Muay Thai vs Wing Chun Sparring

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[@SifuNate]

Great sparring with you again bro!!! Glad we got to do this sequel with kicks and more trapping! Always fun and interesting to see how we move and apply our styles together.

[@ilovecteasy582]

That was embarrassing you didn't check or block any kick you have no defence 😂 making wing Chun look bad once again. Jeff chan could knock you out anytime he want. You literally got surprised when Jeff just jabbed you showing you have don't have good experience. No one should learn from you, fraud. Don't call yourselfa Sifu. Pisses me off to know that people actually learn from this fraud

[@MMAShredded]

thanks for the good work Sifu nate! until next time!!!

[@konkyolife]

Wing Chun is great to learn from for Muay Thai clinching! More people need to know this.

[@PaMuShin]

@@MMAShredded nice work on your sweeps jeff, keep it up

[@PaMuShin]

some of your kicks could have injured Jeff pretty heavy, although the liver kick seems to be some long term weakness of jeff

[@Shojushoju]

Glad you listened to the feedback and let Sifu Nate wear MMA gloves. It looks like the Savate style doubling up of side and front kicks worked pretty well for him.

[@MMAShredded]

cheers!

[@VTLille]

Much respect to Nate for stepping in there with you. I feel like he was often (due to your footwork and distance management) overextended with the rear hand down, which left him open to your counters.

[@MMAShredded]

osss!

[@PaMuShin]

i think nate did a pretty good job there for his age

[@MartialArtsMoves]

*Yep, that's why JKD has an advantage over Wing Chun, cause it helps with distance control.*

[@BMO_Creative]

DUDE! This sparring looks like a karate movie! You and Nate have VERY different styles, but standing toe to toe! Great stuff!

[@MMAShredded]

oss!

[@WilliamRodgers]

So far the best I've seen online👍

[@ives3572]

Great sparring sessions, lots of combos and techniques to be learned

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@ScottFlear117]

Jeff - you went easy on him! But allowed him to show his style. Kudos.

[@dracolich345]

Jeff I really love how you can travel across the world entering all these dojos with respect to unpack the knowledge and share with us. Incredible work 🎉🎉🎉

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!!

[@rackinfrackinvarmint]

Every time I watch a video about Wing Chun it falls apart so fast. Where has this guy been this whole time?! Nate is the man, thank you for showing functional Wing Chun! Looks great. As always, your videos are awesome Jeff. Thanks!

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Also look for Mark Phillips!! His Wing Chun ain't falling apart! He's a bit old now tho and won't be sparring a whole lot, very sad

[@MMAShredded]

Sifu nate is awesome!

[@jovanleon7]

It's called JKD. That's exactly what Bruce Lee did, made Wing Chun functional and effective. The problem is they were going 50%. Next time they should wear head gears and vests and go 80-90% because JKD's true prowess is in timing, precision and speed.

[@NairJKD]

Jeff you a real one for training with sifu nate and helping him get better! i had a friend who did the same for me. I do jkd and he did muay thai and boy did his thai techniques make my technique 10 times better. You are a real one jeff and that’s why i love your vids. Keep ‘em up, they are appreciated

[@MMAShredded]

thanks man :)

[@josiah5842]

I’ve waited this video for a while and it did not disappoint! You both are my favorite Martial Artists and I’ve learned so much from both of you!

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!!!

[@cringusmoss9937]

You can really see the advantages of Jeff's insane conditioning as the fight continues. Props to Nate for keeping it up the entire time! I love seeing each fighter adapt as the session continues. After getting his feet knocked around so many times nate turning a lead leg kick into a pendulum step into side kick was so cool.

[@MMAShredded]

osss!

[@KAZE0707]

Jeff sir went from not believing in Karate to blending Karate aspects in his fighting style, Great Work Sir ❤

[@MMAShredded]

oss!

[@PaMuShin]

but jeff still lets his opponents run into him and stops although trying to use tai sabaki methods, usually the body moving methods(tai sabaki) are much more compact in kung fu as in karate, jeff still is wasting a lot of energy

[@Ben10Blader]

When you're a conditioned athlete like Jeff it's okay to "waste" energy sometimes@@PaMuShin

[@bertt1055]

@@PaMuShinthis is sparring - Jeff is obviously holding back. If you have watched his other videos where he dials things up towards rude opponents, no one walks over him easily, if at all. This vid is a training session between friends. Not about winning.

[@PaMuShin]

@@bertt1055 So it would hurt your feelings, if nate had the skill to send jeff into hospital if both had the same weight? Jeff is still improving it is fine. If he were a kung fu killer like you imagine, he would not have needed a bodyguard for his head movement videos, where he challenged people on the street.

[@jessespurgeon]

Beautiful sparing 🥋

[@MMAShredded]

thanks!!

[@metalslug97]

Awesome video, Jeff. Super interesting to see two different styles clash because it really shows to me how no style is better than the other, but how each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Asymmetrical stances really push the frontiers of thinking.

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@sum_andres31]

Really interesting to see Jkd in an athletic practitioner. It is not often that you are able to see that. Hope to see more sparring with Sifu.

[@MMAShredded]

oss!

[@jerrydmann]

Excellent video. Great breakdowns and great work on both of your parts showcasing different art forms in practice

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!

[@user-je2ef8dk5h]

Hey Jeff, Thanks for yet another great Sparring Video, and your MMA/Muay Thai style vs Wing Chun is a dream match up! You and and Sifu Nate are so well matched: Both of you have that persistant forward intention of attacking each other's attacks (each with your own fluid combinations), and your evasive ever-changing footwork made it difficult!cult for Nate to apply his close quarter WC techniques. However, very refreshing to see a WC practitioner effectively apply sidekicks and front kicks to "stop" or check an on-rushing opponent. Bravo guys and keep up the great work...!👍👍👍

[@MMAShredded]

thanks man!!!!

[@corrugatedcavalier5266]

Nice session! Great stuff from both of you and love your commentary.

[@MMAShredded]

thanks!!

[@CopperheadCustoms]

Saw alot of very nicely executed Wing Chun techniques in there, very nice sparring session from you both

[@MMAShredded]

oss!

[@michaeljam4818]

Jeff you are the reason I train Martial arts and you’re always a true inspiration 🔥❤️ I wish you all the best and cant wait for Usdc2💥

[@MMAShredded]

:) thanks!

[@NexusJunisBlue]

Great breakdown! Thanks for sharing, and thank you for continuing to keep an open mind and explore Chinese martial arts! Happy New Year! 🙂

[@MMAShredded]

happy new year brother!!

[@ZeusEBoy]

Amazing video, was a lot of fun to watch and learn from. Both did a great job, so good work too. Keep it up brothers. Happy to see that wing chun working too. Jeff is a good mma fighter so I feel like his head movement and slip helped a lot to not get trapped and pressured as much vs even Muay Thai he had more trouble countering because of limiting himself

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!!!

[@andrewlee3981]

Always putting out awesome videos. Much thanks. Keep up the amazing work.

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!

[@danteeudora6330]

I love this! I'm the only guy I know who regularly incorporates wingchun into his sparring, so it's fascinating to see someone else not only do it but do it in high level, intelligent sparring like this. 👍👍👍

[@jamesfurness5355]

Loved watching this video..& Great commentary 👏 with No bias.. great job to both fighters 👏👏👏

[@MMAShredded]

thx!!

[@edmondlau511]

This is a great way to start the weekend. Two of my favorite KZbin channels. Hope you guys went out for dinner afterwards.

[@MMAShredded]

:) we did!

[@AuthenticShaolin]

Excellent vid again 🤙🤙🤙🙏. Great to see you working with many different styles, utilizing, and evolving 🤙🤙🤙💥

[@MMAShredded]

thank you shi fu as always!!

[@andrewmk8514]

Thank you for letting your partner explain what he was doing! Great to hear both perspectives! All technique, not power. Great sparring and sharing.

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@OverSooll]

You show us that sparring has endless possibilities, amazing and inspiring

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@shogunhua7746]

Jeff your head movement and footwork are next level 👏

[@MMAShredded]

thanks man!

[@DirectorHMAN]

As someone who used to train kickboxing and JKD this was such an amazing watch. 👏

[@one4theditch38]

Stumbled on this, glad I did, sir. new subscriber!!

[@alexledger2406]

I love this sparring videos when you face a stile to another different, congrats jeff, did the "best tactics used by" video series will come back?

[@MMAShredded]

I make short videos on tactics used by fighters but it is getting tough to do full videos as most fighters use the same techniques. I can really only make a full video if a fighter is very very unique/different!

[@bigc5630]

Gents, that was a joy to watch, thank you both!

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!

[@lancepanics2996]

what is up with you and this incredible influx of content? I feel like you're posting so much recently and it's SO nice to see i love watching your vids all the time

[@MMAShredded]

thank you man :))

[@LightGlyphRasengan]

Love the sparring and giving all styles a chance to shine and show their capabilities

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@shinomori69]

Really cool sparring session! Looks like Nate seems dangerous in the middle distance but you were better at long range and in the clinch. Really cool both ways.

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@ashleyalexander7388]

Great stuff as always. great to see it nice and controlled.

[@MMAShredded]

thanks!!

[@desamster]

Great channel! Thanks sifus Jeff and Nate 👍💪

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!

[@philliplanos]

My favorite part of this video in the second round you can see Nate begin to incorporate feints and generally show adaptation based on the additional techniques and styles Jeff began to insert into his movements. Excellent because it's educational but also because it's celebrates martial arts as a whole instead of throwing politics into the mix.

[@robertsmartialartsjourney2219]

Thanks for sharing this amazing exchange, as a Wing Chun Practioner as well, really glad to see someone modernaize Wing Chun into more adabtable modern style sparring, very inspiring. Both did a great job and be able to learn alot.

[@MMAShredded]

oss!

[@zacharywong483]

Super great breakdown and commentary here!

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!!

[@gosunflower]

Nice spar and breakdown, would love to see more

[@MMAShredded]

thanks!!

[@AK41]

Great vid, good display from Sifu Nate using WC application in live sparring against Muay Thai. Controlled and fun sparring is always the best for improvement amongst both partners

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@RodSpeak11]

That was awesome. Love to see different fighting styles in action.

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!!

[@Grizzscratch]

I saw the pros and cons of both art, which was great. Learned a lot from this video

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@justinsnow3979]

Sweet video as always man! Have you ever met or practiced/sparred with a good Chen tai chi practitioner?

[@titusespinoza5310]

That was fun to watch! Nice work brothers!

[@MMAShredded]

Thank you!

[@hunterlogan2913]

Great lively sparring! Agressiveness while showing control ~

[@MMAShredded]

Thanks !

[@Gscr3780]

Awesome vid nice work

[@rich_green_9610]

Man your fight IQ is insane bro! 🤌🏽

[@MMAShredded]

thx!!

[@swang2489]

I love watching your sparring videos. I always think people put too much emphasis on which discipline is better. You show you have to adapt to what the opponent is doing and working on basics of using footwork, feints and movement no matter what discipline you study is more important than strictly sticking to just muay thai or just kung fu. I studied kung fu and always would be annoyed when people put it down. Even though within kung fu there are different styles I think there is more emphasis on movement, quickness and trickiness than some other martial arts. Whereas other martial arts tend to emphasize more defense or more power.

[@MMAShredded]

thanks man!!

[@justaname935]

this one was way more interesting! Love it! I watched Nate when he must have been a kid can't believe this is reality

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@perfecto25]

Jeffs head movement is insane. Absolute master class

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!

[@kenmasters6438]

your control is remarkable! you stopped so many punches and kicks right as it's tucking him.

[@MMAShredded]

thanks!!!!

[@siberiantiger1975]

You are such a gentleman mr. Chan, thx for the video 🙂🙌

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@hwowownkyouma8702]

nice, amazing as always jeff and nate is on DEMON TIME here

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@XinoMbr]

Very gentle strike, since he was completetly defenceless... amazing

[@raphael_2d878]

Dude, Sifu Nate is insane. The fact that you can spar with him and look good while doing it... DAMN. Respect.

[@MMAShredded]

osss

[@JC3H]

Sifu Nate has a background in TKD before he trained in wing chun? I remember his old videos (more than 5 years ago) were on teaching high kicks. It’s great to see you both collab !

[@MMAShredded]

osss!

[@hifta7]

Great video! Hope you'll try once against Kyokushin Karate👌

[@MMAShredded]

thanks!!!

[@TheBlidget]

Really awesome to see Sifu Nate do well here. His videos were part of the reason I got into JKD and his past recent sparring videos had him looking a little rusty. Homie looked good here! Nice rounds dudes

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@Taniwha123]

Great forward intention with the blasts Sifu..and yes you have to scatter your combinations, not chain punch in one spot..great Wing Chun

[@MMAShredded]

oss!

[@ScoobyDoo-kt9pv]

Hey y'all! That's what got me into wing Chun was that feeling of "oh no, I have to fight far away from this person." I like Kung Fu and boxing and feel better about your great diverse skills both of you the more you cross styles so multiple styles get the limelight. My JKD wing Chun is a bit more street brawl, but I really personally love Kung Fu but Thai is very loved for the skill. I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it but those kicks were all dangerous from both opponents. Side kicks are usually either super easy on you or the worst kick to be hit with (broken bones ribs etc) and leg kicks and mid round house hurt and mid roundhouse can break things. Low kick is very painful I grin and bear it and like to counter too it's a very difficult thing to train.

[@tylerroberts8306]

Hey Jeff I’m looking into finding a gym that training in mma if you could watch my sparring clips at egw fighting

[@carlweezer1908]

Great video as always Jeff do you ever plan on fighting again? Just curious

[@MMAShredded]

thanks man! unfortunately ONE doesnt pay you enough for it to be worth it, so that is where I am at with fighting

[@pablotzuarbenisrael9916]

great spar... and i would like to see you and togo ishii spar that would be good..

[@igargari]

For nate, was just mostly the pak sao and punch used? Was there other block and punch like bong sau used? It seems like in most sparring for WC guys its only pak sau being used?

[@enochdarkk7871]

Ive seen Wing Chun use clinch and knees when they get inside because most ppl duck their heads to avoid those machine gun punches.. What I like about their style is the pace and the barrages.. but it was always designed to setup a power shot.. daze / overwhelm the opponent than land your best punch / kick which is what I rarely see in these wing chun videos.

[@anthonyt219]

Bruce lee did say that when most of chinas kung fu masters went to fight against muay thai fighters, only one style seemed to do well against the thais which was choy li fut, not wing chun. And then choy li fut influenced the creation of sanda which is basically kickboxing mixed with kung fu grappling or take downs and kicks.

[@richx5064]

Good job OP. I would like to see you vs a traditional Japanese karate style. Muay Thai vs Karate would be a great video.

[@MMAShredded]

got one coming!!

[@richx5064]

@@MMAShredded Great. I would like to see a karate man use these traditional blocks on you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ponOqmyfa5WIkLs

[@aia8955]

I smell viral content💯💯 (good work Jeff)

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!

[@ibrahimkapadia5704]

As fas as I know and experienced, you're the only professional martial artist who answers everyone. Thankyou sir Q: why there are long combinations in boxing? My opponent will not go according to my long combination! I have seen floyd, Dimitry bivol and other boxers practicing long combos of 12 to 20 Punches combined with head movement Please sir explain me why to learn such long combos

[@MMAShredded]

I will throw long combos on the pads or bad to develop flow fluidity and cardio. Long combos are used when you have your opponent rocked and you're going for the finish. Or if you just feel you can overwhelm and bully your opponent from the start because they have no defense!

[@ibrahimkapadia5704]

@@MMAShredded thankyou sir for your valuable time ❤️ Thankyou for answering my question ❤️ we all are really blessed to have you on KZbin channel

[@dominicperez4341]

Can you post more home workouts

[@mexicovillage]

conclusion is that more you spar more you get experience and cleverness in fight...the wing chun guy does not seem to have a lot experience in sparing but we can notice that the difference between round 1 and round 2.. in round 2 wing chun guy developps more understanding of situation and developp more tactics

[@abdeslamsefrioui6073]

What are these shin pads you use please ?

[@jordanmurray4061]

%100 would spar either of you guys, looks too fun!

[@chrisprad8325]

He’s improved since your guys last sparring session

[@MMAShredded]

yeah!!!!

[@algore3462]

I noticed WC practitioners often get surprised by the leg-sweeps from MT... puts the WC fighter in an immediate disadvantage when he/she actually falls

[@christerabanilla4147]

Now jkd movements is on progress only i missing in his movements his head movements and the distance and timing

[@bertt1055]

Freaking awesome skills from both of you! But looks like Nate was going 80% intensity and Jeff you were going 70% haha.. hope this friendship goes on forever. Love the vids. Jeff, you adapt and flow like the authentic philosophy behind JKD even though you don’t train in JKD. ❤

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!!!

[@woodstockcarrie]

I loved this sparring. Today I only do muay thai, but I came from kung-fu. One thing I always feel about wing chun is that it looks very strong if it comes at close range without the opponent expecting it. It seems very effective to me in a real close-range defense situation.

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@temuridturkmughal3330]

Where are you located?

[@dirtpoorchris]

As someone that likes to grab wrists and win with elbows, I can confirm grappling with boxing gloves is a billion times harder. But can kinda also train your long arm deflections i guess where you stuff a punch with your forearm?

[@KevinLeeVlog]

So gooooooooood!!!!

[@MMAShredded]

:)

[@davetozin9502]

Hey Jeff, are you also doing in person training in karate as well? Or do you just research different concepts with in karate and apply it to your arsenal?

[@MMAShredded]

I learn karate through watching haha

[@PaMuShin]

@@MMAShredded hey jeff, why then not watching the video on youtube >>空手道おとこ道　山崎照朝

[@SilverC3ll]

Dear Jeff, I hope I may share my humble thoughts with you. This video is a respectable demonstration that TMA can indeed be effective. I always say: TMA were developed in ancient times when MA were used in life or death scenarios -- wars have been waged with them; one cannot get away with an impractical mindset and produce methods that our contemporary world misunderstands as superfluous or "flowery." Chinese martial arts took a tremendous hit when made illegal and persecuted during the cultural revolution, and modern schools usually do not teach combat-oriented (absenting/being scarce in sparring). From Jesse Enkamp's Karate Nerd channel, I seem to remember that Karate lost much of its original capacity due to adaptations to a sports-like competitive environment. Hence, I often feel the traditional arts are not represented in their original capacity in our modern day. Who knows how the old masters fought? In the video "Kung Fu is 90% Wrestling " by Rokus (Martial Arts Journey) he demonstrates Kung Fu contains much grappling/wrestling, where it is often accused to lack such methods. Similarly, on his channel the MMA/boxing gentle giant Ramsey Dewey accounts for having been defeated by an eighty-year-old Chen Tai Chi master, explaining this is actually a grappling art. Apparently, and according to my own experience, much of the martial applications have been forgotten due to the erosions of time: legal banishment, persecution, unfortunate choices in adaptation to a sports-environment, and perhaps modernisation in general. Having seen the post-cultural revolution world of China, where religion and martial arts were banished and persecuted, one can easily detect, and is indeed reputed in religious circles, to have lost much of its quality. Monks giving in to alcohol, walking up to prostitutes, greedily selling their arts to unexpecting foreigners, giving in to discrimination, and being all but meditative. Who now knows what it means to be a professional meditator but also a martial artist? Who now can represent the professional yogi who is also a warrior? Whenever the internal aspect is mentioned, it saddens me it is received with derision and a foreordained form of scepticism.

[@MMAShredded]

I agree!! thanks for sharing your knowledge and perspective!

[@rocelderamos3013]

6:27 Jeff definitely felt that one even though it wasn't a 100% power side kick. 😂

[@MMAShredded]

yes!

[@astonprice-lockhart7261]

Most traditional forms of combat had a tendency to overwhelm there opponents because they weren't doing this for rounds. This doesn't mean they didn't condition. Low kicks and sweeps were favored especially stomps to the feet, shin, knee and thigh. This way it was a lot harder to be off balanced, have your leg caught or have your own leg stomped out. I'm just saying this as analysis. These preferences were found in almost all forms of combat. Finally there was no culture that did not have wrestling because it was expected for you to possibly have to get close to your opponent. More similarities than differences. Thank you for another great video!

[@MMAShredded]

thanks for watching!!!

[@lakraknjeprak2536]

i love when he actually blocked muay khao technique (knee to your ribcage) usually thailand dude just take it head on and hope their rib won't break.

[@ericdealsb971]

Just curious. Jeff do you have long reach for someone your height? I feel like that long check hook over the top of the cross are tough to land clean with the shorter arms. Yes?

[@MMAShredded]

it can be but it is a good way to get your opponent to respect your space and back away! try palm down as well to make it longer

[@jasonwang7028]

One thing I’ve noticed a lot is that in the fighting styles that do more sparring or rolling, there’s a lot more in-the-moment strategizing going on compared to traditional martial arts that don’t spar. A lot of mental going on. I don’t think that’s emphasized nearly enough

[@jackreacher6758]

Thank you both. It seems to me that Jeff had better cardio ?

[@MMAShredded]

no prob!!

[@raphael_2d878]

That was so much better than the last one.

[@MMAShredded]

oss!

[@SuperNontheist]

Good stuff!

[@MMAShredded]

thanksss :)

[@GameleiraNoChao]

Great sparring video as always. Was insightful to hear your commentary as well. Kudos to you both you and Nate!

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!

[@hitanshsingh594]

Really, a superb video....👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@MMAShredded]

thank you!

[@mrh4nma]

Amazing buddy

[@MMAShredded]

thanks!

[@vaughncassidy5242]

I have been considering buying cricket gloves to use when applying trapping principles in sparring. What do you think?

[@sephy980]

You may as well just buy some nice hybrid gloves. Cricket gloves arent made for sparring and probably wouldnt hold up, not to mention they more than likely have rough surfaces and edges that could cut people up or scratch their eyes. Theres cheap ones available online if budget is a concern.

[@MMAShredded]

never heard of cricket gloves!

[@vaughncassidy5242]

@@MMAShredded Gloves you wear when playing the game of Cricket. Also the leg guards are great too. :)

[@wemersomdasilvacaruso994]

Can anyone tell me if judo and freestyle wrestling have a big difference when it comes to defending against muay thai clinch? And even if the difference is big, to what extent would a freestyle wrestler be able to at least not get knocked out if caught in a well-placed muay thai clinch? And the judoka, what is the chance of him being knocked out in this type of clinch?