My Experience! Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra Resin 3D Printer

[@UncleJessy]

Oh man that sucks but at the same time thats awesome that the feature actually worked properly!

[@LoyalMoses]

I had some awesome plans for a lot more Mario stuff! 😞 But ultimately I am super impressed and so happy that it saved me from a potential mess!

[@pabeta]

Puncturing an FEP can happen to anyone and almost happened to me before. Good to not gloss over it, good preview!

[@LoyalMoses]

I was so sad not to have another one to keep printing!

[@swaslaukinonome]

My advice to anyone buying a resin printer is also buy an extra vat and extra films if they don't come with it. You will want multiples of those on hand sooner or later, whether for convenience or because you made some little slip up, forgot about the whole exposure to light thing and now your life is scraping meticulously, or etc. It's not like the machine is all broken, you just gotta have some of these things on hand if you don't want an unplanned pause in production.

[@LoyalMoses]

Great advice!

[@swaslaukinonome]

Great video! Thanks!

[@brianwilcox2543]

Thank you for posting and admitting that you broke it. Now I can prove to my wife that I'm not the only goofball around. :)

[@LoyalMoses]

Haha! Anytime! 😆

[@tmtjg3]

Impressive size, and the price point is awesome! It might be time to get my first resin printer

[@LoyalMoses]

Heck yeah!

[@donsparish6615]

Will you possibly compair it to the saturn 3 ultra?

[@LoyalMoses]

I’d love to!

[@dmhayes6]

Another amazing video. Thanks again Loyal!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!!! 💜

[@KoppikCZ]

I am curious about comparison speeds Elegoo vs. Prusa SL1S with high resolution resins, becouse I have to set the speed down on my SL1S due to surface artefacts and whobi, dobi, the speed is lower than other "standard" printers. So please take a focus on settings the print speeds and high ress resins. in case of rapid prototyping with less detail focus is tilting mechanism superfast. But in case of focus on details I still love my GK2 + ACF

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely! I’ll do my best to compare them as evenly and directly as I can!

[@zeriel0009]

This printer is amazing for the price. The resin plate rocks to help un stick each slice this allows the main plate to move upwards only doubling the printing speed. The downside to this is that the resin plate is floating so if you over fill or puncture the Fep film the resin will drop into the printer. So you have to be careful.

[@LoyalMoses]

Nothing is floating, it is in full contact with the screen at all times.

[@buildersmark]

Very sleek, beautiful machine. Glad to see that camera and detection system. I've had a puncture and wish I had this to know about it. Great machine. Look forward to see more of this one. Can I send you the model of the Texas Longhorn to print?

[@LoyalMoses]

Heck yes!!! Send it! Would be cool!

[@vorneDabei]

Watching 1st time one of your vids. Thanks for sharing your fault as this isn usual. I'll have a look especially for not poking the Fep, but this never happened before. So I'll switch from elegoo S2 8k to this one, as I've been always waiting for a real auto leveling. Just a hint. There's also a heat USB plug available. In my man cave 2 degrees are missing. Significant for a great print or failure. I'll give it a try cause no additional heater plates would be necessary anymore. Greets from Germany. Keep on doing vids like that. 😂👍🏻👍🏻

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! And also, yes, that heater looks pretty awesome! I’ll have to get it and test it out. Congrats on your new printer!

[@Trevor3DrPrints]

The early bird price of this Printer is just insane. Elegoo resin printers are workhorses. I am so tempted to get it now but my Saturn 3 ultra is still going strong. So sad about the FEP mistake but so happy to hear the fail safe worked. Would have liked to hear and see more of this one via your experience. Meantime I must resist buying at this steal of a deal 😂 Edit: Well I went to order and in this day and age that ELEGOO STILL doesn’t ship to Hawaii really is unacceptable. As always I will wait until it’s on Amazon a year from now at this price. So disappointing

[@LoyalMoses]

The pricing I agree is absolutely insane! So much tech and hardware for so little money. And yes, I had plans for way more content! But, I’ll have that in a follow up video!

[@Trevor3DrPrints]

@@LoyalMoses can’t wait. You always knock it out of the park.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks Trevor!

[@matthewallison5219]

FEP replacement is my kryptonite - I have the worst luck/skill with tensioning and my 2nd FEP is dead before I know it. Any clue if replacing the FEP for the S4 doesn't require an obscure sized piece of foam or random bottle cap?

[@LoyalMoses]

Not sure, others have been easy to change - hoping this is the same!

[@Phynix056]

I like it and it look very Tron style.

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes!!!

[@Wweuniverse.mainevents]

And if you got a puncture and resin gose where the screen lift up and down and resing gose in to the hole is over ? 😮 for that im still dont know if get the 4 ultra or the 3 ultra since didnt got this problems resin goes in to the machine

[@LoyalMoses]

That would definitely be a mess!

[@AlterumVeniet]

I have had mixed results with mine. Several failures that I assumed were from my supports. After taking a break for a couple of weeks, I fired it up for a print again. Out of 30 identical models, only 4 successfully printed correctly. I go to clean the resin tank, find that there was resin underneath the vat. Not a catastrophic leak, i was able to clean up all of it in just a few seconds. I am *really* hoping the failures were the result of the puncture in the PFA. The AI camera hasn't detected any failures, and it's at maybe ablut a 25% success rate atm...

[@LoyalMoses]

Ah, just like mine! Sorry to hear this. Did you get a new PFA sheet?

[@AlterumVeniet]

@@LoyalMoses I did, but the problem persists. Elegoo believes it is the build plate, and are supposed to be sending me a new one (10-20 days), and I have since grown impatient, and ordered a new one off of Amazon. I'll get back to you after sunday when the new build plate arrives.

[@BrianGreenstone]

How did you get the old Chitubox 1.9.x to work with the Saturn 4? Mine only supports up to Saturn 3 and Mars 4.

[@LoyalMoses]

I am not sure, this just the one I downloaded.

[@PerryWheeler-x7i]

Sent mine back. Nothing but errors out of the box. Automatic bed leveling failed. Then a vat full of resin and an error telling me no resin detected..

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh no, sorry to hear that! Did you ever figure out what was wrong?

[@PerryWheeler-x7i]

@@LoyalMoses I sent it back and ordered the excellent Saturn 3 ultra :)

[@DaVinci1_0]

All this 3d printing stuff is just make-believe.. we just have to believe we can make things ;)

[@LoyalMoses]

Exactly!

[@WARPAINTandUnicorns]

Claps, user experince upgrades appricated.

[@LoyalMoses]

Agree!

[@grubbybear1742]

I'm so excited I have purchased one and received it yesterday. I'm brand new to resin printing so I've been studying up hard. But..............now I have an issue, and I cannot find a solution and the Elegoo support is on another planet or may as well be. I guess I'm spoilt and used to the Prusa support line. Anyways I'm sure this will improve in the future. Can you help me please? When I first set up my printer everything was fine. But later when I tried a print and the print plate rises to the top of the Z-axis and then makes the most horrible and loud whirring sound like a motor is stalling and does not complete the self check. I have turned the printer off many times as well as doing a factory reset and no joy. I also played around with the manual level up and down, which works, but when I run the check it stalls at the top again. I've sent 2 emails and still waiting. Help!!!!!!! I'm itching to print something. TIA

[@LoyalMoses]

I hope support gets everything resolved or you figure it out! It’s not fun having a down machine!

[@wolfie54321]

I worry that the flip up lid doesn't seal as well as the big lids that just rest on top. I've used other printers with doors or hatches and they never seal well, which means the room ends up stinking of resin far more than the ones where the lid just sits on top. How have you found it for fumes?

[@mikkelkirketerp4884]

Moot point as you need a full on venting setup for resin anyways.

[@wolfie54321]

@@mikkelkirketerp4884 What's your definition of "full on", I doubt more than 2% of resin printers are set up in a proper fume cupboard like they probably should. People have a range of setups, and how badly the printer lets off fumes affects how serious of a setup you need.

[@LoyalMoses]

While filming the lid was open a lot, and when I would close it the room would become almost void of resin smell, so although it is not a perfect seal, it’s very good.

[@mikkelkirketerp4884]

@wolfie54321 i mean you should have a setup that captures all the fumes, whether that be directly from the UV-hood or having the printer in a chamber.

[@wolfie54321]

@@mikkelkirketerp4884 I’d suggest 98% of people have to compromise and set it up with less than perfect ventilation, so stuff like how well the printer itself contains fumes becomes important. Chemical exposure is rarely an all or nothing proposition, it’s managing exposure levels rather than complete elimination.

[@skwidman0435]

Just received my order two days ago and I didn't run it until last night because my wash and cure station was delayed in transportation. once I got everything in and set up I ran the full chess set files on the provided flash drive, the first print went well had a slight deficit in one of the pieces but nothing catastrophic, I cleaned the build plate and vat and started a second print, running the same files and file settings and I let the printer run overnight woke up to just supports hanging off the build plate and the printer still running like it was printing I stopped it and after cleaning everything up I noticed there was a crack going from the left side of the LCD glass to the right not sure what happened or why the AI didn't stop the failed print and if there was something in the vat why did the object detection catch it before it broke the glass I just dropped $700+ on this printer waited over a week to receive it all for it to completely crapped the bed after two prints in which the files where provided by elegoo currently waiting for a response from their warranty office but this is bs

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh no! That’s terrible, I’ve never seen an LCD crack like that. I know it can be frustrating, but also, stuff happens, in the whole scope of things, it’s not that big of a deal, just a little delay. I custom ordered a $90k truck, waited 6 months and it had a part broke when it arrived. Life is too short to be upset over little things, so I try not to let that stuff get to me. I’m 1000% sure ELEGOO will make it right, keep me updated on it.

[@skwidman0435]

@@LoyalMoses most definitely 👍🏻

[@DronesEyeViewUK]

can the camera see any fails on the opposite side of the build plate when printing a large model ? #gimmick

[@LoyalMoses]

I know what you mean. Not always thought through.

[@geekgee]

sometimes, sh%^ just happens 😬 I'll stick with FDM, I'm thinkin'. Keep the great content comin', sir.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!

[@frankowens3373]

Fep ? Thought it was like pfa?

[@LoyalMoses]

It is PFA, FEP is stuck in my head like saying Kleenex. They are basically the same thing, but PFA is becoming more popular because it is a little tougher among other differences.

[@erichasz7068]

Never got to do that before!

[@LoyalMoses]

I’m glad you were first! 😁

[@erichasz7068]

🤣 great video as well. Really like your content.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!

[@Twini97]

is it possible that the resin goes into the machine when its tilting?

[@LoyalMoses]

If you overfill it, it could. But it will let you know.

[@Twini97]

@@LoyalMoses And if you damage the fep not?

[@IanEdwards-s6u]

so sad about the FEP sheet now you can print a high detail pac-man!

[@LoyalMoses]

I had so many cool Mario prints planned! 😞

[@DanielChaves1984]

I dont believe it was the AI camera that detected the previously fallen support. It was most likely the load sensor in the arm holding the plate that detected resistance coming down and thus stopped the print.

[@LoyalMoses]

Yeah, I don't remember - just rewatched it, it may have been a bad edit explaining what happened. We have another video coming after we upgraded the film.

[@technix_am]

Elegoo just broke my heart. btw, have anyone told you that you look exactly like Dean Winchester?

[@LoyalMoses]

Nobody has ever told me that before!

[@mrfrieze]

I think we are at the point with these printers that we know they will print all the detail you throw at it, printing a smooth model is was better as it can’t hide small artifacts and wobble lines in the details. - Inspyr3D

[@LoyalMoses]

That’s a great point!

[@badashphilosophy9533]

I think im getting into 3d printing at just the right time. Im leaning towards the elegoo brand but now i have to choose between resin and the other one, am i right in thinking the resin does prettier and more detailed prints? What are some other things worth taking into account if anyone has the time to help me out?

[@mko-ai]

Please dont start with resin. And definitely don't start with elegoo These are seeded reviews for a new release product. Most of their products have serious software issues and they make stupid mistakes. I purchased 3 elegoo machines. Please start with the Bambu A1 mini. It will work out of the box and save you the extreme headache buying elegoo products.

[@badashphilosophy9533]

@@mko-ai maybe il wait a tad longer till the bugs are worked out. im after a big printer. bambu seems like a great brand but pricey. $990AUD for 256x print size which is to small, i have little choice but to go for the cheaper options even if they have some flaws so elegoo seems the best bet for over 300x printsize and i think half the price of bambu, why buy one when u could have 2 printers halving the time of multiple prints? seen older versions on marketplace too going for uber cheap but i dont want an older version at the moment where 3d printers are at, maybe in a couple more years

[@mko-ai]

@@badashphilosophy9533 they are not. Please start with the A1 mini. I just bought two for friends, one was just $169 as I had a discount code. You will be so happy you did.

[@LoyalMoses]

You’ll have far more applications printing with FDM, but you just won’t have the detail, and it will be less messy than resin. I’d suggest FDM first, see if you like it.

[@Luptonium]

Happened to our Mars twice.

[@LoyalMoses]

Sad! I had so much I wanted to print with it!

[@mash3d67]

Did they include a screen protector with the printer?

[@dmhayes6]

Uncle Jesse said no on his stream this morn

[@LoyalMoses]

No screen protector was with mine.

[@mrbigpip]

it has a sheet on that jesse said he left on kinda like the usual packing sheets

[@jessicaalvis7063]

Great video :) but I can’t find the links to the wash and cure station :)

[@LoyalMoses]

Did I forget?!

[@jessicaalvis7063]

@@LoyalMoses yep ^^

[@-AHMADAL-TAIE]

Please ..please ..please someone make a review comparing / talking about printing speeds (layer/hour)of these new resin printers in different types of resins since they are heavily marketed as “fast” printers yet nobody is talking about that.

[@LoyalMoses]

Definitely! Things are simplifying in resin, and I like it!

[@mko-ai]

Happened to me with the saturn 3 ultra. Its insane

[@LoyalMoses]

It’s a consumable. I should have been more careful!

[@mko-ai]

@@LoyalMoses they could have designed the thing better. I was shocked it was even able to do that

[@CreativeVlogs03]

I had one for a week and had nothing but problems I contacted support, and they said due to China having a New Year they were not sure when they could get back to me So the printer went back to them

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh no! I’m sorry to hear that!

[@ZachC-130]

That’s funny, had the same issue getting a screen replacement from AnyCubic over their holiday.

[@Mrpancake72]

I also had nothing but problems. Mine won't print anything on the back. I'd rather level my own plate than deal with this.

[@DismemberTheAlamo]

It should be noted, you keep saying FEP when this printer uses PFA film.

[@LoyalMoses]

Old habit!

[@maestro-music]

Bro, how do I get that shirt lol it's dope.

[@LoyalMoses]

I love it! Found it online somewhere. Search Amazon!

[@user-Ben_S]

Friend, I need one too)

[@LoyalMoses]

They’re nice!

[@pimprowdy1]

ok so lets see u change the FEP sheet on the next video lol

[@LoyalMoses]

They replied and are amazing, sending some new FEP over right away. We could definitely show an FEP change, it’s a bit boring though, lots of screw turning.

[@pimprowdy1]

@@LoyalMoses is it the same as other Elegoo printers?

[@LoyalMoses]

It appeared so from the looks of it. Same as Prusa too, etc.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

What are the resins like nowadays? Still toxic and smell bad ?

[@LoyalMoses]

They are way better. Still have smell and have to be careful.

[@jeffb1838]

Photopolymer will always be toxic, until AI makes some miracle material. You want resin to smell bad, just as natural gas has an added odor. Odor allows you to know where the toxicity is, so that you don't have silent killer in your home. I know many people who don't mask up, myself in the past included. It's not going to kill you if you run periodically. But if you are around your printer often, over a long period of time, I have to imagine it's way more damaging to the lungs than cigarettes.

[@tomsmith5936]

Yes still toxic. VOC fumes need proper extraction and you should wear a suitable respirator when exposed to them.

[@Fleshpenance]

9:59 "Also having a good set of wash and cure machines is also essential. Now, it's not required, but..." Essential means required, so this is contradictory

[@LoyalMoses]

Nope, means necessary, which does not mean required.

[@Fleshpenance]

​@@LoyalMoses'necessary' is also another synonym for 'required'

[@Fleshpenance]

​@@LoyalMosesmaybe 'highly recommended' is closer to your intent

[@ZachC-130]

That lid is not my jam lol. Looks like a mid 2000’s PC

[@LoyalMoses]

Kinda true!

[@ashrafsheikh4367]

Print jwellery

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely!

[@JohnJones-oy3md]

8:11 - Kek!

[@LoyalMoses]

LOL

[@erichasz7068]

First😂

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes!!!

[@Conquerjt]

Didn't really go over the features of the printer. You talked more about your Mario models than the printer...

[@LoyalMoses]

Did you see the word “review” in the title or description, because I didn’t. The thumbnail literally explains that I broke it and I talked about it.