@MungeParty]

ReyBacca

[@alexanderbjorlin3610]

Rey Binks

[@Scripzure]

Reyclunkey

[@micasa8421]

The best part was palpatine showing up and saying maclunkey.

[@twstf8905]

Ba dum dum PSSSH

[@saebelzahnseba]

Damn you! You were faster. Well deserved, sir.

[@RyanSmithMedia]

We’re at 100%!

Oh lord!!! I missed that!!

[@renesrelics]

True

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

*Rey Palpatine commits identity theft*

[@mustavogaia2655]

No, she is just a bad divorce: every man she came in contact with lost job, name, health and wealth.

[@theevermind]

The movie the rise of Palpatine

[@mustavogaia2655]

@@theevermind it is palpstine saga.

[@alonsoarana5307]

Ben: Identity theft is not a joke Rey! Millions of Wookies suffer from it every year!

[@heiro7572]

*It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Theme starts playing*

[@JoelJoel321]

Rey being revealed as a Palpatine undoes the 'nobody' twist in Last Jedi. It's equivalent to if Luke found out Vader is not really his father.

[@Draconicus702]

Yeah, it's stupid to have one movie go out of it's to explain how she's a nobody with nothing special about her, only to immediately pull a 360 and have her be someone of great importance.

[@frankenmuth1]

James Earl Jones thought the Vader Father thing was a lie intially. I remember seeing that in one of the many Star Wars documentaries.

[@gagaplex]

I really, really liked that Rey was a nobody. The Force is everywhere. Everybody could learn it. Fuck the midichlorians and bloodlines crap. And now it's back to "you're as powerful as your heritage; if your ancestors weren't strong with the Force, you will never be, either, no matter what you do or what enlightenment you try to achieve."

[@amontgomery]

@@gagaplex yet the average mouth breathing star wars fans eat that shit up

[@craigoneill2216]

JoelJoel321 comments sections were full of muppets complaining about the fact she was a nobody all the shit about Mary Sues! People are never happy 😂

[@HeadBangerBoogie]

"I'm Rey" "Rey who?" *Looks into distance and hears a studio laugh track* "Rey mond. And everyone loves me" *Piano outro*

[@Averagejoe-wl9ym]

Force Ghosts Marie and Frank off in the distance.

[@sants2674]

Rey Mond, daughter of the famous Al Mond

[@porkins-84]

Freeze frame while the end credits start

[@NanneEsqui13]

I thought it was a little weird when Palpatine default danced but it wasn't too bad when Kylo and Rey joined

[@NanneEsqui13]

but honestly this movie was so crowded that you couldn't focus on anything, the screen was physically cluttered it was messy

[@joeybrisk1869]

Nannette Esquijarosa the shit made my eyes glaze over.... I felt like an old man

[@tam2237]

Nannette Esquijarosa my favorite part was when Rose, Palpatine, The Knights of Ren, Maz Kanata’s college roommate, snokes severed lower body, the 9th sister, and Shmi’s lifeless body holding a severed tusken raider head flew through space like leia did in TLJ

[@NanneEsqui13]

@@joeybrisk1869 every time I watched it I thought it was just me being stupid but no this movie doesn't know the concept of slowing down for even a second

[@NanneEsqui13]

@@tam2237 call me controversial but i thought that scene was overrated :/

[@cheesyballer]

I didn’t think the movie was too bad, but the moment when Palpatine screamed “MACLUNKEY” and summoned and army of Greedos was a bit weird, even for Star Wars.

[@NoOneYouKnowYet]

That would've been better than what we got

[@tam2237]

James Morrall my favorite part was when Rose, Palpatine, The Knights of Ren, Maz Kanata’s college roommate, snokes severed lower body, the 9th sister, and Shmi’s lifeless body holding a severed tusken raider head flew through space like leia did in TLJ

[@transsexual_computer_faery]

it's actually "Moklonki" which is the most revered savior in Rodian culture, he was a roadie.

[@damnielm0]

I am so glad that happened. I’ve seen multiple comments saying this and I thought it was a joke at first. But wow. Maclunkey all the way.

[@GuyWithBadHair]

Actually, if you'd read the prequel comic you would know that there was a perfectly good explanation for the army of Greedos... 🙄

[@nickstadler1906]

Princess Leia: "Chewbacca can have a medal over my dead body!"

[@Lektuerekurs]

LOL !

[@haveapotato691]

Kind of wondered about Leia being a bigot. She mistrusted Lando as soon as she laid eyes on him. Granted, she was right, but I wondered if Leia just didn't like black people.

[@jackgahagan3908]

A distorted laughing track plays while the cast stars directly at the screen, straight faced with tears in their eyes

[@MaxWelton]

Chewie didn’t need to be given a medal, he inherited Luke’s and Han’s

[@lieutenantdan7807]

A ancient Sith dagger from 30 years ago 😂

[@flankspeed]

Like those legendary mythical Jedi that were still alive in the lifetimes of half the universe....

[@corberus3119]

30 years is ancient for their target audience of 9 year olds

[@Сайтамен]

@@flankspeed While one of them is 60-year old man and other one is his apprentice...

[@mammothchimp1774]

The Disney trilogy is beyond lame.

[@colorin81colorado]

Krist (I can't be bothered to look up your name)Tirio has the brain of a two years old... Remember how Ray thought Luke Skywalker was a "myth"? Or how Ray remembers Oshies' space ship from her childhood even though it had been sitting abandoned at the top of an open rock formation for over 30 years... Or how that same assassin's dagger was lost 30 years prior even though that dagger had been used to kill both of Ray's parents but the same guy when she was about 4 or 5 years old... But Ray is not 30 years old... So her mother had her long after she was dead?? There is more! Soooo much more!

[@LateCambrian]

The Knights of Ren are the "Golden Company" of Star Wars...

[@irritatedbear9383]

Late Cambrian FACTS

[@slyfer60]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@jimjam7928]

I hate how the Golden Company are now a byword for useless sods when they're such ballers in the books (who actually have elephants in Westeros).

[@peterparker9214]

Holy shit bro this comment is extremely underrated 😂😂 so true

[@alexmartin3143]

*Show* Golden Company… The real GC has Aegon…

[@bricostello428]

“It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Macbeth, Act V, scene v

[@askers_]

Ah yes.

[@Alexcoman51]

Dude they reference TLS in Macbeth? Crazy I didn’t know that the movie was even out back then!

[@fiercelunarhavoc4627]

slap slap slap clap clap clap

[@bricostello428]

Alex Coman, yes. William Shakes-3PO wrote it.

[@zumzum74]

Boy you sound so smart quoting that thing you googled to remember what it said I bet you know a lot about movies you sure sound smart. Fuck off, asshat, you’re not cool.

[@conorwhitmore300]

When they show all the Sith in the crowd around the emperor the camera should have had a slight close up on one so you could see a pair of jar jar ears, would of made the film 10x better

[@fraserduffy4576]

10x 0 is still 0

[@Mythowars]

What if all the followers were gungans? Jar jar was busy over the years recruiting for palpy. Then they all just get reemed with lightning ahahaha.

[@Tarimoth]

would have*

[@Hoscitt]

So why was Palpatine's son entirely disposable but his granddaughter 'special' ? 🤔

[@sargentocapitao9668]

gosh you people are dumb or maybe just uninformed. the force skips generations. hard times make strong midi-chlorians, soft times make weak midi-chlorians. If your upbringing was tough, you're probably a strong user of the force, which means you're able to provide a softer upbringing for your son, so your son won't grow up to be a tough guy nor will he feel the need to develop his force skills. your son is probably a loser, so his daughter will have a tougher upbringing, meaning she is more open to the force. I'm kidding, I have no idea what I'm talking about

[@Hoscitt]

@@sargentocapitao9668 you suckered me in then damn you! Was about to counter with Luke /Vader Haha! 😁👍

[@mungus5273]

Because plot & lazy script writing

[@filbencs5098]

Bad writing :/ Honestly, should have just let Rey be a nobody.

[@yaboipie5861]

Because at the time Rey was a kid and could easily be manipulated whereas his son was an adult and couldn't be manipulated as easily

[@stanley13579]

The "ancient sith dagger" macguffin with the 30-year-old deathstar wreckage stencil carved out of it is still one of my favorite elements of bad writing in the whole series. It proves two things: 1. Never get the obvious cocaine-addict Chris Terrio to co-write your movies, ever. 2. Never get in a room, or vehicle with someone who thought The Rise of Skywalker was a good movie. They have the capacity to kill without remorse.

[@orbaitv5991]

It just proves there is something wrong with YOU because the movie NEVER says that the dagger is ancient. If you think the movie is bad then you have zero media literacy.

[@seansarto]

The joke is C3PO basically has the Last Jedi wiped from his memory

[@AdrianERosales]

Lol, omg. So true!!

[@skoomajoe6205]

Holy cow, that's amazing

[@LaurenceQuint]

So it's a happy ending, since he gets to (re)watch the best SW movie with fresh eyes.

[@MaccamatBux]

No he just got his memory wiped from before the film started.

[@seansarto]

MaccamatBux i dont know...said up to Reys first mission...i figured that was Finding Luke

[@moaimoai7977]

I would have given this movie a pass if they had revealed JarJar was the one who cloned and revived Palpatine

[@moaimoai7977]

@@thejaw15 _woooooosh_

[@franklagoon22]

I would have weeped tears of confusion, anger but mostly joy if this is true. Hell, there's so much room for us to fill in the blanks, it might as well be true. Thank you.

[@tam2237]

thejaw15 no, jar jar was one of the best things in The Phantom Menace. He was the only character in TPM that wasn’t boring and one dimensional. Sure he wasn’t the best choice but he gives the movie what little life it has

[@brentbrowning5031]

thejaw15 *no*

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

It was foreshadowed so much in The Phantom Menace as well lmao Lucas didn't have him smile at Qui-Gonn's funeral for no reason.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

Robot Chicken Palpatine: "If you had made up your mind 5 seconds earlier, we could have ruled the galaxy and maybe I could have gotten laid one more time before I died." Rey: *gets revealed as a Palpatine* Me: Looks like he did.

[@bradleyjacinto7732]

Jedi Spartan 38 MY MAN

[@andrewlopez7298]

My lord

[@Jedi_Spartan]

@@andrewlopez7298 Robot Chicken Palpatine: Yo

[@welkingunther5417]

Guess some lady was into men with a scrotum for a face apparently.

[@brett66]

I'm mildly curious if anyone at Disney ever had anything resembling a trilogy outline.

[@deathsyth8888]

@LostInTranslation? It's not like Rian Johnson went rogue and made The Last Jedi by himself. Disney had to approve it every step of the way. I don't know what's worse; they had no overarching plan and just winged it/radically course corrected after each movie or this was their "plan" all along.

[@creed8712]

deathsyth8888 what’s worse is that they had an entire franchise going on right beside Star Wars that’s success was built on planning and the most they took from that was the ending line when defeating the bad guy

[@MaxWelton]

They didn’t. They literally didn’t.

[@MST3Kfan1]

@LostInTranslation? I’m sorry but no, JJ didn’t. Not in the slightest. It’s been confirmed by the people who made the trilogy. Even Daisy Ridley said so recently. To actually work on a overarching story, Abrams would have had to jettison his beloved “mystery boxes” but he has neither the talent nor drive to do so. Besides, Abrams was a producer of the last Jedi, it’s right in the credits after Ruin Johnson, so he had input into the film, just like Gary Kurtz had in the original trilogy. Abrams had not the slightest idea about the characters and story, leaving Ruin Johnson to his own designs. All one has to do is take a non-biased look at Abrams’ CV to realize that he is not a very good creator. A good producer, sure. Can he make stunning visuals, sure. But write and direct a coherent story, nope. Just look at his work on Star Trek.

[@SVTStrikesback]

@@creed8712 the good news is, they are doing it now. That’s what they are doing with all the new series coming out. They are going to do an MCU -like crossover with at least three series I know of, possibly four or five.

[@christian11111]

My favorite part was when Chewie was sitting there mourning the loss of one of his closest friends and the guy from Lost/Lord of the Rings comes by and taps him on the shoulder to tell him to come help. Yeah lets not let Chewie be sad for more than 10 seconds, why would we want to emotionally resonate with someone we have come to love. Oh but he gets a medal so its all okay, good call JJ. On a slight side note, Chewie watched his best fried die (Han), watched his best friends relationship fall apart (Han and Leia), watched his nephew (Kylo, who he helped raise) turn to evil, watched his nephew kill his best friend, had his other friend all but ignore him (Luke), semi watched his nephew kill his good friend Luke, and lost his other good friend Leia. All that happened over the course of a few years, how sad and traumatic is that, why not have Lando come by and mourn with Chewie before they both agree they must continue to fight for their friends they have lost? That would make so much sense.

[@christian11111]

@Gem Tadu So two things, one, "Didn't that happen?". No it didn't happen, Chewie was on screen mourning for 10 seconds at most (I timed it, it may have been 9 seconds). It was a good scene, very powerful and heartfelt. The next scene of Chewie has Lord of the Rings guy tap him on the shoulder and say, "come on buddy we need you". Chewie begrudgingly nods and gets up. This isn't a terrible scene, however 10 seconds of mourning isn't much, and why have a random guy push Chewie to help when we had Lando right there. He is introduced just before this as an encouragement to Poe, why could he not be that for Chewie since they both have lost long time friends. Or at least make it Finn or Poe, we literally have seen Lord of the Rings guy for a few minutes in the movie, now he is telling Chewie to get up and stop moping, that just doesn't line up as far as good/impactful story telling. That is hurry up and move on because we have to cram a lot in here story telling. As far as Lando and Chewie in the Millennium Falcon, your right they do end up there but we don't see any interactions between them, they just appear on screen in it with a bunch of other ships. The moment you describe occurs offscreen, I can assume they had some bonding over the death of their friends but if I don't see it how can I emotionally resonate with it. Second thing, yes Chewie is old, he was around 230 I think in age is what I read before. Just because he is old does that make him not emotionally attached to those he loves and befriends? No, I mourn the death of my dogs, I don't just say, well they were going to die before me, so be it, I better just go get another one. I mean Han and Chewie spent nearly 50 years together, that is a long time, that is a best friend, thats a brother, and now his wife just died, probably the only human women who ever showed him compassion, the only thing that still remains of his dead best friend, the mother of the nephew he helped raise and loved, and your telling me he doesn't or shouldn't mourn because he has lived 200 years. That is a very simplified way of looking at relationships. I have heard people compare Chewies relationship to a dog, however that misses that fact that Chewie is entirely sentient, and can vocally share his emotions, wants, and needs. He is not a dog who is simple minded, he has emotions that are driven by true intellect not instinct, he is a person. Maybe I should have said this first, my original comment was not made as a, I would make this movie better, it was to sarcastically point out that the one moment we as the audience could have emotionally resonated with a character they only gave us 10 seconds of it, and then we are abruptly pulled out of it by a random side character saying, hey get up we need your help. I didn't like it, I thought it weakened what could have been a strong moment of the film and I could see it being done better. However I totally understand and accept if you have a differing opinion, thanks for the conversation.

[@christian11111]

@Gem Tadu haha my apologies man, I thought your comment was meant as a total disagreement to what I was saying happened. So your not wrong that they do end up in the falcon together, however it is after the mourning sequence I am referring to. It is when all the ships show up, the falcon is leading them and it’s Chewie and lando together flying the falcon. They have a few more brief scenes together in the falcon during the final battle, maybe 1 minutes worth. After the final battle that’s the last we see of the two together. So again your not wrong they are together in the falcon, but they get together off screen and appear together all of a sudden. So that’s why I disagreed with what you were saying. I didn’t mean to be a jerk I just took your comment incorrectly, sorry about that.

[@MIISSSIIX]

Chewie is an actual part of the team in the og trilogy. Fixing the falcon, cool goggles, arguing adorably with Han, get a pat on the head, stealing an at-st like hes actually INVOLVED. In the sequels he’s just -there- and that’s just sad :/

[@christian11111]

@@MIISSSIIX agreed my friend, poor Chewie got shafted just like every other OT character.

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

When Chewie got the medal he should've eaten it, and that's why he didn't have a medal in four. Also, curious why didn't Chewie get a medal in the lore. Did the rebellion just not have enough?

[@adamsmith8765]

The rise of Skywalker occurred during the kiss scene. Change my mind.

[@thetrippedup9322]

But that would mean Rey had a... a...

[@thomasbozard6096]

@@thetrippedup9322 He's talking about Kylo Ren.

[@coin3720]

This has 69 likes.

[@adamsmith8765]

@@thetrippedup9322 feminine benis.

[@thetrippedup9322]

@@thomasbozard6096 I know, I was making a joke. Obviously.

[@MrTykel]

Chewie experienced both Han and Leia 's death.

[@mattybdbz4665]

But not his own.

[@russellharrell2747]

Mattybdbz yeah, he missed that one, boarded the wrong plane. I’m sure he was there for Lumpy’s death tho

[@Rylopero]

Tyrone Fant he could save himself from death, but not others

[@BlocktorwhoUnlimited]

Macklunkey's death too

[@carston101]

Chewie finding out Leia died honestly had me teary eyed, and I pretty much never cry during films.

[@joshgomes5939]

Actually there are 4 death fake outs, Keri Russle's characters planet was the one blown up, but she managed to survive i guess

[@mattbounds]

There's actually six. Chewbacca, 3PO, Kylo, Keri Russell's Character, Kylo again, and Rey. And all of them are undone pretty much immediately.

[@skoomajoe6205]

@@mattbounds Babu Frik: Am I joke to you?

[@jeffwolfplays0513]

You can’t complain about fake deaths when in marvel nobody really dies. And people love those movies. lol

[@paliboy93]

jeff wolf Sure you can

[@thebrutusmars]

jeff wolf I mean we all knew that the people were gonna get snapped back after infinity war. They made that very clear.

[@aria5614]

"Anakins made peace with the sand" Sudden urge to draw Anakin making sandcastles.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

That actually sounds adorable. 😊😍

[@laundrybasketgamers]

Dewit

[@colekikkawa7898]

Palpatine: "I am all the sith" Rey: "And I... am Iron Man"

[@fraserduffy4576]

Rey who? *Rey looks at Iron Man’s armour* Reypulsers

[@KostaDoesStuff]

If youre gonna try to kill chewbacca maybe dont put them in the trailer in a scene we havent seen yet....

[@batmantheworldsgreatestdet5160]

Kosta spoilers This is one of only things i think should be a little different. Would have been same effect if rey said i could have killed him and skip the fakeout

[@Dustomatic]

Batman The World's Greatest Detective i honestly wish they would have killed Chewbacca in that scene. That would have been the most dramatic scene in the entire trilogy.

[@Jooglesberry]

I never felt like the audience was supposed to believe chewie was dead.

[@rom7245]

Kosta you’re implying Star Wars fans have a long enough memory to think back to a trailer they watched months ago. I’m pretty sure no one really noticed or cared that Rey used a lightsaber that blew up in the last movie.

[@Kori-T]

Rom I noticed the light saber, I thought they should have made Rey create her own saber in the beginning of this one instead of the end. Because we’re probably never gonna see her use it. As someone who watched the trailer once I forgot it & actually though they actually killed Chewy & was pissed at first. Then 30 seconds later he was back, and now I’m more pissed because they just used it for shock value.

[@battleupsaber462]

I jokingly said that Rey should defeat Palpatine while saying Maclunkey, but after seeing the movie i think i'd unironically prefer that over "I am all the Jedi"

[@DaveVaderify]

Yeah

[@Srikar-on9ib]

It would've been a lot better if we hadn't seen Endgame a few months before.

[@elliotkouame3849]

Sai Srikar no it wouldn’t. It’s fundamentally not Star Wars-esque

[@legitiotjake]

"I am all the sith" "I am inevitable" "Yeah? Well I am... All the Jedi" "Thats funny cuz iiiiii am..... Iron man" Me: I am over this shit

[@oliverr1992]

@@elliotkouame3849 i feel like its sooooo star wars, I could see luke saying something like that in Return Of the Jedi imo

[@danielclark-hughes692]

Wait... Mr Sunday and Mason are trapped in that lightsaber!

[@qqqfuzion2582]

James and maso

[@danielclark-hughes692]

@@qqqfuzion2582 Blasphemy! We don't use their mortal names!

[@phoule76]

they should make out

[@vanceb98]

Took me 25 minutes to realize what was happening with the lightsaber

[@SNO3R]

rey showing her dark side trapping the best maclunkeys in her lightsaber

[@KenWojcik]

“Poe is basically Wedge, but we’ll get to that later” *Doesn’t talk about the Wedge Antilles throwaway cameo later at all*

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Expectation: Subverted!

[@lucasoheyze4597]

He may have blinked and missed it 😉

[@KenWojcik]

Lucas O'heyze Lol true

[@mattloyselle9218]

Its was comical how fast that shot went by. Its like that cameo had no impact at all.

[@groundcontrolto]

I would have loved the end of the C3PO arc to have been, "I've never had a best friend before, why don't you tell me all about these adventures we've had"

[@EasyCure0]

*sad beeps*

[@welkingunther5417]

Ah, I actually would've liked that. That would be the one thing I liked from the movie if it was a thing.

[@vcuheel1464]

There couldn’t be clues to Palpatine coming back in 7 & 8 because it clearly wasn’t planned despite anything Jar Jar Abrams says. This is what happens when you have no outline for your story and let each director make it up as you go along.

[@russellharrell2747]

Syzyfowe Prace Leia was Luke’s sister???? But they were making out in the first two movies! It’s almost like.....oh....

[@mungus5273]

Russell Harrell I agree that that one wasn’t planned out but it wasn’t the entire plot of the movie. It also had some emotional depth when Vader uses it against Luke.

[@vcuheel1464]

Russell Harrell George Lucas certainly didn’t have everything planned out ahead of time when he made the original trilogy. In fact, I think he and many of his fans overstate how much he planned it out ahead of time. He got lucky with some things. Getting lucky once isn’t a good excuse for making the same mistake again. It’s also a much more difficult task when you’re doing sequels that need to stay consistent with canon from 6 movies and a lot of animated series, books, and comics. This is why Disney needed a person to run the show, create an outline, and approve/disapprove of anything that could change cannon.

[@daxx6687]

@@russellharrell2747 a kiss between siblings is normal.

[@russellharrell2747]

xdarthxx 669 not that kind of kissing

[@SolomonMcNeil2]

It took me far too long to notice why the lightsaber was pulsing

[@euanjackson811]

Sectionzz Echo wdym why?

[@theguardian2428]

@@euanjackson811 Its their voices creating a noise wave. (Don't know the actual word.)

[@chrisgerhard4425]

Shady 123 the lightsaber pulses with the audio.

[@Matt_Mosley1983]

cool effect, right?

[@ExodusDB]

Yeah it took me a minute

[@FromeFmAjayD]

Can we just appreciate for one second that Ben or James (probably Ben) turned Reys lightsaber into a active sound wave 👏🏻

[@transsexual_computer_faery]

who is Jembs?

[@thrillcollectors]

28:42 “there are 3 death fake outs!” Actually there are 3 for Kylo alone. I think there are 5 total

[@Armoless]

How did they get all those ships to arrive so quickly? Lando: "I will pay you all the Alimony and the Child support due, just meet me here!"

[@nel9357]

😁 👊

[@jackgahagan3908]

If you looked at some of the ships, you realise he must have had his way with Hera Syndulla from rebels. I'm not denying you, he has his ways

[@MetalSandman999]

Nothing says woke like making the most prominant black guy in the movie someone so horny that he fondles a robot... #SoloLostMoney lol

[@RogueBoyScout]

@@MetalSandman999 #NobodyCares

[@THEGOOD360]

Honestly just wanted more cohesion in this trilogy. At least hint at palpatine's return.

[@TimothyLau55]

Actually, this is a hint of his future 50 times returns.

[@april3534]

@@toddnolastname4485 yeah, but it’s not like the ideas of the first movie were that interesting. The middle one actually individualized the sequel trilogy and set it apart from the original.

[@JamTaylor69]

@@toddnolastname4485 because the force awakens was so brilliant right? JJ just laid a load of mystery boxes and left them for someone to pick up

[@medalgear654]

how about a good trilogy, we can't even have that after the prequels. JJ is also to blame for being a hack of a director

[@Scripzure]

I see the Destroid logo. Raise your fist!

[@auslander7258]

Ace review guys, but there was two landing craft when chewie got taken, they show you this when he’s being loaded onboard HOWEVER we only see the one taking off and that means they should have seen the other one when they were getting on the ship and Rey would have been able to sense him from that distance if she can from a bloody star destroyer

[@SatBrumane]

and can't sense the old lady detective within speaking distance..

[@aworthington82]

Best part about the "we can't do the Holdo maneuver, it was a one in a million" thing, is that they show a shot of it being done over the forest moon of Endor at the end of the damn movie.

[@tevcon317]

No they dont?

[@daxx6687]

Ilkr. Looked very similar

[@liampezzano]

Because JJ Abrams is a fucking coward

[@Akoom]

They didn’t though stop making shit up just to hate the movie

[@liampezzano]

Shapiro the Ewoks look up an see the exact same shot from The Last Jedi re-enacted in the sky. It happened. Watch it again if you have to. I’ll wait the 3 months for the blue ray and post it right here for you. Just remind me.

[@bangobuck8722]

“I’m Rey” “Rey who” *looks into distance* “Rey Frik”

[@SeanTanktop]

BangoBuck87 on board

[@jondehoff4512]

*Laughs in Babu*

[@tamnam5722]

Hey hey!

[@davidheitzenrater9027]

"An absolute cowards move". The entirety of The Rise of Skywalker summed up in one sentence.

[@orbaitv5991]

What movie did you watch?

[@PauLtus_B]

14:19 "What can we do that will upset the least people."

[@db66-i6i]

Love the lightsaber soundbar

[@cyryc]

"as a fan of JJ Abrams work I was expecting a serviceable completion.. I was let down" *wut*? This guy ever see LOST?

[@Davidsworldtravels]

Abrams has never had a decent ending to any story in his life. I was worried when they brought him back for an ending to a trilogy but this is even worse than I thought.

[@FlameQwert]

i think that was a joke?

[@Shadowfire204]

So this is a SPOILER kinda So in RoS, Finn tells Rey he has something to tell her and then he never does, it goes nowhere. Apparently in an interview they confirmed he wasn't going to tell her "I love you" or something along those lines like people thought, he was going to tell her that he was also force sensitive which is why he can randomly sense shit throughout the movie. Either they really shouldn't have had it in the movie or it should have been resolved, not answered in a fucking interview after the fact ffs

[@Southpaw535]

It also just doesn't make sense that, of all things, that's what Finn desperately wants to tell someone just before they all die

[@jkrenee]

I may be in the minority here but I figured that was what he was going to say and ended up not saying it because it was obvious. Apparently it wasn't obvious to everyone.

[@Shadowfire204]

@Jason Rasberry well they were doing reshoots up until about three weeks before the premier

[@Shadowfire204]

@Christopher Chadwick Well the whole trilogy they've made it seem like he potentially had a thing for her. And besides him just sensing stuff it wasn't all that obvious he's force sensitive. It might as well have been coincidence considering coincidences like that were happening throughout the movie. Maybe if anything had been planned from the start and production for this one wasn't such a mess, it might've been more obvious to people. Regardless it should've been handled differently and resolved, or not been in the movie at all. People shouldn't have to be hearing about it from the director on an interview after the fact.

[@toddfooshee]

TheShadowfire204 hahahahaha. No they weren’t.

[@ZDMarriott]

Emperor: If you kill me I shall take control of your body! I am invincible! I am immortal! Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Rey: But wait - what if I have TWO lightsabers??? Emperor: Goddammit.

[@ShirDeutch]

Hey, remember at the end of The Last Jedi when Luke says to Kylo "see you around, kid" just before he vanishes? Was I the only one expecting Luke to appear before Ben Solo and was completely baffled when Han Solo showed up instead? I've seen people talk about this scene fondly but I found it so weird and out of place that I couldn't enjoy it. Like, in a film series in which certain people, after they've died, have the ability to communicate with the living, they chose to bring back the one person who DOESN'T have that ability? I just don't get it.

[@nirvana2277]

Revenge of the sith ended with a new hope. Return of the jedi ended with the chosen one becoming a jedi again. Rise of Skywalker ended with our favorite characters gone.

[@DatBrasss]

I felt rise of skywalker was rushed and not great. It had some fundamental flaws and some weird retcons. I still enjoyed it. A solid Venom/10.

[@liampezzano]

This is the most honest Venom review I’ve ever heard

[@captaintaco2345]

True. I think the every 2 years rule is hurting the brand

[@legitiotjake]

"Weird rectons"

[@Unknown-hb3id]

@@swindlehadyn Overhated? The normies adore this movie.

[@Unknown-hb3id]

Swindlehadyn Normies do adore this movie though. They clap like seals.

[@kingfield99]

It's so weird that back in the halcyon days of 2015 I was so excited for The Force Awakens, scroll forward 4 years and I really couldn't care less. Expectations Vs Reality.

[@YajAbby]

Best to Worst endings of star wars: 1.Return Of The Jedi 2.Rise of Skywalker

[@yew2489]

1. Revenge of the Sith 2. Return of the Jedi 3. Rise of Skywalker

[@YajAbby]

Bob Picklesnout revenge of the sith is not an ending, it’s a build up

[@yew2489]

Abby Sophia ok true

[@Luca-bv5ic]

@@yew2489 return of the jedi is better than revenge of the sith.

[@quantum.starhop]

@@Luca-bv5ic this is subjective. But generally yes.

[@therewasadisaster]

Oye hoyeeeeeeeeee -Babu Frik

[@Raycheetah]

Proof Fraggle Rock and the Dozers are canon in Star War. =^[.]^=

[@blackshogun272]

therewasadisaster I honestly wanted to see Babu use a custom blaster pistol for his stature but still shoot normal size bolts 😂

[@Lockn3s5]

Rey being nobody was the perfect reveal for both her character and Star Wars as it resets it back to how this universe was first presented to us. How some random kid can become something more. I understand the King Arthur influences and it in turn gave us one of the greatest twists in cinema, but for this sequel trilogy, Rey Nobody was a far better choice for the future of Star Wars. Rey Palpatine just makes this another Return of The Jedi theme and story. I understand what the film is saying by choosing your own destiny but again, we already got that lesson. Lol. This just undermines the point The Last Jedi was making and the strides it took to move Star Wars forward outside of Star Wars tropes and TRoS just walks every single one of those ideas backwards. Lol.

[@alexc.4557]

They messed it up both ways, if she was a nobody it would send a powerful message of you don't have to be related to someone to be important and if she was a palpatine the message should've been her accepting who she is and not letting her lineage define her which would've worked if she called herself a palpatine at the end

[@Lockn3s5]

@@alexc.4557 Damn. You're right. If she accepted her lineage at the end like that, it would have been great. But they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. They essentially made her a Palpatine and spiritual Skywalker but if she took her family's name at the end at least it would have been more bold as she could give a new meaning to the Palpatine name. What a missed opportunity. Smh

[@Lockn3s5]

@Cara Salusc JJ has stated multiple times how he liked Rian's script so much he wished he had directed it. Idk where you're getting your info from. It sounds like you are just assuming things. Actually a lot of people loved TLJ. It was critically praised. And for all the hate it gets from fans, they wouldn't know what's best for these characters. That's why TRoS sucks so bad. Cause it seems like it was written by the fans. At least Rian was bold enough to actually tell his own unique story.

[@Lockn3s5]

@Cara Salusc That's not how opinions work. You are literally assuming things. I've heard these same complaints a million times before. Mark Hamill is an honest guy. He has since stated only after watching the film that he was wrong and really enjoyed Rian's take on the character after seeing all the elements come together and that he was wrong for his behavior because of exactly what you're doing. Justifying your hatred using his comments. Like I said Hamill is an honest guy. He didn't stop because he was told to. He stopped because his opinion changed. No one shuts Mark Hamill up. Lol. He literally trashed his character throughout the whole process. It wasnt until the film was finished and he watched it that his tune changed. And btw when JJ made the statement about Rian's script, it was way before the film had released and before the fan outrage. And it's not Empire 2. It's influenced by both Empire and RotJ but tells its own unique story about it's characters. He uses those films influences to subvert audience expectations. I'm no blind fanboy. I am very critical of things. We just have differing opinions. Clearly you're one of those fans who thinks your opinion is so rigjt and valid that you have to tell others to stop enjoying something you don't like. That's not how opinions work. That makes you an asshole.

[@samsmith2506]

@@Lockn3s5 Hamill changed his tune because he was TOLD to by his employer. (Disney) end of story. He is an actor. Actors are at the bottom only ahead of the crew in the Film making process. Cara was correct to call you a blind fanboy. JJ is a director.. As such he is only 'one step' above Hamill so the same thing applies.. ie: "Do what Disney tells you to do."

[@neilcuckmann1704]

I like how when Han comes back he says to his son Ben something an old friend once said to him many years ago ‘Maclunky’

[@MBK-LFC]

I took one of my staff to see this as a thank you for being a legend. As soon as the credits rolled I said "I'm so sorry, that was shit", and spent the 15 minute walk home constantly muttering and swearing to myself like a weirdo.

[@pepsififa3205]

Something stupid I thought about was how they keep on insisting that no one will show up in the final battle and they want to make you believe that no one will come help and all I remember was thinking " this is so dumb. It's so obvious someone will come help "

[@mrpink99]

I mean, it was in the trailer FFS

[@casualfanatic4217]

I remember my reaction In the cinema, I looked over to my sister and said “I feel nothing,” and she responded in the most deadpan, Yeah.

[@EzaleaGraves]

​@@casualfanatic4217in Last Jedi they called for help, in Rise of Skywalker they called for help and people came to help. There was 0 difference between the requests. No setup for why people would come help this time. No setup for any "neutral party" finally deciding to join the resistance. It was just... Eh

[@thisguydan]

26:43 My theory is that Ian Mcdiarmid is 75 years old and wouldn't sit in a makeup chair for 4 hours this time around if he came back.

[@DashingPunkSamurai]

I prefer the alternate ending when they ask Rey’s name and she says.....Rey Maclunkey

[@Will_022]

this movie was endgame without the emotional payoff

[@dpangia123]

And without all the force ghosts actually being there on screen. Like the avengers assemble scene. Ending to a 40 year franchise, and they don't even go all out.

[@bigc5090]

Or the amazing action scenes of Endgame

[@arthursneyers6626]

I tought it was a bit strange when jar jar binks showed up, said MACLUNKEY and stabbed palpatine in the back with a lightsaber

[@b0NNb0NN]

now that would be an ending id be happy with

[@MetalSandman999]

Dying Jar Jar: "Rey, help misa take this mask off." Rey: "But you're not wearing one." "Just once, let misa see you with misa own eyes." "You...you already are doing that." "Tell your sister you were right." "What? I have a sister? Who are you?" (Plays soft piano rendition of Imperial March).

[@darcykillen4012]

What is Maclunky?

[@FabulousKilljoy917]

I can’t not picture the gnome whenever Mason or James says “BUT”

[@EasyCure0]

He's the unofficial 4th member of the podcast. It's James, Maso, The Dog, Gnome Butt, then the kid

[@mattym8038]

I thought this film was called Star Wars: Rise of Maklunky.

[@jpmcpheemcphee2695]

"DO THE MANEUVER" "what maneuver?" "THE BUTT...HIT THE BUTTON"

[@avisco01]

Really good, entertaining breakdown guys. I’m a fan. My main problem with the trilogy on the whole, and what becomes apparent in this movie, is a lack of a plan, and reactionary retconny things. I feel like this trilogy is a cautionary tale. Have a destination in mind instead of the pushing and pulling between JJ and Rian Johnson.

[@TheAustralianMapper5378]

What I would’ve done is keep Ben Solo alive and have Rey at the end say I’m just Rey.

[@jkdoorbinnia]

This commentary honestly had me thinking: "I'm so glad I didn't watch this movie"

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

Jealous

[@IMP3TIGO]

Just discovered this today... the best, most entertaining and most "listenable" of the SW reviews. Great points, a fun listen. Great job.

[@mrsundaymovies]

Very much appreciated, thanks for coming on board!

[@oweneastwood2223]

"it's like you murdered someone and then imagined them forgiving you" holy cow that scene is totally different to me now

[@kingdot4677]

sadly I didn’t like it it felt to rushed

[@simonegreco1958]

Agree, the movie moved way too fast and didn’t left time to breathe

[@BaithNa]

Dont feel sad, you didnt make this movie.

[@Matt_Mosley1983]

very

[@hogofarth]

JJ Abrams was rushed, because he had to fix the mess that Rian made with TLJ

[@snmcfadden]

If they took out some of the mcguffin hunting and focused more on characters it could have been decent and felt less rushed.

[@choreomaniac]

So here’s a question very few have asked, let alone answered: how is this trilogy part of the Skywalker Saga? The original three told a focused story: a son redeeming a father while overthrowing and evil empire. The prequels clearly relate because they tell the story of that father. Together, the six movies tell a cohesive story of the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. So far, so good. Emperor Palpatine ties the story together even more as he is the antagonist throughout. But what about the sequels? Rey is clearly the protagonist but she is not related to Luke nor Anakin. Sure, she’s a Jedi and trains under Leia but that hardly qualifies as the same story. Note these are episodes in a single story but I don’t see how the last three episodes relate. It would be like the last episodes of Friends fast-forwarding 30 years, and not starring any of the children of the main cast. This is clearly a soft reboot, not a continuation. Put another way, Rogue One and Solo are “stand-alone” but both are much more closely tied to the OT than the sequels! Indeed Rogue One ends right where Star Wars starts and the protagonist of Solo is the same character as one of the three main characters in this he OT. So how are the sequels, that have none of the same main characters nor is the protagonist related to the main characters of the previous trilogy? If Ben Solo were the central character of the trilogy, then this could be seen as one unified saga. But with Rey it fails because she doesn’t mesningfully continue the Skywalker storyline. They should have just had a separate trilogy with cameos rather than call it an extension. It’s not a sequel but just cashing in on the name.

[@choreomaniac]

@@JRA6192 but that message is totally undermined by her being a Palpatine. She couldn’t be a nobody but had to be descendent from one of the strongest force users ever. And that was the exact same message as the OT but done better. Luke showed that he wasn’t defined by having Vader as a Father. Further, Vader himself could choose good even after all the evil. That’s a far more moving story of redemption and changing your lineage than Rey, who never attempted to redeem Palpatine nor was there a hint that they were related.

[@AarturoSc]

The real answer is that this movies don’t fit the original author’s vision. They don’t fit in the same universe either by merit of in-universe inconsistencies. In these movies Luke is a completely different character with completely different world views, Han Solo went through no character development, the whole galaxy pose no opposition to a new tyrannical order regardless of what they went through during the George Lucas movies, etc. Even the Death Star II is magically in ruins despite being obliterated into dust in the original films, not to mention that even larger chunks of wreckage would have immediately been destroyed upon entering a planet’s atmosphere and the subsequent impact. This are their own movies in their own, nonsensical universe.

[@seamusmcboon558]

Remember, they ret-conned the original trilogy with that crap lego holiday special so now, in official cannon, Rey time traveled and popped into Luke's x-wing during the battle of Yavin and convinced him to listen to Obi-Wan and use the force. I wish I was joking.

[@jatabo1574]

@@seamusmcboon558 ...Come again?

[@Dezzyyy]

@@seamusmcboon558 that's not official Canon lmao

[@jinghengchia2201]

Watching the documentary for the making of TROS confirms my speculation of the mentality of JJ and the writer's group. Very often you see them go, "you see this in TFA, we want to continue that, but we need to make it compatible with TLJ." And that I think is the main reason why the plot threads in TROS do not follow well from TLJ. Instead of picking up the gauntlet thrown down by TLJ and taking up the challenge, they stepped back and tried going the safe route.

[@lordprettyflackoskillz3575]

Felt like the Palpatine thing ruined it for me entirely

[@du6167]

Which one of the multiple "Palpatine things" in this movie?

[@uhoh6706]

Him coming back or Rey committing identity theft

[@lordprettyflackoskillz3575]

@@uhoh6706 his coming back

[@mayeastrise]

Same, I saw the opening scroll and was like “really”? Never really got into the movie after that

[@jellybabyman961]

The movie would have been largely better if Palpatine and all things related to him weren't in it

[@motivelacking]

Masons delivery on "Just tip the stardestroyer to one side I reckon" Is so damn good.

[@frishf8888]

I feel like Finn was completely wasted as well as Poe's character arc being stretched way too thin, I think if they had killed Poe off (in a world where multi-film contracts don't exist to maximize action figure sales) at some point early on in The Last Jedi, or even towards the end of The Force Awakens, Finn would have been able to have taken Poe's place in The Last Jedi and maybe would have had anything to do in The Rise Of Skywalker

[@peaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

i think they did wanna kill poe but oscar issac didnt wanna play another character who dies in the movie so they kept him alive

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

I agree on Poe being wasted, but Finn was a completely irrelevant character from conception.

[@Austroid]

I heard there was a deleted orgy scene with the Snoke clones. Too bad it was cut for time.

[@sunriseparrabellum5505]

GravSuitGeek honestly the only reason I saw this movie was to see snoke clap some clone cheeks and I was severely disappointed

[@fightthepowerman]

@@sunriseparrabellum5505 it would have cost $0 for you to not say this

[@ethanwilkins5001]

Yeah FBI, this comment here.

[@ethanwilkins5001]

@@sunriseparrabellum5505 I audibly cackled reading this lol. I feel like I'd be friends with you irl based on that reply.

[@sunriseparrabellum5505]

Ethan Wilkins glad to hear that man, I lost all my irl friends for this exact comment

[@BobbyRoberts-v9x]

It's very strange to me that in The Last Jedi they make the supreme leader, only to say actually Palpatine is the big bad.

[@kurtisspottedbear4654]

I thought in last jedi the master code breaker was going to be Lando

[@russellharrell2747]

Kurtis Spottedbear Lobot. Have you seen his dance moves?!

[@earthstar7534]

Marry Christmas! Nothing anyone did in star wars mattered and everyone died for nothing. Palpatine wins🤦‍♀️

[@n1h1luss61]

earth star ik

[@simonegreco1958]

“I give meaning to things only if they have ever-lasting consequences” sounds like a depressing philosophy

[@earthstar7534]

@@simonegreco1958 yeah, the resistance didn't save the galaxy. Palpatine lived and there was mass destabilization and chaos after leaving a power vacuum palpatine himself filled to once again be a tyrant. Everyone died for pretty much nothing. Darth Vader's sacrifice didn't matter, everyone still lost. Palpatine still killed his son. This movie retconned the whole series to be a lesson in futility not a triumph.

[@simonegreco1958]

earth star that is kinda like saying everything the WW1 soldiers did didn’t matter because of WW2

[@earthstar7534]

@@simonegreco1958 ww1 inadvertently caused ww2 so yeah, the way it was handled caused the rise of the Nazis and mass genocide. They all literally died for nothing over a dispute between a couple of power hungry people. We should take lessons not to repeat the mistakes. If they are repeated then the losses were for nothing.

[@PenguinofD00mxxx]

Palpatine made Snoke, ok fine. Palpatine was in control the whole time, ok fine. Palpatine is surprised by the strength of Rey and Kylo's force connection even though Snoke said that he helped establish the connection to draw Rey in, HOW DOES PALPATINE NOT KNOW ABOUT IT IF HE WAS IN CONTROL THE ENTIRE TIME.

[@bruhmieter5688]

@bruce wayne okay I guess we don't know... What's wrong with that we'll probably find out

[@bruhmieter5688]

Palpatine has tried to make force dyads before and tried with vader so it's fair to say he was skeptical.

[@PenguinofD00mxxx]

@@bruhmieter5688 yeah, except again, he "was" snoke, snoke directly comments on the strength of their connection, comments that he, Snoke(Palpatine) was responsible for the connection, and even points out its uniqueness. But you're saying even though Palpatine knew all that he still was "skeptical"? More like the force Dyad didnt exist until they made it up for the last movie, and forgot that Palpatine should already be aware of it based on their own explanation in the previous and current film about how the Dyad was established, which as it specifically mentions, is due to Snoke, who Palpatine says he "was Snoke", meaning he should know. Sorry, but the JJ script for TRoS is confirmed to have been a last minute rewrite for the last film after they removed the original director, Ian McDermit was not contacted in any way shape or form to reprise the role of Palpatine until 3 months after JJ Abrams was put back in charge. They never, at any point, planned the trilogy, and never planned on adding Palpatine back in. It was an afterthought as they were scrambling to come up with something, and it fits so terribly in the trilogy because of plot points like the Dyad that have no connection to the wider Lore, and are even inconsistently explained within the film, and of wait, they don't explain it in the film, you'd have to go buy the novelization. Another confirmation that they didnt properly think abou their plot points and had to recon aspects of TLJ. Edit: the link to the interview with Ian that confirms he was not contacted to reprise the role before JJ was put in charge of Episode 9: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn2zZ3WBj8urbLM Here is a link to the draft of Duel of the Fates, where Palpatine was not part of the story, further evidence that Palpatine was not part of the trilogy's story from the beginning, or before JJ Abrams was given control of episode 9: www.reddit.com/r/Screenwriting/comments/f5tb40/colin_trevorrows_star_wars_ep_9_duel_of_the_fates/?

[@bruhmieter5688]

@@PenguinofD00mxxx what makes you think he didn't know about it commenting on something isn't proof he didn't get them together until now and who's to say he wasn't just happy. So what they removed the last director because he was crap at his job. It hasn't been confirmed to be last minute sorry to break that to you buddy I can tell you were very triggered by that sentence. Once again so.. 3 months this is some illuminati shit. Wow you want a straightforward plan didn't know you hated the original trilogy. Damn were you the director they kicked out. The dyads pretty simple to understand a connection through the force that's literally it sorry if that's so hard for you. There's a difference between retcon and ignore which you shills clearly don't get.

[@陳潔明-w6y]

@@bruhmieter5688 "Last director because he was crap..." At this point, he's the least worst...

[@jackdailey5238]

I’ve never once said “What” out loud to a movie till I saw them land in the pit of quick sand

[@jreddoch1]

The so-called Holdo maneuver is the most realistic battle tactic used in real life. Kamikazes in WWII, burning ships crashing into other ships during Spanish Armada by Elizabeth, etc. Also used to accidentally take down the Executor (Vader's ship) in ROTJ. It can be effective but is not a great strategy except as a surprise last-ditch effort.

[@Brook11223]

Kylo Rens death did feel ambiguous towards the end. Did Leia somehow link her life force with her son's leading to him saving Rey, dying immediately like her mother.

[@aaarjs]

no thats not it lol, what happened is he used all of his "life" force to heal rey and in doing so killed him

[@memebo1922]

He's a force ghost now. That's the reward for allowing balance to the force. Obi wan allowing the gang to escape. Yoda for training luke. Anakin for defeating the emperor. Leia for commanding the fleet and for getting kylo not to kill rey and finally ben for using all his will to bring rey back to life

[@qqqfuzion2582]

I took it as, he used up the majority of his life force to heal rey, then sacrificed himself to bring him and his mother to the force, as leia wasn't trained to do this.

[@SantaFishes101]

I feel like Leia didn't want to leave until her journey was over...and when he died, it was finished.

[@deanrichard1770]

I saw it as she was using her last life juice to keep him alive and then he transferred that life juice to rey

[@2682shark]

Honestly my Star Wars story starts with Revenge of the Sith and ends with Return of the Jedi... everything else, I could do without

[@corvus2512]

Mine starts with the clone wars tv show, skips the prequels and ends with TFA. So sad that they didnt do the basics of sitting their creatives down in one room and have them come up with one story told over 3 films. Its literally the bare minimum of a trilogy

[@TheJakeSeale]

I can at least sit through Attack of the Clones to get the set up for The Clone Wars, then stop at The Mandalorian

[@moffitron5727]

I watch the clone wars, revenge of the sith, the orig trig, and then mandolorian

[@Сайтамен]

It's not fair. Revenge of the Sith doesn't work without Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.

[@DarrenNoFun]

Jj Abrams kept this one true to the originals... With incest.

[@powwowken2760]

"No garbage on christmas!" *talking about Rise of Skywalker* Um.... You have a very different concept of garbage then most people

[@jimofthenorth8090]

Yes. I audibly "Noped" in the cinema when she said Skywalker at the end.

[@leolegionlion890]

The lightsaber-soundwaves look great! Could you guys try more active stuff like this in the podcast?

[@matthewaguilar7849]

I liked the idea that she was nobody born with great power that decides to do right for the good of the galaxy because she can, not she does good because she doesn’t wanna be like her family

[@namecomingsoon9517]

Last jedi: Rey’s parents aren’t special and they are no one Rise of Skywalker: Rey’s dad is Palpatine’s son

[@traktor420]

This reads like a bad oc ‘She’s the daughter of palpatine’s son and she’s better then everyone at everything with no training’

[@tycopeman4771]

Yeah, it's definitely the worst. It's like if Spiderman went up against Green Goblin, killed him.. and then Spiderman 2 went into how the Green Goblin came to be... and then in Spiderman 3... it was Sandman all movie, and then at the end of the movie it was actually Green Goblin who created Sandman. Does that sound like out of the box thinking & writing to anyone? Absolute trash.

[@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures]

Force Lightning, Choke, Scissors... Jedi: "Poor predictable Palpatine. Always going for Lightning." Palpatine: "Good old Lightning! Nothing beats that!"

[@j4242]

Should have seen the writing on the wall when JJ brought CT on. Also, when they incorporated Fortnite in the marketing. Very telling right there. Oy. If you just HAD to bring The Emperor back, he still could have wanted Rey just because she was super powerful, OR because Kylo/Ben and/or Rey have equal light/dark he could continue to try to pit the 2 against each other and then want to take the victor, but Rey and Ben could have turn the tables against him together....OR they could have HEALED the Emperor ...so many more interesting ways to do it. We needed more Ben. In my theater, cheers when they kissed, groans when Ben died and when Rey said "Skywalker."

[@cashewfruit4656]

I would not use China’s box office as a “Normal” box office without nostalgia. I mean all transformers movies do great over there, all of them. Like really well

[@anthonylogiudice9215]

Because China finances those films.

[@du6167]

I wouldn't. China has a completely different taste in movies compared to the West. A lot of places don't have the nostalgic factor, yet they still enjoy Star Wars.

[@transsexual_computer_faery]

because they like robots and they're also horrible people (idk tho)

[@gruntpocalypsenow]

Besides bumblebee, the only decent one, which did poorly. Ironic

[@mariokarter13]

Is Disney really making money with Star Wars? Let's do the math. $4 billion to buy it + The Force Awakens Budget: $306M + Rogue One Budget: $265M + The Last Jedi Budget: $317M + Solo Budget: $300M + The Rise of Skywalker Budget: $275M = $5.463 billion Box Office: $2B + $1B + $1.3B + $393M + $517M(so far) = $5.21 Billion. That's not even factoring marketing costs. They haven't even broke even yet.

[@mitchellhorton9382]

The way I read the Holdo Maneuver is that it's actually pretty tricky because 1. you need a large ship to have a far enough hyper-jump window to reach a ship they're not practically touching 2. It only works at a specific range/angle/against ships too large to move out of the way 3. They didn't know it would work 4. She didn't write down any of the math so nobody knows exactly how it was done

[@chompythebeast]

All you have to do is activate a ship's hyperdrive while it's pointed at another ship from a distance you probably can't miss. Even if you do miss, you could presumably come back around and try again. It's a ludicrously simple maneuver that no amount of in-universe logic could backtrack. It doesn't require more math or calculations than a regular jump, in fact it takes less since you're not even concerned with colliding with anything down the way like normal. And there's no reason, given the laws of physics, that it shouldn't work, but even if there were doubts, they now know for certain it can. It makes no sense why _all_ Star Wars combat doesn't just involve launching 1 pound weights at hyperspeed at any ship you want to destroy. Just build the smallest hyperdrives you can possibly build, put them on dummy ships that can be remotely controlled, and use them as torpedos that could blow up small planets. Put thousands of them in a Star Destroyer's bay rather than silly fighters with people in them: It'd be cheaper, easier, and _far_ more effective. Introducing that kind of logic to the fantasy space universe just makes all the "Wars" in Star Wars seem absolutely ridiculous and just plain stupid. They should not have muddied the fiction's waters with that kind of obvious real-world logic

[@TheJammerman]

The ending would have been better if she said “my name is Ray Winstone” and then tears off a mask like in the mission impossible films and reveals that it’s just been Ray Winstone doing all that stuff the whole time.

[@jaspernelson1861]

while i was in hospital recovering from a broken neck and shoulder at the start of this month. I spent so much of my time finally listening to your weekly planet podcast and I've got to give you a huge thank you for that xxx

[@mrsundaymovies]

Holy hell Jasper that sounds terrible! At least you had the broken neck and shoulder to distract you from the podcast. Got em.

[@null6634]

​@@mrsundaymovies I've been listening to your podcasts while at work tp distract me from work and from basically all current news. I'm definitely looking forward to the day I can spend some time recovering from a major surgery, so I can concentrate on your podcast. Keep up the good work boys.

[@iRenz0]

Emperor: I am all the sith Rey: And I am....Ironman Emperor: wait wha- ⚡️⚡️⚡️😱😱😱💀💀☠️☠️

[@MALICEM12]

"I am the Senate!"