My First 13 x 19 Print on the CANON PRO 10 on CANON Pro Luster

[@Fundytidez]

Hi Jose, a Maritime welcome from here in Nova Scotia. Thank you for all the information you provide on printers and printing. I have a Canon pro-200 printer and have been using the 13x19 Pro Luster photo paper for some framing projects. I have started noticing on some of the landscape oriented pictures under constant lighting that they have started to wrinkle. I usually just hang the pictures with two pieces of linen tape across the top and let hang in the mat. I have corrected some of the wrinkles by redoing with one piece of linen tape across the top in the center. I'm wondering if you may have come across this problem, and may know what causes it? Thank you for any possible explanations in advance?

[@bethhayden7577]

New to Canon PIXMA Pro 10. I’m an artist and will be reproducing prints of my original artwork. Some of the artwork will need to be professionally photographed (I’m getting better at this, but not great yet) before it can be printed. Odd question, but can a professional shop reproduce my prints and it be more economical? (We had 2 of these in my area). Would the shop need a scanned copy, a digital file or a hard copy to produce the prints? I’m assuming there will be a variation in quality, just not sure how much. Does the issue of printing my own verses have a specialty shop print them for me a question of volume? I’m sure I’ll figure all this out over time. Your videos have helped me tremendously!!! Thanks for any words of wisdom or advice. You rock!

[@supercybercow5388]

Hello, there is no simple answer because there are so many parameters that could influence the decision of using a print shop or do everything by yourself at home. In general print shops tend to have higher grade professional printing equipment including printing on large formats eg. A2 and larger - that could be more cheaper for the final user to print on because they are printing large quantities and where economics and amortization of such print infrastructure is more favorable and forgiving for the customer, compared to home small to mid setup that should be maintained. It's true that the overall quality can vary from "oh splendid" to "this is a disaster", on a bad day, but a serious print shop will never allow such bad results to exit their doors, and it's up to you to reclaim and force them to redo bad prints. There is no special reason you must scan your work, unless you done analog photography, or you don't have the original digital sources. But even then you possibly want to scan your work with them having professional scanners. For others you send them or give them digital files in high resolution prepared for print media and you should be fine. Good luck with your work, Cheers.

[@bluedragoninc559]

Thanks for all the great videos Jose. I'm anxiously waiting for 2 Pro 10's to come in! I also saw your video on Precision inks and plan to go that route.

[@cheo1949]

I think you will find all you need here. I have a pretty extensive playlist dedicated to the PRO-10 you should find helpful as well!

[@bluedragoninc559]

Jose Rodriguez thank you. I've been recommending your channel to a few of my photography friends who may also get into printing. Keep the great videos coming!

[@cheo1949]

Thank for spreading the word! I really appreciate it.

[@cruikshank]

Thank you so much. That's an awesome image and print. Do you consider the prints from both the Pro-100 & Pro-10 safe to touch or move immediately after they emerge from the printer? I've notice prints from my Pro-100 change color to become closer to my calibrated screen color a few minutes after emerging from the printer. I let them sit and move them very carefully for the first 10 minutes. Am I wrong to do that? Thank you, Dave

[@cheo1949]

Yes they emerge dry to the touch. You need to allow dye prints to degas for about one day. They will then be ready to work with or frame. Not so much with the PRO-10 and it is pigment based.

[@lennykibbs260]

Glad I ran into your channel- I'm psyched, my pro-10 will be here tomorrow

[@cheo1949]

Way to go!!!

[@johnmcgeechan9393]

Hi again Jose and thank you for your very prompt reply. The reason I asked is I have been using the spyder for about a year now and not quite happy with the results. After watching your amazing site I was contemplating purchasing the i1 Studio but just wondered why you preferred the xrite. Mind made up now thank you

[@cheo1949]

Well first of all they are the industry standard and produce very consistent results day in and day out!

[@mopsexx]

Hi, at 2:22 you mentions auto setting for croma optimiser. Where the heck do you find that setting. BTW im on a mac if it matters. Thanks

[@cheo1949]

In Windows driver it is located in the page setup tab I have no idea where you would find it on the Mac driver.

[@njrtech]

Joe is it worth buying the Canon pro 10 today over the Epson p600? Thank you

[@cheo1949]

If you were to say right NOW? I would say yes because you can get it from Murphy's Camera for a net price after rebate of $99.99 plus shipping. Not so with the P600. P600 still uses the Black ink switch valve to switch from PK to MK and back. It will fail in about 2-3 years depending on how often you perform the switch. The CANON's do not share black channels. Print wise they both produce top quality prints color or monochrome.

[@njrtech]

Jose Rodriguez joe a local has a new unit in box unopened for $325. ( canon pro-10 ). Worth it? Thanks

[@cheo1949]

Don't you think the deal I just mentioned is better? $300 plus locally is about right if you are willing to pay that. Retail is was $699.

[@njrtech]

@@cheo1949 yes, but when I looked up the pro 10 at Murphy's cameras, I see it at 699 minus 200 rebate? Is that what you see? Thanks again

[@cheo1949]

You have to call and ask for Don that's the only way to get that deal not from the website.

[@johnmcgeechan9393]

Hi Jose, can you tell me why you don't like the Spyder from datacolor

[@cheo1949]

Known inconsistencies in results during use. You can calibrate the display five times and get five different results. Not so with x-rite. I don't care about brands. Only about their performance which is why x-rite happens to be the industry standard. Just about all profiles you can obtain from paper manufacturers are created with x-rite spectros.

[@steverix8181]

What took so long! I was beginning to think that you weren't all that impressed by the Pro 10. ;) We really need a video showing a direct comparison between a Pro 100 print and a Pro 10 print. I do believe it would be the first of its kind.

[@cheo1949]

+Steve Rix I will do that. Problem is my pro100 is using precision colors inks and the pro-10 is on OEM inks. Not entirely fair comparison but my prediction is the pro-100 will win hands down on glossy paper! Maybe I'll level the field a bit and print to Canon Pro Luster on to printers!

[@njrtech]

If I already own a pro 100... Should I consider a pro 10 at all?

[@Rivij]

From what I can on my screen this is a beuatilful print with great colors, thanks for sharing. Jose, have you tried, or do you currently have any Moab Lasal Exhibition Luster 300? If so could you do a print video using this paper, or a luster paper comparrision using the Pro-10 and give your thoughts as to the quality of the paper and color reproduction? I am thinking of ordering Moab Lasal Exhibition Luster 300 paper. I recently bought a paper swatch book from Bay Photo which included a small sample of the Moab Lasal and it appeared to be of top quality. I was also impressed with the Moab Slick Rock Pearl, but I just don't think I would use metallic paper as much.

[@cheo1949]

The fanciest I ever get is Red River. I normally stick with Canon Pro Luster. If results with luster is what you are interested in, I can tell you that the pro-10 will OEM inks will produce amazing results on Canon Pro Luster. If you still need to see it on video i can do a short one.

[@Rivij]

Jose, Thanks for getting back to me. No sir, don't bother wasting money (ink and paper) on me. I actually bought some of the Canon Pro Luster and I have to say that it is probably one of the best papers that I have used so far, and I am going to stick with it. I was using the Canon semi gloss and I didn't like it very much. In my opinion the semi gloss has a cheaper consumer look to it. I waited to go with the Pro Luster because I heard from someone that the Pro Luster and Semi Gloss papers were indistinguishable from one another, and now after using the pro luster I know that isn't true, there is definitely a difference and I much prefer the look and feel to the Pro Luster. I bought some Precision Colors inks and I am going to fill my Pro 10 carts with the inks once the carts I currently have in my Pro 10 are done. I sure hope I get just as good results with the precision colors inks in my Pro 10 as I did the with oem inks, with the Canon Pro Luster.

[@sixshooter4570]

@@Rivij How did you like Precision Colors inks, good, great results?

[@willf.5403]

So happy I found your channel! SO helpful. Is the paper 13x19 or is the image 13x19?

[@cheo1949]

The paper is.

[@gabe4381]

Que chilero salen esas impresiones mister JR

[@holdercomm]

how about a video on setting this monster up? i cannot get a test print; the wi-fi and drivers are setup and working however

[@cheo1949]

But I do.have a FULL set up video for the pro10. Try usb connection. If it is in a MAC I am not sure but you should be able to print the nozzle check directly from the driver.

[@nadstar]

Hi Jose, hope you receive this message in time. I am tossing between Pro-100S and Pro-10S it's working out to be $155AUD difference between the two. question is should I fork out the extra and get the Pro-10S or save and spend on the inks? I am a serious photographer and have lots of photos to print and am thinking LONG TERM with cart refills etc. How are the CLI42 vs CLI72? which of the two are easier to refill etc. Also do you have any info on any suppliers in Australia on Inks, if not I would have to order from PCinks. I have been watching all your videos and just wanted to say Thank you for all your help so far!!

[@cheo1949]

The PGI-72 are extremely easy to refill. No modifications required. Just a resetter and proven inks which I do not know of a source in Australia. The CLI-42s require a modification to enable them to be refilled. PC is no longer shipping outside of CANADA the USA and UK. I hope he reinstates shipping to AU soon.

[@dadsnotfunny]

Jose Rodriguez so in terms of 100S vs 10S which one would u prefer

[@cheo1949]

Longevity wise whether using OEM or 3rd party inks? The PRO-10!

[@CoCoRoAcH2]

Hello Jose, I'm wondering if you can help me or have done a video on this. I just bought a canon pixma pro 10s printer, I connected and everything and it was all fine. The next day I tried printing my art drawings as borderless prints. I used photo paper and normal standard paper. However, when I print, the print out is terrible!! The ink is smudged and patchy (if that's the way to describe it) and still wet!! The print out also contains random lines at the beginning and sometimes at the end. It is not even printing normal on standard paper. What do I do? What am in doing wrong?

[@cheo1949]

Who knows what has happened. Did you do the nozzle check, the head alignment and then printed an Evaluation Image on Pro luster which they gave you in the box?

[@Maloy7800]

In another video I saw that you were very impressed by the Pro-1. This is Pro-10 and the results are very good. So if the results are similar, why buy a much more expensive Pro-1? Or maybe even why buy Pro-10 if Pro-100 does the same job?

[@cheo1949]

I bought it because I buy printers for testing purposes. It is not so I can just have them. That is the reason for this video channel. So in that thought I will likely buy a pro1000 next. If I was just a normal home user without this video channel, I would just one or maybe two printers.

[@Maloy7800]

Jose Rodriguez No, no, no, I meant something different, sorry. I mean not YOU in particular. I'm asking in general. There are three printers in the Pro line - 1, 10 and 100. From your videos I understand that there is no difference in quality. So what's the difference between them then? Speed? Productivity? What is the purpose for Pro-1 if Pro-100 does the job?

[@cheo1949]

The Pro1 with its 12 pigment carts produces incredible smooth tonalities and it's B&W results is are amazing. Now visually when compared to the Pro10 and Pro100 there are no world shaking differences. I will go out on a limb and just say that for the 95% of home printing folks, the P100 is plenty enough. If you want longevity and better results on matte media then the 10 and 1 would be my choice.

[@Maloy7800]

Jose Rodriguez Thank you for that reply. It's been my opinion for quite a while that modern technology exceeds what a human eye can (or want to!) actually see. I'm sure the 12-color Pro-1 will deliver better results IF (!!!) you look very closely at short distance. But those printers produce large prints that people don't usually look at with a microscope. So, hand on heart, would you be able to tell the difference between Pro-1 and Pro-100 prints 10 feet away? Longevity, though, is something I never even thought about. Are you talking about the print's life? Prints made on Pro-1 will live longer than those produced on less expensive models?

[@cheo1949]

You will see differences in rendition. As each pro printer uses a different so called print engine. With well tuned ICC profiles the differences will be minimal and you will choose any one of them over the others and i would probably chose a different print. Longevity between dye and pigment is around 20x for pigment. So if that is important then pigment if the way to go. Remebere 100 and 10 have small carts 13-15 ml and the pro1 has 40 ml carts x 12

[@wendelenetheresetejada7408]

Can u help me bec my boarderline is not even i dont know what to do

[@cheo1949]

Your layout settings are not correct. Besides how could I help if you have not even told what you are printing on.

[@hchavez]

Help! I have printed a 13" BY 19" once before with no problems. Now when I go to print it just feeds the paper and does not print anything. Any ideas?

[@cheo1949]

Yikes!!! I have no clue. Did this occur right after the good one?

[@hchavez]

Seems to be an issue with the PDF file.

[@hchavez]

Used a different pdf viewer that let me fit to page. Maybe the dimensions where a little off.

[@cheo1949]

OH OK So you are Ok now?

[@hchavez]

Jose Rodriguez yes, thank you

[@leepotter74]

Hi Jose, we've recently purchased the Canon Pixma Pro 10s and have been having soooo many issues just trying to figure out how to best get colours to match what we see on screen? I'm not expert on ICC profiles and am unsure how to obtain one for this printer or if you need specific ones for different paper types. Do you have any advice on how I can find the best way to calibrate the MacBook pro monitor (or any monitor) so when I print on Matt or gloss paper it matches the colours i see on screen? Hope you have any advice for me as i've spent hours and hours getting nowhere really.

[@cheo1949]

It's not the printer. It is the MAC OS and your monitor not being at all calibrated for editing images for printing. LapTop Type computers are even worse and much more difficult to calibrate accurately as the "LOOK" changes with the screen angle of view. Serious editing can only be realistically done on a stand alone display. Calibration of such can only be done with a hardware calibrator and the best and most reliable ones are from X-Rite. You monitor is off!. You then edit using that OFF display so now your images are also OFF! You need to do this one thing first. Load a reference standard image and pint it without any editing. Using your PRO-10's default settings. Photo printing then Canon Paper Type. Only print this on real Canon Paper. Choose size and high quality. In the editing app tell IT to let the Pinter control color. MAC color management is totally different than on windows driver. It tries to automate everything and removes the user from the equation. Often resulting in the user wondering what the hell might be going on with color rendition. After printing the reference image you then carefully examine it for accuracy and neutrality. I have lots of color management videos covering all this. The biggest error people commit is getting a printer and immediately printing they skewed images instead of a standard reference one that it not skewed by editing on an uncalibrated display. Send me your email to [e-mail] and I will email you one. Show less

[@leepotter74]

Thanks for your reply Jose. i'll ping over my email to you and start looking into X-Rite :)

[@cheo1949]

Editing on a non calibrated display is like taking your temperature with fever thermometer that is OFF by a few degrees. It needs to be calibrated at the factory but it is not calibrated for image editing. By being way too bright, co treaty, saturated and non linearly neutral. Editing Results? Pretty horrible.

[@donltoys]

Jose Rodriguez .. so is there a way to get your computer calibrated for image editing?

[@josecolon8143]

Stunning

[@cheo1949]

Thank you!

[@MarcelChassePeche]

I just receive this printer but for any reasons I'm not able to chose 13X16 paper type and 4X6 paper type in the printer setting! I'm using a Mac with Lightroom. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance

[@cheo1949]

13x16 is not going to ever be included. I am sure that you mean 13x19. Did you install the driver from Canon? Or did you let the MAC OS install it? 13x19 is often shown as A3 plus but you should be able to see 4x6. Check that you did not install the "Air Print" driver.

[@MarcelChassePeche]

I will chk that in a few hours and I let you know. I think I install it by juste pluggin the usb cable and father that put it in wireless. I 'll uninstall it and redo it from scratch and if I mean 13X19 lol. I keep you in touch

[@cheo1949]

Don't let the OS auto install it!!!! Download the correct driver fro. Canon. I assume you are talking about a Canon Pro-10 since that was the printer I used in the video.

[@MrMilanina]

So I'd like to print 13x19 borderless and hang it in my family room. So far those acrylic frames seem rather nice to fit the rest of the room, but I am afraid that printing on Luster paper and then setting the acrylic on top would result in too much glare. From your experience would you recommend to go with Semi Matte or Matter paper, or with some other paper and try find another type of the frame? Thanks and cheers!!!

[@cheo1949]

MATTE only if you are printing with pigment using matte black ink. Found It not state the printer.

[@MrMilanina]

Jose Canon Pro 100

[@cheo1949]

Then only papers with sheen. PRO100 dye inks do not produce deep blacks on matte. Only On glossy luster satin semi gloss.

[@williamstatt8651]

How does this compare with the Epson 3880 on the same print?

[@JTOOLMAN]

+William Statt I do not have PRO 3880 but I do have R2880 and R3000 except the R3000 can not switch to PK so it can only print with Matte black inks. The PRO-10 with chroma optimizer runs circles around the Epson K3 printers. It does a great job on matte media as well.

[@philindeblanc]

Is there a way t turn Chroma Optimizer OFF? Maybe I need to select a specific paper and make a profile for it and save that, But I wish there was a way to turn it off. Perhaps you have a contact with Canon that may have info for updates that allow this? Thanks for the great videos you make. I am still on the OEm inks, and a few of them I replaced with the second OEM. Waiting for the full set to switch to aftermarket inks. Looks like I will try PCi...or equal.

[@TheJeremydinazareth]

how many print you can make with one full charge ?

[@cheo1949]

No idea. You do not use ink colors at the same rate. But it takes about 1-2 total ml for a Letter size print with full tonality and edge to edge.

[@mopsexx]

I just found it myself. Happy new year

[@cheo1949]

Great!

[@swansong007]

Hi Jan can you tell me how and where you found the CO on pro 10s please. I'm on MAC too

[@cheo1949]

I don't know what you're asking. You buy it. Chroma Optimizer.

[@swansong007]

@@cheo1949 hi Jose. I was asking how to set up for auto or full coverage of the CO . Thanks

[@cheo1949]

Full.

[@RichardAxelson]

How do I get this from Murphy’s for $99??

[@cheo1949]

How? You wait till next Christmas and then contact them and ask for Don. The sale is over now

[@RichardAxelson]

Thanks for the response. Does this printer use a lot of ink?

[@cheo1949]

It all depends on what you call a lot or normal amount of ink. A letter size edge to edge print of normal density will use 1-2 ml of total ink. Ink colors are used at varying rates and not at all equally. There are also timed cleaning cycles that these canon printer need to run. I've covered that to the point where it is like beating a dead horse. I have recent video where I discuss that so you have to take that into account when you choose a canon printer.

[@RichardAxelson]

Thank you for the information.

[@framfull]

How o you make the print on the whole paper? (meaning no White edges)

[@cheo1949]

??? You chose borderless in the printer driver.

[@framfull]

Thanks!

[@markstemmett5296]

Hi Jose, great videos. Was wondering if you know of an app that can automatically print a sample every 39 hours to “save” ink ?

[@cheo1949]

Qimage Ultimate or Qimage One. Is what I use for all my printing and one of its features is being able to print scheduled custom purge prints.

[@markstemmett5296]

Jose Rodriguez Thanks for your reply I will check it out. I used Automator on my Mac with a one liner written on terminal and it now prints a page every night at 3. I have tried,but can not find your Facebook page. Could you point me in the correct direction

[@hienvu9679]

Hi Mr Jose. May you tell me the max print size of Canon Pro 10 (Panorama). Thanks

[@cheo1949]

13x25

[@raulmartinez3572]

Por favor señor Rodriguez , no puedo conectar mi printer canon pro 100 , para mi es muy complicado , pues todas las intrusiones estan en ingles , y no entiendo mucho el idioma😪 si pudiera por favor ayudarme , soy un fiel seguidor de su canal, y tambien un principiante en la fotografía, es mi unica entretención, estaria muy agradecido por su ayuda , un fuerte abrazo , y muchas gracias 👍

[@cheo1949]

Se instala el DRIVER Le pide si quiere conectar con US o WIFI o Network. Escoja USB Connecte el USB cable a la impresome and prendela Su Computadora va entonces a reconocer la impresora i continua a installarla Prodra encontrar la impresora si va a " DEVICES and PRINTER" Espero que este usando WINDOWS porquue no se nada the MAC o APPLE

[@305miyayo786]

How much could a picture like that sell for?

[@cheo1949]

$40-50

[@305miyayo786]

+Jose Rodriguez And what range would the 8.5x11 price range around? Thankz

[@joelenethompson5594]

I am ready to purchase my first professional photo printer I have been looking at Epson but I think with this info Canon beats them out.

[@cheo1949]

They are very good printers producing great result!