My $500 Hobby Tool Regret - I Messed Up | Iwata Airbrush, Kimera Paints, + More

[@LylaMev]

Give me your spiciest product opinion

[@spilbobaggins]

The more brands of paint I own the better painter I am. That's how it works, right? Right??? *looks nervously at paint racks*

[@LylaMev]

@@spilbobaggins 100%

[@isaacbenrubi9613]

In my opinion, it's best to find a brand of paint and stick to it. You can make pretty much any color you could want with the right mixing, plus, going between brands can cause issues due to viscosity, glossiness, and other things. Having a ton of tools is fun, but sticking to your best, most comfortable tools will be better in the long run.

[@philurbaniak1811]

My spiciest opinion? Nuln Oil doesn't look good 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@weekendminis]

Spiciest product opinion - “personal massagers” are quieter, easier to use, and take up less desk space than vortex mixers.. might not be KZbinr friendly though

[@andreawille4162]

I have a relatively heavy and very stable desk. And my vortex mixer just makes a quiet humm. No vibrations going through the desk at all. And I wouldn't want to ever miss that particular piece of hobby-equipment ever again. So useful for shaking up my paints, I consider it one of my best hobby investments.

[@gi1dor]

Same for me. I have a different vortex mixer and it's very quiet and compact (no those legs) and I feel that it is worth every penny, unlike my old cheap vortex mixer. It just mixes paints better and faster than I do manually (in both cases use agitators)

[@RedShirtNPC]

Ditto this. My extra paint bottles are right next to my Vortex, and they don’t even move. I’d replace mine immediately if it broke!

[@jamesn2830]

Agreed. It’s a must own for heavily pigmented washes (contrast, speed paint) cause they separate really badly

[@briangray2390]

I know vortexers professionally as a laboratory biologist. There are multiple different brands, and I'm going to guess maybe a half dozen different manufacturers of the motors. Most of the vortexers I've bought for labs, if properly anchored and braced on a solid lab bench, are barely audible. I have come across a few over the years that do make a racket, usually due to an improperly balanced motor or a bad casing. Occasionally you do get a lemon.

[@PFCDickSimmons]

Ditto, I use a lot of S75 paint and its a wrist saver considering how badly those bottles need to be shaked before use

[@vindik8or]

A compressor with air tank is good for your ears and longevity of the compressor.

[@LylaMev]

I some times forget I have the compressor on and it will scare the crap out of me when it turns on.

[@ColonelSandersLite]

@@LylaMev If your compressor with a tank is turning on when you're not using it, you have a leak. How much of a difference the tank make depends a bit on setup and use case. If your airbrush setup is right where you brush paint and you just use it for a few seconds at a time to do this or that, it won't make that much of a difference re keeping the compressor cool. If you're more into doing more sustained work, it really helps there a *lot*. Using a tankless compressor also makes it harder to get crisp clean fine lines. Honestly, if you really want your answer to this, take a look at airbrush art outside of mini painting. Notice that you probably won't find even a single person that paints on panels with a tankless compressor. Sure, you may find a guy that has repurposed an old refridgerator motor and a hardware store air tank for the job, but he *does* have a tank. Some of those guys are doing *really* fine work too so it's not just a matter of scale. To be fully honest, for a lot of questions like this, I'm finding that it's a really good idea to look outside the mini painting realm. When you do, you'll start finding out that there's plenty of stupid in this particular bubble.

[@MechaTrogd0r]

All the compressors I've used with tanks are MUCH louder than my little masters tankless compressor actually. It's pretty quiet.

[@boredcryptek5513]

​@@ColonelSandersLite I think she means the tank will fill up, she'll airbrush for a couple of minutes, forget it's there and then suddenly the typically louder compressor will burst into life interrupting the previous calm.

[@danielmachaj925]

@@LylaMev i always detach my airbrush from the compressor so there is equal pressure outside and inside the tank. if you forget you have turned it off it will keep going and the noise reminds me to turn it off :) - not sure if it works with quick release i just have the screw in and haven't seen a need for quick release. hope it helps

[@Groundeffected]

You can change the needle in the iwata. I changed from the stock to .5 because I do larger scale statues mostly. But there are options you just buy the needle and the little tip for the inside.

[@djangofett4879]

Yes, would be nice if they also had a 0.2 or 0.18 size to swap out. Also would be nice if they just release an HP-BCS (the model that comes standard with 0.5mm) that is gravity feed instead of siphon feed.

[@LylaMev]

Right! You can go larger but not smaller

[@theronhatfield8854]

I like my Grex Tritium TS. Needle/tip sizes available are 0.2, 0.3, 0.5, and 0.7. And it's a pistol grip/trigger style brush, which I personally find easier to control.

[@ИванБирюков-у4п]

​@@LylaMevYou can go 0.2 if you use parts from HP-B iirc. I bought them as regular spare parts, they fit perfectly and wirk just fine.

[@abyssus9304]

@@LylaMev Yes you can, I have the same airbrush and it can go down easily, you just need a new Nozzle & needle. (Which is stupidly expensive..... I wish I had just bought a badger as my Iwata has been nothing but problems)

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

I figure I'd be less impressed with a vortex mixer if I could paint daily. Or at least, multiple times a week. But since I mostly manage an hour or two once a week for painting - and I can easly go over a month without the time to paint at all - it does earn it's keep for me, because my paints do get all the opportunity in the world to settle and seperate.

[@ColonelSandersLite]

Since you're using one, I have a particular question that maybe you can answer - I use a cheap nail polish mixer. Works perfectly fine for dropper bottles at a fraction of the cost. It handles craft paint sized bottles just so so. Doesn't work for crap with a bigger bottle, like what you see for primers and varnishes. How does a vortex mixer handle that stuff? Is it good or not enough power to really do that job?

[@Caynor]

@@ColonelSandersLite I use a vortex mixer for GW and slightly larger pots and it works fine. I throw an agitator ball into the pot as well for 'maximum' effect. I can recommend it. :)

[@edo.1648]

@@ColonelSandersLite I use a larger "Scientific" grade vortex mixer and I can mix paint in craft sized bottles (2oz/60ml) and down. The larger bottles are just too big for the vortex mixer to work properly. I don't know if they make them larger than that. So it is not a huge difference.

[@Valtier_]

​@ColonelSandersLite works for a 500ml resin bottle

[@willgegg8601]

I'm in this boat. My paints sit still for a decent amount of time, I get to paint every other weekend or less! I use maybe 1/10 of my paints when I do a mini, so some paints sit for months.

[@thevuntzer]

That thing about the brushes needing to dry bristles up from Windsor Newton only makes sense if you're really thoroughly cleaning your brushes - otherwise paint getting in the ferrule is the biggest issue. If your brushes are completely clean then maybe evaporating 'upwards' helps keep the shape. Most people probably don't clean their brushes enough, though.

[@Gvaz]

I clean mine, usually, after every single paint session. Usually I get the soap in there all sudsy and then wash it off another day.

[@thevuntzer]

@@Gvaz Definitely clean after each session (and don't let your brushes dry out during a session). Wash off the sudsy soap immediately and when your brush is still wet after rinsing, spin it on the soap like you're making a nice tip to paint with. Let it try like that ideally upside down (you can use the little plastic sheath they come with) or if you have to right side up.

[@Gvaz]

@@thevuntzer washing off the sudsy soap immediately is more effort than I have left when I'm done painting and doesn't seem to be doing any harm. Especially when that's another trip downstairs to get to the sink and then spending a minute or two washing the soap off several brushes and then heading back upstairs. might not seem like a lot but it feels like another spoon when I just spent a bunch

[@therauchcolt6573]

Yep,... see it the same way. Different pro-painters (I think it was Vince Venturella and someone else) tell, that if you store your wet brushes tip upside the moist and rest of paint will seep into the ferrule and you ll get pretty fast a split tip. So Leyla no reason to apologise. You are absolutly right ;). Our small brushes will dry in any direction within hours. So I dont see the problem with evaporation.

[@chesca9773]

There is a painters soap we use. That doesn’t damage the hair on the brush. Along with using a cup with a tight coil in it to help with the cleaning process.

[@crazylocha2515]

Appreciate your honesty and revisiting some of the recommendations. Refreshing. Thank you

[@aegisvald5093]

As far as I can tell about the airbrush compressor, your environment can play a huge factor in whether or not you benefit from it. Where I live, I get crazy condensation inside the airbrush which makes using the airbrush a complete pain. I have a special longer braided cable and a secondary moisture trap and I still get issues. Once i got the tank with the compressor, the problem went away. By letting the air equalize in temp from the compression chamber to my brush in the extra tank it killed the condensation issue entirely

[@brentashby1549]

Same here. The air pressure is also much more consistent. Having a tank made a huge difference in my airbrushing experience.

[@Bobyoudontneeemyname]

Yes, dealing with condensation issues and a more consistent air flow are pretty much only benefits ive seen

[@credoimperialis]

WAAAAAAAAAAAT I disagree with the Iwata, you just need to regulate the pressure to be able to glaze with it just but a quick release with a mac valve and practice, and that's it. I can even do it with a .5 needle. Nice video keep it up.

[@Vormulac1]

You would certainly regret only having the H&S Infinity to do both 0.15 and 0.4 as opposed to having the excellent HP-CS for 0.3 and the Infinity for 0.15. Changing the nozzle and needle every time is a pain in the neck, having a separate brush is far far better. I have both and although technically I could make do with just the Infinity, I really wouldn't want to. By the way, I got the PaintPuck after seeing it on your channel and I wouldn't be without it now, I'm definitely taking better care of my brushes with it being somewhere convenient to hang them during a painting session.

[@MacAttack001]

On the topic of air compressors. Air compressors with tanks are pretty nice if you live in a humid location, that tank serves as your first water trap. Speaking of which, please do NOT forget to open up the drain valve on the bottom of the tank to remove any water inside of the tank (just say NO to rusty pressure vessels kids!). I still use an inline water trap just to be extra careful, which has resulted in me not having the dreaded water splatter in my airbrushes over the last 6 years. Great video, I look forward to seeing your videos! :)

[@karol30660]

I have a similar wrist problem and the vortex shaker is a godsend, I do sometimes shake a paint by hand, but i use the mixer for most of the work and I feel much better. I use it on my thigh to keep the noise down :p And I know it can damage your hand, but I'm pretty sure you'd need to use it all the time in a lab for that to happen. But if used to mix a dozen paints every few days, I doubt it can do much harm, unlike shaking by hand in my case.

[@LylaMev]

Oooo I hadn't thought of that

[@hamdrawn424]

Using vortex mixer on your thigh people unite!

[@ger5956]

As far as I know the compressor with a tank just means the compressor isn’t running all the time, theoretically meaning you can paint longer as motor (?) doesn’t overheat as fast. At least that’s what I was told when I looked into getting my first airbrush set up.

[@Daymond42]

I've heard some say that the air pressure stays more consistent as well, and doesn't fluctuate... but with my setup, I got two different regulators (one on the compressor itself, and one on a moisture trap), so I set the first one to about 50psi, and then fine adjust the second one to my desired painting psi. Overkill? Maybe...

[@alexrc7333]

I got the 50 liter capacity compressor and it lasts for 2 complete painting sessions (primer, zenithal, base colors and layering). The bigger the tank the better, in my opinion.

[@gi1dor]

​@@alexrc7333 wooh, dream setup! I wish I had room for it

[@bakezori]

The air tank improvement can be pretty subtle. You will get a longer life out of the air compressor components with an air tank. If you want to see what it does for you, use really low (or high? It's been a while since I tested this myself) pressure and draw thin lines. You should see the pulse of the compressor in your line without the air tank.

[@Vormulac1]

Definitely, compressor with a tank makes a big difference. Also nice to not have the damned thing running constantly while painting.

[@SeanHoltzman]

It depends on the compressor design and accessories, too. My first compressor and airbrush were a GREX kit, with an inline adjustment knob. The compressor output at slightly higher psi than I needed but through the adapter turned down a bit made sure that any tiny variation in the air pressure was non-existent. That said, you go from no PSI to full pretty jarringly, so having proper handling/control skills becomes extremely important. I didn't have those, and still I got smooth application and lining ... until the compressor would heat the air enough, and create enough inlne moisture it would cause problems....

[@acinomnottarts]

Compressor tanks reduce ware and tear. Constant on-off cycles isn't great for motors, especially cheap ones.

[@RedShirtNPC]

I’m surprised not to see anyone mentioning the biggest benefit of compressors with a tank - no water in your airline. Tankless compressors can’t eliminate humidity fast enough, so after working for a while your airbrush will often start spitting water - ruining whatever you were doing. The main advantage of models with a tank is that they almost eliminate this issue. If you’re just doing one or two things it probably won’t arise, but if you’re priming an army or a dozen 75mm, then it becomes an issue quickly.

[@bakezori]

@@RedShirtNPC most pressure regulators have a water trap built in, which should keep water out of your line? Or, does it overload the water trap as well? I live in a desert, so the water issue doesn’t come up as much.

[@the_gravy_jones]

You can get most Golden SoFlat colors between $10-20 depending on the pigments and you're getting 2 ounces of paint. Which is inline with a lot of model paints $/ounce and still much cheaper than Citadel paints. I've never regretted buying any Golden paints.

[@FelixstoweFoamForge]

Glad to hear Mochi is feeling better! And yeah, every hobby I've ever gotten into has had a ton of "WHT did I buy that?" moments

[@LylaMev]

He is the ****sweetest**** 😅😅

[@OrcPainterNerd]

The iwata Eclipse HP CS Is my favourite airbrush of all time a true workhorse!!! I say this with an expert opinion on airbrushes. I have reviewed many, many airbrushes over the years. Iwata are second to none in quality and performance. The harder and steenbeck is a nice airbrush I would strongly recommend the 2 in one 0.4mm and 0.2 combo set. 0.15 is not necessary really it just means you will be struggling with thinning and spraying more.

[@balgus82]

Compressors with tanks are so you can use the airbrush for longer without running out of air. It's useful for large areas (painting model planes or large Gundams for example).

[@chrisl4999]

Also to help keep the airflow consistent. The tank acts as buffer

[@ImCassy]

I will argue for the Golden So Flat Matte Acrylics. Are they expensive? Yes. Are they worth it? I would argue yes. They are opaque and have a nice consistency. They are also true matte and vibrant. I did buy the sets that helped build out my color options and save me a little money and then I have been slowly adding one of two tubs of the paint colors I don't have in time.

[@dakdak7609]

Interestingly, I still recall the class at art college where we were taught how to look after our brushes. We were told never to invert the brush, ideally even when using it, as we should protect it so that no liquid of any type could get into the ferrule. Putting it point up when drying would likely lead to a ruler across the knuckles.

[@drbell26]

Brand new to painting and your channel. I really respect how you don't have issues with apologizing for past comments instead of trying to put a positive spin on them.

[@TheRedBard]

I think your purchase in airbrush is actually fine. The vast majority of people DO get away with something like the iwata, which can have both the. 35 and. 50 needles. It really isn't the worst to have a second one like the SOTAR 2020 or Krome or such, for fien detail and keep the second one for priming and blasting. In either case I got mine used, but your choice is still probably the right one.

[@lordofhyphens]

I ended up just collecting airbrushes myself, but I agree fully that, if funds allow, to specialize your airbrush loadouts. I keep a cheap pistol grip (still gravity feed) for priming and varnishes. My Krome Renegade and Patriots have different niches, although I think they will be effectively replaced by the Kyiv Infinity I just got. Just don't get something like the Sotar 2020 Slim unless you really want a paint cup that small and frustrating to work with.

[@racerdeth]

Yeah that one seemed weird. I thought a .35mm would have done what Lyla was after. My main brush is a Badger Patriot 105/150(I forget) which has a 0.5mm and I switch to my Harder and Steenbeck Infinity for the detail stuff, which like she says is great for those tiny colour transitions, but I really would have thought somewhere between the two would have been fine. Still, she knows what she wants and if the Iwata isn't doing it for her, then it isn't doing it for her! I still use the Badger for nigh on everything even 5 years after getting the Infinity - it's still the "protect your new trainers!" product 😅

[@sveeart]

The smaller the nozzle in your airbrush the more problems you'll have with clogs. If you have a .3 nozzle and theres a tiny bit of dried paint in the nozzle its just going to be blasted through no probs but if you've got the .15 nozzle it takes the smallest chunk of dried paint to clog it completely. You can do some really fine stuff with the Iwata, it's just down to paint reduction and airbrush trigger control. I have the H&S infinity (and multiple Iwata's) and I ended up putting a larger nozzle/needle setup onto it because I spent most of the day cleaning out blockages. The infinity is an amazing airbrush but get the 2-in-1 option that comes with 2 different nozzles as you will probably get frustrated having to clean the .15 out constantly.

[@ScytheNoire]

Artis Opus brushes are made by Rosemary & Co. You can pick them up for cheaper under the Rosemary brand. S = Series 33 / 99 M = Series 323 / 93 D = Model Dry Brush

[@LylaMev]

Well I don't like rosemary and Co either

[@bluedotdinosaur]

@@LylaMev Army Painter's "master" series dry brushes are a clone of the Artist Opus dry brushes for a fraction of the price.

[@BalooSJ]

@@bluedotdinosaur I bought a set of those and the quality was... dubious. I mean, I'm sure the brush itself was fine, but the ferrules had come loose from the handle. The store sent me a new set though which seem better.

[@mhicks31]

I bought the paint puck partially on your recommendation and I love it. I love having the option to have the brushes held in the water but without touching the bottom. its perfect.

[@steampunk8036]

Lyla, I really appreciate your videos and reviews. I coughed up the $30 for the paint puck and the information I understood is that it’s best to let your brushes dry upside down. Supposedly, this allows for any residual paint to not get caught up in the ferrule. -Rick, USMC

[@derekgarcia3069]

That's what I've been hearing, especially in recent months. If you can't hang them upside down, they should lie flat. Sounds like there could be pros and cons to either option.

[@Tipsythomas]

Just got one myself, I recon we should be thinking in drying stages & not a single act. Put the brushs on the puck sides when swapping to others then when the painting session is finished put away on a sideways or up right rack. Don't just leave them upside down on the puck.

[@kurtweihs4665]

I went from a tankless compressor to a Sparmax AC-501 and the difference was huge. I wasn’t concerned with noise, but the Sparmax was much quieter. The big difference was the airflow quality which never varied. With the tankless I’d occasionally get uneven drop offs or ‘blorts’ in air pressure that could potentially ruin my paint layer. It made a big difference for me, not just in quality of painting but in confidence that I wasn’t going to get an unexpected paint problem any second.

[@isaacbenrubi9613]

Good Mochi! I'm glad you're feeling better! Kitteh sure was vocal today, huh?

[@LylaMev]

Thank you!!

[@nekrataali]

Mochi understands the cat tax.

[@jaymaxwell8645]

3:23 same issue. Ended up putting it on the floor but I also paint in a basement.

[@joerie.houthuijsen]

Lyla, if you looking for the infinity, I can recommend the lighter al+ as made in the special Kyev model. Also swap the .15 for the .2. The difference in fine detail is so, so small but the .15 clogs so much more, that even h&s changed the default kit to .2 and .4 and made the .15 optional 😉

[@LylaMev]

Thanks for the info!

[@spilbobaggins]

yeah I have a .2 and a .4 and it's all I need.

[@smudge666uk]

I own the infinity (.15 and .2 needle) and the new infinity AG and the differences in this version make it a must own for miniature painting imo, the trigger system has a much better feel to it and the body is shorter to allow you more control over the Airbrush in general, it might only come with 1 needle size but you can pick up bigger or smaller ones for it no problem.

[@Steve_Lorimer]

I’d also recommend the 0.2 needle over the 0.15 for the H&S

[@fraserskomorowski2311]

I've purchased the Kyiv version in the pink color and it is absolutely a game changer. The .2 is the sweet spot for details with the .4 being great to do large surface models like cars/planes.

[@jstutz215]

I was pretty disappointed when I bought the winsor Newton brushes. Maybe I messed them up or something but they don't hold a tip and are actuality splitting after a couple uses. I definitely recommend a sturdy desk for the vortex mixer. I have an old desk that does budge at all.I use mine ever time I paint.

[@NeedGamesNow]

I've been hanging my brushes tip down for over 30 years, it is how I was taught. I have some expensive sable hair brushes I have been using since back in the 80s that are still in perfect condition now, going on almost 40 years of use - so long as you take care of them and clean them nice brushes will last you forever.

[@petersmith2112]

I was thinking that as long as there either up or down and not left with the bristles touching anything then they'd dry ok.

[@dlh567]

I wonder if the vortex mixer you bought was stronger than it needs to be. I love mine, but it's a smaller version. I also find it very helpful to put a small ball of blue tac in the cup of the vortex mixer then press the bottle down on that so I don't need to hold it in place with my whole hand, just a finger will do.

[@jonnytenebrous1113]

I've got the smaller version of the "Four E's" vortex mixer, too. Works great, isn't too loud, and seems quite stable on heavy, solid wood shelves (where I keep my hobby supplies). Been a big upgrade for me - no regrets! Thanks for the blue tac tip - will try that.

[@jaggedtoothgrin]

glad to see Mochi is feeling well enough to be back to their usual antics!

[@LylaMev]

Yes!

[@liberalhyena9760]

Well, well, a non-binary cat. I suppose it was bound to happen.

[@LylaMev]

??????

[@liberalhyena9760]

As suggested by the pronoun.

[@03dashk64]

@@liberalhyena9760 it’s not that deep. I think the OP just didn’t know if Mochi was a boy or girl so used a neutral pronoun to avoid the “she’s/he’s a girl/boy”

[@rastamann2009]

Thanks for the video Lyla! I hadn't thought about that angle for the Kimera paints! Cheers

[@Ali626AMM]

I can't tell you how wonderful it is to see Mochi being a shit in this video. It's so great he's feeling better. 😁 Much love to you all. ♥️ I forgive you for the wrong steers. They've worked out ok for me. I bought the brush cup and hang all my brushes to dry. Maybe the WN brush drying thing is why I am still not 100% loving my series 7 brushes. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@billstubbles2398]

Regarding cleaning brushes, I'm very new to the hobby and not using brushes nearly as high-end as yours,, but for water cup and paintbrush cleaning, I'm using a cut off Coke bottle - the texture on the bottom seems to be working pretty well so far. Am I missing something not using a puck?

[@wikyWargaming]

Glad to see the kitten is doing better! After seeing Ninjon accidentally squish his portable paint cup, I will not be using that particular item 😂

[@LylaMev]

OH NO

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I do like mine but still it is a risk.

[@Okarine-n4h]

You can indeed change the needle size on the eclipse. You just also need to buy the correct nozzle for it too!

[@jessefurqueron5555]

Ok, airbrushes. As a bit of background, my son and I have been in this hobby a LONG time and until Covid were yearly regulars at Wonderfest in Louisville and used to post on RPF regularly. If you were to walk out to our model room, you’d find 3(4/5?) diff types of Iwata airbrushes (including several workhorse CSs and the sometimes maligned M2), several Infinity CR+s and several Iwata air compressors including the large tank/2 regulator model which rigged to run through an electric air dryer. All in all about 10 airbrushes are usually out on the air booth station (a large downdraft Artograph). And just as important to note is just about every brand of model paint you can imagine is represented (though mostly I’d say Vallejo), this is important cause not all paints shoot the same and sometimes it’s great to leave a couple of ABs setup for them specifically when on larger or multiple simultaneous projects. Why so many? Diff MAC settings (almost all have MAC valves either built in or added, including the Infinities) on each and in the case of the Infinities, 3 diff needles and diff regulator settings (all of the ABs are hooked into a manifold w individual regulators off of the air dryer). Is a shame to hear you regret buying your CS. They are fantastic airbrushes. It’s just natural to grow your airbrush collection over time and get specific setups for your needs. That’s why we’ve acquired so many over the years. We airbrush everything from 17/28mm to 8.5’ long 1:22.5 models. Kinda sad to hear you regret the CS. It’s probably our most used model of airbrush! BTW if you do expand into Infinity’s and it’s the non-AngelG model, take a look at the trigger mod for silky operation that’s on KZbin. Spraygunner is where we source our Infinity brushes and parts; Iwata we get from Tom at TAG team. Not associated w SG other than as a VERY happy longtime customer. Tom on the hand I consider a friend, he did teach my son and I how to airbrush oh so many moons ago 😱 and it’s hoot to hear himcomment to others that we buy airbrush cleaner from him by the gallon 😁 So in closing, if I were going to have just one airbrush…just one for ever and ever it’d be the CS. But I’d ADD an Infinity given the chance and keep the CS w no regrets 😉 PS, we have two of that model Vortex mixer and they get used constantly. Wore out several of the smaller models before getting this one. No problems w wrist (so far). We’re Kimera base set and metallic fans, all colors in each have been used, but buy individual refills for the most used colors (somehow one of their figs always jumps into the order w the paints!?). We use cheap disposable brushes a lot (glue, dry brushing, basing etc) but our go to brushes for painting a Windsor&Newton 7s and Raphael sables. Prefer Olfa knives over Xacto. Super Sculpey, 50/50 Cernit+Fimo, Apoxie and Monster Clay all get used pending the project. Smooth-On silicones and resins; Never fretted buying BMC, Dspiae (kinda fell in love w their mini desktop vac, great if there’s small parts laying around), God Hand they are all top notch and no regrets on any of those items purchased. And the list goes on 🤓 PPS air tank..it really only makes a diff IMHO in two cases 1) noise reduction (I get tired of a constantly running compressor and before someone says it, we’ve addressed the spray booth exhaust noise via a mod - hint take a look at inline combo-duct fans on Amazon) and 2) if you are doing a lot of continuous application (w/o letting trigger up) you may notice a reduction in paint pulsing. I can say on physically small models where we tend press and release quickly (not basecoating) not much of a diff. But on larger scale models, you likely will notice a diff. If I were doing it all over again, I’d buy a California Air Tools tank (UltraQuiet), they start at about a 1 gallon tank I think, over the Iwata. So having said that we do have a 50gal CAl Air Tool 220v compressor w electric air dryer and auto water drain out in the shop. Just need to get around to plumbing the copper airline (no Blue line here) into the model room. Then the Iwata compressors will all be retired (except a couple of portable ones). Cheers! As always, I emphasize YMMV. Just sharing. Nothing more. Nothing less. Not YTubers or influencers, so our opinions are based on our own hard earned cash and the purchases made from it. Now, back to the model room.

[@tay13666]

Hey! Great to see another WF attendee here! Been going every year since 02, except the year it didn't happen. And yeah, I too know Tom :D I usually end up a few doors down from him and spend plenty of after hours time with the TAG Team crew. That is where my CS came from. Though I didn't buy it, my daughter bought it for me for an xmas gift. (knew there was a reason I paid for her to come to the show with me all those years) Even though I have only been airbrushing for about a year now, I can see the need for multiple set ups. Eventually looking to add one with a bigger needle for blasting out base coats on big kits, and something I can leave set up for really fine detail, while leaving the CS as the every day driver.

[@jessefurqueron5555]

Cool! I’d say we’ve seen each other then in the dealer room or the contest room. Tom is great. We used to go to the “University” he and Steve ran on Fridays when my son was young. Yeah, Tom, Steve, Jim (dealer room and even Matt Mrozak et al know em all. Heck Matt lives about 10 minutes from us, but we usually only see each other 11hrs from where we live, eg when we’re at Wonderfest. My boys have participated in Iron Modeller quite a few times, best part is going through the greeblies grab bag at the en. Tom and his guys were the ones that got us to start going to IPMS cons. Many a road trip from Loveland Virginia over the years. We’re hoping to start back to WF next year. My youngest son Jon-Pierre was the first to ever win a gold In the juniors division (according to John, who was contest coordinator at the time). So if you see a tall long-gray-haired guy walking around w a 6’4” young man (can’t say kid anymore) that’s us 😁. Say “hi”! PS I miss Tom’s Friday night “private” room model contest 😉 the most!

[@jessefurqueron5555]

PPS, we use the M2 for base coating, it excels at that, no matter the scale. It’ll shoot just about anything up to thick mud 😉

[@tay13666]

@@jessefurqueron5555 That model contest is on Saturday nights now, and is run by someone else, as Tom has had some personal setbacks the last few years, and missed a few shows. Though he did finally make his return last year. Also, if you are not aware, there is a channel that caters to us WF types on the figure kit side. Model Club TV. Done by a couple of the regulars, talk about new kits coming out, and interviews with producers, sculptors, and other hobby people.

[@tay13666]

@@jessefurqueron5555 Will definitely keep that in mind.

[@MrDevilFlash]

If I may give you a piece of advice as you are used to iwata airbrush. You'll find the trigger on the H&B a bit sloppy. That can be fixed by adding 2 ptfe nozzle seals (spare part 123180) on the needle guide just behind the trigger.

[@Darognarr]

Your cat interventions are part of what makes your videos so enjoyable :) Also, thanks a bunch for the tips!

[@LylaMev]

I'm glad! People used to tell me they hated them and wouldn't watch my video because of them.

[@derekgarcia3069]

​@@LylaMev clearly they are people of weak character!

[@PrydeAidan]

​@@LylaMev Having the pleasure of having a much to curious kitty. I can say the added difficulty of painting with cats is severely underrated.

[@LylaMev]

They are so perfect

[@guioni87]

I definitely find them endearing too! Mochi is best boi

[@googleboughtmee]

Ooh interesting about the compressor. I don't have any compressor, or an airbrush, but I was going to get one with a tank because I don't like the idea of it having to run constantly and annoy me with the noise (or overheat). Does it at least make things quieter? Briefly?

[@douglasfazzani269]

Also, I’ve found the exact same issue with all the Artis Opus brushes I’ve bought. I’m glad I’m not the only one, I was beginning to think I was going mad after so many people said they were amazing

[@Night_Bacon]

Think it was Juan Hidalgo (might have mispelled that) that said they're just Rosemary brushes with a rebrand and mark up.

[@LylaMev]

I've been told that by an artis opus distributor

[@Valtier_]

Had the same, very disappointing experience, even the wooden box wasn't closing properly and had a wrong saw line in it

[@tay13666]

Glad I've never tried them. Only thing I ever got from them was the Ninjon texture pad. Which works ok, but isn't quite as great as made out to be.

[@mkuhnactual]

From what I've been told, they're just rebranded Rosemary brushes which are fine for the price, but not at the marked up Artis Opus prices.

[@Irich1961]

I bought the vortex mixer after seeing on you video and use it all the time....love it, though I do have a solid table so it does not make much noise. Also I got the paint puck water cup to see if it would help preserve my brushes... It did, well I think it did as they seem to be lasting me a lot longer. . Thank you.

[@LylaMev]

I'm glad!!!

[@brendanarmstrong7802]

Some thoughts: 1. Replacing the needle in an airbrush is a pain. Rather than going for an airbrush that'll handle both .15 and .4, consider just getting the .15 needle and picking up some quick-release connectors. It's a lot faster to just have two airbrushes to switch between. H&S has a fantastic airbrush customizer with color options and engravings that I personally got a lot out of. 2. I'm really glad you aren't ripping on the Golden High Flows, because I absolutely love those paints. Ironically, I actually bought my own Four-E's vortex mixer because the fluo pink will turn into a strawberry milkshake if you let it sit for a year, and no amount of hand shaking would fix it. 3. I also have a large set of Artis Opus brushes. I'm not as disappointed as you, but they're absolutely my least favorite of the three brands of kolinsky sable I've tried. (First is Raphael, Second is W&N) That said, I knew full well I was buying them for the limited-edition art deco black-and-gold case, not the brushes themselves, so money well-spent. 4. The tank mostly just makes compressors quieter. A compressor without a tank should still give you steady PSI, it'll just have to be actively compressing at all times when it's on.

[@tom7050]

Hi I have a HB-B+ (0,18).. after an infinity, and I will nerver come back . My second main airbrush is a H&S ultra for what HB cant do (primer etc...)

[@HacksawsHobbyBunker]

It is most excellent that Mochi has regained a proper amount of sass! I did buy an Iwata, but I'm happy with it - I lack anything near the level of talent required to be able to make use of something better. Maybe someday I will get that far in my airbrushing journey. Cheers!

[@Drakanis25]

What are you using to hold the mini? Looks cool and has extra support.

[@xaxipistaxi]

First, thanks for the update on Mochi. I'm glad he's doing better :3 Second: as a newbie I love this kind of errata content. It helps me a lot in my painting journey on investing my money where it's worth. Love your videos.

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

Mochi ❤ glad he’s doing well! Hope the donations helped 🥰🍻

[@LylaMev]

Yes thank you!!!

[@Bluewater1976]

Cat! I love my Vortex Shaker, bought an expensive one that barely ravels my desk and is quiet. But I still put mixinf balls in there, glas ones, I find steel ones rust in GW paints. On the brushes: I have seen videos on brush care where the main info is: Don't store them tip up, gravity will pull the tip apart! I believe when it comes to brush care you do you, I use a variety of cleaners and brush soap, which helps a lot. I also paint with like 5 brushes till these are driven to destruction while having 20 or so waiting to be used. But i didn't festroy the ones I currently use properly, so no switcheros.

[@miniaturefun-guy]

Am I right in thinking that Artis Opus brushes are just rebranded rosemary and co brushes for x4 the price? I use Raphael brushes but I’m looking for cheaper alternatives.

[@darksheepvids]

Hi for the air brush with a tank , the tank is always best option . Where I say if you air brush a lot with out a tank you paint will splutter as its so hot with a humidity of 80% that the compressor overheats as its working more constantly and the actually air pressure decreases . I used to paint gundam as well and when you air brushing large panels with primer or colour at 25-30psi the compressors with out tanks battle to keep up the pressure . How every if you are just doing short squirts of air and paint to paint a mini at lower psi you might not have noticed a difference.

[@esbenrasmussen4289]

Get the GSI Creos PS-771 over the H&S Infinity. It is much more precise in the trigger activation I have an H&S airbrush, and a well known fault is that the paint activation is at different trigger pulls. The PS771 has a reputation for being much better at this. It is the same as the iwata custom micron A tank compressor is better because it will spare the piston and you get longer periods of silence. Remember to remove the drain valve when not in use, or else water will build up inside and corrode the tank

[@davedogge2280]

The Iwata HP-CS is the Porsche of the workman's airbrush. However the Infinity CR Plus is the Ferrari of the airbrushes, better precision; I own both of them. So you're right. And yes for the first wave Artis Opis brushes were below par I heard. One sad thing about brushes is that Broken Toad (UK Company) have closed down about 7-9 months ago and they were great sable brushes so I was forced to switch to Rosemary & Co.

[@LylaMev]

oh really!? Maybe I should try them again if it was just the first wave was bad. I don't like rosemary and co. I always come back to my winsor newtons

[@davedogge2280]

@@LylaMev I prefer Rosemary & Co Series 33 to Windsor & Newton Series 7 BUT I've noticed with that the Rosemary ones their bristles just drop out even if you look at them, so their longevity is questionable. Thankfully I have a mother in England who can get them to me cheap.

[@robertbalmforth7364]

Apparently the Artis Opus brushes are just Rosemary and Co’s with different handles.

[@davedogge2280]

@@robertbalmforth7364 really ? are the ferules, bristles and the length and the cut of the bristles exactly the same ? if so which series of Rosemary & Co ? there are lots of Rosemary & Co. Variants. Even the R & Co. Series 33 which I like has two handle types short and long.

[@LylaMev]

I was told the same thing by an artis opus distributor that they are the same brush. Which is amusing because I don't like rosemary and Co either!

[@24fretsoffury]

The mini holder, I’ve seen before some have that extrusion on the side that hangs over the mini, wtf is that for? I bought the basic blue spinny handle which I’m happy with, but I can never imagine what those hangers are for?

[@isisnmagic1812]

Never liked artis opus , your just paying for the name not a quality product. Loved the video and the boss wanting his hugging time lol

[@LylaMev]

He is very demanding

[@richardbradley2335]

HI....At 0.50...What's the big plastic C shape for on the left side of the painting handle ? It looks like it would get in the way !

[@douglasfazzani269]

Infinity is a fantastic brush, I haven’t regretted buying it for a second

[@Mavericktravo]

Wouldn't a compressor tank just be so that you can use the compressor without it running constantly? Save on power, save on noise?

[@DFDragoon]

Excellent to see and hear that Mochi is feeling better! That's great news! Great video, and definitely understandable points. On the airbrush front, can definitely see where you're coming from as well. I was looking at the H&S also for a new purchase, but recently also saw some excellent vids from the Art Workshop reviewing a number of H&S as well as vids comparing several companies brushes pros and cons, although the build quality and atomization is excellent. Give and take. Personally am more interested in a consistent application at those small needle levels, but to each their own. Not sure if the Angel Giraldez model addresses it or not, might be worth looking into. Thanks again for the great content and work! Have a good one!

[@LylaMev]

I thought about buying one of the special miniature specific ones, but I wanted to stick with Amazon because I had a gift card

[@DFDragoon]

​@@LylaMev That definitely makes sense! If using it for any under-shading or specific spots, would just recommend keeping the trigger in mind as I've seen it's inconsistent start point be a thing. Killer brush overall though. I think some people have done modifications to make the triggers more consistent as well, but I haven't looked into that so ymmv. (Edit) That said too, looks like folks like Vince Venturella were having a lot of good success with trigger controller consistency with the H&S' so it might also just be case by case *shrugs* lol.

[@theladyhussar8641]

Lyla, I'm having a HUGE issue with WN Series 7 quality control! Most that I have purchased this year ARE NOT keeping their tips, when in the past I used to be able to work a brush hard for years before blowing out the tips! Are you having a similar experience? Is there another brand of sable brushes you would recommend?

[@JM-qz4ik]

Vortex mixers are that loud, but totally change your desk top for plywood. Plywood won't warp as easily and it's very strong. Also, don't just let the top "rest" on supports. Install some small angle brackets. The last thing you want is for the top to fall or the expensive stuff you put on it to. These are cheap and quick things from the hardware store. The plywood will also be cut to size for free at Home Depot or Lowes. Love the content and the honesty. Keep up the great work

[@olloplays]

If you're not using an air compressor what is the set up? I don't know the ins and outs of airbrushing yet, but it's my next step.

[@LylaMev]

I am using an air compressor! One had a tank, one did not

[@olloplays]

@@LylaMev Oooooh!!! That makes sense, my brain is still so sleepy from daylight savings.

[@kofmanmi]

Not sure about the accuracy of some of the info. As far as I can tell, you can buy individual Kimera paints from the base set but the Expansion set and the two artist-designed sets can only be purchased whole, not individually. If I'm wrong, please correct me as I would love to buy some individual paints from them.

[@LylaMev]

You can buy all the colors individually expect the new set

[@x3mperformace]

Hey Lyla. A 'Pro' tip from modeller to modeller. Drop the Harder & Steenbeck Infinity and get a Silverline Evolution 2 in 1. You get a 0,15 needle and nozzle, + a 0,3 needle and nozzle set and an additional paint cup extra, for the same money as a basic Infinity. Belive me, i got both, and both in 2 in 1 sets. It's a joy to use the Silverline, it's a real workhorse, easy to maintain, seconds to disasemble and clean.

[@jakeg7033]

Lyla, does your vortex mixer have rubber nubs underneath that are basically its legs? The one I picked up does and I haven't had any issues with using it on a card table. Really helped to revive some citadel paints I've had since the early 90's...

[@bobhopfner3812]

I have the same mixer and it's great. My desk is more solid so no worries. It's not perfect, I need to shale the beads loose on settled paint.

[@ivanupton6586]

a year after this video, to my knowledge the benefit of the compressor with the tank is simply that the motor on the compressor is not running all the time. something that might be a game changer is for air brushes that don't come with one you could try an MAC (Micro Air Control) valve for fine tuning the pressure with out having to always fiddle with the regulator on the compressor. I am not sure how it would work for mixing paints with thinners/reducers of things like that but I have lately been curious about the type of magnetic mixer used in chem labs that use a plastic coated magnet that you drop into the mixing container or a pot into which it can fit and then the magnet in the base rotates and then spins the little 'pill' to mix your paint...

[@kristinedupuy6184]

I’m a little confused. Why couldn’t you change the Iwata Eclipse needle? I have the Iwata HP-CS airbrush and change the size needle it all the time.

[@darthhall6187]

I had the same issue with my vortex mixer. I just used an old work mat, the kind car mechanics or gardeners use to protect their knees. Cut it to size and the problem went away.

[@seismojones]

I bought a Makita Quiet Series air compressor that has a 1 gallon tank. In spite of the name, I still find it louder than I care for when its filling up the tank. I took a large cardboard box, lined it with egg crate foam for sound dampening and cut holes for the hose and air intake (very important). Works great! The air intake opening can also let heat escape but the engine really doesn't run long enough to generate much. The hose out of the box runs to a little regulator and pressure gauge I have mounted at the desk so its a pretty sweet little setup.

[@wombora]

I use a very strong magnet for the first part of mixing of bottle, when the pigments are all stuck in the bottom - so i can move the steel balls arround in the thick goop at the bottom, after that mixing by hand is not that bad

[@the250mikec]

Super cool. We all buy stuff then try it out only to find it wasn't exactly what we needed. But pretty much all game Envy is utilitarian and awesome. Worth every penny. You rock

[@igelkott255]

My ides for a paint mixer is a device I could load up with 30-40 paints and have it just calmly rock back and forth, upside down to right side up. It doesn't have to go very fast but it does have to slowly rotate the bottles so the mixing balls can get all the paint all around the inside. Let it run overnight or all day when I'm at work and when I'm ready to paint all the paint is mixed.

[@JamesSmith-gy6mp]

I have a vortex mixer, and mixing balls, and Army painter paints. How many mixing balls per bottle do you recommend?

[@JamesSmith-gy6mp]

And Mochi is a cutie pie, give in to all the demands.

[@DFDragoon]

Oh! And for the vortex mixer, I was running into a similar problem, and what I ended up doing was putting some sound insulation foam like what's used for walls or under studio monitors and put that under mine to dampen the vibrations. Anti-vibratory protection goes a long way, and it definitely lessens the noise and external shakes ime. Ymmv for your set up if you try it, and it depends on the kind of foam, thickness, etc as well. Thought it might be worth sharing!

[@LylaMev]

Thank you!

[@tanman729]

MOOOOOCHIIIIII!!!!!!! glad he's feeling better! and if you even remember, sorry i haven't finished my homework, health stuff keeps coming up. it's also very intimidating to put paint on models you really like and dont want to mess up

[@LylaMev]

Hi!!! Remember there is nothing wrong with stripping a model: it's just plastic!

[@minipaintingforyou]

Clickbait title is clickbait, but the information is so helpful! You can find so many day 1 reviews of products that are never updated. It’s very much appreciated to get a better informed opinion after extended usage of a product. Thank you for sharing!

[@jeffreylay-harker6910]

You could prop up the vortex mixer, I know I have mine over some rubber which helps with sound, and vibration, plus kind of gives my wrist a nice soft landing spot.

[@pizzalord3n]

What's the deal with brand airbrushes anyways? Mine's a generic noname China crap one with some different upgrades and it's performing well?

[@drsofaking]

Hi Lyla - set your vortex on a piece of dense foam. The foam will absorb 99% of the vibration. You might fall in love with it..

[@Dude_Slick]

I have the H&S Infinity. It's a good detail brush when it wants to be, but it's finicky. Have a look at the GSI Creos PS-771 It's about 100 bucks less than the infinity and arguably better. I have both, as well as the Eclipse. They're all great tools and I'm not giving any of them up any time soon. If you want the best of the best, there isalways the Iwata Micron, @ $500 to $800. I've never used a Micron, but they say my Creos sprays exactly like one at $220.

[@slaaneshgod]

I love my vortex but I can see where some setups it would not help much. Green stuff world makes this handheld spinner thing for paint that may fit your needs more. Considering the frequency and time I get to paint sith how much I have to work the vortex has been worth its weight in latinum

[@KittenMiau]

Do you use any paint with 0.15mm needle? I have hard time to reduce some of the paints for 0.2mm needle already 🙀

[@tftf60]

Comoressor, i bought a 'silent' one with a 24l tank for a little bit more than the little ones with the Tank. And one a priming Session of 20 figures it started to refill the Tank once. Not having to Listen to the constant running is the plus, if you have the space.

[@robpaintsminiatures]

1- my airbrush was 28$ on Amazon and comes with 3 needles in different sizes and easily interchangeable. And I love this airbrush and it does a great job. 2- I bought a 30$ nail polish bottle shaker and it does a great job... 3- brushes I used to always dry it brush up and I found that ruined them way more than brush down... Thanks for the video because some things I am glad I stayed away from them like Kimera paints.

[@ericrussell2378]

The major benefit to a compressor with a tank is a more steady stream of air vs. the buffering you can get with a tankless, and when the air is compressed it heats up then condenses when it expands and cools, your tank can act as a first expansion chamber to reduce this effect and combined with a water trap can give you an increased run time for sessions with no worries about moisture ruining your work. My first set up was a tankless one and I could only get around 45 minutes before my moisture trap was overwhelmed and there would be water in the hose. Can' remember the last time I was as frustrated as I was when I saw that giant drop of water come out of the brush and completely ruin almost an hours worth of work.

[@Erzas_Art_Atelier]

Wait...so brush bristles up for evaporation not bristles down to protect the ferrel?

[@jonc8561]

I love my vortex mixer but I have a stable working space so it's not too loud. Good video!

[@jameshennessy1507]

This was an interesting video for me because I've had the same journey with my airbrushes. I got the Iwata Eclipse and it was a pefect purchase for getting started. Then I got the H&S Infinity for more precise painting. But I still love my Eclipse and use it for 90% of my work, like priming, base coating, varnishing, etc. It's like a dependable Toyota truck. Rarley clogs, hard to damage and applies paint smoothly. I upgraded my compressor to the Iwata model with an air tank and two airbrush hookups. You can set the pressure seperately for each hookup, so I reach down and grab either airbrush without having to make any adjustments.

[@roberteng3567]

Can’t the paint puck hold brushes bristles up?

[@FigureFortress]

Please let us know how you get on with the infinity. I just bought it and now I have the learning curve of getting use to it against my rubbish £20 airbrush I had before. I'd love to see you do a video on it. :)

[@123scopee]

Great vid, also, you can warm up paints a little to help mix.

[@sprocket5526]

If you are considering the HS infinity CR plus, then you should look in to the HS grafo T1. It's a 0.15 needle gun. it has an "cup" opening that's more friendly to small amounts of paint and quick color swaps. It not a classic dual action, and its not a single action either. It functions like a trigger airbrush.

[@johnathanrhoades7751]

I love my Iwata. Perfect for most applications. Sure, it’s not the pinpoint accuracy of a Harder Steinbeck, but I don’t need that and the price difference wouldn’t be worth it. I love my Kimera’s, but I’m loving the mixing process. There are plenty amazing options, I just enjoy Kimera a lot. And if you’re not going to be mixing the whole set definitely won’t be worth it. I really like the high flows through an airbrush. I only have a few key colors for under painting, but the price per volume isn’t as bad as this makes it sound. (Though the $45 is a bit steep…) The tank makes it so that it overheats less, controls moisture better, and sometimes improves airflow consistency. I wouldn’t go out and buy a new compressor with a tank if I already had one without, but it’s worth the bit extra for me to have the tank.

[@williamfawkes8379]

Good stuff. I was thinking about the air compressor+ tank. It's not that is does something different, it's that it does something less. It stops running when the tank has enough pressure, so you can hear the cat purr. Love your cat, and your information about all of the painting. Thanks much.

[@chinja777]

i recommend using a lash glue shaker, it basically spins your paint instead of shaking it and its much cheaper and much quieter, your paint will still need mixing balls though for thicker paints.

[@GirlPainting]

the difference between an airbrush compressor with a tank and without is the following. the compressor pulses with the rythem of its piston inside and these pulses can travel through the pipes and spit the paint in a rythem instead of a constand flow. a tank on the other hand builds up preasure inside, and releases it through its valve in a constand flow. its nothing world ending, but if your an airbrush pro you will notice the difference.